WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Jumbo Joe Package 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:06.560 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:16.400 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys flowing out of 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:21.320 the backfield, the flooding down the sidelines. This He's Hanging 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:25.680 with the Boys, presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:31.080 its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:40.080 and Shannon Gross Thursday eleven thirty. And you know what 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.240 that means. It is time for the people show Hanging 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.919 with the Boys. You're looking live at Tostito's Championship Plaza 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.080 outside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. Looks weird 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:55.240 out there, man, looks really weird. Weird color sixty seven degrees, 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.040 the highest seventy three. The low to night is sixty. Chris. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.360 Something weird is going on in my ears? Is them 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.000 boards on the ground up there? We go. No, that's uh, 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.280 that's concrete. I think it's I think it's wet. Yeah, 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.920 that's wet. So wait, why y'all buttoned up today? Nate? Yeah, 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.039 I just finish doing his show. Man, he's just doing 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.440 his special edition thing. Man, And uh, you look good. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.560 Why did you take your tie off? Well? I took 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.280 it all off. Man, because I know my boy loon. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.640 Wait wait wait wait, don't ruin it. Hurry up, hurt, 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.959 How are you doing. I'm good, I'm good. You're gonna 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.360 hurry up? All right. We would like to welcome to 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.800 the show for the next two days someone that's familiar 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.960 with the Cowboys and the Giants, although he basically had 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:35.520 a cup of coffee in New York and we'll talk 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:40.800 about that too. Freak up our favorite offensive linemen of 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.880 all time, Johmbo Joe Looney, welcome on the show too. 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.400 That's up, man. I appreciate the guy's ass. How have 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.440 you been. I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Do those 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.920 headphones fit over the hair? They do? They do? You know, 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:54.680 I didn't wear my head band today, you know, to 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.680 get to get the swag out, you know. Okay, I 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.960 like it and uh but but but they feel great. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.200 You know, these bows are really nice. They're coming, you know. 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:03.600 You know, I got some good news and I got 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:07.600 some bad news. And the good news is that Luny 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.160 is on our show. The good news is that he 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.800 did not play for the Giants. The bad news is 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.880 when you left, Man, you left a gap for Jason 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:21.040 Garrett Man I know boy. Yeah, yeah, man, he ouched 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.520 from me. That's what I'm saying. You know when I 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.400 when I went into his office. Man, you know, me 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.360 and me and Coach Garrett, we really we got we 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.919 got emotional right, right, man, because I'm you know, Coach 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.880 Garrett was my guy. You know, we joked on each other, 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.160 laughed with each other, and you know, when I was 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.120 telling him I was retired, that was probably you know 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.160 the hardest thing that I had to do was to 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:44.240 tell him, yeah that I'm done, right and uh but 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.320 you know what, man, hopefully our past cross again, you know, 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.280 because I love Coach Garrett. Man, it was a good dude, 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.679 you know, I know he vouched for me up there, 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.680 and hopefully I can see him again one day. In 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.400 Shane's hand, Yeah, I'm good. Tell us talk us to 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.679 I think we know me and Nate know your story 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.320 because you were on cross Talk with us one night. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:03.280 But talk us through how you kind of departed here, 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.560 how you wound up in New York, how long your 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.160 stay was, what that was like, and then and then 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.880 how you wound up in the studio today. Yeah. So basically, 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.160 you know, we got done with the twenty twenty season 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:17.639 and you know I still wanted to play a year. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:19.320 I didn't know, you know, I was still I was 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.040 up in the air a little bit about playing. But um, 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:25.760 you know, I waited until summer came around. Training camps 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.280 kind of started, and the Giants called me and wanted 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:30.440 to pick me up. And I was like, you know, 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.720 I mean, I've never said no to playing some football. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.720 So you know, I went out there and man, boy, 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.120 I tell you what, it was a long time. I 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:42.000 was there a long time. Four day Oh yeah, you know, 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.680 I got my contracts worth out of the Giants, and uh, 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.800 I was up there, man, And I was missing my wife, 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.480 I was missing my kids, and you know I had 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.480 to in the back of my mind my son's first 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.320 football season. I wanted to be there for him. And 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.760 you know, I made the decision to retire. It was tough, though. 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.200 It was tough, man, you know. I remember. I remember 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.920 Alfred Morris was there, and I remember walking off the 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:06.960 field thinking, man, you know, just like I was. I 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:08.600 was trying to take it all in, just trying to 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:13.160 smell the grass and whatnot. But I did nate, I did, 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.560 you know. NFL practices are tough. I did have a 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.000 thought in there to just be you know what, I'm 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.800 done with practice. You know, I'm gonna say my backs 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.560 hurt and then I'm out here, you know. But I 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.840 was like, you know what, I'm betta give the game. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.320 I'm gonna give the game everything you gave me. So 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.520 I finished the practice. But you knew before practice I'm done. 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.800 You know. It was when I walked, we were we 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.960 were doing one on ones, we were doing five on four, right, 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:37.760 and you know, this is a drill where the defense 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.040 and offensive line you're just you're killing each other, right, 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:41.560 you know, it is just you know, it is a 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.719 full on war. You know, the defense knows its past. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.159 And as the center, you're sitting there in the middle 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:48.880 and you're just taking hits. You know, it's just you 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.160 can't do anything. You're just getting beat up. And I'm 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:56.560 sitting there and I'm getting hitting. I don't know if 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.520 it's just for me anymore. I don't know if I want, 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.560 you know, three hundred pound grown man hitting me, you know, 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.599 especially big Lawrence up there. Man, I'm just like, oh good. