1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: player for you state Steve a blimp. We're not even 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: in the strated here of normalcy here all right, rocking 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: and rolling on a Monday. Chris Brown in here with 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: w IVVTV sports director Josh Reid, sitting in for a 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: golfing Steve Tasker who is at the Jim Kelly Golf 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: tournament today. So at least he's golfing for a cause, 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: because it's gotten to the point now, Josh, I don't 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: know if you're aware of this where people We were 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: a training camp last week and this guy comes up 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: to me and he goes, hey, where's Steve? And I said, oh, 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: he's he's here. He's right behind me. He goes, how 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: much vacation does that guy get onto him? WHOA, Okay, 15 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: maybe it's more noticeable than I thought, but uh yeah, 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: he he hasn't gone over the limit. That doesn't happen here. 17 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: Once you've reached your limit. That's kind of it. I mean, 18 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: with some major extenuating circumstances. So he hasn't he hasn't 19 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: filled the bill just yet. He's I think he said 20 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: he's done, though, I think he's at the limit today. 21 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Today's the limit. So there'll be plenty of Steve coming 22 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: your way. But we're glad to have you in here, Josh, 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: So thanks for helping us out. As I told you 24 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: before we went on the air, I missed the preseason opener. 25 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: I was taking my son to college. He's at the 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: University of Georgia, and we drove it. That is a 27 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: hall thirteen and a half down and we did all 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: in one shot, and then last night twelve forty back. 29 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: And I can say unequivocally West Virginia is the worst 30 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: state to drive a car through. Maybe on the planet, 31 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: but definitely in the in the lower forty eight. Here, 32 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: it is horrendous because you cannot put your car and 33 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: cruise control because of the hills. And I was, let's 34 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: telling my wife this last night when we were driving 35 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: back through West Virginia. You remember when you had those 36 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: matchbox cars with the race tracks and everything. When you're 37 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: driving through West Virginia, it's like when you were a 38 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: kid and you ran out of all the straightaway tracks 39 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: and all you got less left or the s curves 40 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: to finish your track. That you built. That's what it is. 41 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: It's all s curves all the way, just in and 42 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: out of mountains. It's endless. I can't believe that you 43 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: drove thirteen straight hours. I'm still stopping for gas and 44 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: you know that. But I can't. I'm probably six hours tops, Yeah, 45 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: on a journey, whether I'm passenger or driving. I just 46 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: I can't do it. I can't. I get too bored. 47 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: My add kicks in and well, like, oh what am 48 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: I gonna do now? I'm on podcast number nineteen because 49 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: I flipped through all of them one hour in. Yeah, 50 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: I uh, I can confidently say the next time I'm 51 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: doing that might be for graduation when we got to 52 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: pull everything out in four years. Uh. Because I'm telling 53 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: you right now, day three, I was down there, I'm 54 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: driving around looking at storage units. Yeah, yeah, I mean 55 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: because the end of this year, I am flying there 56 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: direct to Atlanta, hopping in a rental, driving up and 57 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: then we'll pack them up in a storage facility and 58 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: it's just and we'll do the same thing next year 59 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: at this time fly down because it's a direct shot 60 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: to Atlanta and then it's like an hour and a 61 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: half to half and so what's that city? Like, what's 62 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: that town? Is built around the college or is there 63 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: more to it? I think there's probably more. I was 64 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: surprised it's one hundred and twenty thousand population. I didn't 65 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: know it was that big. I would never guess, um, 66 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's a cool town, like it's it's good 67 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: for a big college. I would say, would it be 68 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: as big if the college wasn't there? Probably not, but 69 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's I don't know. I don't know. 70 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: I haven't been there enough times. It's not a ghost 71 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: town when the school's not open, because we had visited 72 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend last year after school was out, and 73 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't a ghost town. It was quiet. It was 74 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: definitely different than it was to spast weekend when it 75 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: was a zoo um because everybody with kids just descended 76 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: on it was nuts, like snarled up traffic. And what's 77 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: the plans for Saturday games? Down there? Is? Is he 78 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: gonna go to? How do they do tickets? Is it 79 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: based on have freshman or last in the pecking order 80 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: and kind of that way? I think the only actually 81 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: for the home games on campus, I think freshman get 82 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: priority is what I think my son told me, which 83 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: sounds strange, but where they go to the back of 84 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: the line is for neutral site games SEC title game 85 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: at you know, Mercedes Benz in Atlanta or the neutral 86 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: site game in Jacksonville against Florida, which is the big 87 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: rivalry game. So all the upper classmen get priority for 88 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: the road trips for those two games. M assuming they're 89 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: in the SEC title game again. But it's looking good. 90 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: He just at a pure luck ran into Jalen Carter, 91 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: the defensive tackle. He's gonna be like a top ten 92 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 1: pick this year, so he was. He was pretty stoked 93 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: about that. But holy cow, like these human beings man, 94 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: that they're getting at the college level, it's nuts. Like 95 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: Alabama Georgia they don't get anything but like five stars, 96 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: and they're like they're too deep. Is all five stars 97 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe a few fours thrown in there. It's insane. Well, 98 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean we see it here every year the draft 99 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: rolls around and it's it's the SEC. You know, it's 100 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: literally the well welcome to the Welcome to the NFL 101 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: SEC players parade every single year. It's nuts. But I 102 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: have come to the conclusion that and this I realized 103 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: this might be a sweeping generalization. People that drive in 104 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: the South are crazy. They are out of their gourds. 105 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the speed limit down there is seventy, 106 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: which is great when you're trying to make time, which 107 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: I was trying to do on a long drive. You know, 108 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: when you push it over a little bit the limit, 109 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: not too much, you don't, you know, you don't get 110 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: a little too crazy. But I'm in the right lane 111 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: probably doing like seventy six, seventy eight somewhere in there. 112 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: I got people passing me in the left lane. It's 113 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: like I'm standing still. It's not like they're doing eighty 114 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: in passing me. I'm watching these people. I'm like, I'm 115 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: looking at my spinama. That guy's doing at least ninety, 116 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: like maybe ninety five. I'm a firm believer in eight 117 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: as great. Nine is nine is fine for over the liver, 118 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: over the limit. That's my theory. There's usually a ten 119 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: mile per hour window that you can play with. Yeah, 120 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: but you start hitting eleven over it's seventy and you're 121 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: hitting eighty one. Yeah, I hope you've got your checkbook. 122 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: I did not see much as smoky out there. I 123 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: was happy to say, so fortunate. Not that I really 124 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: pushed it too much at any stretch, but there are 125 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: some straight stretches in Georgia where you can just go 126 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: and people do, are you a cruise control guy? I'm 127 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: a big like I'll set it and set it forget 128 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: it now, I want to say in the past. Yes, 129 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: But I recently got a newer car. It's just about 130 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: three years old, just got it in March, and it's great. 131 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: I love the car. But these newer cars, I don't 132 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: know if you're familiar with this, they have this assisted 133 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: cruise control. It's called ACC. Yeah, that's the light that 134 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: lights up on the dash. So I was like, oh, 135 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: let me try it, you know, like I didn't even 136 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: read it in the manual. What's entailed. Because of the 137 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: sensors on the front of the car, it will break 138 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: for you have that if you are in proximity to 139 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: the car in front of you at a certain distance, 140 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: it'll slow you down or gear you down, whatever you 141 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: want to call it. And so I was trying it 142 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh, like, great, it's a 143 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: safety feature, but this is annoying. Yeah, it takes a while. 144 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: I had to turn it off. I couldn't do it, 145 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: so I had foot on the pedal the whole time. So, 146 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't a big deal, but it was. 147 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: It was annoying to not have it when I wanted 148 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: to kind of relax a little bit. Now, cruise control 149 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: is not an option in West Virginia because you're going 150 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: up hills and your car is like straining to get 151 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: back up to your cruise speed. It's like overdrive. Half 152 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: the time you are burnt. You are hemorrhaging fuel. In 153 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: West Virginia going up those hills, the winding turns. Oh 154 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: my god. If no offense to any West Virginia natives, 155 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: but if I could avoid that state, and I would 156 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: add half an hour to an hour to my trip, 157 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: if I could somehow circumnavigate West Virginia not drive through 158 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: it at all. It is that, I mean, just of 159 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: extra focus. You have to have to drive down those 160 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 1: hills at that speed and around those turns like you 161 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: cannot relax. You're an oval track guy, You're not a 162 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: road course guy. Or give me a straight away forever 163 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: like the New York State Thruway. I love it driving 164 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: to camp That's FANTASTICO. I'll do that eight days out 165 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: of ten, like, give it to me every day. West Virginia. No, 166 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: just no. And I tried a different route. I went 167 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: usually you come down and instead of making the turn 168 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: on seventy nine to go to Pittsburgh, you had west 169 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: and you go you know, into West Ohio for half 170 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: a second, and then West Virginia whatever. I'm like, you 171 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: know what, I'm going this way. So some people had 172 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: told me that have been to Georgia, Hey, go west 173 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: into Ohio further, take the ninety almost to Cleveland. But 174 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: then when you hit two seventy one, take that south 175 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: twound through Columbus. Yeah. Well no, not even that far west. 176 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,239 Speaker 1: Take it down and I could have gone Columbus Cincinnati 177 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: and avoided West Virginia entirely, but it was adding an 178 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: hour and a half. I'm like, ah, I can't do 179 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: fourteen and a half fifteen I'm not doing that. So 180 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: I said, let me hedge my bet. So I took 181 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: two seventy one and I pick up seventy seven early, 182 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: which goes all the way down to Charlotte. But you 183 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: still have to go through the western part of West Virginia. 