1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Marcowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: Have you heard of this concept of girl dinner? The 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: basic premise that if a woman is eating alone, she's 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: having something random, like a bowl of cereal or tortilla 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: chips for dinner. I just spent ten days in Michigan 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: living alone without my family, and I can tell you 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: that the image of the single life drinking martinis in 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: ball gowns at nice restaurants, I mean that's not even close. 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: I ate really badly alone on a couch. What's interesting 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: about this is it's the man who is the stabilizing 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: force here. 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: Right. 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: We always think of women as being the good societal 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: influence on a man, But here's the case of men 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: doing it for women. Something about being in a relationship 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: causes you to have the real meals for dinner instead 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: of like half an apple and a bag of ches. 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: Apparently the original poster about girl dinners was eating grapes, cornishans, 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: bread and cheese, which actually all sounds amazing to me. 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: As fast as girl dinner became a trend, of course, 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: there was the inevitable backlash. It was racist. Who knows 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: why it promoted stereotypes and gender roles. Blah blah. It's 23 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: somehow opposed body positivity because I guess the girls are 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: eating enough. 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: The thing is obviously, men left to their own devices 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: probably don't do that great food wise either. I know 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: my husband loves to get taco bell with the kids 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: when I'm away, because I just wouldn't do that right. 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: I've talked a lot about all the positives of being 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: in a relationship and the way it benefits you in 32 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: so many different ways. The way we eat is a 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: part of that. We all understand that girl dinners or 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: boy taco bell nights are not. 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: Good in the long term. 36 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: And yes, of course, there are plenty of single people 37 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: eating very healthy. I'm not taking anything away from them 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: on that. And I'm sure there are some coupled people 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: eating popcorn and a cucumber for dinner. But being in 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: a couple elevates you. It makes you strive to be better. 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: You're not eating your grilled chicken on a fork over 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: the sink, and yes, I've done that. None of us 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: are perfect, but we're all trying. 44 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: To be better. 45 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: Coming up next and interview with John Cardillo. Join us 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: after the break. 47 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 4: guest today is my good friend John Cardillo, conservative commentator 49 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 4: and former NYPD. 50 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: Hi John, Hey, Carol, good to finally be with you. 51 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 3: So nice to have you on. 52 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: So a running joke in our group of friends is 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: nobody that knows what you do. 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: So it was great when I was like, Cas, should 55 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: I introduce you? You're like, you know, conservative commentator, whatever. 56 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: I'm a boring private equity guy these days. That's that's it. 57 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: I'm you know, and I cause trouble on Twitter. But yeah, 58 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: I love that. I love how you guys bust my 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: chops on that. It makes my day every time with you. 60 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 4: We were at an event one time and we were 61 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 4: going around the table and everybody was introducing themselves and 62 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 4: I was sitting next to Dave Rubin and so as 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 4: we're like going around the table and everyone's you know, 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 4: I'm whatever, and I this is my job. I wrote 65 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: to Ruben like, I can't wait to find out what 66 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: John cardemod remember that, And then when it got to you, 67 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: we still didn't really know. 68 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: Oh do I kept it as cryptic as possible. 69 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, you were like you know, Yeah, it was definitely. 70 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: I would say CIA, but it's not Cia. It's something 71 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: way beyond that. It's masade, like, let's be real. 72 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: So you're also known in our group of friends as 73 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: like the og Floridian. A lot of us, our crew, 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: we moved here in the last you know, two years, 75 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: well Rubin and I last two years. Lisa Booth a 76 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 4: little bit before that, Josh Hammer, Dave Ree Boy a 77 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: little bit before that. But you have been here, and 78 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: Jordan Shaffille also around that same time. But you've been 79 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 4: here the longest, and you know your genius. 80 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: How did you know? How did you know to come 81 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 3: to Florida? What was the draw? 82 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was really a combination of things. Right. 83 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: So February twenty third, a few weeks ago, right, was 84 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: my twentieth year in Florida, and I had been in 85 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: Miami in Brickll area for about eleven years and up 86 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: in Fort Lauderdale for about the last nine. I love 87 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: it up here. By the way, I'm on the east 88 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: side as well, which is a lot more red. Everybody 89 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: thinks Broward County so blue, and it is right mathematically, 90 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: But on the east side, when you're east of federal 91 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: it's it's pretty red. I mean, you've got Trump and 92 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: the Santa's flags on pretty much every boat on the 93 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: intra coastal over here. For me, it was a combination 94 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: of things, you know, after leaving the NYPD for the 95 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: private sector, just wanting to leave New York after nine 96 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: to eleven. Candidly right, I left three years after nine 97 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: to eleven, And Florida was a place that I didn't 98 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: only come on vacation when I was a kid. My 99 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: dad was essentially a national sales manager for an industrial 100 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: company and Florida was one of his lucrative territories. And 101 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: I was down here all the time. Is A and 102 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: then some cousins that I was very close to, and 103 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: at and uncle. My aunt uncle at the time had 104 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 2: worked for Motorola, which had a big presence in South Florida. 