WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 41: Gaining Clarity

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for a Happy half Hour presented by Morris

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<v Speaker 1>Jenkins with your friends Kristen Balboni, Will Bryan and Tarn Gant.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Happy Half Hour podcast presented by Morris Jenkins.

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<v Speaker 1>We are coming to you from Panther's training camp and

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Jenkins told me the Panthers make him proud and

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<v Speaker 1>he is honored to support the team. When you're plumbing

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<v Speaker 1>your air conditioning is acting up, called Morris Jenkins or

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<v Speaker 1>visit Morris Jenkins dot com. Darren Will, I know I

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<v Speaker 1>just said it, but we are podcasting from a very

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<v Speaker 1>different space than normal space. Both of you guys know

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<v Speaker 1>very well. But it's my first time down here in Spartanburg.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy first week of training camp in the books, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. And it's just sublime. I mean, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to need Mars Jenkins down here because

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<v Speaker 1>it's always hot as lays is in Spartan Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>here and here you go, it's not. It's beautiful in

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<v Speaker 1>Spartanburg right now. I mean, the temperatures were in the

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<v Speaker 1>sixties this morning, no humidity. It was just wonderful out here.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I think it's almost you know, we're almost

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<v Speaker 1>spoiled because you want to come to Spartanburg and switch

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<v Speaker 1>your brains out so you appreciate the rest of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're not really doing that yet. Darren. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>curious you were here last week, right, We got a

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<v Speaker 1>good five six days of sweating our brains out. Last

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<v Speaker 1>week it was warm ish, but morning warm is different

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<v Speaker 1>than the middle of the afternoon warm. And back in

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<v Speaker 1>the old days when they used to go two a

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<v Speaker 1>days and or go three o'clock in the afternoon practice,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you really got the Spartanburg swelter. And so

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<v Speaker 1>even when it's hot out here like it was last week,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't it doesn't really feel the same kind of hot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's fair. It's not your own personal sona. If

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing morning practices, And just for for any of

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<v Speaker 1>the fans that don't know, they are mercifully in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>practic to sing in the morning eight thirty two about

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<v Speaker 1>ten thirty or eleven, depending on the day. So, as

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<v Speaker 1>Darren said, we do get the best part of the

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<v Speaker 1>day bar none, and today was fantastic. The this was

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<v Speaker 1>this recording us on Wednesday. Not only was the weather

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<v Speaker 1>really good, that We had a really great fan group

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<v Speaker 1>out there, probably the largest families to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>player families, Um we're here. Is it was really, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, the largest fan presence aside from the

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<v Speaker 1>night practice on July thirty one, which they called Back

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<v Speaker 1>Together Saturday, which was in Gibbs Stadium, so a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit you know, bigger feel with the lights, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a night event and there were cameras, NFL Network

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<v Speaker 1>and we had our own broadcast. But this was the

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<v Speaker 1>first traditional practice, like you said, well where there were

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot a lot of people out. Weather was

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<v Speaker 1>they were taking advantage of the great weather. Saw some

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<v Speaker 1>beach blankets out, some towels, and then a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>players families also came down for the day as well.

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<v Speaker 1>At least it looked like after practice, which was great. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And they relaxed some of the rules so some family

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<v Speaker 1>members can be around and that's helpful. I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>you saw last week on social media, Jamaine Carter was

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<v Speaker 1>a little salty about some of that. In the very

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<v Speaker 1>next day, the policy change so that family members can

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<v Speaker 1>come and see people after practice and and players are

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<v Speaker 1>relieved for that because that's the biggest thing for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys is you know, you're out of

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<v Speaker 1>your comfort spot. You're not in your own bed, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, on your own schedule. But if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a wife and kids at home or stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, are family members that you want to be around.

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<v Speaker 1>Not being around your support system take something out of you.

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<v Speaker 1>So as much as I am an advocate for the

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<v Speaker 1>training camp experience, it's still hard. It's still tough not

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<v Speaker 1>being at home and around your people. So we've covered

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the weather, super important meals. I'm sure we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into which you know, those are the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we hear at the Happy half hour podcasts are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>dive deep on make sure that all Panthers fans know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about what's going on on the field. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that you've got the important stuff. Actually, Darren, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you seeing out there? It's been doing this? Well? Just

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<v Speaker 1>for context, first, I'm sorry I asked you a question

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<v Speaker 1>that immediately interrupted you. You have been coming to camp

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<v Speaker 1>on here since right, Yeah, and it's UH and this

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<v Speaker 1>one's different. This one's different from UH, from a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of levels, but the team is different. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked and we're gonna get into this

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<v Speaker 1>later in the show. There's a lot of stuff about

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<v Speaker 1>this football team that we don't know and we're still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out, and we're still sort of in

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<v Speaker 1>that process. But at the same time, we've got a

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<v Speaker 1>week's worth of evidence. We've seen these guys in practices,

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<v Speaker 1>in and out of pads, so I mean, you're starting

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<v Speaker 1>to get a little sense of some of the broader themes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know, on the whole, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>some sloppy days of practice, but it's it's probably better

