1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: and there's Chuck and Jerry's here with us too, and 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: that makes this Stuff you Should Know. With the snip 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: snip addition, snip snip a dish very nice. We're talking 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: about getting the snip a k A. A vasectomy a 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: k a. A vast otomy if you really want to 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: be smart about the whole thing. Um and Chuck, our 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: buddy Dave Russ helps us with this. And I have 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: to say, Dave is a really big proponent of vasectomies, 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: and I get why, but he really is all about vasectomies. 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: I suspect he would get a couple if he could. Yeah, 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: it's funny now that I know about them. It is 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: a remarkably basic thing that's being done. And sometimes that's 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: sort of the beautiful simplicity of certain medical procedures is 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: it's like, just cut that thing there and you're all good. 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: There's a problem that's not cut. So it is remarkably easy. 18 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: The recovery time is really fast. It's relatively cheap, even 19 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: if you don't have insurance covering it, which most most 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: people don't in the United States, and yet in the 21 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: US and a lot of other countries. Um. The the 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: it's really disproportionate the number of men in reproductive age 23 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: who have a vasectomy um compared to the number of 24 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: women who have undergone tubal ligation getting your tubes tied, 25 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: and both are basically equally effective, but getting your tubes 26 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: tied is way more involved. It requires general anesthesia, the 27 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: recovery time is much longer, and it seems to basically 28 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: come down to men just being scared of some guy 29 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: monkeying around their junk with a scalpel um and worrying 30 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: about what the after effects will be. But it turns 31 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: out totally unnecessarily and unfairly. Yeah, I mean, we'll get 32 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: to some of the myths, um and I would say 33 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: it's it's equal parts being scared of those myths and 34 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: quite simply the patriarchy, I mean kind of full stop 35 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: men saying like, uh, you need to take care of 36 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: that on your end. Uh, and and then we can 37 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: start having unprotected sex and the And that's why a 38 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: lot of people frame it as it's a real gift 39 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: that a man can give to his wife or his 40 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: spouse or his sexual partner, you know, the person who's 41 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: monogamously having sex with, Because we should point out vasectomy 42 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: is going to handle pregnancy basically every time. Um, it's 43 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: not going to help with S T I S. So 44 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: if you're running around exposing yourself, the monkey pox of 45 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: vasectomy is not going to help with any of that. 46 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: It's going to just help with the pregnancy partner. Yeah, 47 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: and I hope that counts as a blanket statement. So 48 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: when we say things like and now you can have, 49 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, all the sex you want without using a condom, 50 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: without fear of getting pregnant, we don't. We don't mean 51 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: like a step right up. What we mean is is 52 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: you know with your monogamous partner you can now live, 53 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: and you know with your monogamous partner you can get 54 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: tested and you can know that that part is safe 55 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: as well. But we are definitely not saying just that 56 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: means you can go around and and spread your seed, 57 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: your your biological material. It was even worse somehow. Oh 58 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: it's terrible, Dave us as well. We'll get to the 59 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: material part. But it's such a gross way to describe 60 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: any thing that comes out of your body. But you 61 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: mentioned the patriarchy. Here's a patriarchal um stat for you. 62 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: Thirty of American women age thirty five to forty four 63 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: have their tubes tied thirty nine percent. Do you want 64 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: to know how many men aged thirty five to forty 65 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: four in America have had a vasectomy. I've got to 66 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: be at least twenty five right percent? Percent? That's it. 67 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: So that means that, um, what more than about three 68 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: times right on the nose, three times more women have 69 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: their tubes side than men undergo vasectomy. And hopefully, like 70 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: as people are hearing about this stuff, um, it becomes 71 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: less scary and maybe more men will be prone to 72 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: do it, because if you're looking to stop having kids 73 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: or never have a kid, this this is a really 74 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: good way to go. It's safe, it's effective, and again 75 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: it's relatively cheap, and the recovery time is like nothing. Yeah, 76 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: some of those myths that we mentioned that are not true. 77 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: Or is that the operation is painful, which is not true. 78 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: That it affects sex, that it affects your erection, it 79 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: affects your orgasm and ejaculation, it affects your sex drive 80 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: and testosterone. It means you're not a real man, Like, 81 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: none of those things are true. And if any of 82 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: those dudes were speaking to you, if any of those 83 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: are reasons why you don't want to get a vasectomy, 84 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: then you have no reason to just like that is 85 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: a fact. Yeah, and we'll go into those in more detail. 86 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: But yes, all of those are totally incorrect. Probably everything 87 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: you think or worry about vasectomes is incorrect. That's that's 88 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: a pretty good bet, actually, Yeah. Or if your reason is, well, 89 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, I may want to have kids one day, 90 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: that is a very good reason because as you'll see, 91 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: there is a reversal surgery, but it they definitely haven't 92 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: perfected it. It is expensive, it's more invasive. Um, this 93 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: is something you really need to consider very very strongly 94 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: as a long term life decision. Yeah. Like if you 95 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: were like, oh, it's one more kid, and you're like, 96 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: I regret having this third kid, maybe it is time 97 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: to talk about getting a vasectomy. Or if you're like, 98 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: I think this world is grossly overpopulated, we're treating it terribly. 