1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Welcome. In episode three one hundred and ninety nine of 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: What's Driving the Grete presented it to you by Boost Mobile, 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: which means tomorrow's Week fourteen gambling show is episode four 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: one hundred. Let me check real quick in real time 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: where we're at on YouTube. 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Demans, how 26 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: are you doing. 27 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic, Pops, how are you doing? 28 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing well. We are approaching the one month birthday 29 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: I guess of Mila, so you know, yeah, month day, 30 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: there you go. So that's coming up in five days. 31 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: And this is terrible. 32 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: Four because it was Monday, and I'm just thinking Monday 33 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: is four days away. The Monday not four days away. 34 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: Definitely, Monday is four days away. You're definitely tripping though 35 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: on a bunch of front. She was not born on 36 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: a Monday. I understand for you. 37 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: It was fog of Oh, it was Sunday. It was 38 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: it was it was a long, long yeah. 39 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: But also that's not really like the it's not gonna 40 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: be Sunday to Sunday because that's just twenty eight days, 41 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: so like her the but regardless, that's coming up, still 42 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: coming back at work, back here, parenting the whole nine. 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: So we've got all that going on. A ton to 44 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: get to today with the single biggest NFL weekend of 45 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: the year. We're gonna get into that sum today and 46 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: some and tomorrow's show. Also, we will do whittling down 47 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: the twenty five Hall of Fame semi finalist two hour 48 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: five to actually make the Hall of Fame something we 49 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: remarkably went perfect on the last time we did it. 50 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: We went five for five with it. Would shocked me 51 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: as much as anybody because that's a damn near impossible 52 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: thing to predict unless it's no brainers. But there's never 53 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: no brainers because so many guys feel like no brainers. 54 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: So we'll do that, and we will start the show 55 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: with is Jannis finally going to be traded? But before 56 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: we get to that, straight to voicemail presented to you 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: by Boost Mobile. Terrence Crawford stripped of his WBC title 58 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: because he wouldn't pay some sanctioning fees. It's so stupid. Listen, 59 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I haven't researched this enough to know 60 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: if Terrence is in the wrong, But even if he's 61 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: in the wrong, I'm on bud side. Like the guys. 62 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: The biggest star boxing has had in a decade. It's 63 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: awesome that he has all these championship belt someone else 64 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: pay those fees. Lakers Celtics preview. We're not going to 65 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: get to that. However, I will say, you know, Luca 66 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: in Slovenia for the birth of his child reportedly, which 67 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: was a little surprising that the mother of his child 68 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: doesn't live here. I think it's his girlfriend. I should 69 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: have researched this more in the States, but regardless, so 70 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna miss some Dina Celtics playing really well and 71 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: the Clippers move on from Chris Paul in embarrassing, very 72 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: clipperish fashion. And I understand that it would appear Lawrence 73 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: Frank has just a ton of friends in the media. 74 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: But at some point someone be like, oh, he's been 75 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: running that team for a decade, has had limitless resources 76 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: in a huge market, and they've never competed for anything. 77 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: This year's team has been an embarrassment from the word go. 78 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: They did create a dynasty potentially, but it's in Oklahoma City. 79 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: Like anybody gonna be like, hey, Lawrence Frank, let's check 80 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: the Ledger on good move, bad move, franchise altering, disaster move, 81 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: and you guys can't figure out I understand, if you 82 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: guys were good and Chris Paul was a nuisance, it's 83 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: one thing. But when you're five and sixteen to be like, yeah, 84 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: Chris Paul's been a pain in the ass behind the scenes. 85 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: Well maybe he's just listen to him, like, what's the 86 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: worst gonna happen if for him just being like, ah, 87 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: we'll try it Chris his way. So there's that reminder 88 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: everybody like rate subscribe to you demons, let's talk you honest. 89 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. So on Tuesday, we talked about how impossible it 90 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: was for Giannis to be catching Lebrono in that all 91 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: time season points. Today we're gonna be talking about how 92 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: possible it is that he's leaving Milwaukie. Do you think 93 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: that's gonna eventually happen? His agent and the Bucks are 94 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: talking about his future there. Janna seems a little fake too, 95 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: What do you mean? I don't know. I feel like 96 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: he says one thing and he always means another thing. 97 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: Like I feel like he did the same thing with 98 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: the like Drew Holiday trade. I feel like he did 99 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: the same thing with this offseason. Anything he wants to 100 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: be there and like he kind of hasn't wanted to 101 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: be there the entire time. 102 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: So this kind of goes back to the Lane Kiffen thing. 