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Speaker 1: The is one Bills Live presented by Calight of Health.

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Speaker 1: You're darntutinates one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

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Speaker 1: you here on a Tuesday. As we sit six days

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Speaker 1: away from week two for the Buffalo Bills. We are

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Speaker 1: about five days away from the rest of the NFL

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Speaker 1: playing two days away from Chargers Chiefs. Is that a

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Speaker 1: delectable Thursday night game? A Chargers Chiefs on the menu?

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Speaker 1: And I knew it wasn't the money game. I was going, Wow,

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Speaker 1: how can they not put that on, you know, on

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Speaker 1: a prime How can they cannot put that on Sunday night?

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Speaker 1: Monday night? And then I was like, oh, it's on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. I get it. So there you go. That's can.

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Speaker 1: I am gonna watch that game. Yeah, Keenan Allen does

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Speaker 1: not look like he's gonna play in that one, which

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Speaker 1: is unfortunate, and had a hamstring injury in week one,

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Speaker 1: so that kind of takes a little luster off for me.

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Speaker 1: We do not care. Speak for yourself, we do not care.

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Speaker 1: We do not care. Just play the game and they

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Speaker 1: see who wins. I'll tell you what though that I

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Speaker 1: said it yesterday and I'll say it again. You watch

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Speaker 1: these games and that guy in in La, the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is the only guy to me that is

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Speaker 1: in the ballpark with Josh. Closest thing I said last year,

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Speaker 1: he's the closest thing to Josh Allen. He doesn't run

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Speaker 1: like Josh. They played the game a little bit. He's

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Speaker 1: He chooses not to. I think more names. He ain't.

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Speaker 1: He's not the runner Josh is, even when he's not

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Speaker 1: he runs like a quarterback and Josh runs like you know,

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Speaker 1: a buffalo. So that's the difference, right. So but I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you when they stand back there and sling it,

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Speaker 1: they're the same guy. That's That's that's why, kid, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why people around the you know, even though they

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Speaker 1: like all about the Chargers this because of him. Yea,

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Speaker 1: just like the Bills, just like the the just like

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Speaker 1: the Bills and Josh Allen. I mean, Justin Herbert is

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Speaker 1: a guy who can really go. And he had one

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Speaker 1: throw where he's rolling to his left and he flips

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Speaker 1: his hips because he's a right handed thrower, um, and

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Speaker 1: he got it to it's this play right here. Yea

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Speaker 1: flips his hips and gets it there, and then somehow

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Speaker 1: the receiver spins into the end zone for a touchdown

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Speaker 1: on maybe the worst tackle I saw all week. He's yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's side arms that thing in there, switching his hips

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Speaker 1: I mean, that reminds me of a mis touchdown pass

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Speaker 1: that Josh had to Stefon Diggs Monday Night twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: everybody in the Monday Night booth are going yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: that's an amazing throw, and it's it's why you know,

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Speaker 1: the league's all gaga over these guys. And it's funny

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Speaker 1: two you think about this, you see Josh throw it, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is the one. I look at the look at

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Speaker 1: what we're doing. It and throw the ball boom, touchdown.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a harder throw than the one that

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Speaker 1: NFL people, why football people go absolutely bonko and it happens.

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Speaker 1: It happens more than we'll ever know because because I think,

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Speaker 1: We gotta get him. And the ownership said, no, no,

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Speaker 1: and then Nate Hackett starts using his timehouse to stop

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Speaker 1: that it's over. And that to me is that this

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Speaker 1: is that is to me unbelievably, unbelievably poignant about how

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Speaker 1: unprepared they were for the moment. This is why teams

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Speaker 1: with first year head coaches miss the playoffs. This is

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Speaker 1: why because they're not used to being in these kinds

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Speaker 1: of decision making positions with the game on the line,

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Speaker 1: and they don't always get it right. This one seemed

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Speaker 1: pretty apparent, pretty easy to figure. I mean, he choked

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Speaker 1: on the whole dang thing and couldn't even cough it up.

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Speaker 1: And it's easy to say too, because the kick was wide.

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Speaker 1: He had the leg the guy could get it, and

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Speaker 1: Russ Wilson said in the postgame, the guy we asked

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Speaker 1: to kick her what he needed. He goes to forty

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Speaker 1: six yard line left, hash that's where they gave it

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Speaker 1: to him, and he had the leg to do it,

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Speaker 1: and he got the practice kick, and I get all that.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, the way they used the clock at

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Speaker 1: the end, waiting to take the time out. They had

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Speaker 1: decided not to go for it before they lined up

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Speaker 1: to let the clock. And I don't know a sixty

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Speaker 1: four yarder, Steve. I'm gonna give Drew Ciciliano credit on

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Speaker 1: this because he looked it up from NFL Network. Two

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Speaker 1: for forty two in the one hundred three year history

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Speaker 1: of the NFL, kickers are two for forty two on

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Speaker 1: field goal attempts of sixty four yards or more. Two

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Speaker 1: for forty two. I don't care if McManus said he

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Speaker 1: can kick it through the uprights from the locker room.

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Speaker 1: I'm going with the numbers. And you ain't justin Tucker,

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Speaker 1: last time I checked. And we're not kicking in Denver,

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Speaker 1: We're kicking in Seattle. And it's and it's that two

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Speaker 1: for forty two versus one play five yards against the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks team without without their safety whom I can't think

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Speaker 1: of his name, who came out with the a knee

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Speaker 1: knee issue. The the guy that was with the Jets,

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. They I'm just getting I think you got

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Speaker 1: Russ Wilson for a five yard play. Even if the

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Speaker 1: play doesn't work, that guy might be able to just

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Speaker 1: run it. Yeah, get it exactly, and they got they

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Speaker 1: got three timeouts. It's just, oh my gosh. I'm just

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Speaker 1: the EFC West is probably gonna be very nip and

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Speaker 1: tuck this year. You needed that game, Yeah, you kind

462
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Speaker 1: of needed that game. Kind of needed that game. I

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Speaker 1: know it's only one of seventeen, but I got a

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Speaker 1: bad feeling they're gonna be looking back at that one

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say the Yeah, you're gonna say they

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Speaker 1: needed it because they are not in a friendly division,

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Speaker 1: as we know, and that's one that got away. It's

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Speaker 1: unfortunate for them. A lot of back and forth on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Steelers defensive n T J. Watts Peck injury. They're

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Speaker 1: not gonna have him undergo surgery because if they did,

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Speaker 1: he would be out for the whole year. So they're

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Speaker 1: gonna try to manage it. They're gonna say he could

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Speaker 1: return in six weeks. Either way, it's probably gonna take

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Speaker 1: him out of playing against the Bills in Week five,

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Speaker 1: which is good news for the bills because he was

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Speaker 1: a problem last year in the opener, and then you

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Speaker 1: have the whole Dak Prescott injury thing. Steve suddenly, suddenly

478
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Speaker 1: it went from six to eight weeks to seven to five,

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Speaker 1: and now Jerry Jones is on the radio today talking like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we could have him back in four weeks. I was like,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, and I'll get it. Pretty important it is,

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Speaker 1: It's really important. The problem is it depending on the

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Speaker 1: break and how the screws and how the surgery went.

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Speaker 1: If that that thing will mend up pretty quick. It'll

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Speaker 1: be like three weeks and that thing will be and

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Speaker 1: it'll be strong. It won't be sturdy enough to you know,

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Speaker 1: take shots like it did the other night in broke.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but I think he'll feel I think he'll

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Speaker 1: feel pretty normal in about three weeks to a month,

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Speaker 1: and that's you know, that's basically all you need if

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Speaker 1: you can, you know, if he's gonna have to protect

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Speaker 1: it for another three or four weeks after that, but

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Speaker 1: I think you could play with it, and don't don't

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Speaker 1: know how after surgery you can build the strength up

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Speaker 1: in three weeks so it's strong enough to grip and

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Speaker 1: rip a football well, that's just it. That's just it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know in three weeks, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how much he'll lose, but yeah, that's gonna be it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I just say I particularly say

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Speaker 1: I particularly enjoyed the team physician for the Cowboys wearing

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Speaker 1: cowboy hat. Yeah, he's done that. He's been on the

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Speaker 1: sidelines there. If you've seen it, he's been on there

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Speaker 1: for I think probably that's just one hundred and three years.

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Speaker 1: That's just marvelous. That guy. Yeah, my thumb's messed up.

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Speaker 1: Go see Tex. Yeah, tell me his name is Tex.

