Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty eight, episode.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into america shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, May twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: National tap Dance Day, All my Gregory Hinz fans Unite,
Speaker 2: National brown bag It Day, National Wine Day, Towel Day,
Speaker 2: Geek Pride Day, which looks like it's just like if
Speaker 2: you like video games of Star Wars rise up internationally,
Speaker 2: International Plastic Free Day, among many others. So's there you go, stack,
Speaker 2: this is tap dancing gonna come back.
Speaker 1: I feel like every time I see tap dancing in
Speaker 1: an old movie and they're really like doing it, well,
Speaker 1: I'm always like, man, that shit is cool.
Speaker 2: Did it every goay?
Speaker 1: I don't know if it yeah, maybe it just never
Speaker 1: went away. But like tap dancing and movies, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was the last movie that had like a real where
Speaker 1: they just solved the conflict with some tap dance.
Speaker 2: La la land are there tap dancing a little bit
Speaker 2: of tap dance?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah? There was price in tap dancing. That's why that's
Speaker 2: why I want to war. I mean, it's i think
Speaker 2: it's on TikTok. I've been watching there's like this black
Speaker 2: girl who's an amazing Irish step dancer and like killing it,
Speaker 2: like to the point where you're like, oh no, it's
Speaker 2: like you're changing the game of Irish step dancing. So
Speaker 2: it's it's it's alive. Well, I was saying there for
Speaker 2: the fancy footwork.
Speaker 1: Is it'sing in the NBA, why not on TikTok. You know,
Speaker 1: my name's Jack O'Brien aka whoa never let the Zeit
Speaker 1: Gang down? That is it was just in my head
Speaker 1: this morning when I woke up collect I'm so real
Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, mister
Speaker 1: Miles Grad.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm aka that also, I just thought
Speaker 2: up in my twilight of half waking up this morning
Speaker 2: and here we go. I've been thinking about you way
Speaker 2: star roll Roy Coole. I just wanted to merge you
Speaker 2: with my go Joe. Yes, I'm Lucas Madson. Oh you
Speaker 2: heard about Let's Field, do you do?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: Oh you're not think so far, because I just send
Speaker 4: my blood to Ever thinking of is I just sent my.
Speaker 5: Blood to Ever?
Speaker 2: Oh man, what a weird plot point for that character.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I know, shout out Frank Ocean and that
Speaker 2: had to have come from some weird CEO behavior, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure that came out of someone's like
Speaker 2: like autobiography.
Speaker 1: And I just thought it would be funny if I
Speaker 1: started freezing blocks of my blood and sending them out
Speaker 1: in the mail.
Speaker 2: Yes, man, you we were just listening.
Speaker 1: We were listening to an a cappella version of that
Speaker 1: song yesterday, and they didn't go for it. They didn't
Speaker 1: go high. They were cowards, And I was they were cowards.
Speaker 1: You nailed it. I'm so impressed.
Speaker 2: I Look, that's one of the few things I can
Speaker 2: do sometimes is a falsetto. And I think hearing those
Speaker 2: cowards in that college a cappella group and not go
Speaker 2: for the falsetto for that's absolute spineless cowards. That's a goward. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fu well, Miles. A little house keeping up top. We're
Speaker 1: gonna keep telling people that we are trying a new
Speaker 1: publication schedule out for the summer.
Speaker 2: First time in the history of the show.
Speaker 1: We're going to scale back to a mere eight episodes
Speaker 1: a week, use that extra bandwidth to try some new
Speaker 1: episode formats out.
Speaker 2: To kind of keep things fun. You know, you might
Speaker 2: you might hear a musical episode somewhere in the future.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we'll see. But for you the listener, the
Speaker 1: difference will be one episode on Friday, one episode on Monday,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, we'll be doing some different things on
Speaker 1: Tuesday's episode.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun. I think you guys are gonna
Speaker 2: like it. You're gonna love it.
Speaker 1: And also we are using these new formats to try
Speaker 1: and hear a little bit more from the listeners. We
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Speaker 1: of housekeeping up top. Thank you to our guest for
Speaker 1: sitting patiently by. Well, we do all of that. We
Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined by a hilarious pop culture
Speaker 1: expert who hosts the show Black People Love Paramore.
Speaker 2: It's so quoil.
Speaker 5: Is such a stretch. I don't even want to set
Speaker 5: that expert. I was listening to some episodes you, but
Speaker 5: thank you very I do appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. Yeah, we're happy to have you.
Speaker 2: When did you get that? I got to ask you,
Speaker 2: when did you get the idea for the podcast? Because
Speaker 2: I remember there was like a Nylon article years ago
Speaker 2: that was like, you know, black people love Paramore and yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you black and these people love Paramore too,
Speaker 2: because I fucked with Paramore heavy. You know, yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Got the idea after that Nyline article. I'm aware of
Speaker 5: it now, but I got the idea when my roommate,
Speaker 5: a white woman who I've lived with for ten years.
Speaker 5: We don't live together now for the first year, but
Speaker 5: we did ten years ago. She said that she hated Paramour,
Speaker 5: and personally, I felt like that was anti black, and
Speaker 5: so I decided, you know what, I'm going to give
Speaker 5: us the representation we desire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you love Paramore. Yeah, and on the podcast,
Speaker 2: you don't you talk about many other things, so it's
Speaker 2: not always specifically like Paramore I saw it.
Speaker 5: It's almost like never Paramore. Honestly, we talked about a
Speaker 5: whole bunch of other stuff. Yeah yeah, yeah, Anime.
Speaker 2: The Hills, the Hills, yea, the huge for Tony Hawk,
Speaker 2: Tony Hawk. Yeah, yeah, Haley too. You know I started
Speaker 2: off a Haley fan. I think also that what misery business.
Speaker 2: It just it started off in a way that I
Speaker 2: was like, what, this is a rock song and then
Speaker 2: let's go.
Speaker 5: It has a little group to it. You get into
Speaker 5: it like oh okay, yeah yeah, exactly exactly Phil Collins.
Speaker 5: I was surprised by Phil Collins. Yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah. Cool amazing.
Speaker 1: Well, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things
Speaker 1: we're talking about in the news section. Nicky Haley's transphobia
Speaker 1: is not working everywhere, work in some places, yeah, but
Speaker 1: kind of a specific take that doesn't doesn't work with independence.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna listen to some audio from a Nicky Haley.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just working material.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Moms for Liberty, which you'll be surprised
Speaker 1: to learn is fascist organization that is attacking school boards.
Speaker 2: Is like astro Turfs.
Speaker 1: You know, bunch of dark money going into this, and
Speaker 1: how people are actually fighting back against this bull working.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Some good news people fighting back and it's working.
Speaker 1: Some other good news whales are fighting back or dolphins
Speaker 1: orcas are sinking boats off Portugal and unprecedented coordinated attacks.
Speaker 1: The New York Times is calling them sail boats, but
Speaker 1: there's a lot of yachts at yachts going down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: New York Times doesn't want anybody to get any class
Speaker 1: consciousness involved with us. But yeah, they're sinking big sailing
Speaker 1: vessels sometimes known as yachts. So we'll just talk about
Speaker 1: all of that plenty more. But first, Sequoia, we like
Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 5: Okay, so about a year ago, there was a moment
Speaker 5: that went viral that was very old. It was Elmo
Speaker 5: on Jimmy Fallon right. He was cooking and the person
Speaker 5: who voice acts Elmo slipped into the New York accent
Speaker 5: by accident. That resurface on my Twitter timeline, but it
Speaker 5: wasn't the actual clip, it was just a reference to it,
Speaker 5: so I had to go search it because it truly
Speaker 5: had me on the floor for about five days straight.
