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Speaker 1: The volume What is going on Everybody? John Middlecoff three

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Speaker 1: and out podcast How is Everybody Doing? Brought to you

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Speaker 1: by my friends at Zone Pouches. Today, we're gonna throw

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Speaker 1: a little curveball. We are gonna talk a little college football.

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Speaker 1: My guy, he used to be intern Jackson, now he's

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Speaker 1: lot of college football. We actually recorded something and then

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Speaker 1: the news broke at about two point thirty in the

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Speaker 1: afternoon Arizona time, and uh Michigan has fired their coach,

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Speaker 1: Sharon Moore. I just saw a tweet that there was

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Speaker 1: a relaylationship with a staff member that they uncovered. AKA,

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Speaker 1: we were looking for a reason and we got one,

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Speaker 1: we had recorded the podcast and then not long after

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Speaker 1: it goes immediately viral. It's probably going nuts right now.

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Speaker 1: A massive, massive news that Michigan has fired Sharon More

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Speaker 1: And the part that's crazy is because I saw a

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Speaker 1: clip of him talking about the Bowl game. So when

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Speaker 1: I just first saw the news, I'm like, God, that's

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Speaker 1: kind of weird. They would never have rolled him out

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Speaker 1: to talk about the Bowl game. Turns out he's getting

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Speaker 1: fired for cause for having a relationship with a staff member.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to guess. I would imagine potential who knows.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if the guy's married or whatever.

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Speaker 1: My initial reaction is this, And I've heard a couple

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Speaker 1: of people say this about Lane. You know, at some

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Speaker 1: of these programs, if you're winning, you can do whatever

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Speaker 1: you want. But at the biggest programs, when they are

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Speaker 1: paying you a ton of money and they are paying

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Speaker 1: their roster a ton of money, especially a place like Michigan,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna watch you like a hawk, and if it

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Speaker 1: doesn't go perfectly well, they're gonna look for a reason.

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Speaker 1: It's like Cedric the entertainer used to say, I wish

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Speaker 1: a motherfucker would And I think when it starts going

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Speaker 1: less than ten wins, less than playoff bursts, you start

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Speaker 1: looking around like we want out of this. But you

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Speaker 1: know it wasn't bad enough where you could just pull

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Speaker 1: the trigger and fire a guy nine and three, Like

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Speaker 1: to me seven and five, maybe you just fire him

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Speaker 1: after the season nine and three you just signed, you know,

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Speaker 1: this star quarterback who obviously had an up and down year.

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Speaker 1: The offense didn't look great. You get completely worked by

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Speaker 1: Ohio State after the first couple drives. It was not

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Speaker 1: going well. You know. Last year kind of saved the season.

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Speaker 1: It did not go well either. They literally didn't have

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Speaker 1: it took a ton of pressure off everybody that was

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Speaker 1: I think it all gets back to they were looking

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Speaker 1: for a reason. And if you tell me and this

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Speaker 1: is I would say the same thing for Lane that

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Speaker 1: at these places. When it doesn't go well, everyone in

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Speaker 1: the town talks. The university will fall. They will know

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure this thing's gonna get ugly. This, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's one thing if you're Bobby Patrino and you get

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Speaker 1: Sharon's like, yeah, are you an offensive line coach? So

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Speaker 1: this guy was given an incredible opportunity taking over for Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: a massive job. I mean, if this job was open,

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinators interested. But this is this was just a

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Speaker 1: wow moment, My guy Jackson, you sent the the tweet

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Speaker 1: I think from on three is Peter and Nacos do

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Speaker 1: Is that how you say his name? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Peter Nacos, Pete Famill.

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Speaker 1: I'm speechless. I'm stunned.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a guy that we said on

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Speaker 2: He was there with him, but I always felt like

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Speaker 2: it was just not the right move. He was kind

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Speaker 2: both injured. This is a sticky situation, and I think

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Speaker 2: if you are in Michigan, you're right, Like if you

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Speaker 2: I think of Bryce Underwood, the guy, the twenty million

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Speaker 2: committed to. Now with Lane Kiffen there would he even

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Speaker 2: you're right, I mean, this is like the best job,

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Speaker 2: I would say outside of LSU if this was at

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Speaker 2: tough to fire a coach that went nine to three

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Speaker 2: I don't know where Michigan goes from here.

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Speaker 1: In the nil era, you could argue it's an even

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Speaker 1: as equal to Ohio State. I'd give Ohio State the

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Speaker 1: Conra Stallion's right, so it's it's kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it a self imposed suspension Again, it's just hard

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Speaker 1: to keep up. I think Michigan wants one thing in

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Speaker 1: a weird way. They try to conduct themselves like we're

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Speaker 1: not lsu or like we're not as renegade, right, we're

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Speaker 1: much more kind of hot, notre dame. You know that

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Speaker 1: do it the right way. And then they got hardboughties like, ah,

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Speaker 1: carnish Stallions. But yeah, this is a stunning But I'm

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Speaker 1: that's like an untouchable, you better be very careful about

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Speaker 1: so much on the line that it was nine and three,

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Speaker 1: but it was not a great nine and three. Right,

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma USC on the road they lost by eighteen at USC.

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Speaker 1: Their passing game was atrocious, you know, and this guy,

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Speaker 1: he's an offensive guy, so I think they'd go. Let's

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Speaker 1: just assume you know better than me. Is he considered

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Speaker 1: like some elite recruiter, probably you know, former offensive linemen

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Speaker 2: I feel like he relates to players. Well, I don't

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Speaker 2: I mean, him and Bryce Underwood had a good relationship.

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Speaker 2: Even though you want to say his offensive play Caln

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Speaker 1: Twenty million dollars. I have a good relationship with anyone.

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Speaker 1: I mean what that is true? That is true to me.

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Speaker 1: It's more I think you start looking like Ohio State's

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Speaker 1: way more dynamic than us. You know, Oregon, even if

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Speaker 1: And I would say the same thing. It's a higher

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Speaker 1: what he does, scoring points, running the offense. But if

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Speaker 1: and Lane's doing what he's doing, you know, it's these

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Speaker 1: your rival. The other thing is they'd go, well, you

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Speaker 1: got to be very very careful. Also about hiring the

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Speaker 1: Can you hire him now? No? You know, Jed Fish

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Speaker 1: Can you hire Jeff Hafley? I I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I don't know what Brian Kelly's record was against Notre

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Speaker 1: Like you're talking about Big Ten? But this is what

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Speaker 1: amount of five star guys that never amount to anything

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Speaker 1: in college football that are on It happens all the time.

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Speaker 1: Dylan RelA Like, if I'm laying given what it would

432
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Speaker 1: cost to acquire this guy, I wouldn't pay. I would

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Speaker 1: get Sam Levitt. I I want to pass Lane just

434
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: went eleven and one in the SEC with a D

435
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Speaker 1: two quarterback. Why because Trinidak can pass right.

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Speaker 2: He could get him too if he because he's trying

437
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Speaker 2: to get a waiver for another eligibility year. He could

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Speaker 2: get Shamblis or Austin Simmons.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, exactly, I can just get a guy that

440
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Speaker 1: I know, like can run my offensive back. Like there

441
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: is no guarantee, Like there's like a fifty fifty shot.

442
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: This guy is always going to kind of look like this, right,

443
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 1: some talent, but just not great, Like there's no there's

444
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Speaker 1: just no guarantee. Just because you're a five star, you

445
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: make twenty million dollars, you're ever gonna be a good player,

446
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: and it's not Football is not basketball, right, like you

447
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: watch the kid at BYU or you know Boozer's kid

448
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: of Duke. Like in basketball, you know right away. Football

449
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: sometimes it starts to loow, like if you tell me

450
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Speaker 1: next year, Arch is way better, very believable. If you

451
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Speaker 1: tell me Arch always looks like this, also believable. You

452
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 1: have no clue at quarterbacks specifically other positions, is like, okay,

453
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Speaker 1: this guy's tough enough. We just need to get him

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Speaker 1: a little stronger. He needs to add like twenty pounds,

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Speaker 1: like okay. Quarterbacks usually like we hope, right, It's like

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Speaker 1: that in the NFL draft, Like I think for Nando

457
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Speaker 1: Mendez will probably be a good NFL player. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe not. No one has any clue. And I'd say quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Look at receivers, you kind of know right away. I

460
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Speaker 1: think quarterback is just very it can be very, very risky.

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Speaker 2: Last name I'll throw you see Minor, the defensive coordinator

462
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Speaker 2: for the Charters. I know he might be up for

463
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: head coaching jobs, but he was a DC at Michigan.

464
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Speaker 2: Another guy that could maybe come back.

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Speaker 1: That's not a bad name. I do think though, if

466
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Speaker 1: Michigan goes, we open up, this is our opportunity to

467
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Speaker 1: land quote unquote big fish that I think some of

468
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Speaker 1: these names, the mentors, they're just not I mean I

469
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Speaker 1: think now it's like, okay, let's go get a superstar.

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Speaker 1: Let's go get our Dan Lanning, Kirby, whoever. It's like, well,

471
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Speaker 1: who's that guy? If you if you tell me Jesse

472
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Speaker 1: Mintor as their next coach, you think, like Michigan Reddit

473
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Speaker 1: and their fan base is going to be fired up,

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Speaker 1: no offense. I mean, clearly he's really good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't get me wrong, I'm I'm really impressed with him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how long he was there? Two years? I

477
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Speaker 1: don't know. I my initial reaction and maybe I'm wrong.

478
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Speaker 1: I think they're kind of in a weird spot. But

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Speaker 1: I think their job so good. Like I mean, they

480
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Speaker 1: could do worse than Kaitlin do poor. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think hiring Kalind Borr as it would have been two

482
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Speaker 1: years ago would have been like hell yeah, and now

483
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Speaker 1: it'd be like are we sure he's that good? And

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Speaker 1: that's the business they're in. It's like things change as

485
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Speaker 1: you win and lose, But really we just judge your

486
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Speaker 1: teams and I'm a Deboor guy. All he's ever done

487
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Speaker 1: is one He likes to pass a lot more he

488
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Speaker 1: likes to run. And I think the one thing in

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten, even Ohio State, like their wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: You when do they not Okay, we gotta rush this

491
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Speaker 1: game one hundred yards? Like, look they have the two

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Speaker 1: guys last year. Immediately this Bo Jackson guy looks like

493
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Speaker 1: Bo Jackson two point zero. Like he's gonna be I me,

494
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: a kid's gonna be incredible, probably, right, I mean, think

495
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Speaker 1: how much better he will be next year, full year offseason.

496
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Speaker 1: He's a true freshman, right, And they just showed the

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Speaker 1: stat up during the game like they've had five true

498
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Speaker 1: freshmans hit a thousand yards and you're like, damn, that's

499
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Speaker 1: a list. It's like Maurice Corette Traveon Henderson, like it's

500
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Speaker 1: a pretty good list of sweet dudes. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you just look Michigan now, granted they're running back got

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Speaker 1: hurt this year, but like they're running back Blake Koram,

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Speaker 1: it has been hurt before, Like they you should have

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Speaker 1: like a stable of three backs and that that to me,

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Speaker 1: the Kalyn Debor thing would be he's more into passing

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Speaker 1: than running.

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Speaker 2: It's like the flashy name, but it's not what the

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Speaker 2: fit of Michigan would want because I know Michigan fans.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've heard some on Twitter, and I know

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Speaker 2: I'm not a big finish for real more, you gotta

511
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Speaker 2: be kind of thrilled that, like okay, like there's a

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Speaker 2: reason that he's gone, But the timing of it sucks.

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Speaker 2: The timing of it is horrible. I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: they biff Biff for a year, like interim guy. I

515
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Speaker 2: know he's interim, but like you got, I mean you

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Speaker 2: also have time to like get a guy. I just

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Speaker 2: I don't have no idea who you would go out

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Speaker 2: and get with this situation unless they have a plan

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Speaker 2: that they kind of just drop this right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are they still going to play in this

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Speaker 1: Bowl game? I mean, if you're texts right now, like

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Speaker 1: are they still committed? I mean this kind of throws

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Speaker 1: everything in the loop. Yeah, just just crazy, crazy story.

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Speaker 1: I guess I text with you every day. But how

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Speaker 1: are you doing, buddy? I'm good man.

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Speaker 2: If I would have told you in this college football

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00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 2: sport is just one of the more unpredictable years, one

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Speaker 2: of the more chaotic years. If I would have told

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Speaker 2: you in January, even August that Penn State and Clemson

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Speaker 2: will be playing in December, you would have been ecstatic.

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Speaker 2: But right now you know they're playing each other, but

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Speaker 2: seven and five, six and six, and they're playing in

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Speaker 2: the Pinstripe Bowl. So that's what tells you about how

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Speaker 2: crazy this year's been.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I this morning I was

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Speaker 1: doing something, And I thought, I have no clue who's

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Speaker 1: playing in any of the Bowl games beside because I

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Speaker 1: saw something on social media that Texas is playing Michigan.

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Speaker 1: But usually when the Bowl, you know, our entire life

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Speaker 1: up until I guess last year, a lot of ball

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Speaker 1: matches like, oh, Alabama's playing so and so it's like

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Speaker 1: it does show you that it's rendering. I had no clue.

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Speaker 1: It's Penn State and Clemson. Yeah, and I would imagine

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Speaker 1: especially for Dabbo, and he's gonna take that really seriously

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Speaker 1: because he can finish what eight and five? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think there are yeah seven and five right now?

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Speaker 2: The finished eight and five horrible year even with Penn State,

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Speaker 2: like they barely beat Rutgers Terry Smith's f last game

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Speaker 2: as the interim head coach. Sure they got a lot

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Speaker 2: of seniors offensively, like Kate Troon, Allen, Nicholas Singleton, Iowa,

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Speaker 2: you got Iowa, Vanerbilt.