184 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 1: But they claim it's not as hilly and it's not 185 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: as windy you found them. They lied. The only thing 186 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: it had. The only reason it's better over there than 187 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: it is coming through the eastern part of West Virginia 188 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: is you avoid State Route nineteen, which you have if 189 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: you have ever been on you were probably swearing as 190 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: I describe it, because they have, just out of nowhere 191 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: on State Route nineteen in West Virginia, fifty mile per 192 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: hour zones with traffic lights. So you're coming down, you're 193 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: coming around a curve and there are signs that say, hey, 194 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: traffic light coming up, you know whatever, slow down. But 195 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: you come around the turn and all of a sudden 196 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: there's the fifty mile per hour speed limit sign. You're like, whoa, 197 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: So you're getting off the games, but you're going downhill 198 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: like now you're you know, you sound like the semi 199 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: on the brakes, and you got cops waiting at the 200 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: hill to pay Oh what are you doing sixty five 201 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: and a fifty to see the traffic lights like it 202 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: was around it's a blind turn. I didn't see that, 203 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: and so you're not making good time. You're you can't 204 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: use cruise control. You have these fifty mile hour zones 205 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: with traffic lights. And it's just like, I can't do it. 206 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: So I went down through the western side and it 207 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: was better, but it's still West Virginia. It's just you're 208 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: gonna be that's gonna be a flight going forward. Yes, 209 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: I've got a strong feeling. Oh, I'm already racking up 210 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: the points on the credit card. I got the airline 211 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: points going and I am buying. I am not using 212 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: cash for the next four years ever. Again, I am 213 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: racking up anything. I don't care if I'm buying a 214 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: pack of gum at the grocery store. I am using 215 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: the credit card just to get points, points and points 216 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: and hope I can rack up enough to pay for 217 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: flights and stuff, which is a whole other thing with 218 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: flight cancelations these days. Yeah, you got to avoid connections 219 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: like the plague, because if you have a connection, there 220 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 1: is no guarantee you're getting back. And you're I know, 221 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: you're the team got all the bills games lined up. 222 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: You know, we traveled to every road game, and we've 223 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: booked all of our flights, and each flight every time 224 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: we look and go, well, knock all, let's hope we 225 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: get there. Let's hope we get bad. I gotta imagine 226 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: you for scheduling it work like you got to plug 227 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: somebody in on Monday almost no matter what, because there's 228 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: a chance you can not get because we usually don't 229 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: fly out until the day after the game, whether it's 230 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: a Monday night game with Tuesday morning whatever. So yeah, 231 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: I mean, and by the time we get back, there's 232 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: almost always a layover. By the time we get back, 233 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: we have to have somebody you know, kind of ready 234 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: to go here back in Buffalo, because we know that 235 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: the coaches talk the next day. I actually, we'll get 236 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: to the game in a second because it's important and 237 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: we know and we got to talk about first impressions, 238 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: last story from this trip. So we get down there 239 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: and he's got a mini fridge in his room, as 240 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: most college kids do. And uh, we got you know, 241 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: so we got to run to the local grocery store 242 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: pick up a couple of items. So we go into 243 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: the grocery store and you know, on the front wall, 244 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: behind the registers, they have you know, meet your team manager. 245 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: Store manager's so happy to help. Yeah, storm manager at 246 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: the local grocery store in Athens. Josh Allen, Awesome, I 247 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: took a picture. That's great and of course. My wife's like, oh, 248 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: you're you're Storm managers. Josh Allen? Is he here? She's like, 249 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: I was like, you want to meet him? Like what 250 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: are you talking about? She goes, well, I just want 251 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: to know if he likes football, and she's like, well, 252 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: he's not here, but he does like football. She's like, 253 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: does he like the build. I'm like, n We're in Georgia, Like, 254 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: probably not. There's a better chance than he likes Jacksonville, right, 255 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: and the other Josh Allen. I think I think I'm 256 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: trying to remember what my wife said the lady the 257 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: cashier told her. I think she said he was, um, 258 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: either a Panthers fan or a Falcons fan, and I 259 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: can't remember now, but he's mainly a college football guy, 260 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: which most of the people down there are. UM. So 261 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, the weird thing is he likes the 262 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: Florida Gators, which is like sacrilege. Yeah, like sacrilege. This 263 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: is a tweet. There is Josh Allen co manager that 264 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: is great, also a Gator fan. Yeah, so no wonder 265 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: he wasn't in the story. He probably doesn't show his 266 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: face very much as a Gators fan in Athens, Georgia, 267 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: but you know, or Commerce, Georgia is where he was. 268 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: But holy cow, I was like, I gotta take a picture. 269 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: This is amazing. I tweeted it. I was like, hey, Josh, 270 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: you know this guy. I tweeted it. It was it 271 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: was pretty good. Um. Some people were not kind in 272 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: saying that it's clearly not Josh Allen. Um. I was like, yeah, 273 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: we know that. Like on we're just having a little 274 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: fun here, right, just having a little fun. Um. So yeah, 275 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad the trip is over and he's settled and 276 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: ready to roll. But man, that is a drive that 277 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: I would like to forget sooner rather than later. Um, 278 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: but we had to do it. There's no other way 279 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: to get all that stuff down there. I mean, I 280 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: guess there aren't people to do that. Like they buy 281 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: all their kids stuff and then they have it for 282 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: pick up at the store in the town of whatever 283 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: college you're dealing with, which is not a bad idea. 284 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: Oh it's a good idea. Sounds expensive, Yeah, it is 285 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: expensive because we looked at that. Yeah it's expensive. Now 286 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: you're starting to think maybe it wasn't too expensive. It 287 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: might have been worth it might have been there's a 288 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: lot of stuff site on sanity kind of want to 289 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: see and say, oh, do I really like this? Do 290 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: I not like this? So there's some of that too, 291 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: But enough about that. The Bills played a preseason game 292 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: over the weekend in case you didn't know, and you've 293 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: been living under a rock, and in come from behind 294 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: fashion Matt Barkley leading the charge in the second half. 295 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna say this right off the bat, Josh, 296 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: because I did watch the game front to back this morning. 297 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,359 Speaker 1: I like what Barkley's done this entire training camp in preseason. 298 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: I would even go as far as to say I 299 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: think he's playing better now than when he was here 300 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: the last time the Blue and Red scrimmage, like a 301 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: little over a week ago, I thought he was great. Yea, 302 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks were great. The offense was great that 303 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: night too. But I really like his anticipatory throws this summer, 304 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: maybe more than ever. It's it's like a facet of 305 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: his game. I was like, did I just forget that 306 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: he was that kind of an anticipatory thrower because he's 307 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: dropping him over the shoulders of people. I mean, he 308 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: did it again over the weekend. I was just like, man, 309 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: did Barkley get better when he was gone, because I 310 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, Maybe I just didn't pay 311 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: enough attention the last time. I really like what I've 312 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: seen from him. Yeah, and keep in mind the last 313 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: time he was here, he was in a different situation too, 314 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: so he was going up against threes, you know, threes 315 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: this time, and back then it was twos. You know, 316 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: he was asked to do a little more against a 317 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: little better talent. This time. He's out there and he's 318 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: a veteran and he's looking around it. A lot of 319 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: rookies on the other side of the ball, going, oh, 320 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: I can pick these guys apart, like, there's not a 321 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: lot that Matt Barkley just because he's been around the 322 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: league so long that he hasn't seen that was a 323 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: great play by Hodgens. And you talk about a guy 324 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: who trending in the right direction, you know, a guy 325 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: who was you know, you wondered if he had a 326 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: chance to make this squad three weeks ago, and all 327 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Yeah, Hodgens made some plays in that 328 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: preseason game, and the last week and a half looked 329 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: pretty good at training camp. But yeah, Matt Barkley was 330 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: out there slinging it, and I mean there's I don't 331 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: want to say there's nothing on the line for Matt Barkley, 332 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: but I think he probably knows where he fits into 333 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: the puzzle here, so he's comfortable with three of those 334 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: guys to be here. I mean, maybe not all on 335 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: the fifty three. With he expanded practice squad, you're afforded 336 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: options like that. And we saw them do that last year. 337 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: You know, Davis Webb is on the practice squad all 338 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: year long, so it was from before he got poached. 339 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: So you know, I envisioned that again this year in 340 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: all likelihood, right, I mean, that's probably the way it's going. 341 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: Case Keenham the victim of some tipped asses for picks unfortunate. 342 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to assign blame. I mean even heard Steve 343 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: on the broadcast say, well, you could look at it 344 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: two ways. You could put it on Crowder because it 345 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: hit him in the hands and he should have caught it. 346 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: You could put it on Keenham because the ball got 347 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: on crowd or Quick didn't get his head around and 348 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: then it's on him and he can't squeeze the orange 349 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: and pull it in. But the turnovers were obviously a problem. 350 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: Well they have five another layer to that. What you're 351 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: talking about is the Colts had a lot of ones 352 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: out there they did on defense, and the Bills are 353 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: running out there with their twos, and that has a 354 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: lot to do with some of those struggles. I mean, 355 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: anytime in the league, no matter what team it is, 356 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: if it's ones versus twos, there's gonna it's gonna look 357 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: a little different. It's not gonna go as well for 358 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: the twos. The the interesting part about that was the 359 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: defensive line for the Bills, which was technically their twos 360 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: against the Colts ones. There is some times they were 361 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: resetting the line of scrimmage. There not a lot of 362 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: room for the Colts to run. They didn't have Jonathan 363 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: Taylor in the game. I think that was one of 364 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: the only storters who did not play for them. And 365 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: we actually heard Frank Rych after the game say, yeah, 366 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: he's not suiting up for the whole preseason. And I 367 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: don't blame him. I mean, you know what you got 368 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: in him. Yeah, and he's gonna get plenty of carries 369 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: during the day regular season. Only that you go back 370 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: and I remember him coming into the draft. He had 371 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: a ton of carries in college. Yeah, so that's a 372 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: guy that he's got mine. You don't need to throw 373 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: any more carries on that on those legs, you know, 374 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: before the regular season and things start to count. Yeah, 375 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: I thought Keenam did have the typical veteran response after 376 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: the game about, you know, some of the turnovers. He 377 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: put them all on himself, which I don't think is 378 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: completely accurate. But that's what quarterbacks do, you know, shoulder 379 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: the play, you know, let the young guys kind of 380 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: escape a little bit. I'm sure that's not the way 381 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: it goes in the film room with the different position 382 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: groups when they were reviewing everything the day after. Um 383 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: he had a moving on that opening drive. They were 384 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: they just went right down the field here with a 385 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: couple of nice receptions. Then they got down and you know, 386 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: they got down close to the goal line or on 387 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: the ten yard line. He tried to hit the tight 388 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: end a couple of times. I think the first time 389 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: it was Sweening. I think the second time, I think 390 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: he looked for Oj Howard just couldn't connect. They just 391 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: kind of bogged down there near the goal line. Yeah, 392 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: so we're asking you today at eight fifty two, five 393 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: fifty in on the tweet sheet as well, which Bill's 394 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: new newcomer made a good first impression on you? That 395 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: draft choices, undrafted rookies, free agents, anybody that's new on 396 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: the roster this year who made a good first impression 397 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: on you in the Bills preseason openers. So you can 398 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: let us know, do you have a short list of 399 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: people that you kind of said, Oh, that's pretty good. 400 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: I like that, like how that looks. Yeah, that list 401 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: starts with an eighty two yard punt smoke. Yeah, I 402 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: mean it's one thing to hear about it, and it's 403 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: another thing to see it in Again. I know it 404 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: was a preseason game, but it's still a game action. 405 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: This is just hit. Both of his feet come up 406 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: off the ground. It's just it's so it was so impressive. 407 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean he I think his his when he caught 408 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: the Yeah, he's on the five right there, and it 409 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: looks like it leaves his foot. He's on the seven 410 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: and that thing goes five yards into the end zone. 411 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: It stops rolling and bouncing. Yeah, I mean sixty two 412 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: net on that you'll take a touchback when it goes 413 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: eighty two yards well and the right. And the thing 414 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: is is it was late in the first half, so 415 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: situationally it was even big at that point because the 416 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: Colts had a couple of time outs left. It's late 417 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: in the first half. You know, if that's your normal 418 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: fifty yard punt, you know, you know there's a chance 419 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: that the Colts get the ball around the forty thirty 420 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: five and they're trying them to get a field goal 421 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: and getting field goal range, they start drive on the 422 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: twenty and they're going, yeah, there's no we don't want 423 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: to turn it over at this point and then give 424 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: the Bills the short field. It just yeah, And I'd 425 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: say the other thing, there was concern about him holding right. 