1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Hulet's go, let's go, 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Let's go get my giants. Give me some gum. Part 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: of the Giants podcast Network. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Let's roll. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: I am John Schmelk. Today we welcome in our team 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: that we like to bring in every time the Giants 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: play internationally. That is the guys in the Big Blue 10 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: UK and Ireland Podcast, Craig Rigdon, Dan Aylett and Shane Whitehouse. 11 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: There colleague Kevin McManus camp be with us today, but 12 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: happy to talk to the trio here about the international 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: scene in the NFL and the New York Football Giants. Gentlemen, 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: how are you doing today? 15 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: Welcome John, Thank you for having us. Hope you having 16 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: a good day as well. 17 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are so Dan. Why don't we start with 18 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: you here and then you guys can kind of just 19 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: take any direction you want. I get the sense that 20 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: the Germans in their core are maybe even bigger NFL 21 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: people than the folks over in the UK war before 22 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: they NFL started going there a few years ago, those 23 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: probably a little bit of a thicker base there from 24 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: the history with NFL. You're up, just give me some 25 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: insight into Germany, the fan base, the excitement level, and 26 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: how maybe it's a little bit similar different to what 27 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Giant fans may have encountered with the Giants playing in 28 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: the UK have got a few times already. 29 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think the German fan base is passionate. 30 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: Like you said, they've had a a more of a longer, 31 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: longer standing following the game obviously with the NFL Europe 32 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: like you said, and they've had, you know, they've had 33 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: a passion for this this game for a long time, 34 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: and we've sort of you know, joined them afterwards in 35 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: the sort of mid two thousands, well me personally joined 36 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: him in the mid two thousands, and it's just sort 37 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: of grown from there. Obviously the first game back in 38 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: O seven and with the Giants coming over in O seven, 39 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: it's sort of made me interesting a lot more interested 40 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: in the game than was previously. So the fan base 41 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: in Germany is definitely a passionate one, and they're definitely 42 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: excited for the Giants coming over for the first time, 43 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: playing a regular season the game there, and we're all 44 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: looking forward to being immune to. 45 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: What's the demanding guys for, like the tickets and just 46 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: people trying to get into these games? Is the third year, 47 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: I believe, right for Germany, you would Mahomes last year, 48 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: Brady the year before that, coming in really good game 49 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: last year. There is the demand still really off the charts. 50 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think I was the one 51 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: who was lucky enough to hit the tickets for US, 52 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: and I think I was about one hundred and twenty 53 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: twenty thousandth in the queue and managed to pick up 54 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: maybe the last few tickets about two minutes before they 55 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: sold out. I think there were people who were in 56 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: the queue and it hit over a million at one point. 57 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: So when you're joining and you have a million people 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: in front of you, I think that's time to give up. 59 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: Because I'm not sure what the capacity on the Alians is, 60 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: but it's definitely less than one hundred and twenty thousand, 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: So if I was lucky enough, I can't imagine they were. 62 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: But the demand's been there for years, you know, every 63 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: year that they've done it in Germany, the ticket hughes 64 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: have been up in the millions, and they've been quite 65 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: lucky with the teams that they got Obviously, they've had Seattle, 66 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: New England, they had the Chiefs out there as well, 67 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: so they've had some big names. And I don't think 68 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: you can really underestimate the pull of the Giants internationally either. 69 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Shane, when I go do with that, then 70 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: is there a pretty decent Giant fan based thing in Germany? 71 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: Is this going to be a crowd that's dominated by 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Giant fans rather than Carolina Panther fans even though it's 73 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: a Panther home game. 74 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 75 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, a couple of years ago we 76 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: had the game at Tottenham and that the German the 77 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: Giants from Germany came over and they brought a massive 78 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: following over here. And I think when you tore that 79 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 4: in with the fact that, you know, the Giants have 80 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: got a pretty good record when they're not playing in 81 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: America of everything, you know, that's going to be a 82 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 4: key as to why fans want to turned up as 83 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: well as that they're probably more hopeful of getting a win. 84 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: But you know, the German fans that are you know, 85 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: I think that they're already motivated to have the any way. 86 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 4: But I think probably because the UK of have had 87 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: the joints three three times now probably can want to 88 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: put a little bit more and a little bit further 89 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 4: and quind of show what the Giants chose Germany as 90 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: they're kind of you based team. 91 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah three and zero in those recent national games, international games. Rather, 92 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: they've had success out there, which is great. So why 93 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: don't we turn our attention to the actual game here, guys, 94 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna I'm gonna hand off the host 95 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: in duduced to you for about three four minutes here 96 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: get into it with your two guys. What do you 97 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: expect from the Giants coming into this game and kind 98 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: of what you've seen recently and kind of where your 99 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: guys as a show in a group is as to 100 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: where the Giants are now heading into game number ten, 101 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: believe it or. 102 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 3: Not, I mean, you'd be wrong to say it's been 103 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: an exciting start of the season. I think, you know, 104 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: we all went into the year with relatively high expectations 105 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: and it's just it's just all come cushing down over 106 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: the last nine weeks. And I mean we've seen some 107 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: okay performances, you know, this past weekend being one of them. 108 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: But this the offense this year just hasn't clipped for 109 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: whatever reason, and obviously a lot of that is it's 110 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: been sort of finger fingers pointing towards Daniel Jones. It's 111 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: not just down to him, you know. The offense is 112 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: a team, they're a collective and they work together, and 113 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: it's it's just been frustrating as a Giants fan to 114 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 3: see just just not competitive football over the last ten years, 115 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: really since we've really been successful in this league. And 116 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: I don't know about you guys, but I mean we 117 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: we've week in week out, we sort of we talked 118 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: for each game. We review each game, and we preview 119 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: each game, and there's a little bit of hope going 120 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: into the when we're doing the preview episodes on a 121 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: Thursday evening, and by Sunday night Monday morning, that hope 122 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: is gone. And by Tuesday when we're recording our review episodes, 123 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 3: it's just all out sort of venting session. 