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Speaker 1: We can start there on. Not bad. I mean, see,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. I mean the Bowl games. People crush them,

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Speaker 1: especially Pete Vauqua, but there is an entertainment aspect for

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Speaker 1: the consumer, which is the second biggest sport in America

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Speaker 1: now college football. And there's also like for the kids

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Speaker 1: that play in the game, like we understand it, cam Ward,

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, Leonard Fourndatt. I mean, I'm missing one hundred guys,

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Speaker 1: but individuals are gonna get drafted high whatever. I don't

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Speaker 1: even care, but it's still entertaining to watch. If you're

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Speaker 1: a red shirt freshman or a backup special teamer at

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Speaker 1: Clemson at Iowa, like in a couple of years, you

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Speaker 1: could be a second round pick. Like these guys are

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Speaker 1: the you know Kate Tron Allen and these guys at

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Speaker 1: Penn State a couple of years ago, it's like they

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Speaker 1: it would have been their moment kind of shine is

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Speaker 1: whoever that version is Micah Parsons is leaving, sae Quon's leaving,

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Speaker 1: like that's usually where they explode on the scene. Now

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Speaker 1: I've also heard, and you know this being a college

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Speaker 1: football junkie, is coaches don't want to expose these guys.

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Speaker 1: It's why they all started canceling the spring game, right

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Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, it's like, dagn I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give that guy a text message.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of plays effected. That's actually a good point,

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Speaker 2: because the transfer portal's January second through the sixteenth, so

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Speaker 2: it's like this period we'd see a lot of guys

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Speaker 2: transfer out, and a lot of guys have already declared

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Speaker 2: they're hitting the portal, but technically they can't hit it

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Speaker 2: till January second.

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Speaker 1: We all know there's tampering going on.

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Speaker 2: Most of those kids might even get signed like the

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Speaker 2: day of that first transfer portal game. So you're right,

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Speaker 2: and that kind of implies to we can transition to

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Speaker 2: this the whole Notre Dame conundrum. Obviously, them opting out

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Speaker 2: of a bowl game, being super upset, the eighties hit

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Speaker 2: temper tantrum at the ACC. I don't know where you

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Speaker 2: want to start with this. I know there's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Probably we want to go to the eighty because before this,

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Speaker 2: you and I probably are the same opinion. Obviously I'm

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Speaker 2: a Notre Dame fan, but it's just one of those things.

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Speaker 2: It's just been dragged out a long time, and I

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Speaker 2: get Notre Dame was upset, and it's the committee's fault

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Speaker 2: for having them ranked. I think they were tenth in Miami,

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Speaker 2: was eighteenth at November ninth, and now we see here

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Speaker 2: a month later, there out of the playoff. But what

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Speaker 2: do you make of this whole an athletic director. Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame just kind of in the spotlight this week for

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Speaker 2: the wrong reasons.

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Speaker 1: That Notre Dame helmet behind you, Pete levaqu was sending

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Speaker 1: you that or so pretty.

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Speaker 2: No, my dad got it, No, he did get I

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Speaker 2: will accept the helmet though, if they do give me one.

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Speaker 1: I understand. You know, I would say Notre Dame fans

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Speaker 1: are all in agreement that they got screwed and are

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Speaker 1: very angry and are cool with not playing the game.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think Brady Quinn seen him tweet stuff.

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Speaker 1: I heard him on the radio this morning. He's adam

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Speaker 1: it that this whole thing is stupid playing in a

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Speaker 1: game and it doesn't matter. I couldn't disagree anymore. But

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Speaker 1: we will get into that in a second. There are

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Speaker 1: still a couple brands that I would say people A

642
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: lot of people hate, right Yankees. You know, I think

643
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: it's probably a little less now, but for a long time,

644
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: the Lakers duke basketball, and a lot of it has

645
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: to do with jealousy. Right. Part of the reason I

646
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: hate the Lakers is because when I was in junior

647
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: high in high school. They were incredible. They had Phil Jackson,

648
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neil and Kobe Bryant and Phil Jackson Shaquille O'Neil

649
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: would constantly make fun of Sacramento. So it's like, fuck

650
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: you guys, right, you hate, but it was out of jealousy.

651
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: They were kind of right. Obviously Los Angeles and where

652
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: these guys lived. It was just cooler that Brian was

653
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: bigger that you know, but you hate them because you're

654
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: kind of not them, And I think Notre Dame definitely

655
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: was like that for an older generation, right, you know,

656
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: from Rudy to Joe Montana to the eighties, like they

657
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: were dominant program. You see these thirty for thirties most

658
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: of my life, especially my adult life of watching sports

659
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: since like the late nineties, Like they've been fine. They've

660
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: had some really good years, like the I think the

661
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: first Charlie Wist year, they were pretty good maybe first

662
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: or second. Obviously some Brian Kelly years and he's hateable,

663
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: but like their team isn't necessarily so I think they've

664
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: lost some of the luster of like, well everyone just

665
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: hates it. No. I actually think of most people that

666
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: are like under fifty fall in my category are kind

667
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: of indifferent, like if they're good, like it was fun

668
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: watching them last year. They have some really good players.

669
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: If they're bad, like whatever, not really paying attention. It's

670
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: kind of like Miami. If you're a thirty year old

671
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: college football fan, like you just turned twenty six, do

672
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: you remember Miami being incredible because in your life, guess

673
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: what they have not been. How old were you in

674
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: two thousand and one? What year were you born? Ninety nine?

675
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: So I was like two or three. You don't remember

676
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: ed Reid saying dominate because Joaquin told us to dominate,

677
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: Like you don't remember that day. But if I say

678
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: Ohio State, you've been like they've been dominant your entire Alabama.

679
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: So I think the college landscape has changed and they're

680
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: kind of holding themselves like we are. Like back if

681
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: you watch the Cowboys documentary with Jerry Jones, he used

682
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: to like piss people off with like merchandise and he

683
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: wanted higher percentages. It's like, but when you tell a

684
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: young guy about Jerry Jones, they just look at the Cowboys.

685
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: It's like, what's going on? Like it? So I think

686
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: they carry themselves in this pete Vavakua guy. And I'll

687
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: use the NFL as an example. There's a reason that

688
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 1: like during the season, Howie Roseman doesn't speak all the time,

689
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: Siriani is the guy speaking, or John Schneider will see

690
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: out the head coach. So it's like Pete Levaqua, I

691
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: get it originally, but like he hasn't stopped. He hasn't stopped.

692
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: And the Big twelve ad was like, yeah, it's it's

693
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: getting a little nuts, right. And this notion that the ACC, well,

694
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: if Miami makes the playoffs, the ACC makes money. They

695
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: split the revenue, right. I think they keep two shares

696
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: and they split all the other shares. Well, if Notre

697
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: name it made the playoffs, does the ACC get any money? No,

698
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: So someone sent me their schedule today. They play the

699
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: shittiest teams in the ACC. Next year they played Miami

700
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: that but that was a home at home, clearly, and

701
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: they get SMU at home. Lot of Boston colleges. It's

702
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: a lot of fight the fighting belichicks. And the other

703
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: thing is, by use a good example, they are like

704
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, you know, a religious school, a school that

705
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: takes sports very seriously, and no one even questioned, like

706
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: should they have been closer in the mix with Notre

707
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: Dame to get in the playoffs because their best win

708
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is best wins USC Right, well, bi use

709
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: the best wins Utah is a Utah's ranked tier who's

710
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: BYU second best win Arizona nine and three? Like, if

711
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: Notre Dame had that on the resume, they would never

712
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: shut up about that if they beat Utah and Arizona.

713
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: So I think, like, listen, did ESPN to play with

714
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: your emotions through the ratings because that's a big talking point,

715
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: right probably? Yeah, every time I look up the first take,

716
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: they're talking about the Cowboys. Every single at the gym

717
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: in the morning, they have it on a TV that's muted.

718
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: I would say ninety percent of the days that if

719
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: I peek up, if I'm on the CARDI equipment, it's

720
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: Steven A's face, a couple other guys faces, and the ticker.

721
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: What they're talking about is the Dallas Cowboy symbol, Jerry Jones,

722
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, you know whoever. Yeah, it's part of the business.

723
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: You're a big grant, you do big ratings. But this

724
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: notion that ESPN campaign, Well, if NBC had the playoffs.

725
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: What would they have campaign for. Of course we're all

726
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: in business with somebody like Notre Dame. You're in business

727
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: with yourself to keep all the money. So I just

728
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: think this whole thing is kind of jumped the shark.

729
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: And one thing I will be adamant about. I don't

730
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: know where you stand on this, but now playing in

731
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: the bowl games fucking embarrassment. It really is. And I

732
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect. I love Clark Lee's comments yesterday.

733
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: I didn't see them, but someone sent me that I

734
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: get start kind of reiterated something similar. But this is

735
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: a football program. So yeah, Pete Bavaqua, you're into the

736
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: business element of it all and trying to you know,

737
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: give it to you know ESPN, And you know Marcus

738
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: Freeman be like, well, the committee said we don't want

739
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: to play without our guys. It's like, well, Mark, you're

740
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: the boss. I bet guys said things to saying and

741
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: urban Meyer over the years that like, coach, we want

742
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: to do this. You know, he says no. It's like

743
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm about to have a child. He's gonna want something.

744
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: Because I was like this as well, where I'm gonna

745
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: have to say no. And I just think it's one

746
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: hundred the wrong decision to not play football. You're a

747
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: football program and you're young guys, and let's face it,

748
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if this factor didn't when they made

749
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: their immediate decision, but I would imagine a large percentage

750
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: of BYU's team does not drink so at a bowl game.

751
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: Most of these college football programs, if they're not in

752
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: the playoff, are gonna be partying, especially the first three

753
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: or four days. It's a big advantage for BYU. They're

754
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: gonna take that game very seriously. And if you're Jeremiah

755
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: Love and all these guys clearly wouldn't play, and you're

756
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: playing random guys that just haven't played that much, you

757
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: would be It might not maybe look like Colorado, because

758
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: I would imagine Notre Dame has better backups, but you

759
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: could lose fifteen points pretty easily, right. Yeah.

760
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: I saw the list of guys that would have opted out,

761
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: either opted out or injury.

762
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: It was like twenty eight guys.

763
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: Obviously, Jeneri On Price, who was the second running back,

764
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: looks like he's gonna go to the NFL Draft because

765
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: of that running back class outside of Jeremiah Love, he

766
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 2: might be the second running back off, so you dock

767
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: those two guys, then you have some receivers. But it's

768
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: like Notre Dame guy. Everyone does it. Everyone deals with

769
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: opt outs, everyone deals with injuries. And to your point,

770
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: like why not play those second string guys and kind

771
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: of like hey, like show the committee what you have

772
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: for next year, Like twenty twenty six, you get a

773
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: young quarterback, it was his first year. Like, I just

774
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think initially I was on

775
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: the side of emotional decision.

776
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: You're bummed out, which I can't.

777
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: Believe they didn't have a plan B of might be

778
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: the chance that we don't make the playoff.

779
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: We're independent.

780
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: If we take Alabama out, it's gonna ruin conference championship

781
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: games you talk to the other day.

782
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: SEC championships are like the super Bowl.

783
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 2: In the South. So we take them out, that's gone.

784
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: We take Miami out, and I know Notre Name fans

785
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: and Notre Name is pissed because the ACC network they

786
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: played Miami Notre Dame for like eight straight hours just

787
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: to rerun over and over again on Friday and Saturday.

788
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: They beat you and it was week one.

789
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 2: Maybe you got to reschedule, like come back and say, hey,

790
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: we got to schedule A and M mid season. We

791
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: can't have it back to back weeks and have our

792
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: schedule look like this, And then you even talked about

793
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: next year, their schedule looks worse, like do they have

794
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: to go to agreement with the ACC and want better

795
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: opponents in the AEC and citizen them saying hey let's

796
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: grab Boston College, Syracuse to North Carolina And I told

797
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: you that point, You're like, well, Jackson, Notre Dame wants

798
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: to play those teams. So I think like they have

799
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: to have to come up with some kind of like

800
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: method or and in fairness, beside Miami this year or

801
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 2: anyone that they would have played in the SEC is

802
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: not that great. Yeah, yeah, because I mean as of

803
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 2: right now, ten and two didn't get you in eleven

804
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: and one North Northern Illinois, your lost got you in

805
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: now the exception next year and what we can talk

806
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: about this too about are they going to expand? Like

807
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: should Notre Dame be independent? Where the playoffs going right now?

808
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: I don't really think Notre Dame has to join a conference.

809
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: I think they could continue to be independent because it

810
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: looks like it's going to go to sixteen. Maybe they

811
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: try to go reach out to a Big twelve or

812
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: a Big ten if they are so mad at the

813
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: ACC and not have that partnership. But I mean, what

814
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: are your thoughts about that independency, Because then there's another

815
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: rule too that next year if they are they do

816
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: go twelve teams, that if they're ranked in the top twelve,

817
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 2: they're automatically in. And it's like a wrinkle that a

818
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: lot of cool schools are like, WHOA, I didn't know

819
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: they signed it, but it was agreed on when they

820
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: expanded it to twelve teams.

821
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: I'd be said, if there's not sixteen teams next.

822
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: Year, it feels like it's going that way. Yeah, it

823
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: feels like it is a couple.

824
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: Of things that from the Notre Dame standpoint, because I

825
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: had someone DM and me we post a social video.

826
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: It's like, you're just reiterating all the same points. I

827
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: thought you were better than that. It's like, well, I

828
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: agree with a lot of these people what they're saying.

829
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, like Notre we helped save the ACC. Yeah,

830
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: but you're not in their conference. They have an agreement

831
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: with you, right. It's like if I have a business partner,

832
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: and we do business with a third guy, but he's

833
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: not a partner in what we're doing. I am going

834
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: to take I am going to be more loyal and

835
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: focus more on this guy. If push comes to shove,

836
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: then the third guy, Notre Dame, you would not have

837
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: shared your revenue if you got it. It was lucrative

838
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: for Miami to make it. And again they beat you.

839
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: So I think we if it was flip flopped, no

840
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: one would even argue this Notre Dame would be in

841
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: if Notre Dame would have won that game, right if

842
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: it was just flipped and they had the same record.

