1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Get in test with technology with text Stuff from how 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: stuff dot com. We're there, we won and welcome to 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: text Stuff. I'm Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren foc Obama, 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: and we are going to continue our discussion about Tesla Motors, 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: the company that strives to bring electric vehicles to everyone 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: as long as you have lots of money, lots of 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: money right now. They have they had solid plans for 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: the future, and it's really impressive for a company that's 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: only been around since two thousand three, right, especially for 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: a company that went through so much public turmoil. I mean, 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: there were a lot of moments that we talked about 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: in our last episode where you could have looked at 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: that at the time and thought, Okay, the writings on 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: the wall, this company is not going to last. But 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: it lasts. It's still around. I mean, you can you 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: can buy Tesla's now, so yeah. Yeah. At the end 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: of our previous episode, we were talking specifically about some 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: of the financial problems that were happening um and during 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: which Elon Musk talked to his brother Kimball and went like, 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: I really just need just a little bit more private funding. 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: And one of the things that Kimball said to him, 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: was like, are you sure, Are you sure that's what 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: you need right now? Like, are you sure it's going 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: to be worth it? Right? And? Uh, you know, Musk 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: is a determined individual. I think you would say, especially 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: if you'd listen to our episode that we recorded about 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Elon Musk last year. Uh, he's he's certainly, he's got 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: He's got that vision and the determination to follow through 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: to achieve that vision. That is pretty important in this 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: kind of industry. So August two thousand nines where we're 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: picking up, and that is when Tesla Motors relocates its 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: headquarters from San Carlos to Palo Alto. Over the course 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: of two thousand nine, they would produce about eight hundred 34 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: roadsters um and managed to get the production cost down 35 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: to some thousand dollars a piece, which is a lot 36 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: better than the hundred and forty thousand dollars a piece 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: that they were operating at a couple of years previous, 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: especially since they were selling them at a hundred nine 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a piece. So now they're selling them at 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: a profit profit as opposed to add a loss. Yeah, 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: it's a in general, I mean, I don't know a 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: lot about business, but I do know that you generally 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: want to sell something for more money than it costs 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: you to make it. Uh at least that's I mean, 45 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: I probably a missing something here. But in January, Tesla 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: registered for an initial public offering, which is kind of 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: interesting because, like we said, they had just you know, 48 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: asked the government for four hundred and sixty plus million 49 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: dollar a loan, but they were getting ready for it, 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: so they were registering it. And that's not exactly when 51 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: they held it, but that's when they registered. UM. The 52 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: key to that loan, if you remember from our previous episode, 53 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: was that Tesla had to have a mass production facility 54 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: UM and they did not have that yet. But in 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: March of Musk secretly toward Knew Me, which was a 56 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: or is a two acre vehicle production plant in Freeman, 57 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: California that's valued some like one billion dollars UM. It 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: belonged at the time to Toyota and General Motors. Well. 59 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: GM had backed out of the plant UM in two 60 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: thousand nine after declaring bankruptcy, and Toyota was planning on 61 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: stopping production the following month and in April, so this 62 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: plant was basically up for grabs, and no one else 63 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: in the auto industry was doing well enough to really 64 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: want to take it over. Yeah, that global financial crisis 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: had really hit the auto industry, particularly in the United States, 66 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: really really hard. Akio Toyota, that the president of Toyota 67 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: himself had actually arranged this tour for Elon Musk and 68 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: would develop a friendship with Musk over the next couple 69 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: of months. Uh, they like test drove the roadster together 70 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: and like towards SpaceX and bonded over through you what. Yeah, 71 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 1: I know that happened. There, there's journalistic evidence of this thing. 72 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: You mean that maybe one day I too might be 73 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: able to sit across the table from Elon Musket and 74 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: Joyce fro you. I think I think it's possible, especially 75 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: if you become the president of a multinational corporation that 76 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: ask can greatly profit from. Oh it's nothing but a 77 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: gravy train from myro on outfolks. All right, So May 78 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: two thousand ten, Tesla ends up buying that plant. Yeah, 79 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: for just forty two million dollars. You just told me 80 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: it was worth a billion. That is exactly what I said. 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's that thing where really no 82 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: one else was in a position to buy it, and 83 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: they were fro Yo buddies at this point. So so yeah, 84 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, nothing, nothing really greases the wheels, like like Oreo, 85 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: Like an Oreo crumbled Froyo. But yeah, sotwo million dollars. 