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Speaker 1: Hell, everybody, welcome in to a special edition of the

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Speaker 1: Move the Sticks Podcast. This is the Senior Bowl roster

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Speaker 1: reveal show, and Red Lewis here with the you know,

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Speaker 1: the Move the six podcast team. Right our NFL scouts

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, Daniel Jeremiah pop over here. It's our pleasure

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Speaker 1: to welcome in the executive director of the Reese's Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl into his second year running the show and Mobile.

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Speaker 1: Glad to have Jim Naggy with us. Yeah, thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me, guys, Thanks for comment. Excited about it. This

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Speaker 1: is also the holiday season and we're getting we're getting

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Speaker 1: our gifts a few days early here as we learned

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Speaker 1: some of the players heading down to Mobile this year.

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Speaker 1: Excited for that, and we'll reveal those players here throughout

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Speaker 1: the show over the course of the next hour. But

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Speaker 1: this is a long process, Jim. I mean, obviously we're

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Speaker 1: getting kind of the final product here, but you've started

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Speaker 1: of what it all entails. Yeah, I really started before

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Speaker 1: last year's draft got to us. So like last March April,

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Speaker 1: we started watching players for this year's game. We really

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Speaker 1: got to give a ton of credit to our our

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Speaker 1: scouting staff, so we we had the country covered with

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Speaker 1: six scouts. Uh. The main thing for us was hiring

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Speaker 1: guys every year that have some NFL experience, have some ties,

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Speaker 1: and I think we saw a hundred and fourteen and

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Speaker 1: and we you know, we took it all the way

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Speaker 1: down to the wire. We were a hundred right now,

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Speaker 1: so we're announcing this and then we're in a hundred.

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Speaker 1: We can get to a hundred and fourteen, so we're, uh,

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Speaker 1: we're getting close. That's all getting really close. Yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 1: I want to welcome all of you watching us on

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Speaker 1: you get your favorite podcast. So guys, Also, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be our pleasure to be joined by the Utah head

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Speaker 1: football coach, Kyle winning Aham here shortly also Auburn defensive

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Speaker 1: lineman Marlin Davidson is gonna be with us as his

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Speaker 1: stay tuned for that coming up here over the course

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Speaker 1: of the next hour. But guys, let's start with the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: shall we. As as we get into the reveal, here

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Speaker 1: a really talented group you had last year. Five of

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Speaker 1: by Sunday a game in the NFL this year. Brier

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Speaker 1: the Colts. Here's a look at who we got coming

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Speaker 1: to Mobile this year to throw the ball around. Uh boy,

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew has proven to be really successful for the Jacks.

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Speaker 1: This year, we get another Washington State quarterback in Anthony Gordon,

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Speaker 1: here today, Guy, you wanna talk about buzz. Jordan's love

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Speaker 1: and will be alive, no doubt. So back to Jordan's

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Speaker 1: Love here, Buck I got had a ton of buzz

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Speaker 1: is a guy that I think brings a lot of

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Speaker 1: versatility in the back end. But I also believe he's

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Speaker 1: going to be a special team's contributor when we get

429
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Speaker 1: to certain stages in the draft, you have to have

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Speaker 1: guys that can do things in the third phase. I

431
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Speaker 1: expect him to be a guy that can certainly contribute

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Speaker 1: on the kicking game. All right, now, excited to watch that,

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Speaker 1: Excited to see some of the guys that these DBS

434
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Speaker 1: will be covering. Shall we get to the wide receivers.

435
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Speaker 1: This is what I want to sound in Mobile. Come

436
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Speaker 1: on now, man, we got a really good group here.

437
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Speaker 1: You heard you heard Christian Fulton mentioned Van Jefferson out

438
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Speaker 1: of Floridas maybe the toughest receiver he saw a year.

439
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Speaker 1: Excited to get Van down in Mobile. I'm sure don't

440
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Speaker 1: sleep on a g G from Liberty. That's what I'm

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Speaker 1: telling I was gonna say. You were telling me about

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Speaker 1: all the acrobatic catches, right, you want to see highlight,

443
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Speaker 1: reelig and athletic. He's fun to watch from Liberty. And

444
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Speaker 1: then you know you saw Devin Duvernet and Colin Johnson.

445
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Speaker 1: You so you get a dynamic duo from Texas. Uh.

446
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Speaker 1: And then we're gonna have Steven Sullivan as part of

447
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Speaker 1: the tight end group, right Jim. Yeah, he's gonna do

448
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Speaker 1: a little bit of both. Okay, there you go. And

449
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Speaker 1: maybe the headliner, one of the headliners of the entire

450
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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl roster is a blitnicof finalist and Michael Pittman Jr.

451
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Speaker 1: From usc who stands out among some pretty talented Trojan

452
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Speaker 1: whiteouts this year. And if you want a guy who

453
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Speaker 1: go up and compete for the ball, we're talking about

454
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Speaker 1: Michael Pittman here dj that Utah defense. We'll see all

455
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Speaker 1: these players from Utah players the game. We're gonna talk

456
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Speaker 1: to their head coach here. But Pittman just destroyed him,

457
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 1: won the game by himself. They couldn't cover him. And

458
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Speaker 1: it's fifty ball after fifty ball and having a chance

459
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Speaker 1: to do these charger games. I watched Michael Pittman and

460
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Speaker 1: I see a lot of Mike Williams who can just

461
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Speaker 1: be a big play machine. Then when you get down

462
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Speaker 1: in the red zone, he can box people out and

463
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Speaker 1: just go up and get it. He played special teams

464
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Speaker 1: as a young player, block punts. He's just a very tough,

465
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Speaker 1: physical guy. And obviously with his dad, everybody remembers his dad,

466
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Speaker 1: the running back. It was a physical runner. This is

467
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Speaker 1: this is a really fun player to study. I'm excited

468
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Speaker 1: about that. And is there a guy that you're you're

469
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Speaker 1: kind of comparing him to. Yeah, to me, it was

470
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Speaker 1: is Mike Williams. I mean that's who he reminds me of.