99 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to introduce yet another human into it 100 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: and screwed up even more. Um, that might be a 101 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: good reason. I have a sectomy too, and apparently that's 102 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: an increasing um the reason for gen z and millennials 103 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: getting vasectomies these days. Yeah, Or if you have already 104 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: bore a couple of children and you look at your 105 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: partner and say, hey, dude, I don't want any more kids, 106 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: how about you get a vasectomy, and they give you 107 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: a reason that equates to I want to keep my 108 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: life options open. That's a different conversation. Yeah, then you're 109 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: with the wrong person, right, you know, But no, on 110 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: down the road, I might meet someone else. Right now, 111 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: I guess I should say, Chuck, we've we've been talking 112 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: almost exclusively about like men and women, you know, like 113 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: biological sex um as far as vasectomies go. And I 114 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: actually looked. I was like, is this part of transitioning 115 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: in the trans community? And I saw that probably isn't. 116 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you can imagine like going from transitioning from 117 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: male to female. Um, you might want to get a vasectomy. 118 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: But I saw specifically that the hormone therapy renders that 119 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: like no and void, there's no point in getting one 120 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: from what I saw, right, So that's why we're using 121 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: the terms that we're using in the words we're using 122 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: so um. One of the things about a vasectomy One 123 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: of the reasons why it is so great is because 124 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: it is basically a hundred percent effective at preventing pregnancy. 125 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: And like I said, tubal ligation is is just as effective, um, 126 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: but as far as other stuff that men can do 127 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: to prevent to act as birth control, I mean, like 128 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: vasectomy is far in a way superior to all of them. 129 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Like you've got coitus interrupt us a k a. The 130 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: pullout method. Yeah, that's only seventy eight percent effective. I 131 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: am too. You can just ask the pullout king if 132 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: that works or not. Hey, get in here, pullout king, 133 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: and then uh, condoms are eight five percent effective. That 134 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: seems high to me too, but I guess actually no, 135 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: and on second thought, it's probably pretty accurate. But even still, 136 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: that's a fifteen percent chance every time you have sex 137 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: that you're going to accidentally impregnate your partner. That's what's 138 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: so great about vasectomy. You have no worries whatsoever because 139 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of steps that we'll talk about 140 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: that say Okay, you're good to go go forth and 141 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: have sex with your partner, that one partner that you're 142 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: monogamous with and is monogamous with you as much as 143 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: you like without a condom for the rest of your life. 144 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: Anytime you want, just go ahead and do it. Do 145 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: it in a changing room at Target, do it in 146 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: your card at the police station when you get arrested 147 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: for doing then changing room and Target, none of these 148 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: places you should do that. But you could because you 149 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: don't have a condom on you and it doesn't matter 150 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: in that sense. Uh. You mentioned it being relatively cheap. 151 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: Did you say the actual number, which is about a 152 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: thousand bucks? Yes? I did not. Okay, okay, yes you 153 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: did not. That kind of episode, Chuck. A thousand dollars 154 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: is certainly nothing to sneeze at. But um tubal ligation 155 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: is about six times that much. Um. Condoms aren't cheap. 156 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: So if you're if you're choosing to have a lot 157 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: of sex and were a lot of condoms and you're 158 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: going to run up a bill there. Uh. And it 159 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: doesn't take super long. It's a twenty minute outpatient surgery, 160 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: very very low risk of complications. Uh. It does not 161 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: require general anesthesia like tubal ligation does. It's just local anesthesia, 162 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: which that right there is like there's your like how 163 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: much do you love me kind of thing? Are you 164 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: going to let me risk dying under general anesthesia comp 165 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: here to your local anesthesia. That's the that's what makes 166 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: that kind of conversation hard when you're like, should you 167 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: get your tubes tied or should I get a vasectomy? 168 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: You know absolutely, uh in recovery time, it's just a 169 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: couple of days later. Um for vasectomy is you're kind 170 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: of doing pretty well, and it takes a few weeks 171 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: or up to a few weeks for recovery for tubal ligation. Yeah, 172 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: because tubal ligation is so much more invasive. You know, 173 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: it's it's a much greater surgical procedure. Um. And then 174 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: one other thing that is really important is like, like 175 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: I said, it's considered a gift from the guy to 176 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: his wife because you're saying like, hey, you don't have 177 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: to worry about this stuff anymore. You don't have to 178 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: take the pill anymore, you don't have to get an 179 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: I U D, you don't have to get injections. Um, 180 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: you don't have to get your tubes tied. Like I'll 181 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: handle this for both of us, and I'll take one 182 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: for the team. And that that really is like a 183 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: genuine gift that you can give your partner. That I mean, 184 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: like they I imagine they will value you for it 185 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: at the very least to put it in a really 186 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: sta away Sure, no pun intended, No, sadly, no, I'm 187 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: not that sharp today. Well, let's take a break. I'm 188 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: gonna sharpen you up, and we're gonna come back and 189 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: talk about the procedure right after this. All right, so 190 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: we're back. We're talking vasectomes. Keep saying it like