105 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: They moved down and so we would come down and 106 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: visit them quite a bit. And I always loved it, 107 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: you know. I always had really good memories, really good 108 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: times in Florida as a kid. So it was a 109 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 2: place I would vacation and college and then as an adult. 110 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: And for me, it was just a pretty logical choice. 111 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: I was comfortable with it. I knew it. The Brickell 112 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: area of Miami was vertical, right, so a lot of 113 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: high rises. So when we got in New York City, 114 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: it was a really comfortable transition. Yeah, couple of friends 115 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: had made the move and so that was that was 116 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: my reasoning and the catalyst from you move in download interesting. 117 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 4: So it's funny because we looked at Brickle but I 118 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: found it's just like not that walkable. And I guess 119 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: we have kids, so it wasn't, you know, quite as 120 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: the picture I had in my head. 121 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, the vertical thing, it's true. It really does. 122 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 4: Remind me of New York and so much of it 123 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: feels very New york Ish. But so it's funny because 124 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: again you pre date the whole mad rush to Florida 125 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 4: that happens in the last four years. We're really at 126 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 4: the anniversary basically right now of pandemic lockdowns and it's 127 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 4: changed a lot. 128 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: How do you feel about that? 129 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: I mean, are there pluses and minuses or is it 130 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: one way or another? 131 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: Ye know, I wish some people carol at a time 132 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: machine to see what Brickle look like. If you go 133 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: to brickl now, it's a world class city. Right. I mean, 134 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: it's new, and it's hot, and it's upscale, and you've 135 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: got every shop you have in Manhattan and Midtown there. 136 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: Right when I got to Brickle in two thousand and four, 137 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: there were maybe three real high rises. The Four Seasons 138 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: Tower that we've all been new right together or separately, 139 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: was up in that. I believe at the time that 140 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: was the tallest building on the East coast of the 141 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 2: United States outside of New York. It's like eight hundred 142 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: and something feet. So there was that, and there was 143 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: the condo building I lived in and the one I 144 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: was moving into that was being built. Everything else Downtown 145 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: had a couple of tall buildings, but the skyline of 146 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: Miami Downtown Miami was maybe maybe six or seven notable buildings. 147 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: Now there are just dozens, and so they literally built 148 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: a city around me. I mean, one of the reasons 149 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: I left Brickle. 150 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: Was John is here, Let's do it. 151 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: Let's do it. You know. One of the reasons I 152 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: left was because the traffic got so insane from all 153 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: the construction, and when they started to put up that 154 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: mall in Brickall, it would take me some days, thirty 155 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: forty five minutes just to get the publics at the 156 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: grocery store, its way with traffic. So I was ready. 157 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: You know, I had grown up in a city my 158 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: whole life. I grew up in New York City, grew 159 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: up in Queens, than lived in Manhattan. Was now in 160 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: another city, and I was getting more into the old 161 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: Florida kind of sleepy Florida, right, and where I live 162 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: in Fort Lauderdale, now there's a lot, a lot of 163 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: boating and fishing. 164 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: And I think if you as like a cowboy, you're 165 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: like living the text lifestyle in Florida. 166 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, people don't realize. You go to like the 167 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: Baby right fifteen minutes west of here, and there's rodeos. 168 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: It's it's horse country. 169 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: Right, So what about the people like, has the like 170 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 4: culture of Florida. 171 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: Changed or the Well, yeah, I think it's that neutral, right, 172 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: It depends what you like. When I moved down, if 173 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: you didn't speak Spanish in brickl in Miami really anywhere, 174 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: I still. 175 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: Feel like that. 176 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you it was a lot worse. 177 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: I mean there were days I'd walk into Walgreens where 178 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 2: there wasn't one English speaking employee. 179 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 4: I feel like my high school Spanish has not served 180 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: me well in Florida at all, Like, I have no 181 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: idea what's going on. It's not like nobody's asking me 182 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 4: the directions to the library. 183 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really different. So culturally that was it. 184 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: Now I found Miami to be a lot like New York. 185 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: It's not. It's a little bit transient in many respects, 186 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: and people keep to themselves. So I always tell a story. 