86 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: This incredible, right, Yeah, Meska had budgeted that amount for 87 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: a much more modest factory and and ended up with 88 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: this massive place, this massive place. Yeah. And and Tesla 89 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: and Toyota also announced an agreement. Oh yeah, they said 90 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: they were going to start developing electric vehicles together at 91 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: Toyota agreed to purchase shares in Teslas. So in June, 92 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: Tesla has its initial public offering and joins the NASDAK 93 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: Stock Exchange. Now, that public offering was very successful, at 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: ray more than two twenty six million dollars, and it 95 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: was the first American car company to complete an I 96 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: p O since Ford's way back in Yeah. So at 97 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: that point, right, this is the same wired piece that 98 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: a quote from our previous episode had had been in. Right, 99 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: that's when Elon Musk said, at that point, every day 100 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: was like eating glass and staring into the abyss of death. 101 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: I'm not positive that was a dramatic reinterpretation, you guys, um, 102 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: but uh, yeah, that's that. That was a quote from 103 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: two eight or so when things were really not looking 104 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: very good for for for Musk and for Tesla, and 105 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: so things had turned around at this point a whole lot. 106 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: Musk at this point said, I'm not staring into the 107 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: abyss of death anymore. I'm just eating glass now. It's 108 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: like sunshine and puppy dogs. Uh. And And that that 109 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: wired piece, by the way, is how Elon Musk turned 110 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: Tesla into the car company of the future, by one 111 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: Joshua Davis. And it's a really triffic piece. I'll try 112 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: to remember to link it on social so that you 113 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: guys can enjoy it as well. Yeah, it's great. It's 114 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: a great resource for this this whole podcast. In January 115 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, Tesla reports its financial results and they 116 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: have to do this so publicly traded company has to 117 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: report part of the because you have the responsibility to 118 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: your shareholders as well as the government, and revealed that 119 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: it lost a hundred fifty four point three million dollars 120 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: in twenty ten, not a big not a big surprise. 121 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: I mean again, because the roadster was really the only 122 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: thing they had, uh as to sell. They had received 123 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: some investment money and alone, but they hadn't They didn't 124 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: have any more product to move yet, right, and they 125 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: still weren't producing a whole whole lot of them. Yeah. 126 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: In fact, roadster eventually, I mean spoiler alert, eventually the 127 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: the full number of roadsters that they produced was somewhere 128 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: just south of two thousand, five hundred, so not that many. 129 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: Now we skip ahead a whole year, so let's all 130 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: go dolululu little in January two twelve now, and Peter Rawlinson, 131 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: who was vice president and chief engineer, and Nick Sampson, 132 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: who was a vehicle and chassis engineering supervisor, both resign 133 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: on the same day. At the as soon as the 134 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: news breaks, shares drop nineteen per cent. So it's part 135 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: of the problem here is that, uh, both of these 136 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 1: guys were very heavily involved in developing the models, and 137 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: the fear was that this was going to lead to 138 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: some sort of problem with the model lesque production and 139 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: that people lost confidence in tesla Um. And also they 140 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: decided to do something else that was a little radical. 141 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that that is when they in fact ended 142 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: production on the roadster before I could get one. Were 143 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: you planning on getting a roadster? Plan is a strong word, 144 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: dream or hope? Are you planning on getting a driver's license? 145 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: I know I was playing on getting a driver and 146 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: a roadster. The hard part is sitting in the back 147 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: of a car that only has two seats. That that 148 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: part I hadn't figured out yet. But anyway, February two 149 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve, that's when Tesla unveils a new vehicle. Yeah, 150 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: the Model X, which is an Suv yep, to go 151 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: on sale in early it's not it's they're they're supposed 152 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: to be delivered sometime this year. But although in another 153 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: spoiler alert here, if you were to put in an 154 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: order right now, it would essentially be a pre order. 155 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: They can't guarantee delivery till two thousand fifteen, so I'm 156 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: telling you guys know. But but they were. They were 157 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: taking five thousand dollar deposits for the vehicle, and it 158 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: has my favorite feature of a vehicle ever. So now, okay, 159 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: if the roadster can't be mine, I'm not a big 160 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: suv guy in general, but this one I would get 161 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: for this one feature. It has freaking goal wing doors, 162 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, like the yea yeah, and hey, hey that 163 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: would have a back seat, so you could have a driver. 