843
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: But I also seen that, like the ACC was short

844
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: sighted because big picture, you want to keep Notre Dame

845
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: very involved. And I'm not disagree with the ACC is

846
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: not going to exist from a football standpoint in the

847
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: next ten years. We've already seen their top dogs desperately

848
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: wanted out. And let's be real, why would Notre Dame

849
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: do a deal with the ACC and not the SEC

850
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: or not the Big ten because would those teams turn

851
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: them down? Of course not right that they would want to,

852
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, get in business with it's easier, it's easier

853
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: the ACC. No one would even argue is the easiest

854
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: of the four. Imagine if like, well, we got we

855
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: got you know, Utah and BYU this year, their schedule

856
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 1: would look a lot better than if it was Utah

857
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: BYU K State. Honestly, they're planning the Big twelve teams,

858
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: it would legitimately look better. But obviously there are a

859
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: lot of financial decisions for Notre Dames that they are

860
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: a cash cow, and I think it's inevitable where we're

861
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: going is like a two tiered system where the non

862
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: power four kind of plays themselves, but the top is

863
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: just going to be like kind of the North versus

864
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: South in however, you know, La is definitely the South,

865
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: but it's going to be involved with the Big ten,

866
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: and then from Texas over to Florida with the Carolinas

867
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: will include whoever the best you know, ACC teams are

868
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: and that's what's inevitably going to happen, and then everyone

869
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: will in a weird way kind of be independent or

870
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: part of your conference that it is like the NFC

871
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: or AFC, but Notre Dame kind of put themselves in

872
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: this predicament doing with it because they don't do it

873
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: in basketball, right, Basketball is in the ACC. And if

874
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: this wasn't the same thing, if their basketball team was

875
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: like on the fence for the NCAA tournament, the ACC

876
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: would have gladly supported them, right because they're in business

877
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: with them, like full business, not like a little side

878
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: scheduling agreement. Right. So, I I don't know. I just

879
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: think the ad like one people don't respect administrators just

880
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: in general, Like I would imagine the casual fan thinks

881
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: most of these ads and presidents when it comes to

882
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: like the football thing, it's like, you guys get destroyed.

883
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 1: It's a talking point. Jimmy Sexton works these guys. Yeah,

884
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: so it's like Pete Bleavaqua. I get it. You were

885
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: ran NBC for a decade, like no one gives a shit,

886
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: bro Like no one cares. And if I'd be like

887
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: if Marcus had consistently done this, but he wouldn't because

888
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: he knows he would look bad and kind of look

889
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: like a puss. And I think if you just went,

890
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: let's just pick like five of the top coaches in

891
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: the country, Kirby, Ryan Day, Dan Lanning, he just kind

892
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: of went around. Hell, I even Lane, do you think

893
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: any of these people would not play a Bowl game?

894
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: I think you would get skewered in the in the

895
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: SEC if you were an incumbent coach. I give you

896
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: a I understand if you're coaching staff's leading new coaches

897
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: coming in. It's a lot going on. But like just

898
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: Kirby smart Ha got nine and three and missed or

899
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: Sarky got nine and three and missed and just quit.

900
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: I think people are like, what are we doing? But

901
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: he wouldn't because he knows like it's a big deal

902
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: to play another game. But they think like ESPN screwing

903
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: them or something. I don't know, I mean, and I

904
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: get how you think that, but it's just exhausting.

905
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: To your point about Dan Lanning a couple of years

906
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: ago when when they lost the PAC twelve Championship to Washington,

907
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: they played in the festival against Liberty. So how do

908
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: you even get your team ramped up for fifteen practices

909
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: when you're gonna when you're gonna smack Liberty. So like,

910
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: day's your point about the credit, Like these guys want

911
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: to continue to play games. I think the future of

912
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: Bowl games is definitely going downhill, but I do love

913
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: that some teams are still wanting to play. Some teams

914
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 2: still want to be around their guys, and it's unfortunate

915
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: for Notre Dame. To your point about You've met a

916
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: good point earlier about the SEC when they played Arkansas

917
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: ten am game one of the more viewed games, and

918
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: at the time, I know Arkansas is not great, but

919
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: like it was viewed as I mean, you USC pit

920
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: Arkansas is probably like their third best win because it's Arkansas,

921
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: it's SEC. They do play some teams tough, so it

922
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: gets kind of respected. But for Notre Dame and their

923
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: independency moving forward, like their schedule is horrible, They're going

924
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: to have to hope for the next coming years that

925
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: North Carolina has a good season. That's somehow Syracuse are

926
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: all these other opponents that are good, so they get

927
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: a ranked win. Because last year was the same sequence

928
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: where they lost to NIU and then maybe becomes ranked,

929
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: Army becomes ranked. I don't know if that ultimately helped

930
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 2: them go through because I think it was pretty evident

931
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: that even though they lot that game to NIU, the

932
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: A and M win, they looked like one of the

933
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: top twelve team was kind of an easier run for

934
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: them to get in versus the tenant two.

935
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: I would say most years, though ten and two Notre

936
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: Dames a lock. It was a very unique circumstances with

937
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: the two and I And again I haven't watched everything

938
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: people Vaka has said, but it's so much time about

939
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: the ACC in Miami. He should be abliterating Tu Lane

940
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: in Jam you obliterating that scenario. And he's spending so

941
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: much time on I mean, a partner of his and

942
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: I've never heard him mention those two teams he he.

943
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: If I was him, I would come out and say,

944
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: it is an embarrassment that these programs are top programs

945
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: in the country, including ourselves, make all the money for everybody,

946
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: and we're letting these two guys in, even even if

947
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna let one but two of them. And he's

948
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: spending so much time about a CC. And that's why

949
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: I think the big uh I forget the big twelve

950
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: commissioner's name, but he was like, it's your mark, your mark,

951
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: just let's stop. I would have more respect if he

952
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: just constantly crushed the little guy. But he's just spending

953
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: so much time on Miami. And it's not even Miami.

954
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: It's this the ACC, which again they wouldn't profit if

955
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,479
Speaker 1: you got in and Miami got left out.

956
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: I would have been more mad of the fact that

957
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: Miami didn't make the a SEC Championship game and somehow

958
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 2: Duke got in, because that screwed That screwed you from

959
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 2: the minute that that was gonna end up happening. If

960
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: Miami goes to the AC championship game, they win the conference,

961
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: you're both in. So I don't know how the hell

962
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: that the seven and five duke with all the tie breakers,

963
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: and I get it most of those losses were out

964
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: of conference, but I think that I would be more

965
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: pissed about than the whole social media thing, like you

966
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: imagine the AEC posting Notre Dame. Everyone's been like huh like,

967
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: and this.

968
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: Really bothers me because we're in the business of the

969
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: internet business. I've been social media, I guess has been

970
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: a huge part of my career indirectly. But I would

971
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: also say that, like, especially in twenty twenty five, it

972
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: doesn't if you're getting caught up scrolling comments, especially negative comments,

973
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: you're wasting your time. It is not the real world.

974
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: People talk on social media unlike they would talk in

975
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: real life unless you're a puff Daddy puff or excuse me,

976
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: fifty cent fifty cent lives like people talk on social media,

977
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: but he's actually does it in real life and smiles

978
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: about it. But most people, like I think most people

979
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: that are really angry or post crazy stuff about it.

980
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: You go sports, you go politics. If you just met

981
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: him in real life, probably like us. I mean, obviously

982
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: there are some nut jobs, but the overwhelming majority of people,

983
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: because I would probably be like this too if I

984
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: just sold insurance, if I just sold insurance and love football,

985
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: I would. I might have a fake name on my

986
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: Twitter account and I would just be blasting people left

987
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: and right. It's like it's funny, Like I don't even

988
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 1: I think that happens a lot too. And this guy's

989
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: like everything I've seen on social media is like, bro,

990
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: you sound like a fucking late guy, a guy in

991
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: his fifties who doesn't understand none of that matters. Now,

992
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: if you want to point specifically to people on the

993
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: panel at ESPN that you think are taking money out

994
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: of the table, whatever, Okay, that might have some valley.

995
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 1: I will listen to that. But once you start bringing

996
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: up social media as someone that lives in that world,

997
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm out, like you're an idiot and I think that's like,

998
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: come on, man, and maybe sticking up for his players

999
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: because they kind of see it a lot. But I

1000
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: think that that's embarrassing. I mean, it really is. I

1001
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 1: also just get back to I just can't imagine many

1002
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: coaches not like I just think it was a moment

1003
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: for Marcus Freeman to be like, we're playing. If you

1004
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: don't want to play, your injured or opt out obviously,

1005
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: but cool, but we're playing in a game and we're

1006
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: gonna practice and we're gonna run this program. And they didn't.

1007
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: And I just think it's I think it's an embarrassment.

1008
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: I really do, not playing the game because you're a

1009
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: football program. Okay, people, Vaka was getting bad at it,

1010
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: that's his problem. But if you're Marcus, like you're not

1011
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: caught up in that. You're also in the recruiting business.

1012
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: It's more you're just you're just gone now till what

1013
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: August thirty. First.

1014
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: I don't even think it's good for the fans to

1015
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: even the donors, like I get like the pops were like,

1016
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: oh like this the Pop Tart Bowl, which out of

1017
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: all the ball games, I think the Pop tar Bull

1018
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: is pretty entertaining. It sucks that they didn't make the playoffs,

1019
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: But to your point, yeah.

1020
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: It's it's two of the best teams in the country, right.

1021
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're on ABC on the whole agreement with

1022
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 2: the AC network and stuff like that probably led.

1023
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: To it's just an overall and emotion. Is that part

1024
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: of it? It's the ACC team. Yeah, I mean it's

1025
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: technically Notre Dame is like the best representative from the

1026
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: AC is Like, did Virginia take their spot? It was

1027
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech.

1028
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 3: So Georgia it's a feeder for Okay, so they so

1029
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 3: that's why they're I kind of got I didn't quite

1030
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: okay that even it's like too caught up in all

1031
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 3: this BS and if I'm Mark, I'm not.

1032
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: Cut up in any of that. And I tell the AD,

1033
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: I get why you're mad, but no, we're playing because

1034
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: by you had nothing to do with that, because you

1035
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: got to like hobnob with some a SEC representatives at

1036
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: the function, which you do. I mean, but I don't know,

1037
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: just a weird situation.

1038
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: The next one we talk playoff, we talk at expansion

1039
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: them a little bit. Do you think sixteen teams will

1040
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: solve the issues?

1041
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: How do they fix the CFP.

1042
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: It seems like an argument every year, and you know,

1043
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 2: we're here again, a new second year of the twelve

1044
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: team already talking about sixteen teams. I think we're pretty

1045
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 2: we both agree that it's gonna happen. It seems like

1046
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: it is, especially when they postpone. The decision is gonna

1047
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: be I think late January instead of it supposed to

1048
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 2: be December. I'm for it more football, but obviously if

1049
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: you get to sixteen, it feels like we're gonna have

1050
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 2: more problems somehow.

1051
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: Isn't that what D one double A is. They're twenty four.

1052
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: That feels like a lot. Twenty four is a little

1053
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: too much. Yeah, twenty four is a lot because you

1054
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: get double buys and that sometimes too right.

1055
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like eight teams get buys.

1056
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I twenty four feels extreme. Sixteen probably feels

1057
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: just right. I also think you kick out the non

1058
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: Power four teams and the conference championship games turn into

1059
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: playing games for the four conferences, so you can still

1060
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: do you know, basically a conference champion is crowned in

1061
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: the regular season. Problem is you'd have to do some splits,

1062
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: probably right, because the conference is so big, you don't

1063
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: play everybody. If I finished eleven and one, do you

1064
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: finished eleven to one, or like ohiuse State Indiana, they

1065
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: would have co split it, which I think used to

1066
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: happen to a lot of smaller conferences because like the

1067
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: Whack and Mount, some of these conferences ten years ago

1068
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: didn't have conference championship games. They've really been added for

1069
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: ESPN right or Fox because it's television, which is cool.

1070
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: PAC twelve forever did not have a conference championship game.

1071
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, I think where we're headed is

1072
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: some playing elements which actually would feel a little bit bigger.

1073
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Notre Dame or

1074
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: excuse me, not Notre Dame Ohio State, but I don't

1075
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: disrespect them. I enjoy it. I enjoy watching their team

1076
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: play in Indiana. Neither of them needed to play right,

1077
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: neither of them needed to try hard, and they played

1078
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: that game really really, they played that game like it

1079
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: was a play in. Ryan Day definitely did win and

1080
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: kick the field goal. He's just trying to keep his

1081
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: head above water. But I do think that some of

1082
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: these games lose a little luster where if you're like, hey,

1083
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: it's Utah and Arizona winners into the playoffs for the

1084
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: thirteen fifte you know, fourteen, fifteen and sixteen. It's like

1085
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: Texas Vanderbilt winners in Oh this year the Big Ten

1086
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: would be a little hard like USC vers who Iowa

1087
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: or something like that. But I think that's where we're

1088
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: inevitably headed. I'd be stunned in twenty twenty six, there's

1089
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: not dramatic changes. And the committee, you know, Mike Lombardi,

1090
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a great college GM clearly

1091
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: kind of struggling, but always had a great line on

1092
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: this podcast that they've never built a monument for a committee.

1093
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,959
Speaker 1: And I do think the committee you got to find

1094
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: a way to like get out of this world, you know,

1095
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: all these other sports, like no one tells you who's

1096
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: in the Major League Baseball playoffs. The records do same

1097
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: thing with football, and if they can get away from

1098
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: this group of however many individuals in this room. And

1099
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: then Hunter your check and I know he was kind

1100
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: of put in last because the Baylor guy like attacked

1101
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: a player or something. Well was that story that was weird? Now? Yeah,

1102
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: so it's he's not answering questions, it's just kind of weird,

1103
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 1: Like you just need to get away from the imagine

1104
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: if we had that in the NFL, right, a committee

1105
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: and I just think people, I get it's television show,

1106
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: but you just got to get away from just subjectivity.

1107
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: But you'd argue that the history of college football has

1108
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: always been people picking Forever. It was like someone just

1109
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: voted on who was the national championship. I mean that

1110
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: changed in my lifetime. And then they've gone to four teams.

1111
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: What was that like twelve years ago?

1112
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: It would be weird if they had the conference playing games.

1113
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 2: Would you just judge your conference champion on the or

1114
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 2: a seasonal where they leave.

1115
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. We like that way. While State

1116
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: Indiana would be split it you wouldn't play the game

1117
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: because they would say yeah. But then you get subjectivity

1118
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: over if there are five teams for four buys, maybe

1119
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: you get more buys. I don't know. Again, it just

1120
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: becomes it's always people voting on this. So I just

1121
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: have it happened on the field. The thing with the

1122
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: conference championship games, if you go to sixteen, like both

1123
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: teams are always going to be in, so it's like,

1124
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: what are you playing this for? Right?