it's 191 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: got an F in their vasectomese vasectomies, And the point 192 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: of a vasectomy is to keep your sperm away from 193 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: your semen. Uh. And this is where Dave uses a 194 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: word that just cracks me up. It's that material. Uh. 195 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: He says that semen is all of the material that 196 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: comes out of the penis during ejaculation. For some reason, 197 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just sounds like you're pulling a 198 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: silk scarf out of a sleep or something. That's that's great, 199 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: but when you add biological in front of it, it 200 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: gets even worse because you're like, for some reason, you 201 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: just imagine it everywhere for as I do at least, 202 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: but sperm and semen are two different things, right, Yes, 203 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: sperm is just one tiny component component of semen and um. 204 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: You could make a really good case that semen exists 205 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: if you're into intelligent design and that kind of thing, 206 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: as a vehicle for sperm. But what humans have cleverly 207 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: figured out is you can keep the semen, you can 208 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: get rid of the sperm, and you can do this 209 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: you can spread the biological material all over the place 210 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: without any worry of getting pregnant because all you're doing 211 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: is removing the sperm from entering the semen, and the 212 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: semen comes out like normal. It's just sperm free after 213 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: of a vasectomy, that's right. Uh. It's called a vasectomy, 214 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: by the way, because of the vase the A S 215 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: deference a k a. The sperm duct um that is 216 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: basically the target of this operation. It is a tube 217 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: in the scrotum in the pelvis. It's called the vast deference. 218 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: There are two of them because you have two testes 219 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: and so a vase difference. If you well, we'll talk 220 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: about what you actually do, but it's called a vast 221 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: ectomy because of that, right, And you can remember that 222 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: by saying a vasectomy makes a vast deference in your 223 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: sex life. Very nice those off the cuff. I do 224 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: not have that written down at least so um with 225 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: so with the with the vasectomy, the vast deference is 226 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: just cutting. That's it. The vest difference from each testicle. 227 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: That's that's all there is to it. I mean there's 228 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: a little more to it, but it's really that basic. 229 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: You want to talk about the procedure. Yeah, like I said, 230 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: you've got these two vast deference each one, uh is 231 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: about twelve to eight eighteen inches. But size isn't important 232 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: here from what I've been told. Uh. And they run 233 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: from the base of your test e s up around 234 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: to the back of the bladder where your seminal vesicles are. 235 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: And like you said, their their job is to take 236 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: your sperm mix it in with the rest of your 237 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: semanic material. Which I don't think we said what it was. 238 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: It's fluids from the seminal vessel, fluids from the prostate, uh, 239 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: and from what's called the bulb I had it earlier, 240 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: the bulba erethoral grands. No, I'm afraid not go ahead 241 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: hit me. I think it's bulbo your rethroll. Yes, it 242 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: absolutely is so bad to me, is one of the 243 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: worst words I've ever seen. It looks like what it describes. 244 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: In my imagination, that word looks like it can't you 245 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: can't you just see it. But you put all this 246 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: stuff together, and you've got the biological material that comes 247 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: out of the penis during ejaculation, Like Dave says, right, 248 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: So the vast difference its role is to move sperm 249 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: from the testies too. I think the prostate um to 250 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: deliver this to your um, to your semen. And again, 251 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: when you have a vasectomy, all you're doing is cutting 252 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: the vast difference, so you're removing sperm from the equation um. 253 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: And now I think it's probably time to talk about 254 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: the surgery step by step, right, And I think when 255 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: we do this, most people who don't know about this 256 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: are going to be amazed because it is wham bam, 257 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: thank you, ma'am kind of surgery. Considering what you're doing 258 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: and the effect that it has, the outcome it has, 259 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: it's incredibly simple and fast. Yeah, maybe we should cue 260 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: up Yakety Sacks. That's the perfect Did you ever see 261 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: Dolly Parton at um? Oh? I can't remember what the 262 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: glaston Bury I think festival I did she said, I 263 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: can play yakety sacks backwards and she turns around and 264 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: plays it. Oh my god. Still after all this time, 265 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: she is National Treasure, International, Treasure Global. So what they're 266 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: gonna do is they're gonna numb the area that they're 267 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: going to be working on with local anesthetic on either 268 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: side of the scrowtum. That may be the most harrowing 269 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: part for for people listening to this. H They're gonna 270 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: make two small incisions at the top of the scuretum 271 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: so they have access to uh each vast deference, and 272 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: they're going to I love that, he says. Gently. They're 273 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: going to do gently withdraw part of it through the incision. 