164 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: That's right, that's all right. I can have my driver 165 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: driving around in the electric STV. Okay, got a new goal. 166 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm all right, I've recentered myself. So May two thousand twelve, 167 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Tesla announces it will begin delivering Model S cars to 168 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: customers starting on June twelve. And then on June twelve, 169 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: they had an Apple like launch event where they started 170 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: to deliver the first Model S vehicles in person and 171 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: for the first three anyway. Uh I watched the video 172 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: on this and it was definitely very much like an 173 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: Apple event, although I guess it was more of an 174 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: internal company event that press were invited to. I think 175 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: it was mostly Tesla employees and it was more of 176 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: a you guys, we did it. This was something that 177 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: people said was impossible. Everyone kept saying that, uh, it 178 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: was the company was not in good shape, that the 179 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: global crisis had caused us to lose sight of everything. 180 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: That never happened. It out here it is. And at 181 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: that time there were ten owls and reservations for the models, 182 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: and most of those people had never seen one, let 183 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: alone Saturn one let alone driven in one. So that's 184 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: that's a lot of promise. Yeah, and you've got, Yeah, 185 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: you've got. Some might say it's a little cultish. It 186 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: reminds me of another car company, the Saturn Car Company, 187 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: where people who got Saturn's early on. Did you ever 188 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: meet anyone remember some of the hype surrounding it, But 189 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know anyone at the time. Now, yeah, well, 190 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: Tesla they talked about being a community, especially the roadster 191 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: community early on because those very few people, very exclusive, right, 192 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: But same sort of thing, Like it was this idea 193 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: that you're being inducted into this sort of exclusive club. 194 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: But also because you shared this vision of an electric 195 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: car future with zero G emissions. I mean this was 196 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: a big deal for a lot of people. Sure. Speaking 197 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: of cults, has that cult going? The cult of Matt? Oh, 198 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: the Matt one. Yeah. See, I'm not allowed to talk 199 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: about that. I also can't talk to my family anymore. 200 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: But other than that, it's great. This is all Ben, 201 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: Ben and Matt of stuff. They don't want you to 202 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: inducted Jonathan into a call they did. I'm not sure 203 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: if Scott bought in. Its kind of a holdout. Yeah, 204 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: it's Okay, we have people watching his house all the time. 205 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: But if you go to their YouTube channel you can 206 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: check out Jonathan on that. Yeah, it's fantastic. So getting 207 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: back to the model s, it's a four door sedan. 208 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: This is that that luxury sedan that they had been 209 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: talking about years before, right and they here it is 210 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: finally coming out. It has an optional seating for seven. 211 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: As it turns out, there's a lot of extra cargo 212 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: capacity when you remove the need for exhaust systems and 213 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: thermal shieldings so that you don't cook your passengers like 214 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: eggs on an engine block, the catalytic converters and etcetera, etcetera. 215 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: It's also the body is made mostly of aluminum instead 216 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: of steel to cut down on weight, obviously very important 217 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: so that you can not have to use as much 218 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: power to move the vehicle. Uh And unlike the Roadster, 219 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: it actually had two battery options, so you had one 220 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: that would give you the bigger battery package option would 221 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: give you three hundred six miles of range or about 222 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: four kilometers on a single charge, and the smaller had 223 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: more arrange that was closer to the Roadster, which was 224 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: about two hundred forty four miles or around three kilometers. Now, 225 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: it was also designed to be very aerodynamic to cut 226 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: down on drags, so again to try further reduce the 227 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: load on that battery exactly, and it had regenerative breaking 228 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: to again reduce the load on the battery some more. 229 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, the recharging thing still kind of 230 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: an issue, especially since some people just can't get over 231 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: that idea that oh, I want to be able to 232 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: drive as far as I want, whenever I want, and 233 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: not worry about running out of juice. Well, it has 234 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: a mobile connector that can plug into a hundred ten 235 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: vault or two hundred forty volt outlets. Uh. But you know, 236 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: usually you would just plug it in at night. If 237 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: you were to plug it into one of these outlets, 238 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: you would get only a fract faction of your full range. 239 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: So yeah, if you were on the road and you 240 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: wanted to charge your car, Uh, let's say you go 241 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: to a public charging station and you recharge the battery 242 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: at a rate where you get about twenty two miles 243 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: or kilometers for every hour of charge. Some can charge 244 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: a little faster than that. A two forty volt outlet 245 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: will provide thirty one miles or fifty kilometers of range 246 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: per hour of charge. But they're super charger stations, and 247 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: I'll talk more about them in a little bit, but 248 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: they can provide one seventy miles or two hundred seventy 249 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: four kilometers of range for just thirty minutes of charge, 250 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: and that's pretty incredible. Still, it's a half hour, right, 251 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: It's a lot different than it's much more cumbersome than 252 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: pulling up to a gas station and being out in 253 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: under ten minutes. Yeah, So that that's something that some 254 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: people still ball cat, even though I think most of 255 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: us if we were to actually right down how many 256 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: miles we traveled in a typical day, I think for 257 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: