WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: P.T. Barnum

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday, Everybody. Petty Barnum has gotten a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>name drops on the show lately, and there is another

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<v Speaker 1>coming up this week, so we are bringing out our

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<v Speaker 1>episode on him as Today's Classic. This originally came out

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<v Speaker 1>on May sixteen, twenty twelve, from previous hosts of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah and Bablina enjoying Welcome to Stuff You Missed in

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<v Speaker 1>History Class, a production of I Heart Radio. Hello, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the podcast. I'm Sarah Dowdy and I'm Deblina

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<v Speaker 1>Chocolate Boarding, and we have a few podcast regulars who

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<v Speaker 1>we like to talk about. Queen Victoria, of course, seems

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<v Speaker 1>to pop up in the most unlikely of episodes, as

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<v Speaker 1>does Arthur Conan Doyle Lord Byron had a little run

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<v Speaker 1>there for a while, but Pete Barnum may have the

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<v Speaker 1>strangest record of all of those folks. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>an episode takes place in the nineteenth century, you'll often

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<v Speaker 1>find P. T. Barnum somewhere in it, trying to buy something,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to hustle someone. And once I learned a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more about his life, though, those regular appearances seemed

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<v Speaker 1>a lot less unlikely, because in life he really was everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>buying odds and ends off of folks, cooking up hoaxes,

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<v Speaker 1>entertaining celebrities, even running for state legislature. Today, of course

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<v Speaker 1>we think of P. T. Barnum as the great circus man,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy behind the greatest show on Earth. Along with

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<v Speaker 1>his cohort and former competitor James Bailey, the Barnum and

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<v Speaker 1>Bailey Circus, which eventually teamed up with Ringling brother Circus,

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<v Speaker 1>became the premier circus in the US. So if you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen one circus in the States, it's probably Ringling Brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>Barnum and Bailey. But while Barnum helped to make the

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<v Speaker 1>Three Ring Circus the massive spectacle we know today, he

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't get into the business until he was in

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<v Speaker 1>the sixties. For most of his entertainment career, Barnum ran

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<v Speaker 1>a curiosity museum filled with wax works, fun house mirrors,

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<v Speaker 1>and other strange stuff like taxi jermy hybrid animals. He

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<v Speaker 1>also ran ten in one shows, which we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more in a minute, and he managed

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<v Speaker 1>Menagerie's and he just really promoted everything he did, earning

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<v Speaker 1>the nickname the Prince of Humbug, which it's interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>point out here that humbug had the same meaning then

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<v Speaker 1>as it does today, you know, being deceitful on purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also was the equivalent of what today we'd

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<v Speaker 1>call hype. And I think that's really the point to

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<v Speaker 1>remember when thinking about Barnum. He was a hype man.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the prince of Humbug to the end. He

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<v Speaker 1>really was so phineas. Taylor Barnum was born July ten

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<v Speaker 1>in Bethel, Connecticut. His father was kind of a jack

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<v Speaker 1>of all trades who was a tailor, a farmer, tavern keeper,

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<v Speaker 1>and as a kid, p T. Barnum worked the farm,

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<v Speaker 1>but also showed his business streak pretty early. According to

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<v Speaker 1>his New York Times obituary, he sold homemade molasses candy

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds pretty good, and gingerbread, and even some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of moonshine he'd make called cherry rum, not quite as

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<v Speaker 1>appetizing as the molasses candy and gingerbread, I think. When

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<v Speaker 1>Barnum was fifteen, his father died, leaving him to care

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<v Speaker 1>for his mother and his five sisters and brothers. This

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<v Speaker 1>started a string of jobs and moves to get away

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<v Speaker 1>from manual farm work because he really disliked it. He

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<v Speaker 1>worked in a general store, moved to Brooklyn, and came

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<v Speaker 1>home to Bethel to open his own store at age eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he got married at nineteen to a local girl

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<v Speaker 1>named Charity Hallett. He published a weekly paper called The

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<v Speaker 1>Herald of Freedom and Dan Barry Connecticut, and was arrested

