1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: And welcome back, George and OORI with you. Katie Beacher 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: with US, licensed professional counselor and Medical and Emotional Intuitive 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: for more than thirty years of experience. She has a 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: very unique way of working with clients, creating a very detailed, 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: individualized physical, emotional, and spiritual report and symbolic painting before 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: even seeing them, talking with them or seeing a photograph, 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: using only their name and age. Heal from Within an 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: Intuitive Guide to Wellness as Katie's first book, Katie, welcome back. 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: How have you been? 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: I've been great. Thanks George, It's nice to talk to 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: you again. 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: How did this all happen for you? How did you 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: become an intuitive? 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: I think, well, no, I know, I was born that way. 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: I remember being, you know, having very very young memories 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: three and four of just sort of hearing voices in 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: my head, feeling safe and protected, knowing that there was 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: something else greater than me, kind of guiding me. And 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: my mom said that I had imaginary friends, which doesn't 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: surprise me, and I had names for them to you know, 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: to me. That was the start of me talking to 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: guides and spirits, and I just remember my parents had 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: a fight about eggs or something really stupid when I 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: was young, and I remember just hearing this voice saying, 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: these people are not equipped to raise you. You're going 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: to have to do it on your own. So that 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: was that was my first inkling that, you know, there 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: was something out there protecting me. And I also just 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: always knew things about people, and no one could explain 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: how I knew things, or you know, I just like 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: kind of tuned into people's energy and was able to 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: see family dynamics that I knew were not okay even 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: as a young child, and decided that I wanted to 35 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: live my life differently. So and then when I got older, 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: I picked up a lot of negative energies and that 37 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: was really scary, but that also helped me to find 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: the positive parts of my gifts and use them to 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: help other people. 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: How did you pick up the negative energies? 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: Well, it was more of a it was more of 42 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: a knowing. It was around the time I think I 43 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: was around ten when The Exorcist came out, and it 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: was the first time that I had really heard anyone 45 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: talk about possession or you know, satan or anything like that. 46 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: And we lived in a very old house. It was 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: eighteen seventy three, and I just foundered feeling terrified, especially 48 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 3: when I was alone and at night. And I actually 49 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: had this idea. I don't know if it's true or not, 50 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: but I had this idea that I slept under my covers, 51 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: with my head under my covers, that I would be 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: protected somethings. Yes, I still do it to this day, 53 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: which makes my husband laugh, but I don't feel unsafe 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: an they were, but still kind of do it. And 55 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: just remember feeling my body felt unsafe, and I had 56 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: a lot of thoughts of what if I was being 57 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: possessed and what would happen if I encountered that type 58 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: of energy. It was really literally terrifying, and it didn't 59 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: go away for several years. Thankfully, I had a therapist 60 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: that I could talk to who understood these things and 61 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: who didn't think I had three heads when I was 62 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: talking about them, and she was able to explain that 63 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: good and evil exists. And this may or may not 64 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: sound strange to some of your listeners, but she said 65 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: that there are people in the world who just who 66 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: do good things. You don't have to be special, but 67 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: just who are here to spread life, love and do 68 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: good things, and that the energy of evil tends to 69 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: try to be around them at a young age and 70 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: scare them because fear is a really powerful tool of evil, 71 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: and they don't want you to be tuned into God, 72 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: they don't want you to be tuned into love. So 73 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: if they keep you afraid, they can keep you from 74 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: using your spiritual gifts or being a good person. And 75 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: through that, I think a lot of people today too 76 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: are living in fear and it keeps them from being 77 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: their true, authentic selves. 78 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: And Katie, this evolution to become a medical intuitive was 79 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: caused by what. 80 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 3: It was actually well. I became a therapist in my 81 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: early twenties, and I always worked really intuitively, and I 82 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: kind of what I mean by that is when I 83 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: would work with a client and they would present with 84 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 3: a problem, the first thing I would do is just 85 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: sit and listen and kind of download information and let 86 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: my guides tell me more about this person what they needed. 87 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: And so I found myself surprisingly knowing a lot of 88 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: things about them before they told me, and I even 89 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: channeled their dead relatives during sessions. Accidentally, in one of 90 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: those times, I helped somebody get pregnant by channeling their grandmothers. 91 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: So that was a really cool story. But so it 92 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: started out that way, and then I realized that I 93 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: was always into medicine. My mom was a nurse. I 94 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: was always into that, and my mom got really sick 95 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: and I had to help the doctors with her. She 96 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: had a really bad stroke. So it helped me kind 97 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: of tune in more to her. And then I realized 98 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: that I just kept knowing things about people, and the 99 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: more I learned, the more I realized that I could 100 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: do and that I wanted to do it. 101 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: That's pretty intriguing, to be sure. Yes, definition now of 102 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: a medical intuitive is what. 103 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 3: It's somebody who can tune into another person's or their 104 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: own energy life. They can see things in a person's life. 105 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: They can see into their bodies. Often they can identify symptoms, traumas. 