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Speaker 1: stay a while. Talked to Mike Florio coming up. Got
Speaker 1: a few things to talk to him about. Carolina is
Speaker 1: not letting on who they're taking number one overall, even
Speaker 1: though Bryce Young is not going to any other teams
Speaker 1: to interview, including the Texans who are on the clock
Speaker 1: with the second pick in the draft. But we'll talk
Speaker 1: to Florio coming up. Celtics up too well on the Hawks,
Speaker 1: the artist formerly known as the Hawks. I watched last night.
Speaker 1: I thought that is not a good team and Trey Young,
Speaker 1: Trey Young, it feels like has not gotten better. Two
Speaker 1: years ago they were in the East Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 1: Nix and the Caves, Caves rupped up, rupped up, the
Speaker 1: that's still roughed up. The Knicks, Sons and Clippers tied
Speaker 1: at a game apiece. Draymond Green got suspended and that'll
Speaker 1: be for game three coming up tomorrow night. Damar Hamlin
Speaker 1: is coming back to play with the Bills, And I'll
Speaker 1: ask Florio about this. Are there any waivers here? Like,
Speaker 1: how do you have somebody come back sign off on that.
Speaker 1: But you also have a situation where it's highly unlikely
Speaker 1: that you could have this situation happen again. There's no
Speaker 1: evidence that survivors of commodio cortis are at a higher
Speaker 1: risk for other heart events. It's extremely unlikely that someone
Speaker 1: would suffer two instances of what Damar Hamlin experienced. And
Speaker 1: normally it happens with males between the age of four
Speaker 1: and eighteen, and about forty seven percent of those who
Speaker 1: suffer this condition or this incident. It's sports related and
Speaker 1: a lot of times you'll see that young baseball players
Speaker 1: will get hit in the chest and then you'll have
Speaker 1: this condition or this situation. And Damar Hamlin had a
Speaker 1: press conference yesterday and it was almost matter of factly
Speaker 1: that he says, I died on National TV.
Speaker 2: Not to sound cliche man, but the wild moment is
Speaker 2: every day just being able to wake up and just
Speaker 2: take deep breaths and live a peaceful life, to have
Speaker 2: a family, to have people around me that love me
Speaker 2: and that care about me, and for those people to
Speaker 2: still have me in their lives. You know, they almost
Speaker 2: lost me, Like I died on National TV in front
Speaker 2: of the whole world, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: I see it from all perspectives for them to still
Speaker 2: have me around and for me to still have them.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like it goes both ways.
Speaker 1: He died twice and he's gonna play football again. By
Speaker 1: the way, the overwhelming favored for Comeback Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: you know, Matthew Stafford is coming back from what it
Speaker 1: injured elbow or something. Lamar Jackson coming back from an injury,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously painful injuries, but it's kind of hard.
Speaker 1: I remember when I handed out. I was with Bill
Speaker 1: Murray and this was the SP's and we were handing
Speaker 1: out Comeback Player of the Year, come Back Athlete of
Speaker 1: the Year, and one of the nominees was Monica Sellis
Speaker 1: tennis player who got stabbed during a tournament. The winner
Speaker 1: was Michael Jordan coming back from baseball to play in
Speaker 1: the NBA, and Bill Murray. During the awards ceremony, it
Speaker 1: was like, Mike, Monica got stabbed, like, you know, and
Speaker 1: you won the the SB for Comeback Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: and Mike didn't even show up at the SP's. We
Speaker 1: had to we did a live interview with him at
Speaker 1: the SP's but Monica got stabbed. Yes, and be like
Speaker 1: if somebody says, wait, Damar Hamlin, he came back from
Speaker 1: being dead twice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but matthew s Diffen's elbow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, essentially, dad, Lamar Jackson. He couldn't even play in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yes, time, even if.
Speaker 4: You're Alex Smith, that would still pale in comparison as
Speaker 4: horrible as what Alas went through. It would probably go
Speaker 4: to tomorrow, Hamlin.
Speaker 1: I would think, yes, it would, yes, it would yes.
Speaker 5: Oh so like if we were doing an all time
Speaker 5: Comeback Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: Well he died right like that that Trump's everything.
Speaker 5: Death is really a broken leg.
Speaker 1: Not many guys, Yeah, I mean there have been tough guys.
Speaker 5: Question would you rather die or have a broken leg?
Speaker 3: Broke?
Speaker 1: Would you rather die and come back right or would
Speaker 1: you rather have a broken leg? So Jack Youngblood playing
Speaker 1: in the or t O.
Speaker 5: I gotta feel bad for Alex Smith now he had
Speaker 5: the greatest comeback he did.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is there a better comeback than coming back from
Speaker 1: the dead twice? I give you say, okay, once, maybe not?
Speaker 1: He did it it did it twice? Okay, better comeback
Speaker 1: Patriots twenty eight to three. I mean they were dead.
Speaker 5: They were dead, declared by many, declared by many.
Speaker 3: I'm still going paint.
Speaker 1: That's that's dark. That's that's dark.
Speaker 3: Okay. Uh, Seahawks on the one they were dead, that
Speaker 3: game was over.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. But the tough game, Yeah, the tuck game.
Speaker 4: You know, they're all in the discussion. It's incentives that sound.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. I guess we can say it now
Speaker 1: because he lives, you know, but when you start talking
Speaker 1: about tough guys, I don't know if Morgan Baron is
Speaker 1: on your radar, but he should be. Morgan Baron is
Speaker 1: a hockey player plays for the Winnipeg Jets. He took
Speaker 1: a skate to his face last night. It required seventy
Speaker 1: five stitches. He came back to play in the game.