426 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: Bass knocks home a couple of field goals with them 427 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: holding extra point, no problem. He answered any questions and 428 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: concerns that you may have had. I don't think it 429 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: could have gone better from an evaluation standpoint for special 430 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: teams coordinator Matthew Smiley and head coach Sean McDermott on 431 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: a rise at number one. As you mentioned that punt 432 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: that went eighty two yards, even coach Reference did after 433 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: the game that was a quote unquote pressure punt for 434 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: a rookie player. You're deep in your own territory. You're 435 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: trying to flip the field so they don't have a 436 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: chance to put points on the board with the ensuing possession. 437 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: Check the box, okay, then game winning field goal. Hold. 438 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: You know, this is the last play of regulation. You 439 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: either win the game or you're going overtime. Get the 440 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: ball down and he did. And there was one other 441 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: snap in the game where the ball, like the belly 442 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: of the ball kind of scraped the turf rat It 443 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: was a little millisecond, It was a little bit low, 444 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: like a millisecond, and he got it up on its sad. Yeah, 445 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: that was the first time, might have been the first one. Yeah, 446 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: And he got it up and spun de laces at 447 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: the last second and got it because Bass doesn't have 448 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: a long well, nobody can have a long approach in 449 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: the league. You gotta get it off quick. But I 450 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: think he comes in fast, like you gotta get it 451 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: down and spun quickly with him because there's not a 452 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: lot of time. And I mean, he checked all the 453 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: boxes yesterday and Steve and I have talked about this, Josh. 454 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: If all things are relatively equal between him and Hack 455 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: you're probably siding with the rookie because of upside alone. Sure, yeah, 456 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: And I mean just being able to completely change field 457 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: position based on an eighty two yard punt and knowing 458 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: that you've got that club in your golf bag. I mean, 459 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: it's nice to know when you're pinning back that you 460 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: you may just go ahead. You pinned inside the ten 461 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: yard line and you've got a punter that's punting from 462 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: your own end zone and he may pin them back 463 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: on the thirty. Well, it's it's pretty crazy to think 464 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: because if he develops into the punt, they believe he 465 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: can be you know, where he's more consistent and he's 466 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: cracking eighty two yarders whenever you need him, or even 467 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: seventy yarders. I mean, most people are gonna be pretty 468 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: happy with sixty. Sure, if he's gonna regularly kick seventy, 469 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: and I imagine that number will come down once the 470 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: weather turns here, and that's gonna be another battle he's 471 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with and he can't prepare for 472 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: that until it's here. You're gonna have the following, a 473 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: punter who lengthens the field for the opponent and a 474 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: kicker who shortens the field for your office. Sure. I 475 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: mean they could end up with all the talent that 476 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: we talk about on this roster. In two years from now, 477 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: we could be talking about them having the best punter, kicker, 478 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: combo or at top five guys at their respective positions, 479 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: provided a rise it comes along. I mean, the natural 480 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: ability is clearly there. The thing that Steve and I 481 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: talk about him a lot is and I had noticed 482 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: this and I mentioned it to Steve when we were 483 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: watching him kick at training camp. Steve's doing the snap 484 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: to hold times and the snap to catch times and 485 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and I'm doing hang time. So we're 486 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: just kind of comparing notes and everything. I said, Watch 487 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: the way he kicks, Steve. He doesn't kick like a 488 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: traditional punter like you think of like Brian Mormon or 489 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: Ray Guy. Those scissors split guys, you know, their foots 490 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: up back behind their ear after they're done. This guy's 491 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: leg doesn't even get above his armpit and he jumps 492 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: both and yeah, I mean he puts everything into it. 493 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: But he's not one of those like you don't look 494 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: like Barishnikov punting, you know what I mean, punting the ball, 495 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: it's a it's a different style of punting. I mean, 496 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, it works for him, so don't 497 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: change it. But he does not, you know what I mean. 498 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: It's not like one of those pointing to the sky 499 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: punters that you used to see, you know, in the 500 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties, and like I was saying, even Mormon 501 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: used to kick that way. Yeah, what a time to 502 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: be alive that after the first preseason game, we're sitting 503 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: around talking about punters for five minutes, right, But you 504 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean, right, I mean, that's where lost today, 505 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: and that's where we are with this roster. Yeah, is that? 506 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna be interested to see though, and hopefully 507 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: it comes up at some point. Let's see how his 508 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: touch is when he needs to pin one down inside, 509 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, if they have the ball on the forty 510 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: and Sean decides, you know what, let's punt and see 511 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: if he can put it down inside the ten yard 512 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: un Let's we know he's got the cannon, but let's 513 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: see what he is with, you know, the mid range 514 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: jumper right, and the directional punting too. We saw him 515 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: actually doing that some middle of the week last week 516 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: at camp before it closed up shop at Saint John Fisher, 517 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: and he and Hawk were I think they were punting 518 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: from like their own forty five and they were trying 519 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: to cough and corner the punts directionally. And there was 520 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: some wind in their face that day, as much wind 521 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: as there is in Rochester. It's not like here, and 522 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 1: they were doing okay. I gotta imagine there's a lot 523 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: of elements of his punting game that are untapped areas 524 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: of punting that. I mean, you gotta believe in many 525 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: cases with a leg that big. His college coach said, 526 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: just give it all. You gotta just crack the hell 527 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: out of the ball. I don't wherever it goes is fine, 528 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: just as Yeah, they're not worried about directional punning or 529 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: hanging it high and relying on a cover JUnit. Just 530 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: kick the hell out of the thing. Yeah. So now 531 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: he's got to kind of master the finer points at 532 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: the highest level of football. I mean, that's gonna take 533 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: some time. But early early returns or my god, I 534 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: mean that's pretty good. And I don't want to and 535 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: Hawk I kind of feel bad for him because he 536 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: was in a pooch punt situation and so his job was, 537 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, hang time punted forty yards and he did that. 538 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: He had like a nice hang time on a thirty 539 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: nine yard punt, forced the fair catch, did his job. 540 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: This kid comes out and eighty two. You know, he 541 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: he hits it off the tee almost four hundred yards. 542 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: It's just, oh my god, that's gonna get all the headlines. 543 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: And it did, so you kind of feel bad for 544 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: Hawk a little bit, But what are you gonna do. 545 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: We have to take a break here. Quick reminder. We've 546 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: got our good friend Greg coas el Reach joining us 547 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: for another season. He will make his debut appearance coming 548 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: up in the second hour of the show, so stay 549 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: tuned for that. But right now, we want your thoughts 550 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: on which Bill's newcomer made a good first impression on 551 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: you in The Bill's first preseason game, ay come from 552 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: behind twenty seven twenty four victory over the Colts. It's 553 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: Chris Brown and Josh Reid with you. We're back in 554 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: a moment here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. 555 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, Welcome back One Bill's Live. 556 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Josh Reid in for Steve Tasker, who's golfing 557 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: at the Jim Kelly Golf Tournament today, So good luck 558 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: Steve hit him straight. He might be done by now, 559 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: I got unless he had a late tea time. It 560 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: is packed there. I know you've covered that before, and 561 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: it is front to back like they are just cramming 562 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: shoehorning guys in for start times because they have so 563 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: many participants, which is great because it's all for a 564 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: good cause, of course, but they're full. Yeah, every year. 565 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: They sell out every single year and like you said, 566 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: they've got several foursomes that go off of every hole. 567 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: They it's a like you said, great cause. And they 568 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: get some big names, you know. Obviously Jim's got some 569 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: guys that come into town. He knows a few people. Yeah, yeah, 570 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: he is one of those people, so you can yeah 571 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: he Uh, everybody wants to be a part of it, 572 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's a good stuff. We failed to mention 573 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: this at the top of the show in case you 574 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: missed it. Yesterday, the Bills did release four players on 575 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: the heels of the first preseason game, offensive lineman Derek 576 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: Kurstadter and Jordan Simmons, cornerback Elijah Griffin, and undrafted rookie 577 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: tight end Jalen Widermeyer. So those four players off the 578 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: roster bring them to eighty six. They have to be 579 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: down to eighty five by later this week, actually by tomorrow, 580 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: the sixteenth, I think is four pm tomorrow, they have 581 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: to be down to eighty five players and then there's 582 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: another cup to eighty and then the big one down 583 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: to fifty three. So they got to make one more 584 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: move by tomorrow at four. The Griffin move it sticks 585 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: out to me maybe more than the other one and 586 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: the others, well, yeah, because it's a quicker back and 587 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: it makes me go and this may be reading between 588 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: the lines way too much, but it makes me go, 589 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: all right, one fewer cornerbacks. Tredavious we've seen really starting 590 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: to ramp up, and you know, we keep hearing that 591 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: he's trending in the right direction, and it makes me go, okay, 592 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, if you're willing to let that position get 593 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: a little thinner and lose one more body, I don't know. 594 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: To me, like I said, I might be reading between 595 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: the lines a little bit, but it's we have to 596 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: do a lot of that. Well yeah, right, yeah, but 597 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't know it. There's a little bit of optimism 598 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: to take away from it. I'm gonna take take it away, Okay, 599 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: I like turning a net. Well, it's a negative for 600 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: Elijah Griffin on but could be a potential positive for 601 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 1: the team. If you're a to B two C, if 602 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: you're a plus B, equ'll see, yeah, a lot of 603 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: people will be happy. So we'll have to see. Well, 604 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: we'll put that on the whiteboard and give you full 605 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: credit for that, and if, in fact then that turns 606 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: out to be the case. But let's go to the 607 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 1: phones at eight oh three oh five fifty one eight 608 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty and there's an open 609 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: line for you there. But we are going to lead 610 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: off here with Jeff and Leroy. What do you got 611 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: for us? Jeff, you're on one bills live, Jeff, are 612 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: you there? All? This is Jeff, Jeff and Buffalo. Oh okay, 613 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: well they had you from Leroy, but we'll make it 614 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: from Buffalo anyway. Sorry, okay, all right? Sor right? U 615 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: Hi guys, how you doing? Um um calling? I'm I 616 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: want to talk about this guy Specter. There are two 617 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 1: guys actually, this guy Specter who's a linebacker. Yep, uh 618 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: he came out of Clemson. I don't remember his first name. 619 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: But this guy was all over the field. I mean, 620 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, he was in the backfield making plays. He 621 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: was thirty yards downfield making plays. Uh you know his 622 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: name was I size his name on jersey, all around 623 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: the ball, you know, the entire time he was in 624 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: I was wondering if there's been any scuttle on this guy. Also, 625 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: the other person I wanted to talk about. He's not 626 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: a newcomer, but Isaiah Hodgins. Uh, this guy is, I 627 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: don't know, he's got a lot of Andre Read in him. Um, 628 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, he can take a licking and uh, and 629 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: he catches everything. He's got great hands. I'm not sure 630 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: why he hasn't uh you know, caught on already, let alone. 