103 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: It's very important in life to learn at an early age. 104 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: Nobody gets everything. Nobody gets everything, and there is there 105 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: are trade offs that adults have to make where they 106 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: do the old cliche pros and cons list, and you 107 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: determine what matters most to you and what will make 108 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: you happiest and act accordingly. And when you say Yannis 109 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: has seemed a little fake, what I think is causing 110 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: that is he wants to be beloved in Millilwaukee and 111 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: doesn't want to play for Milwaukee anymore, and he I 112 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: think recognizes those two things might be in conflict. Now, 113 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't think he would ever be reviled or hated 114 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee at large. He's a franchise legend. He delivered 115 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: them their only championship since Kareem there. You know, he 116 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: has been a great NBA citizen and an even greater 117 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: NBA player or vice versa, however you want to look 118 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: at it. He's one of the twenty greatest players ever. 119 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: All of that is that cement is dry, but I 120 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: think he understands that. In whatever is left of his prime, 121 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: which could be, you know, up to four years. Maybe 122 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: he might have that much longer in his prime. This 123 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: buck seems not going to be able to compete for anything. 124 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: They have mortgaged and second mortgaged and taken out payday 125 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: loans on the future, and those bills have all slowly 126 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: but surely come do. And so I think it's pretty 127 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: clear he does want out, and I think it's also 128 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: pretty clear he doesn't know exactly how to do that, 129 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to just straightforward to a trade demand. 130 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: But we are inching towards it, so in today's NBA, 131 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: and by the way, it should also be noted, last 132 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: night it looked like he might have suffered a catastrophic injury, 133 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: the dreaded non contact look back did someone kick me reaction, 134 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: which everybody these days knows that is part and parcel 135 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: with an achilles tear. But we've now had back to 136 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: back big time athletes in a couple of weeks have 137 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: that exact reaction to what appears to be that injury, 138 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: and for both of them it was the far less 139 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: serious but still very scary calf strain to what happened 140 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: with Sauce Gardner. A couple of weeks ago and to 141 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm with Giannis last night, and so I talked with Uh, yeah, 142 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say this. I actually oddly randomly, Uh no, 143 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say who it was. I talked with 144 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: one of the greatest athletes ever, uh, in real time 145 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: about Tyrese Haliburton's achilles right when it happened, and that 146 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: what that person said was in our game, the calf 147 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: strain is the new I think he said acl not 148 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: in that you're out of year with it, but it's 149 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: the most dreaded injury. And it's because there's no way 150 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: this again, this was this guy's opinion, but he would 151 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: know there's no way to rehabit. You simply have to 152 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: stay off it. So I think Yannis, like, here's the 153 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: thing that I think is noteworthy and why I wanted 154 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: to start with this. It is very possible that last 155 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: night was Yannis's last game with the Bucks. That's on 156 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: the board. I might even go as far as to 157 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: say it's the most likely reality because if he has 158 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: to miss weeks, maybe up to a month with a 159 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: calf strain, and obviously he and Milwaukee are going to 160 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: want to be incredibly cautious with this, then come December fifteenth, 161 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, that's eleven days away, and that's when everybody 162 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: who signed this offseason is eligible to be traded. More 163 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: people are eligible to be traded starting the beginning of January, 164 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: and this just could happen in the next month. And 165 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: at this point, I think it is going to happen. 166 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: In the next month. Where do you think will be 167 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: the best landing spot for him? 168 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: So ESPN credit to them, did a good job putting 169 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: together five trades. And this is why I'm I really 170 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: want to credit them, because with the new CBA and 171 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: the aprons, it is very difficult to construct trades that 172 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: actually work. So these five ESPN trades, Bobby Marx has 173 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: given them the stamp of yes, the CBA would allow it. 174 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: The off the board most interesting one that I actually 175 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: think might be the most win win, have a chance 176 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: to compete, go on deep playoff runs, and you could 177 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: sell it to both fan bases, and sadly is the 178 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: least likely to happen is Giannis to the Hawks. So 179 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: here is ESPN's trade, as follows Jannis and Cole Anthony 180 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: for salary reasons for Trey Young and Resa Shay. So 181 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick from a couple of years 182 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: ago in Resa Shay, Trey Young, who's got a couple 183 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: of years left on his deal, and then some really 184 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: juicy picks, most notably the first round pick the Pelicans 185 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: traded to the Hawks, which, keep in mind, here's why 186 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: that trade is so interesting for Milwaukee. That first round 187 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: pick the Pelicans traded to the Hawks, demons is the 188 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: better of New Orleans is picked this year or Milwaukee's 189 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: pick this year. 190 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what Milwaukee. 191 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: Would right, what Milwaukee would then allow for is if 192 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: by trading Yannis you fall apart in the short term, 193 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: you then have the Pelicans ping pong balls and your 194 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: own ping pong balls, right, and whichever is the best 195 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: of those two, you get that pick in this draft. 