most of us it would be significantly below the range 258 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: of the Tesla. Again, some people, obviously are are exceptions, 259 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: but I think the majority of us would be able 260 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: to uh comfortably drive that range and then plug in 261 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: at night and be fine the next day. Of course, 262 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: if you forget to plug in your car, then you're 263 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: you know, up the creek. So the car has a frunk, 264 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: which is a front trunk of that work. I don't 265 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: approve of it, it does. It just sounds dirty, but 266 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: that it's got it's got a frank. But yeah, I 267 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: don't I don't like the that that version of front 268 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: trunk either. I mean having a front trunk awesome. That's fine. 269 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: By calling calling it a fronk not good. But yes, 270 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: you can store stuff there excellent. Well. And the Roadster 271 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: just like the Roadster, it has an electric motor and 272 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: fixed gear drive, but it has a liquid cool power train. 273 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: Unlike the Roadsters, which, as you recall from the last episode, 274 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: exactly it just brought in air from the vents, this 275 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: one had a liquid cooling system and again it uses 276 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: lithium ion batteries just like the Roadster did. One of 277 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: the big shiny elements of this car was it's or 278 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: is it's seen UM touch screen for all of the 279 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: controls and UM media communication. You can you can do 280 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: everything from controlling the temperature in the cabin or know 281 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. There's some people who I 282 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: know have said that that was a little scary to 283 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: have a big panel that could be distracting to the 284 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: driver but sor that could electrically short out and stop 285 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: stop giving you, you know, importantality and information UM. But 286 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: chief designer friends von holtz Heusen said, uh, it's like 287 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: the leap of faith Apple took with the iPhone. There's 288 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: a cleanliness to the interior and the screen is the hero. 289 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: We're in the midst of a transition toward a new 290 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: way of thinking. For me, that's an iPhone moment, and 291 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: it is an impressive display. I mean, i've I've I've 292 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: only seen pictures of them, because George is not one 293 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: of those places. We we live in Georgia, and George 294 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: is not one of those places that has a lot 295 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: of the supercharger stations. In fact, we have one, and 296 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: it's in Savannah, which, for those who are not familiar 297 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: with Georgia geography, is way the heck away from Atlanta, 298 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: about five hours travel time by car. Yeah, so you're 299 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: not gonna see a lot of these. Not saying that 300 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: no one has them in Atlanta. I'm sure there are 301 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: a few, but I haven't had a chance to see 302 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: one in person, but I've seen the pictures and they 303 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: are pretty so. When it launched, they had talked about 304 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: the base price of the lower end models without any 305 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: options on it or anything, was around sixty thousand dollars, 306 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: and the one with the larger battery pack was around 307 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: eighty thousand. Um, those numbers are different from today's numbers. 308 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: And also they changed year to year and based upon 309 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: all the different options. So that was the idea of 310 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: when it first launched. Um. And also there was this 311 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: optional third row seat that that idea that seventh, it 312 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: wasn't that you would set three people in the front 313 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: and four people in the back or something. You know, 314 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: it's meant just for children. And it meant that they 315 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: also had to put in extra safety features. Sure. Well, 316 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: the this this third row was facing backwards, and uh, 317 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: if customers order the car in this layout, it includes 318 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: a special rear bumper like like double bumper in the back. Yeah, 319 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,239 Speaker 1: it meant more there was more crumpled space there in 320 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: case of a rear collision. So if if a collision 321 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: happened at highway speeds, then uh, it would be just 322 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: as safe from the rear as it would be from 323 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: the front. So uh, and we'll talk more about its 324 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: safety record when we get into the second half. In fact, 325 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: this is a good place to take a quick break 326 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: to thank our sponsor. All Right, we've worked our way 327 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: up to September two thousand and twelve, the models has 328 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: come out and at this point, Tesla announces that will 329 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: build out that supercharging network that I had talked about. 330 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: So the super charging stations were places that are our 331 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: places rather where people can quickly recharge their Tesla vehicles. 