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Speaker 1: That guy has been that hat maybe the other doctor

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Speaker 1: day that I've I really believe I've seen that guy

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Speaker 1: in that hat for at least three deck guts. He

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Speaker 1: might have been there when we were playing him in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Right, Why do you need to wear

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Speaker 1: that on the sideline in a dome stadium. Somebody's got

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Speaker 1: to help me with that. He's completing the look. I

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Speaker 1: guess right. You want, Yeah, you gotta be the gossip

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Speaker 1: so so as you know, grandkids can find him on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines. But that I'm let me just say this

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Speaker 1: before Bak got hurt. The Cowboys looked horrid anyway, and

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Speaker 1: without him, they're wishing they had a different They're wishing

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Speaker 1: they had a different backup quarterback Cooper Rush time. The

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers said they're open to a trade if

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Speaker 1: somebody wants something, but something tells me the price. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're not niners. Aren't desperate? Are

522
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys? You think they're claiming they're not, But that

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00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: sounds like they used car Salesman and Jerry Jones more

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Speaker 1: than anything else around the NFL, once again presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalid to Health, the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Steve and I take a break here, but a good

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Speaker 1: show lined up for you today. Second hour. The show

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Speaker 1: will have the Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas here in

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Speaker 1: studio with us. Talk to him about the upcoming home opener,

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Speaker 1: which I am confident he will be in attendance for,

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of other stuff about week one, his

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Speaker 1: initial thoughts of how the team looks this season. So

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Speaker 1: we'll catch up with Therm then, but we take a

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Speaker 1: break now. What's on tap for you is which AFC

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Speaker 1: team looks the most capable of giving the Bills a

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Speaker 1: run for their money and why after one week we

537
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Speaker 1: know we might be overreacting a little. Give us the

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Speaker 1: AFC team that looks the most capable of given the

539
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Speaker 1: Bills a run for their money in the conference. We'll

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Speaker 1: do that with you when we return here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalata Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, back on One Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 1: task your review. Where we are asking you coming out

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Speaker 1: a week one, which AFC team looks the most capable

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Speaker 1: of giving the Bills a run for their money? And why?

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Speaker 1: Let us know at eight three fifty eight, five fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifty or on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones and waiting for us. There

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Speaker 1: is Mark in West Seneca. What do you got for us? Mark?

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Speaker 1: Here on one Bills Live. Here, Chris say, Steve, are

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Speaker 1: you today? Good? Good? Hey? I just just calling in

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Speaker 1: to make a point that I rarely, if ever hear

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Speaker 1: about you. Guys were talking about Lamar in Baltimore a

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Speaker 1: little bit at the beginning of the show, and it

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Speaker 1: amazes me. I mean when I look at the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 1: they have been a class organization for quite a long time.

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Speaker 1: They recognize talent, they run then organization. Well, they've been

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Speaker 1: on the verge of a Super Bowl contender every single season,

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Speaker 1: and they have a Super Bowl winning head coach who,

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Speaker 1: in my estimation and is a top five coach in

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Speaker 1: the league. That all being said, everybody always complains Baltimore

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Speaker 1: does not put weapons around Lamar for him to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball too, and they don't set him up in

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Speaker 1: a scheme that allows him to be a great passer.

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Speaker 1: So you're going to tell me that this organization who

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Speaker 1: sees this guy every day in practice, is then going

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Speaker 1: to determine that he's a great thrower of the football.

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Speaker 1: We just need to give him some help. And they're

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Speaker 1: going to ignore that and continue to run a scheme

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Speaker 1: with Greg Roman that everybody knows is running and continually

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Speaker 1: ignore this year after year after year, believing and recognizing

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Speaker 1: that this guy is a great thrower of the football.

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Speaker 1: There's no denying Lamar's talent. Okay, Now, Lamar's talent throwing

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Speaker 1: the football was anywhere near what it is running the football, unquestionably,

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Speaker 1: he'd be signed and need to have one of the

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Speaker 1: top contracts in the league for quarterbacks, and I just

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Speaker 1: don't understand how that gets ignored. There's got to be

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Speaker 1: some belief in that organization that we're not sure he

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Speaker 1: can do it with his arm, and until he proves

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Speaker 1: it in the regular season or even in a playoff game,

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Speaker 1: which he didn't do in Buffalo, we're not going to

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Speaker 1: pay him that kind of money. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: part of the reason why he hasn't been signed. And

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Speaker 1: I also think that's why they haven't changed the scheme

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Speaker 1: or gone to a younger coordinator with you know, who's

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Speaker 1: going to come in with a modern day passing attack

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Speaker 1: in a modern day scheme. So I just I'm curious

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Speaker 1: as what you guys think about that. But that in

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Speaker 1: the back of my mind when I look at that team,

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Speaker 1: tells me what they think of Lamar and how they've

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Speaker 1: done things. Thank you guys, and crush Tennessee. All right,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the calling, Mark, Thanks Mark. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: in there. But yeah, no question that Baltimore completely revamped

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Speaker 1: their roster and their offensive approach when they swim over

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Speaker 1: from Joe Flacco to Lamar Jackson and they went all in.

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Speaker 1: In fact, their head coach said, listen, we're not we

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Speaker 1: don't really need. What we really need is wide receivers

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Speaker 1: who can block in the run game, because they knew

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Speaker 1: they were going to be a running football team, so

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Speaker 1: they did that and then and now a too. Let's

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Speaker 1: face it, in free agency, if you want to go

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Speaker 1: to a team and as a wide receiver, Baltimore is

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Speaker 1: the thirty second team on your list because they're the

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Speaker 1: team that runs it. Even Tennessee you'd even go to

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Speaker 1: before you do this. But I just think, and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot in what you said, the Ravens have done

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Speaker 1: this before. They did with Joe Flacco. They're gonna say, listen,

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Speaker 1: you're great, We'll give you a real good offer, but

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to prove it on the field if

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Speaker 1: you want to get paid. And the Ravens have always

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Speaker 1: been willing to pay for guys who prove it time

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Speaker 1: and again. And they paid Mark Andrews a giant contract

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Speaker 1: extension last year. That's right end. Joe Flacco was the

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Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback in the National Football League. Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 1: That was because he was in a contract year. They

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Speaker 1: went to and won the Super Bowl and he was

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Speaker 1: the MVP, and he was the MVP if Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: does that, you can bet they will sign him to

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Speaker 1: a commensurate contract. He will be the largest highest paid

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. And guaranteed money has been the

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Speaker 1: stumbling block there. Apparently the Ravens offered him up a

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million dollar contract but not fully guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: and that that was why Lamar reportedly said no. The

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Speaker 1: veracity of that hard to know, but I think that

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Speaker 1: was a bit of an issue there as well. We

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Speaker 1: have to take a break here because when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk with ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky.

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Speaker 1: He'll be joining us here next on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by a Lot of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steves Tasker with you, and please to be joy now

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Speaker 1: by the man who's gonna be in the three man

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Speaker 1: booth Monday night for ESPN along with Steve Levy and

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Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick. It is ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovski joining

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Speaker 1: us on the line. Dan, good to have you. You're

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Speaker 1: pumped for Monday nights. Oh, she's what good to be

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Speaker 1: with you. Guys, pumps would be a massive understatement. You know. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: when I got the news of the role, it was

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Speaker 1: a very incredible, incredible, right type of moments. And then

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Speaker 1: when we got the assignment because they're the double header

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota Philly and my wife's from Philly, and it

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Speaker 1: was like, that would be a cool game. And then

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Speaker 1: the other game obviously Tennessee. I Buffalo, and I love

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo fans and Bill's mafia and I'm a massive

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Speaker 1: fan of their team, and I'm like, dude, give me

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Speaker 1: Bills Tennessee because that game is outrageous. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be an amazing, amazing experience for me certainly. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping and certainly get you to do it justice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know this too, Dan, The atmosphere is going

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Speaker 1: to be absolutely off the hook because of you know,

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Speaker 1: the Bills fans are going to be going crazy with

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Speaker 1: the expectations. Plus having handed the world champion, defending world

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Speaker 1: champions at twenty one point loss, it's just going to

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Speaker 1: spell out all kinds of excitement in the air. What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts, and I know you've probably begun to

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Speaker 1: work on this game already. What are your thoughts about

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Speaker 1: the Titans, how they've changed from a year ago when

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Speaker 1: they were the number one seed and the Bills a

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Speaker 1: year ago when you know they had the season they did.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee right now doesn't look very different. You know, obviously

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Speaker 1: one game. The difference is they're not identity or schematically

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Speaker 1: any difference. They still believe that they want to line

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Speaker 1: up in their big bodies and run the football with

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Speaker 1: Derek you utilize their play action pass. The difference is

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Speaker 1: utilizing the play action pass with a J. Brown in

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Speaker 1: comparison to Robert Woods or Traylon Burks. Robert comes over

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Speaker 1: from the trade from the Rams, and Treylon is their

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Speaker 1: first round pick out of Arkansas. I'm hoping and assuming

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Speaker 1: that the NFL world's got a glimpse of a J.