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<v Speaker 1>three times for libel gives you a little peek at

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<v Speaker 1>his his future career too, but it was his eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five moved back to New York City at the

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<v Speaker 1>age of twenty five that really got him into show

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<v Speaker 1>business and compared to his later insistence on family friendly entertainment,

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<v Speaker 1>his first gigs in New York were considered quite low amusements,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Timothy Gilfoyle and then Journal of the History

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<v Speaker 1>of Sexuality. He'd run minstrel shows. He'd write ads for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bowery Amphitheater in the very rough Five Points neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would talent scout there too. He discovered acts

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<v Speaker 1>like William Henry Lane, who was better known later as

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<v Speaker 1>Juba Black Dancer, who broke into the all white minstrel shows.

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<v Speaker 1>But Barnum's first really big discovery was an old woman

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<v Speaker 1>named Joyce Heth and Heth claimed to have been born

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<v Speaker 1>in sixteen seventy four, which would have made her a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty one years old. But even more impressively,

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<v Speaker 1>she claimed to have been the nurse for the young

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington. She was blind and frail, but she'd smoke

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<v Speaker 1>a pipe and tell visitors stories about Washington as a boy.

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<v Speaker 1>To kind of authenticate these outrageous stories, Barnum presented her

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<v Speaker 1>alongside her seventeen twenty seven bill of sale to George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington's father. So no surprise probably that this was eventually

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<v Speaker 1>exposed as a hoax, but at certain he convinced to

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<v Speaker 1>Barnum that show biz was worth as a while. With

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<v Speaker 1>Heth and his act, he earned seven and fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a week. So in eighteen forty one, after that first

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<v Speaker 1>big success with Health, Barnum decided that he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go into the museum business. Then it may be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hard to understand why a hoax promoting former minstrel

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<v Speaker 1>show admin would want to get into museums, but David A. Norris,

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<v Speaker 1>writing in History Magazine, helped explain a little bit to

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<v Speaker 1>me how different and uncommon American museums were in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen forties from what they are today, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the country's earliest museums was called Peels, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>in Independence Hall in Philadelphia. Was established in seventeen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>four by Charles Wilson Peel, and visitors who were going

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<v Speaker 1>there could just see a real mixed bag of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>folk clothing from around the world, a quote tiger cat,

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<v Speaker 1>even lava from Mount Vesuvius, or at least something billed

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<v Speaker 1>as lava from Mount Vesuvius. The first mastodon skull laton

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<v Speaker 1>shown in the United States was there, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>also plant and animal specimens from Lewis and Clark's expedition,

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<v Speaker 1>so anything you could imagine could be found, apparently at

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<v Speaker 1>Peel's museum. Another major museum in the style of Peels

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<v Speaker 1>was that of John Scutter, who ran his front of

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<v Speaker 1>five story marble building in New York City. When Scutter's

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<v Speaker 1>closed in one Barnum tried to buy it, but was

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<v Speaker 1>beat out by representatives from Peels, who paid for the

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<v Speaker 1>building in stock. When that stock collapse, though, Barnum wound

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<v Speaker 1>up being able not only to buy Scutters but quite

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<v Speaker 1>a few of Peel's exhibits too. He reopened this as

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<v Speaker 1>Barnum's American Museum and kept some of the flavor of

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<v Speaker 1>the old style museums, including the menagerie's tax Germy's exotic

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<v Speaker 1>items from around the world, But he also added another

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<v Speaker 1>popular element of the day, which was freak shows. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's time to talk a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 1>tradition of so called freak shows, because if we just

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<v Speaker 1>jump right into it, it's going to seem a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit out of place. According to Laura Grand in History Magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>the tradition of freak shows had really been around for

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<v Speaker 1>quite some time by the time Barnum was getting into

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<v Speaker 1>the business, really since the early sixteen hundreds, right around

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<v Speaker 1>the time that many people stopped seeing major physical abnormalities

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<v Speaker 1>as some kind of divine punishment or bad omen But

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteenth century, the exhibition of people with physical

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<v Speaker 1>abnormalities bearded ladies for example, or thin men, really started