332 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: They use this proprietor arry kind of of connection between 333 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: the supercharger and their vehicle, and for absolutely free of 334 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: charge for any Tesla user, they can start to recharge 335 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: their car and after about half an hour they've got 336 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, a hundred seventy mile range. Like we said 337 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: in the earlier part of this podcast, they would announce 338 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: a year later the the option to have um in 339 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: instead of sitting there for half an hour and charging 340 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: your car, just swapping out the battery pack, which can 341 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: take as little as nine seconds. Yeah, yeah, there was. 342 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: There was one demo where they showed it being done 343 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: in something like thirty seconds. But this was you know, 344 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: in a in a scenario that was specifically engineered to 345 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: be as fast as it possibly could be, all right, 346 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: and that is for a service fee. And I think 347 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: that the formula that they use is is the market 348 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: price of fifteen gallons of gas, which they estimate to 349 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: be somewhere between sixty and eighty dollars. Yeah, that's exactly 350 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: what I've heard as well. So in other words, you 351 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: can if you if you have the time, you can 352 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: sit around for half an hour and let your car recharge, 353 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: or if you're gonna get going, you can dish out 354 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: the sixty to eighty bucks or whatever the equivalent is 355 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: at that given moment and get a new battery switched 356 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: in and it'll be fully charged and does give you 357 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: a full range of travel. Again. So the other thing 358 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: about this proprietary technology is it means that only model 359 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: S vehicles can um plug into this stuff. So it's 360 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: not like there's any kind of uh market sensibility to 361 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: to get these things into as many charging stations as possible. 362 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: It's really just based on Tesla putting them in. Yeah, 363 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: because if you drive any electric vehicle from any other manufacturer, 364 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: you cannot take advantage of these superchargers. Um So it's 365 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of uh, it's kind of Tesla guaranteeing that 366 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: they're going to have an invested base because they've they're built, 367 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: they're the ones actually putting the infrastructure out there. They're 368 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: not depending upon other UH entities to do that. So far, 369 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: they have built seventy nine of those supercharger stations in 370 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: the U s um it's a it's a mostly West 371 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: coast trail. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. If you look 372 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: at the map, um, imagine that it starts in Seattle. 373 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 1: It didn't really start in Seattle, but just think of it. 374 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: It looks like it's looks like it's a snake in 375 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: a way that the one end of it is in Seattle. 376 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: Then goes down the West coast with lots of stations 377 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: in California, starts to loop inward. You guys who are 378 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: not from the United States are going to get a 379 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: really weird sense of geography here. But starts the loop 380 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: inward and goes into Arizona and New Mexico before arches 381 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: northward and goes into the upper Midwest States. Lots of 382 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: stations in Chicago, so once you get to Illinois, there's 383 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: a good cluster there. Then it continues into the northeastern 384 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: part of the United States, then trails down the East coast, 385 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: which is where we get you know, the one in 386 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: station goes down into Florida, and then you have a 387 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: disconnected pocket of supercharged stations in eastern Texas. In fact, 388 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: Bernie Burns of of Rooster teeth has a model s 389 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 1: Tesla and talks about how it's great. He loves it, 390 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: and he loves the supercharge stations, and he's frustrated about 391 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: a certain law that we will talk about in a 392 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: little bit. But yes, Um, Tesla plans to continue building 393 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: out this network of stations to get better coverage, and 394 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: in fact says that they estimate by the end of 395 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen they'll have eight percent of the United 396 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: States covered in parts of Canada as well, and by 397 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: the end of two thousand fifte percent of the country 398 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: should be covered, so that you should have a supercharger 399 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: within range of your vehicle and another one within range 400 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: of that one. Meanwhile, Europe does have a few yeah, yeah, 401 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: more than a dozen. Yes, that's how many they have 402 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: right now. And I didn't see any indication on the 403 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: website about Tesla's plans to build that infrastructure out very much. 404 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: I would imagine that they do plan on doing it, 405 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: but they didn't have any numbers like the eighty or 406 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: that they had for the United States. I'm sure that 407 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: as sticky as the legal situations here in the States 408 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: are right now, Um, probably they're they're trying to They're 409 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: they're picking which fish they are going to fry at 410 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: which time. Frying fish is a very delicate procedure. It is. 411 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: But in two thousand thirteen, in February, Musk had his 412 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: his little tiff with the New York Times. Oh right, 413 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: that was when John Broder wrote this this kind of 414 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: hypercritical article of the model asque called stalled out on 415 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: Tesla's electric highway. Yeah. He claimed that that he ended 416 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: up losing juice um and that the Tesla vehicle did 417 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: not adequately warn him, and Musk ended up writing an 418 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: extremely detailed blog post where they took lots of metrics 419 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: straight from the car from the car, that right, and 420 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: they said, look, we looked at what you did in 421 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: our car, and it's not the same thing as what 422 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: you said in the article. In fact, you wing two. 423 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: When you were charging it, you said that you need 424 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: to go sixty one miles. The vehicle had indicated that 425 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: you had enough of a charge for thirty two miles, 426 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: and then you stopped charging and started driving away, and 427 