Speaker 5: When I first saw it, I thought I was gonna
Speaker 5: pee my pants.
Speaker 2: I beg you fucking breathe.
Speaker 5: And if I really think about it too hard right now,
Speaker 5: I'll I'll actually ruin this podcast. And sorry laughing. So yes,
Speaker 5: if you have not seen that Almo clip, the black
Speaker 5: Elmo clip, hilarious, the funniest thing. Balsamic vinegar. It's so funny.
Speaker 2: Oh is that okay? Just how to dismiss me pointed out?
Speaker 2: Or is he he just keeps it moving.
Speaker 5: Almo notices it and says, that's a big word for Almo.
Speaker 2: It's by I see someone Wait if someone just doing
Speaker 2: the voiceovers onions extent from vinegar. Okay, you heard you know,
Speaker 2: Jimmy word to I need that bosomic vinegar very much.
Speaker 6: That.
Speaker 7: How do we get here? How did Elo get here?
Speaker 7: The garlic already started off a little garlic, it was garlic,
Speaker 7: and then it gets into balsamic vinegar and it's just hilarious.
Speaker 7: So yes, that was my most recent search.
Speaker 2: I love the I love this one lip sync lip
Speaker 2: dub of it on TikTok where this woman is like
Speaker 2: Saint running it down and when it gets a balsamic vinish,
Speaker 2: she got a bubble goose jacket on Yeah got on Sudden? Exactly?
Speaker 1: Is the Elmo voice somebody like from New York, like
Speaker 1: from the Bronx.
Speaker 5: I think he was from Billy if I'm not mistaken
Speaker 5: at the time, I think Elma was voiced by a
Speaker 5: man from a black man.
Speaker 2: From Philly that. If I'm wrong, he's actually from Baltimore.
Speaker 5: Okay, right, m gotcha?
Speaker 2: Gotcha? Yeah? What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 5: This one's very divisive. People hate me for it. Cheese cheeses,
Speaker 5: cheeses discussion and constantly I've had enough, let it go.
Speaker 2: I love the power of this take. If it's everywhere.
Speaker 5: If you can't cook your recipe without an abundance of
Speaker 5: cheese on top of it, you simply cannot cook and
Speaker 5: we can leave it at that.
Speaker 2: Wait can be very fine. Oh no, walk me through this.
Speaker 2: So what are you encountering out there where you're like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is this cheese?
Speaker 5: I go to a restaurant I'm like, oh, can I
Speaker 5: have the broccolini? You bring me broccolini with cheese on
Speaker 5: top of it? Why is there cheese on top of
Speaker 5: my vegetable?
Speaker 2: That I didn't want?
Speaker 5: That very good point, like I wanted a vegetable, Like
Speaker 5: I wanted a vegetable. Why is their cheese on top
Speaker 5: of it? You bring me truffle fries. Why is their
Speaker 5: cheese on it? Because they didn't say that. I just
Speaker 5: had truffle Why why is there? Why is there cheese
Speaker 5: on my trouble fries?
Speaker 2: I want that? Yeah, got to be in the mood.
Speaker 1: I will, first of all gladly admit I can't cook,
Speaker 1: and that's why I do a nice layer of cheese
Speaker 1: on at like cereal in the morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my god, just American cheese. Like he's putting over
Speaker 2: a dead body.
Speaker 5: He's like, okay, if we really want to talk about
Speaker 5: cereal to putting the milk first actually makes the most sense.
Speaker 2: Sorry, wow, talk to me about that too. No, I like,
Speaker 2: I love this. Wait, why milk first? And I love
Speaker 2: the just if.
Speaker 5: We just want to talk about science, okay, it allows
Speaker 5: the cereal to stay crisp longer because all of it
Speaker 5: is not getting super wet. You throw the milk in first.
Speaker 5: It's cold, Okay, it has to be cold. You put the.
Speaker 2: Cereal on the top, corn milk out at your house.
Speaker 5: I mean, you can't even put ice and if you want,
Speaker 5: that's that's a little great, just what you could put
Speaker 5: ice in if you want, and you put the cereal
Speaker 5: on top. Also cold. I keep the cereal refrigerated so
Speaker 5: that it stays crisps a long time. Don't wet it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know how much milk because you've done it for
Speaker 5: your whole life. If you're meat.
Speaker 1: Man, and then you're doing little scoops of the milk
Speaker 1: as you like pull the cereal off the top.
Speaker 2: That down, you get it. You got the you have
Speaker 2: the drop everything this like the dry pile up top.
Speaker 5: Basically I don't like the way that you you said that,
Speaker 5: but yeah.
Speaker 2: Ye just very just trying to help the listeners because
Speaker 2: it's very visual. So the base layer which is contacting
Speaker 2: the milk, do you ever do you scoop from the bottom.
Speaker 2: Do you take from the bottom so it slowly like
Speaker 2: moves down, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: You stab the cereal at an angle so that it
Speaker 5: goes straight down. Most of perpendicular and misses. Most of
Speaker 5: the cereal gets into the milk and you pick it
Speaker 5: back up.
Speaker 2: Okay, and you're just taking the wet layer with each bite,
Speaker 2: but it's newly wet.
Speaker 5: And you're taking the newly wet moist layer with each
Speaker 5: bite and putting your mouth for the most desirable experience
Speaker 5: that you can have with cereal.
Speaker 2: And what is your cereal of choice?
Speaker 5: Captain crunch but no crunch berries.
Speaker 2: Wow, someone's an adult.
Speaker 8: You know, no cheese, nothing but the sea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep okay, okay, okay, I see the crunch berries.
Speaker 2: All right. I feel like we've learned a lot that
Speaker 2: I I totally agree with you. Like, I am a
Speaker 2: huge cheese fan.
Speaker 1: I love a lot of cheese on everything, but the
Speaker 1: broccolini really fucks me up. Like it broccolini does not
Speaker 1: need it. And when when they put it on, it's
Speaker 1: just it does. It's usually a sign that it's not
Speaker 1: going to be that good.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. I had clam chowder recently, which one
Speaker 5: of my favorite foods that also puts cheese, but like
Speaker 5: it had like Manhattan, Manhattan.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes little more.
Speaker 5: No no, sorry, the white, the white, it was like
Speaker 5: all there were cheese in it. I asked, because I
Speaker 5: could taste it, and I asked and they were like, yeah,
Speaker 5: they put a little.
Speaker 2: Why for what? I've never heard of that at all,
Speaker 2: Like what kind of cheese, like yellow cheese, like.
Speaker 5: The white cheese. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: I guess like broccoli cheddar is a cheesy soup.
Speaker 1: So maybe they were trying to bring But that's a
Speaker 1: that's a mess.
Speaker 2: I was in d deservedly so.
Speaker 5: So DC you have to answer for that.
Speaker 2: Toe. Sometimes I'm looking at summers say that there's cream
Speaker 2: cheese and a lot of clams.
Speaker 5: There, that it must have been cream cheese. But I've
Speaker 5: never tasted it before, and I could.
Speaker 2: That's to the point where you're like, cheese.
Speaker 5: Cheesy clam chowder.
Speaker 2: Why right? I get that it's creamy obviously that's what
Speaker 2: we're gravitating towards. But the yeah, I don't, I don't
Speaker 2: know cheesy fish. Keep it cream cheese, and I'm disgusting.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like like the fish sandwich. You know what,
Speaker 2: that's cheese?
Speaker 5: People people people say, that's that's with cheese.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, gotta have that. Look again, look different strokes
Speaker 2: for different folks. Yeah, you have it. I appreciate you
Speaker 2: fighting back your your desire to vomit from him saying
Speaker 2: that you're I'm happy for you though, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 2: very diplomatic answer. I appreciate that. And are you anti
Speaker 2: cheese across the board or just like on certain.