631 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm hoping he catches on this year. So yeah, 632 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: I just wondering what you guys thought about. Uh those 633 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: are those are two good picks. As a matter of fact, 634 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: Josh and I were just talking about bail in spector 635 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: in the break U because he was everywhere on the 636 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: field making plays left and right. But I think it 637 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: goes back to something Steve and I were talking about. Josh, 638 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: and I'm sure we're not alone in this but almost 639 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: the entire draft class has flashed at some point or 640 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: another through the course of the spring and training camp, 641 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: and we saw it again in this preseason game. Yeah, 642 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean may have done it again. I mean he 643 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: just seems to hit on a I mean, he hits 644 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: way more than he misses on these draft picks. And 645 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: to the caller's point, Baal Inspector was all over the 646 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: football field and I were, like you said, we were 647 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: talking about on the break and I think it was 648 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: Micah Hyde at the end of the last week were asked, 649 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: we're talking to him kind of asking him was one 650 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: of the veterans that kind of asking him about what 651 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: do you tell these young guys? What do you tell 652 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: the rookies when they're getting ready for their first preseason game? 653 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: He said, you know, look, we basically tell him, whatever 654 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: you do, just do at full speed. You know, if 655 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: you kind of aren't sure about your assignment, who cares 656 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: do at full speed? This is how you learn. This 657 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: is what it's about. And Bail Inspector, I don't know 658 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: that he was one hundred percent sure what he was 659 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: doing all the time out there, but he was all 660 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: over the place, but pretty good. He played. He played 661 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: like his hair was on fire. And at this stage 662 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: of your career, when you're kind of learning on the fly, 663 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: it have at a young guy, you know what I mean, 664 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: game high ten tackles. Here's the thing for me that 665 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: sticks out the most when you could put a draft 666 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: class like this together, especially where the Bills are now 667 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: in their roster build, they're getting to a point where 668 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: I think all of us see they're not going to 669 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: be able to pay everybody a lucrative second contract. They're 670 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: gonna be halves and they're gonna be have not. You 671 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: just can't pay everybody. You can't do it. Even with 672 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: all the ways around the salary cap. You got too 673 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: many high priced guys. You can't keep them all. So 674 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: it's incumbent upon your personnel department to replenish with quote 675 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: unquote cheap labor, namely draft choices on rookie contracts. If 676 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: you look at the linebacker position alone, you've got Tremaine 677 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: Edmonds in his fifth year option year. Is he going 678 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: to be back next year? We don't know. Is there 679 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: enough money for him? At Oliver Dawson Knox And you 680 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: know I mean fill in the blank. I mean you've 681 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: got four or five guys coming up on second contracts 682 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: here gave Davis two years away that you got to 683 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: account for. Are we keeping? Are we not keeping? You've 684 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: got to have young guys in the pipeline behind them, 685 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: and the bills have that in a lot of places. 686 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: Bale inspector, it's funny. We're talking to our producer Ja 687 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: before the show. He says, with the hair hanging out 688 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: of the back of the helm on the way he runs, 689 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: he reminds me of A J. Klein a little bit. 690 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: And AJ Klein was a guy that was here but 691 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: had to get released because he cost too much money 692 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: on the cap when they had to pay people elsewhere. 693 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: How do you replace an AJ Klein not with another 694 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: veteran free agent. You got to replace him with a 695 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: young player. Balan Spector could be like one of those 696 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: back or Terrell Bernard. They could both be on the roster, 697 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: but one of them is probably going to serve that 698 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: AJ Klein role. You know, I know, Tyrell Dotson's here 699 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: in the mix too, and he's still on his rookie contract. 700 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: But that's just an example of how Brandon, being in 701 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: his personnel department replenish the roster with younger players, cheap labor, 702 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: and it keeps the roster talented and deep, even though 703 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: it's not costing your fortune. Yeah, I mean, you go back, 704 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to go back back very far. 705 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: When this team was struggling and the franchise was struggling, 706 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 1: you didn't really have to worry about this situation because 707 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: the draft picks a lot of times didn't pan out, 708 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: so that when they would get to that second contract, 709 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't really a thing. It wasn't a big deal. 710 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: Now you've got guys like Josh Allen, you have a 711 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback wall. Those guys make a ton of money. 712 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: That's fine. You mentioned at Oliver's another guy defensive tackles, 713 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: defensive tackles that can get to the quarterback. And I 714 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: think there's a potential that maybe he has a career 715 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: year this season. It's gonna cost you some money. That 716 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer's out there. You know, he wants more money. 717 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: He wants to wants to stay, but wants more money. 718 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: And I mean, yeah, so you need these bail inspects 719 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: to your point to pan out, because that's how you 720 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: kind of cost effective right there, in those positions, and 721 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: I think we see it. I think we see the 722 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: way they try to build the running back room too. 723 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, back to back draft picks. And 724 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, most people will tell you, oh, you can 725 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: get a running back anywhere, and in most cases, yes, 726 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: history recent history in the draft have proven that to 727 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: be true. But I'm amazed at the way the Bills 728 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: are able to do that at other positions as well. 729 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: And this year's draft class, I think is a testament 730 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: to that very point. Let's go back to the phones 731 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: and we go to Gary on a SALEA. Yeah Forris Gary, 732 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: you're on one Bill's lives. Hey, guys, oh y'all do good? 733 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: I have five players I really liked five. Okay more, 734 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say five. The other caller talking about 735 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: Spector and the other hoss, so I'm gonna say Trail 736 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: Fernaro linebacker. Yeah, wow, you were. You were talking about 737 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: him for us quite a bit. I was in they'll 738 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: show pretty much hot times a week. He's good, he 739 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: really fast. I like him sideline the sideline, and I 740 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: like that Christian Benford the quarter they picked for the 741 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,959 Speaker 1: phone bull and took it back. He shouted, you played 742 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: the slot. Pretty good. I'm not liking the course. My 743 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: favorite was Shakir. That guy's ready now to play. Hee. 744 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: He looked smooth, he looked ready, he's prol ready. Yeah, 745 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: you can just tell when they have that look about him. Um, 746 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: and thanks for the call, Gary, We appreciate it. Um. 747 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: I was waiting because I was waiting for somebody to 748 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: name Bernard named Shakier because they stood out to me too. 749 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: Benford and again you're talking about three trap choices. Benford 750 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: is a fine coming from an FCS level with what 751 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: looks to be as close to a pro ready body 752 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: as possible. Six one. I mean he's I mean he's 753 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: not an Adonis, but he's put together. He's got a 754 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: pro style body, he's got some length to him. And 755 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: then Bernard couldn't be more different physically than Tremaine Edmonds 756 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: lining up behind him. But the instincts that he has 757 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: to know where the ball's going, get there and make 758 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: a play. It's impressive. And Steve and I have talked 759 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: about it a lot. As you heard the caller said, 760 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: I know you guys talk about him, what we have 761 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 1: talked about him a lot in training camp and people say, well, 762 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: is he too small to play middle linebacker. I would 763 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: say if you did not have defensive tackles de Kwon 764 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: Jones and Jordan Phillips and Tim Settle, it might be 765 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: a problem. I don't see guards climbing to the second 766 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: level and coming within a hair's breath of him. So 767 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: that means Terrell Bernard's gonna be able to run and 768 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: hit because he's gonna be clean and make plays for you. 769 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: He's not gonna get caught up in the trash because 770 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: there'll be no trash for him to worry about with 771 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: those big those big hosses up there tying people up. Yeah, 772 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: and then he could just play on instincts, you know, 773 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, find the ball, yeah, running hit, yeah, running 774 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: hit yeah. You know, we kind of he mentioned Khalil Shakir. 775 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: He had a really nice game. He had a really 776 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: strong start to training camp, and then he kind of 777 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: got you know, not that he not that he struggled 778 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: at the end of training camp, but it kind of 779 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: maybe took a little backseat too. We saw Mackenzie. He 780 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 1: had a great training camp all the way through. Crowder 781 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,919 Speaker 1: came back started working in with with the first team 782 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: a little bit there, and I felt like Shakir just 783 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: kind of was there that didn't flash as much as 784 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: the man. I watched him, and he looks so good 785 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: in the preseason game. I mean, he was making catches. 786 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: You can tell that this is the type of guy. 787 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: Even talking to him after the preseason game. The moment's 788 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: probably never gonna be too big for he just doesn't. 789 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: He seems like when he's on a football field, he 790 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: feels like he belongs. Quite frankly, he looked like he belonged. Yeah, 791 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean Shakier to me, I think his role is 792 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: going to be what Gabe Davis's role was as a rookie. 793 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: I agree, A hundred in a backup all three spots 794 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 1: essentially be like the team's fourth wide out. Maybe. I 795 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: mean the Crowder Mackenzie thing is a little muddled right 796 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: now as to how that's gonna all shake out. Is 797 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: it a shared role, is it definitively one guy. We'll 798 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: have to wait and see. But I could see Shakier 799 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: kind of being what Gabe Davis was two years ago 800 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: as a rookie. I thought I could see him in 801 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: a similar type role. Because they're already lining him up everywhere. 802 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: We have to take a break when we come back, 803 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: More of your phone calls, more of your comments here 804 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live, Presented by Collot of health H's 805 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio, Kids Day returns to high Mark Stadium 806 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: as the Bills host the Broncos for their preseason matchup 807 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: on August twentieth. Presented by Fisher Price, The Fisher Price 808 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: Junior Tailgate kicks off at nine am. Lot six bigger 809 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: than ever, featuring a power wheels track, giant inflatables, a 810 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: real fire truck, games, and more. 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Sound Yeah, it's crazy to think that 821 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: I took him to My wife took him to like 822 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: five or six kids days and now he's at college 823 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 1: with Bill's rest assured Bills fans. Bill's mafia is well 824 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 1: represented at Uga. He's got his Bills flag on his wall, 825 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 1: he's got his picture with Josh Allen on his desk, 826 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: and we're good. And his roommate of all things is 827 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: from Rochester. Oh wow, he goes to Georgia. Yeah, it's 828 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: roommates from Rogers also a Bills fans, so they'll be 829 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: representing down there for sure. And apparently talking to a 830 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 1: couple of other people, there's a lot of Bills fans 831 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: and Athens like go figure. I mean, I don't know 832 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 1: if that's people hopping on the bandwagon, because it's gotta 833 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: be a little of that. I mean, I think that 834 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: all starts with the quarterback. Once you have a popular quarterback, 835 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: people who and in that area there's not a real 836 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: professional team. And yeah, Athens, Georgia, I know the Falcons, 837 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, are kind of the Theysted, but they've been rough, 838 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: so you know this, We've talked about it a little bit. 839 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 1: The Bills are the cool team right now and it's 840 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: and their fan base is just as cool. Exactly. See 841 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: why people would be like, oh, I want to They 842 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: have so much national momentum. I mean, you turn on 843 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: Kyle Brant and all these national shows. They just rave 844 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: about seventeen and Bills Mafia. And if you're if you're 845 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: a fan of the NFL but you don't really have 846 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: a team, it's an easy team to go. You know what, 847 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: that's my team. Now, that's gonna be my team. It's infectious. 848 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: It is no question about it. Eight oh three, five fifty. 