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:07.880 So you know I sat there and I knew then 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.800 I'm like, all right, you know what, after this practice, 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:11.520 this is gonna be it. You know, I'm gonna I'm 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.560 gonna tell the guys in the morning. And uh but 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.840 but I told myself, you know, I'm gonna finish this practice, 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.400 give the game, give the game what it deserves. And 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:24.640 lo and behold, blessed Joe, how blessed him. I we 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:30.559 got to do some condition and after practice, and growing 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.120 up in Little league, you know, as a as a 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.600 big man, I won't say, you know, I don't know 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.200 if we say fat on this fat, I'm gonna sat 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.719 he says fat all the time. But as a big 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.719 kid growing up running laps in little league, you know, 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.520 we practice at a baseball field, So running laps, I 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.480 was probably the worst thing that ever happened to me. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.520 You know. My dad was my coach, and I would 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.560 look at him, you know, he running the lap, and 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.040 I'd look at him me, you know, in my little 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.480 eight year old mind. You know, my my little eight 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.680 year old mom was really giving him the business that 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:05.320 you think I'm telling us to run a lot. And 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:10.520 so I finished my career conditioning, running, you know, across 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.960 the field. Yeah, And it was it was only right. 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:14.560 It was only right at that time to be like, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.080 all right, yeah, this is this is why I got 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.720 this is it. God's telling me this is done. So 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.480 you know I got a really hard conditioning, wasn't it? 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.920 Didn't I think? Remember reading like he put you guys 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:28.159 to the paces. That does Yeah he did. Boy, you know, 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.160 I understand why Coach Judge did it. You know, I 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.000 understand why he did it. But even in the back 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.039 of my mind, I'm sitting there running the sprints and 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.719 I'm like, literally there, no, I'm on the so do 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.640 this rutted laps? Do it? Push ups? You gotta be 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.440 kicked me. But it was fun though. It was fun man. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:46.919 Like I said, you know, I took I took it 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:50.560 all in, you know, really really, when I unstrapped that 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.240 helmet for the last time, you know, took my cleats off, 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.080 I made sure, you know, I got that smell of 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.279 the grass. And I'll never forget it. I'll never forget 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.440 walking off that field knowing like, hey, this was the 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.159 last time I was buttoning up my tens strap, putting 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.160 on my pads to play organized football. You know who knows? 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:07.920 I might? I might. I might you know, get into 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.960 a flag league around here. People, yeah, talk to me, 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:13.480 you know, people might see me, and you know it 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.640 might not think that. You know this guy, you know, 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.680 he's got some pounds on him, but you know, little 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.960 due they now, I'm gonna be out there CD laming, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.040 so I'll get back to playing some organized flag football, 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.040 you know, giving them the masses out here. Yeah, when 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.840 did you know it was over? Nate? When were you done? 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.840 H Wow? I was in I was in the Carolina 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:38.920 Pounces camp and uh and I and I you know what, 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.320 I give you my aid because I ain't had a 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.920 guts to quit. I just was floating through up there 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:50.160 with coach Wise. You know that's Jesus. But fortunate for me, 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.440 they didn't want me to play. They just wanted me 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:56.360 to do Boy. Yes, sir, that's a good thing. And 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.160 I got through the year. I got there, got you know, 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:04.120 so the surgeon, I'm try and I was happy. You 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:05.720 tell us about what happen when I you know, I 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.960 was the biggest highest Paige cheer leader when that thing 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.840 was over. And uh, my agent coming to hey man, 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.400 I'm trying to negotiate something. But then I don't want 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.840 to do that, and I said, thank you because I 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:21.680 don't want to tune that. Yeah, ran you so yeah, 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.320 I was happy when it was over because you know, man, yeah, yeah, 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.840 you know, but you know when your skills had though, 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.320 was your skills hadn't erode it? My skills? Oh they 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.240 were through. Yeah, my skills were through. When did Kurt? 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.480 When did you decide to quit? I'm still working on that. 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.280 Are Ain't you a baseball extraordinary? I wouldn't say extraordinaire, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:47.760 but I'm a fan. What was your big thing, Shanna? What? 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.960 Sports wise? What was your baseball? I was so small 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.160 when I was fifteen. I was five three way one 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.600 hundred and three. But what about now? So what about now? 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.520 I five four way one hundred and seven? Take some 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:03.360 of that. I was so small, Like I played I 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:07.360 played football one season and my best friend was a big, 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.200 big guy. Yeah, and he fell on me one practice 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.280 and his knee drove into my thigh on and I 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.280 got like a deep thigh bruise, and I was like, 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.200 this is not for me, Like I'm done. I'm gonna 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.400 finish the year out right, but I'm done. And I 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.800 kind of regret that because I wound up growing a 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.400 little bit and I was really fast. I was really quick, 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.840 and I think I probably could have played D two 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.480 or D three, probably could have played slot, maybe maybe 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:33.480 even corner. Julian Edelman. Yeah, just you know, I was, 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.480 I was. I wasn't long distance fast, but like off 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.760 the line, I could, I could get it. Oh yeah, 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.600 And I kind of regret that I played basketball for 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.400 one year about the same time, and then I just 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.600 I decided, like baseball is my thing. I gonna stick 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.280 with baseball. So yeah, I just but wow, yeah that 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:55.320 was it. So Chris, do you play any sports besides bags? Man? 