196 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: Atlanta also has twenty twenty seven first round pick top 197 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: four protected in this trade. That is again, well, this 198 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: is the worst of the Pelicans in the Bucks, but 199 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: maybe you could sweeten it to the better of and 200 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: then a couple other picks. So that to me is 201 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: really interesting. If you keep Jalen Johnson, you keep Dyson, uh, 202 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: Milwaukee then can maybe flip Trey Young as well. And 203 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: Resa Schey was the number one pick of a draft 204 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: and Atlanta, which has proven they're just as good with 205 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: or without Trey Young this season, maybe better without him. 206 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Janis Jalen Johnson, Porzingis when he's out there. It's a 207 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: very interesting team in a wide open East and with 208 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: flexibility moving forward. So that's the one that makes the 209 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: most sense for everybody. I don't know that I think 210 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: that one is realistic in that I don't know if 211 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: that's something Yannis would sign off on. Yeah, and but 212 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: I think that's the best Milwaukee. 213 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: Can and doesn't it. It has seemed like Yannis has 214 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: wanted to play for a big market team so the 215 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: way that he talks, and that might right. 216 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: And Atlanta is bigger than Milwaukee obviously, but it's not 217 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: like the Marquee market. I also think Atlanta is more 218 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: attractive to American born NBA stars than international So I 219 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: think that. But from a basketball perspective, you stay in 220 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference, the team keeps really good pieces. I 221 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of reasons for it. The next 222 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: ra ESPN brings up, it's the one we talked about 223 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: all summer, which was Yannis to the Rockets. Here's the thing, 224 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: so this is Yannis and his brother for Shoon and 225 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: Van Vliet, who's obviously out for the year with an injury, 226 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: and one first round pick. I don't love this for 227 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: either team. Yeah, to be totally honest, I don't think 228 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: that's quite enough. Demon's if you're Milwaukee. As much as 229 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: I love I love Shoon, that's to me not enough 230 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: because you've traded away so many of your own future picks, 231 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: like you need more draft capital. And if I'm Houston, 232 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm all of a sudden getting really old, 233 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: Like I already have Durant. Now I'm adding a guy 234 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: in year thirteen. 235 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: Yah, I promise, yeah right. 236 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't. Right now as is, we have the number 237 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: one offense in all of basketball and we're doing it 238 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: without a point guard because Shingoon kind of plays that. 239 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: So that's just if I'm Houston. And the other thing 240 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: is if I'm in the West this year, I don't 241 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: know that I want to push all my chips in 242 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: this year because I might feel like, Okayc's just sitting 243 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: there anyway. So I loved that this offseason, I don't 244 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: love it as much now that the next tray ESPN had, 245 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: And again I usually like to make my own trades, 246 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: but the CBA is so restrictive and there's only a 247 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: handful of teams that this would make sense for that 248 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: It didn't make sense for me. I would have come 249 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: up with these. Everybody's talking about these same four or 250 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: five teams, and if we're talking about the same teams, 251 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: we're all gonna be talking about the same players. So 252 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: I'll just give Kevin Pelton and Bobby Marks their their 253 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: credit for getting this out there and crib off their work. 254 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: The next one de Mond's is the Knicks Yannis and 255 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: Sims again for salary reasons. Sims back to New York, 256 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: by the way, for Karl Anthony, Towns collect Diadet. So 257 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: it's really Yannis for Towns plus a twenty twenty six 258 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: first round pick that won't be a first round pick 259 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: because it's the Wizard's pick that's top eight protected, and 260 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: where are the Wizards? So like that that one's that's 261 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: a fake good pick. Like let me just look at 262 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: the standings real quick. Yeah, the Wizards where I thought 263 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: they would be, where they always are dead last. So 264 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: that that that the and then some pick swaps and 265 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: and just really just pick swaps so that's the problem. 266 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: The problem for Milwaukee getting to getting Yannis Demons, I'm 267 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: sorry the Knick's getting Yannis is it's really just Yannis 268 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: for Towns straight up, with likely no extra picks, Right man, 269 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: that's a tough cell. Yeah, that's a really tough sell 270 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: if you're Milwaukee. 271 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead. Well, yeah, I was gonna say, and 272 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: you might. I think Karl Anthony Towns is the better shot. 273 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: Obviously is the more physical, imposing player, but is a. 274 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: Way better player. 275 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it would change. 