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: you still went fifty one miles. And then we're surprised, 428 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: apparently when you didn't go the full sixty sound miles. Yeah, 429 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: so what Musk was saying, is that you are not 430 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: being honest, You're being disingenuous with this report. And there 431 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: was a lot of back and forth between Broder and 432 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: Mosque and The New York Times in general, and eventually 433 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: Margaret Sullivan, the public editor of the New York Times, 434 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: offered a quasi apology, saying that there was some errors 435 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: in precision, but not in integrity. So it's almost like 436 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: a very double speak kind of apology. Yeah, so the 437 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: end of the day didn't hurt Tesla's sales at all. 438 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: People still had interest in the model s So this 439 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: review didn't didn't end up um or this article, I 440 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: guess I should say, didn't end up having a huge impact. 441 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: Though Musk at the time had claimed that because of that, 442 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: from a corporate standpoint, they lost about a hundred million 443 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: dollars in potential potential investment. I I honestly think that 444 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: it was It wound up driving positive hype for the 445 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 1: company um and at any rate, by Tesla would have 446 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: its first ever profitable quarter. YEP, they made five sixty 447 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: two million dollars in revenue. I have no idea how 448 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: much they made in profit because I don't know what 449 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: their costs were and uh I pulled this information from 450 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: their initial report, so I'm sure there was a more 451 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: specific report that goes into the profit. But consumer reports, Um, 452 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: they had some nice things to say, right Uh yeah, 453 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: unlike unlike the New York Times. They gave the models 454 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: their highest rating for a car ever, which was out 455 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: of there a hundred point scale. Now, meanwhile, there were 456 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: some other competitor companies that were also trying to get 457 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: into this electric car market. Uh. And they included companies 458 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: like Coda and Fisker, and both of these had been 459 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: struggling for a while. Coda would end up going bankrupt 460 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: the week before Tesla announced its profitable quarter, and Fisker 461 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: would eventually follow suit, declaring bankruptcy later on. Uh so 462 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: you know this. This was again another story about how 463 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: Tesla was able to defy the odds and and see 464 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: success while other companies were trying to do the same thing. 465 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: We're failing right right Um. As of Junior or June 466 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: and or July of Tesla paid back that four d 467 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: and sixty five million dollar loan from the Department of 468 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: Energy and simultaneously raised a billion dollars from investors. That's 469 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: pretty impressive that is also the time period that they 470 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: started announcing those battery swapping stations that we were just 471 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 1: talking about a moment ago. And so then in August 472 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen, Tesla announces that the National Highway Traffic 473 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Safety Administration awarded the Model S a five star safety 474 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: rating across all categories and sub categories. And according to 475 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: a press release on Tesla's website, they said that the 476 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: combined score technically, like when they would show scores, that 477 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: five was the top, but in reality it could go 478 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: a little higher than five. It's just that they would 479 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: say it's a five star rating. They so that there's 480 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: ended up being a five point four, which was the 481 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: highest that any car had ever received as far as 482 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: safety rating is concerned. And this included I think the 483 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: car that they sent over for testing was one that 484 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: had that seventh additional seat, and so you know, they 485 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: decided they tested this thing by doing lots of crumple zones. 486 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: They said that the but the fact that has a 487 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: frunk means that has a bigger crumple zone because it 488 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have that engine block there, so that helps protect 489 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: the driver and passengers from head on collision. They also 490 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: strengthened the car's sides, They strengthened the back. In fact, 491 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: one of the Tesla representatives said, you know, technically there 492 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: are ways you can gain the system because you know 493 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: which ways they're going to test the vehicle. So so 494 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: what we did was we strengthened those parts of the 495 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: vehicles first and then said, okay, how do we make 496 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the car as strong as these strong points. Yeah, 497 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: and and a few of those other really basic electric 498 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: car um contrivances, uh necessities really mean that the the 499 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: overall strength of the car can can be based on 500 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: the underbelly. It can be completely flat, which can allow 501 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: you to cut down on on a lot of annoying 502 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: stuff like a like road vibration and stuff like that, 503 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: and and also make it much more U crash compatible. Right, 504 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: and also it's got a you know, the fact that 505 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: you've got the battery pack down there beneath the floor 506 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: pan means that has a very low center of gravity, 507 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: which actually helps not only in the handling but instability. 