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.760 I played football? Yeah, I ran track, did you Yeah, 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.600 I play football, And that's a long time ago, wasn't 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:06.600 it nineties? Shot put track? Non? Did you ever go 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.360 hunting as a kid, Chris, of course? So yeah, yeah, 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:14.000 Oka cornholes like a professional sport. Now good good, he 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:18.240 was good, let's go. Hey, what's up? Challenged me. I 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.439 had a I went to get my hair cut a 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.200 few years ago and the kid was kid was sitting 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:24.480 in the chair next to me and the you know, 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.199 the girl he's probably he was probably twelve, and the 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.640 girls cutting his hair talking to him. She's like, what 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:30.679 do you know, what do you want to do when 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:31.959 you get older? And he's like, you know, I really 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.559 like this cornhole stuff. It's like, I think I want 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.439 to be a professional cornhole player. I'm like, are you 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.280 freaking kids? Like kids are wanting to grow up and 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.679 be cornhole players. Well, I'll tell you what. I got 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:46.160 a great story about cornhole because I'm a competitor deep inside. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.760 And me and Tyron we we met these people from 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.319 UH in Dallas and they were they were wonderful, but 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.120 they lived in this beautiful neighborhood and they were throwing 0:10:56.280 --> 0:11:00.480 UH their daughter a birthday party. And me, tying my sister. 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.640 We went over to their house and you know, they 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:06.640 had these cornhole boards and all little kids are coming 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:08.520 to play corn hoole and whatnot, you know, And I'm 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:10.920 looking and I'm looking at Tyring. I'm like, hey, these 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.240 kids step up on these boards. You know, you try 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:17.520 to give him. You know, you're gonna get this competitor 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:21.560 out of me. So long story short, man, Me and Tyring. 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.040 You know Tyring can play some cornhole. Yeah, yeah, that 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.199 was my partner. Boy man, boy, you just about we 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.680 will go on there. You know, Johnsonville Sausage. Just put 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.360 us on there. Man, give us the t church we're 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.360 gonna does he put the bionic arm on when he played. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:35.840 It might help him out. It might help out because 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.800 sometimes you know, Tyran's got all that strength, he just 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.319 throws it over, throws it over the board. But man, 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.320 what you know? Heck of a partner. But those kids 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.960 stepped up on them boards, man, and they figured out 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:50.200 real quick the same game. Boy, you gotta come correct 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.199 if you don't get bad, and you need to get 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.880 a guy for Chris. You need to get with Chris. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.640 Chrison in the league. He's in the cornhole league. I 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.720 didn't realize that, Yeah, we got to do this, might 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.400 have an partner, Chris. Let's all right, what's the contract 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:09.400 offered me? So it's the best type believe you get. 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.240 You get your name on a trophy that stays at 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:15.800 the bar for the rest of your life. It's like 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:20.439 the Stanley Cup, the Cornhole Cup. I got my name 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:23.160 on the cup like four times. Do you really that's awesome? 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:24.959 I tell you what, Chris, Let's take an early break 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:29.440 and we come back. 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Photo Yeah, Hellman 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.080 said every time he opens an email from HR, there's 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.520 Joe and his ugly sweater and his modeling career here. Yeah, 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:54.040 little model got the got the boot bounce boot bounce 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.760 going on in here? Oh Man? All right, Nate, So 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.880 this is a great show because everyone in the world 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.800 is griping about the offensive line and Dak Prescott is 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.920 trash right now? Is what the what the world thinks? 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.240 What do you think? We have two offensive lineman, one 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:15.000 that's freshly removed from this this this environment and this 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.240 organization and still knows all the guys on the team 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.000 are there any offensive lineman you don't know, I don't 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.200 think so I take. I think I pretty much know everybody, 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.080 all the guys. So what is your assessment, Nate, and 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:27.680 then we'll get to you, Joe. What do you think 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.040 about the offensive line and where it's at right now? 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.520 I think this here and I'm just gonna give you 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.680 an overall view of what I think is when you 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.480 can rush thirty five times and be right at three 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.000 point nine four yards carry and have one hundred and 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:46.840 twenty two yards and you pass blocked decent. And this 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.880 last team didn't have the two great defensive ends, but 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.160 they had two guys in the middle, and you you 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.840 hammered this out. You you made this, And I think 0:16:55.920 --> 0:17:00.280 that don't stop shuffling, get you right tackle, get your 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.840 left guard, let's go because stop shuffling. Yeah, you said 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:08.040 don't stop shuffling, but you say right, yeah, lock them in. Now. 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:12.639 I think offensive line is okay because this is thirty 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.280 two teams and I think we're probably still one of 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:19.400 the top fifteen offensive line teams. So that's what I feel, 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.639 just the overview and not being specific on any player. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.680 That's what I feel because Coach Field and I think 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.320 is a decent coach and he'll figure it out. That's 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:31.879 what I believe. Yeah, so I think from from an 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:37.280 offensive lineman standpoint, I think that you know, the offensive 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.240 line is gonna have the finger pointed at them. You know, 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.639 they're the biggest guys on the team, and you know 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.160 they're gonna have the finger pointed at them. And always 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.800 always found it like, yo, yeah, point the point the 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.280 finger at us. You know that we got big shoulders. 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.160 We can handle this. You know we're not We're not soft. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:52.880 We ain't gonna run away crying. You know, we're gonna 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.160 strap up our pad, strap up our helm and come 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:56.680 to work every day. And dude, we need to do. 