274 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna snip it, and they're gonna seal it up. 275 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes the stitches, sometimes they cauterize it. Uh. Sometimes it's 276 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: a combination of things. But they're basically just gonna seal 277 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: up that tube and they're gonna close those tiny incisions 278 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: up with stitches or maybe glue even that is it. 279 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: Whatever they have lying around exactly a little sawdust and spit. 280 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: But that's it, man, that is it. And again, yes, 281 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: the guy is cutting into your scrowedum, into your junk um, 282 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: I should say, I mean guy in a gender neutral way. 283 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: You know, who knows who your erologist is. But they 284 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: like they they are cutting into it. They know what 285 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: they're doing. It's really just cutting through a little bit 286 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: of skin that again has been anesthetized locally. And I 287 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: mean that's it. Like this, it's almost like cutting a 288 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: rope and then taking a lighter and burning each end 289 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: so that it doesn't fray any longer. That's pretty much 290 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: analogous to a vasectomy, except the rope is in your 291 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: your scrowed them and they don't use it like a 292 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: big lighter. They probably use something else to cauterize it. Yeah, 293 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: and then your riding your horse the next day. Actually, 294 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: you probably don't want to be doing that next day. 295 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: You want to wait a week to ride your horse. 296 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: But the point taken, you know. Uh. They're also what's 297 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: called no scalpel vasectomes, which are not completely no scalpel, 298 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: but there are no incisions made in a technical sense. 299 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: They use a this sounds even norse. Actually they use 300 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: a punch tool to punch a small hole in the 301 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: skin of the scrotum, and then they withdraw the section 302 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: of the vast difference that way. Um, you still have 303 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: to use a scalpel to cut the cut the tube, 304 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: but apparently you heal up a little bit faster with 305 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: this method. Yeah, because there's no actual incision. It's just 306 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: a puncture wound basically. So yeah, I mean it's smaller 307 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: surface area to to recover, I guess. Yeah. And if 308 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: you're thinking, Josh Chuck or doctor, doctor, well what about 309 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: all that sperm? I got so much sperm? Where is 310 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: it gonna go? And it is gonna build up? And 311 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: that you know that's a problem. Uh, that is not 312 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: what happens. Your body absorbs the sperm. You don't get 313 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: some big, like massive sperm build up. Let me tell 314 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: you about your sperm and where it matures over seventy days. 315 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: And then also it's in the epididymus. And your epididymus 316 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: is eighteen feet long, and it's coiled up in your testies. 317 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: Each testicle has an epididymus that's eighteen ft long if 318 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: you stretched it out, and this is where the sperm 319 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: kind of gathers and grows and and gets ready for action. 320 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: And apparently after your vasectomy and the sperm has nowhere 321 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: to go. It stays in the epididymus, which naturally absorbs 322 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: it back into the bloodstream because if you, you know, 323 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: don't see any action for a while, your sperm can 324 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: get kind of old and your body wants new, fresh 325 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: good sperm to be used, so the old stuff gets 326 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: absorbed anyway happening, Yes exactly. This isn't like some new 327 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: thing that your body has to do. It's just that's 328 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: all it does now is absorbs sperm. It doesn't ejaculate 329 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: it anymore. Right, Um, you mentioned the term bestotomy earlier. 330 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: Technically that's probably what it should be called. Uh ectomy 331 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: is is usually when you are removing something, and you're 332 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: really not removing anything in this So if you want 333 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: to get super technical, you could call it a bestotomy 334 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: and your doctor might just say yeah, yeah, yeah, I 335 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: got you, or they might be like, oh, I'm going 336 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: to give you a nice valium too, because you impressed 337 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: them so much. There's one other thing about the sperm. 338 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: There's a kind of vasectomy called an open end vasectomy, 339 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: where they just caught or eze them the tube leading 340 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: to your prostate and the tube that's coming right out 341 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: of your testicle is left open. So that the sperm 342 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: actually just does flow out into your scrotum and it 343 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: gets absorbed in there as well. And is it like 344 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: one of those uh spaghetti sprinklers that kids run through 345 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: when you turn it on. No, it's like one of 346 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: those um those like air blow guys that like tire 347 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: stores used to bring in the customers. I think it's 348 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: more like that or either one, because they're both the life. Um, this, 349 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: like we mentioned, takes about twenty minutes, doesn't even have 350 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: to take that long. Sometimes they can get you in 351 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: another and as little as ten minutes you might get 352 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: a little bit of pain meds. But um, and you 353 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: know this is from from Dave sort of telling his 354 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: firsthand that after the first day or so, it's really 355 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: not that big of a deal. But you're gonna be 356 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: resting for twenty four hours you meet chilling out in bed. Basically, Um, 357 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: you want to wear this is pretty funny. Um, you 358 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: want to wear tidy whitey's very tight underwear or a 359 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: jock strap for forty eight hours? Right, Probably the tidy 360 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: whities is preferable. I don't know, jock strap is pretty good. Look, 361 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: you just don't want to think swinging around because you 362 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: have two incisions on your scrotum that have been stitched up, 363 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: and you don't want to, you know, loosen the stitches, 364 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: I think is the point. Yeah, what else you gonna do? 365 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: Cold pack? No, no, no doubt, like actual frozen bag 366 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: of frozen peas could work, um, because it could become inflamed. 