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Speaker 1: Brown is a phenomenal wide receiver, and Robert's really good,

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Speaker 1: but he's not AJ. And Traylon Burke's very talented, but

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Speaker 1: he's not AJ. And and looked like watching that game,

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Speaker 1: Tennessee was in search of Woku go win on the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: You know, even even the way they were running their

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Speaker 1: formations and trying to cut the splits, it looked like

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Speaker 1: they were trying to figure out who's the winner, and

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Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of chunks opening their pass games. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: the thing that was the really big takeaway for me

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Speaker 1: is their pass rush is just not the same without

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Speaker 1: Harold Landry. It just isn't. And there that showed up

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Speaker 1: later on in that football game. And then also I was,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say shocked, but the fact that

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Speaker 1: the Giants offensive line out physical them. I mean, Barkley

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Speaker 1: had an incredible game. He had one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: eight yards before getting touched before. I mean, that is

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Speaker 1: the offensive line of New York just moving Tennessee. That

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Speaker 1: does not happen often in Nashville. Yeah, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean I remember looking at the numbers after that

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Speaker 1: game because I did not get a chance to watch it,

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Speaker 1: and just to see that Daniel Jones threw the ball

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Speaker 1: twenty one times. I mean, look, you look at se

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Speaker 1: Quon as a talent, you understand why they went to

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Speaker 1: him as many times as they did. But he's also

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Speaker 1: got to be productive and successful running the football. But

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Speaker 1: they obviously were, and it it just makes me feel

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Speaker 1: dan like there are just little chinks in the armor

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Speaker 1: of what the Titans have been over the years, and

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Speaker 1: the Harold Landry loss, I think is is a big one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know they still have Dupree and Simmons

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Speaker 1: is still a monster up front, but that one's I

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Speaker 1: think it is going to be costly. I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna take them weeks to find out how to replace

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Speaker 1: him in the lineup, and then taking it a step further.

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Speaker 1: As you pointed out, while there was some receivers you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe have some potential, I don't think they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: it all ironed out in time for Monday night. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna be able to hang

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Speaker 1: with Buffalo unless Derrick Henry absolutely goes off. And with

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Speaker 1: the revamped defensive front that the Bills have now with

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, de Kwon Jones and Tim Settle up there,

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Speaker 1: I feel a whole lot better about them being gap

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Speaker 1: sound against this run first offensive Tennessee. Absolutely. The downside

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Speaker 1: is Tennessee comes in with desperation and urgency. You go,

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Speaker 1: oh two in this conference night night, you know it

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Speaker 1: is going to be a brutal hill to climback up.

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Speaker 1: So they come in, you know, everything on the table

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Speaker 1: unload the back to try to get back to one

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Speaker 1: on one. You know, the really underrated thing too, is

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Speaker 1: how how well von Miller plays the run. We often, okay,

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Speaker 1: elite ed rusher all that, you know, and the Rams

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Speaker 1: candidate did not challenge them in the run game. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Rams, especially in interior offensive line about whooked. And

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Speaker 1: it'll be a different beast with Tennessee obviously, because that's

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Speaker 1: who they are and the Rams are not are not

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Speaker 1: trying to even pretend to be that. Um. I really,

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Speaker 1: what I really liked about Buffalo's defense against the Rams

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Speaker 1: and which will help certainly against Tennessee is um the

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Speaker 1: way that they were doing things opposite von Miller. You know,

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Speaker 1: they were putting von in positions and understanding listen, as

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Speaker 1: an offense, we have to pay attention to von Miller.

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Speaker 1: I cannot unless I have a top three or four

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle in the league. I cannot one on one

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Speaker 1: block in many such little one third and eight. So

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Speaker 1: they were doing really good games, sons two man stuff

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Speaker 1: away from Vaughan. That was helping some of those non

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Speaker 1: superstar players so to speak, be really really good in

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Speaker 1: the run in the past game, and that I think

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Speaker 1: been a greater sense of not only do they have

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Speaker 1: the players that are necessary those that's when you in

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Speaker 1: positions to be successful, so to speak. And you can

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Speaker 1: look at the Tennessee Titans as they walk in here

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo. They've got Ryan Tannehill, who you know, He's

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Speaker 1: never on the list of elite quarterbacks. He's never one

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Speaker 1: of those guys that people walk into a game saying, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm really afraid, But that guy they win with him.

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Speaker 1: And I was watching the film of their game this

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Speaker 1: last week against the Johnts. He still has a strong

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Speaker 1: NFL arm even though the offense has changed or evolved

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Speaker 1: a little bit on the edges around him. What did

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Speaker 1: you tell me a little bit about Ryan hand Hill?

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Speaker 1: What you like or dislike about him as a QB? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd like. And the greatest strength is he can fit

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Speaker 1: the ball and a ton afraid to into tight windows.

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Speaker 1: He his ability to see windows and when they open

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Speaker 1: and when they close, and his courage in conviction to

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Speaker 1: fit the ball into tight windows without being reckless with

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Speaker 1: the ball is his greatest attribute. And that's really ever

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Speaker 1: since he's become the starter down in Tennessee, has really

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Speaker 1: thrown that ball with conviction into those windows. He operates

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Speaker 1: the play action game really well. He married the ball

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Speaker 1: fake and the concept of the routes with his feet

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Speaker 1: very good. He's not gonna hold the ball along when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the play action game. Does a good job.

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Speaker 1: One to two to three, one two to three, and

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Speaker 1: it's very much. You can see he's gotten thousands and

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Speaker 1: thousands of rest of it while be creative with the

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Speaker 1: feat nor run. Obviously, because they're more reliant on Derek

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Speaker 1: very Bright, they're not going to confuse them with coverage

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Speaker 1: and it's hard to get. Indeed, there's no simple about

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Speaker 1: on offense. He's a good player and if you give

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Speaker 1: him second level crossing windows, you know, hours out of windows,

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Speaker 1: he can absolutely rip you apart in the play action game.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk quickly, Dan about Buffalo's third down prowess against

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Speaker 1: the Rams last week. I know we talked to him

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Speaker 1: in the offseason about Ken Dorsey, but the execution was

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Speaker 1: just as good. Yeah, nine out of ten. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's just off the charts. I don't have to tell

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Speaker 1: you that. The thing that I found most interesting was

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Speaker 1: three of their biggest plays in terms of yardage game

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Speaker 1: came on third down. It was the twenty six yard

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Speaker 1: or on the third and one to Davis for the touchdown,

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Speaker 1: the forty seven yard to Davis on the deep post,

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Speaker 1: and the fifty three yarder to Diggs that Diggs told

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Speaker 1: us after the game, Josh drew up in the dirt.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't even the called play. He saw Aaron Donald

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Speaker 1: was not on the field and said, just go run,

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Speaker 1: I'll have time to throw. No he didn't. That's a

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Speaker 1: real story. Yeah, that's what he said. Oh my, that's

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Speaker 1: that is That is like like elite offensive mind smart.

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Speaker 1: Uh gosh, I just made the hair in the back

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Speaker 1: of my next stand up. Um, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: the thing that really stood up for me with those

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Speaker 1: third downs was maybe felt in control, you know. And

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Speaker 1: Josh I kind of tweeted this out. He did such

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Speaker 1: a remarkable job of hitting his back leg and either

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Speaker 1: ball came out or he through. I'm gonna run. My

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Speaker 1: favorite play of the game, or one of them, is

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Speaker 1: the long vaulved in Davis the forty three r parts

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Speaker 1: forty three or posts or forty seven yar posts. Because

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Speaker 1: Singletary takes that play, I mean, Singletary comes over seek protection,

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Speaker 1: puts a space on a blitzer evolves able to get

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Speaker 1: out of it. If he doesn't, Josh isn't able to

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Speaker 1: make that throw. So but they were never really not

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Speaker 1: in control of those third downs because they were so

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Speaker 1: good on first and second down. I will be honest

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Speaker 1: with you. My biggest takeaway because I expected them offensive

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Speaker 1: and to play good pass game. My biggest takeaway was

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Speaker 1: the implementation of a Kyle Shanahan type of run game.