Speaker 1: He was injured in the first period, big scramble in
Speaker 1: front of the Golden Knight's net, and the skate cut
Speaker 1: the side of his face and he went to the
Speaker 1: locker room and he eventually came back. As one of
Speaker 1: his teammates says, it looked like he got attacked by
Speaker 1: a shark, but that would have been San Jose, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, thank you two for that. Yeah, seventy five
Speaker 1: stitches seventy five, but he's a hockey player.
Speaker 3: That's many stitches that.
Speaker 1: I mean, how long would it take to stitch somebody
Speaker 1: up with seventy five stitches just normally and then to
Speaker 1: get them like there's no you know, hov lane or
Speaker 1: easy pass where you go, Hey, just do it real
Speaker 1: quick here, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the game. He missed ten minutes of
Speaker 5: the first period, ten minutes of second period, and then
Speaker 5: the intermission. So that's what maximum forty five minutes of
Speaker 5: actually real time.
Speaker 6: So that's that's.
Speaker 1: Stitches per minute fast, right, Yes.
Speaker 4: You know some old hockey players gonna come for.
Speaker 1: Remember, Is that how they're gonna sound that we didn't
Speaker 1: even bother stitching up in our day? We just blood
Speaker 1: to death or we liked it fine. We we just
Speaker 1: put glue on there. We put super glue on there.
Speaker 3: That is a funny voice to use for that.
Speaker 1: You almost sound like, uh, you don't need blood, you
Speaker 1: don't need teeth to get back up?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Who's the old guy on the Simpsons? Is that not Smithers?
Speaker 3: Who's mister Burns?
Speaker 1: Is it mister Burns? He's the Smithers Smithers Smithers mix
Speaker 1: between that and the grandpa, Oh yeah, grandpa. I think
Speaker 1: it's grandpa there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, our hockey players naturally tough people?
Speaker 1: Or does the sport make it tough?
Speaker 5: Okay, what do you think it's which comes first?
Speaker 6: None of us?
Speaker 1: Why, I don't think you're born Are you born tough?
Speaker 4: Do you guys?
Speaker 5: Remember little kids in your neighborhood who would take more hits,
Speaker 5: jump more bikes over ramps. Yeah, and they're more inclined
Speaker 5: to go for football or hockey or something like that.
Speaker 1: But what comes first? Your hockey ability or your toughness
Speaker 1: to play the sport?
Speaker 3: I mean, they kind of happened at the same time, right, But.
Speaker 1: I it's almost like, if you're going into hockey, you
Speaker 1: know you're gonna get You're gonna lose some of your chicklets,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some stitches that you know that. That's
Speaker 1: why I mean, you have to embrace the sport. But
Speaker 1: are they tougher than football players? Are they tougher than boxers?
Speaker 1: I mean when you're talking about because you can't get
Speaker 1: in the ring and not want to get hit, So
Speaker 1: you have to have that mindset that are you convincing yourself?
Speaker 1: Is your DNA part of that makeup that says, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to do that because I don't thing you
Speaker 1: can go in there and go damn, that hurts. I
Speaker 1: don't want to do that anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 7: See, it feels like as a sport too, hockey would
Speaker 7: weed out the people that.
Speaker 3: Aren't tough enough. I guess, or I can't hold up
Speaker 3: to that rigor.
Speaker 1: Right here is Morgan Baron after getting seventy five stitches
Speaker 1: on coming back.
Speaker 8: It's actually not bad. They did a great job stitching
Speaker 8: me up, and obviously it missed my eyes, so it
Speaker 8: was not It didn't get me in a really bad spot,
Speaker 8: but they did a gat job fixed me up.
Speaker 6: The boy.
Speaker 8: Trying to figure out if the puck went in because
Speaker 8: it's sitting pretty close, and then, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 8: Obviously I kind of saw the skate coming and just
Speaker 8: an unlucky play I think a little bit unfortunate. But
Speaker 8: like I said, but I think the first thought was
Speaker 8: that I could just see out of the eye, so
Speaker 8: it was the main thing.
Speaker 1: He makes it seem like you just had four stitches
Speaker 1: at seventy five and then went back to play. They
Speaker 1: are they have to be the toughest afthlete.
Speaker 5: Right, if you watch the video and no sound, Sabonis
Speaker 5: seems more injured the reaction. He kind of pats his eyes.
Speaker 5: He's a pool of blood going to the ice. He's like, oh,
Speaker 5: I need some help over.
Speaker 1: We're not sure casually, yeah, Sabonis, we're not sure if
Speaker 1: he's going to play in game three. This guy came
Speaker 1: back last night. He didn't even skate with a limb, right, I.
Speaker 4: Just wanted to see if the puck winning. Now I'm
Speaker 4: down a pint of.
Speaker 1: Blood, yeah, but only a pint. Yes.
Speaker 5: I've always had the belief that high end hockey players,
Speaker 5: maybe football players, at rugby, the real tough sports, there
Speaker 5: are certain people had the mentality where they enjoy hits,
Speaker 5: they enjoyed delivering them, they don't mind getting them, and
Speaker 5: the pain is almost like a badge of I could
Speaker 5: do stuff you can't do, like high end football players
Speaker 5: and high end hockey players. And I guess I throw rugby.