367 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: Your body has been insulted and it's going to react 368 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: with inflammation. That helps with it. Um. Again, you're gonna 369 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: have pain, and you probably won't need them after the 370 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: first day. You might need like advil or tail and 371 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: all or whatever. Your regular analgesic is. Um. But like 372 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: we're saying earlier, you can't ride a horse for a week, right, Yeah, 373 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: in a couple of days, you can do desk work 374 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: and stuff like that and you're off your feet, but um, 375 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: no sports and and uh no sexual activity for a week. 376 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: So here's the sort of trick is you're gonna still 377 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: have sperm in your system after a vasectomy. Uh. So 378 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: there's a chance if you had unprotected sex with your 379 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: partner right away, uh, that you could get them pregnant. Uh. 380 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: You need to clear the system. So it takes up 381 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: the fifteen to twenty ejaculations to clear the system out. 382 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: So if you want to go back to having sex 383 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: that you know, like literally one week after you have 384 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: had this operation without getting pregnant with your partner, you're 385 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: you know, do the math, You're you're welcome back to 386 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: seven grade. Basically, yes, So like for a good three months, 387 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 1: they're basically like, you need to really be careful and 388 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: they're going to get you in there um afterward as 389 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: part of this post operative care about you know, anywhere 390 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: from like a month and a half to three months 391 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: later to say, okay, give us a sperm sample and 392 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna see if you have any any guys swimming 393 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: around in there, and uh, if you pass, they will 394 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: say you've got no sperm, go forth and have fun um. 395 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: And if you don't pass, they'll say, okay, well we 396 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: need to to you know, keep safe a little longer 397 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: and then come back and give us another sample. And 398 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: they'll keep doing that until there's just no sperm found, 399 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: like zero no sperm, so zero percent sperm, I guess 400 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, am I reading 401 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: this correctly? Though? Because you can have sex seven days later, 402 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: it takes fifteen to twenty ejaculations yet they check you 403 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: out six to twelve weeks later. Yeah, they're saying, like 404 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: you behave as if you did before your vasectomy for 405 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: six to twelve weeks. Like if your wife or your 406 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: partners on the pill, she should probably stay on the 407 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: pill for six to twelve weeks until you get the 408 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: all clear if you use condoms, keep using condoms, and 409 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: during that time when you have sex, there is that 410 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: risk that you will still get pregnant until you get 411 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: that all clear from a sperm test that finds no sperm. Right, 412 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: But is that because they assume it will take six 413 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: to twelve weeks to have those twenty ejaculations. I got you, 414 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: I got you. I don't know, because that does seem 415 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: like a really long time, doesn't it. Well, I mean 416 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: that's why I said, welcome back to seventh grade. If 417 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: you want to knock that out in a week, I'm 418 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: glad you went back and explain that. I thought you 419 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,959 Speaker 1: were what you were saying, like you're worried about getting 420 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: someone pregnant. I can say this in a grown up way. 421 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: Does that mean you can masturbate twenty times in a 422 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: week and clear out your system and you're you'll be good? 423 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: To go or is it really like you really need 424 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: to think about this six weeks later to twelve weeks later. 425 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I would guess if you boasted to 426 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: your urologist that twenty ejaculations is not going to take 427 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: you six weeks, they might say, okay, well, schedule lists 428 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: for three weeks from now or four weeks or whatever. 429 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: You know. I would think, so, yeah, yeah, I would guess, 430 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: so all right, because they have like a wall of 431 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: fame in the office. Right, it's just covered here in 432 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: two days. Um, so yeah, I fifteen to twenty ejaculations 433 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: and ejaculations and ejaculation, right, it doesn't it doesn't have 434 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: to just be through intercourse or coitus, I think, is 435 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: what the kids call it. That is true. How many 436 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: times have we said ejaculation in this episode? More than ten? 437 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: I would say, So you want to take another break 438 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: and then come back and talk about some of the 439 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: risks involved, because there are risks, it's true, but they're 440 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: just fairly small. Yeah, let's get let's do that and 441 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: get back to it. M Okay. So when you cut 442 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: into a scrotum, when you cut a part of an 443 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: internal network of tissues, um and steal it back up 444 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: and called it as it. There are risks UM, even 445 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: though you're not under the risk of general anesthesia. UM, 446 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: you could conceivably get an infection at the incision site. 447 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: UM that you can get blood clots um inside of 448 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: the scrotum, Blood can show up in your semen, your 449 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: scrotum can become bruised. All of these things, at least 450 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: the first few that I mentioned are stuff that you 451 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: probably will get as a result of a vasectomy, but 452 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: they're going to clear up fairly quickly. And again that 453 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: bag of frozen Peace can really help with the inflammation 454 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: the tile and all or advil come and help with 455 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: everything else. There are some some actual possible longer term 456 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: complications that you should be aware of though. Two. Yeah, 457 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: there's a very small percentage I think one to two 458 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: people who have chronic pain after the surgery. UM. And 459 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: these are the people in this category or the part 460 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: of the percentage of people who one day might want 461 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: to get this reverse because of that chronic pain. UH. 462 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: An abnormal cyst called a UH spermato seal, Yeah, I 463 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, that could develop UH in the coiled 464 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: tube located at the upper part of the testicle UH 465 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: that collects and transports that sperm. But these are, like 466 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: we said, these are down. If you're down in the 467 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: low single percentage points, it's you know, considered very low 468 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: risk UM. And you know, the the upshot of her 469 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: the UM. The upside of it, I should say, is 470 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: that again, UM, you actually will probably experience, at least 471 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: as far as some studies have found, UH, an increase 472 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: in sexual satisfaction. Because cutting your vast difference has nothing 473 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: to do with hormones. That has nothing to do with UM, 474 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: your ability to get an erection, your ability to ejaculate. 