187 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: I've told our group and our text chain of story. 188 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: You know, when I lived in Miami, I didn't even 189 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: know my neighbors. When I lived in Brickle, I had 190 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 2: a nice group of people I do happy hour with, 191 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: but we were like acquaintances more than friends. But I 192 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: didn't really know my neighbors when I moved to Fort 193 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: very hard to believe. 194 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: You are like the world's most social guy. 195 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: I'm a social guy, but you'd be surprised, right. So 196 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: I knew the bartenders, and I knew that the Happy Aircraft. 197 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: But when I got to Fort Lauderdale. I moved to 198 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: Fort Lauderdale in July of twenty fifteen, I did Thanksgiving 199 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: dinner with we at a restaurant with a bunch of 200 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: my neighbors that November, like a few months later. So 201 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: it's really it depends where you go. But some of 202 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: the nicest, friendliest people I've ever met in my life 203 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: I've met down here in Florida. 204 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 4: We're going to take a quick break and be right 205 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 4: back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. 206 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: Do you miss New York ever? 207 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: You know? No? No, In fact, the last time I 208 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: was thinking about the the other day. The last time 209 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: I was in New York was Buck's engagement party, and 210 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: that was. 211 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: Sex and I we got to mention him in our cha. 212 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: So we moved down in the last two years. 213 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So Buck Sexton's engagement party was the last 214 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 2: time I was in New York. With that, I was 215 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: in New York with you guys, or I was in 216 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 2: New York at all. 217 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: Wow, that's what's a while? 218 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I'm sorry. And then I popped, I'm sorry, 219 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: my mistake and wait, no, that was that was twenty two. Yeah, 220 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: and then May of last year I came in for 221 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: a day. My mistake. May of last year, I came 222 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 2: in for a day for my nephew's high school graduation. 223 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 3: But you don't miss anything about it. 224 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: No, No, that's why I've been there twice in two 225 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: years and I forgot one of them right exactly. 226 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 4: So we're recording this a few days after the funeral 227 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 4: for a fallen police officer in New York. What do 228 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: you think when you see stuff like that or the 229 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: way that everything happened. He was killed by somebody who 230 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 4: had been released from prison. Many times, this is not 231 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: a political show, but I feel like that is such 232 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: a cultural touch point, especially right now, where people don't 233 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 4: feel safe, and that's you know, that could be political, 234 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: but it's very much societal. So what do you say, 235 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: what do you think about that? Can New York come back? 236 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: You know, not not at the rate they're going, right, So, 237 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: you know, having been to too many police funerals, having 238 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: responded one of my first month maybe on the job 239 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: to the murder of a copper graduated the academy at 240 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: we Academy with me Sean McDonald. He was shot in 241 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: the head responding to an alarm burglary alarm that turned 242 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: out to be an actual alarm robbery. Another police officer 243 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: shot in our command on the Grand Concourse, shot and killed. 244 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: You know, I went to too many funerals and addressed uniform, 245 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: but this one of appeal. Jonathan Dillar now detective first grade. 246 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: Jonathan Dillar. I don't know if your viewers know this, 247 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: but when New York City police officers are killed in 248 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: the line of duty, the custom is at the funeral 249 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: they're then promoted to detective first grade, the highest rank 250 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: of detective, so that their families can receive a better benefit, 251 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: much much higher pension payout for the wife and in 252 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 2: this case, the young child. 253 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 4: Right. 254 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: But you know, Carol, even in those situations and every 255 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: depth is tragic. You didn't see the perps. The murderers 256 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: were not arrested twenty one times in release, right. I 257 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 2: don't think you can analyze that issue without being somewhat political. 258 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: And the problem in New York City is this, and 259 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: I'll try to condense it. It's when the District Attorney's office 260 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: won't prosecute, and they've been very clear. The das in 261 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: each borough have been very clear they're going to take 262 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: this radical, far left approach and not prosecute certain crimes. 263 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: Bad guys are emboldened, but worse worse for public safety, 264 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: the NYPD stops making arrests because they can't incur the 265 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: overtime the cops will get in trouble. The commanders will 266 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: get in trouble for incurring the overtime when they know 267 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: the DA's office is going to keay the case. This 268 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: is such a public safety crisis at which more people 269 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: were talking about this, but they're not not enough. People 270 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: are talking about the whys. They're talking about the what happened, 271 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: but not why it's happening. 