471
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Speaker 1: And Mike was what the top ten pick for the

472
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Speaker 1: Charges coming out of Clempson. He has that type of physicality. Um,

473
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Speaker 1: and I think with the way this draft shakes out.

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Speaker 1: He probably comes into this Mobile week in the second round.

475
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Speaker 1: But we've seen guys before go down to Mobile as

476
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Speaker 1: second round picks and leaving from round picks there you

477
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Speaker 1: go or his virtual unknowns and end up like a

478
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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup as a as a third round pick of

479
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Speaker 1: the l A. Rams. Let's get to Brian Edwards from

480
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Speaker 1: South Carolina. Yeah, DJ brought up the special teams with Pittman.

481
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Speaker 1: This guy is a football player. I mean he returns punts,

482
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Speaker 1: he covers kicks. Um, you look at South Carolina lineage,

483
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Speaker 1: at wide receiver Sterling, Sharp, el Shan, Jeffrey, all these

484
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Speaker 1: great players. This guy is the leading receiver in South

485
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Speaker 1: Carolina history. How is at the Alabama game this fall?

486
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Speaker 1: And sometimes you guys know this. You're you're watching a

487
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Speaker 1: game live and you just feel certain things about a

488
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Speaker 1: player more or whether it's arm, strength or speed. You

489
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Speaker 1: felt this guy's physicality that day. Um it Bryce Williams Stadium.

490
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Speaker 1: I mean he's aggressive, stiff arm on the sideline in

491
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Speaker 1: that game. He's aggressive. He's got this mentality and he's

492
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Speaker 1: a guy that makes plays at all three levels. I

493
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Speaker 1: don't know how fast he's gonna run, but he's a

494
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Speaker 1: guy that's got a knack for getting deep. He'll he'll

495
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Speaker 1: be like that old school West Coast slant runner that

496
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Speaker 1: can take a slant and go. He's so he's just

497
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Speaker 1: got a pros game. This guy's got a pros game.

498
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Speaker 1: He's a pro. You talk to everyone in the building,

499
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Speaker 1: he's a pro already. From in terms of preparation, you know,

500
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Speaker 1: there's already teams in the league. Deebo Samuel last year

501
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Speaker 1: is having a great rookie year. And I've heard from

502
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Speaker 1: teams already that they see they see Ryan Edwards at

503
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Speaker 1: or above where they had Debo last year. Debo has

504
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Speaker 1: really come on for Yeah, in the last few weeks

505
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Speaker 1: for that squad. Hey, look, I mentioned Duvernat and Johnson

506
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Speaker 1: from Texas, but a trio of Big twelve receivers with

507
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Speaker 1: Denzel Mims joining the crew down a mobile. Yeah. I

508
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Speaker 1: think the thing about the Big twere the one thing

509
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Speaker 1: that you know as the ball flies all over the ball,

510
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Speaker 1: so you have plenty of opportunities see guys make plays.

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Speaker 1: Denzel Mims to me, really stands out as a playmaker.

512
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Speaker 1: Twenty seven touchdowns the last three years, and when you

513
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Speaker 1: watch them, when you watch Baylor and they need to play.

514
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Speaker 1: He is a playmaker and for a guy his size

515
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Speaker 1: six pounds, he runs routes, he's very effective. He does

516
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Speaker 1: a great job. And then the two Texas kids, um

517
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Speaker 1: Colin Johnson is a guy who had a lot of

518
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Speaker 1: hype coming into the season. Didn't necessarily have the numbers

519
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Speaker 1: that you want to see, but the size smooth and

520
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Speaker 1: for someone that is that tall to see him get

521
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Speaker 1: in and out of his breaks to balance and the

522
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Speaker 1: body control, plus having the ability to be a red

523
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Speaker 1: zone weapon, that's fantastic. And then Daverne is just a speaster.

524
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Speaker 1: In high school, he was a one meter champion at

525
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Speaker 1: the highest level six a ran ten to seven and

526
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Speaker 1: a hundred meters. That translates to about what you say

527
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Speaker 1: to seven ten to seven winning it, it translates. And

528
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Speaker 1: then this year we saw him have a lot of production.

529
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Speaker 1: Over one hundred yards, has a thousand over a hundred

530
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Speaker 1: catch is a thousand yards. He's a big time playmaker

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Speaker 1: in the slot. Reminds me a lot of Golden Tate.

532
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Speaker 1: Not refined as a route runner, but if he figures

533
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Speaker 1: it out, he's gonna a playmaker at the next level.

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Speaker 1: Just back to the speed, real quick. Last year's class,

535
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Speaker 1: Andyazabella from US you know, had had a great sea

536
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Speaker 1: a week went in the second round of the Cardinals.

537
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Speaker 1: He was a ten five one out of high school

538
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Speaker 1: and ran four three one at the combine. What is

539
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Speaker 1: ten to gonna equate to a great question? Because that's

540
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Speaker 1: all we talked about for Isabella was the speed. Right,

541
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Speaker 1: that'll be fun to watch um with those guys, all right, Uh,

542
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Speaker 1: we can't leave the returners out of this, says Well.

543
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Speaker 1: I mean, like Brandon a Yuk from Arizona State. I mean,

544
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Speaker 1: we talk about one of the best returners in football.

545
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Speaker 1: To me, he's one of the best receivers. I think

546
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Speaker 1: he's a first round player. As he's going through this process,

547
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Speaker 1: run after catch a lot of times. You'll see that, Bucky,

548
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Speaker 1: you always talked about that with with Ted Thompson used

549
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Speaker 1: to always covered returners. Jim, you know that as well.