475 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: There's another one UM instead. Again, it's just removing sperm 476 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: from the equation. That that's it. That's right. UH. Testosterone, 477 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: don't worry about that. That is produced in the test 478 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: is like the sperm. But there's a different kind of cell. 479 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: It's called the late late egg cell or the lighting cell. 480 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: I like the second one better, let's go with that, 481 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,959 Speaker 1: the lighting cell UM. But it goes it has a 482 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: one way trip. It goes directly from the tests into 483 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: the bloodstream. It does not go through the vast deference. 484 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: There is no impact whatsoever on your testosterone. UH. In 485 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: sex drive and in fact, it may actually increase your 486 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: sexual desire. Um. They've done studies. It had one in 487 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: Germany that said that, uh that if you've had a vasectomy, 488 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: you have a greater or at least they reported greater 489 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: satisfaction than the control with orgasm, with sexual desire, with 490 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: satisfaction of intercourse with erectile function. Spontaneity, that's a big one. Yeah. 491 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of it may just be psychological, 492 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: like all right, um, I'm free, I don't have to 493 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: worry about this anymore, so that that'll probably increase all 494 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: kinds of happiness. Yeah, exactly. I get the impression that 495 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: that is um from this German study from I think 496 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen. Um. They they surveyed both men 497 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: with vasectomies and their partners, uh, and found that the 498 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: partners were like, yeah, actually it's a little more arousing. 499 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: The actual act of sex didn't change for me at all, 500 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: but there's something, there's something going on here, And I 501 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: think I would chalk that up to spontaneity and not 502 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: having to stop to like put on a condom or 503 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, feeling freer because you didn't have to take 504 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: a pill that day. That kind of thing. It wasn't like, doc, 505 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. We started doing some crazy stuff. 506 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: Have you ever done it in a target changing? Oh no, no, no, 507 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: don't tell your doctor that. So um, well, we said 508 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: it's you know, a thousand dollars, which is, like you said, 509 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: nothing to sneeze at all. But compared to tubal ligation, 510 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: which is six thousand dollars at least, um, it's much cheaper. 511 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: The thing is, in the United States, insurance companies don't 512 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: have to cover vasectomies. They do have to cover tubal 513 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: ligation procedures. And it's probable that that accounts in addition 514 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: to the patriarchy that you mentioned full stop. Um, in 515 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: addition to that full stop some people just being cheap 516 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: and saying like no, I mean like we can get 517 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: a tubal ligation for like fifty bucks and you know, 518 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: rather than vasectomy for a thousand dollars. And if there's 519 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: any man out there who does not want to get 520 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: a vasectomy, he's going to hammer that point home every 521 00:30:54,440 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: chance he gets until he went he gets his way. Yeah. Maybe, uh, 522 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: we mentioned people getting wanting these reverse About six percent 523 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: of people who get a vasectomy end up wanting that reversal. 524 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: Like we said, some of those come from the chronic 525 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: pain category, and other people you know, want to have 526 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: kids and decide, oh I've made a great mistake. Um, 527 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: that'll cost you between five and fifteen grand and it'll 528 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: take four to six hours. And even when you do, uh, 529 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: if it's considered you know, quote unquote successful, your pregnancy 530 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:34,479 Speaker 1: success rate UM is between thirty and moving forward. So 531 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: some people say, just go I v F. Then if 532 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: you want to do that and get that sperm directly 533 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: from the testicles, uh, because as a much better success rate, 534 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: you can do that if you want. That'll still cost 535 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: you a bundalow IVF. It's not cheap, yeah, but it's 536 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: a lot less invasive and permanent than reversing your vasectomy. Right, 537 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: that's right. Um, Remember how we said that vasectomes are 538 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: like effective or something like that, they have like a 539 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: one percent fail your rate. I think we said that 540 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: that failure rate comes very often from something called reconalization. 541 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: Did you see that part? I don't think it's all 542 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: that part. So reconalization is where the vast deference grows 543 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: back together. It creates new tissue that basically go around 544 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: the stitches or the clamps or the cauterization and grows 545 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: new tubes that seek out and connect with the other 546 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: end of the vast difference and reconnect. It's which is 547 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: it just goes to show you that nature finds a way. 548 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: But again, O, man is it? Life almost had it? Um. 549 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: But again this is really really rare. And apparently the 550 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: positioning of the to the separate ends of the vast 551 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: difference has a huge effect on that too, Like you 552 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: don't want to leave them anywhere near each other, you know, Oh, 553 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: I see you over there. And one of the things 554 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: about that reversible vasectomy UM, like apparently that's a holy 555 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: grail in neurology. Uh, And they're looking at ways to 556 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: to basically temporarily UM create a vasectomy. There's stuff called 557 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: reversible inhibition of sperm under guidance. It's a type of 558 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: gel that you can put into the vast deference and 559 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: then it has to be flushed out later on UM 560 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: to remove it, and then all of a sudden, it's 561 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: like your vasectomy was reversed. Yeah. That this falls under 562 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: the same category of like simplicity, Like I imagine they 563 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: were trying to think of an easy way to reverse this, 564 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: and somebody was like, hey, you have any gum, You 565 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: have any chewing gum? Right, we could, we could clog 566 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: up that tube. And that's basically all they're doing. They're 567 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: clogging the tube with a gelled implant, and uh, yeah, 568 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. Better make sure that 569 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: that clog is pretty tight. Yes, apparently that has a 570 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: failure rate from one Indian study in two thousand nine 571 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: of four percent, where again of vasectomy as one percent. Yeah, 572 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: I think safety is the concern. They're right, absolutely right. 