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.960 But I think if you criticize one guy, you criticize 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.800 the whole group. You know, because the offensive line, as 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.359 we know, is the only it's the only really unit 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.080 on the team. You know, you gotta you gotta be 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.639 in unisons when you're playing. And so if you you 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.760 criticize one guy, you're criticizing the whole group. And I 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:16.000 always found criticism is something good. You know, people see 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:17.680 it as something you know, it's it's bad that they're 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.680 talking about. No, no, no, this is a. This is 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.119 a great way to find out who you are. You know, 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.240 how you don't if you know, if you're not putting 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.399 the tough situations, then you ain't gonna figure out that 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.840 you are tough. So I always thought it was great, 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.040 you know, give me that criticism because I'm you know, 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:32.800 I think we live in and you know, I'm gonna 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.639 prove you wrong generation right, and I'm gonna go out 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.359 here and show you guys. Hey, I'm one of the 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.520 best to do it. That's why I got this star 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.320 on the side of my helmet. So you know, I 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.120 always started, you know, give us that criticism and we'll 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.760 use it as something positive. Do you see anybody go ahead? Well, well, 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.720 I mean just now, a lot of the media think 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:52.720 that they're going to bring Connor Williams back in for 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:56.440 this this last tretch. And I think you were talking 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.639 about shuffling of the line, that's what you're saying. I mean, 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:00.840 how difficult does that for the other guys on the 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.880 line when you're sort of moving pieces in and out. Yeah, 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.000 that is it is something difficult. You can't you can't 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.119 hide the fact that you know you need you need 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:13.680 five guys playing consistent up there and you know when 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.240 when when coaches got to make these decisions, you know 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:20.879 they're they're not easy decisions. And once, once, just like 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.200 Nate said, once you make a decision, you gotta stick 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.040 with it. You gotta stick with it. Because the best 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.239 way to learn the game is by getting reps, right, 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.520 you gotta be out there playing the game. It's one 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.560 thing to be in practice getting these reps. But if 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.080 you're gonna be out there and you're gonna roll with 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.680 a guy, you know. I always thought, man, if you're 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.560 gonna roll with me, let me, let me go out 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.200 there and play, you know. And one of the ways 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:44.320 you learn to play the game is by making mistakes. 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:46.480 You know, if you get if you get a linebacker 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:49.159 and you you you miss a protection, you know, and 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:51.200 he runs in and sacks the quarterback, you kind of 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.119 look at yourself and you're like, Okay, I can't let 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.159 that happen again. You go to the film room, you 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.520 look at that and you learn from it. You learn 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.800 from it, and that's how that's how you get better 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.000 at planning in the NFL. Just like I said, one 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:04.560 thing to be out there at practice, but when you're 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:06.800 in the game and you're getting those live reps and 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:08.840 you're under fire. That's the best way to learn how 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:10.399 to play. Yeah, so what do you what do you 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:14.159 attribute the I guess the offensive because it's flipped. Beginning 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.119 of the year, we were worried about the defense, and 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.960 it's like, we're gonna hang forty on everybody like we're 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.120 gonna hang forty, but we're gonna give up thirty nine. 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.240 But we'll be good because we're gonna win out. Now 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:27.080 it's like, okay, the defense is clicking. Now if the 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:29.480 offense can get it together, like nobody's gonna want a 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:31.280 piece of this team. But what do you see what's 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.040 holding the offense back right now? A lot of people 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:35.879 say it's offensive line. Nate thinks Zeke's banged up with 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.359 the knee and that's what's going on with him. A 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:40.359 lot of fans are talking about play call and a 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.040 lot of fans are down on deck right now. What 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.080 do you see is preventing them from putting up the 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:45.880 points they were in the beginning of the season. Well, 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.879 I think you definitely need a strong running game as 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:51.960 an offensive lineman. And even growing up with football, my 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.439 dad always preached, you know your run will open up 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.720 your pass. And you know, if you're getting three yards 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.320 two yards in the beginning of a game and that's 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.200 how you start the game, well that's okay, you know, 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:05.360 because as you as you go on throughout the game, 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.360 you run some outside zone inside zone power. You get 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.280 these defensive linemen up there running around and you get 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.320 them tired. So by the time you get to the 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.879 fourth quarter, those three yard two yard games that you 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:19.000 were getting in the first quarter, those open up to 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.760 fifteen twenty and maybe your break one like Tony Poler 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.520 did in the Saints game, and you you stick with it, 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.040 and then I think that, you know, it takes the 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:30.840 pressure off of everybody. You know, when you're running the football, well, 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.560 you're grinding other teams down, you're controlling the clock, and 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.040 then you open up for all these weapons you got 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.720 on the outside. You got CD, you gotta mary. It's like, 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.439 you know, you you look and Kellen could look at 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:44.200 his place sheet and be like, man, I could really 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:47.560 call anything right now. So I think that, you know, 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:49.720 you gotta stick with the running game. You gotta stick 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:51.760 with you know, even even if it's not working in 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.159 the beginning of the game, stick with it. Pound that 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.000 ball and good thing. Good things are gonna happen. Yeah, 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.280 that's been one of the criticism, hasn't been they've given 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.880 up on the run to earlier, not this past game. 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:07.000 And this is what's ugly and this is what makes 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:11.680 playoff football so great, is what Looney saying. I agree 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:13.440 with one hundred percent, because now if you continue to 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.560 run the ball, if your defense is playing great, what 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:19.240 you want now is to limit the times these touched 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:22.560 the field. So by that's why I said thirty five carries, 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:27.320 that's thirty two minutes on average. So now your defense 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:32.280 is only playing twenty eight minutes, twenty six minutes with 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:36.560 this defense. Okay, and that's what he's telling about. Every 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:40.480 time the offensive line gives you a one to two 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:42.960 yard game, and even in the fourth quarter, if it's 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.800 still going like that, but you're carrying the ball, everything 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:50.000 else opens up everything. Let me ask you this that 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:54.080 we have seen or so, it seems that dak seems 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:57.119 almost to function better when they're playing on a hurry up, 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.679 faster paced offense. How do you balance that helping