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<v Speaker 1>than I anticipated it was going to look defensively, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I am one I don't like getting too

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<v Speaker 1>far out of muskies. I don't like creating false hope

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<v Speaker 1>based on individual drills or anything like that. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>saying playoff run from the first two days and pads. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're obviously going to be a top five defense

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Now they're getting a lot better and

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<v Speaker 1>they're they've got players over there on that side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball that are doing things in camp that it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy belongs. Jasey Horn is the genuine article. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who could be that guy and he's got

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<v Speaker 1>his ups and downs, and Rule kind of gets on

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<v Speaker 1>him every now and then for getting a little grabby

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<v Speaker 1>at times. But he's a big physical corner. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put hands on people. But Jase Horns also putting his

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<v Speaker 1>hands on a lot of passes that are coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the offense, and so were other guys. Jeremy Chen's out,

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<v Speaker 1>he's how to pick out here, Chin and and Horn

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<v Speaker 1>had picks on back to back days and it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what a rebuild secondary looks like. That's what those

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<v Speaker 1>guys can do. So it's been probably for me, the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest takeaway from a week of camp is that defense

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<v Speaker 1>might actually be pretty good. Yeah, I completely agree about

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<v Speaker 1>j C. Horne. I talked to him the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>It was after it was the day that he had

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<v Speaker 1>two picks in a single practice, so I think, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't keep training camp stats, although Will might. If

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<v Speaker 1>anyone does, Will does, But by my account, he's had

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<v Speaker 1>three picks so far. And I was asking him about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, I said, you know, how are you feeling

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<v Speaker 1>this defense? And I loved his answer because it wasn't Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, I'm getting the hang of it, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting the hang of it. Just a very real, realistic answer,

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<v Speaker 1>Like clearly he's getting the hang of it, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see it on the field, but he's also not too

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<v Speaker 1>far over his keys where you know he's he's still learning.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a and there's a lot to learn, and he

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<v Speaker 1>knows that. It's just another sign of just how ready

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<v Speaker 1>he is that just because he's had this hot start

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<v Speaker 1>and seems like he's he's really starting to to mesh

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<v Speaker 1>with the other defenders that secredary and and understand what's

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<v Speaker 1>expected at this level. He's not buying into any hype

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<v Speaker 1>or thinking, you know, of himself in a certain way. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know who else is loving it. You get

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<v Speaker 1>there's a clip on on Panthers social media of one

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<v Speaker 1>of his interceptions from the other day, and you see

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<v Speaker 1>Dante Jackson going crazy as if it was his own interception.

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<v Speaker 1>And you think about Dante, He's he's got some great

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<v Speaker 1>pieces around him. He looks good after battling that turf

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<v Speaker 1>toe all last season, and you had him back, and

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<v Speaker 1>it makes it's not just about these these new pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>And you put Jeremy Chin back there in the secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>As you said, darren A lot, a lot to be

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<v Speaker 1>excited about the whole different look. I mean, Dante led

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<v Speaker 1>the team with three interceptions all of the last season,

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<v Speaker 1>the team as a whole had seven interceptions in sixteen games.

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<v Speaker 1>J C. Horns had three in the first week of

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<v Speaker 1>training camp. So I think they've got an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little more turnover turnover driven. They ought to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to create more turnovers this year based on

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure they're going to be able to create up

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<v Speaker 1>front and having a better grade of player in the

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<v Speaker 1>second year. And they're talking about it every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was down the fence today and you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're going through um, you know, their warm up drills,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have assistant coaches out there like three three three,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting three turnovers, three turnovers, Like you know, every

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<v Speaker 1>practice their focused they've got to get three turnovers because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you know, they've seen for kind of their

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<v Speaker 1>goals for each game. It's like, we gotta get turnovers,

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get turnovers. So it's it's a mindset. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like bend and bend, don't break. It's

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<v Speaker 1>we're being aggressive. We've got to go create that. I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Jeremy Chin about that the other day because

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<v Speaker 1>that's something I've heard now. Granted we we get to

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<v Speaker 1>hear it with the music down. We're a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>closer than certainly I got to be last year, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing it more. The defense is talking a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and well, you said, you always hear them count you know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one where we gotta get three, but you also

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<v Speaker 1>hear them say talk talk communicating, we got to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Shack has been very vocal about that, no

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<v Speaker 1>pun intended vocal about talking um since since the season ended,

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<v Speaker 1>and just that is what is so valuable for this

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<v Speaker 1>young team, This young defense is learning each other out

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<v Speaker 1>there and communicating. And Jeremy said something I asked him about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how much they're talking and communicating, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not always getting it right, but even when

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<v Speaker 1>we're wrong, we're right because we're talking it through and

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<v Speaker 1>we're learning that stuff. And it does feel like these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on that defensive side, have a sense of this

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<v Speaker 1>is a process. And we heard Steve Smith. We got

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<v Speaker 1>to do uh our first broadcast with him the other night,

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<v Speaker 1>which was great, and he almost had Darren a play

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<v Speaker 1>by play of what each week of training camp is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be. The first week you break the guys down.