Speaker 1: With certain positions in football because I can't imagine Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning going man. I love to get hit, but Ray
Speaker 1: lew Us or Brian Urlocker probably go man. I love
Speaker 1: to hit people. Ronnie Lott, although I mean Ronnie Lott
Speaker 1: cut off the tip of his finger a choice, right, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he had elective surgery nine and a half others,
Speaker 1: but he you know, maybe that's We've had a few
Speaker 1: moments there with football players with broken legs still playing,
Speaker 1: coming back playing in the Super Bowl. Cut off your
Speaker 1: your pinky yes me spot.
Speaker 4: With fighting and goons and slashing and all that going
Speaker 4: on and not and no rules to protect a quarterback
Speaker 4: like you have in the NFL, you kind of got
Speaker 4: to give the.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine a basketball player coming back after seventy
Speaker 1: five stitches? Let's say he was got injured first quarter,
Speaker 1: came back after half time.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean Paul Pierce came back after having so.
Speaker 1: And that's worse.
Speaker 4: That could be worse.
Speaker 3: Under cramps are a big problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Todd knows that.
Speaker 4: I do not underestimate that.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many stitches carried off his legs,
Speaker 1: just the fact that they carried him like a feel chair.
Speaker 1: The Sharman I know, yeah, uh, what do you need?
Speaker 1: Do you need a bandages? No? No, no Sharman Sharman
Speaker 1: double double plot, yes, double have all that dairy right
Speaker 1: before the game starts, that's on, Yes, Marvin stitches, bubble guts,
Speaker 1: all the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's a rough life. Which would you rather have?
Speaker 1: Really? Make sure the big stall they sure the big
Speaker 1: stalls clear. Don't don't let big Perkin there before me.
Speaker 4: That mistake destroyed you see he came out running afterwards.
Speaker 1: Oh five pounds later, Okay, let's go man Kobe. Who. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Paul Pierce looks he looks slim that relief.
Speaker 3: Too, because he didn't think he's gonna make it.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, just in time. Could you imagine if
Speaker 1: you didn't make it.
Speaker 5: On a bass foot, were there wearing the white shorts
Speaker 5: of the green shorts.
Speaker 1: They would have been wearing the white the whole who.
Speaker 1: He doesn't camouflage that much either at all.
Speaker 4: He wasn't clenched. He was clenched, clenched.
Speaker 1: The NBA hands out the clutch Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: darreon Fox got it, the clinch Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: Paul Pierce would be Paul Pierce, the Paul Pierce clinch Player.
Speaker 3: Of the year.
Speaker 4: Tight situation.
Speaker 1: He gets it done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd love to see what that trophy looks like.
Speaker 1: Is it two cheeks? AnyWho?
Speaker 3: How do we get there?
Speaker 1: I don't know, like most moments on this show, I'm
Speaker 1: not quite sure how we got from agency seating the
Speaker 1: pole question for the final hour, then we'll take a
Speaker 1: break here.
Speaker 3: Team sport that requires the most toughness.
Speaker 7: Righty, football, hockey, Rugby. I'm gonna throw lacrosse on there too.
Speaker 7: Lacrosse feels like you gotta be a tough guy to
Speaker 7: play that sport.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, but they get to wear gear, whereas rugby
Speaker 1: guys don't get to wear gear.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean they are the only ones that on
Speaker 3: the list that don't wear gear. Football, hockey and.
Speaker 1: Lacrosse they wear those like interesting helmets. Did you see
Speaker 1: where the NFL? I think they're going to approve a
Speaker 1: special helmet for quarterbacks this year, and then they have
Speaker 1: the new wonder lick. They don't. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: doing the Wonder lick anymore. What's the name of that
Speaker 1: test polling?
Speaker 5: It's called the S two and it's about decision making.
Speaker 5: It's not like an IQ test in any way. It's
Speaker 5: more about cognitive skills. Like if I put a red
Speaker 5: lights in a room, how long you you know, react
Speaker 5: to red turning green? And they test your reactionary skills.
Speaker 1: And Bryce Young tested off the charts.
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't even know what charts there are because
Speaker 5: it's a Brandon test. We're trying to get a hold
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll take a break. Mike Floria will join us.
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Speaker 1: Mike Florio, the propular co host of Pro Football Talk Live.
Speaker 1: He also has a new book coming out, Father of Mine.
Speaker 1: It's next Tuesday, and it's only four ninety nine. Mike
Speaker 1: is he's a best selling author. Of course, you know
Speaker 1: we had playmakers. Now I think he's branching out here.
Speaker 1: What's the theme of Father of Mine? Here?
Speaker 6: Mike Mob novel setback in nineteen seventy three. Dan in
Speaker 6: the setting is the town I grew up in, sixty
Speaker 6: miles from Pittsburgh, where the Mob was prevalent. My dad
Speaker 6: was actually a bookie who was connected to the Mob.
Speaker 6: But I will say this, there have been no omeritas
Speaker 6: violated in the crafting of this piece. I do not
Speaker 6: want to end up sleeping with the fishes or anything
Speaker 6: else that may be sleeping at the bottom of a
Speaker 6: body of water. So I think I'm covered there. I
Speaker 6: think everybody who was involved is dead now, so I
Speaker 6: won't be hopefully.
Speaker 1: What did you see growing up?
Speaker 6: I saw some wild stuff and I didn't think anything
Speaker 6: of it because it was normal to me. My dad
Speaker 6: had a bar and I would go in there from
Speaker 6: time to time, meet the different guys and always nice
Speaker 6: to you're eight, nine, ten years old, your little kid.