him 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:04.240 out with keeping the running game going, keeping the defense 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:06.280 off the field. That sort of thing you can still 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:08.800 run the ball. I mean, go back to when he 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:12.440 was in Mississippi. They fast paced, they still ran the ball. 0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:16.040 The difference zeals right here, Fellas. And I hate to 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:20.000 say this because but the only thing that's different about 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:24.919 all of this is Dak doesn't run anymore. Dak had 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.720 a chance to make a three yard or four yard 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.720 first down and he chose to sit and throw the 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:34.719 ball away or take the sack. And and I'm just wondering, 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:38.840 is Dak gonna say, hey, you know what, if it's 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:41.119 easy the first down to keep my team on the field, 0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:43.120 let me go on to get this easy first down 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.560 because you can still slide. I mean, yeah, yeah, that's 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:52.280 a horrific incident last year. But still now you're you're 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.119 you're trying to be something. And I don't want to 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.639 be critical of another man's talent, but he's not a 0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:03.960 pure drop back quarterback. He's not that. Yeah. Yeah, And 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:07.720 so I understand you're trying to maneuver into pocket, but 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:10.480 you gotta move around a little bit and you gotta 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.959 help your team. Yeah, And I think too, going off 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.880 of your point, you know, we all know the athlete 0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:18.320 Dak is, Yes, And I think we all understand, you know, 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.480 the criticisms he's been you know, you know, nailed with 0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.399 this this past week. And uh, I think it's I 0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.399 think for Dak, you know, just being around him, you know, 0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:29.920 it's it's kind of an illusion, you know that he's 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.360 seeing right now, he's being compared to all these other guys. 0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:35.280 When you're being compared to these other guys in the NFL, 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.240 you feel like, oh man, you know this, this, this 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:38.879 is what I gotta do to be one of the 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.760 one of the greats. It's like, look that you're already 0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.119 one of the greats by doing what you do. And 0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:45.960 you know, I think one of the great things that 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:48.639 I loved hearing coach Garrett say is he said, you know, 0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:50.679 no one know you know, when you're going out there, 0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:52.880 you got to know who you are, know what you're doing, 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:55.360 and just let it, let it fly, let it play. 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.480 And that's one of the things. And I think as 0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:02.679 a competitor, you know Dak, I think, you know, I myself, 0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:04.960 you know, I was my hardest critic, and I know 0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:08.320 I know Dak is the same way. And he's gonna 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:09.840 see that and he's gonna understand, Hey man, I just 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:11.080 gotta go out here and be a kid to get 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.160 him do what I need to do and play football. 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:14.879 You know, if I see something open up, hey, I'm 0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:16.679 gonna take it. And you know, and if I get 0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.720 criticized on, you know, getting the first down on a 0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.320 three yard running maybe somebody's open downfield that I don't see. 0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:24.520 You know what, we got a first down. I'm helping 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.440 my team out. You know, It's not about the criticism anymore. Yeah, 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:31.720 because what he what As you get closer close to 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:35.280 the playoffs, it's gonna be about that first down. You know. 0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:38.160 It's gonna be about can I get enough first downs 0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:39.879 to get me into this red zone and then we 0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.800 can work on the red zone, you know, because I 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.680 tell people the hardest thing to work on in practice 0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:50.040 his red zone because that is when the fire and 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.119 it's in a small place exactly. So now you need 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:54.879 to get to the red zone as many times you 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:56.840 can to try to try to work this out because 0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:00.199 that you know, gold line short yard is able. One 0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:02.480 way you can do that, and that's wide open. You 0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.119 can't do a short yardist play if you're doing it 0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.200 at three quarters, it ain't gonna never work because you're 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.280 gonna get what you get in the game, that's what 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:10.480 you need to throw it to one of the fat 0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:16.800 boys down there something, you know what I'm saying. We 0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:20.560 were talking about that before the show. Uh every game day, 0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.080 me and Chris would like bump each other because seventy 0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.880 three would be eligible. What was five to ten times 0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.920 a game probably, oh yeah, And I would just I 0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.760 was just waiting for Jumbo Joe to catch a pass 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.760 and it just never happened. I tell you what. There 0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:38.400 were moments though, and I'll tell you what I think. 0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:40.680 I think when you're when you're in the moment, you know, 0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.320 and you know the game plan. This was a couple 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.520 of years ago. We were playing the Lions and Callahan 0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:49.639 was the uh ROC and we had a play for 0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:54.320 old Jumbo Joe and you know, we get down to 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:56.359 the two yard line where the players install. So you 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.280 had you had to you had to play install for 0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.560 this game. I mean, yeah, the players stalled for the 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.720 for the game, all the planets, the line. You know, 0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.320 you hear Jumbo package Jumbo, you know, And I felt like, 0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.680 you know, I'm not I'm I'm watching myself play the game. 0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:13.600 Now you come running and rubbing yourself like three were boys. 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:16.800 You know, you just kind of you kind of in 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:18.600 the huddle and you hear Dak. You know, I don't 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.080 even hear what he says, but it's kind of like 0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:24.200 waiting break slow motion, and I line up, you know, 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:29.119 and you know, bless me that you know, it wasn't 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:33.440 the plane. It wasn't the play that was in the heart. 0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.080 And I didn't even I didn't even listen to Day. 0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:37.840 I was like, man, this is irrelevant. You just knew 0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.080 it was your planet. This is irrelevant. Just line the 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.240 guys up. We know what's going on here. Just get 0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.199 them to the line. Dak, and man, I start jogging 0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.960 over to my place. You know, I'm putting, making sure 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:49.520 I got my stick them on my hands, you know. 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:53.400 So I catch the ball. Dak looks at me over 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.560 here and I'm walked in like I'm like, what's the plane? Man? 