124 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: We called it. 125 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: We actually call them our therapy sessions because it is 126 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: like therapy talking about these games. I mean, I don't 127 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 3: know about you guys, but you have that little bit 128 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: of hope going the weekend, and then it's completely dashed 129 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: come Sunday. 130 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this past Sunday, we had our UK 131 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: Giants meet up with the Code co hosted with the 132 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: UK Giants Fans on Facebook, which is a group we 133 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: have over here, and I think the numbers we were 134 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 2: hoping for at the beginning of the season were maybe 135 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: halved as to what we actually got on Sunday, but 136 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: we still had hope. You know, we watched the game 137 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: and we enjoyed it together and you know, we critique 138 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: it and one thing, as Dan rightly said, is we 139 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: enjoy doing the review and the preview podcast and it 140 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: just gives us an maybe a slightly better way of 141 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: breaking down a game and looking at a game maybe objectively, 142 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: slightly more than some of the other fans of the UK. 143 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: And that's one thing that we love and our listeners love, 144 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: is that we're able to kind of break it down 145 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: on that molecular level and maybe look at it maybe 146 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: more as American sports fan and then as a British 147 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: fan looking at an American sport. But the meetup was 148 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: was tough to a degree. I do think that we 149 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: still have some optimism going into the Panthers game this weekend. 150 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it's two teams who really haven't set the 151 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: world alight this season, and the Carolina team, who's still 152 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: to this moment that we're recording, I don't think they've 153 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: actually chosen a quarterback yet, which is indicative of exactly 154 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: how that player is going for them. So it's two 155 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: teams who, you know, they might be in the ascendancy 156 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: after a win, but two teams who really need a 157 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: kind of good git right game as opposed to a 158 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: close git right game. You're chains normally are optimist, shall 159 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: I say optimist? No, he is the most pessimistic of 160 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: all of us. So the interesting obviously to see how 161 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: he views this this weekend's game. 162 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the one thing that we 163 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: all kind of do every week is we review the 164 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: last game, then we preview the upcoming game, and and 165 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: really stilly, we watch over and say, year, you know what, 166 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: look at our record. The offense just isn't quite doing 167 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 4: what we what we wanted to do, So we're going 168 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: to predict a lost more more times than not in 169 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: all honesty. 170 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: But then I think, come game die. When that you know, kickoff. 171 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: Happens, some sort of hope gets pulled into us and 172 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: we'll actually, you know, you get a couple of drives 173 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 4: and you start thinking, oh yeah, maybe we can do this. 174 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 4: We we force the oppositions to go three and out 175 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 4: and it's kind of the hope that kills you at times, 176 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 4: to be honest, But you know, I mean, you know, 177 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: I don't know what I'll predict for this this upcoming 178 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 4: weekend game of I've not decided yet, but either way, 179 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: you know, I'll be hopeful and optimistic when when the 180 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: game starts. And kind of one of the things that 181 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: that's big over hear and what was big with the 182 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 4: watching the Washington defeat on Sundays when we did the meetups. 183 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 4: We met up at the start of the season for 184 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: the season opener, and we met up for this past weekend. 185 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: You know, the NFL is still growing a little bit. 186 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: And look, you know, not a moy personal nights or 187 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: you know, really follow it. Obviously, I'll get to share 188 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 4: these moments with these guys and ignxts. The defeats just 189 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 4: a little bit easier to tech when you're watching it. 190 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 4: We've fellow fans rather than kind of you know, I mean, 191 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 4: no one to talk to, you've got someone to vent towards, 192 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 4: and we will bank off each other, which I think 193 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: definitely helps, and that includes the community that we've built 194 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: that interacts with willso match dies and every time we 195 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 4: record You're ready for a change? 196 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: Pay Day comes early with Citizens, So go to that retreat, 197 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: new you moves to the country. Now you're raising goats 198 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: and launching a lifestyle brand. 199 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: Are you ready for all that? Life breaks? Giants Lion. 200 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: The podcast is brought to you by Citizens, the official 201 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: bank of the Giants. From gaming these celebrations, your everyday 202 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: financial needs, big new fans and can get the most 203 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: out of every moment with Citizens. Learn more a Citizens 204 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: bank dot com slash Giants. So you're right, guys, The 205 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: Giants right now are fifteen point four points per game, 206 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: fewest points per game in the National Football League. So 207 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: I think if you want to get a common thread 208 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: throughout the year has been the offenses inability to score points. 209 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: But you look a last week's game and the offense 210 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: actually played pretty well, and all of a sudden, the 211 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: defense lets you down the goal. Week prior to that, 212 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: you have the kickoff the puntlow return for a touchdown 213 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: against the Steelers that you're allowed to happen. Special teams 214 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: get you. You're the game where Graham gonna hurt this hamstring. 