550
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Speaker 1: This kid, what he does as a returner you see

551
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Speaker 1: after the catch as well, making people miss um. He

552
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Speaker 1: is a run after the catch guy. You just get

553
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. He can play inside, he

554
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Speaker 1: can play outside. We've talked about toughness, which I think

555
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: is one of those qualities when you go back and

556
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Speaker 1: look through all these receivers that hit, they all have

557
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Speaker 1: that in common. You it's hard to play in today's

558
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Speaker 1: NFL if you're not tough. This kid's tough, he's elusive

559
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Speaker 1: and he can return. That's awesome. And uh again we

560
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Speaker 1: will see him, uh and everybody starting uh Senior Bowl

561
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Speaker 1: Week game obviously January, and then we will are jan

562
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Speaker 1: January and Senior Bowl Week starts that Monday of the week.

563
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Speaker 1: So excited excited to that for that and then uh,

564
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Speaker 1: here at a special edition of the movie The Sticks Podcast,

565
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Speaker 1: a few of our tight ends that are gonna be

566
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Speaker 1: heading down to Mobile for the reseas Senior Bowl. How

567
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: about Harrison Briant here nine catches over a hundred sixty

568
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Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns in two games on NFL Network

569
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Speaker 1: the year as part of our Conference USA package, So

570
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Speaker 1: he knows how to play on national TV. So we

571
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Speaker 1: get to see him again on NFL Network during Senior

572
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Speaker 1: Bowl Week of course. So we've got Adam Troutman will

573
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Speaker 1: be there from Dayton as well, and and Jim some

574
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Speaker 1: of those tight ends that you've got listed, you're gonna

575
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Speaker 1: ask to play fullback right right right instead of forcing

576
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Speaker 1: a couple undrafted free agents into those fullback spots. We

577
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Speaker 1: we determined the warnay draftable true fullbacks in this year's class,

578
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Speaker 1: similar to last year when Trayvon west Go from West

579
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Speaker 1: Virginia Kames related a back, yeah, and he won the

580
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Speaker 1: fourth round. He's the Jets starter right now. We're gonna

581
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Speaker 1: do that with Daguaro from Cincinnati and uh and Charlie

582
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Speaker 1: from Portland State. I don't want to butch with Charlie's

583
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Speaker 1: last name. I gotta get automobile and and but Charlie's

584
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Speaker 1: gonna do some of that too. We're gonna be working

585
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Speaker 1: on that, Charlie. That's it. That's as far as we're going.

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Speaker 1: We love you, Charlie. We're excited to get you. But

587
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Speaker 1: let's get back to Harrison Brian, who by always the

588
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Speaker 1: Macky Award winner for the top tight end in college

589
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Speaker 1: football this year from Florida Atlantic getting to call the

590
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Speaker 1: mobile here. Buck Well deserved. This is a really good

591
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Speaker 1: player when you watch him on tape, and he's kind

592
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Speaker 1: of one those new school tie ends that everybody wants

593
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Speaker 1: in their offense. A guy that can split out playing

594
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Speaker 1: the slot. He's a mismatch on the outside runs. Ralph

595
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: shows excellent body control. I love his run after catch.

596
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Speaker 1: And if I'm a team just looking for a flex

597
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: tight in, someone that can do some of these things

598
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Speaker 1: that we've seen Dallas Goddard and Zach Erst, I'm not

599
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Speaker 1: putting them in that category. But this is a dynamic player.

600
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Speaker 1: This is somebody that we could be talking about in

601
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Speaker 1: day two as a possibility if he goes and shows

602
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: up well and plays well in mobile. Uh DJ, how

603
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: about Bryson Hopkins from Purdue. Well, because Rut's Indiana guy

604
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Speaker 1: and this is a Purdue player, I want to maintain

605
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Speaker 1: our friendship, I'm gonna let you talk well, Hopkins. You

606
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: know that's the funny thing about Hopkins first got on

607
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Speaker 1: my radar last year in the Atlanta airport. I'm in

608
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Speaker 1: there right before the draft and I see David Blow,

609
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Speaker 1: his former court now with the lines, and he comes

610
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Speaker 1: up to me and introduced himself. When we start talking,

611
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Speaker 1: I said, well, who do we get for the Senior

612
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Speaker 1: Bowl next year? He's like my tight end. He's like

613
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Speaker 1: tight ends. Really, he's gonna jump thirty nine inches. He's

614
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Speaker 1: giving me a little scouting reports. So thank you David

615
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Speaker 1: Blow for put scouting putting him on the radar, but

616
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Speaker 1: now really athletic past sketcher, similar to what Bucky was

617
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Speaker 1: saying about about Harrison Bryant. Really good guy in the

618
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: past game, mismatch guy with his athleticism. Okay, how about

619
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Speaker 1: no follow up on Well, To be honest, as much

620
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Speaker 1: as it pains, he played really well against Indiana this

621
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Speaker 1: year in the game. But they felt just short, all

622
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Speaker 1: right to tell us about Adam Trautman from Dayton. Yeah,

623
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Speaker 1: Adams one of the small school guys were really excited about,

624
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Speaker 1: you know, along with Kyle Tugger, who we've already profiled.

625
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: Adams a guy I think again day two. Maybe you

626
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: know he's really an athletic pass catcher, similar you know,

627
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Speaker 1: man amongst boys quality with some of these small school guys.

628
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Speaker 1: You don't have to go looking for him on the tape.

629
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Speaker 1: So we had a scout go through Dayton earlier this year.

630
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Speaker 1: He had four touchdown catches in the first half. This

631
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: scout text me, He's like, he just scored his four touchdown.

632
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Speaker 1: I'm on the road to Ohio State. He was double

633
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Speaker 1: dipping that day as I got seeing enough good. Kyle's

634
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: a crisp bro out runner, really athletic. Um can go

635
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: up and make great plays on the ball, and in

636
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: the run game he will put his face on you

637
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Speaker 1: and try to block you. So um, just ramping up.