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.360 Show gee? And I'm like, man, they're kidding me. All 0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.040 are stealing this from me, y'all are not stealing my moment. 0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:07.920 But that's how, that's how my, that's how my. That 0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.639 was your receiving career, that was what I receiving. Zero yards, 0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:15.760 zero yards, zero tips. 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And I tell 0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.760 you what, I love these kids. They were. They were great. 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.200 They had all the heart in the world. We didn't 0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.960 win a game this season. Coaching next year, I am. 0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:32.200 I am coaching next year in Frisco. Huh Okay, my 0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.440 son is Is is six, so it'll be the same 0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.240 as your son. Oh yeah, get him on the squad, 0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.320 get him on the squad. We need to go. Uh huh. 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:42.600 But they they were great, so you know, I do 0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.280 got that coaching experience. Yeah, if they you know, if 0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:47.760 they need somebody, Okay, we'll talk to him about My 0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.520 son's more of a big man though. Yeah, we'll get him. 0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.680 Score Chris as kids gonna be he's gonna be six. Chris, 0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:59.080 he is six already. Yeah. Yeah, he's sad and he 0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:06.880 looks like he's forty three. Yeah. Son. Um, So we 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:10.360 talked about offense. Joe, what's your assessment of the defense? 0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:12.040 What do you what do you think about these guys? 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.640 I mean, I love it. I love it, you know, 0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:16.720 I mean, you're watching this defense. You know, my dad 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:18.600 always said, you know, when you're on defense and it 0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:22.000 makes you want to get cuckoo for cocoa pobs is 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:25.080 absolutely amazing. And uh I was I was telling you 0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.040 guys a little story, you know, back in twenty and 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:28.760 eighteen when we were playing the Saints. You know, it's 0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.640 a really close game and our defense was just, you know, 0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.040 ridiculous at the time, and knowing, hey, man, you know 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:37.120 if we if we gotta pump the ball, we can 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:38.680 rely on these guys to go out here and do 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.000 their job, you know, just like Nate said, or you know, 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.120 I was the we're the biggest cheerleaders out there. You know, 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.400 give me some pump pumps, white boots and whatnot, and 0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:47.240 I'm gonna be going out there. You know, what's the 0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.080 what's the high kicks that they do to us on 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:52.240 the side by, you know, because you know understruck, Yeah, 0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.600 a little thunderstruck. Man, we know that these guys are 0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:55.960 gonna go out here and get the job done and 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.360 do what we need to do. So I mean, you know, 0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.280 I think we all we all know, man, defense wins 0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.040 championships and offense sales tickets, you know, and it's it's 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.600 wonderful to see all these points being put up. But 0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.400 to be able to hold that trophy, you know, I 0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.800 think defense has a lot of play to going to that. Yeah, 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:15.880 what do you think about Micah Oh? I mean, you know, 0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:17.760 to come in and do what he's doing as a rookie. 0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.520 And I talk about this a lot. I was a 0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:23.160 cocky rookie before nine on seven drill in my first 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:26.680 training I was, you know, I was like, yeah, you know, 0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:29.440 I'm gonna come in. I'm four year starter in college, 0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:32.600 true freshman. What's up man? The NFL just a joke. 0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.920 I'm gonna come here and owned this league. Justin Smith 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:39.400 humbled me really quick, really quickly, with out humble you quit, 0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:41.680 you know, with Patrick Willis is coming in and feeling 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.440 a hole, the varl bowman coming down, it humbles you. 0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:47.280 So to see what he's doing as a rookie, it's 0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.080 really it's really spectacular, you know, because you don't you 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:53.600 don't see rookies come in and just dominate the way 0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:54.960 they do. I think, you know, they were showing a 0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:57.560 play the other day when he was going up against Schriff. 0:33:57.720 --> 0:33:59.800 Schriff yea up there, and I mean this is a 0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.560 pro bowler, bowler, just a pro bowler, man. I mean 0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.000 like this, dude, this ain't no slap. You know, this guy, 0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:06.920 this guy is a monster, and he just you know, 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.960 hits him with a move and zack fumble. You know. 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.000 So I think it's I think it's special. It's special 0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.359 for him, it's special for the fans, and it's it's 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.840 enjoyable to watch, you know, seeing seeing someone like that 0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.600 have so much success. What what do you think about 0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:23.720 his comments? The NFL is easy? Who said that? Michael? 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:30.000 It is fam I'm with you. Come in. I came 0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:31.480 in and got to have him a dropped on me 0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.040 a couple of time, like wow, this ain't thoughts, specially 0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.759 coming from Florida and him. You know so, But I 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:38.359 think you know too. You see a lot of these 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:39.880 a lot of a lot of cats, you know, and 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.920 you break talent down in the NFL. Everybody in the 0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:45.880 NFL has talent, and you know, I thought it, you know, 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:48.480 but you see these guys like a Michael Parsons, a 0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.960 Tyrant Smith. These guys just goat whatever. You know. It's 0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:55.080 it's the god gene. Yeah, it's this God and them 0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:58.200 that just like these dudes man, I mean, just built 0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.880 to play football. You I mean, it's like a it's 0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:02.880 like a second ager. They just walk out there and 0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.440 they're good. So it's it's it's fun to see. It's 0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:06.719 fun to watch, you know. I mean, you get a 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.560 player like that on your team. That's been official for you. 0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:13.879 We'll take it, ready to break. Did you ever played defensive? All? 0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:17.640 I did? H Huh? I did I do? I did? 0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.640 I played. I played some defense in high school. And 0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:22.920 uh and then literally, you know I talk about I 0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:24.879 had I had a great Literally you know, my dad 0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:26.960 was my coach, and you know he would line me 0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:28.759 right up over the center and be like you take 0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:30.799 him and you put him right in the quarterbacks lap 0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:38.680 and I just look at him, yes, sir, Yeah, and uh, 0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:40.960 you know it was great. But I always loved the 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.560 offensive line play, you know, I just you know, you're 0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.200 not in the spotlight. You're