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Speaker 1: this is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the only sound you need on this Monday morning,

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Speaker 1: June third, two thousand and twenty four, your combat sports

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Speaker 1: informers are back. I look at my mom down and yeah,

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Speaker 1: speaking of snow, we have some Connor McGregor breaking news

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Speaker 1: in just a moment. We'll also be recapping all things

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia over the weekend. Luke and the Republican National

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Speaker 1: Convention that we went on in New York.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what. They actually put some UFC fights

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Speaker 2: at a Trump rally.

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Speaker 1: It is great. I'm like, can we get some slap too.

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Speaker 1: I am Brian Campbell. That is my co hostess with

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Speaker 1: the mostess who I'm not gonna lie to you because

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Speaker 1: I know ever do that right. First of all, his

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Speaker 1: name is Luke Thomas. He represents Washington, d C. And

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Speaker 1: Luke with seconds to spare before we went live, your

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Speaker 2: In the words of one of my favorite gunnery sergeants

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Speaker 1: I demolished that commode, so gross and discussing. Luckily, though,

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Speaker 1: That bathroom that really.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the one works like it's a legal shitter, but

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Speaker 2: you can't shit in it, which I think is an

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Speaker 2: HR violation.

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Speaker 1: I think you are an HR violation. But we're happy

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Speaker 1: to be back. Of course, we had the special Friday

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Speaker 1: days later where we belong here Meadowlarks Studios, Manhattan, New York.

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Speaker 2: There was no human feces at the local subway stop today.

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Speaker 1: I was blown away. What did you catch today at Newark,

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Speaker 1: Penn wouldn't you?

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Speaker 2: No, No, I don't go to Newark anymore.

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Speaker 2: We stopped there, but I don't get off the train.

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Speaker 2: We went from Newark to New York.

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Speaker 2: I tweeted on Saturday night that Newark sucks ass, and

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Speaker 2: people from Jersey got upset with me, and I'm like, guys,

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Speaker 2: even if you're from Jersey, yeah, you have to admit,

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Speaker 2: Newark sucks ass.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of northeast armpit New Jersey sucks ass,

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Speaker 1: And we just have to be honest with that. I'm

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Speaker 2: there and BCU two, Jersey City way better than Newark recently, recently, recently,

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Speaker 1: But when like Bobby Hurley was running the show over

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Speaker 2: And yeah, but now I feel a little bit differently

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Speaker 2: Newark Journal Square is not that interesting. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: The voice of Long Island Luke.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying people got bitter that I was like,

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Speaker 2: Deal with it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, there we go just like that. We

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Speaker 1: from Donks and also Luke, pretty damn good batch of

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Speaker 1: Shei at Long Island. Luke, can you confirm that the

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Speaker 2: All right? You build this up and then it's like

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Speaker 1: There's questionable both misogyny and elder abuse in this one.

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Speaker 1: Well, hey, the Prudential Center, there was plenty of freedoms

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Speaker 1: Connor McGregor pay per view cards. You know, automatically you're

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Speaker 2: Playing out, and look, we can go through it right now.

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Speaker 2: Who would even be available. Let's go through this very quickly.

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Speaker 2: If we can, you could go one twenty five Flywery title.

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Speaker 2: If Pantoja is recovered from that ur Sec fight, which

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Speaker 2: Probably not. Sean O'Malley to me is more interesting. You

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Speaker 2: You could potentially do that. That would actually be a

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Speaker 1: Twenty six days. How what is what is a typical

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Speaker 2: Off six weeks, I would say a month is doable,

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Speaker 2: forget it. They're not gonna pull Asphenall off that car

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Speaker 2: Now you can say women's fight, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: Is that a IFW headlineer? No, I want to say

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Speaker 1: It has to be bad if it was injury related,

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Speaker 2: No explanation. Yes, kind of explains it all to a degree.

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Speaker 1: Dude. It's sad because we know the trajectory that Connor

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the mystic back stuff is it's over.

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Speaker 2: Let me also say this, and I know some people

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Speaker 1: Delayed his career, put his career on hold for this

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Speaker 2: He is going. He is thirty eight years of age

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Speaker 1: They coached the Ultimate Fighter a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to again. And I know what

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Speaker 2: He signed the deal, Yeah, fair enough. He could have

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that Connor won't fight at I FW,

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Speaker 1: I just want to close by getting the number of

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Speaker 2: Name what's great. They're gonna have a record. They're going

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Speaker 1: That's why I really hope they give a suitable replacement.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion on Malley Morod would be more than suitable,

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Speaker 1: Get, you about as good as it's going to get.

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Speaker 1: It's tough news to start in this day because we

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Speaker 1: You just saw it right there. All right, that's our

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Speaker 1: get back into topic number one, and you know, you

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Speaker 1: know why you're here in Newark. Over the weekend UFC

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Speaker 1: New Jersey or President Donald J. Trump. Luke got a

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Speaker 1: cage side see for that. I'm not sure if you

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Speaker 1: saw that moment?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what by the moment, I actually I

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Speaker 2: counted the number of times they showed him on camera.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what it is?

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Speaker 1: How many? Thirty four?

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Speaker 2: Can you believe that that's a big number? Thirty four?

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Speaker 2: You know, thirty four times that they got down Trump

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Speaker 2: for thirty four?

437
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's that's another topic for another day.

438
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Speaker 1: It's frustrating to some levels. It's not frustrating from a

439
00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,560
Speaker 1: who do you support politically? It's just frustrating from like like,

440
00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,959
Speaker 1: why don't we just name the pay per view after him?

441
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

442
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Speaker 1: Why don't we just have like a receiving line of

443
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Speaker 1: people to come up to bow down in front of,

444
00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,040
Speaker 1: which I guess we had after strictly went out and

445
00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,840
Speaker 1: took the selfie? Did you like? Derek Brunson tweet that

446
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,080
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has now made more ring walks in the

447
00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,120
Speaker 1: last four years than John Jones for the UFC, which

448
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,760
Speaker 1: is hilarious. Back to the topic at hand, of course,

449
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,200
Speaker 1: was the main event. The reason why we're they're the

450
00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:57,480
Speaker 1: lightweight championship Islam Mahachev extending his closing in on record

451
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Speaker 1: run of unbeaten streak here fourteen coxecutive wins now too

452
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,439
Speaker 1: shy of Anderson Silva's record, but it wasn't easy. A

453
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 1: fifth round submission of the thirty five year old gutsy

454
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Speaker 1: never Say Die, Dustin Pourier, the same lightweight sensation, future

455
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Luke who we really looked into these

456
00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,840
Speaker 1: cameras and said, I love the man, but I cannot

457
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Speaker 1: find a path to victory. Luke Thomas on Saturday, he

458
00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,960
Speaker 1: damn near found a dramatic path to victory by bloodying

459
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Speaker 1: and rocking Mahachevley and then we saw the Bravo choke

460
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Speaker 1: the fifth round submission to get it done. So my

461
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Speaker 1: leadoff question here off the top, after a pay per

462
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Speaker 1: view that was up and down but delivered with this

463
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Speaker 1: thrilling main event, why did this fight end up playing

464
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,399
Speaker 1: out closer than we expected? Why were we so wrong?

465
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Speaker 1: Why we were all right? Go back and listen to here. Well,

466
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Speaker 1: let me just say this.

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Speaker 2: There were people who thought that Islam was going to

468
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Speaker 2: run over Dustin Poarier, which is not necessarily that crazy, right.

469
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,680
Speaker 2: Dustin Poarier had been head kit ko by Justin Gaegee

470
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Speaker 2: back in July of twenty twenty three. He did have

471
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Speaker 2: the I went against BSD, but BSD was getting all

472
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 2: kinds of bad positions on him before he rescued himself

473
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,159
Speaker 2: with of course his trademark power and great boxing. So

474
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Speaker 2: phenomenal win. But this was something of a good That

475
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 2: was a good rebound win against BSD. But let's be honest,

476
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 2: this was something of a sentimental matchmaking for a guy

477
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 2: who doesn't have a lot of time left by his

478
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 2: own admission, and so there was natural skepticism. Plus he

479
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 2: had lost to Habib. He even choked there on the back

480
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 2: by Charles Olavera. I understood that, but we had said

481
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Speaker 2: on Friday that yes, certainly Dustin Poria has his work

482
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Speaker 2: cut out for him, but we also said it worked

483
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Speaker 2: the other way around, that we thought that Islam probably

484
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 2: would be more well rounded and would have, you know,

485
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Speaker 2: a lot of success, which I do think you saw.

486
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 2: I've seen he won the whole fight, but that he

487
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Speaker 2: would face some resistance, maybe less than we thought necessarily

488
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Speaker 2: in the grapling.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but we didn't e let's be outfair, we didn't

490
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Speaker 1: expect this level resistance.

491
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Speaker 2: It's but I don't really share your sentiment that this

492
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Speaker 2: was like, oh, Islam really got battered and beat up,

493
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 2: and yes he got cut and he got hit with

494
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: some big shots. It was a four and plus round fight.

495
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: The reality is on the defensive end, Dustin Parier really

496
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 2: showed some legitimate improvements in the takedown, defense and scrambling department,

497
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Speaker 2: and you've got to give him credit for that. But

498
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Speaker 2: BC I went through it with a fine tooth comb yesterday.

499
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Speaker 2: Let's just say it out loud because it's true, and

500
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 2: that the tape is very clear on this Islam Makachev

501
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 2: outstruck Dustin Parier. Yes he did, and he did, and

502
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: everyone says the same stupid response when I bring that up,

503
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: which is he was worried about the takedown threat. If

504
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Speaker 2: you're saying something like that as the chief explanation, because

505
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 2: it does play a role about that, there can be

506
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Speaker 2: no doubt. If you're saying as the top explanation that

507
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Speaker 2: it was the takedown threat that had Dustin Parier outstruck

508
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Speaker 2: by Islam Makachev, you don't have a fucking clue what

509
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Speaker 2: you're looking at.

510
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Speaker 1: But you just haven't been watching his finishes of other

511
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Speaker 1: former champions. And the point I want to make.

512
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Speaker 2: Is this, what did we see from Islam BC As

513
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Speaker 2: a boxing fan?

514
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Speaker 3: You know this?

515
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Speaker 2: How about all the slipping sure and countering off the

516
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 2: jab and the cross inside and outside slips. Dude, he

517
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: was bobbing, weaving, pivoting out everything you would want, doubling

518
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 2: up on the jab and hitting it with combinations, forcing

519
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: him to a side. Give me a fucking break. Those

520
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: are things you do when your opponent is attacking you.

521
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 2: And he beat him. There, put some respect on his name.

522
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: You don't have to like these guys it's not about

523
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: who you like who you love BC. The question is

524
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Speaker 2: who did what? And I give Poorier credit because he's

525
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 2: tough as shit, not just that night, but every night

526
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: he goes out there. That's who he is, and his

527
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: wrestling that he had done BC with Miteo Shamrock, I

528
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 2: feel like played a big role.

529
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Speaker 1: That's the apology. I want to make the idea that

530
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Speaker 1: we or that I I'll just say, I the idea

531
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Speaker 1: that I thought Poorier, who had been dominated and tapped

532
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: out in his two previous lightweight title attempts and now

533
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: was fighting a guy who was pumped upond number one

534
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: and just a machine and near perfect fighter. I guess

535
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Speaker 1: I just assumed that he wouldn't have shit against him

536
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: on the wrestling, that he would get dominated again. Damn.

537
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: Credit to Poria, not just for being tough, not just

538
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: for being incredible at this advanced age, but for putting

539
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: in that work with Gamra. That was so. If I

540
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Speaker 1: had asked you, why was this fight closer than it

541
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: should have been? Which I asked you, you gotta say

542
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: the wrestling takedown to the that's the answer. Or the

543
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: ability to not get submitted like early.

544
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Speaker 2: On, That's exactly stuffing the takedown. You heard Mike Brown

545
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: say he can't even take you down in the middle

546
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: of the cage. The good down blocking from Dustin Poorier

547
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: was phenomenal.

548
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Speaker 1: This was great.

549
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: It's not like he looked like bad or something. That's

550
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: not at all what I'm saying. But I just feel

551
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: like there's this weird thing where people don't want to

552
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: like Islam, and one of those reasons, I get it. Hey,

553
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: you fight somebody who's beloved like Vulk, they're not gonna

554
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: like you. You fight somebody beloved like Charles, they're not

555
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: gonna like you. And who is more beloved with good

556
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: reason than Dustin Poorie in this game.

557
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: Not many guys, maybe Max Holloway.

558
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: That's so he keeps beating nice guys. But these nice

559
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 2: guys are not chumps. Oh these are some of the

560
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 2: very best dudes, and he is finishing them almost every time.

561
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Speaker 1: You're arguing against the postfight narrative that I saw a

562
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Speaker 1: lot of people of like well, because this fight was

563
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: closer than the one Habib had with him, then this

564
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: must mean Mahachev isn't as good as we thought. No,

565
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: Mahachev looked great. Dustin made adjustments, Dustin was willing to

566
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: pour it out and potentially and what may end up

567
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Speaker 1: going down as the final fight of his career, and

568
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Speaker 1: yet Islam still stood in there, survived the war, and

569
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Speaker 1: was able to put him to sleep, and would say afterwards,

570
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: as Islam gave Dustin rightfully so repeated praise and flowers,

571
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: he basically said, man, this guy is such a dog.

572
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Speaker 1: The only way I was going to stop him was

573
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Speaker 1: by putting him to sleep. That's what he fucking did,

574
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Speaker 1: which is why he's number one pound for pound with

575
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Speaker 1: a bullet. So do you think this was actually, though

576
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: as close to a fight as that looked? Islam was

577
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: up three to one on one scorecard, but Chris Lee

578
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: had it to two entering that fifth round, doesn't creek

579
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Speaker 1: Chris leev a somewhat controversial judging name. And what was

580
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: the third scorecard? Was that?

581
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Speaker 2: Uh uh, I'd have to look, I don't know, okay,

582
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: So two judges had it three to one for Islam.

583
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Speaker 1: The other one had it too too. Yeah, So was

584
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Speaker 1: it actually as close as it looked in your eyes?

585
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: Well, let me when you say close, it's hard to

586
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: know what that means. And so what I would say

587
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: is I never really thought for the most part, again,

588
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: a couple of moments here or there, I never thought

589
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: Islam was in super big trouble. He's not a dynamic

590
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: puncher himself, so even when he's landing.

591
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: You don't know. Do you see what he did at Olivera?

592
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Olivera was jumping in the air when he

593
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: hit him, and then he finished him off with the

594
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: head and arm triangle, So again, well timed good. I mean,

595
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: the guy is fucking lethal. You can say that. I'm

596
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: just saying pound for pound in terms of punching power,

597
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: he can't match what Parier is doing. So what I'm

598
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: gonna say is this was it competitive?

599
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 4: Yes?

600
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: Certainly? Did Dustin Parier win at least a round, Yes, certainly?

601
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 2: And did he show dramatic takedown improvement and really gave

602
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: the champ a hard time? As it relates to that,

603
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: Let's be clear about it, BC, he made Islam go

604
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: five for sixteen. I think that's the worst wrestling performance

605
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: he's had in UFC IS and it is UFC run.

606
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: Here's the problem with that. He got five takedowns. He

607
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: got one in every single round. Yeah, and he outstruck

608
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: him at least numerically, I believe in every single round,

609
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: perhaps except with the exception of one, and then finished

610
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: him off in the end, but the skill he showed

611
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: along the way. Again, you fight heroes, They're not going

612
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: to love you in the fight game. But I really

613
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: believe people are late to the party, and I do

614
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: want to talk about pound for pound, and I do

615
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: want to talk about where he is alternate.

616
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Speaker 1: We'll get there. We'll get there for sure. I do

617
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: agree with you that I thought. I thought the after

618
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: market reactions were a little too harsh to the idea

619
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: of see much not who we told you he was. No,

620
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: he is that dude. You have to expect tough fights

621
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: against legends like this. It was tougher than expected because

622
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: Dustin's that gnarly and this is everything that's great about Dustin.

623
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: So I get you. I understand the idea of pushing

624
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: back against that because I agree with you. But Luke,

625
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: I do think it turned out really close. There were

626
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: moments where I felt like that Islam was one to

627
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: two more clean punches away from being in trouble. Can

628
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: we show a highlight that ESPN and May put out

629
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Speaker 1: on their Twitter account. I thought this was somewhat of

630
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: a turning point moment when Poorier screamed at Islam after

631
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: eating a punch and started coming back at him. We

632
00:26:53,040 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: run that long element. Look at him just just outright

633
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: scream at him, And who did that?

634
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: Tell me? What I'm looking at here? That tells you

635
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 2: that Parier is turning momentum. He's just yelling at him.

636
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: See that led though to sequences in which he landed

637
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: big punches there in rounds three and four. I gave

638
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: him round four, Luke, I'm sorry, No, I gave Potier

639
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: round two. You could have argued round four in his direction,

640
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: but I still thought entering that final round it was

641
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: a clean three to one. But what I'm saying is

642
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: Luke to act like it didn't look like he was

643
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: one or two punches away from changing the momentum of

644
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: that fight. There were a couple moments where I saw

645
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: Islam eat a few big shots and take a step

646
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: back Luke and have to change his strategy, have to

647
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: go more for takedowns. So Pourier shocked me in that regard.

648
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: I do think this fight was close, and I think

649
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: the reason why I can say that, the proof that

650
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: I have Luke tell me if you agree with this.

651
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: Did you see the celebration from team Nermagamedov. We'll get

652
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: into a turn. Have you seen this shit and what

653
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: happened to usman and all that, But his team hurtled

654
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: the fence and dove on him like he just hit

655
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: a buzzer beater to win the NBA Finals. Yes, they're

656
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: only doing that because they realized how close he was,

657
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: in my opinion to this being a fight that he

658
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: could have learnt that it was in the wrong direction or.

659
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 2: Was close to be so mean to cut you off.

660
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: I'll meet you halfway. Definitely, he had some adversity in

661
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: this fight, there's no denying. But the third round he

662
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: numerically outstruck Parier and then went one for one on takedown.

663
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: So one hundred percent also is credited in that particular

664
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: round with a submission attempt. The idea that the third

665
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: round demonstrates that there's like some change of momentum, it

666
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: just does not show up in.