215 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: Special teams gets you in that game. And this isn't 216 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: a season. This is the kind of the way I've 217 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: been phrasing it over here. This isn't a season like 218 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: last year when once all the offensive linemen go out, 219 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas is and there you're playing your third string 220 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: quarterback and you're end to every game. You just sitting 221 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: there hoping maybe at halftime it's closed so we can 222 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: figure out a way to squeeze something out. You know, 223 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: aside from the Eagles game and the Vikings game, they've 224 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: been competitive in a lot of these games. They've been 225 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: one score. Every other game has been a one score 226 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: game in the fourth quarter. Unlike twenty twenty two, they 227 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: haven't been able to pull them out. It's either been 228 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: lack of big plays, guys playing above the x's and o's, 229 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: or flat out mistakes like drops or things like penalty 230 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: you shooting themselves in the foot and all three acts 231 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: bests at the game, and just a frustration level where 232 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: I think this team is more talented than the twenty 233 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: twenty two team was made the playoffs and won a 234 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: playoff game. I think this team's better but unlike that 235 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: team in twenty two, they just instead of figuring out 236 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: ways to you know, win games at the end, they're 237 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: figuring out a way to lose games at the end, 238 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: which is kind of what for me at least, has 239 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: made this season so frustrating. 240 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think what we've seen as well is 241 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: a lack of complimentary football. We're not seeing we're not 242 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: seeing the offense. And you know how many times this 243 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 3: year have we seen that the defense do their thing 244 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 3: and get three and out or force so fumble and 245 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 3: give the offense the opportunity to put points on the 246 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: board and they just don't take the opportunity. Yep. Special 247 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: teams as well, you know, there's been issues on special 248 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: teams like returns and obviously we're on our third kicker 249 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: now with for the season, on our second punter as 250 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 3: well for the season, and it's just kind of like 251 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 3: not everything is clicking and not everything is sort of 252 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: falling into place for us to be able to win 253 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: a game. And like you said, like you know, good 254 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: teams find a way to win. Bad teams find a 255 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: way to lose. And this isn't a bad team collectively 256 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: as a whole, Like you said, the rush is probably 257 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: more talented than it was in twenty twenty two, but 258 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: for some reason, it's just not far on all cylinders. 259 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: And you know, you look at various different social media outlets, 260 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: and there's always someone blaming the coaches. There's already someone 261 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: blaming in the quarterback. There's always someone blaming a receiver 262 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: for dropping the ball. There's already always someone blaming you know, 263 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: defensive secondary for not making an interception or soft coverage. 264 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: And it's like it can be all of these things combined, 265 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 3: or it could just be the fact that we just 266 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: don't have the luck, you know, the rub you know, 267 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 3: just the rubber of the green almost and it just 268 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: the frustrating thing is we are close to winning games, 269 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: but like you said, those games that are really close, 270 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: we just don't get over the line. And I don't 271 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: know what it is, but it's just not happening this year. 272 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: There's a lot to be said for what you said 273 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: that about implementary football and having it in all phases. 274 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: You know, are you rightly mentioned with special teams has 275 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: been decimated. Andrew Thomas is out and obviously that's not 276 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: going to be a specific roots cause, but it's obviously 277 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: not going to help when your best offensive player potentially 278 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: is not on the field at that time. But one 279 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: other thing that we do have is a hell of 280 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 2: a young roster, like one of the youngest in the league. 281 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: And I think that that's a real big point that 282 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: I think maybe we don't pick up on as often 283 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: as maybe we should that do we just kind of 284 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: have to eat the pain for this season, maybe one 285 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: more season, in order for us to reap the benefits 286 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: because we do have pieces. You know, you look at 287 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: the draft class from this year, you look at Nubin, 288 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: you look at Phillips, you look at neighbors. They've all 289 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: performed to you know, like steady pro level in games. 290 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: There's just not the consistency there, which is what you 291 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: expect from a rookie class. And I do think that 292 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: the changing of the DC to Shane Bowen obviously that 293 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: then has a lot of our veteran players having to 294 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 2: I can guess some of their schemes that they're having 295 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: to learn. So I think there's a lot of learning 296 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: happening this year at the Giants, and maybe that's contributed 297 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: to some of the issues that you see on the field. 298 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: How about you Shane, what do you think. 299 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day of 300 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 4: the National Football League is one is the most competitive 301 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 4: league out there, and I think the margin for Ray 302 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 4: is soul for you and we've not quite got that 303 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 4: balance yet as to where it is. I mean, you know, 304 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: you hear decks and burns of what both said that, 305 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: Like Dan just said, it's not a bad team. I 306 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: know that that kind of close. I mean, obviously it's 307 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 4: going to be an interesting offseason when we get there. 308 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: Obviously there's questions about the quarterback position at the moment 309 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: and what's going to happen there and could the changes 310 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: of the guard there potentially see our fortunes change. 311 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 5: Who knows what? Worry about that when we kind of 312 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 5: get to it. 313 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: You know, at the end of the day, we've still 314 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: got Silver remind competitive for the rest of the season. 