849 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick call before we got to get 850 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 1: to the break. Here, We're gonna go to Bob and Hamburg. 851 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: As we're asking you who of the Bills newcomers left 852 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 1: a good first impression on you? Bob, what do you 853 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Hey, guys, 854 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 1: how you doing. I mean, there's so many good things 855 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: that hampering the game that we witnessed on on Saturday. 856 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: The biggest thing is just what the whole hierarchy of 857 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: the Bills are doing and how they draft and how 858 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: they pick talent. And you got to think that right now, 859 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: Brandon Dean is on top of the kingdom of being 860 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 1: able to pay talent and bringing the right players. And 861 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: I guess the sad part of it is, but it's 862 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: really good problem to have. Is a lot of these players, 863 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: unfortunately aren't going to make the team just from a 864 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: number standpoint and be somewhere else. But it's just incredible 865 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 1: what they're doing. And if you want to scarier ride 866 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: than West Virginia, go to STS Park in Denver at 867 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: the Rocky bount National Parks. The defense starts at ten 868 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: thousand feet much scary. Yeah, I'm not doing anything like 869 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: those ice road truckers or West Virginia is more than 870 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 1: enough of the challenge for me. So yeah, you could 871 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: take Denver and keep it because I'm not going out 872 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: that way at any point in time, especially on four wheels. 873 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe if I do the rv TH when 874 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: I'm retired, you know, it'd be like all those other 875 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: old people and do that stuff. But yeah, no, I 876 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 1: am not going on the side of a mountain ledge 877 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: in a car on purpose. Yeah, that is not an 878 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: intentional move on my part at all. No way, Jose, 879 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: All right, we gotta take a break here. We'll be 880 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 1: happy to take more of your phone calls a little 881 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: bit later on who left a good first impression on you? 882 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: Of the Bill's newcomers from the Bills preseason opener. But 883 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: we have to take a break now so we on 884 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: the other side can talk to the senior producer from 885 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 1: NFL Films making his triumphant return for another season with 886 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: us here on one Bills Live. It is Greg cous 887 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: South coming up next. Stay tuned at a Steve Tasker 888 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 1: who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique. 889 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for see 890 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the strated beer 891 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 1: of normalcy here, all right, here we are our number 892 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: two on a Monday. Chris Brown, Josh read with you 893 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: as Steve is hitting the links at the Jim Kelly 894 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: Golf Tournament today. I'll be back tomorrow and please to 895 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 1: be joined now for yet another season. The senior producer 896 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 1: from NFL Films, Greg co Sell, joining us here on 897 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: the show. He's diving headlong into preseason action. And man, 898 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anything you'd rather do? How 899 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: you doing? Greg? I even put on a college today. 900 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 1: I know I see that day. You know it's gonna 901 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: ask you if you have like a lawn fate to 902 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: go do after or something he did. This has had 903 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 1: to get you. We'll woke up this morning said I'm 904 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: gonna be with Chris. I've already you know, look semi, 905 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: he said, And it as decent as I can be. 906 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: That that's a tough ask, you know, Yeah, we appreciate 907 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: it very much. I know you looked at the tape 908 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: from the game. Bill's Colts and Josh and I have 909 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: been talking the whole first hour about you know, who 910 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: made a good first impression among the newcomers. And it 911 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: is a long list when you think about it, but 912 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: let's let's start with the two rookie corners, Kyer Elam 913 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: and Christian Benford, who, as we were telling you before 914 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: he came on the air, even coach McDermott liked their performance. 915 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,280 Speaker 1: And getting getting coach to pump the tires of rookies 916 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: is not something you often hear around here. No. I 917 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: know Sean, so I know that I know his whole routine. 918 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: So but you know I watched well, obviously they played 919 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 1: the entire first half. I watched every snap because with 920 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: corners you can't just watch their their plays. You have 921 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: to watch every snap because you have to see what 922 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: they're asked to do, how they do it. When the 923 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: ball's not thrown. You have to see how they react 924 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: to the run game, because there are certainly times where 925 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,879 Speaker 1: they are primary run defenders. As there was a time 926 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 1: when Bedford made a great play. I think it was 927 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: on third and one. He was a primary run defender 928 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 1: based on the offensive formation, and I guess what really 929 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 1: stood out to me was how much press man that 930 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 1: they played. That was probably done intentionally. We knew that. 931 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 1: We knew that about Elam guys, because that was his 932 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: calling card at Florida. He was a boundary corner in 933 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: college and he played a ton of press man. We 934 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: know he's got the size, we know he's got the length, 935 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: he's got great speed, he's physical. I mean I thought 936 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 1: his physicality disrupting releases off the line of scrimmage, that 937 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: to me stood out in college, and it stood out 938 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,919 Speaker 1: watching the game against the Colts. He had that really 939 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: good play, but I think it was at the end 940 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: of the first possession. Chris correct me if I'm wrong. 941 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: The third and three was at the one at the 942 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,760 Speaker 1: end of the first possession where he physically disrupted Pierce's 943 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,359 Speaker 1: release off the line of scrimmage and then to play 944 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: on the ball on the slant route that was textbook 945 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 1: press man coverage. Yeah, it's sticking with Elam. You know. 946 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 1: One of the things that has stood out even in 947 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 1: training camp was how competitive this guy is. I mean 948 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,280 Speaker 1: he he likes to go toe to toe with Digs 949 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: and Gabe Davis and guess what those guys are gonna 950 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: make you better. There was a play and I think 951 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: it was that one that we just saw that's playing here. 952 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: You know on the screen there was a there was 953 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,320 Speaker 1: a crossing route and it was third and long and 954 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 1: the receiver ran just three yards down the field, came across. 955 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 1: They were able to complete the pass just for three yards. 956 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: It's still set up third and long and Elam was 957 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 1: up set afterwards, smack the ground that even that he 958 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: even allowed the catch. Meanwhile, you're going take it easy. 959 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 1: It's fourth and seven. Now, this is a good this 960 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 1: is a good spot to be in. I mean, this 961 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: kid's competitive juices are through the roof. No. And I 962 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: remember speaking to someone and I can't remember. Oh, actually 963 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,240 Speaker 1: it's a coach with the Eagles who was at Florida, 964 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 1: and he said he told me that he's a great 965 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: kid and super competitive. So yeah, I don't know if 966 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 1: you guys have gotten a chance to talk with him 967 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: at all. Obviously I'm not there, so I haven't. But 968 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, the competitiveness and just that attitude is so 969 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: critical at corner. You are going to get beat in 970 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 1: this league. Look, he's gonna get beat worse. He'll get 971 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: beat for touchdowns. That's just the way the NFL is. 972 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 1: But you want someone who responds that way and always 973 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: thinks that he's the reason that he can get better 974 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: at what he does. But but I just love his physicality. 975 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: I love his length. He's got quickness too. He dry, 976 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: he plants and drives. I think you know, Chris, we 977 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: talked about this before the draft, you know, before we 978 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: knew that the Bills were going to draft him, and 979 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: I had mentioned that I thought he was one of 980 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: the best corner prospects in the draft. Yeah, and Bills 981 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: fans are certainly hope he lives up to that. From 982 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 1: one member of the draft last to another, Khalil Shakier 983 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: has impressed early, impressed in the middle of camp, and 984 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: impressed at the end. He impressed in the preseason opener 985 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 1: as well, to no one's surprise. Who's been out of 986 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: camp even just a couple of times he stands out 987 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,760 Speaker 1: Greg and in this game he did when the twos 988 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: were going against the Colts ones, even on the first drive. Well, 989 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 1: you know another guy, if you may recall Chris. I 990 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 1: loved his tape coming out, and I thought he had 991 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: inside outside versatility, even though he played the majority of 992 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 1: the majority of his targets at Boise last year came 993 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,240 Speaker 1: out of the slot. But I thought he had inside 994 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,800 Speaker 1: outside versatility. I thought he was a pretty refined and 995 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,399 Speaker 1: detailed route runner. I thought he had separation quickness. He's 996 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 1: got really good body control and hands, which we saw 997 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: in this preseason game. He went up and got the 998 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: ball a couple of times, catches the ball with his 999 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: hands exceptionally well, and I'm not surprised at all. You know, again, 1000 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to work out their 1001 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: their wide receiver group. We know obviously they've got Digs, 1002 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 1: one of the best in the league. They've got Davis 1003 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,720 Speaker 1: who could become an emerging star. They obviously signed Crowder, 1004 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 1: who seemingly is the slot receiver. So we don't know 1005 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: how all this will play out. But I think Shakier 1006 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 1: is just going to be one of those players that 1007 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: you just keep watching him every day and say, you 1008 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 1: know what, we have to find snaps for this guy. 1009 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: He deserves some snaps somewhere along the line. The Bills 1010 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: in the offseason retold up front a little bit on 1011 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: the defensive line, in particular defensive tackle. But they bring 1012 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 1: in de Kuan Jones. But they also bring in Tim Settle, 1013 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what he made. He didn't play 1014 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,839 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps, but he made some noise when 1015 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 1: he was on the field. Well, Josh, he was really disruptive. 1016 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean the first play of the game, it started, 1017 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: he was a one technique, so he lined up just 1018 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 1: shaded from the offensive center and he just shoved the center, Kelly, 1019 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 1: the first team center here. A lot of people think 1020 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: Kelly is one of the better centers in the league. 1021 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 1: He showed hand strength to control and displace him and 1022 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 1: then react laterally, and he tackled Hines for a one 1023 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: yard game. And I thought he had some other dominant 1024 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 1: snaps versus Kelly. He controlled him a number of times. 