638
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Speaker 1: See what it looks like in Mobile. Um, you know,

639
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: against a higher quality opponent. That's awesome. All right. So

640
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: those are some of the tight ends. Let's kind of

641
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: stay up there up front on the offensive side. Get

642
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: to our offensive lineman and we'll started there with Ben

643
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: Bretticon from Michigan could end up protecting the quarterback he

644
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: sheltered at Michigan the last two years. With Shay Patterson

645
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: heading down the Mobile as well. And then you look

646
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: at Washington's Nick Harris and Trey Adams. So we got

647
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: a couple of Huskies they're hoping to follow on the

648
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: footsteps of maybe Caleb McGarry ended up heading to the

649
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons as a first round pick. Um. And uh,

650
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: there you go a few of the other offensive linemen

651
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: that are heading down to Mobile. Logan Stenberg, I know

652
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: a guy you're excited about from Kentucky, Jim. So let's

653
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: uh just a thought here on this group that you

654
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: put together. It's a it's a really good group. You know,

655
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: last year's group was really unique in the sense that

656
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: nine of the ten guys from the North squad went

657
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: in the first three rounds. I mean that's that was

658
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: a historically good draft class. And then you had five

659
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: in the first round. So this is these guys are

660
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: a little more developmental there, guys that you know might

661
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: not come in right away and start like to the

662
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: level last year's class did, but a bunch of really

663
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: good players. Ben bartch Division three, So we brought that

664
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: up there, John. You know, we started getting calls on

665
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: Ben in September. And the thing you loved about him

666
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: is that every game he got better, you know, and

667
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: he's got all the measurables. He's six five and a

668
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: half and he's in the spring. He was two eighty

669
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: now he's three oh five. So you know Ali Marpet

670
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: a few years ago. I know, you guys remember Bart

671
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: from Hobart. You know now he just signed a huge

672
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: second contract with the Bucks. I think Bart could have

673
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: a big week. Interesting thing is you talked to teams

674
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: around the league. You start formulating needs during this time

675
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: of year. Offensive line comes up in every single discussion,

676
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: so they're all looking for these guys and That's why

677
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: I think this group has as much opportunity in front

678
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: of him, maybe as any other position in the entire

679
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, especially when you look at who they will

680
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: be facing. This defensive line class is pretty solid. So

681
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: get a chance to watch these guys compete not only

682
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: in one oh ones, but in some of the team drills.

683
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: You will get a chance to see which of those

684
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: developmental guys can pop at the next level. That's awesome.

685
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: Excited about that as well. And again, you know, I

686
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: think it's really cool. One of the things that we've

687
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: seen since Jim has been with the Senior Bowl is

688
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: some of the guys that you're looking at, you know,

689
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: when you guys go out of the games, we see

690
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: the videos you put out on Twitter, and we really

691
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: enjoyed with the Senior Bowl watch list this year and

692
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: kind of following these guys throughout the year has been

693
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: really cool. So this has been a neat process to

694
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: follow as well. Now the edge rushers that are heading

695
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: to Mobile, We've got a talented SEC crew among this group.

696
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: Five SEC players on the Edge Rusher list, including Jonathan

697
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: Grenardo Florida. Grant transfer from Louisville made an impact for

698
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: the Gagers this year and a big reveal here today

699
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: for the first time. Jim Naggy, you are announcing a

700
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: big get with Terrell Lewis from Alabama heading two mobile. Yeah,

701
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: we've been really excited about this. One guy's kind of

702
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: holding enough to see who's gonna graduate. So we walked

703
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: on Saturday so we can announce this thing. We're excited.

704
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: He's really a guy, I mean, top ten talent. When

705
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: you put on especially when you put on certain tapes,

706
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, a scouts, you always want to make that

707
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: player comparison. To me, he was a hard guy to

708
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: make a comp too, because he's so long and Spidery

709
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: is beautiful, but then he's got such a he's got

710
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: such heavy hands. I'm trying to go back and the

711
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: guys I've done over the last you know, over many

712
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: years it's been and he's just a hard guy because

713
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: he's got such unique tools. He's explosive right. Well, you know,

714
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how it happened, but we talked about

715
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: an Alabama guy before an Auburn guy this year and

716
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: after the iron Ball that just shouldn't happen. But it

717
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: is our pleasure now to welcome in Alfred Edge rusher.

718
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: Marlon Davidson is here with us. What's up, Marlin? How

719
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: are you? Man? Everything was good this way? Everything was good? Yeah,

720
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,239
Speaker 1: I bet it is. After the season you guys had

721
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: up front for the Tigers this year. Uh man, there's

722
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: some real talent with you and Derek Brown up there

723
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: leading the way for that group this year. I understand

724
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: there was a pretty good competition going on between you

725
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: guys this year. So, guys, there four teen possible SEC

726
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Week awards. Marlon and Derek Brown

727
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: combined for half of them. They won seven of them,

728
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: and Marlin, you got the edge over Derek with four. Right,

729
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: that was a big competition, right, Yes, of course, I

730
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: mean we we came over that after the first two

731
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: that I want you always just trying to compare it

732
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: back and forth, and we talking about some I'm gonna

733
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: get you, I'm gonna beat you this and that that.

734
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: He came beg me too, and I was like, day,

735
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: I gotta step my game. Hey, Marlon, Jim Naggy, I

736
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: just want to say, first of all, thanks for coming

737
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl. We're excited to get you down

738
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: to Mobile. There's a ton of Auburn fans, big Auburn city,

739
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: So we're excited to get you down. But a guy

740
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna be going up against, everyone looks forward to

741
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: one on one. Since your Bowl week, you got a

742
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: teammate in the game, Prince Tega and no Go So

743
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: I know you guys go against each other all the time.

744
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: Just give us a little you're scouting report on what

745
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: it's like going against Prince Tega. I mean, Prince Tega,

746
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: he's a different guy. I mean his his season didn't

747
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: reflect on how he really is, but I mean he

748
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: is very athletic and he is very powerful. I mean

749
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 1: like it's scared when get some preddent You like, man,

750
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: you gotta play your best at every point of the time.