315 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: Still fans that are going to turn up week after 316 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: week wanting to see the compective team out there. But 317 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 4: you know, I think it's Craig what you said, you know, 318 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 4: or Dan. Good teams form ways to win and bad 319 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: teams foint ways to lose. And I think the joints 320 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: is it something like four over the last six or 321 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: six of the last seven years, I've had an opening. 322 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: I've lost the first losing record the first eight games 323 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: of the season, So I just think it losing is 324 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: kind of just what they used to kind of thing, 325 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 4: But that shouldn't be the way that it is, and 326 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: I think when that can overcome that, you know, hopefully 327 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 4: then we can start to see a little bit of 328 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: change of fortunes. 329 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: Big picture question, I want all three of you guys 330 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: to answer this. You're probably gonna have different opinions long 331 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: term for this team for them to take that next 332 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: step and get to the level that we all want 333 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: them to get to. Aside from the quarterback position, let's 334 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: push that aside, what either player is most important for 335 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: this roster to develop into a star for them to 336 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: take the next step or at what spot do you 337 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: think they need to make a key addition to get 338 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: improvement in that area for this team to again get 339 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: where he wanted to go, excluding the quarterback position. Obviously 340 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: understanding that's the easy answer that no one, I think 341 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: everyone knows that's what people are going to answer. But 342 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: if it's not the quarterback, then dance start with you. 343 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: What do you think it would be. 344 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: I mean, for me, it's it's a secondary, it's corner 345 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: Deontay Banks is a great talent, and I think last 346 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: year in his rookie years as cornerback two, he excelled 347 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: in that role and he he had a really really 348 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: stellar rookie year. This year's come out as you know, 349 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: second second season CB one and he struggled. Is that 350 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: position too big for him as as that sort of first, 351 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: first choice cornerback. I think maybe it is at this 352 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: point in time in his career, in his development. I 353 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: think we in the off season, in sort of free agency, 354 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: we need to look at bringing in a veteran cornerback 355 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 3: that has been there and done it in this league 356 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: and has played that position for multiple years. I think 357 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: if we brought a player in, you know that's that's 358 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: had multiple years of experience at that position, that can 359 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: help him take that step and make that step to 360 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: become a better player all round, you know, become better 361 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 3: in coverage, become better just you know, we saw his 362 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 3: little mistake at the weekend against Washington by you know, 363 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: one on one against Terry McLaurin and he sort of 364 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: leads him inside and he just goes outside and a 365 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: veteran doesn't make that mistake or very rarely will make 366 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 3: that mistake. So for me, corner is such an important position. 367 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 3: Our secondary is so young as well. You look at 368 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: you know, Cordell Flop, We've got, you know, Drew Phillips, 369 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: We've got there's the really really young players there, and 370 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: I think they really need that trusted veteran that's got 371 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: a few years experience to give them that leadership and 372 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: give them that sort of a guide in light maybe. 373 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 3: So yeah, for me, it's corner great. 374 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: The corner was pretty much going to be my kick. 375 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: I think it's a unanimous kind of area of need 376 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: for the Giants. You know, we've just released Nick McLoud, 377 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: which is a slightly strange decision, but Adri Jackson's supposed 378 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: to be the vet there that the dory is not 379 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 2: seeing the field as much. And obviously he came in 380 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: halfway through the season, so it wasn't like we were 381 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: chomping at the bit to get him early. But if 382 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: you look at a player who maybe could become a 383 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: corner stone that we currently have on the roster, I 384 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: don't really think you can look past JMS at the 385 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: at the center position. I think the center position is 386 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: so underrated because you know, the quarterback and the center 387 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: know each other pretty damn well because they no really 388 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: stood stood pretty close to each other, and the whole 389 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 2: mechanic of an offensive play starts with the center snapping 390 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: the ball to the quarterback. So regardless of who ends 391 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: up being there, the corner is going to be. Sorry, 392 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: the center is going to be that that corner stone 393 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 2: that really helps with the fluidity of the play. And 394 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: JMS has had a rough start maybe last year, but 395 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: I think he's come on leads and bounds this year 396 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: and if he just continues that progression, we're looking at 397 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: somebody who can anchor the line for years and years 398 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: to come, and that that's what you need. You need 399 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: consistency at that position because if you're trapping and changing 400 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 2: every year like we did for a few years, I 401 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: just think it kind of makes it harder to try 402 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: and instill confidence not only on the line, but in 403 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: the quarterback as well. 404 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that Dan's then al in terms of 405 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: cornerback one hundred percent there, but just kind of a 406 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 4: different answer. I'd probably say the defensive line and in 407 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 4: terms of the depth there because you know, you notice 408 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 4: when dextloyance, he's the best defensive player in the National 409 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: Football there's no questions about it. You know, with ere date, 410 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 4: he should be up up for contentional Defensive Player of 411 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: the Year. But you do notice that when he steps 412 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 4: off the field, you can see him missing. Every time 413 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: there's a big run, you look and you look, oh, 414 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: you're deck signing on the field. But then outside of that, 415 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: if you look at the edge, obviously Thibodeau is injured 416 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 4: at the minute. 417 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, we've got Brian Burns in for five years. 