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Speaker 1: That the numbers that they were getting in their run

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Speaker 1: game advantage wise, in the utilization of formation and motion,

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Speaker 1: that's not been their past. And that was my greatest

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Speaker 1: takeaway offensively because if they can sprinkle some of that

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Speaker 1: in to that offense, oh buddy. Yeah. And there was

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Speaker 1: a fair amount of twenty one personnel for sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: with Ragie Gilliam. Yeah, and they were using him as

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Speaker 1: a fullback but then aligning him at a tight end

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Speaker 1: in multiple moments. It was it was and then you know,

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Speaker 1: getting the motion to come over. So they took a

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Speaker 1: three man side and made it a four man side

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Speaker 1: and they were only blocking three people four four offensive guys.

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Speaker 1: Like it was really good. Yeah, Dan, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for coming and spending some time with us. Really appreciate

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Speaker 1: it and look forward to seeing you here this weekend

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Speaker 1: for Monday Night Football. Thanks, Bello's always a good time

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Speaker 1: if you will, all right, Dan Orlovsky, NFL analyst for ESPN,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna be on the call Monday night with Lewis

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Speaker 1: Riddick and Steve Levy on ESPN's Monday Night Football telecast.

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Speaker 1: Good to have him on as always, always fun to

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Speaker 1: talk x's and ows with him. His next stood up,

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Speaker 1: Yeah he hadn't heard this. I mean, we're just going

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Speaker 1: by what Dig said. Yeah, he hadn't heard this, has

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Speaker 1: no reason why, right dis Yeah, Diggs said it unprompted.

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Speaker 1: He said, you know, Josh's told me they do this,

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Speaker 1: go run because I'm gonna have time to throw this. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And it's true. I mean, Josh has come so far.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things about him when he came

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Speaker 1: out was how intelligent he was, and and that has

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Speaker 1: proven to be the case. The guy recalls stuff like

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Speaker 1: even during game, and that's that kind of stuff leads

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Speaker 1: to plays like you saw break time for us here

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Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll have a Hall of Famer

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Speaker 1: sitting next to us. One Thurman Thomas will be joining

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Speaker 1: us in studio. We'll be talking to him about the

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Speaker 1: upcoming Monday nighter, which I have no doubt he'll be

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00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: in attendance for, along with what he thought from the

846
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: Bill's performance in week one. Thurman Dammas coming your way

847
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: next Here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health,

848
00:49:37,560 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. The One Bill's Live presented by

849
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: called light a Health. All Right, our number two Here

850
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, and Bill's Hall

851
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: of Famer Thurman Thomas joining us here on a Tuesday.

852
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: Good to have you, Thurman. What goes up? Man? How

853
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: are you guys doing? I can tell you what everybody's

854
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: still talking about Thursday. I'm gonna I ain't never seen

855
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: so much Bills stuff in my life. I was telling him,

856
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: I went to lunch ourday, every single person, everything that

857
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: was in Syracuse yesterday. Bill's gear all over the place.

858
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: I mean it is. And that's usually the dividing line, yes,

859
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: between Bill's territory and Giants Terence. Yeah, usually the line

860
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: of demarcation goes right down the middle of that city sometimes,

861
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't shock me if it's flipped a little

862
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: bit in favor of the Bills for sure. Um. So yeah,

863
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: why don't we start there Thursday night football? Right? Um?

864
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: What I want to know, what were the what were

865
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: the thoughts like as the game was about to begin

866
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: and then after it got started, did your thoughts about

867
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 1: what you were seeing change at all? Like did anything

868
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: exceed your expectations going in? Because the hype was real

869
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: for this team, as you know, Yeah, the hype was

870
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: very real, Yeah, for this football team, and now that

871
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: had to live up to it, and they had to

872
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: live up to it. But I think once Von did

873
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: his thing, it was over. I think it was over.

874
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, a couple of turn over there in

875
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: the first half ten ten and a half time, but

876
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: I still think at that point game was over. I

877
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: just think that we looked like the better football team

878
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: I was we were, and thirty one ten probably should

879
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: have been forty five ten. Yeah, I was thinking the

880
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: same thing at least forty one. You know, if you

881
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: think of thirty one, you get a field goal out

882
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: of one of those, and they were down close and

883
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: they turned it over twice, down three times. Um, certainly

884
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: it was it was. I was talking one of the

885
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: coaches today and said it was almost perfect because it

886
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: gave the turnovers were kind of individual mistakes, right, right,

887
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: So you can you got enough there to be happy

888
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: about and think, Okay, we're on the right track. But

889
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: then you got enough as a coach and say, listen,

890
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: you clean that up. You know, we got stuff we

891
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: gotta work on. Yeah, stuff you gotta work on. And

892
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: I actually talked to uh, James Cook, you know what, Hey,

893
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: don't worry about the next game. We're about the next practice.

894
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: We're about the next practice, you know, to to settle

895
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: those things and get it corrected. I mean, and then somebody,

896
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, people come up with all these thoughts or whatever,

897
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: and like they lifted off like ten running backs who

898
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: fumbled over their first character right right. And it's a

899
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: pretty impressive list, you know. I was Christian McCaffrey, Stephen Jackson.

900
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a couple of guys that are

901
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: on there that you know, they got some yardage on them.

902
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: But Tomlinson was on that Yeah, he was on that list.

903
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, but just very impressive by what they've done.

904
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: You know, you look at this defense. It was ranking

905
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: what one last year. I mean, you don't see them

906
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: slowing down at all. Might be better. It might be better.

907
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: And I tell you what, you know, if the last

908
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: couple of years this team has stayed very healthy and

909
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: if that front eight or nine or whatever they want

910
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: to put up there can stay healthy. Yeah, it's gonna

911
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: be a lot of pressure for a lot of teams,

912
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: whether they're playing at home or whether they're playing on

913
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: the road. We'll have to see at Oliver and what

914
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: his infiry brings this week because he left with the

915
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: ankle injury did not return to the game. We'll probably

916
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: get an update at some point tomorrow from coach McDermott

917
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: as to whether he's day to day or whether it

918
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: could be I'm longer than that. That all being said,

919
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: you look at the game this week and what they're

920
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: gonna need from their defensive front changers dramatically. Yeah, you know,

921
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: getting twenty two hits or sacks on forty one drop

922
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: backs by Matthew Stafford last week was fantastic. It probably

923
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: exceeded expectations. But what they're gonna need from those guys

924
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: up front this week changes completely with Derrick Henry coming right,

925
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: So that's the next that's the next test, that's the

926
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: next st yeahs is not happened against Tennessee. It could,

927
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 1: I think so it could all right if they stopped

928
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: that run at the beginning of the game. I totally

929
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: believe that. I think Vrabel if he sees the game

930
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: gets out of hand and if our office can score him.

931
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: But then you're yeah, you're you're O. But I'm telling you,

932
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this football team is this defense

933
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: is set for pass for us and run defense. Yeah.

934
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: And I think in the ghettling day Quan And I

935
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: think the guy who makes a difference and I missed

936
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 1: the past couple of years has been Jordan Phillips. Love

937
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, you know what I'm saying. I mean, he's

938
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: been great for him to go to Arizona for a

939
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: couple of years, come back here to Buffalo in the

940
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: first game boom. Yeah, he started off where he left off.

941
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: He has incredible He has said that he likes playing

942
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: here because he feels he can be the best version

943
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: of himself as a player when he's here in Buffalo.

944
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: Down there, he had to go, I mean, they gave

945
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: him a bag, he had to go. But they play

946
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: a three four down there when he was down there, right,

947
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: and he doesn't feel he fits the three four system

948
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: very well, and he had to just stand in there

949
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: and grind instead of being a penetrating player. Yeah, they

950
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: had him lining up at last week and he got home.

951
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 1: He got home. He is a three hundred and forty

952
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: pound beast that's got more athleticism than I think anybody anticipates.

953
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: On the other side of the offensive life, you see

954
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: that this this highlight we saw just before the play

955
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: that we're watching here in studio, and I brought this

956
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: up yesterday. Vaughan comes off the the right side of

957
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: the offensive line. For one, he comes off, you know,

958
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: over the right tackle in a four man down front

959
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: once later in the game, and the right guard slides

960
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: out to help the right tackle. Right all three of

961
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: the other defensive linemen end up on top of Stafford

962
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: in the pocket. They I mean, they're all it's a pie.

963
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: It's a pile of humanity. So Vaughan gets doubled and

964
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: all three of the other guys are on top of

965
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: the sack. It's exactly what you envision this one right here,

966
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: It's exactly what you envision. God. I mean, Stafford's like

967
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: a joke. It's like a joke. You know, and Stafford

968
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: looked like a cow Patty on the you know, out

969
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: in the field, and it was unbelievable. Vaughn comes out

970
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: and they all get home. They all get home, the

971
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: Kwan Jones, Jordan Phillips, and I can't remember who the

972
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: other guy was in the outside, maybe up Inezza or somebody.