with a group of guys. 0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:48.160 And that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to, 0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.680 you know, be with a group of guys and you know, 0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:52.800 go out there and smash them guys, because you know, 0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:56.120 when when when when when teams do rush two hundred 0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.960 yards and whatnot? Running backs? You know, quarterbacks get all 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:01.960 the praises for how many yards they passed for, how 0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.360 many yards they rushed for. But deep down inside, we 0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:08.799 know you know you didn't head coach, How was your game? Yeah? 0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.160 You played some defense, too, didn't you? Yeah? Yeah, all 0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.680 the way to college. Yeah, you actually like defense better 0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.440 than Yeah, I do, and that's why I root for him. 0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.600 A little bit harder to do the offense, you know, 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.440 even though it's harder to play offensive line. You know, 0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:26.080 let me get change of you. Okay, all right, coacher man, 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:30.440 Yeah what a mess? Huns a mess man. Definitely pay 0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.479 that dude all that money to do all that work. 0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:37.399 You can reconstruct your whole program and get one guy 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.520 three thirteen games and that's a shame, man, I mean. 0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:45.000 But anyway back, the more important things we win it. Yeah, seriously, 0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:46.640 I was I was telling my wife about this, sorry, 0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.200 because you know, I was telling my wife about this. 0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.839 It's it's tough for coaches to come from college because 0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.200 you're you're you're dealing with grown men and there. Yeah, 0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:55.880 you just can't do whatever you want and say whatever 0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.759 you want to saving ran into the same thing, right, Yeah, 0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:00.719 you know, it's it's it's tough. Man, he's a grown 0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:02.520 man you're dealing with. You know, they're gonna they're gonna 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:04.680 say something back to you, you know. And I've had 0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:07.320 my you know, fair share of runnings with with coaches 0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:10.800 and what oh yeah, nice old jumbuzz John telling you, 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:15.200 you know, in the pros or in the pros really pros, 0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.600 you know, and college they can control you a little better. Yea, 0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.960 in pros not not these kids, not this new generation, 0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.759 but at our generation, a little older coach tell you 0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:25.279 what he wants you to know it and I was 0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:26.960 gonna be it right. And you know, I think you 0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:30.080 get some confidence in you. Uh you kind of you 0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.040 start you start smelling yourself a little too much. You know, 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.400 you have this confidence to speak back to the coach. 0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:38.960 And you know, I definitely, I definitely, and I'm not 0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:40.680 I'm not happy about it. I'm not proud of it. 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.279 But you know, I think there's some things that you 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:44.600 just you know, as as a man, you know, we 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:46.480 all we all respect each other, and you know, you 0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.920 gotta you gotta have you gotta show that respect to 0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:51.560 get it. And you know I was raised to, you know, 0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.359 give respect no matter what. And I think you get 0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.840 there to a certain extent. But if you keep poking 0:37:56.880 --> 0:38:00.359 the bear, Yeah, you put that dog in the corner, right, 0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:04.720 come out, Barden. Nobody puts Looney in the corner. Nobody 0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:07.239 puts Baby in the corner. Well see Kurt's Kurt's happy 0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:12.400 that that Zeke's banged up because he's no, no, no, 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.040 don't throw me under that bus. It's not true. They're 0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.719 spreading lies. What's what's the status of Pollard? Has he 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:20.719 been practicing this week? He was out there today. They 0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.080 said he stretched and he did some work with Britt 0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:25.480 on the side, and then he joined the team for 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:27.960 some things. But you know, he wasn't heavy into the 0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:31.000 drills or whatever. So they're hopeful. They're hopeful, and Nate, 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.319 you think they can. You think they can run the ball, 0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:37.400 no matter if it's Clement and Hearty out there, right. 0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:39.920 I really believe that. I believe that these guys are 0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:43.600 good enough to run the ball. I think that thirty 0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:46.760 five carries one hundred twenty two yards no matter who's carried. 0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.279 That's not that's not that's not to be laughed at. 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.120 If if our quarterback just can center himself and get 0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:57.920 himself calmed down, because that's how I think Dak throws 0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:01.080 thirty nine times a game. We run that thing twenty 0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:04.040 five thirty times he throws a thirty and Dak is dad. 0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.000 We cannot be beat. Go back and check the records. 0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.520 We cannot be beat. Well, did you guys feel a 0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.480 lineman that if you did your job, anybody could run 0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:17.080 behind you. Oh yeah I knew, Yeah definitely, yeah, and 0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.480 yeah definitely. But they don't hurt that, they don't hurt 0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:22.640 to have him in. But yeah, i'll tell you what. 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.759 You know it when when a running back. You know, 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.600 Zeke was always in our our run meetings, you know, 0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.000 on Wednesday Thursday morning. He would come to our run 0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.560 meetings and he would tell us, you know, the angles 0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:35.799 that he's gonna be running, that, how he's gonna set 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:37.880 guys up so we can get our blocks, and how 0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:39.759 he's gonna run off of that. And I think when 0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:41.880 you got somebody back there, you know, you already got 0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:43.960 a good offensive line working for you, but when you 0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:46.600 got somebody back there doing that for you, it makes 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:48.800 things easier. It's like, I see it, We'll see in 0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:51.279 the end zone. Dude. Yeah, that's interesting that he would 0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.359 come in and tell you how he's gonna run. Yeah, yeah, 0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:55.040 I thought it was I thought it was important because 0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.000 then you know what what angles you need to take. 0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:58.919 You know, It's like, how do I need to reach 0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.319 this line, you know, the defensive linement at what angle 0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:03.760 do I need to go get the linebacker. When I'm pulling, 0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:06.719 what what number am I aiming for? You know, is 0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:09.440 he gonna take this thing inside or outside? So it's 0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.920 it's it's it's big down to the details of you know, 0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:15.880 running the football. It's just hard for people to understand 0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.960 because when they look at running backs and this is 0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:23.360 the theory, this is you know, you can disagree or agree, 0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:26.879 brother Luna. In high school, when you have a great 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.719 running back, he can go anywhere on the field and 0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:33.239 make a touchdown. In college he has to stay more 0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:35.719 play side, but he still has that ability to bend 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:39.120 it back. In pros, you get a hold, we get 0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.000 a hold, and when you do, you when you think 0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:42.759 you can just go right here to the right tock 0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.000 and make it, just dart back to the to the left, 0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:49.560 to the left guard now holding number sixty one, because 0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:53.240 you gotta stay. You gotta give to play a chance. 