418 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 4: But as easy going to be a free agent in 419 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 4: the off season, there's chatter about potentially being traded the 420 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: deadline this week to die I believe it is. 421 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 5: And then even. 422 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 4: If he doesn't get traded, he's going to be a 423 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 4: free agent. What money is he going to potentially want. 424 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 4: Let's face facts, he's a top ten past shot in 425 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: the National League right now. 426 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 5: I think he's nine four tenth in terms of sacks. 427 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 4: So for me, it's kind of the depth at the 428 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 4: defensive line edge position as well, and kind of you know, 429 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: we do really struggle with the run. No matter what 430 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: we do, it seems to be you know, when we 431 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 4: are shined bo when one of the things that Brian 432 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: Diebal Turnin said was about Bowen's run defense and how 433 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 4: good it was in Tennessee. But yet when dex comes 434 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 4: off that field, it's something that we still seem to 435 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 4: struggle with year after year. 436 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: No great answers, guys. I think all of you guys 437 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: had things right out of the park. 438 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: You love turf, you're good at it, so you start 439 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 3: a turf fizz business grows, are savings grow? 440 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: Become the most celebrated name in terms? Are you ready 441 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: for all that life? 442 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 5: Rings? 443 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: Giants Total's brought to you by Citizens, the official bank 444 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: of the Giants. Citizens will donate seven hundred and fifty 445 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: dollars of the Giants Foundation for each scoring drive during 446 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four season. More and more a Citizens 447 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: bank dot com slash Giants. What do eat? You guys 448 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: think of what you see that out of elaite neighbors? 449 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: So far, Dan start with you and then you can 450 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: go around the horn. 451 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: I mean the first two three games before is before 452 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 3: his concussion, and that the offense is pretty much running 453 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: through him. You know, the amount of targets over the 454 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: first few games he had was I think, and you know, 455 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 3: we've never seen the lives of that before, and he 456 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 3: just looked like the real deal. He looked like at 457 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: the talent level was through the roof and we'd have 458 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: found an absolute still with a sick Labyll pick. Obviously, 459 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: since the concussion, he's not been as productive, but I 460 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: think because you know, we've had more of a run 461 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 3: game since then, so there's not necessarily having to go 462 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: through him all the time. He's potentially been let down 463 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: by the amount of drops he's had, and you know, 464 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 3: and the look on Saturday with him talking to Jane 465 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: Daniels on the sideline in the fourth quarter and the 466 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 3: time out isn't a great look either. So maybe he 467 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: needs to sort of, I think, be a B but 468 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 3: be a bit more, a little bit more aware of 469 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: what to do and what not to do during a game. 470 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: But I think potentially potential there to be Odell Beckham, Like, 471 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: I think, you know, he can potentially help this team 472 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: to success, and I think he's he's definitely got a 473 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 3: huge amount of talent, but it's it's been an up 474 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 3: and down rookie year for him so far, and I think, 475 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: you know, going to go into the second half of 476 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: the year, after the bye week, I think we really 477 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 3: really need to see him sort of, you know, iron 478 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: out the mistakes and iron out the drops and really 479 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: sort of help this team to progress and get a 480 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 3: few wins under a belt. 481 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: And of what you guys wanted on Tyrone Chersey and 482 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: said you can do that too, Craig. 483 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe we could call Brian Dabele Nostradamus. But 484 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: obviously during Hard Knocks he spoke. He spoke to the 485 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: Lak neighbors about frustrations and you know what happens when 486 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: you get frustrated, and I think we're kind of seeing 487 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: that a little bit now after the last few weeks, 488 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: where he's starting to get frustrated with maybe some of 489 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: either the play calls or the fact that the ball's 490 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: not going to him where he wants it, because he's 491 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: still getting the targets. And I do think that he's 492 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: going to be a phenomenal receiver for us. And as 493 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: Dan rightly said, you know, it does almost feel like 494 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: the second coming of Beckham, which is easy to say 495 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: because he's an LSU wide receiver, but LSU produce, that's 496 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: all they seem to do at that position. Is produced. 497 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: So it's nice to see that you mentioned Tyrone. Tracy. 498 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: What a find that is converted wide receiver to running back. 499 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: I mean, we should have given him more touches early. 500 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 2: He comes in when Singletary goes out for that one game, 501 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, we have one hundred yard 502 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: rusher on our hands. And the one thing that I 503 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: really really like about Tracy is he's a downhill runner. 504 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 2: For seasons, I've been screaming for somebody who just runs. 505 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: It's central, Like, we don't need to run between the 506 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: tackle outside of the tackles every single time we have 507 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 2: a runner, Like, can we just please just go between 508 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: the garden the center and pick up a few yards, 509 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: because if there's one thing that we've noticed with him 510 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: is that you're picking up the chip yards, the twos, 511 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 2: the threes, the fours, and as long as you get 512 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 2: a couple of threes in a four, you're gonna get 513 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: a first down. So it's just nice to kind of 514 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: see us maybe open up the play book a little 515 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 2: bit by leaning on him a little bit. And don't 516 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: forget he is a slightly older player as well, but 517 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: he doesn't have as much tread on the tires, as 518 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: they say, with a running back. You know, he hasn't 519 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: been doing the position for that long. So I'm really 520 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: really looking forward to seeing what he can bring, because 521 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: it does look like he is number one at the 522 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: moment in the terms of that room. 523 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, we've with elite neighbors. I mean, 524 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 