1125
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're looking at Oregon this year, they're probably

1126
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 2: glad they're not even in the championship game because their

1127
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 2: run looks a lot better versus Ohio State or even Indiana,

1128
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: Like you gotta play Madison and you got to play

1129
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: Texas Tech, and then you got an Indiana team that

1130
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: could be banged up against Oklahoma or Alabama coming off

1131
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: a three week by Like that's what's interesting too about

1132
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: this is last year we had the straights, no straight seating.

1133
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: Was the conference champions This year a straight seeding, so weird.

1134
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: I think the problem could be in one of these

1135
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: conference championship games if you're in a situation like Georgia

1136
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: or Alabama or Ohio State, Indiana where they're vote. You know,

1137
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: Alabama was knew they were in, they were tending to

1138
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: they were not going to kick a team out in

1139
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: the conference championship game, especially in the SEC. What if

1140
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: they had a bunch of injuries and they're like, we're

1141
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: better off not playing this game. Giving these guys a

1142
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and a team just doesn't play. They're like,

1143
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: we're just not playing because we know we're gonna play

1144
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: here in fifteen days. We don't want to risk more

1145
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: injuries and we need like a bye week right now.

1146
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: And that to me is you would know if it's

1147
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt Texas, you would never Obviously they're both going to

1148
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: play because they're going to try to get the fourteenth seed.

1149
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: Now you could argue both those teams will to be

1150
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: in in this scenario. But again, it's complicated. But this

1151
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: whole college football is always really complicated with this where

1152
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: the NFL is like, I don't know how it feels

1153
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: so much easier they expand the playoff and its just

1154
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: like no one even complains. It's like you're just you

1155
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: know when you're in, you know when you're out.

1156
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always I don't know if it's because we're

1157
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 2: I'm oldie in the sport and obviously been falling college

1158
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: fotball for a while. I still think it's a big

1159
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: deal to win your conference, but I know it's not

1160
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: a big deal in terms of the playoffs.

1161
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: It's not anymore. Though, It's not anymore like Oregon didn't

1162
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: win their conference. They did last year, and I mean

1163
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: it feels like, I mean, it would be one of

1164
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: the biggest upsets in the history of college football. They're almost

1165
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: guaranteed to be in the exact same spot with actually

1166
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: an easier route this year than they were last year. Like,

1167
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: what did they get out? Now? They got to say

1168
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: they're Big ten champs, And there's some like that Indiana

1169
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: game mental lot to Indiana because they've i mean essentially

1170
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: never been in Big ten champs right back in football.

1171
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: But I don't know if winning the conference championship game

1172
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: with the playoffs has the same you know, validity. Like

1173
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State Michigan, it was really important for Ryan Day

1174
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: to win the Michigan game. It was much more important

1175
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: in a weird way for him to win that Michigan

1176
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: game this year. Like if you could choose, would you

1177
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: have rather would they have still been into the championship game.

1178
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they would have been if they would

1179
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: have lost to Michigan, because Oregon would have been in. Yeah, right,

1180
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: But let's just say hypothetically he still would have been

1181
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: in if he if he could lose one of those games,

1182
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: He's picking the Indiana game and win the Michigan game. Right.

1183
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: So It's that's the thing with college football. It's like

1184
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: some games just matter more.

1185
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: It's like even camen of boards who with the Iron

1186
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: Bowl rivalry games feel like it means more than the

1187
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: commerce championships. It's just I wonder if the commissioner is, like,

1188
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: if you're Greg SANKI, could you fully buy in of

1189
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: removing the SEC Championship or PU Teddy removing the Big

1190
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: Ten Championship and having those as playing games. Would you

1191
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: still have the same show up? Would it still have

1192
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 2: the same raining. I know would have the intensity and

1193
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: the importance of a playoff game. But I just wonder

1194
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: if those commissioners, like would would they fully buy in, like, Hey,

1195
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna leave the championship games. We're going

1196
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 2: to play playing games. We're just gonna see how that goes.

1197
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: Does not agree like Texas Vanderbilt or one of these

1198
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 2: playing games, because I wouldn't.

1199
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: Wouldn't the playing games.

1200
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: They'll go through the playoff versus the individual conferences or

1201
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: with the conferences I guess have their own playing games.

1202
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe that's I don't confusing. I'm not

1203
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: Josh paid. I don't want to be the commissioner here.

1204
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: The problem is you have all these different entities. Everyone

1205
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: has different ideas. Some of these entities are in business

1206
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: with once in NBC, in peacock, someone in Fox, someonere

1207
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: with ESPN. You got you got too many hands in

1208
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: the cookie jar, and no one's rolling in the same

1209
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: direction beside the conferences look after their own as they should.

1210
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: That leads us to the next question. Biggest problem in

1211
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: college football is it the calendar, the playoff, or no leadership.

1212
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 2: It feels like and I saw Kirk Kirby Street and

1213
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: Joey Gallwa have a podcast NonStop or whatever they have

1214
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 2: Mario Crista Ballan and they asked him, They said, you know,

1215
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: if we want to adjust the playoff or adjust the calendar,

1216
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: That's what they said.

1217
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: The calendar, who do we talk to?

1218
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 2: And Mario is like in his head, like I don't know,

1219
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: inca blade, they don't do anything.

1220
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: My question is when they say the calendar in the NFL,

1221
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: they can create their own calendar because there is no

1222
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: go to school. There is no academia. There's just football.

1223
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: There's no student athlete or athlete student. You're just football

1224
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: football football, right, you do as of now connected to

1225
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: the university, right, and your kids in theory go to school,

1226
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: so you're based on the academic calendar. So I think

1227
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: changing the calendar around. What does that even mean, like

1228
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: move the portal till the spring or something. Okay, but

1229
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: they moved the portal last year right back a little bit.

1230
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: But you can't have the portal in like February because

1231
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: school's already started. Yeah. Now, one thing that's clear is

1232
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: there are zero requirements as an athlete to transfer. I

1233
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: could have a zero point zero at my school and

1234
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: if Vanderbilt wants me, I go to Vanderbilt, which didn't

1235
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: used to be the case. So you could argue none

1236
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: of that actually matters, and you can put it wherever

1237
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: it's like. So what he shows up in the middle

1238
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: of the semester. Who cares? So I because no one

1239
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: wants to get it sued. So yeah, I mean there's

1240
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: no individual to do that. They're not all under the

1241
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: same umbrella, right. That's the thing with the NFL, like

1242
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: everyone Roger Goodell, all the owners are all under the

1243
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: same umbrella. Like the ACC and the Big Ten have

1244
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: different views on things. So that's where it gets really complicated.

1245
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't have a good answer. I don't think there's

1246
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: a great solution until they all get into business together

1247
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: and pool their money. But that's where it gets difficult

1248
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: because this is what Notre Dame's argument is. We're bigger

1249
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:50,479
Speaker 1: than basically every school beside a handful, so why would

1250
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: we ever split revenue with the shitty programs. It's like

1251
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: Ohio State's like, do you know how much bigger we

1252
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: are than every university from a football standpoint in this conference?

1253
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 1: Besides maybe like three? Like why are we giving money

1254
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: to Maryland and Rutgers with in Alabama? Who's the highest

1255
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: rated team in the SEC? I saw stat like they

1256
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: have to give money spread money to Mississippi State. But

1257
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: that's part of the deal. Like that's the strength of

1258
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: the NFL. Jerry and the forty nine ers and the Packers,

1259
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,919
Speaker 1: like they are more important at the television revenue which

1260
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: pays for everything than your Cardinals. But the Cardinals get

1261
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: the same amount of money as the Philadelphia Eagles. That's

1262
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: the power of the business, the unity and everyone gets

1263
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 1: super rich. But that's the problem in college football. People

1264
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: kind of want to hoard and not everyone's It's just

1265
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: it becomes very common. Why because you have more and

1266
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: more people. The NFL only has thirty two teams. I mean,

1267
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: how many teams are there in the Power four? Right?

1268
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: There's eighteen teams in the Big ten. There's how many

1269
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: teams in the SEC sixteen or eighteen? So I mean, boom,

1270
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: you're already way past the NFL on the two conferences alone.

1271
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: The accs expanded because they've added cal Stanford, SMU all

1272
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: these programs, and now it's like some of these deals,

1273
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: like I don't think Allen Stanford get the normal slice

1274
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: of the pie, just like Oregon and Washington don't get

1275
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: the same amount of money as UFC and UCLA and

1276
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 1: the Big time. I think they get a half share.

1277
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: For Oregon, it doesn't necessarily matter. I think for Washington

1278
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: you probably like a little more cash. But they didn't

1279
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: have a choice because the back twelve die. That's the

1280
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: thing is just always it's just so fluid, Like there's

1281
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: nothing fluid in the NFL. Yeah, I mean it might

1282
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: be fluid who wins and who loses on a given year,

1283
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: But like in terms of the business model, the business

1284
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: model is always changing because there's more and more money

1285
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: and everyone wants their hand in the cookie jar.

1286
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 2: The only thing with the calendar is you would I mean,

1287
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 2: they want to expand a sixteen plant.

1288
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: We already have a twelve team playoff.

1289
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: I think the championship games like January twentieth or something. Yeah,

1290
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: the game like if we're gonna go yeah, if we're

1291
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: gonna go sixteen, I feel like you gotta even take

1292
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 2: out two regular season games. You take out those Grambling States,

1293
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: Bowling Greens, whatever, or start the season earlier if you

1294
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: want to have it on January first, with the portal

1295
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: ending up on January. I liked that the portals in January.

1296
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: And I know people are all, you know, into the playoffs,

1297
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 2: like why is it January second through through the sixteenth, Like,

1298
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: I feel like you're gonna have less opt outs, especially

1299
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 2: with the five day window they have after they get

1300
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 2: eliminated sent into the portal. And I don't think school

1301
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: starts until late January, mid January anyways, So that's fine

1302
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 2: with that, but well.

1303
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: Use let's useuse school Montana the one double A playoffs.

1304
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: They don't have conference championship games, right, so they just

1305
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: end the season and then the next week the playoffs

1306
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: essentially start for the teams they don't have to buy

1307
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: I think you could do some version of that just

1308
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: that week. It's the playoffs aren't as big, so you

1309
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: just have the play in version or the conference championship

1310
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: games and then just immediately start playing. Look at the

1311
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: NFL season ends, you start playing, you know there's just

1312
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: there's this lag. And that's because are there bowl games

1313
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: this weekend?

1314
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: Boise State Washington on Saturday.

1315
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: See, so ESPN they have some inventory, right, so they

1316
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: they they're like, what I don't want to waste this weekend.

1317
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: We can do something else and then you know, kind

1318
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: of do a build up. But I think you just

1319
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: have to kind of approach it more like football, if

1320
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: like every seven eight days you're playing a game.

1321
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 2: Speaking of the playoff bracket, look ahead at the matchups.

1322
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: This week we don't got anything, but next week we do.

1323
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: And then we got three plus weeks until the big

1324
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: boys Georgia, Indiana, Ohio State, Texas Tech all play. I

1325
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 2: guess we could start with just the first round matchups.

1326
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: Oklahoma Alabama feels like a rematch from what we had

1327
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: earlier on feels like two teams that both offense has

1328
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 2: been struggling really bad. Like this game to me just

1329
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: feels like a game that which quarterback do you trust more?

1330
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: All defense?

1331
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: Like which team can reach seventeen points that game alongside

1332
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: text saying and in Miami are basically the only ones

1333
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: because Tulane. I mean, I don't know if they have

1334
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: a shot against Old Miss at James Madison, but any

1335
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 2: intriguing first round matchups that look ahead wise, I don't

1336
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: know any of those teams that could make a run where.

1337
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: You're well, two games do not. I mean the Oregon game,

1338
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: they're going to murder them if they try at night.

1339
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: Like you said, you that Liberty game, and is Liberty

1340
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: was a better team than jmu right, the Hugh Freeze

1341
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: Liberty team was pretty good.

1342
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 2: I think so.

1343
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I'd be lying if I watched a

1344
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: much of either. But I just remember that Liberty team

1345
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: when he was in the press box on the hospital bed,

1346
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: like they were legitimate, like they were pretty, they were dominant,

1347
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: you know, given their competition. I'd be stunned if that

1348
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: game is not like fifteen to fifteen or something. The

1349
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: Old Miss game is somewhat intriguing just because like their

1350
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: coach is gone. They got these guys coming back, though,

1351
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: how are they they've already played? I mean the game

1352
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: was forty five to ten, like they did play forty

1353
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: five to ten, and it's not like the other coach.

1354
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: I think I even saw quote he's got two phones,

1355
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: like he's got a lot going on, like his let's

1356
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,919
Speaker 1: face it, like he gets blown out in this game,

1357
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: no sweat off his back. He's at Gainesville the next day.

1358
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: The other two games are pretty good. The other two games.

1359
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: It kind of sucks it's a rematch. But you know,

1360
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: I think we've seen de Boor. We've actually never seen

1361
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: him since he became famous. In this scenario. His team's

1362
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: not playing well. They they didn't rush the ball at

1363
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: Washington when he was there. Now, granted they had three

1364
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: NFL receivers. He's just slunging around kind of like he's

1365
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: doing now, but they have no rushing game in Alabama,

1366
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: which is kind of weird. I mean that program, to me,

1367
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: I would say a huge defining moment of Saban's teams.

1368
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: When you think Nick Saban, I know it became more

1369
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: of a passing at offense, but you thought defense and

1370
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: running the ball. Derrick Henry. I mean, when you just

1371
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: look up how many of their running backs are all

1372
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: over the NFL. You know, Josh Jacobs, mark Ingram's on

1373
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: TV won the Heisman Trophy. I mean, they just they

1374
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: just had Domina dom. They had running back rooms where

1375
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara was like, I need to transfer. I get it,

1376
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: don't get time, right, So I just think Jamiir Gibbs

1377
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,759
Speaker 1: transferred that I just pulled up their staffs page.

1378
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 2: Jam Miller's hurt, right, Yeah, he might be back, but

1379
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 2: again it's.