Speaker 6: But there were other places I'd go with my dad
Speaker 6: and just that mystery that smell the beer and the
Speaker 6: cigarettes and you're walking among the barstools. Bruce Springsteen explains
Speaker 6: it in his autobiography Going Into the World of Men.
Speaker 6: When You're a little kid. He used to have to
Speaker 6: go fetch his dad from the bar, and that's kind
Speaker 6: of what it was like. But as I got older
Speaker 6: and I would see newspaper accounts of what some of
Speaker 6: these guys that I used to see all the time
Speaker 6: allegedly or actually did. That's an eye opener. So, especially
Speaker 6: as I wrote this, I did some research about what
Speaker 6: that crew actually or allegedly did back in the day,
Speaker 6: and it's like, Man, there's some bad dudes that I
Speaker 6: probably would have run the other direction if I had
Speaker 6: only known back when I was eight, nine, ten years
Speaker 6: old what they were capable of.
Speaker 1: People get murdered.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, allegedly or actually or otherwise.
Speaker 1: Well, all right, so that's next Tuesday. Florio's book Father
Speaker 1: of Mine and only four ninety nine available wherever you
Speaker 1: get your books. Okay, a few things to talk to
Speaker 1: you about. Ian Rappaport had a tweet saying that the
Speaker 1: Niners are fielding calls for trey lance, What is the
Speaker 1: market for trey lance and what would he cost to
Speaker 1: get trey lance.
Speaker 6: First of all, when a report is made that a
Speaker 6: team is calls, we know it's coming from the team.
Speaker 6: The team wants it out there, and sometimes the truth
Speaker 6: is that the team is actually making the calls, but
Speaker 6: they are very careful to tell the reporter it's fielding,
Speaker 6: because you give up any leverage you have if you
Speaker 6: look desperate that you're making these calls. But dam it's
Speaker 6: obvious the ship is sailed. Trey Lance isn't the guy
Speaker 6: Rock Purty is, and the moment he's healthy, he's the starter.
Speaker 6: And I feel like Trey Lance, if he's there in
Speaker 6: San Francisco, he's going to be competing with Sam Donald
Speaker 6: for number two, not Purty for number one. So the
Speaker 6: market ultimately is what it is. What the forty nine
Speaker 6: ers learned the hard way. They were a little too
Speaker 6: stubborn with what they wanted for Jimmy Garoppolo. They kept
Speaker 6: their thumb on the scale. They ultimately weren't able to
Speaker 6: trade him. Now it worked out because they needed him
Speaker 6: when Trey Lance broke his ankle. But I think that
Speaker 6: what they need to do is see what happens first
Speaker 6: couple rounds of the draft, see where the quarterbacks go
Speaker 6: or don't go. And I don't know, do you get
Speaker 6: a second rounder next year? Do you get something condition
Speaker 6: based on whether he plays, how much he plays, some
Speaker 6: sort of a formula like what the Jets and Packers
Speaker 6: are trying to work out for Aaron Rodgers, but I
Speaker 6: don't think it's much, and they're going to push the idea.
Speaker 6: They're going to try to save some face, and they
Speaker 6: may end up not being able to get a deal
Speaker 6: done if they want more than what anyone is willing
Speaker 6: to give. Because what do you give for a guy
Speaker 6: who has played very little football, Daan in the last
Speaker 6: three years? Twenty twenty pandemic restricted the North Dakota State season,
Speaker 6: just like a couple of games didn't play in twenty one,
Speaker 6: hardly played in twenty two. What are you getting in
Speaker 6: a guy who's still fairly young but who hasn't played
Speaker 6: much football in three years.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Aaron Rodgers in the Jets, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if we're on the same page, but it feels
Speaker 1: like it might be Day two of the draft. Can
Speaker 1: the Jets hold off giving the first round pick this
Speaker 1: year and then say we'll give you a second round
Speaker 1: pick this year and then a first round next year
Speaker 1: to the Packers and then this is completed.
Speaker 6: I think the only thing they agree on for now,
Speaker 6: Dan is that the pick this year would be one
Speaker 6: of the two second rounders that Jets currently have back
Speaker 6: to back from the Elijah War trade to Cleveland. They've
Speaker 6: got back to back picks I think forty three and
Speaker 6: forty four. And the question is what do the Packers
Speaker 6: get in twenty twenty four, What do the Jets get
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty five if Aaron Rodgers were to retire
Speaker 6: after only one season. I think that's part of this
Speaker 6: equation as well. And because we're so close to the
Speaker 6: second day of the draft now, there's no reason for
Speaker 6: either side to move to their bottom line. Now, they
Speaker 6: wait until the last minute the plane lands, they find
Speaker 6: a way to make their two positions meet. And I've
Speaker 6: said the over under is six o'clock Eastern Friday the
Speaker 6: twenty eight. There's a chance they get it worked out
Speaker 6: late afternoon, just to be done. There's also a chance
Speaker 6: it happens when the pick in round two that's going
Speaker 6: to the Packers is actually on the clock, that the
Speaker 6: trade occurs during round two of the draft.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're on the same page that this first
Speaker 1: round pick for the Jets is not going to Green.
Speaker 6: Bay not going to Green Bay, Okay, but.
Speaker 1: It'll be a second round pick or maybe a couple
Speaker 1: of picks. But there has to be some kind of
Speaker 1: conditional language in here, as you mentioned with Rogers, because
Speaker 1: like I'd still have trepidation to find the Jets. This
Speaker 1: is the guy who said he was ninety percent retired
Speaker 1: before he went into the dark hole, and now you're
Speaker 1: going to give up a second round pick and then
Speaker 1: a first round pick or whatever it might be. But
Speaker 1: I'm going to guess that kind of language will be
Speaker 1: in this transaction.