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<v Speaker 1>Second week you get to learn a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and who knows better than than Steve exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how this is supposed to go and it and it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like those guys are embracing the challenges here at

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<v Speaker 1>camp this week as well, and it is. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. You know, they put on pads this week

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<v Speaker 1>and that always takes the intensity up a little notch too.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see a little more slap fighting, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote training camp fights, even though they aren't fights.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like what happened in Giants camp the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>but little smacking each other around each other you and

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<v Speaker 1>Will what's going on? Oh man? But yeah, you see

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<v Speaker 1>a little different level out here this week. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think so many times when you put pads on, you

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<v Speaker 1>get to that point a week week and a half

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<v Speaker 1>into camp where guys do get a little sick of

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<v Speaker 1>looking at each other and we're another week away from

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<v Speaker 1>seeing another team before we end up up in Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, I mean, guys are getting a little

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<v Speaker 1>sick of each other. It gets a little salty that

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<v Speaker 1>takes the takes the effort to another level. I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, I think in this this first week. It's

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<v Speaker 1>my first look at a traditional NFL training camp, at

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<v Speaker 1>least on a daily basis. But we're getting the full

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<v Speaker 1>camp experience, which is what those guys lacked last year.

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<v Speaker 1>And and it's great. I mean, well, I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>old hat at this, but it's my its time down here.

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<v Speaker 1>But you pointed to something earlier that coach Rules said,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to play it right here about what

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<v Speaker 1>camp is supposed to look and feel like. Let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a listen. Well, I thought today, I mean yesterday was

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<v Speaker 1>just not good at all for the offense, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so um I thought, yeah, they were much better today.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the first day in the red zone, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought we were really kind of really kind of functioned

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<v Speaker 1>well early and then you have to go on all

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<v Speaker 1>the way all the way through late nice two minute

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<v Speaker 1>drive there at the end. So um I said to

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<v Speaker 1>the fans, I said the fans, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be great on offense every day. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be great on defense every day. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of go back and forth. It means you

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<v Speaker 1>have a good team. So, um, yesterday the defense was sharper,

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<v Speaker 1>Today the offense was sharper. I say sharp. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I just think a guy gets beaten, right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just one play. So but I thought the offense looked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better today. So you're listening to that and

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<v Speaker 1>part of that the context it's here. On Wednesday was

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<v Speaker 1>a big offensive day. They started off in red zone

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<v Speaker 1>and it just felt like every other player was a

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown the first three right, and then they went in

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<v Speaker 1>and they did a really good two minute drill kind

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<v Speaker 1>of at the end of practice. You know, they had

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<v Speaker 1>some other a good really bright spots um and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of different sequences throughout practice where the offense just seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like they were they knew they were clicking, they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing it well. The context is yesterday it was the opposite,

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<v Speaker 1>or it felt like the opposite. There are mistakes, there

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<v Speaker 1>are drop balls, there were you know, missed routes, all

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff, and the defense was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>making turnovers, just kind of seeing you know, everywhere. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think what he was kind of saying is to

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd, like that's why it's supposed to be like

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<v Speaker 1>this is you can't just think every time there's an

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<v Speaker 1>interception it means it's a bad throw by the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>or every time there's a really good uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>throw and catch, it means that it was really bad

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<v Speaker 1>coverage by the defense or a bad rush by the lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like that, you have to take a broader

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<v Speaker 1>stroke at it and really kind of think big and

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna flow back and forth each day. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>and he's been really careful talking about that, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the truisms about Camp. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>other side practices too. And just because you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>hear Jacy Horne had two interceptions. That's not the same

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<v Speaker 1>as Sam Donald stinks. And that was talking the other

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<v Speaker 1>day about how you know, if one person does one

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<v Speaker 1>wrong be among the eleven and creates a space, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes Sam look bad for something that's not Sam's fault. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, and I kind of appreciate this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I respected about him. Sam has been willing to raise

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<v Speaker 1>his hand for stuff. I mean, if he throws a pig,

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<v Speaker 1>Sam will be like, yeah, I should have done this,

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<v Speaker 1>this and this. Sam's raising his hand for stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>ain't necessarily his fault. I mean the picks the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Matt circled back the following day and said,

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<v Speaker 1>after we look to film it, clearly the first one

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't Sam's fault. So he runs a bad route and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden there are guys where they shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been, makes for an easy pick for the other side. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a false start in practice on Tuesday. What

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<v Speaker 1>day of the week it is, I lose I lose

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<v Speaker 1>track of time when I come to Spartan birg Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know there was one on Tuesday where there's

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<v Speaker 1>a false start that may or may not have been

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<v Speaker 1>Sam's fault. Sam took off and ran the lab. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he is showing an accountability and I think

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<v Speaker 1>dudes in the locker room appreciate that, and and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to see, you know, their quarterback. I mean, these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are still learning Sam, and Sam walks in the door.