751
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh no, man, he's a different athlete. Man,

752
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: he's incredible. You know. Morlan uh Red spoke about the

753
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: competition that you have with Derek Brown. Uh going into

754
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: a big event like this, we have so many guys

755
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: that are highly touted. What are some of the things

756
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: that are you trying to prove to separate yourself for

757
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: the rest of the competition At the edge, Rusher, I'm

758
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: just trying to show them that I can rush the

759
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: pastor I can play the wrong and I'm very smart

760
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 1: and I know what team is doing before they can

761
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: even do them. I mean, like, man, my mind's to

762
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: the game is it's totally different than everybody else. I

763
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: just want to show people that, you know, I'm very athletic,

764
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: I can't rush out the edge, and I can do

765
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: it from the inside. Wherever you want me to play,

766
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: I can do it well. Just the building off that.

767
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: Do you remember an example of when you felt like

768
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: a play was coming and it actually happened this season

769
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: that that kind of highlighted any of that for you

770
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: that you remember, Um, the play against Florida, Like I

771
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: knew that there was going to pass the ball, love it,

772
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: oh off and go get him? And I was, and

773
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: I was changing out the game when Darres schooled the

774
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: ball that he failed like dang. And we just saw

775
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: that board a list of five SEC defensive lineman and

776
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: edge rushers coming into this Senior Bowl game. When you

777
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: look at guys around the conference, are are you and

778
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: Derek you guys paying attention to what else is happening

779
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: in the conference. You guys just worried about yourselves. Yeah,

780
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: we are and I mean like we're competing against each other,

781
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: but also appeting against compete against other guys, and you

782
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: never want to know nobody else to be better than you,

783
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Just like you try to take

784
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: the towards that and just show people like I am

785
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: the best and like you you will not be wrong

786
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: with picking me in this draft. And they're just that's

787
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: what we do every day, and we compete against each other,

788
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: but we also compete against other you know, Marl, I

789
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: ask you a question at all. Scales typically asked, is

790
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: there anybody that's playing in the National Football League right

791
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: now that you're patting your game after right now? Not

792
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: at all. I'm actually trying to just you know, compare

793
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: my game to um to Cameron Jordan's now. He is

794
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: like dog. He's a dog, you know what I mean.

795
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: I watched him every every step you're taking the game,

796
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: every play. I just watch it, like anytime I have

797
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: downtime on Sunday, I'll watch it. Then I go back

798
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: and see the highlights of it, just to watch him.

799
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: And he's like that, well, you're following on his footsteps, Marlin.

800
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: He had a huge Senior Bowl week that was well

801
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: about ten years ago he was eballed out Mobile. You

802
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: know you talked about rushing the pastor from the edge

803
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: and the inside. Is there is there one way, one

804
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: one alignment where you feel like you're more comfortable. Actually

805
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: don't matter? Man, Well, well I'm gonna make the money yet.

806
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: I do have one more question for you, because I

807
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: was just curious. Did you ever check up on that

808
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: lady that fell on the hedges? Is she okay? After

809
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: the iron ball get stuck in the hedges? I just

810
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: want to make sure she's all right? Check up on her. No,

811
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know who it was. Something I

812
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: always happened like that at all. But did you get

813
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: out of there with all your gear, your helmet and everything?

814
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: Everything was all accounted for after all that mayhem? After that? Yeah,

815
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: like my equipment guy came and like smash. That's right.

816
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm not that's a good equipment guy. That is a

817
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: smart equipment manager. Well, Marlon Man, we really enjoyed talking

818
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: with you today. We're really looking forward to seeing you

819
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: do in Mobile for Senior Bowl week. Good luck in

820
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: your bowl game. Man, All right, thank you sir. Well,

821
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: so we mentioned all the great talent out on the

822
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: edge man. I mean there's some real studs on the

823
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: interior as well, Jim perhaps some of the greatest concentration

824
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: here of high level talent on this roster. Overall, we've

825
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: got re Kwon Davis, who was kind of the elder

826
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: statesman on a youthful Alabama D line this year. Javon

827
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: kin Law a lot of buzz this year on his

828
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: interior disruption for the game Cocks, and then Lucky Foe

829
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: to as strong a player as maybe there is strength

830
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: wise on this entire roster. Uh In Foe too. That's

831
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: pretty cool. But let's talk about ri Kwon Davis had

832
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: probably his best statistical season like two years ago, right

833
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. So what do you expect to see

834
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: from him Inmobile? Well, I think we can always debate

835
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: what's DBU, Ohio State or else D line. You has

836
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: been Alabama over the last ten years, and in re

837
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: Kuan's got the next guy in line. I hear it

838
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: a lot locally being in Mobile, Alabama. People question, you know,

839
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: did re Kuan have a great year, because like you said,

840
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: the numbers have been down a little bit. But what

841
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: but reck what re Kwan does doesn't show up on paper.

842
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: He he recreates the line of scrimmage. He occupies double teams,

843
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: he lets those backers run. He's big, he's explosive. The

844
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: last couple of years, they've had Dron Payne and they've

845
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: had and Williams. Those guys are a little different body types.

846
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: This think more a Sean Robinson with this guy. This

847
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: guy's tall, he's a mountain of a man. So big,

848
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: powerful dude. Uh you know, I think he's gonna be

849
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: a first round player. I think he's really talented. I've

850
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: loved him for three years, so we're excited to get

851
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: I was at their pro day last year at Alabama.

852
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: I think I might even have seen you there, but

853
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: he there was somebody walking around, this giant human being

854
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: with the Jackie Robinson jersey, and I said, I just

855
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: went over to somebody Alabama, said who's Jackie Robinson. They go, oh, yeah,

856
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: that's him. Break I want. I want Jackie Robinson. That's

857
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: who who I want. Well, let's talk about kin Law,

858
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: a little bit who's really been kind of making a

859
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: name for himself this year for the game Cox. What

860
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: have you seen from him? DJ? Big powerful man and

861
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: he you talked about recreating the line of scrimmage. That's

862
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: what kin Law does every single time you pop on

863
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: the tape. Ironically, app State, my alma mater is probably

864
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: the worst game he played all year when they played

865
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: against the big time opponents in the SEC. He was

866
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: a dominant player. He's long. You see him right here,

867
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: just going right through Alabama. He was very disruptive in

868
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: that football game. Played great against Georgia as well. Um

869
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: So he's look, he's easy. He's a easy scout for me.