Speaker 5: Foods across the board anti cheese. I do like fake
Speaker 5: cheeses though, like a nacho cheese sauce that you get
Speaker 5: from a movie theater, Cheetos cheese dust. You know, I
Speaker 5: like that. I love it.
Speaker 2: I'm just look at you're like, hey, I brought out
Speaker 2: a little cheese board for y'all, and you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: over here we have our cheese. This is some loose
Speaker 2: cheeto dust. You can just get that.
Speaker 5: I should do that for my birthday. I'm gonna host
Speaker 5: like a little thing for my birthday. I was gonna
Speaker 5: have a arhooery board. Maybe I'll put fake cheese on
Speaker 5: it just to troll people.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll bring it'll bring the
Speaker 2: elitist out of somebody, Like somebody's gonna be caught.
Speaker 1: This is not cheese, and it's not it's not a
Speaker 1: lactose thing. Because you are one of the foremost experts
Speaker 1: in how to consume milk with cereal.
Speaker 2: So it's you don't have a problem with lactose.
Speaker 1: You're out here in New England clam chowder with my
Speaker 1: cereal if not an almond.
Speaker 5: But I'll take a one percent if you have it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, keep your milk eleak.
Speaker 2: Yeah. What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 5: Magnesium glyconate for sleeping?
Speaker 2: That is so specific? God, magnesium? Sorry what glyconate?
Speaker 5: Magnesium glyconate? Specifically, magnesium comes in different forms. You can
Speaker 5: get a bunch of different little endings. The glycier one
Speaker 5: for sleeping in particular.
Speaker 1: Magnesium when the the number one auto complete for magnesium
Speaker 1: space and Google is glaconate. So it is it is
Speaker 1: us who are wrong, followed by magnesium and cheese, which
Speaker 1: is and cheese.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mag and cheese. Wait, so what is what? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Tell me where where did you hear about it? What
Speaker 2: is is it? Is it for helping? Is it like
Speaker 2: a sleep aid or what's going on?
Speaker 5: It is a sleep aid. I heard about it from
Speaker 5: the journal, the very scientific journal that I always consume
Speaker 5: TikTok and it helps you sleep, but it doesn't help
Speaker 5: you get to sleep. It helps you get into a
Speaker 5: deeper sleep once you are asleep. So my whole life,
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't really dream that often. I'll
Speaker 5: like have dreams sometimes, well like not super often, maybe
Speaker 5: once every couple weeks. Turns out, I'm just not getting
Speaker 5: into rim sleep where dreams happen enough, or staying in
Speaker 5: m sleep long enough, and magnesium glyaconate allows me to
Speaker 5: stay into rimsleep for a long time. So once I
Speaker 5: started taking it, I started having these really intense dreams
Speaker 5: that I thought were like hallucinations. Turns out that's normal
Speaker 5: and everybody has them. I just wasn't dreaming like that
Speaker 5: before because I wasn't sleeping like that.
Speaker 2: So, wait, would describe one of your dreams. It's like
Speaker 2: very like, Okay, I had this one. I was I
Speaker 2: had to give a speech at school.
Speaker 5: And I'm doing No, it's nothing like that. I had
Speaker 5: a dream. Oh my god. Okay, I had a dream
Speaker 5: that one of my friends who had just gone to
Speaker 5: Europe for his birthday for a month, I was watching
Speaker 5: his location on Find my Friends, and I told him
Speaker 5: to come to where I was, and so I'm watching
Speaker 5: him cross like the boot of Italy on some some
Speaker 5: it's so random on some bridge he's going through the
Speaker 5: boot of Italy to get to me somewhere also in Europe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it's like dark out.
Speaker 5: There's like a lot of stars around. I'm with some
Speaker 5: person I don't know who they are. Stuff like that.
Speaker 5: Very just super random, but very vivid.
Speaker 2: Dream Yeah, okay, I'm to look into that. Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: big dream heads on this podcast. There. I feel.
Speaker 1: I feel like there are insights in there if you
Speaker 1: just like, you know, keep track of them and like,
Speaker 1: don't be too specific, don't be like, oh so I'm
Speaker 1: going to see my friend on a bridge on the boot,
Speaker 1: but like there's you know, I think there's power are
Speaker 1: there coming from the unconscious.
Speaker 2: Part of our minds? That?
Speaker 5: I agree?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the most powerful thing the humans
Speaker 1: have access to if you know how to use it.
Speaker 2: So that's cool. Magnesium glaconate against dreaming. Combine that with
Speaker 2: my th HC.
Speaker 5: That will always Now that's the thing. I'm scared of
Speaker 5: forming a dependency, so I won't do it more than
Speaker 5: two nights in a row, So the other nights I'll
Speaker 5: do my magnesium. But yes, definitely felt.
Speaker 2: Now the combo.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, anything I'm like, oh, this is like anti coomactic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, magnesium and th A C.
Speaker 5: Now I am not a doctor, so take this for
Speaker 5: what it's worth.
Speaker 2: But whiktok, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Naturally an osragonda supplement plus magnesium glacinate plus a little
Speaker 5: th HC will actually have you in a student.
Speaker 2: You might not wake up on that.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm seeing already like people are talking about combining
Speaker 2: actual GANDHA and magnesium gli. Oh, there's all kinds of
Speaker 2: stuff going.
Speaker 5: Okay, so it's a little crazy.
Speaker 2: Let us know, let us know if that's how you
Speaker 2: get downsik yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's take a quick break and we'll come back
Speaker 1: and talk about Nicki Haley. We'll be right back, and
Speaker 1: we're back and Nicki Haley. The Republican primary has kicked off,
Speaker 1: and all of these people are in just lose lose
Speaker 1: situations because yeah, they're they're they're all going to lose.
Speaker 2: I think they're all lose people to start off with.
Speaker 1: But so they but they gotta they gotta get out
Speaker 1: here and try and rally the base, even though they
Speaker 1: don't believe any of this shit. I don't think for
Speaker 1: the most part, and and then but then also try
Speaker 1: and become like media darlings, and it's just it's dark.
Speaker 1: It's dark out there.
Speaker 2: The primary is basically, though, who can be the bigger
Speaker 2: asshole contest right now? To prove to the base that
Speaker 2: you are an absolute evil doer. And like as Nicki Hayley,
Speaker 2: the former South Carolina governor, towards the country to try
Speaker 2: to make her case that she is also an inhumane monster,
Speaker 2: she's also had some time to see like what material
Speaker 2: works with certain crowds. You know, got to workshops and
Speaker 2: jokes some material. But it's clear, right like, just like
Speaker 2: to your point in Jack, that no one is going
Speaker 2: to get the nomination unless you take a couple of
Speaker 2: these boxes. First, are you a homophobe? Transphobe? Okay? Are
Speaker 2: you racist? Okay? Do you also believe that bud Light
Speaker 2: is the true enemy of the American people? If you
Speaker 2: answered yes to these questions, then you can move to
Speaker 2: the next round. But now, so all of these talking points,
Speaker 2: along with like the anti woke shit, they do well
Speaker 2: when you talk to a room full of people who's
Speaker 2: brains have been malformed by chronic Fox News viewing. And
Speaker 2: so I just want to. I just want to compare
Speaker 2: two audiences where Nicki Haley was just trying some material out. First,
Speaker 2: she's with a she's with some Republicans in New Hampshire. Uh,
Speaker 2: and she decides to evoke Dylan mulvaney, the trans influencer
Speaker 2: that recently collaborated bud Light. And we are we already
Speaker 2: know about the outrage around that. So let's let's hear
Speaker 2: Nicky Haley first of all, like completely misgender Dylan mulvaney
Speaker 2: while also just going on this attack, and just see
Speaker 2: how the audience receives this, this this material.