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<v Speaker 1>He is among the first handful of players out there

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<v Speaker 1>on the field every day. He is accountable and owns's mistakes,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's out here grinding and getting better. And and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll find out over the course of the year whether

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<v Speaker 1>Sam is not up great at quarterback or Sam is

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<v Speaker 1>what they think he could be. But the signs are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty positive right now, or they're at least not negative.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think when people here big interception numbers, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, the offense must be a disaster. What's wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with Donald? But Sam's been okay, And and as we

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<v Speaker 1>just said, I think we're willing to hear it with

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<v Speaker 1>the defense. But training cap is the time to work

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<v Speaker 1>these things out, like right now, the first week down

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<v Speaker 1>early second week, this is the time where it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>to figure all these things out, go up against good

0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.080
<v Speaker 1>competition and to you guys point about you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>day it's going to be the offense that's shining, the

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<v Speaker 1>next day it's going to be the defense, or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want one unit looking great the entire time

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<v Speaker 1>because when one unit looks good, and even though as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, it's it's a lot more nuanced than that.

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<v Speaker 1>If one unit is consistently looking amazing, what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with the other side. So I mean, that's what that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we're seeing out here, and uh and and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been it's been a good first first full week. And

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<v Speaker 1>not to get too far ahead of ourselves. But next

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<v Speaker 1>week when you do, I mean, this year there's two

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<v Speaker 1>sets of joint practices, which is just adds a whole

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<v Speaker 1>other element to it. But I remember the first time that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I went up to Tennessee back in seen

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<v Speaker 1>when they played the Titans, and you know, practice up

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<v Speaker 1>there with them. You're so used to watching the one

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<v Speaker 1>on ones with these guys, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you see our guys going against guys in Titan Blue,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see, oh, that's how that stacks up. You know, Oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy maybe can't cover some other receivers that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's covering the threes for you know, the Panthers, and

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<v Speaker 1>now here's the one for Tennessee and you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>the vice versa. Man like he just really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>beat this guy and he's really pretty good. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of interesting things that you're gonna start seeing

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<v Speaker 1>next week when there is another team over there, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's a different look, it's a different feel,

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<v Speaker 1>and a very good team too. Yeah, although they've had there,

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<v Speaker 1>they've had their issues this past couple of weeks. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>on the Hill said something to me last week about

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<v Speaker 1>this camp is almost a little boring. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>fans said something like that, and I was like, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want an exciting camp. The Colts are having

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<v Speaker 1>an exciting camp right now. They're without their quarterback. They're

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<v Speaker 1>without Quinton Nelson for the next five to twelve weeks

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<v Speaker 1>with foot surgeries. They've got all kind of stuff going

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<v Speaker 1>on up there. You don't want that. You would like

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<v Speaker 1>to have boring, uneventful, nobody's getting hurt. Knock on wood.

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<v Speaker 1>Boring very rarely is a good thing at trually, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, Excitement is very rarely a good thing at

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<v Speaker 1>training camp. Usually that trends in the wrong direction. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want that, for sure, and the Colts have

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<v Speaker 1>got their share of it right now. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that being said to Will's point, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I was looking forward to this summer is, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>people keep talking about Derek Brown looking better. Over there's

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<v Speaker 1>Quintin Nelson. Now we'll see, you know, And you get

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<v Speaker 1>in situations like that, and you know, unfortunately Nelson's injured

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I'm not going to be able to be

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<v Speaker 1>out there, unfortunately for Quinton more so than us. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it is going to be a good

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<v Speaker 1>barometer when you get into that and seeing them against

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<v Speaker 1>other guys. And I know the coaching staff is very

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<v Speaker 1>much looking forward to that. Again, not to compare always

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<v Speaker 1>to to last year, but you think about this coaching

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<v Speaker 1>staff and many of these players, this this is their

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<v Speaker 1>first time to be able to go up against competition

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<v Speaker 1>short of a game, right, So so last year the

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<v Speaker 1>first time and the only time that they got to

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<v Speaker 1>see some of their guys, some of their twos or

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<v Speaker 1>threes that might have had to come in against other

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<v Speaker 1>competition was in the regular season. That was just the

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<v Speaker 1>way things went. So you see them in practice against

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that go up against every day, or you

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<v Speaker 1>see them in a game when they're when they have

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<v Speaker 1>to go in. And my favorite part about next week,

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<v Speaker 1>the first depth chart is going to be really Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>those are always fun time for me. Yeah, it's very unofficial,

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<v Speaker 1>very unofficial or unofficial and subject to change, but fans

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<v Speaker 1>are fans are gonna love. They're gonna be looking to see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean things that yeah, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see who's out there running with the runs

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<v Speaker 1>when we're going with the two is like that that's changing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not in stone. But you know, unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're really here and unless you're really you know, diving

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<v Speaker 1>deep into Darren's tweets, you know, I mean, so Darren,

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<v Speaker 1>who is starting at left tackle? Or am I jumping

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<v Speaker 1>the gun on on some questions that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>answer later. Thing, Let's hold onto that. Ye sorry, I

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<v Speaker 1>only because I want to talk about one thing now.