276 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: You would lose shooting, you would lose some spacing, there's 277 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But if the Knicks could flip 278 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: Towns for Giannis, and that's the only rotation pieces they're trading, 279 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: they become the overwhelming Eastern Conference favorites over the Jalen 280 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: Brunson and Gianni's running pick. Like, there's overwhelming. I just 281 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: they traded all those picks away for Bridges. And so 282 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: the only way Yannis goes there is if he says 283 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: that's the only place I want to go, and Milwaukee 284 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: bends to it. So there's two more the Spurs. They 285 00:20:55,119 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: can include a bunch of picks, and again, it would 286 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: be a real negotiation. Are you including Castle or are 287 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: you including uh Dylan Harper? Are you are we trading 288 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: dearon Fox. That's the one that if if I were Milwaukee, 289 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: I would be interested in if I could get Harper 290 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: instead of Castle, And if I were san Antonio, I 291 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: might look at it like this, Man. 292 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: I do not know. 293 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: How long Wimby's prime is gonna be. Like I think 294 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: that is. I think because of his size and already 295 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: the injury stuff, I think that like you can't treat 296 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: with MBI's timeline like Cooper Flags or like. 297 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: A traditional Basically when it comes to trading, I can 298 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: actually think about putting him in or. 299 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, I'd never trade him. What 300 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying is, I'm saying I think sometimes when you 301 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: have a great really young players not yet to his prime, 302 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: you're like, let's wait to make the move. 303 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So you're saying, like move now, back now. 304 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, accelerate. I'm saying I'm saying, if you're san Antonio, 305 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: it might make sense to accelerate because you don't know 306 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: if in ten years what you know your best chance 307 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: to win might be right. You know, the next four 308 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: years or something, so that to me is an interesting one. 309 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: But again, does Yannis want to go uh from Milwaukee 310 00:22:54,400 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: to San Antonio? And does Yannis want to spend the 311 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: end of his prime as maybe the second guy on 312 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: a team? I don't know. And then the last one 313 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: is Golden State, which I just don't understand why Milwaukee 314 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: would do this. This is Draymond, Kaminga and Healed, none 315 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: of which are at this point in their careers useful 316 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: players like at a high level without Steph without you know, 317 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: somebody that creates the offense. Draymond's super useful in his role, 318 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: but on a bad team. And then a bunch of 319 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: first round picks. I totally get why the Warriors would 320 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: do this, but I don't. I don't. I don't know why. 321 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: And I feel like Draymond going to another team that 322 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: definitely stunts a much longer tas in. 323 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: The league, I think they'd buy Yeah, and I you 324 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: know Draymond, you would then maybe flip Draymond to a 325 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: contender that could want because he's Draymond's still super useful 326 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: if you're playing big basketball games. 327 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and all that stuff, but yeah. 328 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: And so and if I'm Milwaukee, I don't know that 329 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: I want a bunch of first round picks from Golden 330 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: State when I know Golden State's got that ownership, that coach, 331 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: and going to have Giannis even when Steph is gone. 332 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: So Atlanta is the best trade. Houston's the most interesting. 333 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: The Knicks are far and away the worst trade and 334 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: would only happen if Jannis demands it and and Milwaukee 335 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: Acquiesces and then I don't see the Warriors and the Spurs. 336 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: One really depends on how aggressive the Spurs. 337 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: Want to be. 338 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: So but I think Giannis. My big takeaway Demons is 339 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: I think we now it is more likely than not 340 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: that the next game, because of the injury last night, 341 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: the next game Yannis plays in the NBA will be 342 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: for a different team, which is crazy. 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The 377 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: playoff simulator that's putting it to under ten percent that 378 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: they make it if they lose tonight. Do you think 379 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: we're done talking about Dallas for this season? 380 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't, and here's why. So it's very simple. Dallas 381 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: needs two more wins than Philly the rest of the 382 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: way in order to steal the division. So if Dallas 383 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: goes five and zero and Philly goes three and two, 384 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: Dallas wins the division three and two or worse. Obviously, 385 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: if Dallas goes four and one and Philly goes two 386 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: and three, Dallas steals the division even If the Cowboys 387 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: lose tonight, they then go home Vikings home Chargers tough 388 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: at the Commander's short week Christmas, don't know, you know 389 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: what the Commanders will look like at that point, should 390 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: have Jayden back, and then at Giants. I think the Cowboys, 391 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: even if they lose tonight, have a chance to go 392 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: four and one, and Philly, on the other hand, has 393 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: a handful of Oh well, given how they've been playing, 394 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: they could lose that at the Chargers Monday night, obviously 395 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: they could lose home for the Raiders, you can't lose, 396 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: but then at Washington at the Bills, and then home 397 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: for Washington. So even if the Cowboys lose tonight, I 398 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna be done talking about them, even 399 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: though at that point, if they lose tonight, they're gonna 400 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: have to basically, you know, draw to an inside straight. 401 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: But I think they've got they would have, like you said, 402 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: ten percent chance, maybe a little better than that, because 403 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: I do think the Cowboys are playing at a super 404 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: high level right now. So here are and I expect 405 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: the Lions to win tonight. I just think asking a 406 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: team to beat Philly, beat Kansas City, then beat Detroit 407 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: the last of which is on the road. Is a 408 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: hell of an asque. And the Lions are you know, 409 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: they haven't lost too in a row since like Dan 410 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: Campbell's first year there. They've been incredible. They've been the 411 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: best team in the league at bouncing back from losses. 