106 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: They I help people to figure out what they want 107 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: to do for a career, what's making them unhappy, what 108 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: makes them happy, what their skills are. I help people 109 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: with relationships a lot, because sometimes people will come to 110 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: me with a physical or emotional ailment, and during the report, 111 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: my guys will reveal that they're in a really unhappy 112 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: or abusive relationship, or that they really hate their job. 113 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: And it's those things that because maybe they're not able 114 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: to recognize it, or they're afraid or they're afraid of 115 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: doing something about it, it those symptoms are coming out 116 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: through their bodies. So there, it's kind of like that. 117 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: Isn't it? 118 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: It really is. But it's also a really healthy thing 119 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: because I like to teach people to use their bodies 120 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: symptoms as friends and to talk to them and basically say, 121 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: you know, why is this happening now? What do I need? 122 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: Why are you getting my attention? And that way we 123 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: don't always have to fight against things. We can listen 124 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: and use it for our health. And because a lot 125 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: of people just get really really afraid when they find 126 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: out that they have something like blind to be their cancer, 127 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: and I get it, you know, but it can also 128 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 3: be a wake up call. You know, maybe these people 129 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: for the first time start taking care of themselves and 130 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: start instead of taking care of every single other person 131 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: in their life and not setting boundaries. 132 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: Do you tell them the cures as well? Do you 133 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: simply just tell them what's wrong with them? 134 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: Well, it's illegal for anyone besides it after or a 135 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: medical test to give a diagnosis or to claim that 136 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: they can heal them. So I'm very careful in what 137 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: I do and say, like I'm able to identify symptoms 138 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: and they can confirm them. I you know, I can 139 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: say this sounds like it may be something like this, 140 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: and these are some things that I'm hearing can can help. 141 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 3: So physical, emotional, and spiritual things that can be helpful. 142 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: But in terms of true diagnosis or testing, I have 143 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: a lot of them. There are actually a couple natural 144 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: physicians that I refer to and they're able to get 145 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: more in depth information, help with treatment, confirm you know 146 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 3: what I've said. So I've been working with some of 147 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: these people for a really long time, so I always 148 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: try to get a report back and say, you know, 149 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: what did the doctors say? And it confirms what I said. 150 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: So that's nice, But you really have to be careful 151 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: about claiming to be able to diagnose or heal. 152 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: Katie, what is intuitive soul painting? What is that? 153 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: These are kind of special things that I created. And 154 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: sometimes with words, especially when you're intelligent, you can censor 155 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: your words so or you can sensor the words that 156 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: you're hearing so if you're trying to get to know 157 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: yourself or you're listening to your intuition and you hear 158 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: words in your head, it's kind of sometimes easy to 159 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: dismiss them or to intellectualize a problem. And symbolism is 160 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: something that people have been using for you know, eons, 161 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: whether it's hieroglyphics, whether it's whatever, but using so my 162 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 3: guys will tell me about a color, they'll tell me 163 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: about a maybe an insect or a figure or a 164 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: plant or something like that. When I'm communicating with a 165 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: person's energy and through that painting it's a watercolor painting, 166 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 3: I receive information about the person's body in their life. 167 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: And when I create reports sometimes I'm not really sure 168 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 3: who might see them, or I'm very conscious of someone 169 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: seeing the word trauma or abuse that can be really 170 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: sometimes triggering. So these things will often show up on 171 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: the paintings in the form of maybe you know red 172 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: areas in the in the second chakra, which has to 173 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: do with reproductive organs, or even if someone has been 174 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 3: physically abused, sometimes that red will show up in those 175 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: physical abuse areas, or if someone's going through anxiety, red 176 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: will show up up in the head and even just 177 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: the way that sometimes the legs are facing where the 178 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: arms are, or all kinds of things. Symbolically, people's issues 179 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: show up in the paintings and people find them really 180 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: fun and non threatening, and I interpret them, you know, 181 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: during our meetings, and they kind of look like a 182 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: five year old did them. So I was a little 183 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: apprehensive about using them at first, but people really really 184 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 3: like them and end up framing them. 185 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: I always believe that positivity goes a long way. What 186 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: do you think of that? 187 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: I absolutely agree, and that's why I try to really 188 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:47,359 Speaker 3: frame things in a positive light and not being a Pollyanna, 189 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 3: because you know, getting sick or having an accident or 190 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: having a mental illness is really serious and it can 191 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: be scary. But if you can look at things in 192 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: a way of maybe like talking about before, sort of 193 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: why did this come into my life? What are some 194 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 3: of the strengths maybe of having attention deficit disorder, or 195 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: of being you know, on the autism spectrum, or even 196 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: being empathic. There's a lot of strength to that, and 197 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 3: then also things that don't really work for you. So 198 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: I try to help people to recognize maybe patterns in 199 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: how they have dealt with past problems so that they 200 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: can recognize their strengths. They can see that they have 201 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: dealt with a lot of difficult stuff and gotten through it. 202 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: Because a lot of people tend to live in the 203 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: past or in the future, and so there's a lot 204 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: of fear associated with that. But if you can be 205 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: mindful and live in the present, it's a lot easier 206 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: to maybe appreciate the little things going on in your life. 207 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: Or you can go out in nature and just hang 208 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 3: out with the birds or insects, or it really helps 209 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: you relax, and it helps you to kind of calm 210 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: down your nervous system. And a lot of people of 211 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 3: nervous systems are on overdrive these days. 212 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: Did you ever come across anybody who had negative energies 213 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: or they were just negative people? 