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<v Speaker 1>Will is You know this is not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>nearly as exciting as the depth chart that Will is

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<v Speaker 1>looking for. I want all of your clicks next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me them clicks. Let me just say what I

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<v Speaker 1>am excited about really quickly before we get into those questions.

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<v Speaker 1>A little something called fan Fest. I'm just really looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to it because, as I said, we had that

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<v Speaker 1>July thirty one back together Saturday practice. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>little precursor, a little sneak peek to fan Fest. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt like down here in Spartan Burgret Gift Stadium. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time I've been a Panthers fan for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, but it was the first time on

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<v Speaker 1>the job that I was down there and I got

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<v Speaker 1>to see the top Cats perform for an audience, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was about six thousand people. Um, top Cats perform

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<v Speaker 1>for an audience. The black and Blue crew, the percussion

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<v Speaker 1>get to hear the fans yelling out people's names, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was really the first time that as the team reporter,

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten to see that. And I talked to coach Rule.

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<v Speaker 1>He addressed the fans before the practice and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the largest crowd that we've coached for. And

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<v Speaker 1>so fan Fest next week, I think we're somewhere around

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<v Speaker 1>with forty thousand tickets sold. Um, I'm I'm just thrilled

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a fan and a longtime Panthers fan,

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<v Speaker 1>and as someone who cares a lot about this team.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course it's it's our jobs. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have been there in an official capacity, but I

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<v Speaker 1>have yet to be on the field at Bank of

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<v Speaker 1>America Stadium and see more than however many the maximum

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<v Speaker 1>amount of fans allowed were last year, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>say it's not just me, it's a lot of the players.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Chin told me on the opening day of camp

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<v Speaker 1>that this is the first time he's been able to

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<v Speaker 1>see Panthers fans up close. So we got to hear

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a few people chanting his name, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be just a great moment for

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<v Speaker 1>I hope people listening. We're gonna be able to come

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in the Charlotte area. I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be really special for a lot of people. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the thing that makes it really neat is that

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<v Speaker 1>the players and the coaching staff care just as much

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<v Speaker 1>and are going to be just as touched and excited

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<v Speaker 1>as the fans who are there watching. So I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really thrilled about that, and it felt like a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>The other night there were six thousand and change and

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<v Speaker 1>get Stadium and it's six thousand was the big crowd

0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.439
<v Speaker 1>they've been in front of. Six thousand created kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an atmosphere that had goose bumps because it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>smaller stadium and we had to think about six thousand

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<v Speaker 1>at a certain point last season. But they're spread out

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. It felt different to get to

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<v Speaker 1>hear all of them do a key pounding chant and

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<v Speaker 1>to get to be, you know, where they could yell

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<v Speaker 1>and people could hear them. It was just it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>I I like the fireworks excited about I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's no depth chart, but will entertain some fireworks. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a very simple man. I need a depth chart and

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<v Speaker 1>I want fireworks in August because you know, y'all, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>cover practice. You all cover practice and do your thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm going to come from Kristen. Are very serious,

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<v Speaker 1>We're very head down focused on the football work. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's the one of the best fireworks shows

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<v Speaker 1>ever that I've ever seen. Every year, it's it's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. I've heard some I've heard some things. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. I've heard some things about this one specifically, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we can expect to live. Yeah, I'm gonna be hosting

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<v Speaker 1>the live portion of fan Fast Edition, doing sideline for

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<v Speaker 1>the broadcast, and I get heard I'm writing up my

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<v Speaker 1>scripts and I heard a little bit about what to

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<v Speaker 1>expect and will I think you are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're gonna be very pleased. I think everyone

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<v Speaker 1>needs to come. Five dollars pants dot com sign up,

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<v Speaker 1>get your tickets. We hope to see you there. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into these questions. So last week we did

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<v Speaker 1>or two weeks whenever? Time is a construct at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>The last podcast we did. We each had a question

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<v Speaker 1>that we wanted answered before we recorded this one when

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<v Speaker 1>we were down here in Spartanburg. Mine pretty much already

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<v Speaker 1>got answered. I just wanted to know how hot is

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<v Speaker 1>it really in Spartanburg. Now Darren is saying it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bombing or whatever, you know, just really pleasant. He

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<v Speaker 1>only worries about the dew point. He likes the dew

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<v Speaker 1>point being low. The humidity is what it gets me

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<v Speaker 1>that I like to look at the humidity percentage. It's

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. It were very lucky to have practice early

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning. What I did not anticipate is like

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon walk to the cafeteria or to a meeting

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<v Speaker 1>room or something like that. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>now I get it, and you guys said I would

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<v Speaker 1>get it, and I get it. But very excited to

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<v Speaker 1>be here and very excited they don't have two a

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<v Speaker 1>day still. That was listening to those I know, listening

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<v Speaker 1>to former players and and Darren talk about those, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>feeling very fortunate. So I'd say, it's hot, but good,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's okay. Um, Will your question that you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted answered was will Darren Sandals make an appearance at