Speaker 6: Well, yes, that's what the Jets are trying to protect
Speaker 6: themselves against it. And look, there's a chance that Aaron
Speaker 6: Rodgers wasn't telling the truth when he said he was
Speaker 6: ninety percent retired, because it's part of this broader narrative
Speaker 6: that I was just going to walk off into the sunset.
Speaker 6: I thought the packers wanted me back, and then I
Speaker 6: heard that they were shopping me, and that's when everything changed.
Speaker 6: It makes for a great story, regardless of whether or
Speaker 6: not it's true. This ninety percent thing may have just
Speaker 6: been him trying to fashion a greater myth than what
Speaker 6: reality would support. And the consequence is it's freaked out
Speaker 6: the Jets to the point where they're concerned he's going
Speaker 6: to be one and done in New York and when
Speaker 6: Tom Brady first joined the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, one of
Speaker 6: the greatest business objectives of ownership was make sure he
Speaker 6: comes back for another year. Make sure he comes back,
Speaker 6: and I think the Jets will bend over backwards to
Speaker 6: try to make sure there's a second year for Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 6: and the Jets want that protection in twenty five in
Speaker 6: the event that Rogers is one and done. And who knows,
Speaker 6: we didn't expect Farv to be one and done with
Speaker 6: the Jets, and he was.
Speaker 1: The Damar Hamlin situation. He's already one comeback player of
Speaker 1: the year. If you come back from death twice, I'm
Speaker 1: guessing that you'll be the comeback player of the year.
Speaker 1: What kind of language will be in that contract? Is
Speaker 1: there an addendum to his contract with the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: with him coming back? I mean, how does the team
Speaker 1: protect itself?
Speaker 6: Well, I think that he's cleared, he's back, and he's
Speaker 6: playing on entering his third season, So it's not even
Speaker 6: as if they could do a new contract for tomorrow Hamlin.
Speaker 6: His existing contract is still in place. The question is,
Speaker 6: once he's physically cleared mentally, what's it gonna be like
Speaker 6: for him? To put his uniform on and go back
Speaker 6: out onto a football field. I don't even know how
Speaker 6: much he remembers about what happened. Maybe there is no
Speaker 6: PTSD or scarring of him that he would have to overcome.
Speaker 6: Because for the rest of us, when he walks out
Speaker 6: on the field, we're gonna we're gonna hold our breath.
Speaker 6: Every time he's involved in a tackle, We're gonna wait
Speaker 6: and make sure he's okay. I just think that's human nature.
Speaker 6: But given that it apparently is commodio cordis this very
Speaker 6: rare occasion of getting struck in the chest and your
Speaker 6: heart stops, And it happens to anybody, and it happens
Speaker 6: very infrequently. It's not some condition he has. It sounds
Speaker 6: like he's good to go. It really is amazing that
Speaker 6: we're less than four months from the thing happening and
Speaker 6: he is good to go, clean, bell of health, back
Speaker 6: on the bills, and they go forward.
Speaker 1: But Mike could sound strange to say this, but I'm
Speaker 1: more concerned for two a time Goa Aloa than I
Speaker 1: am Tamar Hamlet.
Speaker 6: I think you're absolutely right to be. So we talk
Speaker 6: of Aloa as a guy who is smaller than most quarterbacks.
Speaker 6: The physics aren't on his side. And what have we seen.
Speaker 6: We haven't seen him get drilled in the head by
Speaker 6: somebody who drops their helmet and hits a quarterback the
Speaker 6: way they used to. We see him get shoved at
Speaker 6: the ground, and what happens when he hits the ground,
Speaker 6: His helmet strikes the turf and he gets concussion. It
Speaker 6: happened at least two times. Most of us with common
Speaker 6: sense believe it happened three times last year, despite the
Speaker 6: official claim that it was a back injury. So he's
Speaker 6: working on falling the right way. He's studying jiu jitsu.
Speaker 6: It's one thing to study it, it's another thing to
Speaker 6: put it into practice when you're out on the field.
Speaker 6: That's what I'd be concerned about. I'm concerned about that
Speaker 6: for Bryce Young, He's going to be under two hundred
Speaker 6: pounds when he plays. Can he fall in a way
Speaker 6: that doesn't result in his head striking the turf and
Speaker 6: giving him a brain injury. I'm far more concerned about
Speaker 6: two of than I am DeMar Hamon.
Speaker 1: But aren't they development We're talking to Mike Florio Pro
Speaker 1: Football Talk. Are they developing a new helmet? Just quarterbacks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's got a greater level of protection in the
Speaker 6: back of the helmet. So when that bone hits the ground,
Speaker 6: because that's what we see, the head snaps back and
Speaker 6: the bone hits what can they do to keep the
Speaker 6: brain from being injured. But you know, the bottom line,
Speaker 6: Dan is you can wear the best helmet in the world,
Speaker 6: but when your body is moving and suddenly stops, your
Speaker 6: brain bounces off the inside. There's nothing you can do
Speaker 6: about the brain bouncing off the inside of the skull.
Speaker 6: There's still going to be concussions in football, but you
Speaker 6: can reduce the severity of the blow that comes from
Speaker 6: the outside.