667
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: Those moments when you saw yelling Poier was the moments where.

668
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: I turned the crowd off. The crowd off and just

669
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: watch what's happening. There's no shift at all. That's just

670
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: pure theater. That you're buying into.

671
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: Sorry, I saw his face get busted. Open my heart,

672
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: I find.

673
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: But there's also head clashes, sure, and a big elbow

674
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: that landed.

675
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: But don't like that that don't knock like there wasn't

676
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: a bend moment. Now, he never broke, and that's what

677
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: makee Matchev great.

678
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, bend moments for sure. I'm not saying it's

679
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: not competitive. I'm saying the opposite. It was competitive. But

680
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: like this idea that like Islam was clearly imperiled in

681
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: a moment like that, I don't see any true evidence

682
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: of it at all.

683
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: You also didn't think the bonus is that UFC three hundred.

684
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: He's not just complete fantasy. Let me make this point

685
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: because I keep forgetting and I want to get past it.

686
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: We had talked about this on Friday about Bohoshina and him.

687
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: Did they have staff? After the fight, It is revealed

688
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: by Islam Makachev he did in fact have staff, and

689
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: we called it exactly on Friday show. It looked like

690
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: he had it, but it may have been a little

691
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: while ago and he had gotten over it. Who let

692
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: me turn my volume off here with my wife getting pinged,

693
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: My wife texted me, did she ask you to pick

694
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: up eggs on the way home. No, she told me

695
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: she was proud of me, one thing you'll never do.

696
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: She's a really nice lady. I'm glad you found it.

697
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: Believe me me too.

698
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if I was stuck with you walking alone

699
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: in the desert, we ain't.

700
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: I think you're asking about the celebratory nature of what

701
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: had happened. Islam got tested fact and he persevered and

702
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: got the stop it. So there's jubilation about that. And

703
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: also I think that they probably had some concerns. Is

704
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: what apparently happened was he had gotten over it roughly

705
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: three weeks ago, but he had to take off an

706
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: entire week of training with less than you know, a

707
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: month before the fight, which is far from ideal. I

708
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: think that weight cut for him is tough no matter what.

709
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: You cannot afford to miss all that roadwork. So they're

710
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: probably relieved because they also clearly had some concerns about

711
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: how compromised he was in the end as well.

712
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: No, that's a very good point. We're gonna get into

713
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: Mahchev in the second topic about what's next, about the

714
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: pomp upon ranking and all of that. But to stay

715
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: with this in Topic one. One thing I don't think

716
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: you can argue is even though this is a very

717
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: good win for Mahchev and continues that streak I mentioned

718
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: fourteen in a row now too shy of the record

719
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: of Anderson Silva Luke, is this the end for Pourier?

720
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: He was noncommittal in the post fight interview, but and

721
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: we do have a clip to throw to it did

722
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: sound like he at least knows where his heart is at.

723
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: Let's react to this.

724
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 5: And I'm not one hundred percent, but if this is

725
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 5: my last fight, I wanted to dedicate this journey to

726
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 5: the people who maybe the man I am, and that's

727
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 5: the women in my life. So my grandmother, I miss

728
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 5: you every day and I know I'm still protected by

729
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 5: your prayers. To my mother, we've had a crazy life.

730
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 5: I love you, thanks for always having my back. And

731
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: to my wife, I love you so much. I wouldn't

732
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 5: be standing right here without you, Babe, Jolie.

733
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd be breathing honestly if it

734
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: went for you And to Parker Daddy's wine.

735
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 4: I love you so much.

736
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you.

737
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 5: Well, all right, baby, always change your dreams. It's a

738
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 5: beautiful things.

739
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: You're an incredible man, Dustin Poitier.

740
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for everything, Dustin Poier. Ladies and gentlemen, look,

741
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: I want to add on that. Anytime he was asked

742
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: during fight week whether this is the end, he got

743
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: emotion on, brought up his daughter, So you're a hashtag

744
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: girl dad, just like the late Kobe Bryant. Is this

745
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: going to be the end for Dustin poorie? From what

746
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: you saw right there, I hope because the dilemma is

747
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: he still got it, dude, he still got it.

748
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: Yes, he was competitive. He also said in that post

749
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: fight interview, it's not that I think or maybe in

750
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: the Postwight press conference, you know he can be competitive

751
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: with these guys. Yes, he was absolutely no doubt about it.

752
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: He was competitive, but he fell short. Again, is sort

753
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: of where it's at and given what you've achieved financially

754
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: and given what you've achieved in your career, yes, of

755
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: course that last hill to get the title remains. But

756
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: getting back here again, he was very clear about it

757
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: is too much. I would like to I would like

758
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: to see him go. And I say that not because

759
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: I actually want to see him go. But because what

760
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: did he say that was so clear And when you

761
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: hear these guys say it, you know it's coming. If

762
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: he sticks around a little bit longer, the game is

763
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: going to retire him, because that's what happens to everybody.

764
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: So he has taking a lot of punish. He's taking

765
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: a lot of punch. Well, let's be clear, is Dustin

766
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: Partyer as we talk today, is he washed?

767
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: No?

768
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: No, he is not far from it. But that's all

769
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: the more reason. If you can't get the title and

770
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: you've made money and your life is good and you're

771
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: not washed yet, it's a great time to go. Maybe

772
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: maybe he could sneak in one more. I know Volkanovsky

773
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: wants one.

774
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: Sure, So that's interesting. Volkanowski wants that at fifty five.

775
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: Some people are saying, hey, man, heel up trilogy with gage,

776
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: perfect celebrity action, big money fight to go out with.

777
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: He said one key thing at the beginning of that

778
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: interview with Rogan, he said, like, it's not about the money.

779
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: I've made the money and look, I mean he headline

780
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: two pay per views back to back against Connor McGregor,

781
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna be set for life in a lot of

782
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 1: ways after that he's done well with his money, he's

783
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: built up his charity. When I hear him talk about

784
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: his daughter, it leads me to believe that not only

785
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: does he want to spend more time with his family,

786
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: I think he wants to be there with them mentally,

787
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: and he knows the price of this and knows if

788
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: there's you know, there's not gonna be another title shot

789
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: around the corner, most likely, whether it be a BMF opportunity,

790
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: where would be a super fight? I mean, what if

791
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: connor Goes does come out there June twenty nine, then

792
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: blows away Chandler and then says, there's only one fight

793
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: left that matters to me. No, it's not Nate, it's you,

794
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: Dustin Poorrier. Does that get him up? I don't know, Luke,

795
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anything left that does get

796
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: him up at the end of the day, or should

797
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: there be? Thirty five bought the best fighter in the world,

798
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: did way better than we thought, won the night, won

799
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: the moment. This encapsulates who he is, never an underspeed

800
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: a champion. But it doesn't matter the rare guy who

801
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: can go into the Hall of Fame in the first

802
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: ballot without it, because of everyone. He be mixed with everyone.

803
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: He fought the way he's been an ambassador for the sport,

804
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: a true gentleman, a man's man. That's the what we

805
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: saw on Saturday night is the legacy of dustin Pooria.

806
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: That's exactly it right there, nothing more to add. You've

807
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: done it all, walk away in time.

808
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: This is and I want to say too, one more

809
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: thing very quickly, like we live in a space in

810
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: Mma and in the world more generally, where there's just

811
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: a lot of dudes who think that they're smarter than

812
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: women and they're more ethical and better than women, when

813
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: really they just have mommy issues and they haven't figured

814
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: it out. They're too fucking stupid.

815
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: This is some editorial at the fact that you found

816
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: out there's misogynistic videos and have you seen this shit?

817
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: No, it's not that. I just want to say for

818
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: a guy like Poarier, who is to your point, fighters fighter,

819
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: man's man, to say that the way he got strength

820
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: was from the women in his life. In a world

821
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: filled with these idiots who think that hating their mom

822
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: is a personality type, it is a refreshing thing to

823
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: hear and it's part of the journey that I've gone through,

824
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: and I have to say some of the to the

825
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: extent that I have any strength in the world these days,

826
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: it is also I feel like the women in my

827
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: life and so that really resonated with me. What a

828
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: fucking champ I question on.

829
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: This opening topic. Luke islam Maahachev at the postfight press

830
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: conference said, I think I saved this card today because

831
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: all these fights are boring in the arena was almost asleep,

832
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: is he right? Was this card on pace to kind

833
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: of be a stinker until that main event?

834
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: The card basically sucked with the people said that Kevin

835
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: Holland fight was fine.

836
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: And Luke loved that gay Yeah, fine, fair enough because

837
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: he was at the mile High Minute podcast probably and

838
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: just you know, probably made a big score, right, Yeah.

839
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: I would hope. I did have a bet on Kevin Holland.

840
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: There you go. See, So that was fine. That was

841
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: that was you know, reasonably gross and you know, short fight.

842
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: I feel like twking. It was a big night, tworking.

843
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: Eileen Pettez got the win. But in general that card

844
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: was terrible except for Kevin Holland was great and then

845
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: the main event was really great. So yeah, all right,

846
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: transition all right, b C, let's go to topic number two.

847
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 2: We stay with Islam Makachev, but the question is as follows.

848
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: After Saturday night, after UFC three oh two, does Islam

849
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 2: deserve an opportunity to compete for the welterweight title given

850
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: his post fight call out or BC is a one

851
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: to fifty five rematch with Armin Saryuki in the right

852
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: fight to make And I want to be a clarification

853
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 2: if I can before I bitch it to you, which

854
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: is Dana was not necessarily sold on the move up

855
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: and wait and the team have you know, I'll leave

856
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: it there.

857
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Dana ultimately said that, oh, we've never heard

858
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: this before from the team, even though Islam has said it,

859
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: he's consistently publicly said it. Or but here's the deal.

860
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: I did write Saturday for CBS Sports that I think

861
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: he deserves it, and I don't know if you can

862
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: argue against that when he's beat fourteen straight, when he's

863
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: got stoppage wins over you know, OLIVERA. Volkanovski now Dustin

864
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: Poier in this fight, and when you consider that, he

865
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: really is on his way to becoming one of the greats.

866
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: But Luke the time I've spent since writing that on Saturday,

867
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: and the facts that you just mentioned. I do think

868
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: he deserves it. But he deserves it after the armand

869
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: Serukian fight. Not only is that the right fight to

870
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: make a rematch of a fight that took place early

871
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: like day two for both of them in their UFC career,

872
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: very competitive fight, and look at who Arman has become

873
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: since then. And when you mix that with the fact

874
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: that there still is the logjam atop the Walts, not

875
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: a full logjam, but we've been waiting to see Leon

876
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: Edwards against Ballala to like finish that story for a

877
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: long time. Well that's got to happen. Then he got

878
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: SHOFCTT rock mon Off in the bullpen, who's just waiting

879
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: for his opportunity. I think you go to Islam And

880
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: Islam said, by the way, because a lot of people

881
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: think Islam doesn't want the rematch, because Lukey has been

882
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: on the record saying I don't like rematches. I already

883
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: we fought I beat him. I want new challenges. But

884
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: then he did say, look, Dana calls the shots. If

885
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: Dana wants me to fight him in a rematch, I'll

886
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: do that. I think that's what you tell him. Make

887
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: this rematch happen. Remember matchups thirty two, still in the

888
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: midst of his prime. But Luke, but that age of

889
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: no return is coming. And I don't necessarily mean thirty

890
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: five when you can no longer win a title at

891
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: Walter way to below unless your name is Tyron Woodley

892
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: or Rocky Pennington. But you don't recognize the women in

893
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: this debate, right does the stat effect women or No.

894
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: I five and over does, but it affects Pennington and Nunez.

895
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: But look, I saw mma on point Breakdown that it's

896
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: at age thirty three where you really start to see

897
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: the beginning of the decline. I want to see him

898
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: get that opportunity because what he has said, Luke Islam,

899
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: is that he measures greatness in a sense that we

900
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: can debate all we want, but those that have done this,

901
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: the two division champion, those that have left their natural

902
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: weight and done I don't think he's taking a shot

903
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: at at Obib when he said that. I just think

904
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: he's saying like, that's the mark of greatness. He wants

905
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: to get to that level. How few people have been

906
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: able to do that? Look, I think you just tell

907
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: him you beat Sara Yuki in this time, you get

908
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: that shot. I mean, could you imagine Islam moving up

909
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: and fighting Leon Edwards. I saw the early odds had

910
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: from some of the offshore books that Leon as a

911
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: slight favorite. The early odds had Islam as a flavorite

912
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: over Balla, which I think would be right if won

913
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: the championship, a flavorite. But Islam versus Shavkat for example,

914
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: or Rocky Edwards, It's just those are phenomenal fights. Luke,

915
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: this guy's too good, and I do no one talks

916
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: about it anymore. But do you remember that Islam they

917
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: kind of gave him the shaft and getting his first

918
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: title opportunity, and we thought it was secret conspiratorial payback

919
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: for Habib retiring when Dana kept taking him out for

920
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: dinner and trying to lure him back. Do you remember

921
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: that season? People forget that season ever happened? I forget

922
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: the season. Why is Matchev not fighting for the title

923
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: when he's won like eleven twelve in a row.

924
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: There was some opponent falling out issues.

925
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: Okay, the point is he's your number one pound for

926
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: pound in my opinion, with a bullet. We'll get to

927
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: the day of debate in a second, he has gone

928
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: his way to greatness as long as he hit hit

929
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: the next guy online, next guy in line, deserves it. Sorry,

930
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: you can take care of him, give him the opportunity.

931
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: It's easy.

932
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 2: I would say this. I have a lot more interest

933
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: in watching Islam fight Edwards, but I recognize what you recognize,

934
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: which is he's already got the bull All fight. We'll

935
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 2: see what happens with that. By the way, Ballall could

936
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: completely upend everybody's plans, and which case, what do you

937
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: do there? And then of course he'll have a rematch

938
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 2: again or a third fight technically with Bulall.

939
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: So that's that on the trilogy there.

940
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: I know I'm saying you could get it. You could

941
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: get it, or rock Monov is due. That's really where

942
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: we're at here. So, because there's this logjam, Islam just

943
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: doesn't neatly slide in and Saar yuki In it appears

944
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 2: to be the best contended that lightweight has right now.

945
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: The first fight was intriguing, it was sarryuki In's UFC debut.

946
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: He's obviously come a long way. That's the fight to make.

947
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: But BC, you kind of alluded to it. I'd like

948
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: to put the conversation a little bit forward here, which

949
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: is about pound for pound placement. Let's play what UFC

950
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 2: President Dana White said when he was asked about Islam's

951
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: place at number one and how he completely rejected the idea.

952
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 4: Here.

953
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: This is Saturday Night. Joe Rogan on the broadcast called

954
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: Islam the perfect lightweight and they're just the size and

955
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: style of fighting, just his fight. IQM curious, like, where

956
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: do you rank him in this pantheon of lightweights that

957
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: we've seen over the.

958
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's, you know, one of the greatest

959
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 6: of all time. I don't think he's I think he's incredible.

960
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 6: I don't think he's the pound for pound best fighter

961
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 6: in the world. For anybody to call Islam the pound

962
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 6: for pound past fighter in the world when John Jones

963
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 6: is still fighting his nuts and shouldn't be ranking in

964
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 6: the pound for pound or doing any of the rankings ever,

965
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 6: if that's what you really think. John Jones has never

966
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 6: lost a fight ever. He's fought all the baddest dudes

967
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 6: in the world. And then when you think about what

968
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 6: pound for pound rankings really mean, he moved up to

969
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 6: heavyweight and destroyed the best guy in the world as

970
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 6: long as John Jones is still fighting active and in

971
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 6: the rankings. Yeah, nobody's pound for pound best fighter in

972
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 6: the world.

973
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 3: What would it take for him to surpass John Jones

974
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: in your mind for that pound for pound number one?

975
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 6: I mean when you think about what pound for pound

976
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 6: really means, right, he fought Volkanovski, who's a way class

977
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 6: lower than him. John Jones beat everybody at light heavyweight,

978
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 6: then beat the best heavyweight in the division like it

979
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 6: was nothing at a higher weight class. So John Jones

980
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 6: is absolutely, positively the pound for pound best fighter in

981
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 6: the world, probably the greatest fighter of all time in

982
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 6: any sport. When you think about when you talk about

983
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 6: who's the baddest dude in the world, you put two

984
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 6: guys in a room, and who walks out? John Jones

985
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 6: walks out of the room every time, no question about it.

986
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and in no way trying to diminish Seawn's accomplishments.

987
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: But like, y know, he's fot but he's fought once

988
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: in the last how many years is Lom's fighting multiple

989
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: times a year defending? So, like, at what point does

990
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 3: activity outweigh Well.

991
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 6: It's beautiful, I like that you asked that question. Let's

992
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 6: talk about activity. Three years off. Nobody, not even Ali,

993
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 6: Nobody's ever come from three years off and looked the same.

994
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 6: John Jones walked through the heavy with the number one

995
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 6: guy in the heavyweight division like it was nothing with

996
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 6: three years off. Yeah, John Jones was the best ever ever.

997
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 6: And when I say ever, I mean in any combat sport.

998
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 6: He's the best ever. You throw John Jones in a

999
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 6: room with anybody, John Jones walks out of the room.

1000
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: There's a lot to unpacked. You see your reaction to

1001
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: what you.

1002
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: Just saw there. My god, he just doesn't understand pund

1003
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: for pound. So is John Jones the goat? Yes, he's

1004
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: the greatest fighter of all time. You can be the

1005
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: goat and be active, meaning you're still an active fighter,

1006
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: but you're not the pomp for palnd best at that moment.

1007
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean doesn't mean we're saying Islam's better than

1008
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: John all the time. Let's set that as one comment.

1009
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: The other comment is we're going to keep saying that

1010
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: John came back from three years and fought the best

1011
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: heavyweight in the world, Cyril Gan, who had already lost

1012
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: a title shot and then got out wrestled by a

1013
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: one legged man that never wrestled before, then only I

1014
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: predicted would wrestle, So let's be honest too clear about that. Also, guys,

1015
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: activity is a major calling card in how you identify

1016
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: pound for pound. The fact that John Jones has fought

1017
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: or I believe it was ninety four seconds of cage

1018
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: time since twenty.

1019
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: Twenty February twenty.

