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Speaker 1: Ashlyn Sullivan me, Brian, Hi, good morning. Uh this is

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Speaker 1: this is kind of a tough Monday to get going,

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Speaker 1: which is still half a season away. So we'll take

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Speaker 1: whatever focus you can give us over the next couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, John, the next couple of weeks. I'm not

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Speaker 1: All right, well I'll give it world, Okay, good nice um.

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Speaker 1: Brought to you by Jet Homelands this morning. Sure that.

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Speaker 1: In a couple of things to reflect upon. The first

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Speaker 1: He was an absolute road grading offensive lineman and died

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Speaker 1: he was not a guy of many words. In fact,

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Speaker 1: he would rather talk about his tattoos than football. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He would rather talk about his home state of Hawaii

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Speaker 1: thousand and seven, my wife Jennifer and I went on

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Speaker 1: things that you will undoubtedly read today tomorrow before sadly

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Speaker 1: it fades, is how many people loved and cared about

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Speaker 1: you read that one of my favorite teammates I've ever

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Speaker 1: on Benny Manaway, a good player for a long time

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Speaker 1: The only way that this offense is going to get

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Speaker 1: have to lose? And at the same time, you're exactly right, Ashton.

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Speaker 1: I thought on the mentality in that locker room right now.

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Speaker 1: cap room next year, and they appear to still not

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Speaker 1: know if they've got their quarterback or not. Um, And

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Speaker 1: that might be being kind. Um, there are teams that opposite.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're completely You would not change the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: as a team being where you want to be for

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Speaker 1: the future. No, no, no, that doesn't mean that can't

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Speaker 1: change because stories get written all the time in this league.

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Speaker 1: But right now that's how it looks. Uh. Interesting, say

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Speaker 1: on the Colts and uh, they've given up ten sacks

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Speaker 1: this year, maybe up ten in one game last year

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Speaker 1: and this team, So that's where they're better. That's what

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Speaker 1: you know. And I know we've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: time to talk about the Colts, but that's where they're better.

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Speaker 1: He's getting the ball out quicker. They're dangerous. Um. It's

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Speaker 1: it's a huge game and not nearly the game and

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Speaker 1: the and the pregame talking without was going to be

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Speaker 1: coming in going back to the conference. It was promising

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Speaker 1: to meet last week month. Malik Jackson said, one win

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Speaker 1: will solve any doubts that they have. I think if

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Speaker 1: they win against the Colts on Sunday, we're not talking

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Speaker 1: about the confidence of this team any longer. Against the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: they thought they were going to win well. So if

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Speaker 1: you get a win on Sunday on the road in

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Speaker 1: the division against the team that's playing well, then you

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Speaker 1: come home and you have some momentum for Ben Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: and the Steelers right Sunday night, Sunday night football against

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Speaker 1: the team that you beat twice at their place last year.

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Speaker 1: If you come in as opposed to if you come

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Speaker 1: in on on five consecutive losses, my goodness, that's it's

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Speaker 1: really a difficult road for them to find a way. Well,

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Speaker 1: then the Pittsburgh games becomes just about I do know

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Speaker 1: what it's about. It it's more a team, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: taking its one Mike Tyson punch, you know, and swinging

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Speaker 1: for the fences and trying to get one on on

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Speaker 1: what I assume will still be a national t V.

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Speaker 1: I don'tink it's gonna get flights at this point, but

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Speaker 1: we'll say NDC wants this team. So it's if you're

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Speaker 1: four and five going into that, then you can at

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Speaker 1: least make the argument, Hey, if you win your five hundred,

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Speaker 1: you're right back to where you're close to where you

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Speaker 1: were last year. All that stuff. So before we go

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo the week after Thanksgiving, So I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: some you gotta running the table, don't you. I've got

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Speaker 1: him playing. How about highlights from the first half. Yes,

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Speaker 1: let's look at the first half of the season and

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Speaker 1: look at some key moments. So let's go all the

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Speaker 1: way back to the Giants game. Right now, your team

472
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Speaker 1: is thirty in the league turnover margin minus eleven. But

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Speaker 1: it started off this defense like the way we thought

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Speaker 1: it was going to start off, by forcing turnovers to

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Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. Off check check, We'll check it

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Speaker 1: all the way eight touchdown. I remember thinking as you

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Speaker 1: crossed the goal line, they can't play this way again, right,

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Speaker 1: They scored seven defensive touchdowns last year. And you know

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Speaker 1: throughout the off season we talked about you can't lean

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Speaker 1: on that. That's and normally you don't it. Well, first

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Speaker 1: game of two thousand eighteen, here we go. Now they

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Speaker 1: haven't done it since, but they had to lead in

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Speaker 1: that game. At that time, they had played to their

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Speaker 1: formula for net, had been heavy, had played in the

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Speaker 1: first half, they had an impressive drive. They still felt

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Speaker 1: like the team that again at four point lead, they

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Speaker 1: knew the Giants had to throw in that point. That's

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Speaker 1: what they haven't played with enough of last year, where

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Speaker 1: this year where you had to make the opposing team

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Speaker 1: had to make plays and situations that they weren't comfortable in.

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Speaker 1: Dead enough anyone can tell you this, but you need

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Speaker 1: a couple more of those in the second half of

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Speaker 1: the season comple game change. And I remember thinking that

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Speaker 1: first game, well, all right, well, let's just keep on

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Speaker 1: going from two thousand and seventeen. That's what worked last season.

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Speaker 1: Just keep it going. It doesn't work that way, not

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Speaker 1: the case Lesson learned. All right, let's go to the

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00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: paid striots game to a guy who haven't seen as

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Speaker 1: much as we thought we were going to see Donte Moncrief.