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up. Ten and one shows would exhibit ten performers,

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<v Speaker 1>usually a mix of physically unusual people with folks with

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<v Speaker 1>unusual talents such as sword swallowing or fire eating. So

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<v Speaker 1>two of the earliest American freak show stars where Chang

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<v Speaker 1>and Hang can join twins the original Siamese Twins, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and basically visitors would walk by these ten performers and

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<v Speaker 1>look at them. It's something that sounds very awkward and

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable today, but these shows were really getting very popular

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteenth century, and Barnum's technique of combining these

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<v Speaker 1>ten and one shows and other types of freak show

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<v Speaker 1>acts with a curiosity filled museum proved to be a

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<v Speaker 1>major hit. Visitors would flood to his American museum, paying

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five cents for the privilege of seeing his curated

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<v Speaker 1>collection from around the world. He built the place as

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<v Speaker 1>admission to everything, and in addition to a sideshow type performances,

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<v Speaker 1>he staged beauty pageants, cultural exhibits, and dramatics like adaptations

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<v Speaker 1>of Harriet Beecher Stowe's novels or those of Charles Dickens,

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<v Speaker 1>who was incidentally a visitor. So the museum was open

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<v Speaker 1>six days a week, fifteen hours a day. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a real modern businessman. I mean, I even think that

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<v Speaker 1>admission to everything sounds kind of like a slogan you

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<v Speaker 1>would hear today um. But well, many side shows at

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<v Speaker 1>the time featured adults only entertainment. Barnett was really big

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<v Speaker 1>on bringing the whole family, and the whole family was there,

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<v Speaker 1>though he would hustle them through the exhibits by displaying

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<v Speaker 1>a large sign in the back labeled egress, and so

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<v Speaker 1>people would wonder, what's an egress? You know, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that door I need to go see, And then

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<v Speaker 1>once they get there, they'd realize, oh, agres is just

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<v Speaker 1>another word for exit, and they'd have to pay if

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to get back in again. The museum's first

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<v Speaker 1>big hit was the Fiji Mermaid, supposedly caught by a

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese fisherman, but this was really just a hoax personally

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<v Speaker 1>engineered by Barnum. It was a monkey's body sewn onto

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<v Speaker 1>a large fish tail. Other attractions over the years included

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<v Speaker 1>a giant python and electric eels, and albino Beauty, the

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<v Speaker 1>Wild Boy, who was an exceptionally hairy child, Pharaoh's Chariot Wheel,

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<v Speaker 1>Rosa Richter, the Human Cannonball, Annie Jones, the Bearded Lady Eyes, W. Sprague,

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<v Speaker 1>the American human Skeleton, kral Farini, the Missing Link, the

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<v Speaker 1>Wonder of the World, who was an armless man who

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<v Speaker 1>used his feet to do tricks like firing a pistol

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<v Speaker 1>or playing an instrument. In eighteen sixty one, Barnum even

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<v Speaker 1>added a white whale to his menagerie's pipes, would supply

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<v Speaker 1>it with fresh seawater, and he'd also include hoaxes of hoaxes,

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<v Speaker 1>like the fake version of the already fake Cardiff Giant

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<v Speaker 1>we discussed in our Historical Hoaxes episode from last summer.

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<v Speaker 1>After Barnum's offer to buy the real fake Giant was

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<v Speaker 1>turned down, he just made his own and started saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that one is fake, I have the real one, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimately he was sued and the judge rule, both of

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<v Speaker 1>your giants are fake. This is a non issue. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Barnum himself was also something of an attraction at his museum,

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<v Speaker 1>much like Madam Tussot was at her wax works. He

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<v Speaker 1>was fairly striking six two balding, He had blue eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and a giant nose in a pot belly, and was

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<v Speaker 1>always there, always roaming around if he wasn't out looking

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<v Speaker 1>for new curiosities to bring to it. Barnum's real name maker, though,

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<v Speaker 1>was his own distant cousin, Charles Stratton, and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about Stratton's life later. Maybe in

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<v Speaker 1>a different episode. He and Barnum went from being manager

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<v Speaker 1>and child performer to being business partners and lifelong friends.