870
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: He's a top twenty pick. That's where he starts this

871
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: process and we'll see how high can climb up. Uh, Bucky,

872
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: let's talk again about it here in Oklahoma, guy up

873
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: front and Neville Gallimore. What do you see from him?

874
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: You know, he's a plug with pass rush ability, meaning

875
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: that he is a guy that can play in a

876
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: short area, does a good job against the run, but

877
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: also flashes some quickness, some arm over skills to be

878
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: able to get to the quarterback. And it's hard to

879
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: find into your guys who are able to do both

880
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: and he is unique ability to be able to do that.

881
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 1: And so in the senior boat, when we talk about

882
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: these developmental offensive lineman he may show up and look

883
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: better as a pass Russid than most people envisioned, even

884
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 1: though he's coming off the season where he had FORESA.

885
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna test like a freak, is what I've been

886
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: told by a bunch of folks, So keep an eye

887
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: on him. Loving the big guys test off the chart.

888
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: So how's the rest of the d line group shaping up? Here?

889
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: Is this? Is this a kind of a full group

890
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: at this point? Yeah, we're We're pretty We're pretty full.

891
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: You know, Derek Brown from Auburn we were waiting on,

892
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: but Dereks gonna play in this ball game and shut

893
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: it down. Which he's a great player. He's had a

894
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: here next to Marlon Davidson. So yeah, we're full. It's

895
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: it's a really good group. A lot of different skill sets.

896
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: And in back to Neville Gallamore Canadian guy, yes so

897
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: and Chase Claypool for Notre Dame the recen Canadian guys.

898
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: So we got two Canadians. By the way, real quick,

899
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: your Twitter handle is what Jim Naggy underscore sp okay

900
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: so Ohio State fans, I want to have a debate

901
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: with the whole day. I want to make sure that

902
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: they can't they debate every position group though both those

903
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: schools can debate every single position, no question. Again. The

904
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: Reese's Senior Bowl January five, down in Mobile. The week

905
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: starts really the twenty on Monday, and then we get

906
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: going with the practices on Tuesday, all which you can

907
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: see right here on NFL Network. All right, we'll check

908
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: it out here. Really fun five. We actually had six

909
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: utah Utes accept an invitation to the Senior Bowl. Unfortunately,

910
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: Julian Blackman will not play a Senior Bowl week due

911
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: to an injury suffered in the pact Wald Championship game.

912
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: But what a year for the utah Utes. And it's

913
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: our play as you're now to welcome in the third

914
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: longest tenured head coach at the same school in FBS,

915
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: the second best bowl winning percentage in NT double a history,

916
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: preparing his youths for an Alamo Bowl appearance against Texas.

917
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: Kyle Winningham is here with us, head coach of the

918
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: utah You thanks for joining us, Coach, you appreciate you

919
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: having me on. So you had six guys get invitations

920
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: here to the Senior Bowl. Five guys wanted up playing

921
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl week. What does it mean for your program

922
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: to be that well represented at this prestigious All Star Game, Well,

923
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: that's great. And uh, you know, typically you know, if

924
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: you get invited the Senior Bowl means you've got a

925
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: great chance to get drafted, so that that goes hand

926
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: in hand with that. Um, you know, we've got a

927
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: special group of seniors. They've they've really, uh done so

928
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: much for this program. And and I could see this

929
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: year coming a couple of years back, you know, as

930
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: you project your rosters forward, we thought that this season

931
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: could be pretty special because of this senior group, and

932
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: that's proved to be the case. Coach, one of your

933
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: special players has been your running back Zack Moss. What

934
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: makes him such a talented, in vital contributor contributed to

935
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: you approgram. Well, he's the whole package. He's got size,

936
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: He's two hund twenty pounds, he's got quickness, strength, he's

937
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: got the great vision. He's he's able to run outside,

938
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: he's got great speed to get around the edge, picks

939
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: up blitz is, catches the ball out of the backfield,

940
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: you name it, he does it. He's a complete back.

941
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: Three straight one thousand yard plus seasons. He's broken virtually

942
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: every rushing record here at Utah, and he's in line

943
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: to break a couple more in the in the bowl

944
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: game if he has the type of game I hope

945
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: he does. Coach talk about Lecky Foe too a little

946
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: bit um. You know, you put the guy on tape

947
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: really unusual tools. He's such a big man. He's nimbly

948
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: makes place down the line of scrimmage. What did you

949
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: guys see when you were recruiting him out of high school?

950
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: I just I'm just curious what that looked like, you know,

951
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: on a high school football field. Yeah, he was pretty impressive,

952
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: but very raw. He had actually been a tremendous rugby player.

953
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of ability of the ruggory field.

954
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: But when we recruited him, he's only about two hund

955
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: sixty two or seventy pounds, and uh, we knew that

956
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: he was going to get a lot bigger and projected

957
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: him to to be a defensive tackle. And he's just done.

958
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: He's done exactly that. He's about three pounds now thirty

959
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: five and light on his feet. Like you said, he No. One, No.

960
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: Three forty pound match should move like it's incredible, and

961
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: his ceiling is way up there. He hasn't even ben

962
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: to scratch the service. He did not have a lot

963
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: of football experience in high school. Was more rugby than

964
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: than football. He is a freak coach. You continue to

965
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: pump out guys along the line of scrimmage, offensive lineman,

966
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: defensive lineman Bradley and I is fun for me to

967
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: watch just because how good he is with his hands.

968
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: When you got him from where he started to where

969
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: he is now, what have you seen the most improvement

970
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: from him? Well, his high school tape was very good.

971
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: It really excited us that his motor how he uh

972
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: had natural use of hands, great get off, played with separation.