1020
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, ninety four seconds of cage time. And while I

1021
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: don't hold it against John winning the championship because Ngan

1022
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: Whu left and Cyril Gon laid an egg, he then

1023
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: has taken sixteen months off sixteen so outright alone, when

1024
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: you miss that much time, you typically get removed from

1025
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: pomp for pound rankings. To begin with, Dana went on

1026
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: and not captured in that clip, and by the way,

1027
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: shout out to Mike Bone of m My Junkie for

1028
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: pushing him on the On the activity part, it does matter, Dana,

1029
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: it really does. But the other part, Luke is is well.

1030
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: The other part is John Jones is actively ducking the

1031
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: real best heavyweight in the world at the moment after

1032
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: sitting out for three years and now fighting the other

1033
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: best heavyweight in the world, Francis and gotten another topic

1034
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: for another day, right there. But no, look, I don't

1035
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: understand that attack against It's not an attack. But look,

1036
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: he wasn't asked Islam's pomp for pomp place. He was

1037
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: at asked where Islam would fit in among the lightweight

1038
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: champions all time, and Dana jumped in to say, Dana,

1039
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: you're the guy who said John Jones would probably cut

1040
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: back cut down to one eighty five after Francis beat Stepe. Okay,

1041
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: let's remember that you're the guy that typically hates John.

1042
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: So now are we just doing it because John's coming

1043
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: back and you want to hype it up? Yes, as

1044
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: the po Okay, that's fine, I guess, But like, that's

1045
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: not how pomp for Pound works. John did move up

1046
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: and win at heavyweight. Congratulations to him. He's now actively

1047
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: avoiding the best heavyweight available to him and threatening retirement

1048
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: because of it. That stuff also does matter in my

1049
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: opinion in Pom for pound voting. Look, I know so

1050
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: many fans are going to go, guys, this is just

1051
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: media masturbation. No one cares about pomp for pound.

1052
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: I do.

1053
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: That's the only way you can actually judge who in

1054
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: the moment is the best fighter in the world and

1055
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: what it would mythically look like if they were in

1056
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: the same way class. I know that that's a crapshoot,

1057
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: but people are way off on pom for pound. They

1058
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: think only you're accomplished, get you there, or only this

1059
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: or only that. It's a combination of all of that.

1060
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: How good you look right now? Where you know all

1061
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 1: of that? John Jones not an active fighter in the moment,

1062
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: even though he's technically active. He's a great fighter, he's

1063
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. But Luke, we don't know

1064
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: a damn thing about who John Jones is anymore as

1065
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: a fighter because he moved up to heavyweight and fought

1066
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: for ninety four seconds against a guy who can't wrestle,

1067
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: So we don't actually know if he's still that guy.

1068
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: That's why pomp for palm matters. It's not your reputation

1069
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: that would leave you at number one or two. It's

1070
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: what you've done lately, and he hasn't done much lately.

1071
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: So I don't even know how this is remotely a debate.

1072
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: It just makes sense.

1073
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: It's not.

1074
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a bizarre take from Dana who

1075
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: I would say, I think again, you can say whatever

1076
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: you want about him. He is a real fight fan, sure,

1077
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: but like you know, it doesn't make any sense. His

1078
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: definition doesn't make any sense because if we're talking about

1079
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: ultimate accomplishment, irrespective of whether or not they are currently

1080
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: fighting or I have been off for a long time,

1081
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: Ali would still be at the pound for pound number one.

1082
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so no, So Luke, let's adjust that no

1083
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: one's ever come back from three years and look the same.

1084
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: GSP beat Michael bisbeing a division up after five years,

1085
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: so he look the same. He looked pretty damn good.

1086
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: Okay, good enough to get the belt.

1087
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: Domina Cruz set out for what was it three years

1088
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: and came back in and then came back and won

1089
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: the championship again over a prime pump for pound Dilla Shaw.

1090
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: So no, it's also we just again looking at the

1091
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: tape on God like the decisions he made in the

1092
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 2: grappling department were so amateurish. That's not John's fault, but

1093
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: it helps us. It requires us to grade what that effort,

1094
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: yes was appropriately so look by the way John had

1095
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: to take on us, I'm gonna get your take on

1096
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: this too. Put up John's tweet about this because he

1097
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 2: was bony, Bony, Yeah, bony John's uh. It felt awesome

1098
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,959
Speaker 2: to get that level of recognition from the boss. John said,

1099
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: the man that's literally been here since UFC.

1100
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: One, Well, he's been on this planet since you have.

1101
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: He has been on the planet since UFC one that

1102
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: we know of. I know the haters are not gonna

1103
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 2: like his comments, but Dana is a pretty hard person

1104
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: to argue with. No, he definitely isn't. Dana White has

1105
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 2: had a front row seat to my entire career. That

1106
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: is true as well. Again, I agree with you question

1107
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: about whether your where your accomplishment stands all time. It

1108
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: cannot mean the same thing as who is doing the

1109
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: most impressive work now.

1110
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: So maybe he's just trying to fight against all of

1111
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: the negativity surrounding Jones, because it's obvious that he's trying

1112
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: to avoid aspinall and threatening retirement, and it's obvious that

1113
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: the UFC would prefer that he fights Stepe for the

1114
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: business of it. So this is Danna coming out in front.

1115
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: But look, do you put any validation on what he

1116
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: says John Jones is the greatest combat sports athlete of

1117
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: all time because he is.

1118
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: He's not saying that's completely insane.

1119
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: He's not saying it under the complex, under the context

1120
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: of achievements. I don't believe. I believe he's just saying

1121
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: it under the idea of get all the best ever

1122
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: combat sports athletes in their prime. Put put them in

1123
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: the room. Who's coming out on top? Well, that's hard

1124
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: to say when you're comparing to boxing, because these guys

1125
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: aren't training mixed martial arts.

1126
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means. Like, put them

1127
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: in a room, what's in the room? Who all is

1128
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: going to be in the room at the same time?

1129
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: Probably cocaine. I'm okay with that, you know, Like he

1130
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: who's without syd cast the first stone is I like

1131
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: to say, over and over, But these things are like

1132
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: like that's a real science experiment that has happened in

1133
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: our mind, and therefore the results are valid. It doesn't

1134
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: mean anything. The only thing that matters is what you're

1135
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: a pomplishment is relative to what the demands of your

1136
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: sport are. This is the wrong time to make that

1137
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: the idea that he's the best Again, don't get me wrong,

1138
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: Do I think John's the best ever in mma? Probably? Probably? Yeah? Probably?

1139
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: But the reality is when you've got people who have

1140
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: you know, three or four Olympic gold medals. You know,

1141
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: so we're talking twenty plus years of dominance in a

1142
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: much more difficult sport with a much higher participatory rate. Yeah, no,

1143
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 2: it just you have to be realistic about this. MMA

1144
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: is a very, very insanely difficult sport. But that doesn't

1145
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: make it easy. How I'll triple C one and then

1146
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: two weight classes. That's also highly impressive, but that's not

1147
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 2: to me. If you've won three Olympic gold medals in judo,

1148
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here. That's so much harder

1149
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: to do. Anyway, different conversation BC, before we move on

1150
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: to the other parts of this card, one more question

1151
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: for you and we'll kind of talk about this, you

1152
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: know what. We can save this part till later. Yes,

1153
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: there's a conversation about all time best lightweights. Let's have

1154
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: that a little bit later in the show.

1155
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: Sure, let's keep the show moving right there, go to

1156
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: topic number three. It was our ufc CO main event

1157
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: and the rest of card three to oh two, and

1158
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: it was Sean Strickland keeping pace in the title picture.

1159
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: It's wearing a split decision in the end over Paulo Costa.

1160
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: The question really comes down to Luke. While Strickland seemed

1161
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: to be largely dominant, completely disarmed, Coasta took Costa away

1162
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: from any of the predictions I tried to make here

1163
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: about his evolution and the power he's gonna bring against Strickland.

1164
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: And shout out to Eric NICKXCK for lighting me up.

1165
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: In the IG.

1166
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: I deserved that in a big way their coach, So

1167
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: shout out right there. But Luke Thomas was Strickland impressive

1168
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: in outpointing Costa and really setting himself up for either

1169
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: a substitute title opportunity against DDP, a fight against out

1170
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: a signon, you know, fight against Trumps Whitaker, so many

1171
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: big opportunities for him. Was he impressive or boring slash underwhelming?

1172
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 1: Considering Sean did spend the entirety of fight week saying

1173
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna go out there, go dick to dick and

1174
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: bleed for you motherfuckers. He said that again and again

1175
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: and again. Say you about Sean Strickland here after this performance.

1176
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: This is why I mean sometimes completely ignoring what fighters

1177
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: say pre fight will get you into trouble because they'll

1178
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: really tell you something truthful. You're like, ah, they all

1179
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: talk nonsense and you'll miss it, but most of the

1180
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: time you'll be right. Actually, and I feel like this

1181
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: is one of those great opportunities. It's what they say

1182
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: pre fight you just have to put aside. Okay, I

1183
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: actually didn't like the fight like anybody else did, but

1184
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: I didn't hate it as much. I didn't hate it.

1185
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 4: Well.

1186
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: People were bitter about it online. I can say that,

1187
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: and for a very partisan crowd, because that's just what

1188
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 2: who goes to UFC shows. Now, they were booing him.

1189
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: They were booing him multiple or booing the fight anyway,

1190
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: multiple times in the course of that bout. I'm gonna

1191
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: say this, I actually do feel like Strickland was I

1192
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: don't know if impressive is the right word, but I

1193
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: do appreciate his performance actually a fair amount. In that

1194
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: Coast To fight, and in that DDP fight, you can

1195
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 2: argue he won either of them. Excuse me, all right,

1196
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: In that DDP fight, in that Canon Near fight, excuse me,

1197
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: you can argue that Strickland won either of them. But

1198
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: ultimately the judges disagreed, and we've talked about it. He

1199
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: came to a bit of a fork in the road

1200
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: in his career where what he had the problem with

1201
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: is yet excellent defense, but the defense he had constructed

1202
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: for himself required maximum blocking of punching lanes and more importantly,

1203
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: cross stepping into these huge retreats that made him hard

1204
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: to hit. And that is a very very impressive thing.

1205
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 2: Even if he's walking forward on you'd still these big

1206
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: retreats and getting out of the way motions. And they

1207
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: realized that's going to cost you against good fighters in

1208
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: close contests, and all of the contests that he's in

1209
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: against elite guys are close. So this fight you can

1210
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: tell that they really worked on it. Sean Strickland walked

1211
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: forward and at a bare minimum would either stop and

1212
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 2: absorb or just keep marching forward. You didn't see any

1213
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: of these big retreats that you have commonly seen in

1214
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: some of his other fights. Part of that is because

1215
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: Paul Acosta I just don't know what to make of

1216
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: his career too, just not to engage, right, We'll talk

1217
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 2: about that just a second. But to answer the question,

1218
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: I actually feel like watching him and his team problem

1219
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 2: solve is kind of interesting.

1220
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: I fully agree. So this is the boxing fan of

1221
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: me coming out Luke. Okay, but like this is the

1222
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: same I'm not comparing him to Floyd Mayweather, but this

1223
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: is the same debate after like a Floyd Mayweather fight,

1224
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: in which there was a lot of big talk, You're

1225
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: hoping there's gonna be action, and then Mayweather goes in

1226
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: there and scientifically disarms his opponent to the point where

1227
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,959
Speaker 1: they were not. Strickland to maywea where they're no longer trying.

1228
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing their levels or even their styles or whatever,

1229
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: but the whole thing is, as a boxing fan during

1230
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: that stretch, I had to come out of their saying

1231
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: two things. One, Floyd Mayweather's freaking brilliant and the hardcore

1232
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: fan of me loves watching him diagnose and dissect these people.

1233
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: But two, no one's ever gonna argue that he's an

1234
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: exciting athlete. So if the negativity against Strickland here is

1235
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: an argument that we just need to wake up he's

1236
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: no longer an exciting fighter. Okay, I mean you can't

1237
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: really argue against that. The crowd was booing it wasn't

1238
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: a great fight, but I don't think it was his

1239
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: fault that it wasn't a great fight. I agree. I

1240
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: thought he was actually intentionally looking to put more punches together,

1241
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: looking to take some of them and now in the end,

1242
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: But I think what happened in the end was he

1243
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: just got a guy who wasn't going to exchange with him.

1244
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: So he says in his mind, I'm in it for

1245
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: the money in the title shot, right, That's what he said. Afterwards,

1246
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: I'm in it for the money, and the title shot

1247
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 1: gives you more money, so I'm in it for the title. Luke,

1248
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: this was a fight to protect that. In the end,

1249
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: he claims he was doing the company a solid. There

1250
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: were a lot of us who were saying, look, why

1251
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: is he going backwards in the rankings and giving coast

1252
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: to this fight? That kind of means more to coast

1253
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: his career in the sense that he can kind of

1254
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: double down on his stock if he got a big

1255
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: win there and suddenly he's in the title picture. For Strickland,

1256
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 1: it did become about maintenance, and it did become about

1257
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: surviving and advancing. If this dangerous guy is not going

1258
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: to come out and do the things I thought he would,

1259
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: why should Strickland force him to do that. I thought

1260
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: Strickland picked certain moments where he did try to bring

1261
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: in the offense, but at the end of the day, dude,

1262
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: you got to survive in advance if your goal is

1263
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: to is to win championships, because so you can win money, Luke,

1264
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: You're not going to get there by brawlin all the

1265
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: time in enticing the fans. I think, at the end

1266
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: of the day, if Strickland has an opponent who can

1267
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: get through his defense and force him to fight, he's

1268
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: willing to fight. Where I was wrong, and I was

1269
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: way wrong. I didn't think that at this point he

1270
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: was going to continue to escalate his game, that he

1271
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 1: was going to continue. I didn't think he would play

1272
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: this patient of a game. I was wrong. I miscalculated

1273
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: exactly where Strickland's head is at in this fight against

1274
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: a guy that was ranked in the other direction that

1275
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: he did look he looks world class in this and

1276
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: I applaud him for that. The question is, though, does

1277
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: the performance in a crowded title picture end up holding

1278
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 1: him back?

1279
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: That's the question, I honestly think the performance and then

1280
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 2: also again, the fan base loves his bold statements of

1281
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 2: his political preferences, and even though there is symmetry with

1282
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: how it's seemingly the organization or Dana White feels, they

1283
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: don't seem to like each other. I think, honestly, who

1284
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: the president or CEO anyway, who they like and who

1285
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: they don't, whatever their reasons, That of course is going

1286
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: to play a role, maybe not the most determinative one,

1287
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: but it will play one. But I would challenge something

1288
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: you said a little bit BC, which is, you know

1289
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: you blame Costa. I blame Costa probably more than definitely

1290
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 2: more than I blame strictly in for that fight being boring.

1291
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: And they've read wine in the corner what happened.

1292
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what is going on with his career.

1293
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: He just appears to be going nowhere.

1294
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: And I saw he put out after the fight. I'm

1295
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: gonna bring back the old one. Yeah, he's like Dana

1296
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: and Rogan are right, And honestly, I understand the logic.

1297
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: The logic is like, if I'm going to lose, at

1298
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: least I'm going to lose an exciting way. But now

1299
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: he's lost, it's not you're losing and you're getting beaten

1300
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: thoroughly by better guys, and in certain cases it's not

1301
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: even entertainment.

1302
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: But I didn't like is. Afterwards, Coaster said, yeah, my

1303
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: game plan was to outpoint him, and I was wrong

1304
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: even though I talked up.

1305
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: But don't you understand him wanting to be at least

1306
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 2: initially wanting him to be himself, to be more than

1307
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: a brawler. I can appreciate it when.

1308
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: It's not working in a certain fight, and he had

1309
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: five rounds to deal with he kind of.

1310
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 2: Make we should also say in strictly's case. Again, I'm

1311
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: not saying I necessarily feel this way, but people being like, oh, well,

1312
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: you know, Costa was was boring, and if your opponent

1313
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: is constantly backing up and not engaging, there's actually only

1314
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: so much you can do. However, this looked like a

1315
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 2: lie of Sean Strickland fights where he's walking, he's got

1316
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: this sort of forward facing Philly schell. He's stomping with

1317
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: forward kicks, getting out of the way, putting up traffic.

1318
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: And then this time he caged cut a little bit

1319
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: as the fight went on and put a little bit

1320
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: more offense on the back end of it. And I

1321
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: appreciate that from him. He at least tried and did

1322
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: I think elevate his game. Sure, However, he brings a

1323
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: quotient of boring this to this that can simply not

1324
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: be denied. To put it all on Costa is unfair.

1325
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: Maybe the majority, but certainly not all of it.

1326
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: All right, that's fair. Well, let's talk about what Strickland

1327
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: said afterwards, Luke. He recognized that he felt he did

1328
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: the company a solid in taking this coast to fight.

1329
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: When he feels that because the majority of the decision

1330
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: lost to DDP was so close, and Shawn felt he won,

1331
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: sort did a lot of fans that he should have

1332
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: got the rematch. He's upset that Izzy, who he beat,

1333
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: seems to be the guy who's going to get the rematch. So, Luke,

1334
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: if it plays out like this DDP versus Izzy later

1335
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: this year, we know in June we've got chamayav versus

1336
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: former champion Robert Whittaker strictly and said, I have secured

1337
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: a title shot with this performance. I will wait until

1338
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: I get that. Is that the right move at his age?

1339
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: Sure?

1340
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: Because he's gonna have to wait out DDP versus Izzy.

1341
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: There's obvious potential if iss he wins back the belt

1342
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: that that could be a big money rematch. If Hamza

1343
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: or Robert Whitaker wins big after Strickland not like he

1344
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 1: looked very good, but he didn't thrill anybody. I gotta

1345
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: believe they're going to go with the hot hand, whether

1346
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: that's former champion Whittaker or tremaiav right, you're gonna do that.

1347
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is he may have to miss

1348
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: two title cycles to sit out.

1349
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: Is this the right call if that's what he wants?

1350
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you say the right call, A right call

1351
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: for who?

1352
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 1: Right call for Sean Strickland at his age?

1353
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: No, No, I know what you mean, but it's dude,

1354
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: if you don't want to fight that much, why should

1355
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: you fight that much?

1356
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: Will he lose anything? Saying to the company, I am

1357
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: waiting for my title shot. I will not accept anybody.

1358
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: I think you can ask the question is is this

1359
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: strategy going to be effective in getting what he wants?