1025 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 1: And then on the fourth and four play that the 1026 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: Bedford play. We didn't talk about this specific play with 1027 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: Bedford when he had a great press man play himself 1028 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: on the Pittman slant route on fourth and four. I'm 1029 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,720 Speaker 1: sure you guys remember that. But Settle had an outstanding 1030 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: bull rush and that was against Quintin Nelson. I'm sure 1031 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 1: you remember that part of it. So he was, like 1032 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: I said, he only played eleven snaps, but he had 1033 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 1: three or four just absolutely dominant plays. And I remember 1034 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: speaking to people in Washington and they thought he was 1035 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,880 Speaker 1: going to be a really, really good player. And sometimes 1036 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Washington has a really good starting tackle group, 1037 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 1: so it didn't work out there for him. But this 1038 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: is a really good pickup for the Bills and he'll 1039 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: be a meaningful part of that rotation. This is a 1040 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: very deep D line, as you guys know. Yeah, and 1041 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: when you can have a guy like that that gets 1042 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: consistent penetration, particularly in the run front, maybe just explain 1043 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 1: to our listeners, Greg how much that helps the guys 1044 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: that have to go run and hit Because you're forcing 1045 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: a running back to declare a running lane because you've 1046 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: blown the play up in the backfield, right, It almost 1047 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 1: makes you force the running back to make the decision 1048 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 1: sooner than maybe he would like to, which then gives 1049 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 1: your linebackers a read that much quicker correct more often 1050 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: than not. Yeah, I mean, you always want the interior 1051 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: of your D line. Obviously on an inside type run, 1052 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, we're not talking about a pitch outside costs, 1053 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: but on any kind of sort of inside run, whether 1054 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 1: it be zone, whether it be gap scheme, you would 1055 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 1: love to penetrate so that the back has to declare 1056 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 1: early because if the back can kind of just let's say, 1057 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 1: hug double teams, that's the term they use, where he 1058 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 1: can just press the hole and hug double teams, then 1059 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: the second level defenders Chris as you suggested, then they're 1060 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 1: kind of stuck. Then they become reactive players, and that's 1061 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 1: not what you want. You want those D tackles to 1062 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: control the line of scrimmage. Ideally push it back. They 1063 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 1: don't have to push it back three yards, you can 1064 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 1: push it back a half yard a yard, and you 1065 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 1: still force the back then to have to react, and 1066 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: he becomes the reactive player. And then your second level defenders, 1067 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, the Milano's, the Edmonds, then they can be 1068 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: proactive and they can attack, and that's ultimately what you want. 1069 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 1: You know, let's stay up front there talking about that 1070 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 1: Bill's defensive line. Boogie Basham's rookie year up and down, 1071 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 1: probably a little more down than up. And he even 1072 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 1: admitted coming into this season that he prepared differently, and 1073 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: by prepared differently, he almost led us to believe that 1074 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 1: he prepared. You know what I mean. I think he's 1075 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 1: a lot more ready going into year two for what 1076 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 1: it takes to play at a high level in the NFL. 1077 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 1: And he had he had some nice play plays in 1078 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: that first preseason game. Yeah, he sure did. I mean 1079 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: obviously hadn't sack fumble where he beat the right tackle 1080 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: Murray off the edge. You know, that's something you'd really 1081 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 1: like to see from him, because you know, when he 1082 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: came out of Wake Forest, I did not necessarily think 1083 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: he was a true edge rusher. In fact, I thought, 1084 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's best if he gets up to two eighty 1085 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: five and moves inside. And you guys know that last 1086 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 1: year he played snaps both outside and inside. And we'll 1087 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 1: see how this d line rotation shakes out. Obviously, as 1088 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 1: we said, there's going to be a lot of depth, 1089 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 1: but he really did show some juice off the edge. 1090 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 1: And when I really liked about this play that we're 1091 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 1: looking at right now is I the way he was 1092 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 1: able to bend a little bit because he's not a 1093 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: true bender. He's not really flexible the way you think 1094 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 1: of edge rushers. But I thought he showed some bend 1095 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: there once he ran the arc and got past the 1096 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: right tackle. So that's something. Maybe, hey, Josh, maybe what 1097 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 1: you're talking about. Maybe he worked on his body, you know, 1098 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: a certain way in the off season, because like I said, 1099 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, you didn't see him coming out of Wake 1100 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: as a flexible player. But he's looking for snaps. I mean, 1101 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, this is the time when he needs to 1102 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 1: get snaps and he needs to be productive within the 1103 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: context of that rotation. However, a number of snaps he gets. Yeah, 1104 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: And I mean he even said, I mean he has 1105 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 1: re reshaped his body composition this off season. I mean 1106 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 1: he told us he played anywhere between two sixty eight 1107 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 1: and two seventy two last year, and this year he's 1108 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 1: down to like two fifty eight. He's somewhere between two 1109 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 1: fifty five and two fifty eight. And even his teammates 1110 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: have said his burst off the line is like night 1111 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 1: and day compared to last year. And you saw his 1112 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: burst on that play, you saw it, right, there, and 1113 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 1: that's critical for him. You know, whether he's inside or outside, 1114 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. You want to be the first one 1115 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,479 Speaker 1: to react when you're rushing the quarterback. Let's talk about 1116 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 1: the guy that's on the other end of that play. 1117 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 1: Because Terrell Bernard's another member of the draft class who 1118 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 1: has flashed in camp. Looks incredibly instinctive. And I know 1119 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: there are Bills fans out there that worry about his size. 1120 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 1: But maybe after you kind of break down Terrell Bernard, 1121 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 1: maybe explain Greg how if you have big interior defenders 1122 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 1: like Jordan Phillips, Tim Settle and de Quan Jones, they 1123 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: can keep an undersized linebacker clean, enabling him to make plays. Yeah, 1124 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,959 Speaker 1: and when it comes down to Chris for smaller guys, 1125 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: and by the way, he does look smaller, you know 1126 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,480 Speaker 1: on tape. And I knew that when I watched his tape, 1127 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 1: even though I really liked what I saw in college. 1128 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Is then it becomes key and diagnose and angles because 1129 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 1: what you don't want is you don't want to allow 1130 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 1: client ming offensive linemen to get up on you square. 1131 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: That's what you can have happened because he's not big 1132 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 1: enough to really play off that even specter. He showed 1133 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 1: that as well in this game. He's not a really 1134 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 1: big guy either. He's built differently than Bernard, and Bernard's 1135 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 1: a better pure athlete. But you can't allow those guys 1136 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 1: to get into you square. So you have to be 1137 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 1: able to key diagnose and then win with angles, and 1138 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 1: I think Bernard will be able to do that. I 1139 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: thought he had some good snaps in this game and 1140 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: some tough snaps in this game. But you know, I 1141 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: always you know, people always think first preseason, even when 1142 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: guys are rookie's playing through the first part of the 1143 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 1: regular season, you kind of expect young players to have 1144 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 1: ups and downs. This is a whole new deal. These 1145 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 1: are just better players they're playing against and they have 1146 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: to learn. But I think that's what Bernard's game is. 1147 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 1: You know, his game is built on quickness, reaction time, 1148 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 1: and speed. One of the players who Bills fans are 1149 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: familiar with because he's been here a couple of years now, 1150 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 1: and UB fans are familiar with his cam lewis a 1151 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 1: guy that you know, it tends to stick around on 1152 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 1: the roster here because he can do a little bit 1153 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 1: on the outside, a little bit on the inside. Made 1154 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 1: made a few plays in that preseason open or what 1155 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 1: did you see when you watched cam Yeah, I mean 1156 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 1: he played a lot of press man as well. That 1157 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 1: stood out. He had that strong play on fourth and 1158 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 1: fourth early in the second quarter where it was strong 1159 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: man coverage on the Campbell out route and it wasn't 1160 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 1: a bad throw by me. I think Matt Ryan might 1161 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 1: have been still playing at that point. If I'm or 1162 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 1: it was false, it might have been falsum, but he 1163 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 1: had really good coverage on the out route by Campbell. 1164 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: But you know, he again he played some press man. 1165 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 1: He got involved in the run game a little bit. Um. 1166 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: You know. That's what stood out to me too, is 1167 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 1: the corners got involved in the run game. And you know, 1168 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 1: I think corners for the most part, for the most part, 1169 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,440 Speaker 1: are not drafted because of their ability to play the run, 1170 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 1: but you'd obviously like that to be part of what 1171 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 1: they do. And I thought that all three corners because 1172 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 1: I think they all played pretty much the entire first half. 1173 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: I know Bedford and Elam did. I think Am I corrected. 1174 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 1: Lewis also played the entire first half. I think he did, 1175 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 1: yeah pretty much. Yeah, but all these guys showed some 1176 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 1: physicality and toughness and competitiveness playing the run, and I 1177 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: would bet that that is discussed by Sean and Leslie 1178 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,520 Speaker 1: and all the position coaches. My guess is that that's 1179 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,680 Speaker 1: something that's important to them. Jaquan Johnson again flashes with 1180 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,959 Speaker 1: a big play, comes up with an interception. He talked 1181 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 1: about the play after the game, saying he was running 1182 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 1: a reverse rotation, but I mean, he had a beat 1183 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: on that play. Even if the pass was accurate, it 1184 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 1: wasn't and he's in the right spot to make the 1185 01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: I NT. Now, it's always nice when the quarterback overthrows 1186 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 1: the ball right to you that that's always good for 1187 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 1: a person. That's always good for a post safety because 1188 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: then they look really really good. But you're right, he 1189 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: started moving the other way in the rotation and then 1190 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 1: he just saw it all play out in front of him. 1191 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 1: You know this kid, I remember watching him in college. 1192 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 1: I think it was Miami correct. He's from the U, 1193 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: I believe, And I thought he was a really smart, savvy, 1194 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 1: aware player in college. He's just not very big, And 1195 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 1: I thought that because of that, and because he's not 1196 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 1: purely explosive, like when you think of a post safety. 1197 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 1: You know, you think of a guy who needs to 1198 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,400 Speaker 1: have great range and the ability to cover a lot 1199 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 1: of ground. He's not quite that guy. But I thought 1200 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: he was a really good player, and I'm not surprised 1201 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 1: he's sticking around. My guess is he's probably a pretty 1202 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,520 Speaker 1: good special teams player, truth to be told, I don't 1203 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 1: study that, so I don't know. But you know, he's 1204 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,960 Speaker 1: just one of those guys that's aware, that's savvy. I 1205 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: think he sees it well because when you play in 1206 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 1: the back end, you've got to see the whole picture. 1207 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 1: We already talked about Khalil Shakir. Let's let's talk about 1208 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 1: one other wide receiver who it made some made a 1209 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 1: little bit of waves toward the end of training camp, 1210 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins, and then all of a sudden, man did 1211 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 1: he looked good in particular late in the game in 1212 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 1: that first preseason game, finished with nine catches seventy seven yards. 1213 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 1: The Bills have a deep and talented wide receiver room. 1214 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 1: I don't know where he fits into that, but he's 1215 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 1: making a strong push late to make this fifty three 1216 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 1: man roster. Yeah. Well, Josh, he's a certain kind of receiver. 1217 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: He's a big kid, doesn't run great. Did have the 1218 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 1: nice catch on the fete for twenty seven yards where 1219 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 1: he had the clean release. He did get a step 1220 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 1: on top of the corner. But he's a big kid. 1221 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 1: You know. His ability to separate and win was always 1222 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 1: a question even coming out of Oregon State. You know, 1223 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 1: he put up big numbers his last year there. So 1224 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,440 Speaker 1: the question with him is where does he fit for 1225 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 1: this team? You know, we know who the tie three 1226 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 1: will be. I think Shakier is gonna he could well 1227 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 1: be four. I don't know, you know, I don't know 1228 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 1: who else is there and how they see it. So 1229 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 1: the question is who's five and how do they see five? 1230 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 1: Or you know, how do they see four and five? Really? 1231 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 1: What kind of receivers are they looking for? Because Hodgens 1232 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 1: is not going to be a vertical threat. He's not 1233 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,760 Speaker 1: an explosive guy. He's kind of a physical short to 1234 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 1: short intermediate receiver that can catch the ball, has really 1235 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,640 Speaker 1: strong hands, catches everything. You know, how do you guys 1236 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 1: see it that? Does that fit what you think they 1237 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 1: might want? And you know, down at the bottom of 1238 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 1: the receiving group, I think it's gonna be tough for him. 1239 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 1: To make it only because of Isaiah McKenzie's emergence on 1240 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. So I mean, Isaiah McKenzie, 1241 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 1: most people would say, is running as the third and 1242 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:55,120 Speaker 1: the primary slot, and Crowder's voting him for playing time inside. 1243 01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,480 Speaker 1: And I know you remember that Hodgens was primarily a 1244 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,600 Speaker 1: slot guy in college at least at the end of 1245 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:05,760 Speaker 1: his career, and there's really no room for him inside 1246 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 1: because of the presence of Crowder mackenzie. And then you 1247 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 1: can even argue Shakir I think Shakier is your four 1248 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 1: or your five, depending on where they're gonna put Crowder 1249 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,880 Speaker 1: and how often. And so now one of those guys 1250 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,559 Speaker 1: is the five. So now you have Jake Kumero, who 1251 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 1: is a great special teams player and is a four. 1252 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 1: I think he's a four team special team or if 1253 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,040 Speaker 1: I remember right. So now it's like, well, where does 1254 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,680 Speaker 1: Hodgens fit there? I don't know, it's it's a conundrum. 