1380
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: But like he had he has five hundred yards. The

1381
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: other two guys like they just they just can't run

1382
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: on the ball. So I don't know. And ty Simpson

1383
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: doesn't look that great right now. So Oklahoma, their defense

1384
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: is incredible, which is crazy because all of my life

1385
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: it was like an incredible offense. Maybe that like ninety

1386
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: or two thousand Bob Stoops team, but most of like

1387
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: when they became a really big deal under Stoops and

1388
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: the Lincoln Riley all offense. I mean, I was trying

1389
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: to explain to my wife because she's like, oh, where

1390
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: did you get his nickname Hollywood? And I was like, well,

1391
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 1: I think he grew up there, and then Gus Johns

1392
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: started calling him that. But he also played on He

1393
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: played with Ceedee Lamb and Mark Andrews and Joe Mixon

1394
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: and Samaji p Ryan and Orlando Brown and Baker Mayfield.

1395
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: I mean, their teams were incredible, but their defense sucked.

1396
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: It was like Kenneth Murray's okay. Now it's like their

1397
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: defense is picking dudes off the pass rush. Incredible. Well,

1398
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: prett Vnables, that's his baby, and he learned to Clemson

1399
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: how to recruit those guys. But their offense matereer. Ever

1400
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: since he hurt his hand, they've looked terrible. Now. I

1401
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: was also thinking maybe, I mean in his hand, I

1402
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: mean broke us through. This isn't Herbert or Aaron Rodgers.

1403
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: This was his throwing hand, so it has to impact

1404
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: him a little bit. I mean the Texas game when

1405
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 1: he came back, it was like, what are we doing?

1406
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: But it never really got that much better. You do

1407
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: wonder if the long layoff, right, they don't playing in

1408
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game, could he look better because early

1409
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: in the season he did look pretty good. Uh, I

1410
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I think Oklahoma, if their offense

1411
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: is just okay, which it has not been, they could

1412
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: win a couple of games. They got a little like Houston.

1413
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: Now CJ. Stroud a better player than John Mattier version

1414
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: of college but kind of similar. It's like, hey, if

1415
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: your offense just can put up like seventeen to twenty.

1416
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: Same thing with bo Nicks and the Broncos, like just

1417
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: getting the playoffs just to score twenty. We're gonna be

1418
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: in good shape. Oklahoma's gonna be tough. They're gonna be

1419
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: a tough out. Whether they play Ohio State, Indiana, I

1420
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: have to pull up the bracket. But whoever they're playing,

1421
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: and I think they beat Alabama, especially at home Norman.

1422
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: That game's a night, right.

1423
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the boards had no trouble a lot of I mean,

1424
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: he's zero to two against Oklahoma in both of those games,

1425
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: where yeah, Oklahoma's offense has been great, but both those games,

1426
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's defense has led to a touchdown, which has also

1427
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: helped Oklahoma out led us some turnovers just being a

1428
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: manageable field position. They have one of the best kickers

1429
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: in the country. He's got like wears no pants. Yeah,

1430
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 2: where's basically no pants, and he can make like four

1431
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 2: field goals, which the Alabama is credit like they only

1432
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 2: have that kicker, and that's like an advantage that you know,

1433
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: Oklahoma thrives off of. I think if the one thing

1434
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: for Bama that you.

1435
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: Get, they had three turnovers in that game.

1436
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they gotta win the turnover battle. I think Oklahoma

1437
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: does thrive off of those explosives. Like the last three

1438
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: games they played in they had touchdowns of eighty two,

1439
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 2: forty five, fifty eight against MISSOO and LSU and survived

1440
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 2: off of an explosive pass play. I think that's something

1441
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: that if you're Alabama, you gotta limit if if they're

1442
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 2: you know, Oklahoma's offense doesn't really good at running the football,

1443
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 2: but Alabama's offense is just I mean from where they

1444
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 2: were at the beginning, that whole gollet they went through,

1445
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 2: going on the road of being Georgia, Lazoo, Tennessee, Vannerbilt,

1446
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 2: and then you just at the end of the season,

1447
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 2: no November, they just spend absolutely nothing. You don't know

1448
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: where Ryan Williams is. He's dropping balls up right like

1449
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 2: the quick game. He's got no he's got awful hands.

1450
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: He's a receiver who's extremely skilled, who has terrible ball skills.

1451
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 2: Like to me, there are gonna be a lot of

1452
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 2: NFL teams. If you can't catch as a wide receiver,

1453
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 2: you're an undraftable player.

1454
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean that ball that he high pointed for a

1455
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: god I mean, he was compared to Jeremiah Smith was

1456
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: obviously insane. But even if he's just a good player,

1457
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: like that's a pretty it's crazy to say, but kind

1458
01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: of a routine catch. It went right through his hands.

1459
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: M hm, He's not right. He's like their third best

1460
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: wide receiver. If that.

1461
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 2: It's it's it's sad as drop off. But to to

1462
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: I mean it was credit. Jeremy Bernard has been stepping

1463
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 2: up by Isaiah Horton.

1464
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: You're right.

1465
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 2: I think it's just a Duboro is gonna walk into

1466
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 2: a trap. And I think that Venables team figure out

1467
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 2: something offensively and that defense with r Mason Thomas, just

1468
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: the pass rush, like that offensive line of Alabama's been

1469
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 2: struggling like that. I mean they got bullied against Georgia

1470
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: with a three or four men in front of the

1471
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 2: entire game.

1472
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they got and they got worked in that

1473
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: That was that was a Saban like performance against Alabama

1474
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: where it's like we're gonna physically punk you and kind

1475
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 1: of set and like dance on your graves a little bit.

1476
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: I can think for Alabama fans they go, is our

1477
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 1: coach kind of a puss? Like where's our toughness and

1478
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 1: like you know, for he's a former offensive lineman, he's

1479
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 1: like a passing game guru. You know That's that's Ryan

1480
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: Grebb got fired in Seattle. Didn't run the ball. The

1481
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: reason they've hired the Kubiak kid. It's like he's a

1482
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: run game. They want a physical Dubor wants to pass

1483
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: like fifty times a game. I this this game. I've

1484
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: always been a fan. I mean, part of it has

1485
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: been fallowing his career since Present State, But like that

1486
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: style in the SEC, there's a physical nature. It's gonna

1487
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: be the question with Lane, It's like is your team

1488
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: gonna be physical enough? You're kind of doing like your

1489
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: version of this like Chip Kelly thing, which works on offense,

1490
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: but does it create a physical nature which Ole Miss

1491
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: definitely kind of didn't have because when they practice, you're

1492
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: going against this like crazy speed offense. And that's the

1493
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 1: thing with Venables, like we're running the ball, tough team.

1494
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 1: If you lose like seventeen to ten, this is just

1495
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: an ugly game. If you're Bama and you spend all

1496
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: off season of just getting physically punked by Element or

1497
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: Oklahoma twice, people are gonna want It'll be like coming

1498
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 1: into the season like we're ready to get rid of

1499
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: this guy. It's it's gonna get ugly, because again, I

1500
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,440
Speaker 1: think the one thing people respect, you know, like Alabama,

1501
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,440
Speaker 1: Ohio State, you know, LSU, like they want a physical team.

1502
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: That was the problem with Brian Kelly. It's like, bro,

1503
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: where's your run game. We should be able to run it.

1504
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: We should be able to have one of the best

1505
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: running backs in the country and run it down people's throat.

1506
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: And when you can't, I just think people hate that

1507
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: style of football. And you know, at certain programs see

1508
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: is shoe with like Lincoln Riley. It's like our team's

1509
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: kind of sophomro. You know, most of us in the

1510
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: hate day we used to be like Alabama Urban Meyer style,

1511
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: which is crushing, sending people to the hospital. And that's

1512
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: what it feels like when Kirby's right, It's like I

1513
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: would not want to be on the field with these guys.

1514
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Indiana kind of have that, like they

1515
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: are crushing people. I saw Mendoza's tell McAfee like, I

1516
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: got hit. I couldn't take a part. I got hit

1517
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: so hard I didn't see him. That's what that's what

1518
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: like the top programs. If you're you know, some of

1519
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: these programs you expected, It's like, hey, we just got

1520
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: to run and gun it. You play at Utah like

1521
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: you play Utah like some was gonna get hit hard. Bamn,

1522
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 1: No one's getting hit hard. It looks like which is crazy.

1523
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 2: Speaking of getting hit hard, Miami A and m that's

1524
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: another game where both of those teams Mario Chris Ball

1525
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 2: has done a great job offensive defensive line. It feels

1526
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 2: like in the portal they've done a lot better getting receivers.

1527
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 2: Carson Beck, I mean to this game. Offensive line, defensive line,

1528
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: both sides are pretty elite. It feels like this game

1529
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 2: is gonna come down to which quarterback doesn't turn the

1530
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 2: ball over. Yeah, Carson Beck's been turning the ball over

1531
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,799
Speaker 2: the entire year. Marcel read the last couple of games.

1532
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: That South Carolina game, he had two picks in the

1533
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: first half Texas late. You could tell his feet anytime

1534
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 2: he was getting pressure. He felt like he didn't know

1535
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: where the ball was going. This big game for Miami

1536
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: just kind of shoving a Notre dame's face and say, hey,

1537
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: we do belong home field advantage. It sucks his games

1538
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: out at night. But where do you kind of lean

1539
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 2: early thoughts about that game.

1540
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: I think the scary part from Miami because you're like,

1541
01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: if we're on, we could beat anybody. This matchup with

1542
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: Elko getting what three weeks to throw different things at

1543
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: Carson back, Like you just see some of those games

1544
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: where he's throwing to the other team, you start hitting them.

1545
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: You know they got a pass rush. It was howlf

1546
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: the dude that has like abs and can rush the

1547
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: passer like these Miles cares like what is going on here?

1548
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,560
Speaker 1: This guy is now Miami's got it two. But I

1549
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 1: don't trust either quarterback. I just trust Elko. I think

1550
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 1: if you just pulled people in college football, you just

1551
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: went pure scheme their side of the ball. Who's the

1552
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: cream of the crop, Like you know what Lane's done

1553
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: on offense with Charlie Weist, I think Elko would be

1554
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: right there handhand with like a Kirby Smart And if

1555
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: Saban was still around, it was like defensive genius. So

1556
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: you give defensive genius, you give any genius. Like more

1557
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: times like the Andy Reid thing off the buys that's

1558
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,959
Speaker 1: I lean obviously the environment, but just from a schematic

1559
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: thing even if they were on a neutral site. I

1560
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: was like, can Carson Beck It's a big moment for

1561
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 1: Carson back, Like he plays well well, you know, it's like, okay,

1562
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna get drafted again. You know, I don't know.

1563
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 1: It's not like first checond round, but he's third fourth,

1564
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,839
Speaker 1: you know type guy, you play well in this environment,

1565
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: this type of a lot of people are gonna be

1566
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: watching it for him, like, can you even be a

1567
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: backup in the NFL? Can you can you handle this?

1568
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: Because a lot of times backups, you know, Mariota's the

1569
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: I saw a club like a J McCarran. You know, guy,

1570
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: we've seen them in big moments like handle themselves. And

1571
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: we've seen Carson Beck. I Georgia turned on him. I

1572
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 1: can't imagine that program has great things to say about him.

1573
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: So this is this is a big moment for his

1574
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: football career, and I'm gonna lean I'm taking Elco here

1575
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 1: in this moment, even if I don't trust their offense,

1576
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: I just think that that place is gonna be bananas.

1577
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: That that you said that is the night, that's the

1578
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: Saturday night game.

1579
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 2: No, it's not a night. It's like eleven am. It's

1580
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 2: not that they put the night game as James Madison Oregon,

1581
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: which I don't understand how you do it.

1582
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: Because the other two games because they ESPN. Yeah I

1583
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: should Yeah, ESPN kept the two good matchups right and

1584
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: they gave tn T the matchups with the big points.

1585
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 2: At least you're going to college football playoff game James

1586
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 2: Madison Tulane.

1587
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree with everything you said.

1588
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 2: I think you know, Elko's third down defense has been

1589
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 2: something that's been given a lot of opponents trouble if

1590
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 2: you're a fan of explosive players. I think Malachi Tony

1591
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 2: from Miami where they found this guy three star freshmen,

1592
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: feels like outside of him, the running game is pretty soft.

1593
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 2: Don't really have any of the receivers outside of him.

1594
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 2: And then for Texas A and m they have some

1595
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 2: of the best backs in the country Casey conception on

1596
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 2: a Mario Kramer Like. That's one thing that Miami's been

1597
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 2: struggling at against SMU or Louisville is if you do

1598
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 2: do have those elite wide receivers and you can get

1599
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 2: him over the top, especially at home Makylea Field, it

1600
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 2: just feels like a game where Mario Christoball and Carson Beck.

1601
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 2: It just suffocates him and they just can't get out

1602
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 2: of the hole, or they kind of keep it competitive.

1603
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: Maybe they start running the ball and I don't know,

1604
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 2: maybe Carson Beck ends.

1605
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 1: Up performing Marta REI doesn't play well. If they're not

1606
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: throwing the ball like it could be, it wouldn't juck.

1607
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: He was like ten to ten game going in the

1608
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. You know the thing is I remember tweeting

1609
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: this out on that it was Friday night, like Texas

1610
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: does not or they haven't, and I don't think Oklahoma

1611
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: has either. They have not played an SEC night home game.

1612
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: And you know, one thing about Texas, I was thinking,

1613
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: like this is an electric environment. This place felt like

1614
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: a playoff game for them, because it kind of was.

1615
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a super Bowl right. That rivalry

1616
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,600
Speaker 1: had gone away for a while once A and M

1617
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 1: went to the SEC and Texas in the Big twelve.

1618
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: Now it's you know, it's alive again because they're both

1619
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: in the same conference. But that night game, that place,

1620
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: it was rocking and clearly like Texas I mean showed

1621
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 1: up to play. If that version of Texas had played

1622
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: more games, like they're not in tight games against Kentucky

1623
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: and Mississippi State, and they probably still lose Ohio State,

1624
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: but they don't lose to Florida, even though when you

1625
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: went back and looked like Arch's numbers weren't as good

1626
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 1: as the game felt when you were watching it. Part

1627
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: of it was that big touchdown, but they that game,

1628
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: they would have been hard to beat beside like a

1629
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: Georgia Ohio State. Like, I felt like they're beating most

1630
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 1: teams that night with their effort and the energy in

1631
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: the place, because again you don't see, uh, you just

1632
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 1: don't see that many night games in Austin anymore. I

1633
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: feel like they most of their night games have felt

1634
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: like the road game, right, and they play a ton

1635
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: like Kentucky like for the SEC, but there's on the road,

1636
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: and then they typically have like the noon kickoff at home.