1360
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: Sitting around? Is that going to be an effective thing?

1361
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: I don't think that it will be. The The division

1362
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: tends to move quickly, the UFC tends to favor people

1363
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: who are active versus not. Dude. You can argue he

1364
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 2: got a title shot in Australia against Izzy because he

1365
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: had stepped in on so many short notice fights previously.

1366
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: He kind of felt like he was good for it.

1367
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: Now to dial it back. I'm not mad at him

1368
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: for it, but I don't know if that's going to

1369
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: serve his interests in getting the kind of fights that

1370
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: he wants.

1371
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: Fair point, do you think he is deserving of cutting

1372
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: that line at all?

1373
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna say this. I do think he is,

1374
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: and I'll say it because we'll see what happens with

1375
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: Whittaker and Hamsat later this month. That could be a

1376
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 2: completely different wildcard. If Hamza goes in there and smokes him,

1377
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: forget it, dude, Shawn's gonna get leapfrogged instantly. But we'll see.

1378
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's going to happen, but I'll

1379
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: say this. I he clearly beat Izzy, and I upon

1380
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: review thought he beat DDP as well. He was in

1381
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: those fights. Yeah, I wouldn't. I don't think his case

1382
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: is bad for it, whether or not the UFC agrees.

1383
00:58:59,120 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: Different matter.

1384
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: By the way, I mentioned that Chris Lee had the

1385
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: ore A Mahache fight two two going into the fifth.

1386
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: Did you see the video? I didn't have time to

1387
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: grab it. Where Cormier's in the locker room afterwards talking

1388
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: to Habib and each location. Yeah, yeah, Hipby was like

1389
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: test semi location of the judge to tell me where

1390
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: he lives and when to go get him, Luke. There

1391
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: was another judging controversy in this Coasta versus Strickland fight,

1392
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: and that was judge Dave Terrelli scoring four rounds to

1393
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: one forty nine forty six for Costa. Let's hear Daniel

1394
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: White's thoughts on it.

1395
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 5: Uh Kyle made a man Shawan Strickland beat Porta Costa

1396
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 5: Threo's kind of a weird judge school cut in that

1397
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 5: they gave its port.

1398
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 6: I think that wasn't weird. It was fucking nuts, is what.

1399
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 6: It was insane That guy should never ref a big

1400
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 6: fight again. They should kick him back down to the

1401
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 6: minor leagues and let him work on his UH, on

1402
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 6: his judging. It's unbelievable. I mean how anybody who isn't

1403
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 6: an absolute fucking lunatic could could call that fight a

1404
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 6: split decision. I don't even know what to say about that.

1405
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 6: It's it's it's insane that guy shouldn't be judging big fights.

1406
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: Is there an kicks of Coasta in any of these?

1407
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: I gave him round one because of the damage of

1408
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 2: the leg kicks I did so, but then after that

1409
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: it's still forty nine to forty six on Striplin. It's

1410
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: let me just say two things though, be like, oh,

1411
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: that's a split decision. Guys. When the judges turn it in,

1412
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: they don't turn in I have a split decision. They

1413
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: turn in whatever the card is, and then they add

1414
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 2: it up and it either is or it isn't. That's one.

1415
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 3: Two.

1416
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: I understand that if you have like fifty forty five

1417
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: fifty forty five and then forty nine forty six the

1418
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 2: other way, people go what the fuck? In the ten

1419
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: point must system, that's that's possible. That is possible. You

1420
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: can see if they have close rounds in each way,

1421
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: it is possible for one judge to see it one

1422
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: way versus the other.

1423
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: Even if two saw it, or A over B, you

1424
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: can still have B over A. I always remind you

1425
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: they're on an island, they're not on Twitter, they're not

1426
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: looking to other people. Just want to make that No, No,

1427
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: it's possible. But Luke, when this happens, when someone gets robbed,

1428
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: we then open up the podcast going what do we

1429
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: do do We had another judge, We got a problem here.

1430
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: This was a situation where the right guy won both fights,

1431
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: so it didn't matter, yes, but it did give Joe

1432
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: Rogan and people who believe in open scoring in MMA

1433
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: a platform to continue to push that I really don't

1434
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: want open scoring sucks.

1435
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: And Joe also wants people to fight in a football field,

1436
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: which is a remarkably bad idea.

1437
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: In a football field.

1438
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: He wants an open space like he doesn't want walls

1439
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: to go up against.

1440
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 3: It, like.

1441
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: Cot anywhere match in WW where you're like brawling in

1442
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: the locker room.

1443
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 4: No no, no, no.

1444
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: Imagine you had to fight on a surface where you

1445
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: couldn't take someone down against the wall because there is

1446
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 2: no wall. It's so big that you have to just

1447
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: have to wrestle them in the middle, have to fight

1448
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: them in the middle.

1449
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: It's tough because MMA fighters believe if you keep going

1450
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: past the walls that aren't there. But eventually the flat

1451
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: earth just falls off and like you know, they'll just

1452
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: be floating out in space. With Lea during episode eight, right,

1453
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: that was great.

1454
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: She was the force bro She got back in there.

1455
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: By the way, after seeing Doune now a couple of times.

1456
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: I see I'm mad at you. I don't even want

1457
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: to hear your analysis. Because you could have seen it

1458
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: in the theater. You could have seen it. And I'm

1459
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: after watching.

1460
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: Dune, I realized that Star Wars is due for morons.

1461
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, for kids, for free. Star Wars is Dune for morons.

1462
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: That's what that is.

1463
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thomas is right, okay, And by

1464
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: the way, congratulations on Real Madrid.

1465
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Real Madrid. They won.

1466
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: But Luke, you are under fire from your own people.

1467
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: They're upset at you for quitting your stream at halftime.

1468
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 2: No I had to. I mean the audience bailed. Yeah,

1469
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: it didn't work.

1470
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: You couldn't break down great passes from Dobby Rayos and

1471
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 1: the homos and uh wonder Ken Michael Owen.

1472
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 2: Here's the problem.

1473
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: The problem. There's are many problems.

1474
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: One of them was I only watch Madrid games. I

1475
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: don't watch any other team, well DC United on occasion. Okay,

1476
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 2: so I didn't know shit about the other team, like,

1477
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: didn't know anything. I knew they were good, but I

1478
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 2: didn't know anything about them. It didn't make for it

1479
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: didn't make for a great viewing experience, which I understand.

1480
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna tweak it and come back and we're

1481
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: gonna try again. But that one you know, hey, they.

1482
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: Can all be well wait, I'm you've got some balls

1483
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: to try to break into other areas. What about a

1484
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: breakdown video of whether the w NBA should protect Caitlin Clark.

1485
01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: Is that coming into your trow?

1486
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: They're just beating the fuck her. It's amazing. I guess

1487
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: they like flying on spirit airlines.

1488
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 3: Huh.

1489
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: There you go?

1490
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: All right, all right, BC, let's talk a little bit

1491
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: of boxing, because I do that.

1492
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: I do that. Yeah.

1493
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: So they had the five by five or the five

1494
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 2: versus five tournament or you know, showdown essentially between Queensberry

1495
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: and match Room in Saudi Arabia. Again, two big heavyweight

1496
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 2: contests in two weeks down there. We're not gonna talk

1497
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: about the whole entire cards, the whole five verses five,

1498
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: but let's start at the top. Deontay Wilder gets polished

1499
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: off by Big Bangjang. He got banged, and BC we

1500
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: sought against Joseph Parker. Deontay Wilder looked at best disinterested.

1501
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: He came back.

1502
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: There was a seventy pound difference at the weigh ins.

1503
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 2: He looked even skinnier than before. He looked just as

1504
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: disinterested this time. So the question to you is this

1505
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: is Deontay Wilder done?

1506
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1507
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1508
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: Or the answer that I'm gonna give you is he

1509
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: should be, and I don't take delight in it, and

1510
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: I do like that there have been some boxing people

1511
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: because the knee jerk reaction from everybody is oh great.

1512
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: Wilder never beat anybody. He's always sucked guys. He won

1513
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: a bronze medal in the Olympics after boxing for like

1514
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: a year, so let's give him some flowers. He made

1515
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: like ten defensive is defensive as his WBC title, So

1516
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: he's done some things. But that guy's not coming, you know,

1517
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: Larry Bird's not walking through that locker room anymore. Rick Pertino, Luke,

1518
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: it's over. And I had a good friend reach out

1519
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: to me and say, like what, like, how do you

1520
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: know what makes a guy wash?

1521
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: Luke?

1522
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: I think there's three reasons or three signs of when

1523
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: it's when it's done. And a guy won his chin,

1524
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: and that's the easiest one, right when somebody can no

1525
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: longer take shots, that wasn't the case here. Two is is,

1526
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: in my opinion, when your body falls apart, either you

1527
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: lose your legs because you're too old, or you know,

1528
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: injuries whatever, but Luke, three is failure to launch, an

1529
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: inability to let your hands go to see in front

1530
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: of you where the openings are, and just unable to

1531
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: connect the dots to will yourself like you used to,

1532
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: out of fear of getting knocked out, out of lack

1533
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: of belief in your skills, out of whatever. This was

1534
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: sad because this was twice now in what a six

1535
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: month span, that the great Deontay Wilder came out there.

1536
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: Luke I predicted last week during the show. It was

1537
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: Friday before the Way and before I saw the results

1538
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: that I'm like, you know, I'm really feeling really just

1539
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: a few days ago, I'm really feeling Wilder here, Luke.

1540
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: The second I saw the results of the Way, and

1541
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: I was texting everybody, I knew, flip that prediction. Why

1542
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: because when Wilder's going to come in at two fourteen

1543
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: and have legs that are skinnier than mine, right, I mean,

1544
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: there's a reason, Luke, I wear Jean's a lot in

1545
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: the winter in public, you know what I mean. I

1546
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: don't have that muscularity. I'm working on it. He's worse

1547
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: than I off I am on there. But Luke was, no,

1548
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: it's not just to say, oh he's washed. He wouldn't

1549
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: let his hands go. That was a big part of it.

1550
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: The thing that was the biggest scare for me that

1551
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: I knew it was over for a wild there was

1552
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: there was nothing to his game plan and look say, oh,

1553
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: there's never everything to his game plan. No, put some

1554
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: respect on him. Is he known as a guy with

1555
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: the one big punch and it scales him out of

1556
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: fights that he's losing. Yes, but that's almost a calculated thing.

1557
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: He's He's always been a smarter guy than people realize.

1558
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: To set up the shots, there were no setups to

1559
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: the shot, never committed to the jab a couple of times,

1560
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: threw it out there, nothing really beyond keeping the left

1561
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: hand out, setting up the right and just bringing it.

1562
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: But it was so predictable young can see it coming

1563
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: all the time. He big bang did get hurt that

1564
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: one time, but while they couldn't capitalize on it, he

1565
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: used to at least use that left hand to set

1566
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: up the right hand. It was just to like stalk

1567
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: around and throw that one punch that everybody knew was coming. Done, done, done.

1568
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't take joy and delight and a guy who

1569
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: has been great for the sport in the division. A

1570
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: guy who really has such an underrated story that nobody

1571
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: ever wants to talk about and celebrate that he was

1572
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: stocking shelves in a grocery store overnight at like age

1573
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,479
Speaker 1: eighteen and daughter had spine of Biffita realized I needed

1574
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: money to pay for it, decided to take a boxing

1575
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: and wins a bronze medal at the Olympics and goes

1576
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: on to have the career he has. But Luke, it's over.

1577
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: Let's look at this replay that does don't put on

1578
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: social media. Luke, it was a really bad ending where

1579
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: Wilder got rocked. He actually got spun around. But if

1580
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: you can see why he got rocked right there on

1581
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: that check right hook and then just a disastrous ending.

1582
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: He beat the count. He looked like he was not steady,

1583
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,959
Speaker 1: but Luke, it was gonna be the same or worse

1584
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,479
Speaker 1: if they let this fight go. It was this about

1585
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: the sixth round that this happened. Fifth round. But the reason,

1586
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: another reason, Luke, why I felt really confident was not

1587
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: only did Wilder coming at two fourteen, which was sixty

1588
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: nine pounds lighter than Jang Jen came in eleven pounds

1589
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: lighter than he was against Joseph Parker just a couple

1590
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: months ago. So that showed that he got back in there. Look,

1591
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: what's Big Bang's biggest issue? Always stamina, always cardio. Right,

1592
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: he put the cardio back on board. He obviously had

1593
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: a fighter against him who shouldn't be in there. Big

1594
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: Bang handled his business. But undoubtedly the story here is Wilder. Luke,

1595
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: Please tell me, Please tell me he's not going to

1596
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: get offered like Enganu to come back. Because the weird

1597
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: part about this was Wilder already has a fight scheduled

1598
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: August third, LA, the first Turkey Ala Chic Saudi Arabia

1599
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: card on US soil. He's supposed to fight what nineteen

1600
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: and oh Jared, big baby Anderson. That can't happen, Dude,

1601
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: I cannot.

1602
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: Anderson took to social media to say he doesn't want

1603
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: that fight anymore. He wants body jails. Honestly, I don't

1604
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 2: know if the commission will even clear him. I mean,

1605
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: he got I know that Wilder stood up and contested

1606
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: the referee's decision to stop it, but it was a

1607
01:07:56,120 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: good call. Wilder got saved from a truly vicious non out.

1608
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 2: In the end, there he's completely done, and I'm so

1609
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: glad that you said it's not. There are so many

1610
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 2: people who want to take these last two fights and

1611
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: some other ones as well, but in particularly these last

1612
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: two as a reason to dunk on Deontaey for being

1613
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 2: not necessarily that technical or a late comer, or you know,

1614
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: some kind of imposter who doesn't belong among the boxing elite.

1615
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: But he forced his way in the door. As you mentioned,

1616
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: you don't make.

1617
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: Nine or ten heavyweight title defenses in any era, yeah,

1618
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: if you don't have it.

1619
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 2: He made a ton of money. He had our was

1620
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 2: one half of one of the best heavyweight trilogies you'll

1621
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: ever see. For all of his faults, I think he

1622
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: helped bring back the spotlight on American heavyweight boxing. He

1623
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 2: obviously will go down, and this is true. He will

1624
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: go down as one of the heaviest punchers in boxing history.

1625
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 2: He's got a bunch of kids, his life is good.

1626
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 2: He doesn't need to do this anymore. We started the

1627
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 2: show talking about Connor, and Connor's got other issues that

1628
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: appear to be related to substance abuse or potentially more

1629
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 2: than just that. But we were asking why the fuck

1630
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 2: are you still fighting. You've got a what is it

1631
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: a Ferrari or Lamborghini yacht? Go park that thing at

1632
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: Monaco and go go, get go, get blown on the

1633
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: deck in the sunlight while someone feeds you. Caviare like,

1634
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 2: why are you still doing this? And in the case

1635
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: of Deontay, he has that financial security. Dude, why would

1636
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: you go fly to Saudi Arabia to go get banged

1637
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 2: by Jang when you he thinks he still has it.

1638
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: He really wanted to believe that, but it is so

1639
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 2: clearly not the case. And I want to say two things.

1640
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 2: People point out that it might be the relationship or

1641
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 2: excuse me, I should say that what happened in those

1642
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: three Fury fights getting stopped the way he did, especially

1643
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 2: in the second the third.

1644
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, the second one, to remind you, was when he

1645
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: came out with that large suit and blamed it on

1646
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: the suit, blamed conspiratorial things on to Fury. That's the

1647
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: turning point, right fires Mark really never.

1648
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 2: Okay, So that definitely played a role. But I also

1649
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 2: think in addition to the ayahuasca and just getting older

1650
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: as a man forty years old, yeah, your priorities and

1651
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 2: you in your biology just changes the fight that he

1652
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 2: stretched the former sparring partner, uh Henius Hellnius. I think

1653
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 2: it fucked him up.

1654
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: Do you see that video people are put on social

1655
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: media of Wilder at the presser after when he knocked

1656
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,799
Speaker 1: out Hellnius in the first round, crying.

1657
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 2: How about the video where he goes to Helenius's hotel

1658
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 2: room and is effusive with apology and asking how he's doing.

1659
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: This is a man he cared about and then for

1660
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 2: the purposes of the fight, he had to stretch him.

1661
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: This is a man who wanted to catch a body

1662
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: more than anything and was trying to revive that narrative.

1663
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 2: That guy brought us a lot of delight and even

1664
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: though he might have been flawed, that guy is gone.

1665
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: And you know what, BC, that's totally okay.

1666
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: He got everything out of prize fighting that you basically

1667
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 2: basically want. He got his flowers in Alabama when they

1668
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: put up the statue of him in his hometown, in

1669
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: his home state, and he.

1670
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: Open mouth kissed us and he just weirdly made love

1671
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 1: to his own statue. But it's over. It's okay that

1672
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 1: it's so over. Super fight, right, No, Like we're not

1673
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: doing anything crazy.

1674
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 2: I have zero interest in it? Engan who super Flying?

1675
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: What do you quickly quick aside on this? Remember there

1676
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,560
Speaker 1: was like rumors that wild there might be LA for

1677
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: PFL and like fight a Diaz brother or something crazy.

1678
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: We don't need that either. I don't have time, dud Deonta.

1679
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: You've made so much money, You've done so much for

1680
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 2: yourself and your family. I'm being serious when I see this, Dude,

1681
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: go enjoy it, Go enjoy your family, Go enjoy your money,

1682
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 2: Go enjoy your security. You can lay your head on

1683
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 2: the pillow at night knowing, dude, you you changed everybody's life,

1684
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 2: including yours and everyone around you. Congratulations. Don't get fucked

1685
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: up anymore against guys who are in a different place

1686
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: than you are.

1687
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, how fired up would you be if the

1688
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,560
Speaker 1: August third replacement? And I do want to remind you,

1689
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 1: August third is that first saudy pay per view card

1690
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: in La on us soil. But it did take a

1691
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: hit because Tim Zou that cut that he had against

1692
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: Fundor It's how bad that cut is pulled him out

1693
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: of the really good fight with uh Virgil Orchies Junior

1694
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: still a loaded card. Crawford Madrimov at the top of it.

1695
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 1: If they subbed in big bang Jang versus Jared Anderson,

1696
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: you know on that it's good fight.

1697
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: Sure, I take that. I mean Jared Anderson's he used

1698
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 2: every drug imaginable.