Speaker 1: Any bounce on Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 6: I don't think so, not after what we saw last
Speaker 6: year and this contract now. I'm still waiting for the
Speaker 6: deal to be officially done. Once it's done, we'll be
Speaker 6: able to look at the full details. We'll see what
Speaker 6: the true commitment is. And most importantly, when does the
Speaker 6: window open on the Eagles getting out of it if
Speaker 6: for some reason he regresses. Look at what Russell Wilson
Speaker 6: did last year or didn't do in Denver. The Broncos
Speaker 6: would love to be able to tear that up. They
Speaker 6: can't because of the way the contract is ructured. There's
Speaker 6: so many clues that come from the full details that
Speaker 6: tell us when the Eagles would be able to say,
Speaker 6: Whoop's got that wrong. We're going to move on. But
Speaker 6: there's no reason to think he's not going to get better.
Speaker 6: We saw a Josh Allen type jump from him last year,
Speaker 6: passing and running and leadership and everything the Eagles have
Speaker 6: been looking for since the moment they traded Donov McNabb
Speaker 6: to Washington on Easter Sunday of twenty ten. They've been searching,
Speaker 6: they've been hoping. They thought it was Carson Wentz, it
Speaker 6: wasn't Nick Foles, maybe it wasn't, and now they have
Speaker 6: it in Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1: What's this mean for Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 6: Well, Dan, what I would do right now? We had
Speaker 6: a breakdown yesterday of the contract Jalen Hurts accepted and
Speaker 6: the offer that Lamar Jackson rejected in August, and just
Speaker 6: some of the data points, and we broke them all down.
Speaker 6: We talked about it earlier day on PFT Live as well.
Speaker 6: What I would do if I was Lamar Jackson first
Speaker 6: and foremost is hire an agent second, and he's not
Speaker 6: going to do that. I would get Odell Beckham Junior
Speaker 6: frankly to try to be the go between. Right now,
Speaker 6: there's a hybrid deal to be done between the deal
Speaker 6: that Lamar Jackson rejected last year and the deal that
Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts is doing this week, where you can slap
Speaker 6: the two together and you can come up with something
Speaker 6: that works for Lamar Jackson and Dan at some point,
Speaker 6: regardless of what anyone thinks about the whys and what's
Speaker 6: a play and what factors are being involved, at some point,
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson's got to say yes. He's got to say
Speaker 6: yes to something. You have to look at what's out there.
Speaker 6: It's as good as it's going to get, and you
Speaker 6: just have to say yes and continue your career. And
Speaker 6: if you don't, your career doesn't continue. It's stuck in
Speaker 6: the mud until you finally say yes to something.
Speaker 1: But Mike, he would have already been what two years
Speaker 1: into his old contract, and then we would be two
Speaker 1: years later. Now you're into a new contract, and that's
Speaker 1: you're always going to be underpaid a couple of years
Speaker 1: or a year after you signed your contract in your mind.
Speaker 6: Right, But Dan, here's the bottom line, if he had
Speaker 6: done the deal that Josh Allen did two years ago.
Speaker 6: They were drafted the same year Alan did his contract
Speaker 6: after three seasons, and I remember when the word first
Speaker 6: broke of the Josh Allen contract, I said, I want
Speaker 6: to see that deal because when we see the details,
Speaker 6: it's either going to be the player or the team
Speaker 6: in Baltimore that wants to take that contract and make
Speaker 6: it the contract for Lamar Jackson. When I saw that deal,
Speaker 6: I said, Lamar Jackson should take this to the Ravens
Speaker 6: and say, just cross out the names, change them. This
Speaker 6: is my contract. And when you look at what Josh
Speaker 6: Allen has got the last two years and what Lamar
Speaker 6: Jackson has got, Josh Allen has made forty one million
Speaker 6: more than Lamar Jackson the last two years. And that's
Speaker 6: never coming back. I don't care what you get paid
Speaker 6: going forward, that forty one million is never coming back.
Speaker 6: Those days are done and over. You never get paid
Speaker 6: for what you've previously done. You only get paid for
Speaker 6: the future. So already he's forty one million behind Josh
Speaker 6: Allen and the question is how much worse is it
Speaker 6: going to get?
Speaker 1: The Panthers. GM says that Hanson told anybody who will
Speaker 1: be the number one pick, although Bryce Young has canceled
Speaker 1: all of his other trips elsewhere, which would lead me
Speaker 1: to believe I think the draft starts at too, because
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Texans are so on a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Here feels like Bryce Young is going number one overall. Correct.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And it was a great point that our coordinating
Speaker 6: producer at PFT Live, Matt Case, he texted in while
Speaker 6: we were talking about it today because we played the
Speaker 6: sound of Scott Fitter or the GM of the Panthers
Speaker 6: talking about what they plan to do to put weight
Speaker 6: on Bryce Young, and the way he talked about it.
Speaker 6: When you listen to it, it sounds like it's not
Speaker 6: a hypothetical. It sounds like this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: But do you think the Commissioner has said to Carolina
Speaker 1: just don't say anything here, Dan?
Speaker 6: I look at it this way. If they're not bashful
Speaker 6: about calling their broadcast partners and instructing them to tell
Speaker 6: their reporters to keep their mouths shut about anything they
Speaker 6: know about who the pictu are going going to be,
Speaker 6: they're probably not bascheful about telling the teams. Yeah, they
Speaker 6: want people to tune in from eight o'clock to eight twenty.
Speaker 6: They don't want people tuning in for the Texans pick.
Speaker 6: They want people to be there at eight o'clock thinking
Speaker 6: maybe there's a chance it's not going to be Bryce Young.