973
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: But he was only about two hundred fifteen pounds, but

974
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: had the frame. I had played college ball with his

975
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: dad and his dad were teammates in college and his

976
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: dad was a tremendous player. And in about two seventies

977
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: so we knew brad he was gonna get a lot

978
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: bigger and right with he got a campus. He was

979
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: exactly what we hoped he would be and just kept

980
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: getting better from there and he now was about two

981
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: n sixty pounds to fifty five has the sack record

982
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,959
Speaker 1: here in Utah. And has been just a tremendous player

983
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: for US. Coach Andy Scout it has been through Utah

984
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: understands that you guys have some of the toughest, most

985
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: physical defensive backs in the country. You got another coming

986
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: up in Tod Burgess. Talked to him a little bit

987
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, Terrell, great teammate, completely unselfish. Kid, wasn't

988
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: a full time starter until this year. He's been a

989
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: phenomen on special teams for the first three years. He

990
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: got spot playing time, uh you know, in the secondary

991
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: his sophomore in junior year and transitioned into a starter

992
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: this year and has absolutely made the most of that opportunity.

993
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: He's been rock solid for US all season long. Uh

994
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: So consistent, so intelligent, and he's a playmaker. Seems to

995
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: always be around the football. Coach, you talk about the

996
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: leap that Burgess made as a part time player last year,

997
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: he had another one. Francis Bernard, you know that chair

998
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: playing behind Chase Hansen and Cody Barton. To me, you know,

999
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: looking at this guy over summer, he really wasn't on

1000
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: our radar for the game. You know, he was to me,

1001
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: one of the most improved players in the country. Can

1002
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: you explain, like what what you attribute that jump to

1003
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: for Francis Bernard this year. Well, first of all, he

1004
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: was a very good player last year for us. He

1005
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: just happened, as you mentioned, to be behind Chase and Cody,

1006
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: who were both in the NFL. Cody is with the

1007
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: Seahawks and and Chase is getting himself rehab to be

1008
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: with the Saints. He's with the Saints now and they

1009
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: gave him the year to dedicated to getting himself back

1010
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: to good health. But sitting behind those guys was you

1011
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: know something that you know, he hadn't really no opportunity

1012
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: because those guys are so productive and so good. But

1013
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: we knew that we had a guy in Francis waiting

1014
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: in the wings. When he did get his opportunity, was

1015
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: going to be a heck of the player. And he

1016
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: has been as productive as he could have possibly been

1017
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: this year, team leader. He's only been with us those

1018
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: two years he was that he was a transfer and

1019
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: so he wasn't with us other than his junior and

1020
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: senior year. And what a great kid, and we're related

1021
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: that he's in our program. Coach one more, I know

1022
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: Julian Blackman is hurt, but when you when you evaluate

1023
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: him as a player, You go back remember watching Marcus

1024
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: Williams coming through that program. How would you compare those

1025
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: two guys as players? Very similar, very similar. Julian has

1026
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: corner experience. He was a corner of the first three

1027
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: years for US, and we felt, you know, after his

1028
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: junior year, that that his highest ceiling and and uh,

1029
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, his longevity was going to be at the

1030
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: safety spot. If he wanted to play at the next level,

1031
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: that was going to be his best opportunity. He transitioned

1032
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: to that position seamlessly. Uh, he had. He's got terrific

1033
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: ball skills. He's a he's just a great athlete, great

1034
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: basketball player. Could probably be a wide receiver if that's

1035
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: where you wanted to put him, But we felt that

1036
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: ultimately his best spot was going to be safety. Great instincts,

1037
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: great angles to the football, and great tackling. You know,

1038
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: he's a deadly tacker. He'll come to balance and wrap

1039
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: up and and misses a very few tackles. Coaches a

1040
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight winner of the Bear Bryant Award,

1041
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 1: What does it mean you to be nominated once again

1042
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: this year for your accomplishments with this team. Well, it's

1043
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: a great honor, but really to me Coach of the

1044
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: Year awards or more Team of the Year awards, and

1045
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, you don't get those Coach of the Year

1046
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: nominations or awards without having great players and a great team.

1047
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: And and so that's really a credit and attribute to

1048
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: to our football team and coach. Obviously, you've established a

1049
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: great winning culture there at Utah from what you do.

1050
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: And now for you, for your guys that are going

1051
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: down to Mobile, what kind of opportunity is this and

1052
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: how do you feel like they will represent themselves and

1053
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: their first opportunity getting uh to kind of be immersed

1054
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: in some NFL coaching as we'll have the NFL coaching

1055
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: staffs on hand here to run the show at the

1056
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Yeah. Historically our guys do very well down there.

1057
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: We have a very structured discipline program here. Uh, great

1058
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: work ethic in this program, accountability and that translates real

1059
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: well to the next level. And and uh, we hear

1060
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: a lot of good reports about our guys when they

1061
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: get to the next level as far as the practice habits, uh,

1062
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: their film study and that type of thing. And so

1063
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: traditionally they will represent us the right way, and I

1064
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: don't believe this group will be any different. Coach. Last

1065
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: thing before you go, how much snow is on the

1066
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: ground there right now? How is this season? Are we

1067
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: ready to roll? Absolutely? Ski season. I'll be up there

1068
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: tomorrow or not tomorrow but Saturday. And uh, we don't

1069
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: have any in the valley here, but up with up

1070
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: at the resort, we got about eight. Very how about it?

1071
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: Here we go that fitting in a little ski time

1072
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: as you get ready for the v Ala Mobile against Texas. Coach,

1073
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: we wish you all the best things so much for

1074
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: taking some time to join us here today. Appreciate you

1075
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: having me. Thank you guys. Okay, and so I mentioned

1076
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: the NFL coaching staffs. Obviously that will run the North

1077
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: and South squads for you at the Senior Bowl. And

1078
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: then one of the great things about it Senior Bowl

1079
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: Week on NFL networkers, if we get to have some

1080
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: of those coaches miked up during the week. I mean,

1081
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: I know you guys love that up in the boot,

1082
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: so excited to see that. And obviously you'll let us

1083
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: know as soon as you know which which staff. So

1084
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna see down there. Man, it's gonna be gonna

1085
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: be some fun. And can I just say one thing

1086
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: real quick, Kyle Whittingham was my pick. If you took

1087
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: every n C A coach and you put him in

1088
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: a battle Royale, Kyle Whittingham's that thing and not even close.