973
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, that's exactly the way you envisioned

974
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: when you got an elite pass rushing, when you move

975
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: them around. Yeah, and you look at this defense. I mean,

976
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, what years this for Leslie Fraser and Sean

977
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: McDermott six six, five and it seems like every six

978
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: it seems like every single year they've gotten better at

979
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: the defensive. Well. Yeah, presents too though, you know, like

980
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Terren Johnson came here as a fourth round pick.

981
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: He's one of the top five nickels in the league. Yeah,

982
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, look what they've done with it with Benford

983
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: alone in the last month and a half. I totally agree.

984
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: This is a great example of that. Um. There's a

985
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: ton of guys you can point to that have been

986
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: you know, Matt Milano seeing him early on saying you

987
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: know that that guy can plain, and he plugged in

988
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: really quick in his rookie season. Has been there ever since. Um, yeah,

989
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: it's been. It's been fun to watch, and uh it's

990
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: for me though. Let's talk to about this. Um. The

991
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: secondary has been kind of the lynchpin of the defense

992
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: for you know, four or five years. Yeah, I think

993
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: it got here right and fan for a good reason.

994
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: When Tardavious was when their first draft pick. Right, So

995
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: he comes in. So they got those three guys and

996
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: and they're they're rolling with coverage. Um, hard for the

997
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: quarterback to find openings, right, Well, yeah, now they got

998
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: Now they got a little bit more upfront as well,

999
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: and now they're playing a little bit Hamstern without Tredavious.

1000
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: But the two true young kids, both of them had

1001
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: passed defense. I'm telling you that. I'm telling them, guys

1002
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: are they look like they've been in this defense for

1003
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: a couple of years, even from training camp, the preseason

1004
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: into the first game. I mean, Lesten Fraser and Sean

1005
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: mcdern had done a great job of really coaching these

1006
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: guys and obviously having Pourier back there and Micah High,

1007
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, to the probably best two safeties in the

1008
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: league in my opinion, in the last couple of years.

1009
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: Having those guys back there to cover a lot of

1010
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: ground and uh in the zone and the man the

1011
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: man that they mix up man and throughout their entire

1012
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: game has definitely helped them. But that pass rush, man,

1013
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to do a lot of different

1014
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: things back there. I mean with that pad rush, you

1015
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: might be able to see a little bit more man

1016
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: to man now, right, you know, well you're dropping seven.

1017
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: I mean blitz once, didn't blitz once. Yeah, that's amazing.

1018
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: That's amazing. So that he had drop seven seven and

1019
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: that quarterback is like, okay, well where do I go now?

1020
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: Obviously you see him the first game what Robinson had

1021
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: one catch? Yeah, they were talking about him and being

1022
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: the deciding factor with Cooper Cup. He was scared coming

1023
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: into the game. He thought, man, I don't know what

1024
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna do with him because he gotta have some

1025
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: guys on Cooper Cup. What we're gonna do with aland Robinson?

1026
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: Because that guy and he got two targets for two

1027
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: targeyards one catching two yards. And the thing that I

1028
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,959
Speaker 1: really liked about this football team, and I text Jordan

1029
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: Pory and Micah Hidh after the football game, and I said, oh,

1030
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: congratulation on the win. Micah high within ten seconds just repeated.

1031
00:59:54,520 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: He just said, it's just one. It's just one. Yeah,

1032
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: you know what that that right there? I told somebody

1033
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: the other day it might have been on the group

1034
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: checkwhead that might this locker room might be the coolest

1035
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: place to be in the United States right now, right

1036
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: that locker room is so great and so confident right now.

1037
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: And that was gonna be the next thing I asked you,

1038
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: because I know you interact with these guys every once

1039
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: in a while, texts with some of them. It seems

1040
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: the growth and the maturation of this team is evident

1041
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: on the field. We know the culture that coach mcdermot's

1042
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: been able to establish here. You mentioned, you know how

1043
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: Micah responded after getting congratulated on the win. That's like

1044
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: a universal thing across the board. And I feel like,

1045
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: and you guys can speak to this, having had, you know,

1046
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: playoff runs that didn't end the way you wanted to

1047
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: eighty eight, eighty nine, not getting to the big game.

1048
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: Those I gotta feel like those playoff losses just build

1049
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: up this kind of scar tissue where you get to

1050
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: the point where you're just like, screw it all. We

1051
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: are on a right and I feel like that is

1052
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: what this team is embodying right now. There is going

1053
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: to be no down game days, no games where they're

1054
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: not just laying it all out there, because I think

1055
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: they learned from last year Jacksonville game, a couple of

1056
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: the others that they should have won it costs them

1057
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: home field throughout the playoffs. I don't know, It's just

1058
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: a gut feeling that I have. They just feel a

1059
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: little bit more laser focused on the ultimate prize and

1060
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: know that that focus has to be there every single week.

1061
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: Do you feel that or sense that from them? I

1062
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: feel it, I sense it. I believe it. I believe

1063
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: that's what they're looking at. Their confidence is sky high

1064
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: that they can do just about anything on that football field.

1065
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: I really do believe that. And not only do they

1066
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: believe it, I'm talking around with these fans. They're confident

1067
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: now and we know from the back of the nineties,

1068
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: we know we're gonna win. The fans feel that way

1069
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: right now. The fans feel that way, and I know

1070
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: the players do too, because layers always feeling they always

1071
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: feel like it's been like he win every single game.

1072
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: But when you bring on the von Miller here, who says,

1073
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: I want to win a championship for Buffalo after winning

1074
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: one with Denver and winning one last year with the Rams,

1075
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: he brings that type of leadership in there. Man. That

1076
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: thing is, Yeah, if you're going on all cylinders, right,

1077
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: they changes that in you know, our freaking locker changing. Now.

1078
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: They're guys in there like you don't have to do

1079
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: that for Joshua, But there are guys down the road,

1080
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: like guys like I used to be, guys covering like

1081
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: Taiwan Jones. There guys like you know, you know, Matakevitch

1082
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: and the guys, you know, the offensive lineman down there,

1083
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, the guy's backing up the offensive line all

1084
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: the down through the ross of their guys who look

1085
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: at that and see that, and they just raised their level,

1086
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: you know. So he was talking about it last week

1087
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: when he said, when Cornelius came here in eighty seven,

1088
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: that's before you got here. But he said Cornelius came

1089
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: he said, we saw it in the first practice. It's like,

1090
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: oh damn, yeah, yeah, we're gonna really yeah, yeah that

1091
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: he can go right, So you get that thing where

1092
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: you get and looks like when we were good, you know,

1093
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: and it was after we'd kind of proven ourselves, but

1094
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: it was the same thing. You You and Jim and

1095
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: Bruce and and Andre and certainly Cornes and Daryl. The hardest,

1096
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: the best guys, the hardest working, right. So guys like

1097
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, what am I gonna take a day off

1098
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: to know? I'm not over here like I'm taking a

1099
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: scout team reps? Am I gonna happen up here? Yeah?

1100
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go half speed, right, So it doesn't matter

1101
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: when you got a guy like von Miller, that's what

1102
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: he does. And he comes in and he's going, and

1103
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: he's you can see he's engaged in every rep and

1104
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: he's talking to guys and it's not he's not talking

1105
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: about you know, the dinner he had last night and

1106
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: then whatever it's about. Listen, when the guy takes a

1107
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: step like this, you put your hand here and you

1108
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's all the time, and it raises the

1109
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: level of the entire or roster. That's what great players do.

1110
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: You know that. I mean, look at what a j

1111
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: Boogie and Rousseau did in that game on Thursday night.

1112
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: Rousseau has a sack and a couple of quarterback hits

1113
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: and was a monster crashing down against the run game.

1114
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: And then Boogie has a sack, he has a pick

1115
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: that he tips to himself. AJ's got one and a

1116
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: half sacks and four quarterback hits like that. I would

1117
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: go and that's not just Vaughan. Vaughan plays a part

1118
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: of that. I'll say this. You go back, and it

1119
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: didn't happen while Vaughan wasn't here, that all of those

1120
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: guys had all that stuff going on in one game.

1121
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: But y'all, yeah, that's what they might have done it here.