1699
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: But you know, isn't that big baby the other big

1700
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 1: baby drum milk Oh.

1701
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Anderson was the one that's got the head

1702
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: issues from top rank. He like mental issues.

1703
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well he drove away from the cops

1704
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: in a high speed chase.

1705
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 2: Right yeah, okay, very quickly, I want to move this along,

1706
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 2: But there are other things on this car we do

1707
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 2: have to talk about very quickly. How about the resurgence

1708
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: of Daniel Dubois. Okay, Jack, So he gets his ass

1709
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 2: kicked kind of early through the first i'd say five

1710
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: rounds or so. Hervic Hrkovic is lighting him up.

1711
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: Vacant. Was that the interim IBF title fight then?

1712
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: But Dubois stands his ground, keeps staying in his face,

1713
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: keeps on the pressure. And I want to say this too,

1714
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 2: be see tell me if I'm wrong. This was a

1715
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: guy that other people in England, the boxing community to

1716
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 2: an extent, lots of folks said was a quitter. Not

1717
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: that tough obviously, you know can be. It was Joe

1718
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: Joyce broke his face right and there were questions about

1719
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 2: his toughness. He took monster punches and finished this dude off.

1720
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: Granted got stopped with cuts in the end, but it

1721
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 2: was the beating that he turned back on Herkovic, this

1722
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: is the best win of his career. He has affirmed

1723
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: his place at near the top of the sport, and

1724
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 2: I think redeemed himself dramatically with him.

1725
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: And you love to see it because of everyone that

1726
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: said those bad things about and everybody that you know.

1727
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: It turns out after the Joe Joyce not got lost.

1728
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: We found out how brutal the break on his eyes,

1729
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: hocket was to see him bounce back. Luke that by

1730
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: the way, that victory that Alexander Usik had over Dubois

1731
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 1: right where Dubois hit him with what was called the

1732
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: low blow but did drop him with the body shot.

1733
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: Not only does that victory now get elevated for Usik

1734
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: because Dubois got into this level of shape and came

1735
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: back and won this, but it elevates, it almost elevates

1736
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 1: Duo was like critical standing because now you look back

1737
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: and you're like Look at the trouble he gave Usik right,

1738
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 1: look at the resurgence here. Talk about the reward for this, Luke,

1739
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: I mean, look, what was Saudi Arabian boxing fan kind

1740
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 1: of hoping for that while there would knock out Jang

1741
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: and then we go right to an AJ fight. Now

1742
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: it's looking, Luke like Daniel Duboa versus Anthony Joshua and

1743
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: you had Turkey Alasik saying let's do it in a

1744
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: soccer stage, and let's do at London Wembley Stadium. Luke,

1745
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: that sounds like an eighty k type event. You pack

1746
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: eighty eighty k people in there, you get a big

1747
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: event that's going to be a slugfest. That's a good

1748
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: ass fight. And I don't care if you make it

1749
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: for the interim or the real IBF for or just

1750
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: the idea of the winner of this is going to

1751
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,879
Speaker 1: fight the winner of Usik versus Fury too in December.

1752
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: This was a good development for the division.

1753
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: This was this was a great development. He's only twenty

1754
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 2: six years old, so nice to have a young guy

1755
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 2: early or I should say mid mid twenties at this

1756
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 2: point and have this again redemptive response. He's now a

1757
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 2: champion or interim or whatever at for the IBF, so

1758
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: he is entitled to all these big fights. You can

1759
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: do so much with a guy who is who has

1760
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 2: all of those aforementioned characteristics or is at different places.

1761
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 2: You have to love it. And again, I don't think

1762
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 2: her this did pop a little bit of the bubble

1763
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 2: around him where don't you feel like some people were

1764
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 2: treating him as like, oh, he might be that next

1765
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: thing in the division.

1766
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: We had questions.

1767
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm not, and I know he beat

1768
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 2: Jaying and that one was also kind of so close

1769
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 2: that people kind of downgraded him afterwards. He's still great,

1770
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 2: but I feel like he might have come back to

1771
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 2: earth a little bit.

1772
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: So the question a lot of people had when we're

1773
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: talking about like where do we go next on it,

1774
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: and we just laid it out right that the big

1775
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: fights available Joseph Parker because he just beat Jang against

1776
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: Hergovic he no hell and Joseph Parker just beat Jang

1777
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: and Deontay Wilder in like the last six months. He

1778
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: seems to be the odd man out who deserves a

1779
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: big fight. So if we're gonna do Jang versus Jared

1780
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: Anderson potentially, and we're definitely doing Usik Fury too, and

1781
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: we look to definitely be doing Dubois versus AJ. What

1782
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: should Joseph Parker's reward be beyond them shoving him on

1783
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,560
Speaker 1: the his own staff and giving him a lot of

1784
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 1: announcing games.

1785
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how to do that. I don't know

1786
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: how to, Matt, you have to tell me. I don't

1787
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: know how to.

1788
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: I know, I'm trying to think of of what reward

1789
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: will be. Either way, it's a good, good problem to

1790
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: have to have so many, you know, active viable heavyweights.

1791
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: At this moment, I wanted to comment quick on the

1792
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: Dizone braw cast here they got to get better pacing.

1793
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 2: Look, I look, it's a Saudi thing. I don't think

1794
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 2: that's I don't know.

1795
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Like, it's hard for me to complain

1796
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: about this out loud, because what are my career ambitions

1797
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: to work on boxing broadcasts and be a talking head?

1798
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: But look, do they need sixteen talking heads on there?

1799
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 1: They need four different sets of three or four people

1800
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: that they just rotate too between fights. I just mean

1801
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: there was a lot of fill time. And while I

1802
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: understand that the idea of Eddie Hearn versus Frank Warren

1803
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: was certainly aimed more at the British audience right that

1804
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: grew up with those two rivals. It would have meant

1805
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: more to us if it was like Ostra de la

1806
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: Joya against Bob Aaron and I don't hate that gimmick,

1807
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: and they're gonna do a lot more of them, by

1808
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: the way, not just more of Eddie versus Frank, but more.

1809
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: But it was almost too aggressive, like shoving that down

1810
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: our throat's like Eddie, Eddie Hearn lost every match, it

1811
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: was ten to nothing in the scoring. It was fun

1812
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: to sort of see their reaction, but did I need

1813
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 1: an interview and a face off after every fight between

1814
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: these supermoters? It was just like it was a little

1815
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: bit much. But on card, some of those undercard fights

1816
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: really delivered, like the Raymond Ford nick Ball one really delivered.

1817
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: But it's tough to see.

1818
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 2: Well they're like this very quickly they re announced that

1819
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: better be Better Beef Bivol October twelfth.

1820
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: Gonna kick off Riodds opening opening ceremony card.

1821
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 2: So that should be a lot of fun. And did

1822
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 2: we miss anything else?

1823
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: One more thing? Turkey said his plan to close this

1824
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: calendar year is still a supercard headlined by Canelo versus Crawford.

1825
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 1: Do we get there?

1826
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 6: Luke?

1827
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: Do we get there?

1828
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: Like?

1829
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: What would I still would have been either man from

1830
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: saying yes to that? Is it canelod?

1831
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 2: I just think Canelo wants long and I have no

1832
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 2: fucking interest.

1833
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 1: But if you're Canelo in your not doing Benavidez. Which

1834
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 1: but like when we talked about the the Pomper pound

1835
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 1: debate between Jones and Mahachev, Luke, one thing I didn't

1836
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: say is remember when you got on me and you

1837
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 1: were right? You and mkview or John Bolton, who's all

1838
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: in my DMS, were like, hey, BC, how can you

1839
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 1: keep Canelo in that conversation with those guys? He should

1840
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: maybe be a step back. And one thing people are

1841
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 1: saying that they're right, you're not penalizing him for avoiding Benavidez.

1842
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: I penalized Fury when he waited on Usik for a

1843
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 1: year unnecessarily right. I kind of pushed him back a

1844
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: couple of spots. I agree Canelo deserves that, But if

1845
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:00,719
Speaker 1: a Canelo is going to do that that and openly

1846
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: duck the biggest fight available to him, kind of you

1847
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: kind of have to accept Crawford now, won't you? No,

1848
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 1: you don't are He doesn't need the money.

1849
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 2: He doesn't need the money. And also like the way

1850
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 2: when he talks about his career like I can just

1851
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: do whatever I want.

1852
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: He doesn't want me bullied at all.

1853
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he really believes that. And you can

1854
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 2: even say he's entitled to believe that. Certainly, he just doesn't.

1855
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: I do he wants prolonga.

1856
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: I you know what if they did that in Vegas

1857
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 1: at like Allgian Stadium, Someone's gonna gonna pop that cherry

1858
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: there in combat.

1859
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,799
Speaker 2: I would be very very excite, very excited.

1860
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: All right, looke, that's the topic number four. That excuse me.

1861
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: That was Oh one more thing, Big Beang Zang gave

1862
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: us one more greeting on the way after he wanted

1863
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: the press conference. Let's listen in.

1864
01:18:58,400 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 4: Quins.

1865
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 1: I gotta say, hold on, oh, he didn't do the

1866
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: I bang Wilder, which he was doing anytime they put

1867
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: a microphone.

1868
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 2: I gotta say showing up to the post five press

1869
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: conference and being like, my team banged your team. That's

1870
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 2: a dunk. That's why I.

1871
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: Follow this guy. Do you know he lives in trains

1872
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes from there.

1873
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: He's like, very close.

1874
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 1: We got to get him in the studio. Do you

1875
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: speak mandering with him?

1876
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 3: Uh?

1877
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: Not without sounding incredibly racist.

1878
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: No, there you go, there you go right there. Shout

1879
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 1: out to you a big bang. I hope you continue

1880
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: to cash them checks at forty one.

1881
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, he's killing it right now.

1882
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 4: He really is.

1883
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: Luke Connor versus Chandler could be in jeopardy, but topic

1884
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: number five, another Slummer blockbuster over the weekend, was moved postponed.

1885
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. July twentieth was supposed to be

1886
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: the Netflix Boxing Live debut at Excuse Me at and

1887
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: T Stadium, Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson. Fortunately, Mike Tyson,

1888
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 1: who's going to turn fifty eight this summer, was was

1889
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: had a medical scare on a plane when he had

1890
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: an ulcer flare up. They even had to call out

1891
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: are there any doctors available? Ultimately Mike was okay, But Luke,

1892
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: this did lead into the fight being temporarily postponed. Are

1893
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: you nervous? What does this mean for the fight's future.

1894
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 1: The only thing we know concrete wise is that Jake

1895
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: Paul an MVP promotion said they planned to roll this

1896
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: out again later in the year, maybe October or November.

1897
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: Do we still see this fight?

1898
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 2: It's so hot?

1899
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: I mean, because this is like the worst case scenario

1900
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: for the thing that has most people like scared, slash cringe.

1901
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: It's that it's a middle aged man fighting.

1902
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 2: So I will say that when the fight was first

1903
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 2: announced and none of us thought that it was a

1904
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: good idea, Like all of us were like, this is terrible,

1905
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 2: But I was a little bit skeptical people being like, oh,

1906
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson was in a wheelchair six months ago, which

1907
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 2: there was some of that, but I'd also seen him

1908
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 2: moving around.

1909
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: Maybe Paul Pair shit his pants again.

1910
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 2: Maybe that's right, Yeah, there's there's that. But then seeing that,

1911
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, your health slowly fails over time. To

1912
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 2: see his health so frail and so fragile in this way.

1913
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 2: I mean, fights full out all the time for any

1914
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 2: number of reasons, but they're usually like training related, or

1915
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 2: one has a fucking motorcycle accident like my ulcer blew

1916
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: up on a flight is fairly new. I've never really

1917
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 2: heard that before. That's saying it's false. I'm just saying

1918
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 2: that normal I don't even know if that's normal old

1919
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 2: old guy shit like that sounds like a real problem.

1920
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 2: So the point I'm trying to make is there was

1921
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 2: a little bit of a I think I owe when

1922
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 2: the dogs were like, hey, he is borderline infirmed. It

1923
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: was still a little bit of an exaggeration, but they

1924
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 2: were definitely more right than I was. First thing I'd say,

1925
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Speaker 2: in terms of the future, I don't even know. I

1926
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 2: don't even know what to do here, because listen, if

1927
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 2: Netflix came along and was given the opportunity to air

1928
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Speaker 2: something like Jake Paul versus Jorge masvidoal for a boxing contest.

1929
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 2: I know that he has business with Nate, but I'm

1930
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 2: just saying you could do something like that. That's a

1931
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Speaker 2: reasonable thing you could do. You could even pay Nate

1932
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Speaker 2: step aside money such as he wants it, but that's

1933
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 2: not going to give Netflix the cultural event moment that

1934
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: they want.

1935
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Speaker 1: You better pay fan Meo some step outside mind.

1936
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, fan Meo, that's right. So the point I'm trying

1937
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,560
Speaker 2: to make is we all kind of want to be

1938
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 2: done with but they don't. And there's no real that

1939
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: I can detect. There's no real simple how do you

1940
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 2: substitute Mike Tyson and you could say at he's fifty eight, right,

1941
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 2: But as a cultural factor, how do you substitute that

1942
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson?

1943
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: That is not easy to do. It's a great point,

1944
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: and I mean unless you're getting like Lebron James in

1945
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: here or something right right, likea just like what what

1946
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 1: am I doing here?

1947
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 2: So it's hardly hard to say, like, I don't think

1948
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 2: they doing that unless they really can't do it. They're

1949
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 2: going to.

1950
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: They're going to because of the money potential and because

1951
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: enough people came around and we're like, oh my god,

1952
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: I have to see this right, and I came around

1953
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: to say it's going to be growing.

1954
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 2: My friends never ask about MMA or boxing. They ask

1955
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 2: every fucking week about this fight.

1956
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: What do you make about Dana White's reaction? So Saturday

1957
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 1: at the press conference. Obviously Dana's friends with Mike has

1958
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 1: been forever. They both live in Las Vegas. Here is

1959
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 1: Dana's reaction when asked about this.

1960
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Speaker 2: Clip doesn't have audio.

1961
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 1: Let's take it down then, So we had an audio

1962
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 1: problem there. So ultimately what Dana said is he said, well,

1963
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: and he was about to answer and he said, I

1964
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: do know the real story, but I'm not going to

1965
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 1: share any of it, And he would add on later

1966
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 1: that Mike gets mad at him when he speaks negatively

1967
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: about this fight. Is there something deeper? There is there

1968
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 1: something he's fifty eight, it's more scary than this ulcer scare?

1969
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 4: There is there like? Is there is?

1970
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is I asked you will

1971
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: the fight go on? Now? I'm asking you should the

1972
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: fight one? No?

1973
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: If I shouldn't, the fight shouldn't be happening at all.

1974
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 2: Well kind of a question, does that?

1975
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 1: Well? Jake Paul tweeted some business. It looked that he

1976
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,560
Speaker 1: had at least he attempted to hold this date and

1977
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: he who did he go after?

1978
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 2: Let's see the tweet here as Nubs.

1979
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 1: Going after ks Nubs. Here, KSI's coach is saying he's

1980
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: over two hundred pounds right now, so no weight excuses.

1981
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: Let's run it for July twentieth, and then Paul versus

1982
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: ticing in October or November. Then we find out that

1983
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 1: KSI is in negotiations potentially with a mere Khan, retired

1984
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: former one hundred and forty five JAMP That's also it

1985
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,799
Speaker 1: says I just gave KSI and his forehead the opportunity

1986
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: again for July. He said he's fighting in August. Cool,

1987
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm fighting in October, slash November, February. It is two

1988
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: hundred pounds MSG NYC, get it done. So this is

1989
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 1: Jake challenging KSI, which is still a money fight for

1990
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: him in the not the crossover space, the actual influencer space.

1991
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: He thinks he'll do that at MSG. Yes, I versus American.

1992
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: That's that. That just blew me away. Look that really

1993
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: blew me.

1994
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 2: Here're you listed like seven fights? I all hope don't happen.

1995
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: All right? Well, the Irish Times reporting because you might say,

1996
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: what about Katie Taylor versus Amanda Srouno two of the

1997
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 1: Mass which is a legitifight. Yes, they're reporting that now.

1998
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: Talks are going for October or November for that fight

1999
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 1: to headlin a card in Germany, where women's boxing has

2000
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: always been.

2001
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: I'll say this, I'm glad they're keeping that one moving.

2002
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,839
Speaker 2: I mean, it sucks that it won't be on Netflix

2003
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: in all likelihood at this point, but it is good

2004
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 2: that they at least are on track to fight without

2005
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 2: further too much further delay.

2006
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed interesting stuff. Those are our five topics put

2007
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: to bed right there. But now we give you the floor.

2008
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: We don't do dead wrongs. There are many fans subs

2009
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: these days, but we do give you the opportunity if

2010
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: you're have to have more shows for that. You're a

2011
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 1: donk every Sunday night. When we put out a call

2012
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: on Instagram at morning combat for your questions, we're gonna

2013
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: answer them. You better have a weird ass handle name

2014
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: so Luke can dunk on you. This one's called d

2015
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: MS from donk Ah. They'll running out that sound, are.

2016
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: We, Luke? I mean this show needs a refresh like yesterday.

2017
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: I thought we just launched a historic refresh.

2018
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 2: No, we just we just we were the undertaker meme.

2019
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 2: We just sat up out of the car. Set up.

2020
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: There we go, Luke. Question number one from our viewers

2021
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,919
Speaker 1: is gonna come from p W four three seven opinion

2022
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: on the gold gloves that Pourier and mahach wore in

2023
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 1: the title main event. I personally think only the champ

2024
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 1: have them, kind of like the champion short So Luke,

2025
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: we see chance that we see black and gold befitting

2026
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: of a champion, as John Nix says, which I like

2027
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: that champions where those those ones? Now we're seeing the

2028
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: gold gloves. I'm not to ask you whether this improves

2029
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: or makes ipokes worse.

2030
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 2: It seems to do nothing.

2031
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 1: By the way, do you see Machev's logo came off

2032
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: like the sticker on his gloves just kind of pe.

2033
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:10,640
Speaker 2: I looked up the by the way, real quickly. I

2034
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 2: looked at the manufacturer. It's a Taiwanese company called Dieco

2035
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:18,799
Speaker 2: d Yaco, and they specialize in some residential but mostly

2036
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 2: commercial fitness equipment and medical devices. I looked up wool.