0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.960 Because these athletes are so great on defense, they can 0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.120 react so fast. So you can be going, I can 0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:00.640 be going up to the second leve. I could be 0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:02.400 me and lude could be working. I could be the 0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:04.040 right guard and we're going. I'm going up to the 0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.560 second level as you. But you're reading through me so 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.600 quick to wh he makes that jerky move all of 0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:11.439 a sudden, I got you, you know what, I'm saden, 0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.560 you flaying and I'm getting the flag. You have to 0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.920 stay more with the play when you get into the 0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.800 pros due to the defense is so much more athletic 0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.680 than it right college. It definitely does. It puts the 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.919 offensive linement and are you know a compromising the physician. Yeah, 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.239 if you know the running back is like, oh well, 0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:30.279 I'm just gonna cut it back right now, right now. 0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:32.080 You know what I think? Uh, you know, I've been 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:33.759 watching a lot of ball this year and you look 0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:35.400 at kind of like a Nagi Harris. You know you 0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.719 gotta learn, Hey, you gotta kind of let that play 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:41.120 develop a little bit. Oh yes, right, give them big 0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.520 guys some time to work up there are set those 0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:46.960 blocks up. You know. Do your jobs changed much drastically, 0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:49.480 if at all? If depending on who who the running 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:53.640 back is? Uh? For for me, we we got guys 0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:57.239 that were more similar to to to E. Now the 0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:01.040 game has changed. Where you you thea in the OFFENSI 0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:04.200 according and I was like, shouldn't know what running back 0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.719 is in there? And help your offensive line have the 0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:10.719 best play for this running back pay Yeah, the play call. Yeah, Yeah, 0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.480 that's that's why it seems to me now as you 0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:15.799 actually had to do it with this new generation. Yeah, 0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.160 Kerr and I think you know, we we would, we 0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.000 would know the difference between you know, each each running 0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.600 back kind of has their little play designs. Yeah, and 0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.600 you know both both you know, Zeke and Tony can 0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.000 they can do it all. But you know, when when 0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:30.719 one guy comes in the game, it's like, okay, you 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.839 know we got we got so many plays that they're 0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:35.640 gonna be running in the game, and we know, you know, 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:37.799 we see them coming in. You know, it's like, all right, 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:40.120 we're running this play and you kind of adjust your 0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:43.000 your blocking style to you know, how they're how they're 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.080 how you know, coaches calling the game. Yeah, that's interesting. 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:49.880 So like Barry Saunders, they whether they wanted to be 0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:51.640 or not, they were gonna be a big draw team. 0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:55.120 And draw is you kind of set and let the 0:42:55.280 --> 0:43:00.080 defense move first, because you know, Barry, Barry gonna it 0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:02.279 there and he looking all of a sudden, he gone, 0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:04.640 He's going where he wants, He going where he wants. 0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.359 So they were more of a big draw team. Where 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.479 it's with him. We was coming forward, we was gonna 0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:13.160 dictate what was gonna be happening, and uh, you know, 0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:15.879 you see that's what I'm sub shot that nobody don't 0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:19.040 do that for Barkley. If I'm if I'm I'm like, 0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:21.520 I'm a big draw team. I'm like, we gonna let 0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:23.400 you declare because I got to do back there that 0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:26.400 can move right, you know, And I think you know 0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:31.399 what's important too, understanding football and you know, Nate, you guys, 0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:35.319 you know, every play is designed to score a touchdown. Yes, 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.799 it is every every time you you know, every time 0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:39.600 you get a play call, you know, it's like, man, 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.200 we could take this one to the crib. You know, 0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.759 it's like, yeah, we're happy with a three four yard 0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:47.719 game because we understand that this is the NFL. It's hard, 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.640 but we're trying to score every time. This every time 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.880 we hear these play calls run past, you know, special 0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:55.880 teams play calls. We're trying to score. We're trying to 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:59.279 score touchdowns, and it usually comes down to basically one 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.759 guy on deep right, like everybody, everybody's assigned to a dude. 0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:04.920 And if you can make that one guy missed, then 0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:08.400 that's where your your touchdown comes in, right that. That's 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.480 why I'm telling everybody, you know, if we just can 0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:17.120 get people didn't know how valuable you was at the 0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:21.720 lunar position, the jumbo that we forgot how valuable Connor 0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:24.959 McGovern was when he was running that position. We gotta 0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:28.200 get a tight end. We gotta get a tight end. 0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:31.839 And so when when when, when, when Parler does come back, 0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:34.359 we can give him some of that outside. We gotta 0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:36.400 be able because they're setting the edge on us. And 0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.279 this is all right. Zeke ain't got no problem with 0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:40.520 hitting up in the Zeke the more to marry you. 0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.480 But with Tony, it ain't gonna be that way, you know, 0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:49.000 get him into into his flavor, you know, so running yeah, 0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:52.680 get him running all right? Fellas well. We're out of time. Kurt, 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:56.239 good seeing you, man, Nate shaking bait, Shako, thanks for 0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:58.640 joining the show. We will see you tomorrow. We take 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.600 phone calls tomorrow. We got we gotta, we got what's 0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.640 the last supposed to know? Somebody else we bringing We 0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:08.160 bring a guest on every Friday now, someone around every corner, 0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:12.120 around every corner, so be prepared. 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