573 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: So I saw it explained as with a with a 574 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: pill with women UM, the control group in when you're 575 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: figuring out safety is pregnant women and UM pregnancy is 576 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,959 Speaker 1: riskier than the side effects are complications from taking the pill. 577 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: So the pill wins out. It's safer, it's justified, and 578 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: that's how it gets um UM the green light for 579 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: use UM. With a male pill, the control group is 580 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: just healthy men. There's no pregnancy, so the male pill 581 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: has to stop sperm production withoutside effects, like any side effects. 582 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: Because if you go beyond a healthy male um as 583 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: the which is the control group, then all of a 584 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: sudden it's less safe and it probably won't get approved, 585 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: so they're actually, yeah, there actually is. I'll though I 586 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: don't know how hard they're working on a mail pill. 587 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: Probably not so hard, although you never know. Is that funny? 588 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: I'd rather not say. Come on, um, all right, we'll 589 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: finish up with a little bit of talk on eugenics. 590 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: We did an episode many, many years ago about sterilizing addicts, 591 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: specifically uh, which is you go back and listen to 592 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: that episode. It's pretty interesting, probably somewhat outdated at this point, 593 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: but who knows. Yeah, just the use of addicts I 594 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: think is outdated, so but it's still it's a pretty 595 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: interesting episode. But this is a notion that started out 596 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: all the way back in the mid eighteen hundreds. Veterinarians 597 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: started experimenting with dogs, giving dogs vasectomys instead of castrating them, 598 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: and in the eighties started performing performing them on men. 599 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: And of course it didn't take very long for eugenicists 600 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: to get involved and say, hey, this is a great 601 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: thing because we can just essentially nouter crim pinals, we 602 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,959 Speaker 1: can neuter people who are mentally ill, we can neuter 603 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: people who are poor, and that will solve a lot 604 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 1: of the world's problems. Yeah, and so the eugenics movement 605 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: really took this up. Um. There was a guy named 606 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: Dr Harry Sharp in the United States. He was a 607 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 1: leading performer of vasectomys among eugenicists, among anybody. I would 608 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: guess he actually performed the first vasectomy for non medical reasons. Um. 609 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: It was on a nineteen year old inmate at a 610 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: reform school in Indiana who had complained of excessive masturbation, 611 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 1: and so Sharp game a vasectomy and said that he 612 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: quote became more of a sunny disposition, brighter of intellect, 613 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: and ceased to masturbate end quote. And um, he kind 614 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: of went from there within a decade on just a 615 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: tear where anybody who he deemed or the eugenics movement 616 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: deemed undesirable to the gene pool should be should receive 617 00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: a vasectomy. Yeah. Alongside him was an American named Albert 618 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: Osner published a book, or I guess at least a 619 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: pamphlet called Surgical Treatment of Habitual Criminals, Uh that advocated for, uh, 620 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: you know exactly what it says, making criminals sterile. Um. 621 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: And it was just sort of a time in the world, 622 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 1: and especially in the United States where they thought that 623 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: like I said, if you were in an almshouse, if 624 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: you were in an asylum, um, if you were certainly 625 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: if you were in prison, then it was a good 626 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: option to force a vasectomy on somebody. And this happened 627 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: to an alarming degree. I think through the end of 628 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: World War Two they estimated about three hundred and twenty 629 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: thousand UH forced sterilizations without consent. I did not see 630 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: a racial breakdown, but you can bet that it affected 631 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: people of color more than others. It just would make 632 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: sense because that's how it's kind of gone in this country. Yeah, 633 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: and it wasn't. I mean, America was deaf really an 634 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: early proponent leader of eugenics. But if all this sounds, 635 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, ghastly familiar, that whole thread was picked up 636 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: by the Nazis in the early nineteen thirties and they 637 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: sterilized countless people, both um through vasectomys and um through 638 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 1: tubal ligation. And apparently I didn't realize this. Switzerland had 639 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: early eugenics law, apparently the first eugenics law, and they 640 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: targeted the roma, and the roma could were still subject 641 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: to involuntary vasectomys up until nineteen seventy two in Switzerland, 642 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: isn't that insane? Yeah, that's uh, that's shameful. And by 643 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: the way, when I said it made sense that they 644 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: forced sterilization probably on people of color more you know 645 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: how I meant it? Right? Everyone Sure, it didn't mean 646 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: that made sense in any kind of ethical way. It 647 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: made sense because that's how people of color have been 648 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: treated in this country. I like the person who thought 649 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: that this had to have been their first episode and 650 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: now explained it to that one person. Just want to 651 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: clear that up. Alright, good, everybody knows chuck. So ending 652 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: it on eugenics is kind of a sour note. So 653 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: let's talk about one more old timey thing, um medical procedure. 