4: how can you not get excited by what potentially he's got. 525 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 4: What he's shown through the first half of the season, 526 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: he just makes you think, you know, once he's used 527 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 4: to the league and he cuts out the jobs, I mean, 528 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: he's having a few jobs. Is the jobs the biggest 529 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 4: problem for the Joints offense right now? Probably not if 530 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 4: we if we're completely honest so that they're not ideal, 531 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 4: of course not, But you know, it's not the reason 532 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 4: we are losing week in week out at the end 533 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 4: of the day, And you know what, I think we're 534 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: gonna remember with Malik Nabors, he's a rookie at the 535 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 4: end of the day, he's only halfway through his first season. Yeah, 536 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 4: he's probably starting to get a lot more kind of 537 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 4: double coverage now. Team's giving him a lot more attention, 538 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 4: and he would have seen that when he was in 539 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 4: l S when he was at LSU in college. 540 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 5: The difference is rather than that having. 541 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 4: You know, another occupational guy covering him like he was 542 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 4: in college, guys who really sickly were there to you know, 543 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 4: pass out from university and not looking to go into 544 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 4: the National Football League. He's now coming up against guys 545 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 4: whose job is to lock him down. That that's the 546 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 4: reason they've paid and that's the reason they played the 547 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 4: big Bucks. So I think, you know, there's going to 548 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: be some adapting for but I think when he kind 549 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 4: of gets se you know, he can easily be one 550 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: of the best war receivers in the league and follow 551 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 4: on from the LSU trend. And in regards to Tyrone Tracy, 552 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 4: how obviously to fear and he gets some production from 553 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 4: a free frame pick. You know, it seems like these 554 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 4: days three picks is something that the joints have kind 555 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 4: of struggled for the last few years, and now they're 556 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 4: starting to get that production and it's great to see. 557 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 4: You know, he's a psychoe Barkley, not quite not quite 558 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: as electrical or as exciting as him, but in regards 559 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 4: to the way that he you know, get lowers his 560 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 4: pads and kind of gets staying field quickly. 561 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 5: You absolutely love to see. 562 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: It, and obviously a much cheaper option to getting him 563 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: in the draft rather than having the patach on what 564 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: you did in the offseason. And that's look, and I 565 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: think that's the best argument of why you don't pay 566 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: a running back, that you can find a guy like 567 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: Tracy in round five, right, and I think we've seen 568 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: with running backs you can do that a couple more. 569 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure, much like you guys, or much like myself, 570 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: you guys have been tired about talking about the Giants 571 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: offensive line for the last ten years and how they're 572 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: going to figure things out. It's far from perfect. You 573 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: would rather have done it through the draft. You have 574 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: to bring in some vets. That's fine. You pivot, you 575 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. But I think for once, 576 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: the offensive line isn't what's holding this team back. Aside 577 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: from the left tackle problem once Andrew Thomas went out, 578 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: I think they were okay against in the prior game, 579 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: but you know, the two games before, I think you 580 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: had some issues. Are you guys just as pleased as 581 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: I am that the offensive line isn't this? You know, 582 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: anchor weighing you down on every single thing you try 583 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: to do when you talk about this team massively. 584 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: I mean we've we've spoken about a length on our 585 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: podcast and for the last couple of years. You know, 586 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 3: the offensive line, the offensive line, the offensive line. The 587 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 3: fact that we haven't had to mention the offensive line 588 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: much this season is telling in itself. Yeah, obviously with 589 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: the with the Andrew Thomas injury, it's a bit of 590 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 3: it's disappointing, and you know, having our best, one of 591 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: the best attackles in the league go for the rest 592 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 3: of the season with an injury is is extremely disappointing. 593 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 3: But you know, yes, we've had Hubbard coming in the 594 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 3: last couple of games. He may not be great in 595 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: past protection, but he's he's definitely helping in the run 596 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: game for sure. And it's almost like, so if we 597 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: can find someone that will compliment him at that position 598 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 3: that is good in past protection but not so much 599 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: in the run game, then maybe so they can sort 600 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 3: of like switching in out of the game. Who knows, 601 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: But it's just it's so nice just to have consistency. 602 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: Jermaine A. Luminau is at that right tackle spot. He's 603 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 3: made that position his own, and you know, Van Roten 604 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 3: and Runyan come in a guard just to bring just 605 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 3: that veteran presence on the line for the young center 606 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 3: in the middle of Like Crade mentioned him earlier, it's 607 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 3: early in his second year and he almost looks like 608 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: he's mature beyond his years because he's so far this year. 609 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: You haven't apart from the Covid Deane seconds the Eagles 610 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, we barely mentioned his name 611 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: and that's testament to him. And I think, you know, 612 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: it's great to have that consistency on the line that 613 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 3: we've seen so far, albeit at left tackle. We had 614 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: a few struggles recent, but that's injuries happen. You've got 615 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: to expect that. It's a physical game. So you know, 616 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: it just remains to be seeing what we do move 617 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: forward at left eckled. Will we stick with Hubbard, whether 618 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: we go with somebody else. You know, we'll find out, 619 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: no doubt after the Bible because there will probably be 620 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 3: some decisions made then. 621 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: Greg, you, is there like extra love for jamina I 622 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: Luminoor given his UK routs. I know he's spent a 623 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: lot of time in America by now, but you talk 624 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: to him and the way his certain words the accidents 625 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: will leak out from time to time like, oh yeah, 626 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: that's right, is it? Is there extra love for Illuminois 627 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: based on his heritage from where he's from. 628 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: Well, absolutely absolutely. I think that there was some excitement 629 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: for us when Jermaine joined the team were we went 630 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: back and forth with him on X a couple of times. 