Speaker 3: I guess I'll call it and have any of y'all
Speaker 3: seen Dylan mulvaney?
Speaker 2: Do you know who that is on the beer?
Speaker 8: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3: I know that there are transgender people out there. That
Speaker 3: is not a transgender person. That is a guy dressing
Speaker 3: up like a girl making fun of women.
Speaker 2: Every one of.
Speaker 5: You women have seen that.
Speaker 2: So that audience was fully on board with that nonsense.
Speaker 2: What what the fuck?
Speaker 5: She thought she was doing a stand up set.
Speaker 9: She thought that's what they all think they're doing, right,
Speaker 9: And you can tell because now now okay, now we're
Speaker 9: just we'll juxtapost that with a with a room full
Speaker 9: of independence in the same state in New Hampshire and
Speaker 9: goes along with this same nonsense transphobia and.
Speaker 2: Just just just check out, Like is that one audience
Speaker 2: the second Nikki Haley said Dylan mulvane, people like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we know, just listen to this group of independence right now.
Speaker 2: This is her doing the same thing everybody know about.
Speaker 6: Dylan mulvaney bud life right, Make no mistake. That is
Speaker 6: a guy dressed up like a girl making fun of women.
Speaker 6: Women don't act like that.
Speaker 2: Hold for applause, nothing, she looks confused.
Speaker 1: Nothing was the loudest silence, like the room tone Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: video was deafening.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah shit. You could hear like someone's wristwatch, Like
Speaker 2: I know, it was like super wild. So you know, again,
Speaker 2: this is just just showing you kind of like when
Speaker 2: you're in a room full of like you know, an
Speaker 2: unaffiliated independent voters, like they're not all they're not clued
Speaker 2: in on this like culture warshit like these like the
Speaker 2: MAGA room was, and it's just it just shows you,
Speaker 2: right Like this is like I think the hard part
Speaker 2: about the GOP trying to win a national election, the
Speaker 2: base feeds off of the hateful rhetoric and they need
Speaker 2: to hear that bullshit in order for a candidate to
Speaker 2: register as like a Republican in their frame, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, oh, they've evoked like the three
Speaker 2: Hateful truths, Now I know what room I'm in. But
Speaker 2: like appealing to their base isn't enough, and so they
Speaker 2: also have to court independence, many of whom are not
Speaker 2: aware of like the woke wars happening on Fox News,
Speaker 2: and also believe in things like body autonomy or LGBTQ
Speaker 2: rights and so. And it's funny because Nikki Haley in
Speaker 2: some rooms tries to be like, obviously, like abortion is
Speaker 2: an important topic. She's smart enough to never She's smart
Speaker 2: enough to say like, well, obviously on pro life, but
Speaker 2: also smart enough to never say what the cutoff is
Speaker 2: for whatever kind of abortion band that she would potentially
Speaker 2: enact as president, because that's just like sort of this
Speaker 2: weird middle space that they're having to occupy in terms
Speaker 2: of like, you know, the party platform. But again, I
Speaker 2: think this is all part of why we're seeing just
Speaker 2: like this very stark turn towards fascism, because when they
Speaker 2: don't like something, they cry about it and use every
Speaker 2: tool to intimidate people and incite violence, like they did
Speaker 2: this with the election results. And as they see that,
Speaker 2: like man, our chances are fucking getting slim. If we
Speaker 2: keep saying this shit to get the base out, it's
Speaker 2: at the cost of getting a majority of people to
Speaker 2: vote for us. So now we see now we see
Speaker 2: more and more of this same pattern beginning to play
Speaker 2: out in other places, not just like with respect of
Speaker 2: maybe school boards and things like that, but also consumer goods,
Speaker 2: right like with bud Light and now fucking Target because
Speaker 2: they're selling pride clothed, like pride clothing in kids sizes,
Speaker 2: like with stuff that says cure transphobia, not trans people,
Speaker 2: or I'm meant to be here, stuff like that, and
Speaker 2: people are now completely the right wing's completely lost and
Speaker 2: been like it's they've caused a Satanic panic. They said
Speaker 2: the person designing it is was wearing like a Satan
Speaker 2: shirt because it said like Satan respects pronouns. Is like
Speaker 2: one of the pictures this person's wearing, and they're like,
Speaker 2: they're a Satanists, And this is what they're trying to
Speaker 2: do through Target, where they are saying things like they
Speaker 2: are selling like tuck friendly bathing suits for kids, when
Speaker 2: they're just pointing out like extra fabric that's like in
Speaker 2: the like the bottoms of like a bathing suit.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it sounds like middle school conspiracy theories.
Speaker 5: It's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it really Yeah and for like all
Speaker 2: this shit that you know Niki Hayley's talking, but I
Speaker 2: was saying like because later on in that in that
Speaker 2: room in New Hampshire, she tries to pivot to say
Speaker 2: and it's no wonder why do we have like these
Speaker 2: rates of attempted suicide increasing amongst adolescent curls and trying
Speaker 2: to connect trans people to that as if like because
Speaker 2: they are making fun of CIS women and that's and
Speaker 2: it's like, no, it's because of the other ring, Like
Speaker 2: what you're doing with trans people and other groups like that,
Speaker 2: that's what leads to people being falling into despair to
Speaker 2: the point that there they have that kind of ideation.
Speaker 2: So it's just yeah, again.
Speaker 5: I couldn't even find it, Like I didn't know what
Speaker 5: you were implying when you were trying to explain what
Speaker 5: she was saying, because like it was such a leap
Speaker 5: I didn't know what she was trying to say at all.
Speaker 2: Right, because it's so I think, because it's such a
Speaker 2: terrible distillation of just people being like, well they're they're
Speaker 2: biologically not that, so they're making fun of us. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's why I'm hateful, right, I think. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like there, this is a form of
Speaker 1: something that the right has been doing for a long time,
Speaker 1: with like the you know, screaming, you know, being not
Speaker 1: the majority of the country, but being also the loudest
Speaker 1: whenever anything offends their delicate sensibilities has worked for them,
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to like the FCC and
Speaker 1: making sure that there's no bad words said on TV,
Speaker 1: you know, they'll fucking send a massive letter writing campaign
Speaker 1: and like that has worked for a long time. It
Speaker 1: fucking ended Janet Jackson's career, like in a.
Speaker 2: Lot of ways, I mean had a lot to do
Speaker 2: with that, right and also less but I mean.
Speaker 1: That's the thing is, like the these corporate CEOs are
Speaker 1: not going to be brave and stand up, Like Target
Speaker 1: removed their displays, like removing some items from its stores
Speaker 1: and making other changes to its merchandise nationwide ahead of
Speaker 1: Pride month, after intense backlash from some customers who confronted
Speaker 1: workers and tipped over to displays.
Speaker 2: It's like, that's but I mean, I think the other
Speaker 2: thing too, is I mean, I get the position targets
Speaker 2: into because they said, right now the employees are the
Speaker 2: ones having to bear the brunt of like getting threats
Speaker 2: get So it is a difficult balance because at one
Speaker 2: point you don't want to put the worker there to
Speaker 2: be the fucking defender of your corporate values and your
Speaker 2: capitalists pursuit of like never ending dollars. But like, at
Speaker 2: the same time, I know to your point, it doesn't
Speaker 2: help to fucking cave to these people either. Like why
Speaker 2: we just talked about this with the Dodgers. The Dodgers
Speaker 2: are about to have the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, which
Speaker 2: they're like, you know, these like drag performers who like
Speaker 2: raise raise money and you know they fucking lampooon Catholicism,
Speaker 2: because yeah, why not. And then they they said, actually,
Speaker 2: we don't want to have them because there's too much
Speaker 2: right wing pressure. And then they finally got their shit together,
Speaker 2: like actually, no, we're going to have them back fucked
Speaker 2: that became to our senses. But I don't know how
Speaker 2: many I don't know how many times we're going to
Speaker 2: see that be the norm, right because once it happens,
Speaker 2: like it's just easier for them, like, oh well, just
Speaker 2: because like a few hundred people are sending like all
Speaker 2: kinds of violent emails and stuff where we have to cave.