1637
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: At least the last couple of years. I'm like, I

1638
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: want more night games of Texas. This place it's like

1639
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 1: an underrated no one talks about it. Get the SEC.

1640
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I was blown away this year Auburn had

1641
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: like seven night games. The place looks incredible. I'm like,

1642
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to play there if I was a kid,

1643
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: But I just think that night was If that game

1644
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: had been noon, I wonder if it's a different feel.

1645
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: But that thing was night Friday night holiday. People have

1646
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,759
Speaker 1: been drunk for like three straight days. Did you agree?

1647
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,799
Speaker 1: Was that environment like that was elite?

1648
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:00,839
Speaker 2: Because you're watching that game real, Like, I know Texas

1649
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 2: has three losses, but like, could they slip in?

1650
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: They look like a playoff team right now?

1651
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 2: Arc looks like what we wanted at the beginning of

1652
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 2: the season, and he's transformed and they're able to run

1653
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 2: the football. And yeah, an A and M team that

1654
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: got kind of exposed, But I think that wasn't the

1655
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 2: version of they didn't look like that the majority.

1656
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: Of the year.

1657
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 2: No, No, the crowd feeds into it and just the

1658
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: home field advantages, But yeah, I agree, do you think

1659
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean we can kind of talk broad about the

1660
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 2: playoff too.

1661
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 1: You look at a pool of who.

1662
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 2: Can actually win the national championship, it's interesting to see

1663
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 2: like those home playoff games and then you're gonna see

1664
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 2: teams in the first round.

1665
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: By that, I mean Indiana three and.

1666
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 2: A half weeks, Like how do they shape up versus

1667
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 2: an Oklahoma in Alabama that have played before Georgia last

1668
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 2: year at a first round by.

1669
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 1: They looked great.

1670
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 2: But this year they got Gunter Stockton, who's had a

1671
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 2: full season, where at that time it was weird because

1672
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 2: of the whole you know, traffic situation. The game got postponed,

1673
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: but still they look pretty flat. Then you got Ohio State,

1674
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. Texas Tech haven't really been in the limelight

1675
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 2: like that. You don't have a lot of players that

1676
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 2: have been in the playoff. Who do you your mind like,

1677
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: who do you think wins the National Championship? Do you

1678
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 2: think any of those first round I guess teams or

1679
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 2: I should say second round team first round by, Uh,

1680
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 2: get a little exposed a little bit, that's the second round.

1681
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: Well, I do think that I've heard a lot of

1682
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 1: people say that only the four by teams in Oregon

1683
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: can win the Natty, and I just to me ole

1684
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 1: Miss is a team in the first round that has

1685
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: no chance to win it. They don't have a good

1686
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: enough defense. But I do believe that Oklahoma could beat anybody.

1687
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: When you play great defense, you could just win an

1688
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: individual game. Now, can they win fourser games? Probably not?

1689
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: But Matier got a couple of million dollars for a reason.

1690
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: And then you know Miami, Texas, A and m if

1691
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 1: one of those teams got hot that they they're pretty tough.

1692
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: You know, Indiana, like they're really good, But is is

1693
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: the is the was a wide receiver, Omar Kelly the

1694
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: second Omar Cooper? Yeah, Omar Cooper. Like if he's there

1695
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 1: and they got three wide receiver, is they're really tough?

1696
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: But is he have a high ankles brains? He out

1697
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: for the playoffs? I mean, you know, college is not

1698
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 1: like the pros. You don't. We won't find out for

1699
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: a while what his status is. But yeah, I would

1700
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: say Indiana, Georgia, ohiose date Oregon wouldn't shock me if

1701
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,799
Speaker 1: any of those four, I would say Oklahoma could definitely

1702
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: upset somebody.

1703
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 2: I wonder with Indiana because I know, like Indiana is

1704
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,560
Speaker 2: one of those teams. It's so hard to mentally compose

1705
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 2: and say that this team is the number one team

1706
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 2: in the country.

1707
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: They just be Ohio State.

1708
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 2: But you do wonder, like we're all human at the

1709
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: end of the day, can can Signetty get him right

1710
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 2: three and a half weeks against an Oklahoma team that's

1711
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 2: just gonna punch him in the mouth like Ohio State's

1712
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 2: defense they started out slow, and if it wasn't for

1713
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 2: that interception, some field goals early the back shoulder fade

1714
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 2: like outside of that touchdown, they lead to field goals

1715
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 2: the whole game. They lose, like I do wonder against

1716
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 2: an Oklahoma Fire team that has nothing to lose with

1717
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 2: Indiana that now feels like they kind of have something

1718
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 2: to lose with.

1719
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: How see, I'd argue they'd beat Ohio Date if they

1720
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: win one. If they beat Oklahoma and then lost to

1721
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: Oregon in the I guess it would be the final four.

1722
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: It's a great that is an incredible season. I mean

1723
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: that is that's a that's a contract for life for Signetty.

1724
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 1: Once you beat Ohio State, I do think you just

1725
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: need to win the one game. Though it would be

1726
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: a pretty big letdown if you lose Oklahoma Alabama, but

1727
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: I'm in agreement there.

1728
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 2: And then if you're Oregon, you're smiling ear to ear

1729
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: because you don't got to play in the Big Ten

1730
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: Championship game and you've got a road where.

1731
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: At Texas Tech team.

1732
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: I know Texas Tech fans will be like, we spent

1733
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 2: a lot of money, Like you spend twenty eight million

1734
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 2: dollars on a roster, but I think outside of their

1735
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 2: defensive line, I think their offense is pretty exposable. The

1736
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: red zone offense isn't very great on an Oregon team.

1737
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 2: They just have to get healthy, like if they're receivers,

1738
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 2: like the Korean Moore who's been their freshman All American

1739
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 2: that hasn't really played. He had some big catches against

1740
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 2: the Penn State. Like that's why people were some people

1741
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 2: were kind of puzzling on Dante more like should you

1742
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 2: go to the draft? Should he not? Like I think

1743
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 2: I credit him for finding ways to win without his

1744
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 2: top receivers on the road to Iowa. Obviously, the USC

1745
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 2: game was weird at Washington. Uh, they're kind of a

1746
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 2: team to me where if there.

1747
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 1: They are speaking name. They came in last year, all

1748
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: the pressure was on them, and then they got Ohio State,

1749
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 1: who Ryan day rallied the troops after that Michigan game.

1750
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: They blew out Tennessee in that cold night game and

1751
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: they came in just humming And that wasn't like twenty

1752
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 1: eight nothing at the end of the first quarter or something.

1753
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: It was crazy. He's ridiculous. It was. It was like

1754
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 1: the equivalent of a rose ball when McCaffrey played Iowa.

1755
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: Remember he scored on the kickoff return, and then all

1756
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it was like, we're gonna beat you

1757
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: guys one hundred to nothing and that. But it was

1758
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, Stanford was unreal. At the time,

1759
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: Oregon just felt like these are two equals and they

1760
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: got destroyed. So I think it's kind of a rallying cry.

1761
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 1: I do think they've pad That win against Iowa was

1762
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: pretty incredible, Like that was like the beating Iowa this

1763
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 1: year is not easy, Like that was a good win

1764
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: for USC That was a fantastic win for them. On

1765
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: the road. That drive to throw he made down the

1766
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: right side was beautiful. That I don't drive. I remember

1767
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I finished playing golf. I've been

1768
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: watching and I listened in my car and then I

1769
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: rewatched it when I got home. That that was sweet,

1770
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 1: Like that was that's one of the better You would

1771
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: say Indiana's driving against Pennas State might be the best

1772
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: drive of the year. That was sick. I mean, catch

1773
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: of the year for sure. You could argue Oregon's drive

1774
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: was to get in the field goal range because you

1775
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: know college kickers, it's wet and cold. I mean that

1776
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: was that was really really hard. And I think last

1777
01:26:56,479 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: year listen, just you know, part of football too is

1778
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: like you can't lay an egg. That's the thing in

1779
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: the playoff like in the NFL. This is not basketball,

1780
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,759
Speaker 1: but you see all the time a team will lose.

1781
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: I think the Warriors played the Grizzlies one year, lost

1782
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: the game by like fifty, won the series, Like it

1783
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: doesn't in football. You have a bad half in a

1784
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: playoff game because you start getting really tight, you start realizing,

1785
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,799
Speaker 1: like our season's over, and they ran into a perfect storm.

1786
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 1: I think obviously I would expect Oregon honestly, twenty one

1787
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: and a half. That number is not big enough. I

1788
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: would put it like thirty five. I think they are.

1789
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a landing. We're gonna we're gonna

1790
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: try to be a thirty five to nothing in halftime.

1791
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to get it going. Because he just

1792
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: saw what it meant for a team coming in to

1793
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 1: play him, just to roll and have positive momentum, not

1794
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: that they have like a negative feeling because that they're

1795
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: coming in. I think a lot of people think playing

1796
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,719
Speaker 1: some of the better football over last month of anyone

1797
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:57,759
Speaker 1: in the country. But I would, honestly, you could convince

1798
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 1: me that numbers I don't know, like six to nothing

1799
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: unless it's like a torrential downpour or freezing cold, that

1800
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: that would change a little. Like the Notre Dame game

1801
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: last year was so cold. What was the final score

1802
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: that Notre Dame, Indiana was like twenty seven to seven

1803
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: or something, and they.

1804
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 2: Scored five seven touch pounds A look closer, Yeah, I

1805
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 2: think it was like twenty.

1806
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: Seven, but it wasn't like fifty to seven right now.

1807
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 1: But it's harder to blow someone out in a frigid coal.

1808
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean, what was a ten degrees If it's just

1809
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 1: cold and a little wet, like, I think they are

1810
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: pedal to the metal destroying them. And then I think

1811
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: Oregon's favored against Texas deck feels.

1812
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 2: Like the Rutgers game. Oregon's game plan where they just

1813
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 2: ran for like three hundred and four yards, just multiple backs.

1814
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna run the ball, especially if they have receiver injuries.

1815
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 2: You don't even contemplate play in a.

1816
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: Minnesota game I remember watching on Friday night, they kind

1817
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: of did that too, just just run it down their throat.

1818
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: I got what's your what's your guests on the Texas

1819
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: deck Oregon. Let's say Oregon rolls. I mean it's Oregon

1820
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: is touchdown, went by ten. I think Oregon is probably

1821
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: a six saying, what do you think the line is?

1822
01:28:58,120 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: Like five? Six points? Seven points?

1823
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, six and a half being a neutral site. The

1824
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 2: one thing would be, you know, Texas Texas defense, like

1825
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 2: could they hold Oregon enough? But Texas texts red zone

1826
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 2: off and if you're if you're settling for six field

1827
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 2: goals against BYU, like, I'm just I'm sorry. I don't

1828
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 2: think you can do anything against Oregon. I just like,

1829
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 2: do not think their secondary is better than what BYU showed.

1830
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 2: I think their offensive line got a little exposed against BYU.

1831
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 2: B YU was a good defense, But I just I

1832
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 2: think it's a different level of competition where I mean

1833
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 2: ASU played Texas, I mean ASU played Texas Bowl last year.

1834
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's the same level of what

1835
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Texas texts played for this year. I agree.

1836
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 2: One more team. I want to mention Georgia. I think,

1837
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know who I think is gonna

1838
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 2: win at all. They might be the hottest team in

1839
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 2: the country right now. How they're playing. It feels like

1840
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 2: their defense has finally figured it out. Gunnar Stockton came

1841
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 2: and we didn't know a whole lot about him. I

1842
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 2: know preseason we talked about Bama and I know we

1843
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 2: were kind of ranking some of these quarterbacks heading into

1844
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:58,759
Speaker 2: the year, and he was like, oh, Gunner Stockton, Ty Simpsons,

1845
01:29:58,760 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1846
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: Gunnar stock did. Feels like one of the more non

1847
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: talked about quarterbacks in football.

1848
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 2: And all this guy does is complete passes and take

1849
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 2: shots and do it all over again and just run

1850
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 2: for first downs. They're a gritty team. I think they're

1851
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 2: super dangerous and their path right now you get Old Miss.

1852
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 2: They would probably end up playing Ohio State in our

1853
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 2: backyard at the festival. But I think they're a team

1854
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 2: that could have win the NATTI this year. I want

1855
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 2: to be shocked too. I do have a fourteen to

1856
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 2: one bet on him.

1857
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 1: So I'd be a sick Fiesta Bowl Georgia last day.

1858
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: I do think they really it lines up pretty good

1859
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 1: for them because they'll get Old Miss Lane is gone.

1860
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: That was a crazy game this year because it was

1861
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 1: like Ole Miss scored every single drive for like three

1862
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 1: straight quarters and then Kirby kind of like it felt

1863
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 1: like gave his d line a wink and a hit

1864
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 1: on the ass and they started destroying Trinidad. I mean

1865
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 1: it was like, remember he we were all texting about it.

1866
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: He melted it down in fairness, he was getting and

1867
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: he was hot too, he was red hot. So that

1868
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: to me is a pretty good beside. The two shitty

1869
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,839
Speaker 1: teams don't belong to be there. If you told Georgia

1870
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: you could pick one team to play, I think they

1871
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 1: would be Ole Miss. They might pick Bama be their

1872
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 1: number one. Pick Ole Miss might be number two, And

1873
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 1: then you get Ohio State or one of these other

1874
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 1: two teams that have just played. Like the U versus

1875
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: A and M is gonna be a war physically. I mean,

1876
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: there are gonna be some people that get get like

1877
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza on the ground. There are people are gonna

1878
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 1: be getting their teeth knocked in whoever wins that game.

1879
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 1: I think Ohio State will be, you know, be the same.

1880
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 1: That thing will be a physical whoever's coming in like there,

1881
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 1: especially if one of those the U or A and

1882
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: M were to win both games, they would have to

1883
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 1: be physically like that's a that's a tough two games stretch.