631 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: Nice over it, so you know, he's he's one of 632 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: those players. He's really engaging with the fans I think 633 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: on X, which is nice to see as well, like 634 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: he's not afraid to kind of speak his mind. I'm 635 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: not sure about his fashion fashion before a game that's 636 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: maybe beyond the British side of things. Maybe that's the 637 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: American in him coming out. That's definitely not one for us, 638 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: but you know, taking it on a slight tangent, it's 639 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: also nice because you know we have Graham Gano who's Scottish, 640 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: we have Jamie Gillen who's Scottish. You've got Duke of 641 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: Taareronnay who's Irish. Like the Giants of historically always been 642 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: a team that is not afraid to go international with 643 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: their players. You know, we've had Oci who was from 644 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: the UK as well. You know, there's always been there, 645 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: but I think it's yeah, it's nice to sort of 646 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: speak about Jermaine and also speak about the fact that 647 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: he's been so solid this season, like as a right tackle, 648 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: he's been everything we've missed for so long. And as 649 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: Dan said, you know, when you're not talking about the 650 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: offensive line, it's almost a good thing because they're just 651 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: doing their job. Like it's one of those unsung positions 652 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: where they probably don't get as much love as they 653 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: maybe should get because people, if you don't notice them, 654 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: they're doing a good job. They only really get pulled 655 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: up when they're not having a good game, and that's 656 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: when the sort of narrative comes out. I think Runyan 657 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: and Van Roten have been unsung heroes. I know they 658 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: don't grade well, but you know, there's only so much 659 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: you can read into gradings from certain publications. So I 660 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: think it's been much improved and it's just nice to have. 661 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: I know Thomas isn't here now, but up until the 662 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: point where Thomas was injured, every single member of that 663 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: five man offensive line had played every single snap on 664 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: offense yep. And that's something I genuinely cannot remember. The 665 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: last time we. 666 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: Saw absolutely and Jane. You know, he kind of mentioned 667 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: Jude mcaton they getting a chance to kick last week. 668 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: He's part of the International Pathway program. I got to 669 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: imagine given his roots, people are pretty pumped up to 670 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: see him kick the football last week. I'm gonna have 671 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: them the Giants little podcast on Fret. I have not 672 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: talked to him. I'm gonna talk to him either tomorrow 673 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: or Thursday, and pumped up to do it. Just your 674 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: thoughts on him, and do you guys have any answer 675 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: stuff on Jude I can ask him about that maybe 676 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: common knowledge that I might not be that familiar. 677 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, any anytime from this top 678 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 4: side of the pond gets picked up by the Giants, 679 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 4: there's always kind of a little bit of soft spot 680 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 4: there rooting for them. 681 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 5: So when he got picked. 682 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 4: Up in in the off season corner to attend the 683 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 4: MIDI camp, we were all rooting for him to corner 684 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 4: get get get a gig on the team corner thing. 685 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 4: And obviously he went through the International Pathway programs, doesn't 686 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 4: came towards the initial roster. And then obviously when you 687 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 4: see I mean when Gano went down, there's a little 688 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 4: bit of hope that maybe he'll be thrusting into it 689 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: there and it didn't quite happen. But then obviously we 690 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 4: have the second kicker going down and him stepping up there. 691 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 4: It was great to see him do it the weekend. I 692 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 4: do know that keV, who is another guy just a 693 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 4: podcast with us that can't be on tonight, dude actually 694 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 4: grew up twenty minutes away from where keV grew up 695 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 4: in Derry, I believe it is, And so you know 696 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 4: you can probably throw Derry out there to dude, and 697 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 4: you know that'll get that'll be off to a good 698 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 4: start with Inde. But you know, you know, if if 699 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 4: we could maybe see Jude kick like a game winning 700 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 4: field goal on on the weekend, I'm sure that please 701 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 4: the the international fans over here. 702 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: That'd be awesome. I think we'd love to see that too. 703 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: All right, final question, guys, and then I'll give you 704 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: a chance to talk abut everything you're doing so fans 705 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: know where to check you out and find you. Right now, 706 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: who's the most popular giant with international fans? Like? Who 707 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: are you seeing the most jerseys of? Who are fans 708 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: really kind of gravitating to? I like to see if 709 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: you guys are in agreement on this or you have 710 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: a couple of different opinions. 711 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: That's a great question. I think for me personally, it's 712 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: dexa Lawrence. 713 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm with you, young man. 714 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: I agree, he's just a human recking ball. And like 715 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: Shane said earlier, if he should be in the running 716 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: for Defensive Player of the other year because he's having 717 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: a year unlike any other, you know, he's he's just 718 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 3: he just epitomizes everything. There is no there is about 719 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 3: this Giants defense and the fact that he's a nose 720 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 3: tackle and he's leading the league in sacks so far 721 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 3: through nine weeks is unheard of. 722 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: You know. 723 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 3: The only other player really to do that is on 724 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 3: that sort of level is Aaron Donald and look what 725 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: happened with him, you know, multiple times Defensive Player of 726 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 3: the Year, multiple times vote all prone to the Pro Bowl, 727 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 3: and will likely be in the Hall of Fame very 728 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 3: very soon. So you know, he's playing at that sort 729 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: of level. And so yeah, he's definitely very popular on 730 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 3: our podcast, and he's no doubt popular over this solid 731 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 3: pond as well. 732 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: Do you guys agree with that it might be someone else? 733 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 2: I think I think Dexter Lawrence is the kind of 734 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 2: favorite there with the enough I don't have a dex 735 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: A Lawrence jersey so far this year. Bobby o'kaak and 736 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: mister Brian Burns has been the two purchases. I think 737 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 2: that that's kind of indicative though, of how the Giants 738 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: fans view the Giants steam at the moment. That they're 739 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 2: all defensive players so far. And I'm pretty sure I 740 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: could put money on where Shane's going to go for 741 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: potensially his answer here being on the offense. Probably the 742 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: only person that anyone's going to buy at the moment 743 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: on the offense. So let's see if I'm right. 