Speaker 2: And it's just not a good sign. When that becomes
Speaker 2: like the mainstream response to people voicing their homophobia and
Speaker 2: hateful rhetoric.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this would be the time to you know, it's
Speaker 1: that it is now like that sort of loud response
Speaker 1: anytime their sensibilities are offended, Like is now you know,
Speaker 1: connected to a hate campaign that has like an actual
Speaker 1: violent political movement attached to it, that is conducting like
Speaker 1: domestic terror and openly saying hateful things out loud That
Speaker 1: used to I guess they used to probably just say
Speaker 1: like in country club locker rooms. But like, there there
Speaker 1: is a momentum to this, and we would need a
Speaker 1: corresponding strengthening of resolve. And you know, as we're about
Speaker 1: to talk about, I think we're seeing it with some people,
Speaker 1: but looking for it from corporations. I think we're going
Speaker 1: to be disappointed because corporations are always going to triangulate
Speaker 1: to try and find like the biggest consumer group they
Speaker 1: can by not offending anybody and becoming a story.
Speaker 5: And what we're saying here is that collective action works.
Speaker 5: So what's the best counter response to collective action? It
Speaker 5: is collective action, right, yeah, so we could all, you know,
Speaker 5: we could all get up in arms and do something
Speaker 5: that would be great.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I mean I think, yeah, it's like it's
Speaker 2: it's interest. Like on Charlie Kirk's show, he was talking
Speaker 2: about the Target thing, and he's like, this CEO of
Speaker 2: targets me he's a groomer or whatever, because look, it's
Speaker 2: projection at its finest, all right, Yeah, just just going
Speaker 2: after the CEO of Target because Target has been like,
Speaker 2: you know, they've done the bare minimum to like just
Speaker 2: to support all of their employees. And to the conservatives,
Speaker 2: that's like they're trying to they're trying to come after
Speaker 2: our kids, the ones that I don't have because I'm
Speaker 2: so vile no one wants to procreate with me.
Speaker 5: The ones that you don't give a fuck if they
Speaker 5: get shot or not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right exactly, And and but it was interesting to
Speaker 2: watch him begin to be like, you know, bud Light
Speaker 2: was like a one off, Like he was sort of
Speaker 2: starting to like throttle off the bud Light outrage to
Speaker 2: be like that was like a one time thing with
Speaker 2: an influencer. But Target, they've been doing this, They've been
Speaker 2: want to get this. I know it's it's but again,
Speaker 2: I don't know like what they always talk about, like, well,
Speaker 2: we have to stop giving them our dollars. You won't.
Speaker 2: You won't because at the end of the day, none
Speaker 2: of this is actually like wrapped up in some real
Speaker 2: principled argument or like worldview that you're like philosophically, I
Speaker 2: can't let this happen. Y'all are just addicted to the
Speaker 2: outrage cycle to be like what who oh, fuck those guys.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to Target. Where am I going right now?
Speaker 2: Just in the Target to get something, but after that.
Speaker 5: Just to get something right quick?
Speaker 2: Yeah, really quick. I mean it's it's convenient. It's right there, obviously,
Speaker 2: because I live in an area where big box stores
Speaker 2: are the only place for me to shop. It's kind
Speaker 2: of been a weird bind anyway, But like that's what
Speaker 2: you're they honestly like they're saying like, oh, we took
Speaker 2: victory over bud lighter these other things. I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe because you saw them not be as vocal, sure,
Speaker 2: but again, like they're basically terror campaign continues like.
Speaker 5: It's about winning. It's not about any more on high ground.
Speaker 5: Like you said, it's about winning, Yeah, exactly. And here's
Speaker 5: whe wins say that I don't appreciate you think I'm stupid,
Speaker 5: don't lie to me right.
Speaker 2: Well, because that's the thing is like their hypocrisy is
Speaker 2: all over the place that everyone's like, y'all are so dumb,
Speaker 2: like you don't believe in any of this shit. You
Speaker 2: just want to feel like you have you can get
Speaker 2: one over on people, and you just pick the weakest
Speaker 2: groups out there to do that over and over and
Speaker 2: over again.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it's it's it's disheartening, but there is
Speaker 2: a response. There are responses to things like this, because
Speaker 2: I don't want to just end this story by saying
Speaker 2: like what the fuck, man, look, what the fuck is
Speaker 2: going on? So you probably heard of this group called
Speaker 2: Moms for Liberty. They're the ones you see like organizing
Speaker 2: at school board school board meetings, like arms of Kimbo
Speaker 2: with like proud boys, you know, because they can't believe
Speaker 2: some words have the word queer or sex in them. Right. Well,
Speaker 2: they've now become a national organization with over one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifteen thousand members as they say, and dark money
Speaker 2: funding because they are a five OZHO one C four
Speaker 2: nonprofit where you do not have to disclose where none
Speaker 2: of your money comes from. Shout out to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: Shout out to them. But it's also every political party's
Speaker 2: favorite tool. But they were founded in Florida by this
Speaker 2: woman after she lost a school board reelection in like
Speaker 2: a very red district in twenty twenty and then just
Speaker 2: like got in her hate bag and started this group
Speaker 2: that now has like deep ties to the GOP and
Speaker 2: has been like, you know, behind a lot of book bands,
Speaker 2: Like they're the people that you really see turning up
Speaker 2: at these like school board meetings and also helping Deronda
Speaker 2: Santis with the don't say gay nonsense. So they've they've
Speaker 2: flexed their muscle over the last year two years or so,
Speaker 2: and many other parents have noticed an uptick in this
Speaker 2: group's aggressive tactics, which is basically NonStop harassment, dosing physical
Speaker 2: threats of violence to school board members, faculty, or other
Speaker 2: parents that decide to speak up for their kids who
Speaker 2: are not like white, cisgendered, or just don't agree with
Speaker 2: this hate group. And there's one group called Our Schools
Speaker 2: was actually formed as a response to the Charlottesville Unite
Speaker 2: the Right rally by a group of moms who felt they're, like, man, like,
Speaker 2: we can't just sit and watch and like tell our
Speaker 2: kids we did fuck all while all this shit was happening.
Speaker 2: So they like, we just want to be able to
Speaker 2: push back on whatever we're seeing, like all this ignorance
Speaker 2: popping up in our own communities. And like again, they've
Speaker 2: been able to slowly build a group, and then once
Speaker 2: Moms for Liberty came on the scene, they've been able
Speaker 2: to actually start fighting back. So this group Our Schools,
Speaker 2: they were doing a lot of stuff, like prior to
Speaker 2: Moms for Liberty showing up, they were able to like
Speaker 2: get all kinds of more like laws passed or standards
Speaker 2: for schools for like more inclusivity and things like that.
Speaker 2: But once Moms for Liberty pulled up, a lot of
Speaker 2: that shit has been clawed back. And they were noticing
Speaker 2: too that like in these meetings of parents that were
Speaker 2: speaking out against some of these like more inclusive policies.
Speaker 2: They're like, I've never even seen this person before. They're like,
Speaker 2: yeah they have. Like some people they said, okay, they
Speaker 2: just were not involved at all in like school board
Speaker 2: politics until this group. But then other people saying like
Speaker 2: they're people were coming in from like way out of
Speaker 2: town who are like, they don't even have kids in
Speaker 2: the district and are speaking up as if they are.