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<v Speaker 1>But Stratton's appearance as General Tom Thumb introduced Barnum to

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<v Speaker 1>really new heights of fame. Stratton, who was a little

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<v Speaker 1>person tall when he was discovered by Barnum at age five,

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<v Speaker 1>was trained to sing, dance, and do comic compressions. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a natural ham and an actor, and met folks

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<v Speaker 1>like Abraham Lincoln and even Queen Victoria. She is again

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<v Speaker 1>we need to start keeping a tally here. But Barnum

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<v Speaker 1>had ambitions outside of the museum, even though Tom Thumb

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<v Speaker 1>made him a huge hit in this world. According to

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<v Speaker 1>Encyclopedia Britannica, he wanted to be an impressar oh too,

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<v Speaker 1>and he recruited the Swedish soprano Jenny Lynn to make

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<v Speaker 1>that happen. She's somebody who appeared in our Hans Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson episode. He had She was his celebrity crush. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>even though Barnum hadn't ever seen Lynn, hadn't ever heard

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<v Speaker 1>her sing, he blatched onto her, decided that she would

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<v Speaker 1>be his ticket to the real big time, and publicized

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<v Speaker 1>her as the Swedish Nightingale. He publicized her so successfully

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<v Speaker 1>that forty thou people were waiting for her upon her

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<v Speaker 1>arrival in the United States. She toured for about nine

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<v Speaker 1>months to sell out shows and really became one of

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<v Speaker 1>the earliest marketing sensations to She had all this tie

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<v Speaker 1>in merchandise connected to her, like a Jenny Lynn bonnet,

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<v Speaker 1>a Jenny Lynn porcelain set, all sorts of things that

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<v Speaker 1>are easy to imagine today, but we're fairly unusual at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Barnum also got into politics. He served twice

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<v Speaker 1>in the Connecticut legislature and as mayor of Bridgeport, where

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<v Speaker 1>he was an especially strong opponent of racial discrimination and

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<v Speaker 1>and of prostitution. In eighteen forty eight, he became a teetotaler,

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<v Speaker 1>hiring undercover detectives to patrol his museum for anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>could be maybe sneaking in a drink, or just any

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<v Speaker 1>low people. He was very concerned about them potentially being

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<v Speaker 1>in his museum. Kind of odd considering his earlier show.

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<v Speaker 1>His career exactly when he got into real estate in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen fifties, he'd even have leaser's or buyers signed

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<v Speaker 1>covenants banning the use of liquor or tobacco on the property.

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<v Speaker 1>He even eventually made his performers swear off alcohol and

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<v Speaker 1>ran a temperance play at the museum for one hundred shows.

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<v Speaker 1>So to mark all of his achievements in life. At

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<v Speaker 1>this point in politics in the business world, Barnum decided

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<v Speaker 1>to build a palace. And you can't imagine somebody like

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<v Speaker 1>Barnum building a little understated house, but this really was

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<v Speaker 1>a palace. It was on seventeen acres in Connecticut. He

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<v Speaker 1>called it a Ranistan and the inspiration for the building

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<v Speaker 1>was Brighton's Royal Pavilion, which I saw when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in ninth grade, I think, and it's a can look

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<v Speaker 1>up a picture of it. It's pretty elaborate. Anything that

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<v Speaker 1>it's the inspiration for would be pretty elaborate to I'd imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>He entertained big names there too, people like Mark Twain,

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<v Speaker 1>Horace Greeley. But in eighteen fifty seven Barnum's luck started

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<v Speaker 1>to turn. The palace burned down, which started a chain

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<v Speaker 1>of misfortune that eventually drove Barnum coincidentally into the circus business.

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<v Speaker 1>He lost his money though through bad investments in a

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<v Speaker 1>clock of business and saw his museum burned down twice.