2037
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 2: The other clients are They do make against some stuff

2038
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 2: for like a commercial gym. It's a B to B business, Yeah,

2039
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 2: but like what experience they have is like a manufacturer

2040
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 2: of MMA gear, you know, in any kind of enlightened way,

2041
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know what the fuck would be

2042
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 2: Why them, They're just a weird candidate for making MMA gloves.

2043
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 2: I think anyway, didn't look gaudy to you?

2044
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: Or did it look acceptable? Cool? And the because the

2045
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 1: thing I've always wanted is when you look at a

2046
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: title fight or a that's why I want more. You know,

2047
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: when they change the color you f t two hundred,

2048
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: they change the color of the mat. They did it

2049
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 1: again in a three hundred. I wish they would do

2050
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: that for the really big one.

2051
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 2: So it just looks and all different special one, I

2052
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: would say, I agree that only the champs should have them,

2053
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 2: and boxing were used to watching guys who have completely

2054
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 2: different colored gloves and it's really no big deal. It

2055
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: kind of looks cool. I agree the champion should have

2056
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 2: something that is different than the rest. That's the challenger,

2057
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 2: not the challenger. No, I agree with you on that.

2058
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: Let's hear from aop W underscore figures. Realistically, what are

2059
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 1: Connor's chances of beating challenge? Well, so let's say this

2060
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 1: fight does go on June twenty ninth, and that this

2061
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: is just a hiccup, this presser thing, And what could

2062
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: it mean to Chandler if he ends up losing.

2063
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 2: Demograd He's thirty eight. What is that supposed to mean?

2064
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean he takes big chance wings, he takes a

2065
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 1: big chances.

2066
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 2: He has a reckless style by on purpose. I'm not

2067
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 2: like insulting him. That's what it is. And he has

2068
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 2: a good shot of winning. Here, by the way, we

2069
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 2: should also say that, but also he's thirty eight. What

2070
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 2: does it mean if he loses that. He fucking tried

2071
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 2: real hard and came up short in this one. But yeah,

2072
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 2: you could say, oh, it would be damning if you

2073
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 2: didn't get enough wins coming from Beltore. No one really

2074
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,799
Speaker 2: cares about the Beltour anymore. He's here now, it matters.

2075
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 2: All of the fights he's in are fucking gun fights.

2076
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 2: You're gonna lose some of those. And he's nearly done

2077
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 2: in the sport anyway.

2078
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 1: He came close to win the title, doesn't It doesn't mean.

2079
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it doesn't mean anything, but it doesn't

2080
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 2: mean that.

2081
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 1: That's much of what we speculate about McGregor with the

2082
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: age inactivity and rock star lifestyle that I'm speculating. But boy,

2083
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: do I feel like I have clues. Let's answer this

2084
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,759
Speaker 1: man's questions. What are the chances that Connor gets.

2085
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 2: I said before Now I'm like twenty five.

2086
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously it's a style matchup where he

2087
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 1: could line he can line Chandler up with a big he.

2088
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 2: Could catch him coming in. He's got a big left

2089
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 2: hand powers. The last thing to go with the fights

2090
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 2: at one seventy, was it you who.

2091
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: Feared pre show or was it Long Island, Luke, that

2092
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: Connor could show up and look like Ronda did against

2093
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 1: Amanda Newness.

2094
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 2: That's that's it's him. That was me.

2095
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he wills.

2096
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 2: I mean that the wheels just that seems a little

2097
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 2: strong because rawse got knocked out by Home and then

2098
01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 2: I'll never forget you guys, remember this. She flew home, Rowsie,

2099
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry she flew home, and then the paparazzi was

2100
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 2: waiting for her when she landed, and she refused to

2101
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,560
Speaker 2: even show her face. She was already crushed by the

2102
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 2: weight of that experience, and she had thoughts of connor feels,

2103
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 2: if anything, at least as it relates to what happened

2104
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 2: with Parier and the time off emboldened. So no, I

2105
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,640
Speaker 2: don't I don't see that. But could he collapse like

2106
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 2: after you know, getting hit with a big shot. Yeah,

2107
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 2: of course he could.

2108
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: That's my fear that that he gets hit with a

2109
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: big shot and sort of gases slash just you know,

2110
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, Luke. I got bad feelings. I got

2111
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: really bad feels, and I really hope for the promotion

2112
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: that they can if they have to replace us, let's

2113
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 1: replace it with something big and let's do it now.

2114
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's what they're working on right now. Let's

2115
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: hear number three from Fit Man Eats. Dana said in

2116
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: the press conference they are working on another BMF title fight.

2117
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 1: Who do you see them lining up for that fight?

2118
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: Given the current set schedule and available fighters? So, Luke,

2119
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 1: I don't think are we are we defending this time?

2120
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 4: Well? Well, hold on?

2121
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 1: So like, does the title stay with the one man

2122
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 1: and defend?

2123
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 2: Like Dana said explicitly, if I'm mistaken, if I'm getting

2124
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:02,560
Speaker 2: it wrong again, please you can blow me up on

2125
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 2: a social but I believe he said he actually liked

2126
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 2: that Tuporia wanted the BMF title on the line when

2127
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 2: he fought Max, which I fucking hate.

2128
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 1: Well no, But then he also said though that because

2129
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 1: somebody asked him, do you think Mahachev will ever fight

2130
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 1: for it? And Dana's like, well, if he's the champion,

2131
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't see a need for him to fight for it.

2132
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: While I respect that Taporia said that, and Dana said

2133
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: that he respects it, I didn't get the feeling that

2134
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 1: Dana was thinking about.

2135
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 2: It, okay, So then who would it be for Max

2136
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 2: at one fifty five.

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Speaker 1: Or does it have to be Max? I guess is

2138
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 1: what I'm asking you. Does this a title that has

2139
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:33,799
Speaker 1: to be defended by the same Max we saw masvidalll

2140
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: win it and then kind of never defended it again

2141
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 1: because he went right back into the title picture.

2142
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine that they want Max to capitalize

2143
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 2: on having that. I could be wrong. I could be wrong,

2144
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: but noether.

2145
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 1: Of the best opponent. Let's say Taporia versus Max is

2146
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 1: not next in the cards, and let's say Max is

2147
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 1: not rushed to replace Connor, what would be the BMF

2148
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 1: fight that would make a lot of sense to you?

2149
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 1: A bigger aging guy. I mean kind of just did

2150
01:30:58,680 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: that the bigger agent guy engagement.

2151
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 2: That's exactly what you do. I'm not sure.

2152
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: No trilogy with Poria. We're not doing anything crazily.

2153
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 2: I don't hate that fight. What about Oliver Ea? I

2154
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 2: like that. That's a rematch too. I like that it's

2155
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 2: a rematch. Yeah, I take that. I take that. Dude.

2156
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:13,919
Speaker 2: Max is a Max is a motherfucker.

2157
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 1: Hey, we're not doing Max versus Nick da As in

2158
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 1: an open weight fight?

2159
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 2: Right? Why?

2160
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Max is an mf R. Yes, he is I love

2161
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 1: that guy, all right. I want to see it. I

2162
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: just want to see it done right and see what

2163
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 1: do you make of people? Keep asking day enough, we're

2164
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 1: ever going to see a female BMF fight? Is it necessary?

2165
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 1: Should we? Should we go equal?

2166
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 2: Well, we need some good candidates for need.

2167
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: Elite brawlers in a sense, right like.

2168
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 2: Androge would have been there, She's half of it. We

2169
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 2: need someone who's going to match that. Yeah, that's the issue.

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01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 1: Let's go to question number four from Nate the Great lux.

2171
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: Although he'll have never been a full champion, one could

2172
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 1: argue that Dustin Poorrier is a top ten lightweight of

2173
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 1: all time? What does luken BC's top ten rankings look

2174
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: like for one of the history's best divisions. So, Luke,

2175
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,600
Speaker 1: we didn't go top ten for sake of time, but

2176
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 1: we you and I both prepare our top five UFC

2177
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: lightweight rankings ever after UFC three oh two?

2178
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 2: Do your list first?

2179
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2180
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that?

2181
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 3: Right?

2182
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 2: You want to start with five?

2183
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it, okay. At number five, I have

2184
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 1: a man with three title defenses, Benson Henderson. At number four,

2185
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 1: you asked me a question, I've got the answer. Frankie

2186
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 1: Edgar okay, at number three.

2187
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 2: Now, even though Benson beat Edgar twice.

2188
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I think overall Frankie bought and beat better competition. Okay,

2189
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 1: then I mean I know he lost in that, but

2190
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: good question Number three islam Mah, Okay, I don't think

2191
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Number two governor of why bj En and

2192
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 1: I don't think he could get elected dog catcher its

2193
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: at number one, Abib Normanga Metoff, who I also think

2194
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: is at the upper room table in the argument but

2195
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: can't get it done. Of our greatest fighter of all

2196
01:32:59,200 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: time in the argument.

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01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 2: Our lists are not too different. They're a little different,

2198
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 2: but they're not too different. Okay, So I could just

2199
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 2: go off memory because I mine's almost the same as yours.

2200
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: Did you actually rank five? Or is it's going to

2201
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 1: be like a thing where you name fifteen and then

2202
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: that's I ranked five.

2203
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 2: I only have to change one, well two, but one placement.

2204
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 2: Basically five, I also have Benson Henderson or I also

2205
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 2: have Edgar. And the reason why I have Edgar I

2206
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 2: wanted to ask to see what your logic was.

2207
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't have much logic but ahead, but my point.

2208
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 2: Is those fights are highly controversial, and I thought Edgar

2209
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 2: won at least one of them.

2210
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:29,600
Speaker 1: Some of them was in China, right, No?

2211
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 2: Or I don't think so, No, I don't think.

2212
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 1: I think one of.

2213
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 2: Them was on pay per view. One was on Fox,

2214
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 2: I believe. But okay, so I have that.

2215
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:38,759
Speaker 4: Three.

2216
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 2: This is where it gets interesting.

2217
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Three.

2218
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 2: I have Bjpen And the reason why is if you

2219
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 2: look at the most title fight wins at one fifty five,

2220
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 2: it's three names. It's BJ, It's Islam, and it's Habib.

2221
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 2: For me, that's not the ultimate reason you would rank

2222
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 2: them in that way. And I can understand a case

2223
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,080
Speaker 2: for BJ at two, but I think after Saturday and

2224
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 2: you look at the overall resume of what a guy

2225
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 2: like him has showed. Again, we're talking about their lightweight,

2226
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 2: all time best lightweights, because Penn's accomplishments extend two different

2227
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 2: week classes. And also you know he has this amazing

2228
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 2: rise and then this like incredible downfall, which is part

2229
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 2: of a broader conversation. So for me, this is what

2230
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 2: I've come to over the weekend. Islam Makachev is the

2231
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 2: second best lightweight of all time period. I think that

2232
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 2: his not just the names that he's now adding. Stopping

2233
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 2: Charles Olivera stopping Alexander Volkonowski beating him twice, stopping Dustin Parier,

2234
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 2: and the record of achievement before that. But I can't

2235
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 2: give him the number one slot because that belongs to Habib,

2236
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 2: who is clearly not as well rounded. But it was

2237
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 2: such a force of nature when he got in there,

2238
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 2: the dominance and the fact injuries that he overcame in

2239
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 2: the gateshap that and also b C.

2240
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: How much does it mean now?

2241
01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 2: Maybe not much, but the fact that Islam got flat

2242
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 2: by Adreano martinz it has to count against him, and

2243
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 2: Habib just doesn't have that.

2244
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,640
Speaker 1: Well, he has the Glason Tebaugh fight, let's be fair,

2245
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 1: but he didn't get flattened. Oh but he may have

2246
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: lost it anyway. I was going to ask you this

2247
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 1: earlier and we shelve the question for now. It's hard

2248
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 1: not to compare Islam and Habib because Islam's rise to

2249
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 1: the title felt like Habib two point zho. They have

2250
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: the same coach, that come from the same area. They're

2251
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 1: like brothers. Right, people are going to go after this

2252
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 1: close fight with Dustin where Dustin really learned from the

2253
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 1: other two losses, right and title fights a lightweight to

2254
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 1: grow his takedown defense and his toughness is through the roof.

2255
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't hold it against him, but it seems like

2256
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 1: social media is using the closer than maybe expected fight

2257
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 1: to say, there's your proof. Islam struggled more with an

2258
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 1: older version of Dustin than Habib, who, let's give him

2259
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 1: credit at that time, and was Abu Dabi just absolutely

2260
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 1: dominated Dustin that does that in the second round, I believe,

2261
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 1: but one thing to do the rankings here and say, okay,

2262
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 1: as if things stand right now, Habib the greatest light

2263
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 1: weight we've ever seen? Boy, is Islam close? Do you care?

2264
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:03,719
Speaker 1: Do you have an answer in terms of like who's

2265
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 1: the better fighter overall? And does this Saturday's fight matter?

2266
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 2: In that conversation they're different again, I'm gonna say Islam

2267
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 2: more well rounded. I don't think that's really much in dispute.

2268
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 2: Much more of a killer instinct from Habib, a little

2269
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 2: bit more reckless from Habib as well, which is why

2270
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,679
Speaker 2: there were times he got into a little bit of trouble,

2271
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 2: but then just kind of powers through and give a

2272
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:25,560
Speaker 2: good technique to it. Don't mean just just raw athleticism,

2273
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 2: I mean I mean good power what's up Long Island, Luke,

2274
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 2: I was gonna say back to Benson and Frankie. First

2275
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:33,679
Speaker 2: fight was in Saitama, Japan, Japan. That was it, Yeah, Japan,

2276
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 2: that's right, That's where Joe Losan got his head kicked

2277
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 2: by Anthony Pettis. Anyway, I believe that Huaria's takedown defense

2278
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 2: was incontestably better this time than it was against Habib,

2279
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 2: even if he is a little bit older. Certainly I

2280
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 2: recognize that. And so for Islam to have that second

2281
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 2: gear essentially to go to to win, the overall record

2282
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 2: of dominance doesn't quite match Habib's, but it's pretty goddamn close.

2283
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 2: It really is.

2284
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:06,560
Speaker 1: It really is two of the greatest fighters ever, and

2285
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 1: that camp has more of them. I don't know if

2286
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:09,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna up being the greatest ever.

2287
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 2: We see what happens with.

2288
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: You's got Umar, You've got Usman, You've got Yeah. It's fantastic,

2289
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 1: all right, Luke, They've got one more. And this comes

2290
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: from a guy we know very well, j D. Roseman.

2291
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: You know that guy, Jake Funder is the guy that

2292
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 1: got fired. I don't know, I don't know. I don't

2293
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 1: know if we should share it. I mean I just

2294
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:26,719
Speaker 1: I love that man. Luke is a documentarian. But here's

2295
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 1: what he has to say. If Luke was locked in

2296
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 1: the octagon with an unranked, blindfolded Bannam weight for two minutes,

2297
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 1: how does that fight look? You against a UFC ranked

2298
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:42,600
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five pound fighter, but he's blindfolded.

2299
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm definitely gonna steal on him.

2300
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 1: Like what if it's like Pedro Muno's with a blind.

2301
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,719
Speaker 2: Adrianez just fucking crushing him with a shot.

2302
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 1: See, I argued when we when we talked as a

2303
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 1: team pre show, Because people in that studio, in that

2304
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 1: in that control room right there believe in your size

2305
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 1: and the fact that you've rolled a bit. I just

2306
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 1: think that the blindfold won't matter because jiu jitsu is

2307
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 1: all about touch and feel anyway. I just feel like

2308
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to.

2309
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a reason there's no blind world champions at

2310
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 2: the elite black belt level because eyes do matter, not

2311
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 2: until there's kind I like how you, I like how

2312
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 2: you think their jedi is just like you know, fucking

2313
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 2: catching Book.

2314
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: Of Eli with Denzel you see that he was blind

2315
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 1: turns out spoiler alert, Sorry he turns out he was

2316
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 1: blind in the end. All right, ain' enough of that, BS,

2317
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 1: thank you, Jake.

2318
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 2: Blind you do you finish?

2319
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:34,719
Speaker 1: Do you finish? Adrian?

2320
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, if you're gonna handicap him that bad,

2321
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 2: I'll probably win.

2322
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but I don't so you think what do

2323
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 1: you think then that he's gone, Yeah, I'm gonna kick

2324
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 1: him in the balls. And that's illegal. It's he's fucking blindfolded?

2325
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 1: What about that fight? It's an octagon, you don't.

2326
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna kick him right in his oblique kick right

2327
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 2: into his knee, which he can shatter and take that.

2328
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: You're not shattering his knee. You may shatter, you're dude.

2329
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm literally twice his last time. You kicked a bag.

2330
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:04,679
Speaker 1: That's a stamp.

2331
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 2: That's a fucking sideways stomp.

2332
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 1: I got blind, yes over you. I mean, it's not

2333
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 1: gonna be easy. It's not gonna be Listen.

2334
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 2: If he's got eyesight, different ballgame? Can we literally blind?

2335
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 1: Can me get him on the show? Is he if

2336
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 1: he's watching now? Can he call? Can we get him

2337
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:17,559
Speaker 1: on the show?

2338
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 2: I mean, Adriana, if you're calling, pick up the bat

2339
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 2: phone now. All right, I'm surprised you win head kick, Luke.

2340
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 1: I thought you'd just take the back choke him out

2341
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 1: real quick. No, Luke knows. If he tries to take

2342
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 1: him down, Janz is just gonna make is gonna feel it,

2343
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 1: make the adjustments and then get the rear naked on him.

2344
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 1: But you can lock the arm under the neck before

2345
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 1: he even sees it coming, you know.

2346
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, once again, I'm just gonna kick him in the balls. Guys. Okay,

2347
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 2: here we go, and both of you can suck balls.

2348
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:47,560
Speaker 1: D MS from you the listeners, the donks, thank you

2349
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 1: for your service. Okay, We've got one more segment today, Luke,

2350
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 1: and it's a good one, right, It's just from me,

2351
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 1: his argument the best one we got, right, So, Luke,

2352
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 1: what I did yesterday was I scoured the globe, scoured

2353
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: porn hub for the highs and lows, the good, the bad,

2354
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 1: the ugly, the in between, in combat sports and beyond.