Speaker 2: These people, like as if they are a concerned parent,
Speaker 2: which leads a lot of people to be like this
Speaker 2: is just fucking AstroTurf bullshit. But yeah, it's caused like
Speaker 2: a lot of pushback. And there's another group that called
Speaker 2: Defense of Democracy who they again saw these Moms for
Speaker 2: Liberty people showing up and being like Christ is king
Speaker 2: over at all our children. They're like, oh, not to know, no,
Speaker 2: not going to do that. And they began just very
Speaker 2: simply organizing other parents that they saw who were like
Speaker 2: this is kind of fucked up and like scary, and
Speaker 2: I don't like this shit, but I don't know where
Speaker 2: to start. So they started doing house meetings and then
Speaker 2: they were able to like once the a wave of
Speaker 2: school board elections happened in November. They were able to
Speaker 2: get a ton of these Moms for Liberty candidates defeated
Speaker 2: because they just drew attention to what they were going
Speaker 2: on about, even though they said, I'm here to protect
Speaker 2: our kids. This is a quote from one of the
Speaker 2: founders quote. We treat Moms for Liberty like the KKK.
Speaker 2: If you knew that a KKK meeting was happening in
Speaker 2: a church down the street from your house, everyone would
Speaker 2: be alarmed. We would be picketing, we would be protesting,
Speaker 2: we'd have a petition, and that was exactly what we do.
Speaker 2: Nice there, it is nice, Yeah, just showing up and
Speaker 2: guess what. As a result, this has actually made an impact. Now,
Speaker 2: Moms for Liberty like they're they're like they're on the
Speaker 2: defensive now, trying to be like, no, we didn't say that,
Speaker 2: We never said any of that, because they know how
Speaker 2: extreme they look when people are just like have you
Speaker 2: heard what they say? And they began to lose a
Speaker 2: little bit of influence. Not to say that they're defeated,
Speaker 2: but more as more parents are informed about their endgame,
Speaker 2: like it's gotten to the point where the main sort
Speaker 2: of headquarters of Moms for Liberty are telling all these subgroups, hey,
Speaker 2: tone down the fucking the hate shit, try to be
Speaker 2: say the thing that we keep saying, be respectful, please,
Speaker 2: please please. And that's just from other parents organizing enough
Speaker 2: to be like, wey' all need to know what these
Speaker 2: people are actually about, because it's not protecting our kids.
Speaker 2: They're on there. They have a fascist agenda that they're
Speaker 2: trying to bring into our schools and not just not
Speaker 2: just come after like non CIS kids or whatever. They
Speaker 2: don't even want white kids to learn about the history
Speaker 2: of the United States because you know, we don't like
Speaker 2: the truth around here. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: It feels like this is a bad look for the
Speaker 1: Republican Party being affiliated with the shit, and like it
Speaker 1: just it feels like this is, like you said, AstroTurf.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of money behind it because this is
Speaker 1: where like the right wing and where like the billionaires
Speaker 1: actually like want things to head is in a more
Speaker 1: authoritarian direction because they don't like anything that's going to
Speaker 1: take away their power and so there's a ton of
Speaker 1: money behind it. But I feel like there aren't people
Speaker 1: that many people behind it, Like they don't have the
Speaker 1: numbers and we kind of saw that in the midterms.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping is kind of what we saw at the beginning,
Speaker 1: like the beginning of a movement to just treat this
Speaker 1: the way that like it common sense, Like most people
Speaker 1: are just like that is fucking crazy. We don't want
Speaker 1: to be against this like hateful bullshit where we have
Speaker 1: to like learn which corporations we have to like pick
Speaker 1: it and you know, not use because of like some
Speaker 1: intricate ideology that you guys are creating on the fly
Speaker 1: that like comes from a place of hatred, you know, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, but there's so much money, and
Speaker 1: money is important in this country the thing.
Speaker 5: Until we kill the money being the be all and
Speaker 5: all in this country, everything's going to continue going to
Speaker 5: shit unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Because what's happened is right groups like our Schools, which
Speaker 2: is the group fighting Moms to Liberty, now they are
Speaker 2: starting their own five oh one c four basically to
Speaker 2: fight fucking fire with fire, Like okay, bet we can
Speaker 2: get donors too, and we can also obscure that too,
Speaker 2: so they don't get harassed and shit in a way
Speaker 2: to start a pack and they can start putting money
Speaker 2: into campaigns and actually like identifying school board candidates that
Speaker 2: need to be elevated and pushed back against the Moms
Speaker 2: for Liberty nonsense. And it's wild too, because lawyers for
Speaker 2: Moms for Liberty have tried to stop the activities of
Speaker 2: these grassroots like counter movements by like hitting them with
Speaker 2: like thumb cease and desist orders where they're like, you
Speaker 2: are defait. You were actively defaming Moms for Liberty, and
Speaker 2: they're like, we are, Actually, I'm sorry, by pointing to
Speaker 2: other parents to their own documented statements like right, I'm
Speaker 2: just faming us with direct quotes.
Speaker 5: Right, I forgot what the end game is supposed to be.
Speaker 2: Right, do you don't even know how the do you
Speaker 2: know what defamation is? Okay? But and so a lot
Speaker 2: of them are like, okay, miss me with these like
Speaker 2: spooky like legal letters because at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: they feel that they're on a path rightfully to combat
Speaker 2: this hate. But it's like but again, I think the
Speaker 2: big thing too to notice is a lot of these
Speaker 2: other groups, like Defending Democracy, they lack funding. They don't
Speaker 2: have the same kind of funding, and that's what they're
Speaker 2: having to contend with is a lot of like well
Speaker 2: funded astro turf people who again are able to court
Speaker 2: real life parents obviously, because that's how all this shit works,
Speaker 2: is to be able to counter that is like really tough.
Speaker 2: But the good thing is a lot of parents have
Speaker 2: been reaching out to them from across the country asking,
Speaker 2: I got this shit going on in my county? How
Speaker 2: do I fucking like, what do y'all do? Like what
Speaker 2: is the playbook here? And that message is beginning to
Speaker 2: spread like bit by bit, so you know, just a
Speaker 2: bit of more heartening news to know that, like while
Speaker 2: a lot of the attention goes to these like these
Speaker 2: the loudest, most hateful like stochastic terrorist groups, there are
Speaker 2: plenty of people like in this country that are still
Speaker 2: just terribly fucking disturbed by what they're doing and are
Speaker 2: organizing themselves against it. And that's what it seems to
Speaker 2: be the effective thing is you know, collectively fighting back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've had this insurgency set up for a while
Speaker 1: because they have been you know, the extreme right. So
Speaker 1: they have the donors like they have, they have the
Speaker 1: money channels and all all the like dark money set up,
Speaker 1: and I feel like people who want to fight back
Speaker 1: against it, just like are too used to just being like, well,
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party is going to do this, and it's like, no,
Speaker 1: we never fight like an insurtent.
Speaker 2: They did not, they did not. We need to fight
Speaker 2: like a insurgent, an insurgency and you know, get grassroots
Speaker 2: and yeah, because correct action. At the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's it's gonna boil down to class.
Speaker 2: Like as much as you think they got a D
Speaker 2: by their name that they're going to stand up for you,
Speaker 2: I've seen it for decades now. Yeah, where it's a
Speaker 2: it's a fucking shell game of oh yeah, we got
Speaker 2: your back. Oh whoops did we say that? Nah? Nah
Speaker 2: not bad. A vote for us though, or else these
Speaker 2: fascists might take over. You don't want that, right, Okay.
Speaker 5: That's the whole thing. Like, I feel like everything has
Speaker 5: to crumble before anybody gets the point, whether it's more
Speaker 5: modern Republicans or Democrats, everything kind of has to crumble.