412 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: And you mentioned if they lose, the Athletic Playoff predictor 413 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: has them as the Cowboys at ten percent. If the 414 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: Lions lose, the Athletic Playoff Predictor has them at twelve percent. 415 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: So and they don't have just one team in front 416 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: of them in the division that they would need to collapse. 417 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: They have the Packers Bears in front of them in 418 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: the division and those teams play each other twice, so 419 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: either one of them is going to go to an 420 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: O or they're gonna split. So you know they are 421 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: as they sit here today, Demonse, the Lions are four 422 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: percent to win that division and with a loss, it's 423 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: basically dead to win the division. Now, I think the 424 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: Lions win tonight, but go ahead. 425 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think he's going to be pretty frisky. 426 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: Well, the Cowboys look great, Dak is playing out of 427 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: his mind, and Dak with a great performance tonight and 428 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: a win can maybe open up the MVP race to 429 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: a third. Yeah, right now, it's Stafford and May. But Dak. 430 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: If Joe Burrow last year ended up getting votes and 431 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: finishing fourth or fifth for a team that missed the playoffs, 432 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: if Dak gets this team back from the dead and 433 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 1: they end up, you know, running down Philadelphia and winning 434 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: the division, then I think he might be you know him. 435 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: Stafford and May will be a real discussion, And I 436 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: think what people will say is Stafford's got a great defense. 437 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: May's got a really good defense. The Cowboys defense the 438 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: first ten weeks of the year was a train wreck, 439 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: and so that's how they will offset the records of 440 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: those two guys. I just it's hard for me to 441 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: believe demon say that the Lions season is going to 442 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: end tonight. It's not hard for me to believe the Cowboys. Listen, 443 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, they traded Micah. They you know, they've lost 444 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: some bad games. They're hot right now. But are the 445 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: are the Lions going to in what is supposed to 446 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: be their championship window flat you know, miss the playoffs 447 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: this year, which would then mean in consecutive years they 448 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: win a grand total of zero playoff games. They're gonna 449 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: go from up seventeen in the conference championship game to 450 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: the one seed and getting clocked in their first playoff 451 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: game to out of the playoffs entirely. And by the way, 452 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: even if they win tonight they might do that. Like 453 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: if they win tonight it is and and they lose 454 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: next week to the Rams, they're back down to thirty 455 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: five percent to make the playoffs and the Lions. The 456 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: Lions basically have to go four and one the rest 457 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: of the way to make the postseason. If they do that, 458 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: then they almost assuredly should be in. If they don't, 459 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: then they almost assuredly are out. Their games are home 460 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys at the Rams, Homestealers at the Vikings, at the Bears. 461 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: It's not easy, man, And so I don't let me check. 462 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: Oh I saw it yesterday. A monro Saint Brown is 463 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: listed as questionable the I think obviously they yeah, I 464 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: think he's gonna play. And so if he were out, 465 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: with Laporta already out and some of the other injuries 466 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: they have, that might be enough to push me to Dallas. 467 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: With him playing, I and the fact that I just 468 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 1: don't Dallas has looked amazing. I'm you know, I saw 469 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: it up close and personal. Dallas looked amazing the last 470 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But the week before that, you know, 471 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: they lost to Arizona. They have they got I forget 472 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: the other game because they lost back to that games. 473 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: But regardless, I don't I've got the Lions tonight. But 474 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: if the Lions lose, they're just done and that would 475 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: just kind of be going out with a whimper that 476 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: I don't expect, even having lost the coordinators, which again 477 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: every year we in the offseason we gloss over the 478 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: coordinator losses. The Lions offense hasn't been the same without 479 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, and the Bears offense running game has been unbelievable. 480 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: With Ben Johnson, the. 481 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: Lions defense has been fine, but they seem to miss 482 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn and the Jets might want to give him back, 483 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 1: but it's just it hasn't and Dan Campbell taking over 484 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: play calling, didn't you know just snap fix everything? 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Delivery available for 494 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: select devices purchase at boost mobile dot com. Terms do apply, 495 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: all right, demons, Let's talk Texans Chiefs. 496 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: All right, So, big game for your boys this weekend, 497 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 2: and it's coming up against that topering defense and the Texans. 498 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: Uh Is it fair to say that this is the 499 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: biggest regular season game of Patrick Balm's career. 