508 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: It means it's really hard to flip it over. In fact, 509 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 1: they said that in the tests where they were you know, 510 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: trying to flip the car, they had to go through 511 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: extreme measures in order to get the car to flip 512 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: because the center gravity was so low. Perhaps in response 513 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: to this innoc hoper m, a bunch of kind of 514 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: sensationalistic news stories began popping up about fires breaking out 515 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: and model SS And to be fair, these these fires 516 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: were popping up in cars that had that had just 517 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: been in a crash. Um and I haven't heard any 518 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: stories of these fires getting past the cars safety firewalls 519 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: into the passenger compartments. It was all just in the 520 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: confined to the battery. And uh uh, some of the 521 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: emergency response teams that showed up didn't know entirely how 522 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: to deal with an electric car fire as opposed to 523 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: a a gasoline engine fire. The method of dealing and 524 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: containing that kind of thing is pretty pretty different. Yet 525 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: um and Uh Musk and True Musk style post a 526 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: really calmly derisive blog response about how driving around with 527 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: large tanks of highly flammable fuel really isn't um more 528 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: safe than his electric batteries. So sends a lot like 529 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: saying that, hey, just because he used bitcoins to launder money, 530 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: you know what else is used to under money? Dollar 531 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: bills way more as it turns out same, SAME's worth 532 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: of thing. It's it's funny that we're recording these episodes 533 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: so close together, and and the themes are so close. 534 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: February two fourteen, Tesla announced a planned five billion dollar 535 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: giga factory factory. Yeah, I can't help but think of quagmire. Uh, 536 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: this giga factory, this is just to produce um there's 537 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: lithium ion batteries four vehicles. Yeah, and in fact, this 538 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: would be an attempt to make them easier to get 539 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 1: to because as it turns out, Uh, there are several 540 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: large companies that supply lithium ion batteries, but Tesla's pretty 541 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: much beholden to them, right. That's that's where it's the 542 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: only source they can go to to get these. They 543 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: say that they're planned twenty twenty production using this factory 544 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: building these lithium ion batteries, that the the amount they 545 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: produced in that factory would actually be more than the 546 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: global cell supply in two thousand thirteen. So in this 547 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: one factory they would be able to make more cells 548 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: that would be assembled into batteries than they could get 549 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: if they had the the corner on the global market 550 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, and and this is all part of 551 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: the third step of that plan that we talked about 552 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: in our first episode for for the company to uh, 553 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, first produce a sports car and then produce 554 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: a Family Sedana luxury Family Sedan granted, but then to 555 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: begin producing electric cars for the common person. Yeah, and 556 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: so uh they say that this twenty twenty production would 557 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: allow them to create to produce as many as half 558 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: a million vehicles in a year once it goes online. 559 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: So they're looking right now, it's the factory is not built. 560 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: They're looking at different potential sites to build this factory. Uh. 561 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: They first went ahead and discounted California, so it's not 562 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: going to be there. They said that it will probably 563 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: be in either Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, or maybe Texas. 564 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: But although at this point it's looking like maybe not Texas. Yeah. 565 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: So March two thousand fourteen, Texas had already passed this 566 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: law that I'm about to talk about. But this is 567 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: when New Jersey joins Texas, Colorado, Virginia, and Arizona by 568 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: passing legislation that bands Tesla from using direct sales to 569 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: sell cars to customers. Right, as we said earlier, Tesla 570 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: uses direct sales, they don't go through a third party dealership, um. 571 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: And dealerships don't really like that so much. No, And 572 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: in fact, they often have a lot of political sway 573 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: of particularly in certain states like I don't know, Texas. 574 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: So you get into these the states where you have 575 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: politicians who say no, you know, Tesla needs to play 576 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: by the same rules that these automakers are playing. They 577 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: do also claim that it's better for shoppers and owners 578 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: alike to be dealing with third party party sellers um, 579 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: and that that's going to encourage competition. Yeah. I don't know, Lauren. 580 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: Have you ever gone to a dealership where someone told 581 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: you that whatever car you were interested in was not 582 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: the right car for you? I have, Um, I have 583 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: so many opinions about car dealerships and the way that 584 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: they sell cars. I have gone through this process twice 585 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: in my life, and um I I don't genuinely hate 586 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: many things, but car dealerships are something that I have 587 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: that it's like, it's like flames on the side face. Yeah, No, 588 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean burning fiery passion. So see, this 589 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: is it's interesting to me because Tesla's approach otherwise is 590 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: very much like apples Now. Now, granted, you can buy 591 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: Apple and other stores, so it's not it's not completely analogous, 592 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: but but it's pretty vertical. I mean, yeah, Apple has 593 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: its own store that you can go to and you 594 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: can buy from Apple. You can either buy it online 595 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: or you can go to the physical store and buy 596 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: it there. Uh, but you can also go to Best 597 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: Buy or whatever and buy Apples. That's some of those. 