2355
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:06,640
Speaker 1: From the last week that was this one's called have

2356
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 1: you seen this? My dream is that we get like

2357
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 1: an eighties wedding cover band, like a cheesy over the

2358
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: top eighties cover band. We do a live show one day,

2359
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 1: like the London one. We have the band there and

2360
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:26,560
Speaker 1: they sort of play us in and out of the

2361
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 1: segments and stuff that'd be badass, right. I was listening

2362
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 1: to them and like the Vikings, like you guys want

2363
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 1: to row by the way. I saw the video of that.

2364
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: It's so lame, so so for folks to catch up there.

2365
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 2: I didn't know this until I had seen it. If

2366
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 2: you're into Viking metal at concerts, they literally, rather than

2367
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:46,680
Speaker 2: having around, they sit on the ground and pretend like

2368
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 2: they're Roman arm.

2369
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Leg and leg. They all like lock limbs and then

2370
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 1: they like.

2371
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:53,560
Speaker 2: And it's the saddest thing I've ever seen seen, like

2372
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 2: the wave on steroids.

2373
01:40:54,920 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 1: Right, No, it's like it's I hate all those people.

2374
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 1: Look at our sound guy Ken deep into his phony things.

2375
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 1: Look at nudes.

2376
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,800
Speaker 2: He's playing Sonic the Hedgehog on that. There you go,

2377
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 2: all right, Luke.

2378
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 1: We start off UFC three oh two from Newark, but

2379
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 1: this was during fight week. Let's go over to where

2380
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 1: the Mets play City Field. Here's Paulo Costa.

2381
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:16,760
Speaker 2: Don't worry, there's no one in the audience throwing out

2382
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 2: the opening.

2383
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 1: Oh my god, just a bit outside, by.

2384
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 2: The way, there is no one there. I have to

2385
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 2: explain this to my daughter. I'm like, you have to

2386
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 2: we played frisbee yesterday at the park. I'm like, you

2387
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 2: have to release the frisbee where you want it to

2388
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 2: go because she's just chucking the ship to the side.

2389
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, all right, that was that's bad.

2390
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 1: That's that's It's not worse than fifty cent, but it's bad.

2391
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 2: John Wall, by the way, also had a terrible throw.

2392
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 1: Remember the first week we ever did have you seen

2393
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 1: this ship? And the last clip of the bunch was

2394
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 1: that family Park when that when they were throwing out

2395
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 1: the ceremonial first pitch and the guy missed it so

2396
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 1: bad that there was a cameraman standing behind home plate

2397
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 1: and got right in the ball. Yeah, that was one

2398
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 1: of the history, all right. Luke Costa also had a

2399
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 1: big moment on embedded when him and Eileen Perez and

2400
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 1: Lucy King look at his right hand he comes club No, yeah.

2401
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:10,839
Speaker 2: Listen, I yeah, wait exercise he exercised restraint.

2402
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 1: Is that him for a high five? Or was yeah

2403
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 1: he's okay there good? You know you know what it

2404
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 1: was muscle memory.

2405
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 4: There it is.

2406
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 1: Riley Perez was not done, Luke not done. Here is

2407
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:23,640
Speaker 1: her celebrating her decision went over Joscelyn Edwards in their

2408
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 1: grudge match. The only way she knows how Luke now

2409
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:31,839
Speaker 1: that coaches is is that the guy from Karate.

2410
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:34,600
Speaker 2: Combat, the guy from goat Shed. Yeah, I read a

2411
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 2: combat too. Yeah, what's his name?

2412
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: I forget, I forget. He's a nice guy on on it.

2413
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:40,799
Speaker 2: He's hilarious on the internet.

2414
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 1: There, Luke, Perez and Joscelyn Edwards. By the way, would

2415
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: Bury bury the hatchet after the unanimous decision wins? Sort

2416
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 1: of people thought that that there was a proposal in here, Luke,

2417
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 1: because you got done.

2418
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 2: She kind of like begged her to like join her

2419
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 2: in this sort of mutual let's put the acrook.

2420
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 1: We love the hate ahead of a fight, but don't

2421
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 1: we want our heroes afterwards.

2422
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 2: To like not resist demonstrative? No, no, no, A little

2423
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 2: much for me, this got very intimate and emotional at this.

2424
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 2: It's a little much for me.

2425
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: I would we do this after every show? You and I, Well,

2426
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 1: you're on your knees.

2427
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 2: I can say that.

2428
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 1: Okay, all right?

2429
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 4: Uh, Luke.

2430
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 1: After they did this reunion in the cage and they

2431
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 1: made nice, Perez continued to walk back to the locker

2432
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 1: room again. The only way she's an interesting gets into

2433
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 1: the shower. She's an interesting follow on Instagram, Luke, are

2434
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 1: you a follower?

2435
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 2: Listen? Uh, I don't know a whole lot about Latin America,

2436
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 2: but I do know they dance a lot. I have

2437
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:36,760
Speaker 2: seen you know, I have seen that.

2438
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: You do know a very lot about it. Uh, let's

2439
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,679
Speaker 1: keep it going though, Habib and team Mahachev. We mentioned

2440
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 1: they hurtled the fence to celebrate. This was Usman Nirmaga

2441
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 1: Medov right here.

2442
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 2: They chucked him out, by the way, so he was

2443
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 2: in the crowd.

2444
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 1: In the ticket section, not wearing a not actually a

2445
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 1: cornerman and he and that's it. But look at the

2446
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 1: even Habib dude jumping up looks like he was about

2447
01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 1: to do a flying drop kick on.

2448
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 2: It's actually a really great moment between teammates. But when

2449
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 2: they're coming over that fence, there's an incidant where you're.

2450
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 1: Like ship that looks scary, you know what I mean?

2451
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 1: I borrow Tuglov there again?

2452
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 2: Is he gonna go after Zubaira to Coogle to Googolf?

2453
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you say Tomato, I say to Google. Luke, you

2454
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 1: mentioned usman got kicked out here's security. Some people thought

2455
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 1: maybe he had been a Biden supporter, but no, Luke,

2456
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 1: actually it was because you can't.

2457
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not welcome here.

2458
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Hey, by the way, you see

2459
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in the furrow did not stand up to

2460
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,879
Speaker 1: shake Trump's hand when everyone was like, sort.

2461
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 2: Of okay, but here's the question. Was he tripping on

2462
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 2: some kind of drug?

2463
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 1: And Waite Snyder says he shook his hand later, Oh, okay,

2464
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 1: there you go. Maybe it was psycho But.

2465
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 2: Anyway, he's an RFK guy. He likes the brain worms.

2466
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: Guy, brain worms.

2467
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 2: Did you not see this?

2468
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 1: No?

2469
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 2: Well, I don't look. Am I all making it up

2470
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 2: that RFK admitted by his like no one asked him

2471
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 2: to do it, that he had a worm inside of

2472
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 2: his brain.

2473
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 1: I've never heard anything about that, are you guys? I

2474
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 1: do not the fucking I never heard it. Yeah, I

2475
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 1: don't really, I don't really watch the news. You can

2476
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 1: see you guys are this program actually because you're finding

2477
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 1: out right now this is the brains guy, Luke, we

2478
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 1: had a big weekend in Saudi Arabia, but I already

2479
01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 1: played the Big Bang Jiang clip. But speaking of Saudi Arabia,

2480
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 1: is it safe?

2481
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:17,679
Speaker 7: Hey, did you know that Saudi Arabia was the safest

2482
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 7: country in the world up until twenty eighteen?

2483
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 3: I did not know.

2484
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, check it out.

2485
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 7: According to Wikipedia, until June twenty eighteen, Saudi Arabia was

2486
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:29,639
Speaker 7: the only country in the world in which women were

2487
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 7: forbidden from driving motor vehicles.

2488
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 1: That's too far. That's that, luke. That's I mean that

2489
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 1: I do not endorse this moment. That's too far. That

2490
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 1: is the future is female here, please, I mean that

2491
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:43,640
Speaker 1: is just I mean, that's very misogynistic, but it's a

2492
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,920
Speaker 1: decent subversion of expectation. Yeah, there you go. Anyone can

2493
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 1: get it in the show as.

2494
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 2: That's right, every listen. Just jokes, yeah, just.

2495
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 1: Jokes right here. Do you want some elder abuse, because

2496
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:53,559
Speaker 1: it's back.

2497
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 2: Let's beat the ship out of some old people.

2498
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 1: It's back with a bang. Let's go to the golf course.

2499
01:45:58,120 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 1: You see this new prank they've been doing with the

2500
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: faked neck, luke.

2501
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and freaking people out with it.

2502
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's watch this, including people who have a dead

2503
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: tree let fall in the neighbor's car.

2504
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 4: Okay, ship, Oh, Jerry, Jerry trick.

2505
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 1: That is Oh boy, he's not again.

2506
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 4: It's sad.

2507
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:34,560
Speaker 1: Look at this pot bellied zero. He definitely shot his

2508
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:36,680
Speaker 1: pants in those white shorts. There's no question. Oh, I

2509
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: mean he needs he needs uh some wet wipes like

2510
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 1: my like Twoki when she was too. Wow, all right,

2511
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 1: that's some good elder abuse. Let's go to the dock

2512
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: right here. Let's see what grandma's got for us. Remember

2513
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 1: what shop said that time, Luke, No, nothing a double

2514
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 1: legg couldn't figure out.

2515
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:52,760
Speaker 2: Let's see. Oh, she's going back here.

2516
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 1: Oh, Grandma, fu your life? Where's poor when you need him? Grandma?

2517
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 2: I look at her. She she winds up like my mom,

2518
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna backhnd the fuck out of you. He's like,

2519
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:05,799
Speaker 2: you know what, a lady have a drank?

2520
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Augistan style. Wow, that's fantastic right there. Okay, let's

2521
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 1: go over to this lady, Luke, I feel like she's

2522
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 1: done this before.

2523
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 2: What the fucking what the fuck did she do?

2524
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 3: What is this?

2525
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:23,719
Speaker 1: I think she tried to smell the lotion.

2526
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 2: Oh she just squored the ship.

2527
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 1: Yes, but you know she didn't panic. This has happened.

2528
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 2: I've had a couple of girlfriends look like that.

2529
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 4: Okay, that was.

2530
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 1: Something right there. Luke, when you graduated and walk the walk,

2531
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,640
Speaker 1: the walk through the threshold, did you like throw your

2532
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 1: hat or do something crazy like that?

2533
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:45,640
Speaker 2: So I screamed at my college graduation, but they like the.

2534
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 1: One, like the scream you did at the huawe Wai

2535
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 1: McGregor live show.

2536
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:51,680
Speaker 2: Exactly like that. Yes, but they played. And this is

2537
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 2: not a joke. People think I'm joking. They played and

2538
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 2: make them say at my graduation in high school, yeah, Valdosta, No,

2539
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,639
Speaker 2: this is Mary out high school. Yeah, May ninety eight,

2540
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 2: if you know, you know, all.

2541
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 1: Right, let's see this real g cross over here. Not

2542
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:05,599
Speaker 1: that guy Luke.

2543
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, No one's chained. That's fine, that's fine.

2544
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:14,640
Speaker 2: I'm in with that, no problem. Oh you can just

2545
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 2: see here, sir.

2546
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 1: We don't do that here. No, no, just keep it moving, bro,

2547
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:25,560
Speaker 1: keep moving all right? Hey, look, big week for normalizing

2548
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 1: ass eating.

2549
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 2: I eat cat from dah back.

2550
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 1: I guess that. What does the what does the license

2551
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 1: plate say?

2552
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, heello seco, I don't know.

2553
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a bold statement in the back of the

2554
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 1: truck right there. Let's keep it going to your hat

2555
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 1: of the week, same topic.

2556
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 2: If eating ass is a sin. I'll see you in

2557
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:53,599
Speaker 2: hell with the guy Fieri two thousand and five arrow Flames.

2558
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 2: That is fucking awesome.

2559
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 1: Hold I didn't know this. Hold on.

2560
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 2: The guy who played Sea Bass in Dumb and Dumber

2561
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:07,799
Speaker 2: is cam Neely. Yes, he's the president of the Boston Bruins.

2562
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 1: Yes he's a Bruins. He's a Bruins legend. I know,

2563
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 1: I know why.

2564
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,080
Speaker 2: I just never put together the guy who played I

2565
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 2: never put it together. The guy who played Sea Bass

2566
01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 2: is the fucking president of the Bruins.

2567
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 1: But Sailor's always good for getting like ex athletes to

2568
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 1: play those good point. You're right, that was fairly brothers.

2569
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 1: That is fairly right. Why am I giving Sailor that credit?

2570
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 1: You're right, good point, Luke. Do you ever look at

2571
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 1: a picture and then look closer and you see something

2572
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,640
Speaker 1: you've never seen before? The magic guy not a magic guy,

2573
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 1: just reflections. There's things in the background that you never

2574
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 1: saw before. I mean, look, you look really happy in

2575
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 1: that picture, you know. I mean, I'll say this.

2576
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 2: For the people who kill me, you can't say they

2577
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 2: don't know me, you know what I mean. You can't

2578
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 2: say you didn't get me dead. To rights. You got me.

2579
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:55,679
Speaker 1: What's the opposite of elder abuse?

2580
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 3: Uh?

2581
01:49:57,080 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 2: Beating out of kid?

2582
01:49:58,080 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got that too.

2583
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:02,680
Speaker 2: This week, let's say, Okay, he's just swinging. Let's see

2584
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:04,720
Speaker 2: what happens. He's gonna jump like a dumb ass. Yeah,

2585
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 2: fucking hell boy.

2586
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 1: He wanted you know, you could be anything you want

2587
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:08,639
Speaker 1: in this world.

2588
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 2: Account Scorpion from the account Scooby laced my blunt.

2589
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, we got one more kid getting hurt.

2590
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:15,599
Speaker 1: Look here, let's see what happens.

2591
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:19,120
Speaker 2: We have no sound on any of these.

2592
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:22,639
Speaker 1: A lot of them don't have some of them have music.

2593
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 1: We can't call it.

2594
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 4: Oh you know what.

2595
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 2: I hit him with the fucking uh hit him with

2596
01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 2: the Seagi. Let's see it one more time. He beat

2597
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 2: the ship out of that care He he bopped him

2598
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:35,600
Speaker 2: like a hammer. Watch here comes to se Onagi standing Sayagi,

2599
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 2: bob bitch that you yeah?

2600
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 4: Wow?

2601
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 1: That is that is something? All right? Hey, combat sports

2602
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 1: athletes in the wild. Do you know when people play

2603
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 1: stupid games like asking canal Alvaz to hit him to

2604
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: the body. Okay, imagine wearing a wife beater and asking.

2605
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 2: Can He's smiling. He's like, I'm gonna flex real hard.

2606
01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 2: That'll fix it.

2607
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:02,679
Speaker 1: I mean, you see what happened one Tayo female.

2608
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 2: You know what people were like, Oh, remember when Sean

2609
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 2: Struckland beat up there like that that dog from the

2610
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 2: Rumble and everyone like he really went too far blah

2611
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 2: blah blah.

2612
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, if they're.

2613
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 2: Asking for it.

2614
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 1: In an MMA context, Deanty Wilder went after Charlie Z

2615
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 1: because he was putting those messages on.

2616
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:20,439
Speaker 2: His It's like, dude, if you signed up for it,

2617
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,040
Speaker 2: I'm not having any You're an adult. I'm not having

2618
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:23,600
Speaker 2: sympathy for you.

2619
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 1: What do you think about Canelo being all in on

2620
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 1: the golf tournament and be like, oh, you want a

2621
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 1: body shot? Sure?

2622
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 2: What is his handicap?

2623
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 1: Do we know he's really good at golf? He's one

2624
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:32,000
Speaker 1: of the best celebrities. I don't know the stats, but he's.

2625
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 2: He's Luke, can you look up what Canelo's handicap is?

2626
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 1: Please, Luke, let's keep it going here Combat Sports in

2627
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 1: the wild. Look at the way Joseph Parker's training for

2628
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 1: his next big fight. A couple of years ago. His

2629
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:48,639
Speaker 1: handicap was an eight. WHOA, yeah, that's legit, Luke.

2630
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,520
Speaker 2: This is some like I would think that's some muchel

2631
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 2: from Lord of the Rings type shit, right.

2632
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Joseph Parker from New Zealand just pulling

2633
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 1: the fish right out of here. I know what.

2634
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:58,799
Speaker 2: You can't say, you're not a real man, that motherfucker

2635
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,799
Speaker 2: eating raw fish the most protein?

2636
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 1: Is that what it is?

2637
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:03,519
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm not really going to challenge it.

2638
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 1: Lord, we got one more. Did you see Kayla Harrison

2639
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 1: making the rounds with Poeton in the Newark area? They

2640
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 1: went to the same gym here and worked out. Kayla,

2641
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 1: look at getting the She is.

2642
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 2: Not nearly as big of a deal as people think

2643
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 2: it is. Explain so obviously she's strong, but she's a

2644
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 2: two time gold medalist in judo. Like she's throwing a

2645
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,599
Speaker 2: static opponent, you know, and it's just a basic hip toss.

2646
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 2: Like why would it be?

2647
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 1: Why did it get in this show?

2648
01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 2: Is what you're saying. People were like, Oh, it's amazing,

2649
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 2: it's not You're like.

2650
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 1: I'd rather have erotic middle aged women swallow gizzies. Is

2651
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: that what you would prefer?

2652
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 4: Look? Is that what you want?

2653
01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 1: If you want it, you got it. Let's go to

2654
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 1: the videotape, all.

2655
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:47,879
Speaker 2: Right, Look, at this broad Son, get me that fucking

2656
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:49,679
Speaker 2: phone number? Are you kidding?

2657
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,680
Speaker 1: Oh wow, she knows exactly what.

2658
01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 2: I haven't read catch posted this.

2659
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a boxer. That's a real boxer. By the way,

2660
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 1: you know the tattoo scheme he has on his chest

2661
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 1: and shoulders, it's the same one Miguel Coto has, because

2662
01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:04,759
Speaker 1: Codo's is his idol.

2663
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 2: Is that right?

2664
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? It's interesting a Ukrainian fighter. But is Redcotch We

2665
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:09,800
Speaker 1: used to call Red cock That's what we used to

2666
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 1: call him. That's not Bob Aram had a great moment

2667
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 1: that hasn't made my dog barbius. Yeah, yeah he does.