1884
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: Ohio State's a little bit easier. But you just played

1885
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 1: a Warzone game, So then you're playing I guess you

1886
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 1: get what basically twenty plus days off till this game

1887
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: on the thirty first or the first, because that would

1888
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 1: be yeah, I guess their game would be the.

1889
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 2: Thirty first, But yeah, after the quarterfinal, it's a week

1890
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 2: in between.

1891
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 1: I think Georgia is gonna come in on a little

1892
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 1: bit of an easier like that game against Alabama. They

1893
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 1: have less guys than the ice tub. Like every single

1894
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: player that played at Ohio State or Indiana was like

1895
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:18,759
Speaker 1: struggling to get out of bed for a couple of days.

1896
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 1: You know, that game was that was sweet. I mean

1897
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 1: it would look like Green Bay versus Indiana, right, I

1898
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: mean Green Bay versus First Chicago, Like it was a

1899
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 1: very physical game, like those type games we don't even

1900
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You don't get those all the time,

1901
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 1: you know, like Cincinnati Buffalo ate one of those. Right,

1902
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: But there are a few games that I think that matters.

1903
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: I think the attrition to wearing tear though you would

1904
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:49,759
Speaker 1: say Ohio State, I mean, how often they've been tested

1905
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 1: over the last couple of months often not at all.

1906
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think George is so so multiple on offense.

1907
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 2: They have so much depth. They have three or four

1908
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 2: running backs and Zach Ryer Branch is kind of that

1909
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 2: breakout start for them on the offensive end. But then

1910
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 2: more importantly, you have a quarterback that played last year

1911
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 2: in this game. You have a team that knew what

1912
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 2: it was like for a first run by Kirby. Smart's

1913
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 2: a smart coach, like he's been there before. He knows

1914
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 2: how it would just from a year before to now.

1915
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 2: I just think he would be the more Mendoz's up

1916
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 2: there in terms of quarterbacks I trust more saying I

1917
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 2: don't know after that Big Ten championship game, he hasn't

1918
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 2: really been battle tested. But for me, Gunnarstock, it would

1919
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,759
Speaker 2: be my most trusted quarterback. What he did at Tennessee

1920
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 2: Auburn Texas fourth and goal, like a bunch of fourth downs,

1921
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 2: third down conversions that matters in this in the sport.

1922
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 2: And how big of a game this his and I

1923
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 2: think that's the event is that Georgia will have in

1924
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 2: this game. I think that's why they could win the

1925
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 2: entire the entire thing. I think it'd be good for

1926
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,560
Speaker 2: the SEC. Finally get that SEC big ten matchup. You

1927
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 2: can play Ohio State and if they win that game,

1928
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 2: you know they got bragging rights because last year the

1929
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 2: SEC did not perform well in the CFP too. But

1930
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I just I think George is the

1931
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 2: most dangerous team. And you're right, they don't have to

1932
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 2: play the gritty, grindy teams that Ohio State does or

1933
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 2: the A and M does that they have to because

1934
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 2: regardless if ohiosly wins by ten against A and M

1935
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 2: or Miami, you're gonna get You're gonna be a little

1936
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 2: banged up in the trench.

1937
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 1: Say the leads big time. Totally. A couple more questions.

1938
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 2: We'll go in an NFL draft and we'll go into

1939
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 2: some coaching stuff. Mendoza feels like he's the number one

1940
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 2: overall pick. You could kind of talk about what your

1941
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 2: thoughts on Fernando Mendoza. It seems like he's like the

1942
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 2: legit guy. He seems legit. Do you think Dante Moore,

1943
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 2: Tyas Simpsons should stay or declaire Just kind of this

1944
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 2: overall quarterback class where we thought was gonna be one

1945
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,680
Speaker 2: of the more best quarterback classes, it seems like Mendoza

1946
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 2: and maybe Dante Moore in top five if he does

1947
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 2: come out. It's interesting to see what he's twenty years

1948
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 2: old his first year playing. Wolfstein's gone as he go back.

1949
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 2: Ty Simpson to me, seems like he should just go

1950
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:51,480
Speaker 2: back regardless.

1951
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 1: One the quick thing on Oregon. I heard someone say

1952
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 1: this the other day, like, we've had a lot of

1953
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:02,320
Speaker 1: coaches that are taking a job continue to coach like

1954
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 1: a coordinator, right, you know, it happened forever with Nick Saban.

1955
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,640
Speaker 1: We've seen it with Kirby and Dan Lanning. It's a

1956
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: little bit different when you're playing potentially three or four games,

1957
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: so they're both their coordinators are head coach Kentucky, head

1958
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: coach of cal right now, you know, landing the defense

1959
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 1: as baby not as crazy of like it's easier to

1960
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 1: will starin. Like I heard an interview with him driving

1961
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 1: around on College Football Serious Channel eighty four. It's actually

1962
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: pretty good. Listen, Rick new Heiswelh hosts a show on there,

1963
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 1: and uh, he was like you could just tell like

1964
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 1: Kentucky is like a major priority for him now, and

1965
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 1: I just you just have to wonder James Madison won't

1966
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 1: be an issue but that's something to keep an eye on,

1967
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, like are they getting the full and part

1968
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: of it is, you know, Dante Moore, if you if

1969
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: they're in the National Championship, that means he's playing a

1970
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 1: game against Texas Tech, which I mean everyone will be

1971
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 1: watching that thing, then playing Oklahoma Bama or Indiana Everyone's

1972
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:04,679
Speaker 1: watching that thing, and then playing like Georgia, Ohio State

1973
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: or Miami like every you know. So it's like he

1974
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 1: could have a run where you go, well, this guy actually,

1975
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, what if he plays Fernando Mendoza in when

1976
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 1: that I guess that would be the semi that would

1977
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 1: be the final four. What if he outplays them? I

1978
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 1: know they don't technically play each other, but like what

1979
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: if he just one guy throws four touchdowns and the

1980
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 1: other guy's just the bed. I mean, so I would say,

1981
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: as we sit here right now, Mendoza's pretty clear one.

1982
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 1: He's bigger. I mean, Mendoza looks. I mean, it's closer

1983
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,879
Speaker 1: to like Andrew Luck measurementsary I was thinking today Herbert

1984
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: physically probably has a little more juice to him. But

1985
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 1: it's kind of in that realm of like the tall long,

1986
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 1: you know, six' five. Ish herbert's got a stronger arm

1987
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 1: the both good. ATHLETES i Think mendoza's aren't pretty. Strong

1988
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 1: it's not, weak BUT i think there Are and Remember

1989
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 1: herbert coming out Of, oregon like Obviously burrow went one

1990
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 1: but to one above. Him you, know people forget that

1991
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 1: because now it's like an afterthought. Too it throws from

1992
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 1: one hundred yards and his team still.

1993
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 2: Win Dante, MOORE i feel like he would learn from

1994
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 2: like What Drew allard did last, year where he was

1995
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 2: like one of the hottest names after THE cfp and

1996
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 2: what his run. Was even though he threw that late.

1997
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 2: Interception people were, like, oh this guy's the top, five

1998
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 2: top ten. Pick AND i know he ended up not

1999
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 2: panning out that way and this year will probably be

2000
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 2: like a fifth round. Pick but it feels like if You're,

2001
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 2: dante where you got to strike with the irons hot

2002
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 2: and if it doesn't work out early in THE, nfl

2003
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 2: you're a top five, pick they're going to keep you around.

2004
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 2: Him maybe he's a guy that he's twenty years, old

2005
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:34,719
Speaker 2: he's kind of a skinnier built.

2006
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 1: Like A Jaden. Daniels they just kind of sit on

2007
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,680
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i do think ye you, Know mendills has been

2008
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 1: had two years OF cal and then this, year so

2009
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 1: he's and it lost a, lot had to go into

2010
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 1: a lot of games less talent when he was A.

2011
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 1: Cal you, Know dante's been A i mean he started

2012
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 1: technically some game For chip that did not go. WELL i,

2013
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 1: mean no one's even valuing, that like that is. Irrelevant

2014
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 1: but like of being a good, player he's had one

2015
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 1: year and how many good? Games like how many good

2016
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 1: teams have they Play INDIANA? Usc like he doesn't have that?

2017
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 1: Many like THE nfl fan OR nfl scouts or aren't

2018
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 1: just Killing, Minnesota like doesn't do anything for? Them, Right

2019
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 1: that's Where Fernando mendoza gets a lot of credit Of

2020
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 1: like you, know, ARGUABLY i don't know how many touchdowns

2021
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 1: to rot, has But cooper had. Eleven so it's like

2022
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: you lose a guy that gave eleven, Touchdowns like first

2023
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 1: series of the, game your second best wide receiver is

2024
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 1: the vander or not The. Vanderbilt but The nashville guy

2025
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,680
Speaker 1: did Did gus call Him baker Not? BECKER i think

2026
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 1: he was calling him the wrong. Name BUT i have

2027
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: some people text regardless like that's you you're going up

2028
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 1: Against Ohio state that probably has multiple first round, corners

2029
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,559
Speaker 1: let Alone Caleb. Downs you, know in those, environments that's

2030
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,680
Speaker 1: what you get judged, on and that's where you, know

2031
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 1: going up Against texas text d line will be a,

2032
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 1: big great evaluation. Point, again he doesn't need to come

2033
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 1: out like what Would oregon pay him to come? Back

2034
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 1: five six million? Dollars now you do sign a forty

2035
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 1: million dollars contract when you are the Number even if

2036
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 1: he's not the number one, PICK i, Mean Dante moore

2037
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: will probably go pretty.

2038
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 2: HIGH i think they'd be really good next year, too

2039
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 2: if you were to come.

2040
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 1: Back what was It next year is supposed to be their? Year, yeah,

2041
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 1: yeah wasn't tool? Year?

2042
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah this Is are they one of the youngest teams

2043
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 2: in the. Country, yeah that's like their downside is just

2044
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 2: their youth and not. Inexperienced BUT i, mean you got

2045
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 2: a lot of young you got two freshman, receivers you

2046
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 2: got a freshman running, back a lot of young guys

2047
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 2: in the second aar on the back ind.

2048
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 1: Side BUT i don't, KNOW i think he's in a good.

2049
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 2: POSITION i think it would be tough for him TO i,

2050
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 2: think you, know THE nfl like teams are so quarterback

2051
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 2: needy where it's like THE nfl maybe pushes him To,

2052
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 2: hey you, Know mendoz and you are at number one

2053
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 2: and too like you're guaranteed be a top, five top ten.

2054
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:43,599
Speaker 1: Pick you're twenty years.

2055
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:46,639
Speaker 2: Old like the Will stein factor definitely has to play into.

2056
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 2: It BUT i wanted To you made a good point

2057
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 2: talking about uh Will. Stein kentucky fully locked in on

2058
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 2: that versus in the. Playoff we didn't Mention Ohio. State

2059
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 2: that's another team Where Brian hartline go TO usf And

2060
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 2: i'm sure you've seen the clips him talking About South.

2061
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 2: Florida he feels like another. Guy and that's another team

2062
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 2: where you're kind of hesitant on how you Approach Ohio

2063
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 2: state in the playoff BECAUSE i don't know if it Was.

2064
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 2: BRIAN i don't know if it Was Brian hartline or

2065
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 2: if it Was Ryan day calling the plays Versus. Indiana

2066
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 2: but some of those short yardist situations didn't look like

2067
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 2: we expected to for the entire season For Ohio. State

2068
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 2: that's another Area i'm interested to see how they are

2069
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 2: With Brian hartline if he makes a four round playoff.

2070
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 1: Run like you're, talking you're telling me In.

2071
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 2: January he's not focused on the portal or focus on

2072
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 2: his team while he's trying to coach the. Offense that

2073
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 2: seems like another sticky situation that could Affect Ohio. State,

2074
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:38,760
Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean you, Know georgia doesn't look like lost, anybody, Right,

2075
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,680
Speaker 2: no So indiana somehow no one even talks to their.

2076
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 1: COORDINATORS i mean their defensive. Coordinator if he was At,

2077
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 1: Georgia Ohio state would be would be interviewing like seven different.

2078
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 1: Places so, YEAH i mean it's. DEFINITELY i Mean South florida.

2079
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 1: TOO i think they you, know in the revshare, world

2080
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 1: all these non are they are they in The big.

2081
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 1: Twelve they're a group of Five Central Central florida is

2082
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 1: in The big. Twelve South florida they do like full.

2083
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 1: Revshere most of these Like Fresno, State Boise, state like

2084
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 1: they're Not they're not any money to give their. Players

2085
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 1: it's a IT'S i heard someone, say it's, like by,

2086
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 1: far over the next couple, years is gonna be the

2087
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 1: best non power forward job because of the money they

2088
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 1: have to pay. Players because WHEN i saw he took that,

2089
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 1: JOB i, like why would you take that? Job and

2090
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: THEN i heard it just the revenue share they're going

2091
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,799
Speaker 1: on no different than all the other you, KNOW sec

2092
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: AND acc. Schools so, YEAH i MEAN I i think

2093
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:36,360
Speaker 1: that all these, variables you, know with just, NIL i,

2094
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 1: mean are there gonna be guys that on the team that, go,

2095
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 1: Yeah i'm not even Playing i'm gonna go in the. Portal,

2096
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 1: now you just never. Know this Is it's why it's

2097
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 1: things can change. Fast if you told, me like a team's, like,

2098
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 1: ah this guy's like their slot. Receiver he's just he

2099
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:53,600
Speaker 1: just went in the portal because maybe he's hearing, like,

2100
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: yeah we're not gonna pay it as much next. Year

2101
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 1: we had another guy coming, In like that's liable to

2102
01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 1: happen beside you, know like the star. Play but you

2103
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 1: just never know in this. World i'm prepared for. Anything i'm, like,

2104
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 1: yeah so and so they're starting defensive. Tackle just he

2105
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 1: quit not to like quit to go to the, draft

2106
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 1: like he's just gonna go to another team that.

2107
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:15,600
Speaker 2: Was Like Penn state's backup quarterback For bulah and they

2108
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 2: used him in the running.

2109
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 1: Game he had to.