1122
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: And it might have one of them here, one of

1123
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: them there, one of them, all of them did it

1124
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: in the same game and with no extra pressure coming,

1125
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: no linebackers blitzing, no secondary guys. But it was just

1126
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: the four of them, whoever it was, and they got

1127
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: that done in one game. And when you have a

1128
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: guy come in who's got some credibility in the league

1129
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: like Vaughn, and and you get guys like Jordan Phillips,

1130
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: who old is it was in Miami didn't go well

1131
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: and Miami came to Buffalo, is still a young player.

1132
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: Then he goes out gets his money, gets his money,

1133
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: and also sees how it is yeah in other places, Yeah,

1134
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: and comes back here and said, wait, bro, let's go

1135
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: this is you know, it really really makes a difference

1136
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: for they the attitude of the locker room. And because

1137
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: I tell you, I tell people all the time, I've

1138
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: said it on the show A bunch you win games

1139
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: Monday through Saturday. In the game just it's you know,

1140
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: like a punch, you know, it's like punching your ticket. Yeah.

1141
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: But coaches, I mean coach McDermott and I don't know

1142
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: if Marv did this, but I just feel like coach

1143
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: purposely makes practice harder than the damn game. So when

1144
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: they get to the game, the game's easy, Like yeah,

1145
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: you and we could talk about this a little bit too,

1146
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: because I'd be curious to get harder. One way you're

1147
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: saying harder mentally, maybe he's throwing adversity at him all

1148
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: the time, the coordinators, the players, he doesn't care, like

1149
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna make it as hard as possible for you

1150
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: during the practice. So when you're sitting there third and twelve,

1151
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, we got this, Like we're just

1152
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: gonna run this guy. I mean That's what it was

1153
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: like in the game Thursday. And I hate to bring

1154
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: it up, but I mean that's what Belichick does. He

1155
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: puts them in certain situations where you'd be like, oh,

1156
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: we gotta think right away. Yeah, yeah, we gotta think

1157
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: right away. Sean McDermott is doing. I mean, he's hey,

1158
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: look afterward, happened last year with the thirteen seconds. I

1159
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: mean he's he's got it turned up. He's got it

1160
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: turned up even more now. So yeah, because I mean,

1161
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: I guarantee you, man, this is gonna be a year

1162
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: where there's not gonna be a lot of screw ups

1163
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: out there. I would, I gotta say, I like that

1164
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: might have been the thing I was most impressed with

1165
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: in the whole game, front to back was the execution.

1166
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: Very few penalties. Now, granted they had the Cheffer's crew

1167
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: and they don't call throw a lot of flags to

1168
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: begin with, but very few penalties, very few unforced errors. Um,

1169
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: there weren't a lot of instances where they didn't make

1170
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: plays because the execution was poor. Sometimes, you know, the

1171
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: rams just get the best of you. You're in your opponent,

1172
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: it's the best of you. Don't make the play. Yes,

1173
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: there were a couple of bad decisions with the turnovers,

1174
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: but on the whole like it, it seemed pretty tight,

1175
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: like for week one two, you know what I mean,

1176
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: which brings me to my next thing. Theirm that I

1177
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: wanted to bounce. Steve and I were talking about this.

1178
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: The Packers, the Cardinals, the forty nine ers, and there

1179
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: was one other team that I can't remember now did

1180
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: not play any of their guys. And the Rams did

1181
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: not play any other guys in the preseason, just about

1182
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,919
Speaker 1: every single one of them late in eight and did

1183
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: not perform. Now, I'm not saying play your starters front

1184
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: to back in the preseason, but I play them a

1185
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: little bit. These guys all look flat, you know. Week one. Man,

1186
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: this conversation has been talking about a lot, especially in

1187
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: the last couple of days, because do Bruce call you

1188
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: a lot? No, he calls me at least I'm gonna

1189
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: show you pick up yeah, and he doesn't call me.

1190
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: Well yesterday and was like, have you seen all the

1191
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: injuries across the board soft tissues in the nation in

1192
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: the National Football League? And he goes back to always said,

1193
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: that's why we practice all the time in pads. We

1194
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: did hit we did hit a lot of We had

1195
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: two days for Christ didn't get a whole lot of

1196
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: training camp practices in in pads. If I remember right there,

1197
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: you know what, when you're going against Will Wolford, you're

1198
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: ready and they weren't. We didn't have any restrictions on

1199
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: contact at practice right back. We were pads twice a

1200
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: day for like a week and a half or two

1201
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: weeks leading into the first preseason game, and it was

1202
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: two days for seven solid straight days before you get

1203
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 1: a day off and you're hitting one practice at least

1204
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: a day. They're like going nine on nine set. Theyn't

1205
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: even do nine on seven. Yeah, these days nine on

1206
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: seven was like just take the take the corners and

1207
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: receivers off. The feeling go yeah, but and you can

1208
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: to your point though, there is something to be said

1209
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 1: about that. The players got to play, man. Your body

1210
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: has to get ready for that contact for sixty minutes.

1211
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: And I just think like some of those teams that

1212
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: are not playing and you name them all right there, Yeah, Russell,

1213
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna play in the preseason. You're gonna struggle. He

1214
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: was a little rust They're gonna struggle, man. You gotta

1215
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: be out there and be on a time in which

1216
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: your receivers and all that stuff. You just have to

1217
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: do it. You just can't just go to it. Here's

1218
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: and Steve was talking about the injuries happen because even

1219
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: if you're practicing in training camp or you know here,

1220
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, at the facility with your teammates and all

1221
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: that stuff, and you don't play in a preseason game

1222
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: to take that next step up in intensity. You go

1223
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: from practice to a game where it's one hundred and

1224
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: ten miles an hour every play, and something's gonna go

1225
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: and that, you know, that's why we saw you know,

1226
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: Chris Godwinners probably came back from ACL surgery too early.

1227
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: He yanks a hamstring because he's you know, yeah, I

1228
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: don't know. It's it's it's always a balance. It's a balance,

1229
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: you know. And you can practice as hard as you

1230
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: possibly want, and you hit every day in practice one

1231
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: as long as nobody gets hurt, right, somebody's gotta get hurt. Yeah,

1232
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, who's it gonna be. That's really the way,

1233
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: you know what you think about really from the Bills

1234
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: time for the last three or four years, the training health,

1235
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 1: the training strength and condition, they have been outstanding for

1236
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 1: these guys. Yeah, I mean, I mean, if you really

1237
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: look at it, David's white been really the only significant

1238
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: injury that they've suffered. Meets up at HCl right non

1239
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: contact non contact too. But these guys, man, they've been

1240
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 1: able to stay. Healker got an a kill his best

1241
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: week sixteen weeks seventeen. I mean, with man through the

1242
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: whole season, you never really you know what's going on

1243
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: with that. But it's a I think two. It's not

1244
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: so much sometimes it's not so much about the physicality.

1245
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: It is about the physicality of practicing hard and hitting

1246
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: and playing in the preseason against somebody else who's not

1247
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: interested in your health, like your teammates kind of you know,

1248
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: there's none of that going on. But it's also just

1249
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: about getting your mind around. Now, I gotta have my

1250
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: guard up when the ball is snapped, I mean, I

1251
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 1: gotta watch it. You know, you gotta have you gotta

1252
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 1: have your you gotta have your antenna up. You know,

1253
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: you gotta feel and see everything that's going on around

1254
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: you in training camp and practice your thinking. Okay, I've

1255
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 1: got this assignment. I'm gonna go over here. If he

1256
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 1: does this, I do that, If I do this. He

1257
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: does that, you know, and you're thinking about installing this stuff,

1258
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: but in a game, you don't think about that stuff.

1259
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: You're going, I gotta make this play, let's go, and

1260
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: you you gotta have like an awareness. And I think

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01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: that's as big a part. It's the mindset you have

1262
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: when it's live and it's for real. That is just

1263
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: different than it is in practice or a scrimmage or

1264
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: controlled scrimmage or anything like that. Thurman, we wanted to

1265
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: just to shift gears a little bit. Get your thoughts

1266
01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 1: on the latest happenings with the Browns organization. Steve was

1267
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: going to congratulate me um very much so, because they've

1268
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: decided shockingly through a fan vote, that they're logo at

1269
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: midfield going forward in Cleveland will be none other than

1270
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: Brownie the Elf. Um, and I know, feel free to

1271
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: criticize the fact that Brownie has not got the proper

1272
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: five points of pressure on the football there as he's

1273
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: carrying it a loaf of bread going there. Not so

1274
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: the center field logo is a fumble in so many

1275
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,839
Speaker 1: different ways. Um, he's holding that thing like it's a bible.

1276
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: Are we supposed to be intimidated by this? I mean,

1277
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: he's got his hand. Browns will be the last team

1278
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: in the National Football League to win a Super Bowl.