272 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: What would you say is our largest cultural problem or like, 273 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 4: do you think that this plays into that? 274 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's I think it's you know, there're 275 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: several right. I think we saw this with the antifen 276 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: in Black Lives Matter riots. There's this insanely permissive attitude 277 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: towards crime. It's just permissive when you see videos every 278 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: day people walking into Macy's and Walgreens and Publics and 279 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: every other store out there, no matter where you were 280 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 2: in the country, just loading up backpacks and garbage bags 281 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: full of merchandise and nobody's stopping them. And then you 282 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: hear the story of the employee that tried to stop them, 283 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: being the wire or the police officer being reprimanded for 284 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: using too much force to put on handcuffs. When you 285 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: start to tell bad guys that what they're doing is 286 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: not going to be punished. They're going to do more 287 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: of it. I mean, this doesn't take the greatest sociologists 288 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 2: in the history of mankind of figure out right. And 289 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: when you combine that with prosecutors, wo won't prosecute? What 290 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: do they think is going to happen? 291 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: Do you think it's solvable? Is there anything that we 292 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: can do? 293 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think the blueprint is there that 294 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: I think. You know, that's a great question, because not 295 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: only is it solvable, you think a guy like me 296 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: that came out of the police Academy was in the 297 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: police Academy under David Dinkins, come out under really Julian 298 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: Rudy Giuliani, Carol, When when we implemented broken windows, when 299 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: we implemented Rudy's policing strategies and Bill Bratton's at the 300 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: time policing strategies, we saw we noticed the difference on 301 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: the street in about two weeks. Really, it wasn't six months. 302 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: You lived in New York, you were up there, yell 303 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: on top of it. 304 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was teens though, Yeah, but. 305 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: We noticed it in weeks. As cops, the bad guys 306 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: weren't as brave anymore. When we drove by, they weren't 307 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: just sitting at the cars. They weren't throwing washing machines. 308 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: True story. I had a washing machine and a refriguer 309 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: and to throw off broof tops at me. They weren't 310 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: doing that because now they knew that were we held accountable. 311 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: It wasn't realized it was that best used to call it. 312 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: We used to call it airmail. 313 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: It meant that. 314 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: I didn't realize you could see the change then. I 315 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 4: thought it was like a year's long process. 316 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: Well, statistically right, trickle down statistically took about a year. 317 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: But I can tell you having been on patrol at 318 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: four to twelve every night in the South Bronx, the 319 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: busiest times you started to see I'm not saying it 320 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: was a sweeping change right within a couple of weeks, 321 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: those bad guys on the corner, Yeah, they were a 322 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: lot less bold. You started to see it very quickly. 323 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: Wow, that's very interesting. I wonder you know. 324 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: The thing about having a strategy that worked is the 325 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: insanity that you need to be living under to not 326 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: go back to it. It's like, hey, I know you've 327 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: got called in the National Guard into the New York 328 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 4: City subway. 329 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: But what if what if you did. 330 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 4: This other thing that totally worked, you know, not that 331 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: long ago, and tried that instead, But no, they go 332 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: for National Guarden. 333 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: That's somehow the better option. 334 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: You can't do anything. Who aren't empowered or allowed to 335 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: do anything. And to your point, that other thing that 336 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: works is the incredibly radically a novel idea of forcing 337 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: the law and prosecuting them. There's no you know, that's 338 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: why all jokes aside. That's why it's so frustrating me 339 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: and Bernie Carrick, the former commissioner, a friend of mine, 340 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: and I talked to countless guys and girls who are 341 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: either still on the job or retired, and you bang 342 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: your head against the wall because you're like, they know 343 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: exactly what they need to do. It doesn't cost a 344 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: penny more than anything they're doing, and they refuse to 345 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: do it right. 346 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 4: But you know, for us, we get to live in 347 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: Florida and we see action. 348 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: Taken all the time. I didn't even know this was possible. 349 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: I didn't know things like this were possible, like the 350 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 4: recent thing that our you know, Governor DeSantis did where 351 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 4: there was a lot of conversation around squatters and he 352 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: was like, Okay, well here we go. I'm not going 353 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: to have squatters in the States. It's illegal. 354 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: Now, Like, oh, it's that simple. People could just fix problems. 355 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 4: I was unaware until this, until now, until I came 356 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: to Florida, I didn't know that people can just fix 357 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: problems and make bad things go away. I didn't realize 358 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 4: politicians and government officials can actually do that. 359 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 3: Was it always like that in Florida? 360 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: Or really? 361 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: Is he different? 362 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: No? I think it was because in Florida you don't 363 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: have to the degree that you have it in the 364 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: Blue states. Is even your Democrat voters down here are 365 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: law and order voters? You know? I would always say 366 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: when the Democrats would do defund the police, and they 367 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: would try to act like that would also creep into Florida. 