Speaker 1: Okay, what is the text? Do you believe the draft
Speaker 1: starts at two?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean they could trade out of that spot. Obviously,
Speaker 6: they could trade down for a team that has plenty
Speaker 6: of needs. You know, if you're not talking about going
Speaker 6: down many picks and you pick up some extra significant
Speaker 6: draft capital, that goes a long way toward blowing the
Speaker 6: fact that they could have had the first overall pick
Speaker 6: if they just hadn't beaten the Colts in the fourth
Speaker 6: quarter of Week eighteen. So it's either quarterback, edge rusher
Speaker 6: or trade down. And you got to consider who their
Speaker 6: coach is now, Demiko Ryans. Where'd he come from San Francisco.
Speaker 6: Let's go back to what we already talked about Ryan's
Speaker 6: first year as defensive coordinator. They give up three ones
Speaker 6: and a three to get Trey Lance. How that work out?
Speaker 6: Second year, they take a flyer with the last pick
Speaker 6: in the draft on brock Purty. How that work out?
Speaker 6: What do you think Ryan's wants. Do you think Ryan's
Speaker 6: wants a guy who could be there, Nick Bosa in
Speaker 6: an edge rusher at number two, or does Ryans want
Speaker 6: to put all the eggs in a quarterback basket and
Speaker 6: have it possibly blow up on them, so he may
Speaker 6: be pushing defensive player to supercharge that side of the ball.
Speaker 6: You can get a quarter back later or and I
Speaker 6: always advocate this because in my mind, the draft is
Speaker 6: a lottery. The more lottery tickets you have, the better
Speaker 6: chance you have to get players that turn around, especially
Speaker 6: a bad team trade down if you can get more picks.
Speaker 1: Explain the new wonder lick or is it the new wonderlick?
Speaker 1: The S two test for players quarterbacks, Well.
Speaker 6: The S two test, as I understand, it is about
Speaker 6: cognitive ability in the heat of the moment, processing information
Speaker 6: when you're in that blender of factors. You think about
Speaker 6: everything a quarterback has to deal with pre snap, post snap,
Speaker 6: all the information about processing recall. And Bryce Young did
Speaker 6: really well on it, and the Panthers are big believers
Speaker 6: in it, specifically their owner David Tepper. So this is
Speaker 6: a way unique to quarterbacks when you are the one
Speaker 6: who is standing there where all that stuff's happening. Think
Speaker 6: about all the variables, which receivers open, who's blitzing? Can
Speaker 6: I trust my running back to pick this guy up?
Speaker 6: Who else is coming around? So they're using that now
Speaker 6: the wonderlick is worthless. This to the extent that there's
Speaker 6: a dotted line or a bright line connection helps teams
Speaker 6: understand how that guy's going to do when it's time
Speaker 6: to stand in there and decide where to throw the football.
Speaker 1: Always great to talk to you. He's Mike Florio in
Speaker 1: his new book about his h father who was a
Speaker 1: bookie and probably saw some bad people in Pittsburgh. That's
Speaker 1: that's not the official title. It's just called father of Mine,
Speaker 1: not father of mine, who was a bookie who saw
Speaker 1: bad things happen with the mob in Pittsburgh A legends
Speaker 1: or possibly available next Tuesday. Thank you mine, Thanks d
Speaker 1: Thank you mine. My bookie was He was known locally
Speaker 1: in a very upstanding businessman. And uh I remember he
Speaker 1: drove a Lincoln Continental a mark three. It was a
Speaker 1: blue mark three. And there's a reason why he drove
Speaker 1: that and lived in a real nice house. Because bookies
Speaker 1: make the money, not the people who bet with the bookies, Yes, Tod.
Speaker 4: How upstanding were the people that would come to your
Speaker 4: house if you didn't pay off? What do you like?
Speaker 1: I never I always paid, But once again I was
Speaker 1: semi involved. My bookie took bets from the guy who
Speaker 1: took bets with Pete Rose. Sometimes he would offload some
Speaker 1: of his bets, or my bookie would take bets from
Speaker 1: Pete when the other bookie wasn't available. So I knew
Speaker 1: what was going on for a long time when this
Speaker 1: was and Pete was not a good gambler, but to
Speaker 1: be able to kind of figure out what's going on,
Speaker 1: and it's always it's humbling when you walk over to
Speaker 1: somebody and their house and you knock on the door
Speaker 1: and the you know, the wife comes to the door
Speaker 1: and I ask if such and such as in a
Speaker 1: home and yes he is, and you know he I'm
Speaker 1: out and I had to give him my money. And
Speaker 1: then you go, all right, I'll talk to you on Sunday.
Speaker 1: And you know, I didn't have the money to bet.
Speaker 1: But you always think you're smarter, like, hey, I know football,
Speaker 1: well you can know football, but not know how to gamble.
Speaker 1: And then it took me a long time and then
Speaker 1: I realized I could do it and make some money,
Speaker 1: and thankfully, thankfully, thankfully, I lost thirty three hundred dollars
Speaker 1: on a the last bet I ever placed college football
Speaker 1: bowl game. If I had won it, I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's any guarantee that I would have been able
Speaker 1: to walk away. Yeah, I guarantee.
Speaker 5: You've been driving a Camaro though.