1279
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: Put it on the white board. It's gonna be a

1280
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: while before all of us voted for this. I mean,

1281
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: I realize he has been incorporated into a lot of

1282
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: their marks. Over the last I want to say, six

1283
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: to eight years, he has shown up more and more.

1284
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: But I mean, really where this is the first time

1285
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: I've ever seen and some of their some of their

1286
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 1: marks and logos and things like when I would get

1287
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 1: the weekly release when the Bills were playing the Browns,

1288
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: I'd see him up in the top corner. I'm like,

1289
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: what's going on? It was all for the center. This

1290
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: was this is the one they chose right here, right

1291
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: the one that we saw. Then this one was the

1292
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: other one where he's standing there with his hand on

1293
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: his hip looking at you like he's you know, the

1294
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: two helmets helt this three D helmet or the or

1295
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: the silhouette helmet. Yeah, and that was their four choices.

1296
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: And they chose this guy with the angry face and

1297
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: the stiff arm like the Heisman trophy kind of pose.

1298
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 1: And there there is the actual mascot running around the

1299
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: thing Browns are gonna have a mascot. Well he's he's

1300
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 1: been there for the last had Yes, he it was

1301
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: a slow release. Huh oh yeah, slow burn if you will.

1302
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 1: Um wow, I don't know what to say. It's hard

1303
01:13:55,720 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: to be intimidated by that, going in Brownie, Brownie, the Elf. Yes,

1304
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: I mean they got a guy that makes cookies, Like

1305
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's like the the Elf, the guy that

1306
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 1: out there. Somebody listen to me brown right, we are

1307
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: no last name for you. Nobody thought. Nobody thought of that.

1308
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: Oh listen that Jim maybe charged too much for it.

1309
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: And of course the Internet, which remains undefeated. They said,

1310
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: well house come they got Kyler Murray is their middlefield logo.

1311
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's like all this stuff and it's like Keebler,

1312
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 1: Keebler Elf, Kebler Elf is there the Keebler Browns. Does

1313
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: that mean everybody gets free front stripe cookies after the

1314
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: game or like, what do the only when they win?

1315
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: I guess the brownie after a loss to make him

1316
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 1: feel better. Or as Steve said earlier, just when you

1317
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: thought the Browns were ready to get it right and

1318
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: move on, they redeemed themselves so disappoint you all over again.

1319
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 1: That is just I can't think of something. I'm trying

1320
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: to think. I'm trying to rack my brain. You can't

1321
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,839
Speaker 1: for a logo that I thought less of. You can't.

1322
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: And I'm sure there are some that made you look

1323
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: at him a little? Why in elis? Why would it

1324
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: be an? I know there's a history to this and

1325
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: probably and I gotta I'm gonna read about it after

1326
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: the show because I'm not really that interested. And elf,

1327
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: that's that's why? How did they get to the elf? Okay,

1328
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: I gotta, um, Apparently it's been around for a while, right,

1329
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,959
Speaker 1: it's been around for a bit, And I guess Cleveland

1330
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: fans would know this. And and our buddy out in

1331
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,879
Speaker 1: the control im Tom Hollander grew up out in Cleveland

1332
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: and Cleveland, so I'm he'll know. Hey, my buddet text.

1333
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: He hasn't take me back yet. He's probably still shaking

1334
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: his head or he's or he's evolved into a deep

1335
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: depressions like them. That's a fake tweet like that wasn't

1336
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: to be foreseen. That's amazing. Yeah, well we'll try to

1337
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: get the four one one on why you know it

1338
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: came to this? It's brown and it says now, and

1339
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: it's been around since the nineteen forty six. Uh, yeah,

1340
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's unfortunate. I think we'll just say

1341
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: that for us. I mean, while we while you dive

1342
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: into that, we will take a break therm. If you

1343
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 1: want to hang around, you're welcome to. Otherwise you have

1344
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: fulfilled your duties. Um, but I think we would like

1345
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: to know if you're gonna be at the game right

1346
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: one day night. Yeah yeah, come on now, now this

1347
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: has become a thing, right because I know you you

1348
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: have upwards of a dozen bills jerseys current players is

1349
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Yeah, have you made the decision

1350
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: which number? Okay, don't let it out of the back.

1351
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,600
Speaker 1: We want we want the big reveal. Oh I'm not

1352
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: gonna he puts that out. Yeah yeah, he tweets it

1353
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: out or instagrams out and so all right, and got

1354
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: the big thing is it's a jersey. I had never

1355
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: wonne Okay, so that kind of narrows it down, it does,

1356
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: It could it could still, but yeah, all right, never

1357
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: won a jersey. That was a great tease them. Yeah

1358
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 1: all right, I'm trying to coming up with some obscure

1359
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 1: guy one of our old teammates. Who's gonna be well,

1360
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean he might give you a hint. Is it

1361
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 1: a current or a former player? Uh, it's a current Okay,

1362
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: it's current. Alright, So there's current. That's all you got. Usually, yeah,

1363
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: usually I would never wear your jersey. No, I'm saying that.

1364
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 1: I mean that's something that yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1365
01:17:53,040 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: it's fine. You've never seen me wear gyms? Yeah yeah.

1366
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: Last thing, Yeah, in a closet on the floor. Last

1367
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: thing for you, because we are anticipating that the roofs

1368
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 1: can If there was a roof on this thing, it

1369
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: would have been blown off come Monday night. Yes. What

1370
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: do you think makes this particular, this home opener particularly special?

1371
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: Why is it going to be nutso on Monday? Well? Um, one,

1372
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 1: because we're favored to win a Super Bowl and it

1373
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 1: looks like we have the best team in the National

1374
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: Football League. And I think for Bills fans who really

1375
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: show their presence because they did it a great job

1376
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: of that on the last couple of years on the road,

1377
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 1: and now for a Monday night game at home. Yea,

1378
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: they at home the home opener. I don't know when

1379
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: the last time they had a home opener that was

1380
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: a yeah Monday night. Yeah about this too. It's it's

1381
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: it's the first time the fans in person get to

1382
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: show a little love for these guys that have gone

1383
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: to this point resolutely a new interesting to see. Like

1384
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: I'm like Sean mcd he's probably going to introduce the offense.

1385
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe comes out the last I don't know. He's

1386
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 1: gonna be allowed roar for Vaughan or Josh now and

1387
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: think about that. You've got superstar on both sides of

1388
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: the of the deal. That's that's that's pretty good. That's

1389
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 1: pretty cool, right there, Thurup, thanks for stopping by. Sure

1390
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: we can't up coming weeks, especially to get your thoughts

1391
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 1: on how this Monday night went. I'm confident will go well.

1392
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: Bills are already ten point favorites. Ten points. That's a

1393
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 1: fat number. Is fat number. Yeah, I'm allowed to look

1394
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: at the face of Mike Vrabel know he he gets

1395
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: a little he gets under your skin. Ye, I don't

1396
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: like all right, there it is with the big hammer

1397
01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: ready in there, let's go. He's a hard coach to beat. Yeah,

1398
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: that's why you don't like him. Yeah, he's got his gut.

1399
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: He he doesn't miss a beat. You talk about guys,

1400
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: and he got a little he got a little uh

1401
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 1: uh pushed back from some of the decisions he made

1402
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: this week one, but on the whole bad guy. And

1403
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: I've said it before, I say it all the time,

1404
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: game management, timeouts, winning, I take a time out of

1405
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 1: how to use the clock. He's the best. He's the

1406
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: best guy. All right, break time for us. Thurman. Thanks,

1407
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 1: we'll catch up with you soon and we'll see you

1408
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: here on Monday night. That's Thurman, Thomas Bill's Hall of

1409
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: Famer joining us here on one Bills Live. Plenty more

1410
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: coming your way next. We'll see in a few all right,

1411
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: we've officially jumped the shark with Browning the Elf the

1412
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: new logo, and we'll be sitting at midfield at Cleveland

1413
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: Brown Stadium. What is that First Energy Stadium? I think

1414
01:20:56,040 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: something name of their part um. Yeah, Steve was congratulating

1415
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 1: me before the show for becoming the new center field

1416
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: logo because the name of the thing is Brownie the Elf,

1417
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 1: and now our fans have taken that and run with it.

1418
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 1: So thanks for that. Steve, appreciate that so very much.

1419
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: As my face has now been emblazoned on multiple gifts

1420
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 1: on Brownie the Elf. I'll just say this, I'm probably

1421
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: the same height. I've never worn pointy shoes or leotards.