500 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, and you know that's just gonna keep happening 501 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: like the Then if they win or lose, next week's 502 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: even bigger. Honestly, So if they win, then next week 503 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: against the Chargers, you really have a chance to get 504 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: back on your feet. So if the Chiefs win and 505 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: they get to seven and six and critically to facto 506 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: pass Houston in the standings because they'll both be seven 507 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: and six, but Casey will have the head dad tiebreaker, 508 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: and then you play the Chargers, you have a chance 509 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: if Philly beats the Chargers to also then draw even 510 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: with the Chargers and be eight and six with a 511 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: Titans game coming up. A Raiders game is your final 512 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: game of the year and feel like, Okay, you know 513 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: we can salvage this thing. If you lose, then next 514 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: week's game against the Chargers is a playoff game, and 515 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: you kind of know deep down, even winning out, there's 516 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: a very good chance it's not enough. So the Chiefs 517 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: can make the playoffs. They will make the playoffs at 518 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: if they run the table. They can make the playoffs 519 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: at four and one, but who that one loss comes 520 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: to is wildly influential. So if they go four and 521 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: one again, I'll just use the athletic playoff predictor. If 522 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: they go four and one but the losses to the Texans, 523 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: they're forty percent to make the playoffs. If they go 524 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: four and one but the losses to the Chargers, they're 525 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: forty three percent to make the playoffs. If they go 526 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: four and one but the losses to the Broncos, they're 527 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 1: fifty three percent to make the playoffs. And that's because 528 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: they're not trying one of the teams trying to take 529 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: that last playoff spot. Isn't the Broncos, it's the Texans 530 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: or the Chargers. So like the oddly the team that 531 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: if they go four and one but the losses to 532 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: the Titans, they're seventy percent to make the playoffs because 533 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: that wouldn't be a divisional loss and the Titans don't matter. 534 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: But regardless, point remains losing either. The next two weeks 535 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: for Mahomes are the biggest regular season games of his career, 536 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: which are obviously he's played in twenty one playoff games. 537 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: He's seventeen to four in the playoffs. They're not you 538 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: know they are. So they are the twenty second and 539 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: twenty third biggest games of his career, but that's still something. 540 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, all week long, Demons I've been 541 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: talking about, and folks seen in the national media to 542 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: also now be talking about that Chief's inability to get 543 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: to the quarterback has been their problem third down defense. 544 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: My pal Mina Kimes had this I'm gonna read directly 545 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 1: from her Twitter. She had the stats from twenty tw 546 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four when the Chiefs blitzed, they ranked first 547 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: in yards per play, second, in pressure rate, third, and 548 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: sack rate first, second, third, when they blitzed over the 549 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: last three years. This year in those same categories when 550 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: they blitzed, they are thirty first, twenty eighth, thirty first. 551 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: So they have gone from the best blitz team in 552 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,760 Speaker 1: the league to the worst blitz team in the league. 553 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 1: Their third and long defense has gone from great to awful, 554 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: and those are hand in glove directly correlated with that. 555 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: Said Demonse, that's not my biggest concern for this game. 556 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: My biggest concern go ahead. 557 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 2: It's the whole line I imagine with that defense coming up. 558 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Josh Simmons is out. He's on the ir 559 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: even if they make I don't know, you know, they 560 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: haven't given us an indication on if they make the playoffs. 561 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: Would he be back for a playoffer on god willing 562 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: if they make the playoffs, I'd hope so they get 563 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: but they've dealt without Josh Simmons. Jalen Moore is not 564 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: as good as Josh Simmons, but they signed him this offseason. 565 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: Simmons missed that time with the family issue. They've had 566 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: someone else play left tackle this year and been okay, 567 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: but Juwan Taylor is also injured. He did not practice yesterday. 568 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 1: Trey Smith is also injured. He did not practice yesterday. 569 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 1: If Josh Simmons and your right guard and your right 570 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: tackle are out against this Texans team, it is going 571 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: to take one of the most brilliant Andy Reid game 572 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: plans of his life and a ten out of ten 573 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: even by his standards, Patrick Mahomes performance to be able 574 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: to move the ball. And so that's that's what I 575 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: am here. Yeah. Now, now the flip side is this 576 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: Texans offense has been really a mess all year and 577 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: this is an opportunity for spags in that defense to 578 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: cook a bit. But this would be my number thirty 579 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: two draft pick of teams I would want to face 580 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: with the offensive line in this shape and one you, 581 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:06,280 Speaker 1: Morris has just been so problematic his whole career. Now listen, 582 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: he's your third string left tackle. Nobody has a good 583 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: third string left tackle. But man, that is so that's 584 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 1: my concern. 585 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 2: You need the running backs to kind of step up 586 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 2: in this game. Yes, yeah, you're right. 587 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 1: But the I mean, the running backs don't need good 588 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: blocking too. But yeah, this is a game where you 589 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: would love if you could hand the ball off thirty 590 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: five times, right, you would love it. I don't know 591 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:41,439 Speaker 1: that the Texans evens is just so good and so yeah, 592 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm concerned. Now hopefully Arrowhead Sunday night that crowd helps 593 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: the defense, but I need to see the Thursday and 594 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: Friday practice reports before I can give a because they 595 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: can deal with Josh Simmons, won't be great any thing 596 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: to deal with it. No Josh Simmons and no Jawan 597 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: Taylor and no Tray Smith. That might be a bridge 598 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: too far against this defense. All right, let's you know what, 599 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: Let's get to Yeah, let's get to Eagles Chargers Demonsey. 