2110
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 2: Leave he had to go to the porta before the

2111
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,559
Speaker 2: playoff was even started because he had to go To

2112
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 2: Mazoo like he had to get himself a starting quarterback,

2113
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:26,640
Speaker 2: Job so not saying like it could be of the

2114
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 2: impact of, that but it's just a weird.

2115
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 1: Situation but my last, question we'll wrap up on this

2116
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 1: coaching movement a ton of.

2117
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 2: Highers it feels like all the spots have finally filled

2118
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 2: up like two, weeks which is. Crazy what are the

2119
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 2: fits that you think are most likely to turn.

2120
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 1: Around in twenty twenty.

2121
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 2: Six it's tough with like the portal and, recruited we

2122
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 2: don't know really who's. There and then what was the

2123
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 2: coaching move that you were just like what the? Fuck,

2124
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 2: like tell me who your? Favorite who's your? Favorite higher my?

2125
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 2: Favorite it feels like some are all is going to

2126
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 2: work At florida. SOMEHOW i don't know if it's because

2127
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 2: he's a little, fiery he's more vocal what he did

2128
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 2: At tulane being able to turn around and most of

2129
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 2: those guys left when When mensa left his quarterback to

2130
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 2: get retzl from B yu and to even be a playoff.

2131
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 2: Team he seems like a guy THAT i think they just, needed,

2132
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,719
Speaker 2: uh they just NEEDED i feel Like florida just needed

2133
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 2: like an identity. Change they just needed a guy that

2134
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 2: was more, fiery not, quiet who's gonna kind of put

2135
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 2: his thumb up as butt when you know things are going,

2136
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 2: on kind of saying the same thing over and over.

2137
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 2: Again SO i Like summer Al. FLORIDA i think there's

2138
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 2: a bunch of fits, where you, know even Like Eric

2139
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:33,600
Speaker 2: morris To Okahoma, state or even Like tosh going To

2140
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 2: cal and Keeping jks in the weak acc that's, huge

2141
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 2: like he would have been one of the top quarterbacks

2142
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:41,640
Speaker 2: in the. Portal so you have a draw of a

2143
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 2: Former oregon defensive coordinator that's successful With cal his. ALUMP

2144
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 2: i like that fit, Too but there's a TON i,

2145
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 2: MEAN i feel LIKE i like a lot of, these

2146
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 2: and the next.

2147
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 1: Year we'll see him and it's like it didn't work.

2148
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 1: Out SO i do think The tosh thing is pretty. Unique,

2149
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: right he played, there so he understands it's not a

2150
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 1: normal place to. COACH i, mean they rebuilt the stadium

2151
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 1: like ten years, ago and they had people living in

2152
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 1: the tree taking dumbs out of the. Tree like in

2153
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 1: THE sec they would have thrown those people in a

2154
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,759
Speaker 1: ditch and buried him and everyone would have just built

2155
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 1: the road right, over not even. Cared it's it can

2156
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 1: be a little, wacky but he kind of he's A barryer.

2157
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 1: Guy he's an elite, recruiter and now that like you

2158
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 1: don't have to hide the brown, bag WHICH i think

2159
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 1: he did over the. Years AS i, SAW i Had

2160
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 1: ojeron say the difference in the. Nil he's, like they're,

2161
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 1: like how are you gonna handle a? Nil it's like

2162
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 1: you can go in the front, door and now you

2163
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 1: don't need to go in the back with the, bag you,

2164
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:41,639
Speaker 1: know hiding behind the. Trees SO i Think, TOSH i Think,

2165
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 1: rollovich the Former Washington state coach and a white, coach

2166
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 1: is probably gonna stay and be, there you, know potentially

2167
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:50,759
Speaker 1: their offensive, coordinator potentially his rapport with the. Quarterback obviously

2168
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 1: he's pretty good in THE. Acc just kind of stinks,

2169
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 1: NOW i, think big, picture it's not a sexy. Hire

2170
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 1: he could be a little cheesy watching his press c

2171
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 1: Conference Matt, campbell but this was a guy that like

2172
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 1: has turned DOWN, usc has turned down Probably, FLORA i,

2173
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: mean has turned Down i'm sure massive, jobs and all

2174
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden they just kind of feels like walk

2175
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 1: into him a little bit like. THAT i don't, know

2176
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 1: clearly wasn't their number one, choice but he does kind

2177
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 1: of feel like A Penn state. Guy you. Know now

2178
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 1: the recruiting Rankings James Virginia tech like went up one

2179
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 1: hundred spots immediately A james an elite. Recruiter you do

2180
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 1: need to kind of be both At Penn, state like

2181
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 1: it does recruit itself a little. Bit BUT i say

2182
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 1: that about other programs Like, Florida it's, like, well you

2183
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 1: kind of got to recruit and. Coach so there's just

2184
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of pressure on. Him you. Know

2185
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 1: you kind of you could have eight and five seasons

2186
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 1: or nine and four, seasons people, like, oh good job

2187
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 1: you that At Penn state people will freak. Out SO

2188
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 1: i think it's like the pressure maybe not next, year

2189
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 1: but over the course of then the fallowing couple of,

2190
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 1: years like you're gonna need like an eleven and one

2191
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 1: ten two, year especially if the schedule breaks right AND

2192
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 1: i we'll, see because there's a big difference THAT i

2193
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 1: was stayed In Penn state in terms of the. Pressure,

2194
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 1: NO i would say the same thing For, Lane Like

2195
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 1: lane in a weird, way doesn't have that many big wins.

2196
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 1: Historically right this year Beat, OKLAHOMA i think he Beat,

2197
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 1: oregon when he was AT usc he'd Beat georgia last.

2198
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 1: Year but it's not like he is a guy like you,

2199
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 1: Know Brian kelly for a long, time A notre, dame

2200
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 1: rattle off a bunch of big, wins AND i just

2201
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 1: think the pressure to. LSU i don't want to say

2202
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna get a pass next, year but it's, Like,

2203
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,680
Speaker 1: okay you go nine and, three you, know be like

2204
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 1: the sixteen. Seed people be. COOL i think you're gonna

2205
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: have to people like you gotta win a national championship

2206
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: in the first couple of. Years he definitely has to

2207
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 1: be like in the final four because they're gonna have

2208
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 1: one of the highest paid. Rosters they're gonna need to

2209
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 1: have like A Georgia Ohio state. Season then even if

2210
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 1: you don't win, it it's, Like, Okay i'm in The

2211
01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:59,640
Speaker 1: final four and we lose by a field, goal the

2212
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 1: pressure there is gonna be IMMNS i mean. Immense The

2213
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 1: Pete golding seems like a good.

2214
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 2: GUY i don't, Know let's that Loves.

2215
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:11,760
Speaker 1: Oxford, yeah tough.

2216
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:13,640
Speaker 2: Spot but when you're talking about About, CAMPBELL i was,

2217
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 2: like going to the schedule next, year they don't Play Ohio, State,

2218
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 2: oregon Or.

2219
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 1: Indiana they play At.

2220
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 2: Michigan they have A usc at, home so that could

2221
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 2: be like a bridge year where they go eight and,

2222
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 2: four nine and.

2223
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:24,240
Speaker 1: Three Fan mase is.

2224
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 2: Fine the high school recruiting, obviously they had like two recruits,

2225
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 2: signs so they might have to go fully.

2226
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:31,280
Speaker 1: Portal they're another team WHERE.

2227
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 2: I wonder if his Quarterback Iowa State Rock obeck's been

2228
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 2: a guy that's been playing for like four. Years he's

2229
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 2: got one more, year so you kind of poach him

2230
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 2: over and have like a, starter you have a for

2231
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 2: sure quarterback that can start there the kind of like you, know.

2232
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 1: Rebuild a revivor program.

2233
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 2: IMMEDIATELY i don't, know but it would be interesting to

2234
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 2: see if he were to go over there and follow.

2235
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 2: HIM i don't know if he's a big ten quarterback,

2236
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 2: though so we'll.

2237
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 1: See is he kind of a run around? Guy, yeah

2238
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 1: he's kind of short. TOO i mean he's like A.

2239
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 1: Brock he's played similar Like brock pretty was when he

2240
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 1: was At Iowa. STATE i feel Like brock through a

2241
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:04,799
Speaker 1: better in. Him, yeah, yeah, yeah you're, right.

2242
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:11,600
Speaker 2: But, yeah head scratching, wise you're more you, Know california

2243
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 2: More Bob CHESNEY. UCLA i don't know if it's Too

2244
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 2: i'm not Discrediting Bob, chesney but it. Was it felt

2245
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 2: like a weird fit and it felt one of those

2246
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:21,680
Speaker 2: LIKE i Thought Bob chesney was more of like An

2247
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 2: East coast.

2248
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:24,639
Speaker 1: Guy so no one's taking Their no one's taking their. Job,

2249
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 1: yeah like no one with any name recognition or any

2250
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 1: options taking their. Job and you, know my Guy skipper

2251
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 1: won three games and they didn't win another. Game, uh

2252
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 1: but you know he's at Cal paula great, HIGHER i

2253
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:40,599
Speaker 1: mean credible. Higher BUT i also think THAT ucla it's

2254
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 1: hard to get someone to take that, job you, KNOW

2255
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 1: i Mean Bob. Chesney, YEAH i think it's more JUST

2256
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 1: i just don't think animal's taking their. JOB i really

2257
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 1: think it comes down to, that, Right and if you

2258
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 1: look like he's just, going, well IF i can get

2259
01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 1: seven eight wins for a couple of, years why wouldn't

2260
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 1: a massive program hire? Me and that's WHAT i think

2261
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 1: he's doing because typically he Replaced, Signetti, Right, yeah SO

2262
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:14,120
Speaker 1: jml the. Coach, yeah you can dominate A, jmu but

2263
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:16,679
Speaker 1: look who the teams that are hiring. You, Now indiana's awesome,

2264
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 1: Now but like that, was he wasn't getting hired By

2265
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:23,800
Speaker 1: nebraska or now His probagram's better than them. Now But

2266
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 1: nebraska never would have hired, you or you, Know clemson or.

2267
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 1: Whoever but you prove you could. Win a year, later

2268
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 1: everyone wanted signety if u C la in two years

2269
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:38,600
Speaker 1: of state and four, like why WOULDN'T i whatever his

2270
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 1: kind of dream area, is why Wouldn't Florida state be?

2271
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 1: Interested you know whoever you picked the.

2272
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 2: SCHOOL i do think it's cool that we're the last last.

2273
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:49,720
Speaker 2: FIT i want to mention it kind of was under the.

2274
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 2: Radar But Colin kline To Kansas. State he's a guy

2275
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 2: that WHEN i grew up him In, Oregon Kansas state.

2276
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK i do think it's kind of cool that we're

2277
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:00,719
Speaker 2: kind of going down this different avenue and college football

2278
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 2: that former guys of the universities want to help their.

2279
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 2: PROGRAM i want to help their. Album minor out What

2280
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:09,759
Speaker 2: tash is, doing What Colin klein's. Doing brohm didn't, Leave

2281
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 2: Clark lee didn't leave Frent Key. Dillingham, LIKE i think

2282
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:17,519
Speaker 2: that's kind of a, cool like new aspect of college

2283
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:19,600
Speaker 2: football that we're starting to get. Into is most of

2284
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:22,799
Speaker 2: these former like alumni guys want to really help their program.

2285
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 2: Out i'm excited to see what you, Know Colin kline

2286
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 2: could do At KANSAS i Know Kansas.

2287
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 1: Stay it's not a big.

2288
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 2: PROGRAM i don't Know big twelve to get talked about a,

2289
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 2: bunch but it's just it's it's a sick hire in my,

2290
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 2: opinion and he's one of the best play.

2291
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 1: Callers, yeah definitely is. Man i'm with you on, That, Okay, Jackson,

2292
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 1: uh take it, easy, Bro, Iris i'll see you. Later.

2293
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 1: Okay let's dive into someone who this weekend is going

2294
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 1: to be zoned. In, now as of recording, this we

2295
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 1: don't know If Philip rivers is going to be starting or.

2296
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 1: Not but the man has ten, children seven, daughters three.

2297
01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 1: Boys he even has a. Grandchild i'm pretty he said

2298
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: at the press conference On wednesday that he has a

2299
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:05,759
Speaker 1: daughter that's, married so that this is a unique forty

2300
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 1: four year. Old this is a guy that you, know

2301
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 1: his prime was a long time, ago, Right we're talking

2302
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 1: a decade. Ago but the last time he played AN

2303
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 1: nfl game twenty. Twenty this is a guy making his.

2304
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Return there is gonna be no person if he plays

2305
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 1: in this game more zone did one Than Philip. Rivers

2306
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 1: WHO i think is making The, brady's The, breezes The.

2307
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 1: Peytons you can't convince me that they're not a little

2308
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 1: jealous just to get that call like, hey hey, man

2309
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 1: you still got anything? Left hell, YEAH i got something.

2310
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: Left but his. Family can you imagine sometimes a box

2311
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 1: right where you get, like you, know your, girlfriend maybe your,

2312
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:44,640
Speaker 1: parents and it happens to a lot of players in their,

2313
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 1: threat maybe maybe your wife and young. Child potentially if

2314
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 1: he plays in this game or game in the next

2315
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:53,679
Speaker 1: couple of, weeks he is going to have his ten children,

2316
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 1: there his, grandchildren his. Parents Philip rivers is going to

2317
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 1: have The river's contingent to support their. Father and how

2318
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 1: cool is it that? This he, said one of his,

2319
01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: daughters who was one when he last played in THE,

2320
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 1: nfl had to watch like YouTube highlights for him to

2321
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 1: prove that he actually was a good. Player and who,

2322
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,639
Speaker 1: knows maybe he's not a good player. Anymore wouldn't blame,

2323
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 1: Him he's. Not he's forty four years, old probably gained

2324
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 1: a little, weight a little off the. Fastball granted he

2325
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 1: never really had a, fastball was always it was more

2326
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 1: of an accuracy timing. Guy but very very cool moment

2327
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 1: for the family to be able to watch their, father their,

2328
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 1: husband their. Grandpa potentially we don't know for, sure but got.

2329
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 1: It If Philip rivers does not, play if not this

2330
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 1: weekend the following week very, soon we will all be very.

2331
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 1: Disappointed but no one is more zoned in right now

2332
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:54,599
Speaker 1: than The river's. Family the volume