1422
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: You don't have pointy ears either, But you have an

1423
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: angry face, though I've seen I do have an angry

1424
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: face at times. Yes, Brownie the Elf probably has more

1425
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 1: hair than me. There's a tuft of it coming out

1426
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: of the underside of his hat. But yes, we've we've

1427
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: completely jumped the sharks. As you could see here Steve

1428
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: our MSG viewers are getting a load of me as

1429
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: Brownie the Elf unfortunately. Yeah, you know, it is what

1430
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: it is. I'm sure we can get a guy to

1431
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 1: photoshop at a little bit better than that, right, I mean, yeah,

1432
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: we have people will work on it. Yeah, I don't

1433
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: know if we need to work on it. I think

1434
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 1: I've seen enough of that. Uh. Yeah, i'd like to know.

1435
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: You know, since they used my name, do I get name,

1436
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: image and likeness royalties from this at all? And my

1437
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 1: guess is probably not, Okay, I might have to get

1438
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 1: my not even probably not. I'd have to get my

1439
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: attorney on that one. Is absolutely see if we can

1440
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 1: get something from that. Yeah, um, since several of you

1441
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 1: call me by that name, not the elf part, the

1442
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 1: first part, although as I said, as I said, my health,

1443
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 1: my my height is probably gonna put me in the

1444
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: category of elf soon Brownie. Yeah, yeah, so there it is. Um.

1445
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 1: Last week Josh was called an actual buffalo by Mina Kimes.

1446
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: And now here we are. Here we are in week two,

1447
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: and I'm your brownie. I'm Brownie the elf. So there

1448
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: we go. Um. I was trying to read up on

1449
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: the thing. I got into this long, deep wormhole of right,

1450
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: Brownie the elf explanations. It's like, can we had a

1451
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: simpler one, like it's just nineteen forty six It came

1452
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: out and it was just this whole deep explanation into

1453
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:15,879
Speaker 1: the origination of um elves and stuff and brownies. Brownies

1454
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 1: are something separate. There might not even be brownies that

1455
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 1: are true elves. It's just I don't know, it's really weird.

1456
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: There was talking about homeowners out bowls of cream. There

1457
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: was brownies. So there was act up and caused mischief

1458
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: in your house. There was actually all Disney movie back

1459
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: in the day where they there they had little people

1460
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: like you know, foot tall. It was all done with

1461
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: effects and stuff, and they were called brownies. They weren't

1462
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: called elves. They were called brownies. I think about it, yes,

1463
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 1: and I can't remember the name of the movie. I

1464
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: can't remember, and uh, it wasn't that long ago, but

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01:23:52,479 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 1: they were called yeah brownies. Fantastic, then, yes, they they

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01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 1: could have done better. Why did this didn't do a

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01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: dog to represent the dog pound? You know, I don't

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01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 1: even think that was an option that it was. They

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01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: did not. They gave him two options of helmets. Like

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01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: they had the silhouette helmet, it was just the orange

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01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: helmet with side view of the helmet. Then they had

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Speaker 1: the one where it was three quarters turned like a

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01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: three D image of a helmet in the center of

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01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: the field where it was you could see inside the

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01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: helmet was black and dark, you know. And then they

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01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 1: had a different pose of Brown of the Elf, which was,

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01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a kind of a mountaintop pose

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01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: where he's got his hand on his hip kind of thing.

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01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: This one is the action Brownie Elf Brown of the Elf,

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01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: where he's like stiff arming and holding the football with

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01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: in the worst possible ways to make sure he fumbles. Yeah. Yeah,

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01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: he's carrying that football like a loaf of bread. Not

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01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: even you wish you could carry a loaf of bread

1484
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: like that he's got at least he's got it tucked under,

1485
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: but he's got it like he's like the back half

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01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: of the ball. It's about to spill out. It's like

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01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 1: he's in the on the verge of fumbling the thing

1488
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: now and still in slow not even in slow motion,

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01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: still life. And I'm just gonna say it, who's actually

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01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 1: getting traction in those? In that kind of footways? Were

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01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: in socks basically like you're gonna wipe, especially with the

1492
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: weather they have in Cleveland, you're not getting anywhere in

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01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: those now. And his hair, his hair's orange, yeah, and

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01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: that I mean, I guess it's because they wanted to

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01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 1: they want to make a discernment between where his hair

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01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: starts and where his sock hat begins because he's got

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01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: away on the hat. Oh he's got a hat on.

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01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: He's got like a sock hat, you know what I mean?

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01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 1: Like those Wow, Yeah, it's there, you go, it's special.

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01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: And I hadn't you know, I didn't know I was coming.

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01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: I usually you kind of get a heads up like, hey,

1502
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 1: the Browns are thinking about yep, yep. And they had

1503
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: a fan vote and stuff. I mean, you gotta live

1504
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: in Cleveland to find that stuff out because we had

1505
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: no idea about it. This is the first shot across

1506
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: the bow we've gotten about anything the Browns are doing.

1507
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dennis and Lewis has a comment to

1508
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 1: offer on this weird Browns logo. What do you got

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01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: for his? Dennis? How's it going? Guy? Good? It's been

1510
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: a while since I've talked to you, guys, man, since

1511
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 1: I've called in. But yeah, alright, first and foremost, I

1512
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 1: think that is goofy as heck. Yeah, I thought they

1513
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 1: were the dog Pound, you know, use a doghead, right, Yeah,

1514
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: it's something something along the lines of that. Yes, But

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01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 1: would that being said, Okay, move that along, let's go

1516
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: back to our guys. Yeah. I was so proud of

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01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 1: how we performed on Thursday. I mean I would I

1518
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: expected us to win, but not like that. I mean,

1519
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: Josh turned it on in the second half and the

1520
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: defense just showed up. I really think we really have

1521
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: a chance this here, man. I just I think we

1522
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 1: got a shot on Monday night because I mean that's

1523
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: our first home game. I may have a chance to

1524
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: go to it. So I'm hoping to get out of

1525
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: work a couple hours early so I can get there.

1526
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: But um, I'm really excited about this year man, And

1527
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, I just wanted to call him. Yeah,

1528
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: commented on it, and but uh, I love you guys.

1529
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: Always listen to you every day at work and but uh, yeah,

1530
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on the rest of the season. Guys,

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01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thankful Dennis. We're just about out of time

1532
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: in this segment, so we'll take a break here, but

1533
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: we'll answer that question when we come back here. On

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1535
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:39,400
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1536
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,360
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1537
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: the Coach of the Week awards. Sweet Home coach Jeremy

1538
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: Zimmer has been named the week to Buffalo Region Coach

1539
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: of the Week after he led the Panthers to a

1540
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 1: forty nine fifteen win over the north Tonawanda this past weekend.

1541
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: In Section five Rochester Region, it's Bolivar Richburg coach Steve

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01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: Smith as his Wolverine's defeated Wellsville forty two twenty four.

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01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: His team now two and on the season. Is the

1544
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,879
Speaker 1: first year the program is participating in eight man football

1545
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: in Section five. Each Coach of the Week winner will

1546
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: receive a one thousand dollars grant from the Buffalo Bills

1547
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: and add Pro Sports quickly answered Dennis's question, Steve, he

1548
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,839
Speaker 1: thinks they've got a shot this week against the Titans.

1549
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 1: So do the Vegas oddmakers they're given the Bills. They're

1550
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: labeling them a ten point favorite in this game. Yeah,

1551
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it'll be closer that I thought.

1552
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 1: This would be a much better game. This will be

1553
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 1: a much better game this week because the Tennessee is

1554
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: a really good football team and they took a loss

1555
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: last weekend, which will highly motivate them to stay in it.

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01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: They have a hard team to match up against. They're

1557
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 1: very physical. I watched him play on film against the

1558
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 1: Giants this last week, and while the Giants did some

1559
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: good things on him, it took him a half to

1560
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 1: get it together. Tannehill can still sling it. I think

1561
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: the question is will they score enough points to keep

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01:28:57,880 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 1: up with the Bills, And I would say yeah, because

1563
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 1: they've got the ability to limit the number of possessions,

1564
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: So the Bills have a hard time scoring a lot

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01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 1: of points because they won't get them any chances. Yeah,

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01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: I think the Bills could make this an ugly game

1567
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: if they're executing the way they did against the Rams.

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01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 1: I just think the Titans have stepped back to the

1569
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: rest of the pack in the AFC just a little bit,

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01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 1: and the Bills have stepped up and declared themselves an

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01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 1: elite team. I don't I think it's going to be

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01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 1: around that number. I think they win by ten. Steve

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01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 1: and I back with Mart to morrow. We'll see it

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Speaker 1: one