Speaker 5: Everybody has to suffer or if there's no consequences and
Speaker 5: people don't actually see things taking place that are affecting
Speaker 5: them and people they directly know, and so nobody does
Speaker 5: anything right, hate it. Let me know when the revolution starts.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean it's true, Like, I mean, that's I think,
Speaker 2: especially America, right, It's like we have to get fully
Speaker 2: burned on the stove to realize, oh, it's hot, fucking children. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it wasn't enough that everybody's been telling you this and
Speaker 2: you know, like and it's it's sad though too to
Speaker 2: see like to your point, right, until that shit comes
Speaker 2: to your doorstep, A lot of people don't fucking get
Speaker 2: the picture. But even like with the recent like the
Speaker 2: recent shootings, you saw governors who knew victims in these
Speaker 2: mass shootings and they were still like, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 2: that's right. Kind of suck though, But I'm I'm so
Speaker 2: entrenched in this like ideology of like guns being like
Speaker 2: second to God that I'm just gonna kind of sit
Speaker 2: on my hands, even though I know first hand of
Speaker 2: the violence step of fel people.
Speaker 5: I knew how scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean now that active shooter drills
Speaker 1: are part of most schools in the country because they
Speaker 1: have to be. I think again, you're going to see
Speaker 1: some natural people kind of voting against this bullshit. But
Speaker 1: I think it's not enough to just vote against it,
Speaker 1: especially when the only two options are Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 2: There needs to be direct action at some level. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's either like you can either vote status quo or regression. Right, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's really it. No one's offering a path forward, right,
Speaker 2: And someone.
Speaker 5: Was, but they just couldn't get past of.
Speaker 2: Course, right. Yeah, yeah, because again the status quo will
Speaker 2: do whatever it has to to form arms against anything
Speaker 2: that looks like progress. And then you know, that's why,
Speaker 2: and that's why this year's Democratic primary is starting in
Speaker 2: South Carolina to stack the deck for Joe Biden already
Speaker 2: and scare off anybody who might challenge old Joe branded.
Speaker 2: But but it's like wild though too. Like it's I think,
Speaker 2: just like with Republicans who are so out of touch,
Speaker 2: they're like, well, these people love this shit and they
Speaker 2: think it's a platform, ye like, but it's really just
Speaker 2: like you got these people really turned up for whatever
Speaker 2: the fuck. Like in the same way, Democrats are completely
Speaker 2: unable to understand what the stakes are for normal people.
Speaker 2: And like I say this all the time, I think
Speaker 2: the poorest person a Democratic senator knows is one of
Speaker 2: their aids that works in their office. Yes, right, and
Speaker 2: that's that's their view into the fucking real world and they're.
Speaker 10: Like, oh god, and the aids are poor, yeah, which
Speaker 10: is which is why you see it like, because that's
Speaker 10: why a lot of people of color are actually unable
Speaker 10: to be congressional aids because they make nothing.
Speaker 2: It's just like same thing with unpaid internships that naturally,
Speaker 2: well healthy people are the only ones that are going
Speaker 2: to take those jobs because they'll be like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: got your rent while you're working on the hill. Don't
Speaker 2: worry about that. It's just very difficult. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I've worked in Washington, DC for a little bit, and
Speaker 5: I think I was making like thirty thousand dollars, right,
Speaker 5: I was doing it, and that was twenty sixteen. What
Speaker 5: was I supposed to do with thirty thousand dollars in
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2: Not exactly. I think, Yeah, if anything, force you out
Speaker 2: of the job, be articulate. Right here we are. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's why they're Hey, that's why they're also trying to
Speaker 2: unionize as well, you know, because even congression lads, you're.
Speaker 5: Like, what the fuck is this collective action? I'd love
Speaker 5: to see it there you go?
Speaker 2: All right, Well, speaking of direct action, let's take a
Speaker 2: quick break and we'll come back and talk about some
Speaker 2: whales or I guess large dogs. They were taking some
Speaker 2: collective action, for sure. They were taking yeah, all about
Speaker 2: it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be right back, and we're back, and there's
Speaker 1: a story making the rounds. The levels of detail and
Speaker 1: implied agency by the killer whales and like motive are
Speaker 1: different from article to article, like the New York Times
Speaker 1: weighed in yesterday morning with their take on it. So broadly,
Speaker 1: what broadly it's Orca's fighting boats is a pod of
Speaker 1: workAs continues to attack and ram and fuck up sailboats
Speaker 1: that they encounter, and the behavior is kind of what
Speaker 1: that All the articles emphasize the behavior just came out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, like as if we should have expected a
Speaker 1: note from the Orcas giving fair warning. But it kind
Speaker 1: of can't started. Nobody's seen this sort of behavior from workAs,
Speaker 1: but it started in twenty twenty. So far three boats
Speaker 1: have been sunk in the last year, and the New
Speaker 1: York Times basically gave this the nothing to see here,
Speaker 1: They just play too much. Take like literally, they were
Speaker 1: like they're just playing so that they referred to the
Speaker 1: crafts as sailboats, even though a bunch of them are
Speaker 1: yachts and said there's no explanation, but quoted people saying
Speaker 1: it's probably not payback for a boating encounter, which it
Speaker 1: had been something that scientists had suggested, and that it's
Speaker 1: unlikely to spread further than this pod. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're teaching each other, but they're probably not gonna like
Speaker 1: teach orcus elsewhere in the ocean. So it almost felt
Speaker 1: like it was an article like trying to calm down
Speaker 1: people with yachts, which.
Speaker 2: Got to keep right. Yeah, and this article is sponsored
Speaker 2: by orcer Proof Boats. The article was.
Speaker 1: Actually it did have an article that was like propane
Speaker 1: a huge step forward in the path to zero carbon emissions.
Speaker 2: It's just the New York Times. Man. There they are
Speaker 2: so just hand in hand with the energy industry.
Speaker 5: This is currently payback for warming the oceans. They're mad,
Speaker 5: they aren't going to read it. I know how they
Speaker 5: know that they're not going to read it. We don't
Speaker 5: know that they're mad.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, there are some of the most they're pretty intelligent,
Speaker 2: like they'll get on whatever Discordica or Twitter or whatever
Speaker 2: they use to Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the thing that they're not denying is
Speaker 1: that some of the behavior is being taught between the Orkapod,
Speaker 1: which is crazy, and the behavior is attacking yachts, is
Speaker 1: attacking large sailboats. The Telegraph, who I tend to trust
Speaker 1: more than the New York Times because they're not inside
Speaker 1: the US and inside the oil industry as much as
Speaker 1: the New York Times. But they gave a more exciting
Speaker 1: rundown that I appreciated. They were like, there's this one girl,
Speaker 1: White Gladys, and she is on the one because she
Speaker 1: fucking hates boats, because they fucked with her. Probably at
Speaker 1: some point I'll just read from a quote from again,
Speaker 1: this is the Telegraph, not like the Daily Mail or
Speaker 1: one of the Sun tabloids. The Sun avengeful killer whale
Speaker 1: called Gladys is teaching gangs of orcas to attack yachts
Speaker 1: around Gibraltar, and has already struck three boats, sinking two
Speaker 1: of them. It may read like something out of Mobi Dick,
Speaker 1: but in this case the truth is stranger than fiction.
Speaker 1: Researchers believe that a female orca called White Gladys is
Speaker 1: seeking revenge after being traumatized by a collision with a
Speaker 1: boat or being trapped in illegal fishing nets. Her attacks
Speaker 1: are now being copied by the rest of the nearby
Speaker 1: killer whale population, which has learnt how to ram vessels.
Speaker 2: From their ring leader. Wow, that's that's how you tell
Speaker 2: that story. Wow, let them know. Yeah, I like this.
