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Speaker 1: New face, new face Man, story time of legendary Jerry.

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Speaker 1: What's that for, Jerry hey Man? Because I had this

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Speaker 1: brother on the show before, but I really truly been

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Speaker 1: looking forward to having him back. And he's here, and

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Speaker 1: we got some real, real not just a line of royalty,

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Speaker 1: but we got man, We got hip hop orty. Anytime

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Speaker 1: it's you know, the King steps in the building, you

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Speaker 1: have to uh the reason he's here because we want

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Speaker 1: to give him more flowers, because of what he's meaning,

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Speaker 1: what he's meant to the culture. Sof I get in

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Speaker 1: all that, Jerry Clark a k a d. Legendary Jerry,

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Speaker 1: this is story time of legendary Jerry. I got my brother,

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Speaker 1: new face here, and y'all already heard intro. Who we

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Speaker 1: got here? The mother fucking king in the building. Well

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Speaker 1: we we We are truly incredible. Thank you for coming, man.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate having you again. This is the second time

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Speaker 1: you came about five years ago.

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Speaker 2: I know you see it might have been sick, see

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Speaker 2: I relocated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, matter of fact, this is powered by iHeart. We

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Speaker 1: make sure this is powered by iHeart. But yeah, last

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Speaker 1: time we was on, you know, I was in a

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Speaker 1: little makeship spot did you see I came up, man, I.

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Speaker 2: Came You know what I'm saying, trap until you meet

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Speaker 2: the plug.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Man. Now I am the plug, that's right.

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Speaker 1: So let me just say this before we jump into

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Speaker 1: any music stuff. Man, sitting back watching what you're doing

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Speaker 1: and all of the stuff.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Just want to tell you, man, and man, tell us

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Speaker 1: on the media. What's going on with some of the

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Speaker 1: stuff you're doing here in your hometown.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, it's an honor to be

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Speaker 2: And feel the.

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Speaker 3: Need of you know, the problems that exist in our communities,

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Speaker 3: one of which, especially in Atlanta is affordable housing.

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Speaker 2: With so much.

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Speaker 3: Affluence moving into the city within the real estate market,

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Speaker 3: you know, the taxes arising, prices arising, uh and a

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Speaker 2: So they being pushed to the outskirts. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. And you know, one way to combat that.

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Speaker 3: Is to provide or assist with providing affordable housing. And

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Speaker 3: and forty three units of affordable housing. Man to my

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Speaker 3: old community, my my home, the my all, my mata

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Speaker 3: that's the community that celebrated me first, recognized my talents

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Speaker 1: Now I know what you're doing is out of the

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Speaker 1: into politics? No? Oh, that was quick because me and me,

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Speaker 3: You, I think Mike should I think Mike told him, don't.

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Speaker 1: Why you say that.

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Speaker 2: I just think that he has, you know, had a

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Speaker 3: Has a lot of the meticulous information. It takes the meticulous,

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying, a lot of you know, a lot.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I think that he has

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Speaker 3: He grew up going to city council meetings and you

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean blue flames might you know that may

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Speaker 3: I really think that, Uh. I think that's sad. I

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Speaker 2: The perfect images.

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Speaker 1: Definitely.

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Speaker 2: So I just think, man, we got to wake up.

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Speaker 3: Man, we got to wake up and get out of

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Speaker 3: this fantasy world that everybody's living a life of perfection.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can't keep judging people just because they

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Speaker 3: Everybody everybody got some everybody got something that they've had

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Speaker 3: so I was a better person. Every saint has a past,

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Speaker 1: A few tip I'm growing deaily.

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Speaker 2: You feel me. I'm still and that's good man. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm just glad that this ain't the end of my story.

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Speaker 3: You know, had my story ended in ninety five ninety six,

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Wasn't no happy ending there.

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Speaker 3: But I think you know, the more God's grace continues

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Speaking speaking of blessings,

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Speaker 1: is KP. Kawan Prather, right, K Great. It's always good

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Speaker 1: seeing his brother. Man. His brother always got great energy

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Speaker 1: and he was very, very very instrumental in your whole career.

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Speaker 1: And I just saw, I think it was recently you

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Speaker 1: A lot of people that's watching story Time of legend

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Likewise, I think that I think I've told this story

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. KP is the gentleman.

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Speaker 3: Who saw my talent and the first person that I

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Speaker 2: But the thing.