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<v Speaker 1>training camp. You said they were something of a local legend,

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<v Speaker 1>a tradition if you will. Well, apparently they made one yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>He had the he had the mountain boots. He had

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<v Speaker 1>the mountain boots, and then he changed it into the

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<v Speaker 1>birken stocks after practice when he was safely back in

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<v Speaker 1>dry Land. We I had never seen them, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, training camp rookie. So I was not where

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<v Speaker 1>at the time were the socks and the birken stocks

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<v Speaker 1>included when you heard about the legend of Darren's Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're one of the same. Oh, they're just

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<v Speaker 1>a slip on. It's part of the part of the look. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not afraid of socks and sandals. I've

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<v Speaker 1>reached a secure place in my life where, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>constructs like fashion don't matter as much. Can I say

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<v Speaker 1>that we have a we have an intern on our

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<v Speaker 1>production staff. She's very young, very fashionable, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>also wearing socks in birken stocks. Now fashion fashion on

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<v Speaker 1>the year cycle right there, right, So it keeps coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>So my shoes and my sunglasses they always come back around. No,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing with the weather. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>I broke in, you know, I finally broke down after

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen years and bought another pair of birken Stocks. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a new pair and I'm still sort of

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<v Speaker 1>breaking them in a little bit, so going in and

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<v Speaker 1>out between the tennis shoes, between the run and shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>between the barks. But yeah, it's it's that time. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you someone that would keep your old pair for sentimental value? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've met nineteen years. That's a lot, a lot. Darren

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<v Speaker 1>has shown me his his notebooks from two thousand one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible. I know, man, after my own heart, I

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<v Speaker 1>would do the same. All right, Darren, your question you

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<v Speaker 1>had to looking at them now. Darren, your first question

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<v Speaker 1>was what time is lunch? Yeah? Did you find that out? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>We did find that out, and I take what being

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<v Speaker 1>down here after? We gets a great question. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good question. And a lot of times there's that

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<v Speaker 1>flurry of activity right after practice. We're trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>observations posted and all that kind of stuff as quick

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<v Speaker 1>as we can, and you look up and it's like

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.640
<v Speaker 1>we've got five minutes until lunch closes. So we're making

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<v Speaker 1>a mad dash over the cafeteria but yeah, they're taking

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 1>good care of us. We're not being poorly fed here. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>very very thankful for the entire the staff that keeps

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<v Speaker 1>everything running. Um here, it's it's great. So then you

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<v Speaker 1>had another question also that you wanted to answer. This

0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 1>one might be a little harder to answer at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than what time was lunch? Who's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>at left tackle? Yeah, and we still don't know that,

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<v Speaker 1>do we? We um We have watched every practice and

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<v Speaker 1>they are running every combination of guys. They're still putting

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Moten over there from time to time at left tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't I think they would in a perfect world,

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<v Speaker 1>they would find someone who can do it well enough

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<v Speaker 1>that they can leave Taylor alone. And so the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks are going to be able are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be about finding out if you can trust cam irving,

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<v Speaker 1>finding out if you're gonna go Dinnis Dally, finding out

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, maybe Trent Scott goes over there so

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor can stay on the right or is it Taylor?

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, yesterday's practice was interesting because so much

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<v Speaker 1>of the oxygen was taken up with the concern over

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Kirkwood after the big hit when he went down,

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:38.359
<v Speaker 1>but kind of lost in that was, Oh, look over there,

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Greg Little's playing with the ones at left tackle. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Greg's certainly not the favorite for that job,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know that I would expect him to

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<v Speaker 1>win it. But you know, they've rolled five different guys

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<v Speaker 1>into that position at one point, you know, with the

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>furs or with the first and second group. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>no clearer now than it was the first week of camp.

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<v Speaker 1>I think over the next couple of weeks we'll start

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<v Speaker 1>to get a little more clarity on that now that

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<v Speaker 1>guys are in pads and settling into routines. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they really do. I think want to see if somebody, anybody,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's Cam Erring, whether it's Dennis Daily, can be

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<v Speaker 1>the guy so you can leave Taylor at the spot

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<v Speaker 1>where you already know he's really good. Can I ask

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<v Speaker 1>if you were Pat Meyer, the offensive line coach, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you were Matt Rule, Joe Brady, whoever on that

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>offensive staff that will have a say in that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we've heard, we've heard both Matt Rule and

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to scoff fit or the other day

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<v Speaker 1>just you know it's going to be a fluid situation,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, and it would almost not be right

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<v Speaker 1>I think in coach rules words, if it weren't a

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<v Speaker 1>fluid situation. We need to see them. As you said,

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<v Speaker 1>we first stop with seeing those guys and paths, then

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<v Speaker 1>against these two other teams that they will have joint

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<v Speaker 1>practices with. When would you want to make that decision,

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<v Speaker 1>ideally before going into the season if you were the coach,

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<v Speaker 1>because on the one hand that no one's stood out

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<v Speaker 1>enough yet, not maybe that they are supposed to yet,

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<v Speaker 1>But when would you want to have a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>of who that guy is going to be for such