654 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: It is misguided, but it's not nearly as bad as 655 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: vasectomys for eugenics. Um. There's an Austrian andrew chronologist named 656 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: Eugene Steinuk, and he said, I've got this great idea. 657 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: If I cut just one vast difference, the other one 658 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: will still be able to contribute sperm to the seamen, 659 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: but the severed vest difference will give up on sperm 660 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: and go into overdrive for producing hormones like testosterone, which 661 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: will give men just this huge boost of virility, and 662 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: he started going crazy performing it on everybody who would 663 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: step up. Yeah. Basically like, if you want to increase 664 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: your sex drive, you can have this elective procedure. Uh. 665 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: And people like Sigmund Freud and writer William Yates use 666 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: this uh procedure and under went this procedure to boost 667 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: their sex drive. Yeah. And apparently, um, they were like, well, 668 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: actually testosterone works totally differently and that what you just 669 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: did all these people doesn't work at all. So I 670 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: guess Steinock went retired in disgrace. Um. And if you 671 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: thought that was a pretty fun factoid, prepare for this one, Chuck. 672 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: I think you should take us out with us. Okay. Uh, 673 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: day found a statistic because and who knows that this 674 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: is correlation or not, but there is a statistic because 675 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: you you're supposed to lay around for a couple of days. 676 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: When you're laying around for a couple of days, maybe 677 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: you're reading a book, educating yourself, or maybe you're just 678 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: watching a lot of television. But didn't they find that. 679 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: I think the finding was that the procedure went up 680 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: a lot during March Madness in c double a basketball 681 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: tournament time, so men could have an excused to lay 682 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: around and watch it. Is that right? A thirty percent 683 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: increase in vasectomy procedures in the US during the first 684 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: round of the n c a A A basketball tournament. They 685 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: call it vast madness. I gotta know if that's true. 686 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: If that's why, gotta know? Well, the only way to 687 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: find out, Chuck, is to undergo of a sectomy procedure 688 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: and ask your eurologists during the middle of it, because 689 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 1: you won't be under general ESTI anesthesia, it'll be local 690 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: mhm uh do you got anything else? I've got nothing else? Okay, well, 691 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: Chuck said he's got nothing else, which means, of course 692 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: it's time for a listener mail. That's right. Uh. This 693 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: is from our buddy Mark Koontz. Mark and Gayl Counts 694 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: are longtime listeners and and real life pals of mind. 695 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: They came to our show in Cleveland, and Gayl is 696 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: a longtime movie crusher. But Mark wrote us an email 697 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: about suicide Awareness Month, which it is right now. Uh. 698 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: And this is a Mark is you know he's out 699 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: there doing like the tough work. Great dude. Uh. September 700 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: is back to school season, guys in Suicide Prevention Month, 701 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: which means you. Suicide prevention is on my mind more 702 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: than usual. As know. I'm a licensed art therapist at 703 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: Clark County Educational Service Center in Springfield, Ohio, helps schools 704 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: meet the mental health needs of thousands of students. Most 705 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: people think of suicide prevention with youth means focusing on 706 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: trauma and handling and handing out hotline information, and of 707 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: course sometimes you do those things. But my favorite suicide 708 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: prevention program and the reason I'm writing is called Sources 709 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 1: of Strength. That is a youth led suicide prevention program 710 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: that has been used in schools across the U. S 711 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: and Canada and Australia. Sources of Strength are things like 712 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: positive friends, mentors, and mental health. These are some of 713 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: the protective factors that we can rely on when we're 714 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: stressed or to help us get through a crisis. UH 715 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: And for the past year I've been trying to get 716 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: sources of strength and every single one of my county 717 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: schools and with funding and support from the Ohio Suicide 718 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: Prevention Foundation and Prevention First with an exclamation point, schools 719 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: in Ohio can implement sources of Strength at no cost. 720 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: So if your list some thing he just want to 721 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: Grant for like tin Grand or something like that, which 722 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: is genius grant. He's won it before, I think, but 723 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: he says. If you're listening to this and you're in Ohio, 724 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: you can learn by visiting Sources of Strength Ohio dot org. 725 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,959 Speaker 1: Even if you're not in Ohai, you should still visit 726 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: the Sources of Strength dot org website and learn about 727 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: the sources eight protective factors. Also, adults need protective factors too. 728 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: I'd like to thank both of you for always advocating 729 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: for mental health as well as spreading useful and be 730 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: official information to all of us, and for being positive 731 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: people in the world. Your voices mean so much to 732 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: so many. Greatest thanks from your old pal Mark Counts. 733 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: So hey Mark and Gale and your cute pets. I 734 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: appreciate the work you're doing. Yeah, same here at Mark. UM. 735 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: That's magnificent stuff. Thanks for writing in to let everybody know. UM, 736 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: if you want to write in like marketed and just 737 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: basically say I'm a hero without saying I'm a hero, 738 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 1: we would love to hear from you and tell everybody 739 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: about out that you can wrap it up spanking on 740 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: the bottom and send it off to stuff podcast at 741 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: iHeart radio dot com. Stuff you Should Know is a 742 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: production of I heart Radio. 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