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Speaker 1: Is, we're gonna have KP on the show coming up

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Speaker 3: I believe KP know correct me if I wrong. I

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Speaker 1: So the I just wanted to briefly just touch on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's who he is and he took

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Speaker 1: And turning to Megan Mobile, yeah well he.

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Speaker 3: Really just you know, offered me an opportunity, man, and

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Speaker 1: Me Maneter Great, he's here in the building with he's

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Speaker 1: we had Shorty Red on the show and we asked

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Speaker 1: And who was Yeah so, and that's coming from Shorty Red.

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Speaker 1: And you know he had he didn't work with everybody.

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Speaker 2: And he definitely had, Yeah, definitely had.

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Speaker 4: He talked about the record to Wash the Duck record

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Speaker 4: and working with you later man, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That was that was fat.

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Speaker 1: All these producers over the years you worked where you

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Speaker 1: To who you didn't get a chance to work with

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Speaker 3: Man, Timbling is somebody that I always felt like I

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Speaker 3: should we should have dedicated more time and attention to

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Speaker 3: to to Iye, collaboration, organized noise.

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Speaker 1: You know, God did not ever come to fish me

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Speaker 1: just talking about you know, it's not out of a

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We always and we all

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Speaker 2: and also not.

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Speaker 3: Out of a lack of interest. You know, we have

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Speaker 3: a lot of love and respect for one another. Uh,

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Speaker 3: the whole Dungeon family. And I'm still you know, working

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Speaker 3: diligently to put it together. But while we add it,

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Speaker 3: you know, just just just think, oh, the bomb squad. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let me see who.

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Speaker 1: Else I'm really tripping on this organized organized noise?

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Speaker 2: Warren g Uh battle Cat. Uh.

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Speaker 3: So let me see here, there's so many bro, there's

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Speaker 3: so many people Rizzle, There's so many people, bro, There's

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Speaker 3: so many people that I could just continue to name

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Speaker 2: I loved it.

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Speaker 1: Now, what I'm telling you, we've been controlling the narrative.

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Speaker 2: What is controlling the narrative?

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Speaker 1: We damn sure still don't. That's when we got story.

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Speaker 2: We've definitely become a hub.

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Speaker 3: We've earned the right to command, even to say over

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Speaker 3: that's a bit of gregious, I will say, because when

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Speaker 2: The South got under same?

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Speaker 1: What that nive?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's when it started.

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen, listen, not I said, we have controlled the

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Speaker 2: What do you consider controlling the narrative?

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Speaker 1: Influence, that's.

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Speaker 3: The same anything.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I know the world.

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Speaker 1: So look for twenty five for over half. Look, just

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Speaker 1: hear me out. I'm here, heritage, I waiting on you

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Speaker 1: I don't want we definitely don't want nobody. I was.

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: To be honest with you, man, I always felt the

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Speaker 2: It could possibly be.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that there is you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure say that.

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Speaker 3: Again, I said, I don't think that there is a

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you could definitely say that, you say the.

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Speaker 3: But the problem about it was that it wasn't enough exposure,

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Speaker 1: So let me make sure I get this right. What

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Speaker 1: you're saying is that there's just as much balance in

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Speaker 1: and mid nineties. It's more fuck reembullshit than this is.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying that just as much good as you can

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And when I say that, right now we are at

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Speaker 3: We've cut out the middle me in right, so that

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Speaker 3: Now what negative is there's no filtration system. There's no filter,

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Speaker 1: See, but you're talking about the process. I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: I look at it in the seventies.

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Speaker 1: But don't try me that much. We're getting up the

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Speaker 2: Now we are not.

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Speaker 1: So let me let me let me say so from

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Speaker 2: I would say eighty seven to ninety seven, let's say that.

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Speaker 1: But then on the flip side, we had the public enemies,

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Speaker 1: Here in the rest of development. Then even when outcasting

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Speaker 2: That's not true. That is not true. That is not true.

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Speaker 2: Again what but get with those? Get with those? So

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Speaker 3: We had the public enemies, we had the tribes, we

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Speaker 3: They wasn't being exposed to the rest of the world

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Speaker 1: It took a minute exactly right.

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Speaker 3: Now, you got artists like Kendrick is out selling or

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Speaker 1: So I just want to make sure you send it.

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Speaker 1: It's the same balance.

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Speaker 3: You keep asking me the same question, like like you,

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Speaker 3: I just want to.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you stand like you gotta business. I said

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Speaker 1: what I said, he's standing on business.

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Speaker 2: I birthed. I birthed the young man who coined who

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