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<v Speaker 1>an important position. I think a couple of weeks into

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason you need to know. And again by that time,

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>you will have seen the Colts, you will have seen

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens down here, and you'll be in that spot

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>where you've got some stuff degrade, and I think ideally

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<v Speaker 1>they'd like to find which five and put them in

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<v Speaker 1>place so you can kind of grow. But it's you know, again,

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>they keep running guys in and out. And it changed

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit this week when Pads went on. You

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<v Speaker 1>see certain guys start to exert a little more influence.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Dennis Daley is a big, physical guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>in pads he's gonna look different than when he's running

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<v Speaker 1>around in chills trying to be agile. Uh. Deante Brown,

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the rookie from Alabama, same way, he looks much better.

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>He's big man anyway, but when you put him in pads,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, that's a big man right there, and

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 1>he can move people around. And we know that from

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<v Speaker 1>watching what he did at Alabama and college, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's been interesting to me those two among the second

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<v Speaker 1>the quote unquote second group that's not that conventional wisdom

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.159
<v Speaker 1>first five that were used to looking at on the

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<v Speaker 1>depth chart. I think those two guys and and Trent

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<v Speaker 1>Scott are kind of the ones that are competing to

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<v Speaker 1>see them who's going to move up a chair? And

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<v Speaker 1>then once you get some of those jobs settled, then

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<v Speaker 1>you got alf Line, Imparatis and John Miller in the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>and can one of these guys breakthrough and take a

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<v Speaker 1>job from him? You were talking about how big the

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<v Speaker 1>old line looks in pad. So I'm very happy that

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<v Speaker 1>I get to, you know, safely stand on the field

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<v Speaker 1>and watch practice. And the old line was was I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they were jogging. They weren't coming at me and

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<v Speaker 1>in any type of way. They were jogging towards their

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<v Speaker 1>next drill, and I happened to be I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would say it was forty yards away,

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<v Speaker 1>not close. They were running out of leisurely pace going

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<v Speaker 1>over to their next drill, and I was, you know,

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 1>on the side of one of the fields. They're coming

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<v Speaker 1>directly at me and by no means was it a

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<v Speaker 1>close or were they running fast? But do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>get over? I just wanted to like, at what point

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>do you ever get over that feeling like a bad

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<v Speaker 1>dream at a certain point with a group of NFL

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>old lineman running your way, Even though there was no

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:05.680
<v Speaker 1>way they were going to hit me, nor were they

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>going fast enough, it's still just something that you go, oh, yeah,

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>this feels like I've had a bad dream. But you

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 1>know when you wake up and you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>following or something, I want to welcome. I'm a preemptive yeah,

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm a pre emptive mover. Like I'm moving back in

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the day two minutes before they reached my mark. When

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 1>you're when you're like, you know, really on the side

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 1>of the field, when the digital team you know, or

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:28.719
<v Speaker 1>the media or whatever could like be kind of up

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>there and you know there's a long pass down Like

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>when that ball is in the air anywhere near coming

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 1>my direction, I'm already stepping back. I'm pre emptively just moving.

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I gotta have a head on a swivel if you're

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be down there at best, if if a football

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<v Speaker 1>comes my way, this is my sideline trick. Always had

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>a clipboard. I'm batting it down that's if I can't.

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>If there's no other option, I'm batting. You're not trying

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>to catch it with one hand. No, I thought you wouldn't.

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I think I did. Would you ever bring a baseball

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>glove to a but my but back to that Tennessee trip,

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<v Speaker 1>that was like my shining glory that it's all been

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>downhill from there because a ball had the perfect bounce.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like way long, no one's near it,

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>perfect bounce like on one hop. Caught it with my

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>left hand in the same hand, threw it back to

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the ball guy, perfect spiral and with your left with

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<v Speaker 1>my left I mean I'm left handed, so it's not right. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been it's been downhill ever since. All right, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a quick break and when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got more from training camp. Mr Jenkins told me.

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Jenkins told me. Mr Jenkis told me to always

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<v Speaker 1>want to call. You're gonna love these people. I guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>see got to Morrish Jenkins dot com. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>or visit Morris Jenkins dot com. Darren, it's time for

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>the Get off my Lawn Rant of the week. Is

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<v Speaker 1>anything about training camp making you feel some type of way? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. There was something that was actually

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool and this is more positive than negative out

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<v Speaker 1>in practice on Wednesday, a bunch of the lineman, offensive

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<v Speaker 1>and defensive lineman, we're wearing these big cauliflower head pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great way to describe them if anyone has

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<v Speaker 1>not seen them. Cauliflower head is um, it's a good look.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's different. It's a big padded shell. And they

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<v Speaker 1>call them Guardian caps and they fit over your helmet

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.719
<v Speaker 1>and it's just an extra layer of padding. And because

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<v Speaker 1>of the research the league's done and a lot of

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 1>independent doctors have done on concussions and subconcussive blows, I

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>mean those it's one thing to get the big shot

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 1>that you see on the highlights and everybody's scared up.