600 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 2: So as we talked about a little bit before, we 601 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 2: know that your chiefs need a little bit of help 602 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 2: from some other teams to make this playoff push a 603 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 2: little bit easier to get to. So the Eagles were 604 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 2: playing the Chargers and Justin Herbert's got a hand injury. 605 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 2: I think he just got surgery, so he's day to day. 606 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 2: So how's it gonna feel this weekend when you're rooting 607 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 2: for the Eagles. 608 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna feel weird? Man. I don't even know, like 609 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: because I it's not that I have like lifelong disliked 610 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: the Eagles most of my life. I didn't really care 611 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: about him. I did, however, I like Donovan because he 612 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: was a Syracuse guy. I loved Vic when he was there. 613 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: I did root for them in the Super Bowl against 614 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: Brady just because it was fun seeing what Nick Foles 615 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: was doing. But now they are you know, you play 616 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: my team and a couple Super Bowls. Your fans regularly 617 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: accost me on the street. And so I've been, you know, 618 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: pretty ardently not a big fan of Philly, and I 619 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: think I've been fair in that. I mean, their team 620 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: goes three and out more than any team in the 621 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: NFL the last decade. They clearly have some issues. Can 622 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 1: you believe that statue? 623 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's wild. 624 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: They have the highest three and out rate of any 625 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: team in the NFL in the last ten years. Yeah right, 626 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: So all of that with that said, and maybe this 627 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 1: is a little heart overhead, but I don't think think 628 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: so because the Eagles are favorites. I I think the 629 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: Eagles d line should be able to disrupt a battered 630 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:22,919 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, assuming he plays enough that they can win 631 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: that game with their defense alone, as bad as their 632 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: offense has been. And man, oh man, do I need 633 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 1: them to win that game now? We don't know. This 634 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,439 Speaker 1: is Monday. We're doing this Thursday morning. They're not. We're 635 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: not going to get a real update on Herbert probably 636 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: until the weekend. If Trey Lance beats the Eagles, it's 637 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 1: a five alarm fire in Philly and it's devastating for 638 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. And I like Trey Lance. Yeah, and you 639 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: know Harball has got something cooked up ready for him too. 640 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: We saw him this offseason. All right, let's talk a 641 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: little Hall of Fame here. 642 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we teased it on Tuesday. We ran out 643 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 2: of time here, or we're gonna show that the Hall 644 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 2: of Fame semifinalists. Who do you think is going to 645 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,439 Speaker 2: get in? Who are our picks this year? 646 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: All right, so let's do this, and if you guys 647 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: can keep a running tally in the dock, that would 648 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: be helpful. Let's do this the way we did this before, 649 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: which is, first, let me tell the audience who are 650 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 1: new to the ballot. First ballot possibilities are Breeze Rivers, 651 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: Frank Gore, Larry Fitzgerald, and Jason Witt. Okay, now let 652 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: me tell the audience who was on the ballot last 653 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: year and made the semifinals last year? Okay, or I'm sorry. 654 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 1: Last year was a finalist, so got closed last year, Eli, 655 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, Halt, Steve Smith, Reggie, Wayne Vint, Terry, Willie Anderson, 656 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: Jarry Evans, Marshall, Yonda, Keikley Suggs, Darren Woodson. Now let 657 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 1: me tell the audience folks that are semifinalists this year 658 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: are not new to the ballot, and we're not finalists 659 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: last year, hinz Ward, Lomas Brown, Richmond Webb, Steve Wisnowski, 660 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: Robert Mathis, Vince will Fork, Kevin Williams, Rodney Harrison, Earl Thomas. Okay, 661 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 1: we are going to snap do two things. We are 662 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 1: going to snap say Breeze and Fitzgerald are in, so 663 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: that's two of our five in. We are also going 664 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: to snap, say Rivers, Gore, and Witten are not going 665 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: to be first ballot guys. This is their first time 666 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 1: on the ballot. Any of those guys might eventually make it, 667 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: they're not making it this year, so we're going to 668 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:36,720 Speaker 1: eliminate those guys. By eliminating those guys, I am also 669 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: going to eliminate finalists from last year, Fred Taylor, because 670 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: I think Gore gets in before Fred Taylor. I think 671 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: people think Gore had a better career than Fred Taylor. 