1255 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,040 Speaker 1: And I know Greg that you guys look at this 1256 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,720 Speaker 1: when you study rosters and stuff. I know there were 1257 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 1: a handful of teams that carried seven receivers last year 1258 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,759 Speaker 1: on their active roster. I don't know if the Bills 1259 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,760 Speaker 1: push it that far. Maybe they do, and if they do, 1260 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,600 Speaker 1: I think he's got a great chance to make it. 1261 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,200 Speaker 1: If they stick with six, it still might be tough. 1262 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,000 Speaker 1: He may have to do even more than he did 1263 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 1: on last Saturday to really kind of makes some Hey, 1264 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,679 Speaker 1: you make a great point about Kumaro because, as I said, 1265 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't study special teams, but he is a great 1266 01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:09,679 Speaker 1: special teams player, as you said, and he's also played snaps. 1267 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the thing is is you can 1268 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 1: put him out there as a receiver. I remember he 1269 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,639 Speaker 1: caught a touchdown pass I think it was two years 1270 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: ago against Denver on his seam ball, you know. I 1271 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 1: mean he's been out there making catches, and so Josh 1272 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,240 Speaker 1: knows him, you know. I mean it's you know, Hodgens 1273 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 1: is in a little different situation. And I'd forgotten about 1274 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 1: McKenzie when I was talking about the receivers because mackenzie 1275 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 1: is he's a weapon, you know. So now you're dealing 1276 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 1: with four receivers that are pretty much I think gonna 1277 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 1: make it for sure. I'm counting Crowder. I assume he'd 1278 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 1: make the team, you know, And then I just because 1279 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm such a big fan of shakier. I would think 1280 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,360 Speaker 1: he'd be number five and Kumarro, like you said, he'll stick. 1281 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,960 Speaker 1: So now you're dealing with six. So it's gonna be 1282 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 1: hard for Hodgens. Yeah. I just I wonder if we're 1283 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,240 Speaker 1: seeing a trend there maybe more teams that are throwing 1284 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,000 Speaker 1: it all over the yard, maybe keep a seventh, But 1285 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to happen, especially with 1286 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,519 Speaker 1: the larger practice squad rules still in effect. You know 1287 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 1: you can carry sixteen people. You got a young player, 1288 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 1: just put him on the practice squad and if you 1289 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 1: need him, he's there for you unless he gets poached 1290 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 1: by somebody else and he's unprotected. But we'll have to see. 1291 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 1: It's one of the more difficult decisions that this coaching 1292 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 1: staff is gonna have to make when it comes to 1293 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,839 Speaker 1: roster cutdown time. Greg, thanks for the time. As always, 1294 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,200 Speaker 1: we look forward to talking to you again this season, 1295 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: so we'll catch up either real soon. Thanks, guys, appreciate it, 1296 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,680 Speaker 1: looking forward to it all right. That's senior producer from 1297 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,280 Speaker 1: NFL Films, Greg co Sell. You can also find him 1298 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: on the ESPN NFL Matchup Show where Dollars to donuts. 1299 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 1: They'll be doing a lot of Bills matchups this year. Yes, 1300 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,719 Speaker 1: I would say maybe even the very first one, although 1301 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 1: it it'll already be played before NFL matchups on so 1302 01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 1: probably not Probably not weak one, but maybe a lot 1303 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 1: of the other ones. Certainly the Kansas City game. They 1304 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,680 Speaker 1: pick those featured matchups and not coincidentally, more and more 1305 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,719 Speaker 1: have shown up on the NFL Matchup Show on ESPN 1306 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: on the weekends with Greg and Matt Bowen to do 1307 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,880 Speaker 1: a great job of that shows. That shows awesome. Yeah. 1308 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,439 Speaker 1: The thing I like about that show is they don't 1309 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 1: start getting way deep in the weeds with the football 1310 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 1: terminology and stuff. And if they do, they they break 1311 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 1: it down for you, you know, put it in Layman's term. Sure, 1312 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 1: so even the casual fan can kind of follow along. Okay, 1313 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 1: this is what he's talking about. Oh, quarters coverage? Is this? Okay? 1314 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 1: You know that kind of stuff. Yeah, they do a 1315 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 1: good job of explaining things, like like you said, to 1316 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,160 Speaker 1: the average fan. They just do I don't know, they 1317 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,840 Speaker 1: don't get too technical. Yeah, you know, it's one thing 1318 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 1: for you and I to sit there and listen to 1319 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 1: and go, okay, yeah, we've heard Sean talk about this, 1320 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 1: Leslie talk about this. It's nothing to hear. Those guys 1321 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 1: just kind of kick it around a little bit. It's 1322 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,240 Speaker 1: it's nice. It's like the Tim Russert whiteboard approach. Yeah, yes, 1323 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 1: keep it, keep it simple, stupid, it's the way you 1324 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 1: gotta do it. Eight oh three, five fifty the number 1325 01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,240 Speaker 1: two call. As we're looking for the newcomers that left 1326 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,639 Speaker 1: a good first impression on you from the Bill's first 1327 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,720 Speaker 1: preseason game. So let's go back to the phones. Now 1328 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 1: we go to Tim in Florida. What do you got first, Tim, 1329 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live, Timmy, you're there, all right? 1330 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,240 Speaker 1: Let me put Tim back on hold in case he 1331 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,519 Speaker 1: is there and you just can't hear us right now. 1332 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 1: So I hang on a second there, Tim, We'll try 1333 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 1: you back in a little bit. I haven't really kind 1334 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 1: of listed my guys who impressed me. You mentioned to 1335 01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: Rise that you liked him a lot. I think we 1336 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,360 Speaker 1: both liked what Shakir did out there on the field 1337 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:41,200 Speaker 1: for sure, you know, and I would agree, you know, Rise, 1338 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,439 Speaker 1: it was pretty damn impressive. Man. I know it's only 1339 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,200 Speaker 1: one kick, but he held well, so that's all well 1340 01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,439 Speaker 1: and good. But I did like Tim Settle a lot 1341 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,839 Speaker 1: very encouraged by what he brought to the table. Anytime 1342 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,400 Speaker 1: you're knocking Quenton Nelson back from the line of scrimmys, 1343 01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,280 Speaker 1: all world guy, he's like a top ten pick. He's 1344 01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 1: probably one of the three best guards in the entire league. 1345 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 1: And you knocked you almost knocked him off his feet 1346 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:05,880 Speaker 1: like he's kind of doing one of these, you know, 1347 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,080 Speaker 1: the back pedals. I was like, whoa, somebody came ready 1348 01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,120 Speaker 1: to play today. So I really liked what Settle brought 1349 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 1: to the table. And that's you know, that's a guy 1350 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a rotational guy. And you say, well, 1351 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,280 Speaker 1: he's probably not starting, but he's gonna get playing time 1352 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,360 Speaker 1: because we know how Leslie Frasier likes to roll those 1353 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,519 Speaker 1: guys through. So to know that that's you, that's your 1354 01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,720 Speaker 1: DT coming in on the second group, I feel good 1355 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,320 Speaker 1: about that. And he looked good against the Colts number ones, 1356 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,160 Speaker 1: So I mean, that's that's the encouraging part. He didn't 1357 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,439 Speaker 1: he wasn't making those plays against the twos and threes. 1358 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 1: He was making that against like you said, Quentin Nelson, 1359 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,559 Speaker 1: I mean, you make plays against that guy, you can 1360 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 1: make plays against anyone in the league, right, And so 1361 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,639 Speaker 1: like that. I did like the fact that Benford flashed 1362 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 1: in a game because we saw it at camp and 1363 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,599 Speaker 1: we're all saying, okay, we're gonna see that in a game. 1364 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 1: We saw it in a game, and it was nice 1365 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,599 Speaker 1: to see Elam come along. All those reps against Stefon 1366 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 1: Diggs clearly helped because when he's out there against a 1367 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 1: fellow rookie and Alec Pierce, who by all reports is 1368 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,880 Speaker 1: tearing it up in colts camp, no problem. It was 1369 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 1: mono on mono and he was fine. So all good 1370 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 1: things coming out of that. So that was encouraging to 1371 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:20,759 Speaker 1: see as well. And it was nice to see Boogie 1372 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,160 Speaker 1: Basham flash after all the work he put in this 1373 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,599 Speaker 1: offseason to kind of reshape his body and make himself 1374 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,559 Speaker 1: a more explosive player. We will take a break here, 1375 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,560 Speaker 1: we come back more of your thoughts, not only on 1376 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 1: the phone lines. We'll get to the tweet sheet next. 1377 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 1: Chris Brown Josh read with you here on One Bills 1378 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:51,240 Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, 1379 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,600 Speaker 1: welcome back one Bills Live. Chris Brown Josh read with 1380 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,200 Speaker 1: you here on a Monday after the bills first preseason 1381 01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 1: contest one in Comeback Fashion twenty seven twenty four over 1382 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,000 Speaker 1: the Colts, and we are asking you at eighth three 1383 01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 1: fifty one, eight fifty two, five fifty which Bill's newcomer 1384 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:14,560 Speaker 1: left a good first impression on you. A lot of 1385 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,559 Speaker 1: the rookies have been mentioned here thus far, particularly Shakier 1386 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,280 Speaker 1: and Specter have been the most popular names. You had 1387 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,240 Speaker 1: a couple of calls for Hodgens, so if you have 1388 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,479 Speaker 1: any others, feel free to let us know. We are 1389 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,960 Speaker 1: going to go to the tweet sheet though, to get 1390 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 1: your thoughts there. Tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan 1391 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,479 Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official equipment moving com dat of Buffalo Bills. 1392 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:41,200 Speaker 1: Connor leads off with I think Khalil Shaker made the 1393 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:45,559 Speaker 1: biggest impact of all the newcomers. Kyrie Elam and Christian 1394 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 1: Benford also had a good first game, showing their abilities 1395 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 1: to hang in there with the Colts first stringers. I 1396 01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,040 Speaker 1: think these three draft picks will have big first years 1397 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 1: for the Bills. I think all three are on the roster. 1398 01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 1: I think we can all safely say that at this 1399 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,879 Speaker 1: point based on what they've shown. I mean, unless Benford 1400 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 1: completely falls flat on his face and I don't anticipate 1401 01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:09,960 Speaker 1: that at all. The question is what is their role 1402 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,680 Speaker 1: once they're on the fifty three Because Benford, while he's 1403 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 1: probably good enough to make this fifty three man roster, 1404 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,240 Speaker 1: is he active every week? I don't know he is. 1405 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,880 Speaker 1: That would be a stretch, I think, I think, Elam, 1406 01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,679 Speaker 1: I mean yes, I mean he's your first round draft 1407 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 1: pick right now. You don't know where Trdavious White is 1408 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,320 Speaker 1: health wise, so I mean he's he's the guy you 1409 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 1: drafted him. You knew that. You know, your number one 1410 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 1: corners still dinged and rehabbing from the knee and everything. 1411 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 1: So Kaier, Elam, when you're just looking at potentially making big, 1412 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,360 Speaker 1: big plays and big moments early in the year, that's 1413 01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,280 Speaker 1: the guy that you would take. Because Khalil Shakier, you 1414 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,639 Speaker 1: got to think that they're gonna bring him along slowly, 1415 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,160 Speaker 1: kind of like they did Gabe Davis year one. You 1416 01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 1: know where it's, hey, we don't need you to make 1417 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 1: huge plays from week one on, but why by week eight, 1418 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 1: week nine, week ten, we expect you to contribute, especially 1419 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 1: if somebody's dinged up. I mean, yeah, that'll happen. Uh, 1420 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,640 Speaker 1: let's go back to the phones. Eight oh three oh 1421 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 1: five fifty. We're gonna try this a second time, Tim 1422 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:21,240 Speaker 1: in Florida. Do we have you, Tim? Yes, sir, all right, 1423 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,120 Speaker 1: what do you have for us? I didn't want to 1424 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:27,000 Speaker 1: string off the subject, but my my preseason camp guy 1425 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 1: is just Hodges. I like him. I mean injury both 1426 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,920 Speaker 1: from last season, his first year here in camp. I mean, 1427 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:36,960 Speaker 1: he was giving trade day a run for his money. 1428 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,720 Speaker 1: That was a healthy trade day. So I think he 1429 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,800 Speaker 1: has most potential of these young guys to make the 1430 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 1: fourth spot, you know, behind Mackenzie and his size, and 1431 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,720 Speaker 1: I think he's he's sneaky fast, sort of like day 1432 01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,920 Speaker 1: Davis to me, a lone strider. But I played dB. 1433 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 1: He did on top of you guys. He's even he's leaven. 1434 01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:01,000 Speaker 1: So I like Hodges. I mean, I want to get 1435 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 1: your opinion on the trade scenario that Mike may not happen. 1436 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:09,280 Speaker 1: People just talking about it, Rodkon Smith for or for 1437 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:14,479 Speaker 1: our linebacker. Oh, Tremaine Emmons. Yeah, Tremaine Evans, straight up, 1438 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:19,600 Speaker 1: you're talking? Yeah, would you do that? I would not 1439 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,880 Speaker 1: for these reasons, And thanks for the call, Tim, I 1440 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,680 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I would not for two reasons. Number one, 1441 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 1: Roquan Smith is essentially in the same boat as Tremaine Edmonds. 