598 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: But in this case, Tesla is very much like the 599 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: pure Apple experience, saying you come to us, we will 600 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,479 Speaker 1: sell you a car. And these states have said you 601 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: cannot do that, and in fact, uh, at least not 602 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: in our state. So if you want to buy a 603 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: Tesla and you live in one of these states, you 604 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: have to leave the state first to buy it. You 605 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: can bring it back to here, then that's fine. Yeah, 606 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not the driving the vehicle in New 607 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: Jersey or Texas is illegal. It's not, but it's illegal 608 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: to purchase it the way Tesla sells it. So people 609 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: like like Bernie Burns that I mentioned, have to leave 610 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: their home state to go and purchase a car that 611 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: they want. I mean, like I said, Texas even has 612 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: some of those supercharger stations available. They have some of 613 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: the infrastructure, but they still have this law that says 614 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: you cannot buy direct from Tesla, which is one of 615 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: the reasons why some people think that Tesla may not 616 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: choose Texas to be the home for that gigaf fector 617 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: or perhaps Arizona at that point. Yeah. True, Yeah, so 618 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: it may be that Nevada is gonna win out on 619 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: that one. We'll see. But anyway, these days you could 620 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: buy a models if you have the you know, the wherewithal. 621 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: There's also the Model x A, right, you can put 622 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: down a reservation for that, although like we said earlier, 623 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: like Jonathan said earlier, Um, the deliveries of those are 624 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: if if if you preserve today, are not planned to 625 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: be in right, so there should be Model x is 626 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: on the road before the end of this year. I 627 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: don't think any have rolled off the assembly lines yet 628 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: from the customers that I'm personally aware of. And the 629 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: roadster is officially off of the market, so I'm sure 630 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: that a few of them are floating around here, and 631 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: that like a you know, fifty grand or so, you 632 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: might might be able to pick up a used one. 633 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: Uh anyway, So yeah, that's the story. Of Tesla Motors 634 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: so far. It actually, to me is a remarkable story 635 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: on multiple fronts. For one thing, the idea of a 636 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: company that is coming at the electric car problem from 637 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: a totally different direction than other companies do. Write other 638 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: companies coming in from let's let's really target the echo 639 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: environmentally friendly market. Tesla says, let's go with these cars 640 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: can be sexy. Yeah, let's go with a really high 641 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: end user and and and convince them convinced the world 642 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: that this is something that they want. And and you know, therefore, 643 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: by trickle down effect go you know, when when they 644 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: put out something that's cheaper, have the common guy go like, 645 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: oh man, that's that company that makes those incredibly sexy cars. 646 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: I want incredibly sexy cars. Especially since by that time 647 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: they've built out a lot of the infrastructure that you 648 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: would need to charge your vehicle if you ever had 649 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: to do it when you're out on the road. That 650 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: makes it practical. So I think really savvy. Yeah, they 651 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: went about it in a really really interesting way. Obviously 652 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't smooth sailing to make the entire time smooth 653 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: road sailing. Yes, yeah, And by the way, we're not 654 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: suggested that Tesla cars are like boats. Um. Anyway, it 655 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: will be really interested to see how this goes. I'm 656 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: very curious to see in the next five or six 657 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 1: years what kind of of the lower cost cars Tesla 658 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: comes out with, assuming that they do continue on that path. Yeah, 659 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm excited about that potential Giga factory thing. Yeah. I 660 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: would love to be able to to see Tesla dealerships 661 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: or stores what I guess they're technically stores pop up 662 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: in a lot more places to to and uh maybe 663 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: even see competing um companies come out with their own 664 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: electric vehicles that are just as compelling to to the 665 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 1: average driver as the Tesla has been so um. Yeah, 666 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: and plus it also means that we're going to see 667 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: other alternatives as well, like the hydrogen fuel cell cars. 668 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: It's really exciting to me to see this kind of 669 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: development away from the internal combustion engine as we are 670 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: all familiar. So if you guys have any suggestions for 671 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: future episodes of tech stuff, here's the thought. Let's know 672 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: about them. Don't just whisper it quietly into your pillow 673 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: at night. We can't hear that anymore, and I say, 674 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: has told us to cut that out. But if you 675 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: would send us an email, send that to tech stuff 676 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: at Discovery dot com, or drop us a line on 677 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: the social networks we frequent, which include Tumblr, Twitter, and Facebook. 678 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: We use the handle tech Stuff hs W and you 679 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: should too, and we will talk to you again, really 680 00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: soon