672 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,399 Speaker 1: And if they're not gonna put Gore in, I don't 673 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: think they're gonna put him in, So he's out. I 674 00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: am also going to say that Hines Ward, who was 675 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 1: not a finalist last year, Lomas Brown, Richmond Webb, Mathis, 676 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 1: will Fork, Williams, Rodney Harrison, and Earl Thomas. They didn't. 677 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: They weren't finalists last year. I don't think in a 678 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: stacked class they're gonna go from final it from not 679 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: even a finalist to end. So they're out. So for 680 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: three spots. That then leaves us quarterback Eli Manning, wide 681 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: receivers Tory Halt, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne Kicker, Adam vinit Terry, 682 00:50:51,840 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: offensive lineman Willie Anderson, jarr Evans Marshall, yonda linebackers Keithley 683 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: and Suggs, and d back Darren Woodson. Okay, so there's 684 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 1: that I am. I don't I don't necessary. I don't 685 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: think this is gonna happen. But I do think when 686 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this, what would be kind. 687 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 2: Of cool. 688 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 1: Would be if they said Vinitari, will Fork, Rodney Harrison, 689 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna wait and if you're gonna get in, 690 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: we're putting you in with Brady and kind of just 691 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:55,399 Speaker 1: having an entire class of the Patriots dynasty. I think 692 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: that would be pretty cool. I don't think that's likely 693 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 1: the way they're gonna go. So of those guys that 694 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: we have not yet eliminated, I am now gonna take off. 695 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eliminate Steve Smith because I just don't think 696 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: he's better than these other guys. I'm gonna eliminate Eli 697 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:22,240 Speaker 1: Manning because I don't think he was better than Philip Rivers. 698 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: And that then leaves Tory Holt, Reggie Wayne, Adam Vin 699 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 1: and Terry, Willie Anderson, Jarry Evans, Marshall, Yonda, Luke Keighley, 700 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: Trell Suggs, and Darren Woodson I believe, and we already 701 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,800 Speaker 1: have Breeze and fits in, so we have three spots. 702 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 2: I believe. 703 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: Luke Keighley gets in just too high of a peak, 704 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: and I think it's undeniable how great he was. I 705 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: think they are going to want to put in at 706 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: least one offensive lineman, and I think it will be 707 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: Willie Anderson. And in part that's because I don't think 708 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:40,359 Speaker 1: they want them all to be kind of relatively new, 709 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: and then that would and you know what, I think 710 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: they are going to put Vinetarian with Brady. I think 711 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:58,399 Speaker 1: they're gonna make him. 712 00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 2: Wait. 713 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna put in multiple wide receivers, 714 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: so Halt and Reggie Wayne are out. I don't think 715 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna put in multiple offensive linemen. So that then 716 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: means it comes down Toterrell Suggs and Darren Woodson. And 717 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 1: I think that so Keikley is gonna have the argument 718 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 1: of my peak was so insane. I played eight years. 719 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,879 Speaker 1: I was a five time first team All Pro, two 720 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 1: times second team All Pro, and a defensive Player of 721 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: the Year. I think Terrell Suggs's argument would be I 722 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,919 Speaker 1: also was a defensive Player of the Year. I won 723 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: a couple Super Bowls. 724 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 2: I want it? 725 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: Do I have it here? How many total career sacks 726 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 1: he had? I have one hundred and thirty nine career sacks. 727 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: And I think that rather than directly compare the two, 728 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:14,240 Speaker 1: they put them both in. So Terrell Suggs, sorry, Darren 729 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: Woodson is not in. So Brees, Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, 730 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 1: Luke Keikley, and Darrell Suggs along with offensive lineman Willie Anderson. 731 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: That is my projection for this year's Hall of Fame. 732 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: I love doing this exercise. I'll never go four for 733 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: four again. I also want to go ahead and plant 734 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: my flag on I think it'd be pretty damn cool 735 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: if they could find a way to get a Patriots class. 736 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 1: So the problem is gonna be that Gronk is gonna 737 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: be eligible before Tom. Gronk's final year was twenty twenty one. 738 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 1: Tom's final year was twenty twenty two. But if just 739 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 1: maybe you could and Gronk deserves to be first ballot 740 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:28,879 Speaker 1: with a bullet, but Vince will Fork, Rodney Harrison are 741 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,720 Speaker 1: deserving at some point to be Hall of Famers. Adam 742 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: Vint Terry at some point will get in. Gronk is 743 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: eligible next year. If you could just tell Gronk wait 744 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 1: one year and we're gonna have the first ever one 745 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: team class with Brady, that would be pretty sick. Uh, 746 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 1: and just the Patriot dynasty sweep the board. I think 747 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 1: that'd be pretty sick. We should put this on the 748 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 1: internet since Wilde is turning me back into a Patriots hater, 749 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 1: so all the Patriot fans know I respect what they did. 750 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm planning my flag on. I came up with the idea, 751 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 1: convince Gronk that it's not an insult. He's not first ballot. 752 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to wait one more one extra year, 753 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 1: and then everybody goes in with Tom Gronk, Vinitari will 754 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 1: fork Rodney Brady, and that's your Hall of Fame class 755 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eight. That'd be pretty sick, all right. 756 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: So here's what we've got to do. Got to do 757 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: our gambling show. So we're gonna step aside. We're gonna 758 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 1: end this show. We are then demons and I are 759 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 1: going to stay exactly where we are, and we are 760 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: going to bring you our red hot with teasers and 761 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: with my picks. Week fourteen Gambling Show that's next. We 762 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: will talk to you guys for that tomorrow. I'll see 763 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 1: you guys on TV later today. A reminder, everybody like 764 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: Grate subscribe review to the channel. We greatly appreciate that, 765 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: and shout out to Blue Docks, shout out to Volume, 766 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: shout out to hard Rock, bet Boost, and of course 767 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: our friends at Zen. Talk to you guys tomorrow for 768 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 1: the Week fourteen Gambling Show