214 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: I have I'm laughing because one of the most people 215 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: with evil energy happened to be a politician from a 216 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: Northeast state. I'll say it that way that I encountered 217 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: during a fundraising activity, and it was he repelled me 218 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 3: from the other side of the room. It was that strong. 219 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: You hadn't you felt this or he singled you out? 220 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: No, I felt it. And it was somebody that I 221 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: had had a little bit of an encounter with and 222 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: it wasn't necessarily a positive one, but I had never 223 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: been in his physical presence before, and when it really 224 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: actually shocked me at how strong and how strong that 225 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: energy was, and how I really needed to stay a 226 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: good you know, two hundred feet away from him. I 227 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: didn't feel unsafe because I really believe that we can 228 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: control our energy and that nothing can get to us 229 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: unless we allow it. So I was not going to 230 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: let his energy get to me or scare me. But 231 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: it was very powerfully negative and evil, and I was 232 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: really happy when you know, the evening was over put 233 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: it that way. 234 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: Do you think he knew he had this negativity? 235 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: From what I understand from other people who've encountered him, 236 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: he was definitely not a nice person, not an ethical person, 237 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: and some of the the dealings with we had that 238 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: we had with him were not at all kind or ethical. 239 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: So I don't know that he was maybe conscious of 240 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: transmitting you know, negative energy or having negativetivity work through him, but. 241 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: He knew what kind of guy he was, right, Oh. 242 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah. 243 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: As soon as you got away from him, did you 244 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: feel better? 245 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: I did. I felt immensely that as soon as I 246 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: even just took, you know, a few steps away from 247 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: him and got on the other side of the room, 248 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: and it was it was kind of bizarre because without 249 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: having to look at him, I knew where he was 250 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: and I could tell that he was looking at me 251 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: sometimes and I would turn around and there, you know, 252 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: sure enough he was daring. But I did not even 253 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: have to look at him to know the proximity of 254 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 3: where he was in the room. 255 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: Was he evil? 256 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna say yes. I mean, that's the only 257 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: way to describe it. And I've encounted people like that before, thankfully, 258 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: not very many in my lifetime. But I remember, like 259 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: stupid example, but I remember being at a car dealership 260 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: and there was a person walking around in the parking 261 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: lot and I just I was instantly drawn to them. 262 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: But it was for a really bad reason. I just 263 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: felt like, this person has very evil energy, don't know 264 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: why they're here, don't want anything to do with them. 265 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: But you know, thankfully it hasn't happened very often. Unfortunately, 266 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: it's happened within my own family, which happened in a 267 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: lot of families. 268 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: Sometimes the person with a bad energy was he an employee? 269 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: What was he doing out there? 270 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I just 271 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: remember seeing them. I don't I think it may have 272 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: been someone potentially looking for a car, because I don't 273 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: think it was an employee, but it just I don't 274 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: know if it was a you know, a homeless person. 275 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: And then to the ill person. Not that mentally ill 276 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: people or evil, they're absolutely not, but it was just 277 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: somebody who seemed very out of place and did not 278 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: you know, ask anybody about it. I just was kind 279 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: of like, Okay, I don't really want to deal with that, 280 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: So we're going to think very positive thoughts and say 281 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: the Lord's prayer to myself and just do a lot 282 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: of things to make myself feel protected. 283 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: And get out of there. Yes, exactly how important is 284 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: that for you to get away from these people? 285 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: I think it's essential. I know it's essential. And that's 286 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: why it's so important to listen to your gut feelings. 287 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: Sometimes those evil entities or really negative people are within 288 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: our own families. That happened so often, and you may 289 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: feel guilty or you may be made to feel like 290 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 3: a bad person if you set boundaries, if you say 291 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 3: it's not okay to treat me that way, or I 292 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: can't have interactions with you, or I can't have my 293 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: children around you, or I cannot be in this job. 294 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 3: You know, I think it can make I know it 295 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 3: can it can make people feel really awkward, and a 296 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 3: lot of the time when I work with clients, it's 297 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 3: around setting these boundaries with very difficult, negative family members 298 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 3: who don't necessarily mean to be negative or narcissistic or 299 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 3: even abusive, but it's often through trauma that that happens. 300 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 3: And we can decide to address our traumas and get 301 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: help and not live, you know, continue to live in 302 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: a negative way, hurting people, or we can choose not 303 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: to get help and kind of perpetuate that often, you know, 304 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: family kind of. 305 00:18:59,440 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: Trauma. 306 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: You will listen to more Coast to Coast AM every 307 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: weeknight at one a m Eastern and go to Coast 308 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: to coastam dot com for more