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<v Speaker 1>During the Civil War, Confederate spies had plotted to set

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<v Speaker 1>fires throughout New York City, including one at Barnum's. The

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<v Speaker 1>plot failed, with the museum burned down just a few

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<v Speaker 1>months later. Anyway, after twice rebuilding his museum and twice

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<v Speaker 1>losing it to fire, he switched to a menagerie, but

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<v Speaker 1>saw this burned down two in eighteen seventy three. That

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<v Speaker 1>same year, his wife Charity died, and two outward appearances.

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<v Speaker 1>After Charity died, Barnum waited ten months before remarrying twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two year old Nancy Fish, who was forty four years

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<v Speaker 1>younger than him. According to that Guilfoil article we mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>though he was actually remarried after only thirteen weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>before he had even returned home to the United States

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<v Speaker 1>following charities death. The whole thing was super super secret.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody knew about it except the couple, and the marriage

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<v Speaker 1>certificate wasn't even found until nineteen four, so he really

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<v Speaker 1>took the secret to the grave. Barnum's remarriage also coincided

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<v Speaker 1>with his entrance into the circus world. Though he started

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<v Speaker 1>a traveling show and called it the Great Traveling World's Fair.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really bigger than most of the circuses of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, and Barnum would even arrange it was so big,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, that it would have to be way on

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<v Speaker 1>the outskirts of town. So Barnum would arrange these excursion

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<v Speaker 1>trains so that people in cities could easily come to

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<v Speaker 1>his show. He could just shuttle them back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>and get more customers that way. In eighteen eighty he

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<v Speaker 1>merged with the Great London Circus, Sanger's Royal British Menagerie

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<v Speaker 1>and the Grand International Allied Shows, and later became the

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<v Speaker 1>Barnum and Bailey Circus, better known as the Greatest Show

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth, which we talked about in the intro. Barnum,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, didn't invent the modern circus, but by working

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<v Speaker 1>with Bailey, he helped make it the giant, really spectacular

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<v Speaker 1>event that we know it as today, rather than the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of small time entertainment it was in the past. Exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and Barnum's eighty two purchase of Jumbo the African Elephant

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<v Speaker 1>also helped to make this act a hit, really helped

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<v Speaker 1>to make the Barnum and Bailey Circus get off the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Jumbo is another subject we're gonna say for later. He

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<v Speaker 1>has a pretty interesting story, but he was popular enough

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<v Speaker 1>that his name caught on as a term for Jumbo,

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<v Speaker 1>really really big um. That's just a little hint of

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<v Speaker 1>how crazy Jumbo's ultimate story is. Though, the Prince of

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<v Speaker 1>Humbug stayed devoted to self promotion to the end too.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighteen eighty four, he moved his autobiography into the

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<v Speaker 1>public domain because he was more concerned with attracting readers

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<v Speaker 1>than making money off of it. In at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of eighty one and clearly dying at this point, he

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<v Speaker 1>had a New York obituary published ahead of schedule so

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<v Speaker 1>that he could read it and enjoy his own hype

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<v Speaker 1>before he passed away. So P. T. Barnum died April

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<v Speaker 1>seven in Bridgeport, leaving most of his estate to his

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<v Speaker 1>sole grandson, and aside from his circus legacy, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Barnum is probably most famous for a quote

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<v Speaker 1>that he likely never said, and that's, of course, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a sucker born every minute. We meant to mention that

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<v Speaker 1>in the Cardiff Giant episode one quote that might suit

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<v Speaker 1>him a little better, though in one that he really

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<v Speaker 1>did say is that people quote appear disposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>amused even when they are conscious of being deceived. And

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<v Speaker 1>he got a lot of flak for some of his deceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was pretty frank about them in his autobiography,

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<v Speaker 1>but he stuck by it to a certain extent. Revised

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<v Speaker 1>some things in his in his biography, but was fairly

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<v Speaker 1>open a out the deceptions he had committed and how

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<v Speaker 1>he did them, and how it was all just in

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<v Speaker 1>good fun if you still enjoyed the show. According to

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<v Speaker 1>his biographer Candice Fleming, when he was asked whether he

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<v Speaker 1>wished he had done something more important with his life,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, quote, Amusement may not be the great aim

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