Speaker 1: No Corvette. Oh yeah, done it? No, I was. If
Speaker 1: I won, I would have had nine thousand dollars. So
Speaker 1: I had six thousand dollars and I put thirty I
Speaker 1: put three thousand down on this bowl game, and I
Speaker 1: lost the wig. So thirty three hundred bought my mama dishwasher,
Speaker 1: and then I bought myself an old beat up Toyota
Speaker 1: Selica and had a little bit of money for college.
Speaker 1: And then that was it. I rode off into the sunset. Thankfully.
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Speaker 10: Give me the hell?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was it on this day? Todd in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety five? This is the number one song in America?
Speaker 4: Got that right?
Speaker 3: God?
Speaker 1: Who sings this?
Speaker 4: Montel Jordan.
Speaker 1: I always think of the talk show host Montel Williams. Okay, fantastic, fantastic,
Speaker 1: love this song.
Speaker 4: You got to get into this. This is this is
Speaker 4: good stuff right there?
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean it's fine, it's fun.
Speaker 4: It's lively it's like down the window. He's like, let's go.
Speaker 1: By the way. I don't know if you saw this
Speaker 1: last week. Evan Gattis last week admitted that when he
Speaker 1: was with the Astros, they knew the pitches that were
Speaker 1: coming in the twenty seventeen World Series. And the reason
Speaker 1: why I bring this up is Clayton Kershaw got his
Speaker 1: two hundred to win last night. But since they started
Speaker 1: keeping track of swinging and missing strikes on breaking balls
Speaker 1: this was two thousand and eight, no picture has had
Speaker 1: more than twenty two hundred of them except for Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 1: He's had over thirty five hundred swing and misses on
Speaker 1: his breaking ball. So he threw fifty one breaking balls
Speaker 1: in Game five against the Astros. You know how many
Speaker 1: swing and misses he had against the Astros. Zero stat
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 6: Day, Stat of the day that past Dad.
Speaker 1: That might lead you to believe the Astros knew what
Speaker 1: pitches were coming on That's interesting. Yes, So the man
Speaker 1: who has over thirty five hundred swings and misses had
Speaker 1: fifty one breaking balls in the game against the Astros
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, and he didn't get one Astro to
Speaker 1: swing and miss just yeah, just a Quinn can read
Speaker 1: it all right, fair enough, fair enough. Let me see
Speaker 1: Doug in North Carolina. Hi, Doug, welcome back. What do
Speaker 1: you have for me?
Speaker 6: Dan?
Speaker 10: Just two quick questions. One, if the NFL has these
Speaker 10: newsafer helmets, why does only one position get them? And two?
Speaker 10: Does de mar Hamlin have to perform to be comeback player?
Speaker 10: Does he just have to take the field? I mean,
Speaker 10: does he have to do a couple of picks or
Speaker 10: does he actually just have to take the field to
Speaker 10: be the comeback player of the year.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works as far as Vegas
Speaker 1: paying that off. But right now, the odds on favorite
Speaker 1: and I think they're just trying out the helmets on
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. But I I hope that this is something
Speaker 1: that's universal.
Speaker 5: Yes, Paula, Yeah, this specific helmet that they're doing for
Speaker 5: quarterbacks is because of the odds that a quarterback has
Speaker 5: that whiplash fall to the ground thing. So there's a
Speaker 5: different type of I guess plate lack of a better word,
Speaker 5: in the back.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me see Gavin in Kansas. Hey, Gavin, Hey,
Speaker 1: then you guys doing great? What's on your mind?
Speaker 8: I was going back to the villains and bad guys
Speaker 8: of sports, and here in Kansas.
Speaker 10: You know, my favorite team being the Royals and stuff
Speaker 10: up north.
Speaker 8: I was thinking of all this Chapman since we.
Speaker 6: Just signed him.
Speaker 1: He's up there, he's up there. He got a little
Speaker 1: baggage there, real bad guy. Yeah yeah, Paulie. This day
Speaker 1: in sports history.
Speaker 5: The first Boston Marathon was held in eighteen ninety seven.
Speaker 5: Nineteen sixty, baseball uniforms began displaying players' names on their backs.
Speaker 5: We didn't have that before nineteen ten, just a number.
Speaker 5: Let's see Philadelphie seventy six ers. In nineteen eight eight
Speaker 5: tired Julis ear rings number six. Before the game, doctor
Speaker 5: J statue was also unveiled. Michael Jordan won his sixth
Speaker 5: consecutive NBA scoring title. He had ten overall.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that's it, okay. I know on this date
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, Evander Holyfield beat George Foreman heavyweight title,
Speaker 1: and Michael Spinks beat Larry Holmes to reap. Michael Spinks
Speaker 1: beat Larry Holmes twice. And then I saw Michael Spinks
Speaker 1: fight Mike Tyson. Oh my goodness, that's when you see fear.
Speaker 1: It was real, like you're looking in the ring and
Speaker 1: you're seeing fear from a great boxer. If you could
Speaker 1: have said Mike to Spinks, you're going to go down
Speaker 1: in the third round and uh it might hurt a
Speaker 1: little bit, but you can get out right now, he
Speaker 1: would have signed up for that. Todd, what'd you learn
Speaker 1: on today's program?
Speaker 6: You feel conduct detrimental to the game is what ultimately
Speaker 6: got Draymond suspended on and just a stomping act itself.
Speaker 1: Seet no' connor.
Speaker 3: People talk trash to Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: Yeah they do, Yeah, they did. No, they don't they did,
Speaker 1: they did. Yes, Marvin, you brought your mamma dishwasher. Yes,
Speaker 1: I did my gambling profits.
Speaker 5: Paulie, a fan on Twitter, said, if there was a
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