1442 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:35,040 Speaker 1: They're both in the final year they're contracts. So if 1443 01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,920 Speaker 1: you don't think you can resign Tremaine Emmons because you 1444 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 1: may not have the money, you're gonna get Roquan Smith 1445 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,760 Speaker 1: in here and do the exact same thing. Not to 1446 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 1: mention the fact that you're gonna have to teach Roquan 1447 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,120 Speaker 1: Smith in about two and a half weeks the entire 1448 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 1: defense well enough for him to call it out on 1449 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:56,120 Speaker 1: the field, which I wouldn't put on anybody in a 1450 01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,599 Speaker 1: go for the super Bowl type year. I think it's 1451 01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,879 Speaker 1: too disruptive to what you have to do to your defense, 1452 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,800 Speaker 1: not to mention the fact that there isn't a long 1453 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:08,120 Speaker 1: range certainty that the guy you're training for is going 1454 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,639 Speaker 1: to be here after this year anyway. So I don't 1455 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,320 Speaker 1: know how that, even if you think Smith is a 1456 01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:17,600 Speaker 1: better player than Edmonds for one year, to me, it 1457 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,960 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. Not only would I not do it, 1458 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills would have much interest in 1459 01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,200 Speaker 1: doing something like that. I mean, there's a reason that 1460 01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds is a captain on this team. You know, 1461 01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:33,439 Speaker 1: there's a reason this team has had one of the 1462 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,479 Speaker 1: best defenses in the NFL, and Tremaine has been the 1463 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,320 Speaker 1: middle linebacker of that team, of that defense. I mean, 1464 01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,040 Speaker 1: I know that there are a few shortcomings, and they 1465 01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,400 Speaker 1: we've heard even Leslie Fraser mentioned we'd like more splash 1466 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,479 Speaker 1: plays out of him. I get all that. But to 1467 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,760 Speaker 1: your point bringing in Roquan Smith and being like, hey, 1468 01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,599 Speaker 1: we've had the number one defense the last couple of years, 1469 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,400 Speaker 1: just keep it on the tracks what you've already got it. 1470 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,880 Speaker 1: Just keep doing what you're doing. The time frame doesn't work. 1471 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:11,240 Speaker 1: The long range impact may not even be something that 1472 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 1: Roquan Smith would entertain, not to mention the fact that 1473 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be looking for the same kind of 1474 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 1: money as Tremaine Emmons, so financially you don't benefit. You 1475 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 1: might in the interim because I believe his number is 1476 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,200 Speaker 1: only nine and three quarter million and Tremaine Emmons is 1477 01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 1: over twelve this year on your cap. But and I 1478 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,200 Speaker 1: know they need to save some money, but that is 1479 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,920 Speaker 1: a major change in the center of your defense in 1480 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,439 Speaker 1: a year where you're going for the whole enchilada. It 1481 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,760 Speaker 1: does not add up for me as a move that 1482 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,360 Speaker 1: makes sense. Let's go back to the phones. We go 1483 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:52,280 Speaker 1: to Clarence in Buffalo. Next we got first, Clarence, good afternoon. 1484 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,840 Speaker 1: How are you doing, Gell them good? I actually have 1485 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,640 Speaker 1: two questions for you. The first one is is there 1486 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:03,120 Speaker 1: anyone that impressed and either one of you from the 1487 01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:09,080 Speaker 1: offensive line this past game? And secondly, what's the status 1488 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: of Nick McCleod. I know he as good at the 1489 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,679 Speaker 1: beginning of the year, but we haven't heard anything else 1490 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,040 Speaker 1: about him since then, so I was wonder whom, if 1491 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,759 Speaker 1: there was the game had fallen off or what. Okay, 1492 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,160 Speaker 1: good questions, Thanks for the Carl, Clarence will be happy 1493 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 1: to answer. You want to take that first one. On 1494 01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,920 Speaker 1: the old line, Yeah, the offensive line I thought was 1495 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,560 Speaker 1: pretty nondescript. In fact, I think in general they struggled 1496 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 1: across the board because case Keenum had heat on him 1497 01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:40,559 Speaker 1: quite a bit. I think Luke Tanuda has a ways 1498 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,639 Speaker 1: to go, you know. And that's and it was twos 1499 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,040 Speaker 1: against ones. Again, it was twos against one, so you've 1500 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,519 Speaker 1: got to always keep that in mind. But yeah, I 1501 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,960 Speaker 1: think the offensive line, let's just say, you know, when 1502 01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,840 Speaker 1: you don't get your guys out there, like the Saffolds 1503 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:58,160 Speaker 1: and Dion Dawkins and Mitch Moore's. It'll be nice to 1504 01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 1: see those guys out on the field, and I'm I'm 1505 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,599 Speaker 1: sure case Keenum would like to have seen a few 1506 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,680 Speaker 1: of those guys, you know, in front of him. I 1507 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,240 Speaker 1: thought it was a it was a pretty rough day 1508 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,120 Speaker 1: for the Bill's offensive line on the whole. I thought 1509 01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,880 Speaker 1: what was interesting though about the line was how they 1510 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,080 Speaker 1: moved some of those guys around. Particularly they did, particularly 1511 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,400 Speaker 1: the guard centers. I know Doyle played tackling guard through 1512 01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,759 Speaker 1: the course of the game, but you had Greg Van Roten. 1513 01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,599 Speaker 1: He played some guard and some center in that game. 1514 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,920 Speaker 1: That's a veteran guy that they signed, played last season 1515 01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,559 Speaker 1: for the Jets. I think that's a veteran that could 1516 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:35,160 Speaker 1: be in the mix here. I did not see Greg 1517 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,880 Speaker 1: Mann's on the field. I think he sat. Also, yeah, 1518 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,479 Speaker 1: he don't remember seeing I don't remember that either. So 1519 01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 1: when you think about it, their top five didn't play. 1520 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,840 Speaker 1: Man's who figures to be a backup center, guard, maybe 1521 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,240 Speaker 1: your sixth or seventh lineman he did not play. So 1522 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,639 Speaker 1: now you're you're going out there with seven, eight, nine, ten, 1523 01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:59,439 Speaker 1: and eleven, so you know to expect it to look 1524 01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,479 Speaker 1: like a well oiled machine against starters on the defensive 1525 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,760 Speaker 1: side for the Colts. You know how fair a fight 1526 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,200 Speaker 1: is that. I mean, you can draw your own conclusions. 1527 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,800 Speaker 1: As for Nick McLeod, Yeah, got off to a red 1528 01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 1: hot start, was lining up at corner and safety since 1529 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,960 Speaker 1: Payer has been out, and then when Hyde missed some time, 1530 01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,679 Speaker 1: they had him take more snaps at safety just because 1531 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,240 Speaker 1: they were low on numbers there, not having the two starters. 1532 01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 1: And I think he's played relatively well. I don't know 1533 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,160 Speaker 1: if he's where he was at the beginning of camp 1534 01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,600 Speaker 1: when he was making plays all over the place. I 1535 01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:38,439 Speaker 1: don't think he's played poorly though. I think he's I 1536 01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:40,880 Speaker 1: guess a fair way to describe it, and you can 1537 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,679 Speaker 1: tell me if you feel differently, he maybe maybe leveled 1538 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,560 Speaker 1: off a little bit. I don't think he could have 1539 01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:52,240 Speaker 1: kept practice he started out. It's tough to top like 1540 01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,320 Speaker 1: a ball of fire, and of course you're not gonna 1541 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,840 Speaker 1: have two interceptions every single practice. But I think what 1542 01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,120 Speaker 1: we're seeing here, you mentioned Nick McCloud, you mentioned some 1543 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:04,200 Speaker 1: of these offensive linemen that those last couple of roster 1544 01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,559 Speaker 1: spots being able to do a couple of different things 1545 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:09,320 Speaker 1: is key. And I know a lot of times we 1546 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,280 Speaker 1: automatically go to that other thing is being special teamer. Yeah, 1547 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,760 Speaker 1: but I mean if you're a guard and you can 1548 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,439 Speaker 1: play some tackle and you can maybe play some center, 1549 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,600 Speaker 1: or if you're a cornerback and you can play a 1550 01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,600 Speaker 1: little bit of safety, you have a little bit of 1551 01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,400 Speaker 1: an advantage. I mean if it comes down to, you know, 1552 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,880 Speaker 1: player A who can only play one spot, and player B, 1553 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:35,760 Speaker 1: who maybe even as a tick below player A book 1554 01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,240 Speaker 1: can play multiple positions. There's a ton of value in that. 1555 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,840 Speaker 1: And we see that. We saw that a training camp. 1556 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 1: Every day we'd look out at the Bill's offensive line, 1557 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 1: in particular because a lot of the starters were banged up. Yeah, 1558 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean every day it was oh he's at guard today, 1559 01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,800 Speaker 1: Oh he's a tackle today, Oh he's at center. I 1560 01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:57,120 Speaker 1: mean they were mixing and matching everybody. Yeah, they were. 1561 01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:01,800 Speaker 1: And to that end, Nick McLeod offers similar versatility. He 1562 01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,960 Speaker 1: has shown an ability to play corner, which is where 1563 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,720 Speaker 1: he played in Notre Dame. Long range, though we've heard 1564 01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,000 Speaker 1: Brandon Beans say he might be a safety as his 1565 01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,799 Speaker 1: long range position. If he can show even a small 1566 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:18,120 Speaker 1: ability to do both, I think that that vaults him 1567 01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:22,080 Speaker 1: into a stronger conversation to potentially make the roster. Now. Look, 1568 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:26,280 Speaker 1: they're deep at safety, Hamlin, Jaquan Johnson, even Josh Thomas, 1569 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,040 Speaker 1: who's been on the practice squad the last couple of 1570 01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:31,120 Speaker 1: years as a candidate. But McLeod could be making some 1571 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,360 Speaker 1: more noise about his candidacy. If he can show he 1572 01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,320 Speaker 1: can play two spots instead of one, it makes him 1573 01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:41,240 Speaker 1: uncommonly valuable in the secondary. We have to take a break. 1574 01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 1: One more segment to go some more of your thoughts 1575 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,360 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. Next, you're on One Bills Live 1576 01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:59,880 Speaker 1: presented by Kalaid Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, 1577 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,000 Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Josh Weed 1578 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,160 Speaker 1: with you here on a Monday, and before we run 1579 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,040 Speaker 1: out of time, Josh, thanks for helping us out today. 1580 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 1: Well absolutely, we'll find out how Steve hit him today. Um, 1581 01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,719 Speaker 1: hopefully good. Although he didn't have a very good golfing 1582 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,760 Speaker 1: season he said this year and his local club show, 1583 01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,400 Speaker 1: we say he had great weather and they had great 1584 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,479 Speaker 1: weather for the event. Today, we had a great weather 1585 01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,439 Speaker 1: for camp. We've had great two yesterday was great. There 1586 01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:31,600 Speaker 1: were two two sticky days. Yeah, but not like completely unbearable, like, 1587 01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,400 Speaker 1: get me out of here. Normally we get up there 1588 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,040 Speaker 1: and there's five six straight days where it's like you 1589 01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,840 Speaker 1: don't see a cloud in the sky and the sun 1590 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,120 Speaker 1: just beats on you and it's and the humidity gets up. Yeah, 1591 01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,000 Speaker 1: we didn't have that at all. That might be might 1592 01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,760 Speaker 1: have been one of the better weather training camps that 1593 01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,400 Speaker 1: the team has had, which you gotta know, the big 1594 01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:55,400 Speaker 1: guys definitely like because you know they sweat upon coaches 1595 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,840 Speaker 1: love it all the time. Though, well, yeah, just like 1596 01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,360 Speaker 1: to crank it up a little because they got the 1597 01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,599 Speaker 1: Dolphins right week three and we know what it feels 1598 01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,240 Speaker 1: like early in the year down in Miami and they 1599 01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,920 Speaker 1: always stick the visiting team on the sunny sideline and 1600 01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,800 Speaker 1: that whole thing. So who knows if those two days 1601 01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,759 Speaker 1: of stickiness will be enough. You gotta believe coach wanted 1602 01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,679 Speaker 1: more of that. Josh will be out here One Bill's 1603 01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:20,680 Speaker 1: Drive tomorrow along with the rest of the media and 1604 01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:26,920 Speaker 1: ourselves as coach Ken Dorsey addresses the media tomorrow morning. 1605 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:28,760 Speaker 1: We will have full coverage of that here on One 1606 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,599 Speaker 1: Bill's Live as we get a sense as to how 1607 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,320 Speaker 1: he felt play calling went sitting upstairs as he has 1608 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 1: been mostly a sideline guy his whole coaching career. Yeah, 1609 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,519 Speaker 1: a small snippet in that first preseason game, but it 1610 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,120 Speaker 1: looks like it went pretty well. We didn't see any 1611 01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,880 Speaker 1: delay of game penalties, which is crucial. We never saw 1612 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,720 Speaker 1: We never saw case Keenum or Barkley going come on, 1613 01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:52,600 Speaker 1: come on, get me the play in here, you know, 1614 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,840 Speaker 1: we didn't see any of that, so it looked like 1615 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,760 Speaker 1: it went went pretty well. We didn't see any time 1616 01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,400 Speaker 1: out because the plays weren't. The communication like it was 1617 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,960 Speaker 1: pretty good. But it'll be interesting to hear what he says. Yeah, 1618 01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,519 Speaker 1: you wonder if he's set and has made a decision, 1619 01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,760 Speaker 1: or if he wants to go one more game and 1620 01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,080 Speaker 1: maybe switch things up and see if that works any 1621 01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:15,720 Speaker 1: better than the operation worked yesterday here. So it'll be 1622 01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,120 Speaker 1: interesting for sure. But Steve and I will be back 1623 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,120 Speaker 1: here tomorrow at one with all of that, so we 1624 01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,599 Speaker 1: look forward to that, along with some player comment as well. 1625 01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,680 Speaker 1: So we'll have you completely covered here on One Bills Live. 1626 01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:27,960 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow one pm.