Speaker 5: White Gladys who came up with that?
Speaker 2: Gladys? Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I want to know
Speaker 2: which science just like that's white gladdye right, white Gladdice Lady,
Speaker 2: that's that's Gladys. White in the pods with the quote.
Speaker 1: So they actually quote the same people from the New
Speaker 1: York Times article, but they like us better parts of
Speaker 1: the quote, like one of the people's Like I kept
Speaker 1: reminding myself we had a twenty two ton boat made
Speaker 1: of steel. But seeing three of them coming at once,
Speaker 1: quickly and at pace, with their fins out of the
Speaker 1: water was daunting. I couldn't believe it when I saw them.
Speaker 1: We were sitting ducks. Oh hell yeah, yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's what.
Speaker 2: It feels like. It goes A clearly larger matriarch was
Speaker 2: definitely around and was that was almost supervising.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's time to say we're all team Orcas,
Speaker 5: right oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we love yeah, oh yeah, we
Speaker 2: stand with the based orcas.
Speaker 5: I would hate humans too, I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the two little workAs observe the bigger ones technique,
Speaker 1: and with a slight run up, they too slammed into
Speaker 1: the boat. And then they talk about May twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one boat getting banged up so bad by these workAs
Speaker 1: that it sunk. Definitely feels like a trend. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if it's like specifically they're like, fuck,
Speaker 1: they're really fucking it up. We need to start taking
Speaker 1: taking action, maybe inspire something on their part. Probably not,
Speaker 1: but the fact that it's I don't know, it's really cool,
Speaker 1: and it sends a clear, if accidental, nevertheless poetic message
Speaker 1: at a time when humanity needs to start ramming yachts,
Speaker 1: either literally or figuratively.
Speaker 2: Take inspiration from the yachts. Yeah, please my proletarians. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we will fucking smash them. Oh man, it's it's yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm like, really, I really need it to be that
Speaker 2: the orcs know what time it is. Yeah, even though
Speaker 2: it's not, I don't know. I don't Again, I don't
Speaker 2: want to. I don't want to just like knee captain
Speaker 2: there and and and say that they don't know what
Speaker 2: they're doing. But wouldn't that be some ship like if
Speaker 2: that Like, I don't know, this is a this is
Speaker 2: a very interesting beginning of a movie, right yea that yeah,
Speaker 2: I've been waiting for them all to just like get
Speaker 2: together and turn it like like the birds, but just
Speaker 2: all animals are just like, all right, we got we
Speaker 2: gotta get the get these people the funk out of here, right,
Speaker 2: I'm done with them fucking fucking with us, man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go. Let's go watch you up all the wires. Yea.
Speaker 2: These crows, we know, crows communicate and teach each other's
Speaker 2: ship like let's go. Yeah, scary right yeah, and yet
Speaker 2: I would be watching it eating popcorn and be ye static.
Speaker 2: But jack, you know any think of the yacht owners
Speaker 2: though I know it was dawning for this woman to
Speaker 2: see the orcas coming at full speed. We were just
Speaker 2: trying to move our boat because we're doing some light
Speaker 2: tax evasion. Right, I am daunted.
Speaker 5: I feel done a little money laundering.
Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, that's it. And then oh the orca
Speaker 2: is now look at the cops.
Speaker 1: Now, come on, but they're not anyways, So we'll keep
Speaker 1: monitoring this story and hopefully has it.
Speaker 2: Hopefully White Gladys come on the show. Yes, tell your side,
Speaker 2: White Gladys. I want to know if White Gladys's manager
Speaker 2: is out there, just you know, hit us up. We
Speaker 2: love to have on the shot. Yes, with death Row Records, Well, Sequoia,
Speaker 2: such a pleasure having you on the zeitgeist. Where can people?
Speaker 2: Where can people find you? Hear you all that good stuff?
Speaker 5: You can hear me on my podcast Black People Love Paramore.
Speaker 5: You can find me across all social media platforms at Sequoia,
Speaker 5: be Homes or at BPLP pod across all social media platforms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And is there a work of media
Speaker 2: that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 5: I have been enjoying every single Renaissance footage that I've seen,
Speaker 5: against my will, but very much kind of happily.
Speaker 2: Okay, are you are you? Are you in to see
Speaker 2: the tour? Yes?
Speaker 5: I am going to the stut Temper show.
Speaker 10: Is it?
Speaker 2: Are you one of the birthday shows?
Speaker 5: It is not the birthday show. She put the Birthday
Speaker 5: show on the lineup after I had already gotten the
Speaker 5: tickets for the September, so I'm really annoyed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hear that. You think Kendrick will come out.
Speaker 5: I do wish think you're just gonna come out? Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 5: I think it might be for the birthday show though,
Speaker 5: so I don't know.
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, okay, okay. And also I just have to
Speaker 2: ask you, do you think Beyonce has a burner? Because
Speaker 2: that's how everybody flipping out about how she was doing
Speaker 2: heated on the on the on the Club Renaissance stage.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, she has a burner. Yeah, absolutely, they have to.
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't live in a world where these
Speaker 2: people don't have burner accounts to know. Like, even though
Speaker 2: I would deify Beyonce like she's above wanted to know
Speaker 2: what the fuck people think about her, part of me
Speaker 2: knows she's still as.
Speaker 5: A mom, giggling at memes on her burner account, getting
Speaker 5: on Blue Iby's nerves.
Speaker 2: I know, amazing. Miles, where can people find you? What
Speaker 2: is the work media you've been enjoying? Find me on
Speaker 2: Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also find Jack
Speaker 2: and I on our NBA podcast, Miles and Jack Got
Speaker 2: mad boosties or sad boosties because my Lakers, you know,
Speaker 2: But that's fine. I'm very zen about it. I'm very
Speaker 2: zen about we did very well. Actually, I got to
Speaker 2: say I was not expecting us to do that well.
Speaker 2: And also, if you like ninety Day Fiance and terrible
Speaker 2: trash reality show, and catch me on my other show
Speaker 2: with Sophia Alexandra for twenty Day Fiance, So you know
Speaker 2: what time it is. A tweet I like is from
Speaker 2: Hugh Moore at Hugh Underscore More, who tweeted Lebron never
Speaker 2: went to college. He could just go play with his
Speaker 2: son at USC then retire mission accomplished. Yeah, some people
Speaker 2: like speculating what his NI deal would look like. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, just do it? Fine?
Speaker 6: Why not?
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that movie Lebron James goes back,
Speaker 2: goes to college, back to Yeah, just document every second
Speaker 2: of that. Release the documentary. It's like back to School
Speaker 2: Part two Lebron and shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I love that The hype tweeted Isaac Newton, Hey,
Speaker 1: what the hell stop that me throwing apples at his head?
Speaker 2: What other theories you're hiding in there?
Speaker 1: You piece of shit?
Speaker 2: That one really got me.
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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a.
Speaker 2: Song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what's the
Speaker 2: song you think?
Speaker 3: You do?
Speaker 2: You know all that UK drum and bass sound is
Speaker 2: so super big, you know, the artist like Pink panthersts
Speaker 2: Nea Archives, people like that. There's another artist I just
Speaker 2: found called you Nay pink Who who is half Malaysian
Speaker 2: half Irish and got like the you know, just just
Speaker 2: loving this like revival of like the UK rave sound.
Speaker 2: And yeah, this is her track called Bluff and it's
Speaker 2: got great you know, great little little bounce to it
Speaker 2: and her vocals are just like perfect over it. So yeah,
Speaker 2: if you're into that kind of music, you should definitely
Speaker 2: check this out. This is Bluff by you Nate pink Who.
Speaker 2: All right, we will link off to that footnote.
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