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Speaker 1: Let's grant then back touchdown creep. You know we saw

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Speaker 1: him there. Uh, and then we saw him against the

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Speaker 1: Jets with the sixty seven yard touchdown that opened that

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Speaker 1: game up. Um, but he has not been a consistent

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Speaker 1: performer for this football team. He wasn't the game changing

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00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: player that we thought we were going to see when

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Speaker 1: he first came here. But still eight games to go,

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00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: you never know. He's um. He gets numbers, but doesn't

508
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: seem two get plays when they matter enough. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's him, if it's the offense, but uh,

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Speaker 1: the the catches that he's made have seemed to have

511
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Speaker 1: been a result of what's going on around him rather

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Speaker 1: than stepping up. And they need somebody and alpha dog

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Speaker 1: whatever that is, I don't. I don't know him well

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Speaker 1: enough to know if that's his personality, but don't either.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem That's what you haven't gotten is

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Speaker 1: that we have to have a play now, who are

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Speaker 1: we going to We're going to that, and that's really

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Speaker 1: what you don't have in the receiver right now. And

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Speaker 1: we said it all offseason. It was gonna be four

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Speaker 1: or five number two receivers. But more than anything, that's

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Speaker 1: what they missed with Marquis not being there. And whatever

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Speaker 1: Marquise wasn't he was a guy who you know, the

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Speaker 1: ball seemed to go to him on third down. He

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Speaker 1: was going after well. And for complete perspective on Dante,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the thought was was that you were gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to run the ball and set up play action.

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Speaker 1: You were going to be able to create for him

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Speaker 1: with the running game that hasn't been there and the

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Speaker 1: quarterback has not had a lot of time because the

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Speaker 1: offensive line is not held up as well as you

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Speaker 1: would expect them too because there has been a running

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Speaker 1: game and the injuries that left tackle have hurt them.

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Speaker 1: So I get it part of it. You paid him

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Speaker 1: nine bucks, nine million bucks. You expect him to come

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Speaker 1: through and make plays, um, but you didn't. If your

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Speaker 1: eyes were wide open, he wasn't that guy in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: So you were hoping that he was going to come

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Speaker 1: into be a part of your system and find a

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Speaker 1: way to get right. Marquise and Austin's Farion Jenkins were

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Speaker 1: supposed to be those gaps. There go two guys. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's go to a positive from the Chiefs game.

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Speaker 1: Not the outcome that the Jaguars wanted. But Blake Bortles

543
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Speaker 1: for two d and sixty one yards so far this season.

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Speaker 1: And we say a lot about Blake Bortles. The one

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Speaker 1: thing we always compliment is his will to win. Here's

546
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Speaker 1: sports and strade portals to drive it toward the goal

547
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Speaker 1: line and it's a touchdown. So he wasn't going down there. No,

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Speaker 1: say what you want. You can say a lot about

549
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Speaker 1: the way it's gone for him, especially the last month, UM,

550
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Speaker 1: but his legs and his toughness have prevailed. They've still

551
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Speaker 1: been there and his desire to win. So is he limited? Yeah,

552
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: he's limited. He's not Drew Brees and Jared Goff that

553
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: we saw duel it out yesterday. Uh, you know, for

554
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: more than eighty points in UM in New Orleans. Yet

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00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: he fits what the team built itself to be. And

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Speaker 1: if he gets a running game, I've said it his

557
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: entire career. He is good at play action. He can

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Speaker 1: give you something like he did last year against the Colts,

559
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the Cardinals. Here, I'm not sorry the Cardinals,

560
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: the Texans. He can give you something, he can help

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Speaker 1: you win, but he's not gonna he's not gonna carry

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Speaker 1: the team like he carried that Chief's defender. Yeah. He

563
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: he's a complimentary quarterback and a lot of the complimented

564
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Speaker 1: pieces aren't there. So can they get there? Uh? Big

565
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: thing one? Yeah, I mean that's yes. Rewind show all right,

566
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Speaker 1: last one. So we talked about the very first highlight

567
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Speaker 1: this defense getting takeaways and being the dominant defense. It

568
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: was one once was we saw some promise against the Eagles,

569
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Speaker 1: some aggressive playmaking from Marcel Darius once again, lots of time,

570
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Speaker 1: but he runs out all of a sudden, fallless, loose

571
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: and they're letting it talk, they're letting it. It's sniffs,

572
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: honestly the other way. So Marcel Darius, you know, I

573
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Speaker 1: made a comment before the season began that I thought

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Speaker 1: this defense could rival the two thousand Ravens, and I

575
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: had two players upon whom it rested. One was Leonard

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Speaker 1: for Nette. I said he had to get four yards,

577
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Speaker 1: which was what Jamal Lewis did that rested that great

578
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: Ravens defense in two thousand and the other was Marcel Darius. Well,

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Speaker 1: obviously Leonard hasn't played, but Darius has played, and there

580
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: haven't been a lot of those kinds of plays. But

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Speaker 1: if you watch closely, and Jeff Lockman was in and

582
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: we talked about it last Tuesday here on the show, Uh,

583
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Speaker 1: Darius is playing at incredibly high level, a dominant interior defender,

584
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Speaker 1: and right there you just saw what he's capable of doing.

585
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: By the way, there are two Pro Bowl defensive linemen

586
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Speaker 1: on that Eagle's offensive line and he beat both of them.

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00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: He's one of the few bright spots of this season. Yeah,

588
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: and it shows you how difficult it is to jay

589
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: j I got some emails from fans last week after

590
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Speaker 1: the Eagles ran well saying, well, I guess Marcel Darius

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Speaker 1: didn't good huh, Well, you know so, because they gave

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Speaker 1: yours in the running game. He's playing it. M