368 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: I it wouldn't, because you take areas in West Broward 369 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: County and these are nice areas and you know, up scale, 370 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: upper middle class, staffluent areas. Yeah, maybe they vote blue, 371 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: but you know what else they vote for. They also 372 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: vote for their hoa dollars to pay for that off 373 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 2: duty police officer in the marked car to patrol their 374 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: hoa at night. So there's a much different mindset down 375 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: here with regards to law and order. I think it 376 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 2: also has a bit to do with I don't know 377 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: how much shout a bit to do with the fact 378 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 2: that this has always been a haven for a tired 379 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: cops from around the country. There's no state income tax 380 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: and all that fun stuff, and so uh, I think culturally, 381 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: what we see in places like New York and Chicago 382 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: and Detroit and Baltimore, you just wouldn't see here, even 383 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: in your blue cities. 384 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: Right, So what do you do on weekends? What's what's 385 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 4: a John Cardillo weekend? 386 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: Like? Oh, oh, you guys, not right, A clay I 387 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: do know, a lot of clay shooting, a lot of 388 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: regular shooting. I'm so proud that I got you guys 389 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: into guns. I'm one of my greatest accomplishments. 390 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 4: You really, you were such an inspiration getting us armed. 391 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 3: You you played a giant role in that. 392 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: You introduced us to your guy who's you know now 393 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 4: our guy? Yeah, Manny at Palm Beach Tacticals. We haven't 394 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 4: we haven't come to the polo with you yet. That's 395 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 4: that's something that's what. 396 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: I do on Sunday. You know what's so crazy? Everybody 397 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: whenever I say that, I get beat up. Oh it's 398 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: so pretentious. Take your horself somewhat. If I put up 399 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: a picture of a polo match on Twitter, right now, 400 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 2: take your horse golf somewhere else, horse scof you weren't 401 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: a regular guy. I'm like, I just I have horses. 402 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: I like to go to watch the horses. You know, yeah, 403 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: horse golf, So I do a lot of that. Or 404 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: I go to the beach club and you know, I 405 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: have a couple of kasotas. But that's the cool thing 406 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: about Florida, right There's so much to do and the scene. 407 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: You know, you you could be in my neighborhood, go 408 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: out and fish, and within fifteen minutes you're in horse country. 409 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: Within an hour you've got some of the best out 410 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 2: there shooting ranges in America. It's just it's such a 411 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: cool place to live. If you're into anything like that 412 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 2: and doing stuff outdoors on the weekend, do. 413 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: You feel like you've made it? 414 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, you know, I felt like I was 415 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: a Floridian after five years, after fifteen, I knew I 416 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: was never leaving. I was like hard for life to 417 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: get a little better than this. 418 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: You know, right, But as a like have you made it? 419 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: Like? Is that? 420 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: Is that all that it takes to have a happy 421 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 3: flow already in life? 422 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: I think you find none of us know what you do. 423 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: I mean that that's got to be a goal. 424 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 2: I think I think you find the stuff. Look, you know, 425 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 2: I did media for a long time. I still love it. 426 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: I do heads like this a few times a week 427 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: and and stay abreast of the industry. But I was 428 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: fortunate in that I had an expertise in the firearms space, 429 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: tactical gear space. An opportunity presented itself to start pushing 430 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: those products out in large scale, and I grabbed it 431 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: and it turned out to be a very good decision. 432 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I can't really think of anything 433 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: I would change about my life right now. So I 434 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 2: guess I equate have you made it with more being 435 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: happy about where you are than how many how many zeros? 436 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah, I mean, I look, you always want 437 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: more business, right, everybody wants to do always do better. 438 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: But I don't if I wake up in the morning 439 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 2: and say uh and and regret anything, I'm pretty energy. 440 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: I love it. 441 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 4: And here with your best tip for my listeners on 442 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: how they can live a John Cardillo life and improve their. 443 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 2: Lives start by moving to Florida. And all kidding aside. 444 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: Somebody once said to me, and it was the greatest 445 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: piece of advice I've ever gotten. You can't steal second 446 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: with your foot on first. And there really is no 447 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 2: conventional path when something I'm a big believer in the 448 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: sixth sense, and I've gut feeling, Carol, and when something too, 449 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: when something starts to feel wrong and something else starts 450 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: to feel right, explore it and if it starts to 451 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: feel really right, pursuit love it. 452 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for coming on, John, love talking 453 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: to you. I have to come to Horset Golf sometime. 454 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely, talk to you soon. 455 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us on the Carol 456 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: Marcowitz Show. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.