2668
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 1: Luke Jack Caterall took a split decision went over Josh

2669
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 1: Taylor in their rematch a week ago. Did you hear

2670
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 1: Bob Aram in the ring afterwards?

2671
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 4: Here right now? Like everybody else, those score cards.

2672
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:32,720
Speaker 3: Were disgrace, absolute discras.

2673
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 2: Look at Eddie in the background, he's loving They.

2674
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 4: Feel sorry for Josh.

2675
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 1: I thought they won the fight. Yeah, no, prank, dude.

2676
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 2: Bob Aram is ninety two. Yes, Bob Aram promoted. This

2677
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 2: is true Mohammed Ali.

2678
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:50,680
Speaker 1: Bob Aram's first fight was Muhammad Ali fight.

2679
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:54,560
Speaker 2: Okay, he's ninety two flies all over the world, and

2680
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,840
Speaker 2: all he does is tell people how dumb and awful

2681
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 2: they are. Fucking legend.

2682
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 4: Dude.

2683
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,600
Speaker 1: Imagine if we got if we facilitated a face off

2684
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 1: where it was Coppinger and Bob or Grandpa this we

2685
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: forget that. Why are we doing that, RSD where we

2686
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 1: hit the bong with Bob? Do you think he would do?

2687
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 1: Is that inappropriate on air for us to do that

2688
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 1: with ship?

2689
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:14,799
Speaker 2: Do you think anybody cares about journalism anymore?

2690
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 1: They only care about drugs? Apparently? All right, that's cool. Hey,

2691
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 1: this week in baseball he ended up, Luke, let's go

2692
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 1: to Japanese baseball. Check out this rehab moment in the

2693
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 1: in the dugout? Where do I sign off?

2694
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 4: Right?

2695
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 1: That's look at the that's yeah.

2696
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:29,600
Speaker 2: I don't really want to judge these practices, but they

2697
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:30,559
Speaker 2: seem a little extreme.

2698
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 4: This is great.

2699
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 1: Wow, that guy's like, get the camera all right. Let's

2700
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 1: have you ever been real high in a baseball game?

2701
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 2: Luke, Ago, Holy ship, dude, look at how high this

2702
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 2: guy is.

2703
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 1: That looks like Tristan when he drank out of a

2704
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 1: shoe on the Main Card Minute podcast. That's Tristan After

2705
01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 1: drinking the blood of six children. Kid Na, I'll have

2706
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 1: what he's having, Yes, yes, indeed we got one more.

2707
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 1: Here is Gary Sanchez, major League baseball player, sneaking in

2708
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 1: a Lippacker luke. But this one's jumbo size. Watch him

2709
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 1: in the background. Oh dude, you don't see that on

2710
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:21,320
Speaker 1: camera too often?

2711
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah? You know, as a guy who used to dip,

2712
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 2: I can, I can acknowledge that's a fat watch.

2713
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 1: That is a fat wad. You swallow even a half

2714
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 1: drop of that liquid.

2715
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 2: I've told people this. They don't believe me, but it's

2716
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 2: really true. Dude. My droll instructors at boot camp always

2717
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 2: swallow the tobacco juice every single time.

2718
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 1: You don't violently throw up.

2719
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 2: It made me sick once too.

2720
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:45,440
Speaker 1: But at one time laid over a storm drain two

2721
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 1: houses down from my house in high school and just

2722
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 1: after swallowing that drunk and.

2723
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 2: Just threw up for hours.

2724
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 1: They would threw up for hours in a storm drain

2725
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 1: on the side of the road.

2726
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 2: And I remember I went from boot camp. I went

2727
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 2: from June to August in Paaras Island, South Carolina. It

2728
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:00,760
Speaker 2: was hot as shit. Every day, would march us around

2729
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 2: everyone sweating their balls off, and they would continue to

2730
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:03,640
Speaker 2: swallow it on runs.

2731
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't believe it. I could not believe it.

2732
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 1: All right, Luke will Fortune had a great moment, not

2733
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 1: patch say, Jack's retirement, but this moment tomorrow's right in

2734
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 1: the butt.

2735
01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 5: No.

2736
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 2: First of all, it's four letters in the opening word,

2737
01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 2: he said, right in the butt. Second of all, dude,

2738
01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 2: you know my man is into that Shisa porn.

2739
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 1: You know he's into that Dukie love. Yeah, I don't

2740
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:41,760
Speaker 1: go that way. I'm more into the classics like Rocko.

2741
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:46,000
Speaker 1: You know, that's just that's just me, Luke. Goodass NASCAR fight.

2742
01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 1: In recent weeks, here's Ricky Stenhouse Junior and Kyle Busch

2743
01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 1: getting into it.

2744
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:54,800
Speaker 2: Nascar is eighty percent car racing, twenty percent rednecks.

2745
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think it's more ninety rednecks. But when

2746
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 1: they fight, Luke, that's when I'm into it. Look at

2747
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:03,320
Speaker 1: the teams, dude, Nascar. I talked to NASCAR fans about

2748
01:57:03,320 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 1: this because I didn't get it. Nascar fans fucking love it.

2749
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,320
Speaker 1: Oh they love the ship. Yeah. Look at these old

2750
01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 1: ass pitt workers getting involved too.

2751
01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, they love just shitty fist fighting from car drivers.

2752
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh wow, this keeps going.

2753
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:18,880
Speaker 2: It looks like the stands at UFC three O two.

2754
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 1: I didn't see any of those.

2755
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 2: No, I'll send you something.

2756
01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:23,640
Speaker 1: They'll make it in here next week. All right, Luke,

2757
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 1: you want to talk boobs to close this out? Sure?

2758
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:28,440
Speaker 1: I got this live band. Look at this lady playing

2759
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 1: the cymbals.

2760
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 2: You know, work with what the good Lord gave.

2761
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Why waste that? Uh?

2762
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 4: Luke?

2763
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 1: A lot of people like to talk about pronouns. Let's

2764
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 1: hear from this old guy. People always ask me about

2765
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 1: my prodowns?

2766
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 4: Are nonprodowns? Are latt me?

2767
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 3: She?

2768
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 4: Damn kitties.

2769
01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 1: I can't say I endorse this message completely, but got

2770
01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: yeah popped for it. Wow, Like you know what, we

2771
01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 1: gotta let Pops go because his life expectancy is Thursday.

2772
01:57:58,680 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 2: Let's just be honest.

2773
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, we found his favorite song. There's a music

2774
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 1: video to it. Let's listen in.

2775
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 8: You're talking to me about stuff. Why I'd rather see

2776
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 8: your titties? Now you're talking about other stuff. Why I'd

2777
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 8: much rather see your titties. Let me ask you a question.

2778
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 2: If I tried this with my wife tonight, will she

2779
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 2: hit me with a tire iron.

2780
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 1: She's like, look at though, you're supposed to take the

2781
01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 1: car and for ad missions, and you're like, you're talking

2782
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:28,560
Speaker 1: to me about more stuff.

2783
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 2: You're talking to me about stuff, and let's just be honest.

2784
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 2: I'd rather see your titties.

2785
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:36,840
Speaker 1: I think my wife would kill me. That's great. One

2786
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:39,640
Speaker 1: more for you. You mentioned that NASCAR was very white trash.

2787
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 1: Here's your white trash moment.

2788
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:46,080
Speaker 2: Just an average morning at the truck stock.

2789
01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Oh my god, Amy Joe come inside.

2790
01:58:57,120 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 1: That's very dangerous. Bid morning at the Piggley Wiggly hair. Luke,

2791
01:59:02,360 --> 01:59:02,960
Speaker 1: this is great.

2792
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 2: So you know you're in the South when girls have

2793
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:10,480
Speaker 2: two first names, Yes, Laura Beth Amy Joey. No, like

2794
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:13,720
Speaker 2: that's their first name, like Laura Beth Smith or Amy

2795
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 2: Joe Watkins or whatever the fuck.

2796
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:18,160
Speaker 1: Amanda Bobby Cooper shout out missus Brenda.

2797
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 2: That's how you know you're in the South talking about

2798
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 2: it first time.

2799
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 1: That's the ship of the week, Luke. You saw your

2800
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:26,360
Speaker 1: thoughts a minus. That was actually good. Okay, that was better.

2801
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:29,280
Speaker 1: You know what we need and getting canceled a few times? No,

2802
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:32,280
Speaker 1: we need the elderly abuses.

2803
01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 2: Great. I'm not so into the kid abuse because you

2804
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:34,840
Speaker 2: know my daughter's.

2805
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be equal opportunity, fair enough.

2806
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 2: I want to see some of the skaters bust their

2807
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:40,840
Speaker 2: head open and their teeth get knocked out. That's the

2808
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:41,960
Speaker 2: kind of thing i'm into as well.

2809
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:44,840
Speaker 1: Oh great, that's real, that's great. All right, Well that

2810
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 1: was our show for the week. Do you want to

2811
01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:49,080
Speaker 1: shout out anybody in the room over here?

2812
01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 3: Hey?

2813
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 2: They all do a great job, and I'm glad they're here,

2814
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:54,480
Speaker 2: except Luke and I.

2815
01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:58,280
Speaker 1: Always get the other guy's name wrong, always, Dear dear,

2816
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 1: Why can't I get that right? Deer dear big Fortnite guy?

2817
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:02,560
Speaker 2: Is that right?

2818
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:04,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's trying to get me off of that

2819
02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:05,240
Speaker 1: into some other Fortnite.

2820
02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:08,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, let me ask a question because I

2821
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:09,840
Speaker 2: don't know Fortnite the last thing.

2822
02:00:09,880 --> 02:00:10,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'll get to that.

2823
02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, A serious question, because I do not I'm not

2824
02:00:12,640 --> 02:00:15,320
Speaker 2: like saying it is. I am asking isn't Fortnite a

2825
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:15,920
Speaker 2: little washed?

2826
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:19,960
Speaker 1: Well? I'm isn't a little washed?

2827
02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I remember before the pandemic, all

2828
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:24,920
Speaker 2: the kids were doing all the fucking remember.

2829
02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:27,440
Speaker 1: Telle female used to do Fortnite dances. That's when it's

2830
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 1: cultural peak. But I got into it only to connect

2831
02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:32,800
Speaker 1: with my sons more. And now they're like, Dad, you're

2832
02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:34,600
Speaker 1: an addict on a level that we don't want to be.

2833
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:37,720
Speaker 2: Here's my question. Instead of playing Fortnite, why not just

2834
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:44,320
Speaker 2: watch more pornography? Pornography?

2835
02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:46,680
Speaker 1: This is not a difficult call. Look, I forgot. We

2836
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:48,960
Speaker 1: have one bonus clip here. So people are mad at

2837
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:51,600
Speaker 1: us for a few things promises we've made. We don't

2838
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:54,200
Speaker 1: do fan subs anymore. They don't think we do Dead

2839
02:00:54,240 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 1: wrong because we don't want to be held accountable.

2840
02:00:56,200 --> 02:00:56,720
Speaker 2: That's not true.

2841
02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:59,360
Speaker 1: Okay, well let's hold Luke Thomas accountable. All right, we're

2842
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:01,400
Speaker 1: on the way to it. Yes, I know it's been

2843
02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:04,640
Speaker 1: a slow rebuild. Lukes do something that's never been done

2844
02:01:04,680 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 1: in MMA podcast history. Before I said that, maybe they

2845
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:08,600
Speaker 1: meant we were going to sit around.

2846
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:11,040
Speaker 2: Why do you take shots at me about what I've said?

2847
02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:13,560
Speaker 1: I don't because you're a very comical person.

2848
02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fine, but I didn't. But like it's like

2849
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:18,520
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell said he was gonna blow Craig Jones. You

2850
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:22,280
Speaker 2: didn't actually say that. Let me just say something. I

2851
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:24,720
Speaker 2: can't reveal a whole lot. What I can say is

2852
02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 2: I've continued to see what people are suggesting that we're

2853
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:28,880
Speaker 2: going to do, and not one person has gotten it correct.

2854
02:01:28,920 --> 02:01:31,400
Speaker 2: That's true. What we are attempting is something that, at

2855
02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:34,080
Speaker 2: least in the combat sports space, no one else has

2856
02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:42,440
Speaker 2: done yet. Okay, okay, okay, there is some fairness there.

2857
02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:47,600
Speaker 2: Accountability dead wrong. But BC, you have to back me

2858
02:01:47,680 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 2: up a little bit. First of all, at the time

2859
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:54,080
Speaker 2: at which I said that.

2860
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 1: You're talking about other things, but I just want to say,

2861
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 1: you're it's like just just we'll get back to the

2862
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:01,840
Speaker 1: titties here.

2863
02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:05,720
Speaker 2: Uh, At the time of which I said that I

2864
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:08,280
Speaker 2: didn't make that up out of thin air, don't hedge.

2865
02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:11,520
Speaker 2: I'll take the I'll take the l But I'm saying

2866
02:02:12,120 --> 02:02:15,480
Speaker 2: we had discussions at that time, yes, that we're going

2867
02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 2: in a different direction than where we ended.

2868
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:19,240
Speaker 1: This was going to look a lot different. But I

2869
02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:21,760
Speaker 1: but you have to say, shout out to the people

2870
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:22,760
Speaker 1: that have helped us get here.

2871
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:25,440
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not complaining, I'm just saying it. Blow up

2872
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:27,440
Speaker 2: in my face, Okay, blow.

2873
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:29,120
Speaker 1: Up in that lady's face with a lotion bottle.

2874
02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:33,000
Speaker 2: But I'm also going to say this, We're not done.

2875
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:34,280
Speaker 4: We're not done.

2876
02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:37,160
Speaker 2: We're not fucking done. It just has been way different

2877
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 2: than we thought it was going to be.

2878
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:41,760
Speaker 1: That's what I would say. It has all right, Hey,

2879
02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna go. Are we going to Gervonte? That'd be

2880
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:44,920
Speaker 1: a great pay per view. I think we are supposed

2881
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:47,120
Speaker 1: to going to You got to get to the sphere

2882
02:02:47,120 --> 02:02:48,040
Speaker 1: and see Dead in Company.

2883
02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:51,120
Speaker 2: You owe me, I owe you, O you.

2884
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:52,920
Speaker 1: We gotta hook this up. We got to make this

2885
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:55,720
Speaker 1: happen here. You've got to have the transfer, gets us tickets.

2886
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 2: I'll go, whoa, whoa, I'll go. I owe you Otel Burbridge.

2887
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:00,400
Speaker 1: Do you hear that?

2888
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:02,880
Speaker 2: This man will and we'll film everything and then give

2889
02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:03,320
Speaker 2: it to Jake.

2890
02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 1: Okay, there we go.

2891
02:03:06,120 --> 02:03:06,480
Speaker 3: I like that.

2892
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:08,040
Speaker 1: I like the sound of that for a long island.

2893
02:03:08,120 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 1: Luke on the ones and twos. Thank you, Luke Thomas

2894
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:14,360
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, Morning Combat Like and follow us hit our

2895
02:03:14,480 --> 02:03:17,720
Speaker 1: merch house Morning Combat dot store. Hey you want ten

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02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:20,560
Speaker 1: percent off this great bomber jacket right here, use our

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02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:24,480
Speaker 1: live ten code. Shout out to Metal Lark Draft Kings.

2898
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:27,480
Speaker 1: Of course we are lot. We are rebroadcast on the

2899
02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:32,160
Speaker 1: Draft Kings at five pm in the East. Big news

2900
02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:33,800
Speaker 1: to come, Big things to come. Hopefully we'll still have

2901
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:35,960
Speaker 1: a great summer with all these blockbusters falling apart, but

2902
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 1: we'll continue to bang.

2903
02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:39,960
Speaker 2: We're going to bang.

2904
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean Has Has Has Has Big Bang Has Big

2905
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:45,760
Speaker 1: Bang Jang removed to me and Greg Hardy from our

2906
02:03:45,800 --> 02:03:46,640
Speaker 1: It's so much better.

2907
02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:47,880
Speaker 2: It's so much better.

2908
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:50,160
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, that's about it.

2909
02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:50,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do.

2910
02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:52,520
Speaker 1: Like sometimes I'm like, what we do? Do we do?

2911
02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:54,720
Speaker 1: We do something gross? Like we can take it out.

2912
02:03:56,120 --> 02:04:00,400
Speaker 2: Just like you know, let's go catch trains. Okay, and

2913
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:02,080
Speaker 2: maybe like in the Marine Corps dys we can run

2914
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:05,000
Speaker 2: a couple. That's a true store. I've ever told this

2915
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:07,920
Speaker 2: story where I got fucking woken up by this dude?

2916
02:04:08,160 --> 02:04:09,640
Speaker 1: Have I ever told this? You told us like three

2917
02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 1: thousand times.

2918
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:12,520
Speaker 2: His last name was Lance, Corporal Vitally. He was from

2919
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:15,040
Speaker 2: fucking Is he still alive? Can we interview he can't be.

2920
02:04:15,120 --> 02:04:17,640
Speaker 2: He was way too stupid. He was way too stupid.

2921
02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:18,200
Speaker 4: I want to.

2922
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:20,680
Speaker 1: Interview people from your life, you like, this is your life.

2923
02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:22,320
Speaker 2: Where you are? He's in contact with a couple of people.

2924
02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:25,400
Speaker 2: But anyway, he was like, hey, dude. And then I

2925
02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:27,800
Speaker 2: won't say exactly what he said, but he invited me

2926
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:30,200
Speaker 2: to go participate in group sex and I was like.

2927
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this. I just want to

2928
02:04:33,160 --> 02:04:33,520
Speaker 1: go home.

2929
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so I went back to bed.

2930
02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 1: Yeah right, there you go. Well that was gross. Hey

2931
02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:41,040
Speaker 1: that's Luke Thomas. This is your boy, BC. That's always

2932
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:43,720
Speaker 1: protect yourselves up here, guys. Let's have a great summer together. Okay,

2933
02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:46,320
Speaker 1: let's live our lives. Let's do this right, Let's stop

2934
02:04:46,360 --> 02:04:50,000
Speaker 1: being like sad. Let's end the stress crap. All right

2935
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:53,480
Speaker 1: for a lettlet on BC, we are here. No next

2936
02:04:53,520 --> 02:04:53,720
Speaker 1: week