744 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, first of all, you've got to give 745 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 4: the sexy Dexy the love we had the Deuty. He 746 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 4: is one of the most popular, but you know, could 747 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 4: number one Milik Nighbors overtech him absolutely. You know, if 748 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 4: I was to buy a jersey tomorrow's going to be 749 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 4: out of them two boys, and it'll probably just be 750 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 4: Dexord initially boy, just because he's been here a little 751 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 4: bit longer and I want to show him in that 752 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 4: love and shape him mate, you know, with the way 753 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 4: he's performed, especially over the corner of the last three 754 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 4: years has been absolutely outstanding. But one hundred percents think 755 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 4: that you know, Mileage is going to overtech that one. 756 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 4: I mean, the biggest one prior to this season would 757 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 4: obviously have been the guy that used to wear twenty six, 758 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 4: you know, And now we've got no really exciting or 759 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 4: offensive player to go for. And then we draft Molik 760 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 4: Neighbors and you've seen what he's done through the first 761 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 4: coint of eight weeks. He's been playing nine weeks morning 762 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 4: stoles games, He's missed free injuries. You know, he's going 763 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 4: to get fans excited. And I think number one to 764 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 4: start getting wapped to a lot more wellver the next 765 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 4: year or two. 766 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see twenty nine getting some love too 767 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: if he keeps producing a running back too. I guess 768 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: hee that being a Jersey. But look, I'm happy. I 769 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: was wondering how much overseas there was an appreciation for 770 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: like the work in the trenches from a guy like Dexter. 771 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm happy that fans understand exactly how unique he is 772 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: and how special he is be his man he is. 773 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: He has a lot of fun to watch, all right. 774 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: So Dan tell Us where everybody can find your guys, work, 775 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: your podcast, everything like that. And then I want to 776 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: predict him from each one of three of you guys 777 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: with the score for the game against the Panthers on Sunday, 778 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: and I will hold you to it. Dan lead us off. 779 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 3: Awesome. Yeah, Well, you can find us on x, Facebook 780 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 3: and YouTube as well. We're at bigle UK and Islands. 781 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 3: We are the UK and Ireland's only Giants podcast. We 782 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: were very active on our social media channels. You can 783 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 3: also find us on TikTok as well. Not so active 784 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 3: on there, but you know we're working on that. And 785 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 3: you know we've we've got, you know, a core of 786 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 3: die hard followers and you know, as much as much 787 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 3: as we can spread the love and and talk Giants 788 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 3: football to ladies that want to listen to it. You know, 789 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 3: we do this week and week out for the love 790 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 3: of the team. We are all fans at the end 791 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 3: of the day. But it's it's it's like Craig said earlier, 792 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 3: we sort of do it from a slightly different perspective, 793 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 3: so it's kind of it. It's just an absolute joy 794 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 3: see this week and week out, and you know, some 795 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 3: of the some of the connections we've made through doing 796 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 3: this as well is unbelievable. And obviously being on with yourself, John, 797 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 3: I've been a Chance fan since mid two thousands and 798 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 3: obviously our followed it worked for since then for a 799 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 3: long long time. So you know, it's absolutely joint of 800 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 3: pasure to be on with you dece evening and so 801 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 3: I really appreciate the love. 802 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:54,959 Speaker 1: Now predictions and my predictions. Let's go, do I go first? Yeah? 803 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 3: Go ahead, always go first. I mean it's a Carolina team. 804 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 3: Are they in the ascendancy? I don't know. They won 805 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 3: one game last weekend, but I think that the Giants. 806 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 3: I don't see them losing abroad. I don't see them 807 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 3: losing internationally. And you know, I I think it's going 808 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 3: to be a There's going to be more Giants fans 809 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 3: in that stadium in Munich on Sunday than they will 810 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 3: be pandas fans. We did the same twig on them 811 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen when we play the Rams in London. Yeah, 812 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 3: more Giants fans than they were Rams fans there and 813 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 3: it's a rogue game for the Giants. So I think 814 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 3: that'll be the same case on Sunday. Prediction I'm going 815 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 3: to go twenty three seventeen Giants, very very very close. 816 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: That's going to go twenty four to seventeen, So. 817 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: One score games. The Giants don't tend to win games 818 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: win more than one score, So I get it, Jane. 819 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: How about you? 820 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to stick with what I mentioned a 821 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 4: little while ago, and that's a mctammany kicking a game 822 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 4: winning field goal and the Giants Week twenty three twenty. 823 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: It. 824 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: Gentlemen. Hopefully I'll see you out there. I'm getting out 825 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: there with the team. Will be there Friday morning, well 826 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: for fans that are going to the game, will be 827 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: at the Hot Brour House that's kind of the Giants 828 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: home base of operations. We event there a fan event 829 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: on Friday night. Hopefully we'll see you guys out there. 830 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: Enjoy the game. Thanks so much for being with us today, man, 831 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 832 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 2: Thanks you, sir. 833 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: That's the Giants Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, 834 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: the official Bank of the Giants. We'll see you next time. Everybody,