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>But when offensive and defensive lineman get up out of

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<v Speaker 1>stand to run into each other, when you do that

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<v Speaker 1>fifty times in a practice, you know eventually that has

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<v Speaker 1>an effect. So these guys have chosen a lot of them,

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>probably twenty or so of the combined alignement. We're wearing

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>those things out in practice Wednesday, and it's just an

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>extra layer of protection. And I talked to Deonta, I

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>talked to Brady Christians and about it, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you hear it from the young guys. When

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you hear rookies say, well, yeah, I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>protect myself, I think it's a really neat change with

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the way people think because at a certain point, you know,

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>some of the hardheaded stuff about football, some of the

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>macho stuff eventually has to go away. Players have to

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>protect themselves. And I thought it was pretty cool, as

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>we put in our story, I mean, Brady christians And

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<v Speaker 1>said I want to protect my brain. I mean, and

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 1>he was very matter of fact about it. But I

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>like hearing players think that way. And even though it

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>looks a little funny. I mean, these guys are out

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>there running around like the Great Gazoo from the flint Stone,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, yeah, it should be fair. I mean

0:31:56.400 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>they're they're professional athletes. They look more than all the

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>rest of us, right like anyone else who was not

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>playing in the end, they start at a very high

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>level of coolness, and it's different. But I love hearing

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>rookies walk in the door with an immediate sense of

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>protecting myself, knowing, you know, they they're in this for

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the long haul and they're going to be people long

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>after their football players. Great, great point, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>so nice to hear those younger players. It's just the

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>way they think, you know, the way people of that can.

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I say that generation, younger generation, and you know, with

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>their TikTok and they're protecting their brains. The young people's

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>so Darren, you've been coming down to Spartanberg, as we said,

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>for for a long time. I've heard you got some

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Spartanburg observations. Because it's been what two years since you've

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>been down here last time, it's been a little bit

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis. Are you feeling about your old

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 1>stopping grounds? I like it. I like it now, I

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>mean naturally I used to when I was younger and

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I did not have such a regard for safety. I

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>would always take a picture with my phone at the

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>peak joy driving down so on the way to camp

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the other week, I made sure to get off the

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Inner State and stop and pick up new picture of

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the love I get the newsletter, which I love. I

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>did not realize. I like that you got out because

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>it's um it's got a little detail on the back

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>that I had never seen before. You haven't watched you

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>haven't watched House of Cards. Yeah, but for forever ago

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that first season came out how long. I mean they

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>pointed that out Barry explicitly. It's ringing a bell now.

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>But I'm going Darren over in depth perspective I'm trying

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>to bring to this job. It was worth, it was

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>worth getting out and U but I love being in

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the Spartanburg community. I mean everything about this there's a

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 1>it's quaint. I mean, Spartanburg is lovely and Spartanburg way

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>different than it was twenty five years ago when we

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>first twenty six years ago we first started coming down here.

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's like a city now. They're restaurants

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and bars and cool stuff to do. It weren't always

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>here in the nineties. So it's a it's a sublime experience.

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I love it. They. I mean I I my first

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>day here, I came down. I got boj Angles and

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I had some Krispy Creme, you know, just to be

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>fair you could do in Charlotte. But they it feels different, different, Yeah, yeah,

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>it really does. So. Of course, you know, if you

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>are an avid subscriber to Darren's daily um email newsletter,

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 1>do you know you know the saga of the Doug.

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 1>So the Doug is the old Krispy Kreme that's across

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the street from the new Krispy Creme. And their old

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>fashioned sign says d O U G H and uts,

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>so like an old way to spell donuts. But of

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.439
<v Speaker 1>course half the sign is either on or off at

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>various points on which side of the sign right, So

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 1>Doug is either here or not here. But I was

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>fascinated by this morning. I mean, so the old building,

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>it's still there. It doesn't look like anyone's been in

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 1>it for twenty years, fifteen years, but the lights were

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<v Speaker 1>on this morning, so you know, I asked Darren. You know,

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>he knows the answered everything. You know, what's what's going

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 1>on over there? And I think, and this could be

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 1>urban legend and somebody, I'm sure a Spartan burgean will

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>tell us um after the fact, but there's some stuff

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>going on. I think they still use it. I don't

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 1>know that it's open for retail. It's obviously inside, but

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I think Doug is squatting there. I think Doug set

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>up shop. I mean we finally found him when you know,

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I came out Saturday night saw the Doug sign was

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:27.359
<v Speaker 1>on on the other side, and then we come out

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>to camp and Doug's here on Saturday night, so I

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>think Doug just stayed, maybe moved in. Have you had

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 1>your Doug nuts Doug donuts? I have had a donut.

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I've limited myself that in. Please, well, you know what,

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:46.839
<v Speaker 1>why don't we just leave it right there? I don't

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>even think we can get better than Why is that?

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. All right, that's gonna that's gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>for the Happy half Hour podcast, we will talk to

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you guys are going to him. Thanks too much of

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<v Speaker 1>the name Shout out the Dog.