1089
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you better believe I might take it that

1090
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: you took my pick because I was taking That's another show.

1091
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: That's a good show. Are gonna have a Royal Ulres

1092
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: gonna happen? Ground and power for MEDEO. I don't know.

1093
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: Isn't that great? I mean you get the inside you

1094
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: Jim with the with the coaches are are teaching the players.

1095
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: It's great stuff. And you guys know, from a scouting

1096
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: perspective or assistant coaches that are at the game, you

1097
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: really tuned into how the players respond to take in

1098
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: that coaching. You know, it's one it's entertaining to listen

1099
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: to the coaches do their thing, but you're really zeroed

1100
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: and on, okay, when he when this kid gets chewed out,

1101
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: what does the next rep look like? Right? Can he

1102
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: get And that's that's really where Daniel Jones to me

1103
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: was impressive because the first day he was not good

1104
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: right out of the gate and Jon Gruden was on

1105
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: him all week and he just got better and better

1106
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: and he didn't let it affect him. So all those

1107
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: little things that are happening on the field, you know,

1108
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: the NFL takes takes us all that stuff. It's great.

1109
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: And all those guys that played for John Gordon certainly

1110
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: had plenty of opportunities to display, uh, that that kind

1111
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: of bounce back mentality, and they have. They have eight

1112
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: Senior bowlers from last year's Senior Bowl on the Raiders

1113
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 1: this year, almost all of them playing really well, that's true,

1114
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: that's true. Raiders in forty niners as your coaching staffs

1115
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: last year. Okay, let's get to the linebackers that we're

1116
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: gonna see down to the Senior Bowl in Mobile. Excited

1117
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: to watch. Zack Bond from Wisconsin. Here's the only one

1118
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: of your app state guys with a Keem Davis Gaither.

1119
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: We've got Molle Harrison coming from Ohio State, Jordan Brooks

1120
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: from Texas Tech as well. Jim, what jumps out to

1121
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: you about this group? Really versatile group, a lot of

1122
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: different skill sets in this group. Um, you're looking at

1123
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: that group right there. Zack Bond, really impressive player, just

1124
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: got that commitment right after the Big Ten championship game,

1125
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: so really excited about that. Um. Yeah, just the versatility,

1126
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of guys we're going to

1127
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: have it these days at that group, and we're really

1128
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: emphasizing guys that can run and play on third down

1129
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: and play on fourth time and gone are of the

1130
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: days where you're just a two downline backer anymore. Speed

1131
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: is the one thing that jumped out at that list

1132
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: to me. Kamal Martin was such a player this year

1133
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: for Minnesota, big reason why they had the success that

1134
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: they did. But let's talk a little bit more about

1135
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: Zach bond DJ. What did you see from him on tape? Well?

1136
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: As an edge rusher, he can get home and win

1137
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways. You talk about somebody's

1138
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: not the biggest guy in the world. That's gonna be

1139
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 1: interesting to see what he weighs at the weigh ends,

1140
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: but somebody plays around that to forty mark and you

1141
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: can win with speed off the edge. Just got a

1142
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 1: nice little inside spin move. The first game I watched

1143
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: was Ohio State in the conference championship game, had a sack,

1144
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: just ran over the back in that game. Was a

1145
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: very good football player for a sack there. They use

1146
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: him a little bit dropping and coverage to show off

1147
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: some of that athleticism. So this would be a big

1148
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: week for him one on ones tackles. I don't think

1149
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna enjoy their time there with Mr Vong. That's awesome, Bucky.

1150
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: Let's get another line back here here in Troy Die.

1151
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: Troy Die is a Swiss Army knife. He's a guy

1152
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: that can really check the boxes in a lot of

1153
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: different areas. He can play your conventional inside linebacker, he

1154
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: can come off the edge and blitz. He's productive and disruptive,

1155
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: does a great job of doing everything. And it goes

1156
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: back to a conversation that we had it picked to

1157
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: immediate media day with Maria Kristo Boy. He talked about

1158
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: the one defender that he believes can have an outstanding

1159
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: career in the pros. He talked about Troy Da because

1160
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: of his versatility, his work ethic, and his ability to

1161
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: really step up and play well on a big stage.

1162
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: I expect him to stay ridiculous. Is that number, by

1163
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: the way, three eighty two tackles just don't get a

1164
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: lot of those like you don't see guys who are

1165
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: productive in thirteen sacks from the Yeah, just the old

1166
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: third team. Let's talk. We talked about Ashton Davis is

1167
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: one of the best players in the Cal secondary on

1168
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: their second level. Uh, if you're talking about a guy

1169
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: in Evan Weaver, I mean what you see from him. Yeah.

1170
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: We we do a Senior Bowl Senior of the Week award.

1171
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: We almost could have given it. Devn Weaver almost every week,

1172
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: I think. I think he had three games over twenty tackles,

1173
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: led the country and tackles this year. Talked about Francis

1174
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: Bernard with coach Whittingham being one of the most improved

1175
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: players in the country. Evan Weaver is too. You know,

1176
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how much weight Evan lost, but he

1177
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: dropped a bunch of weight in the offseason and it

1178
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: showed up on tape. This kid's instincts are off the charts.

1179
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: His game against Washington was as good a linebacker tape

1180
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: because I've seen in a lot of years. He flies

1181
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: around the ball. He's relentless um and because of the

1182
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: lost weight and the added mobility, he can play on

1183
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: third down Now. He's really instinctive in his own So

1184
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: you know that Cal defense was fun to watch and

1185
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: and he was the centerpiece of It's gotta switch up

1186
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: his number for the All Star Game, though you can't

1187
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: let him, you know, I think I think he came

1188
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: in at eighty nine. We had called all the players.

1189
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: You got to get all the numbers to Nike, and

1190
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: I think he's stuck with eighty. Is fantastic, That's great.

1191
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 1: There any other linebackers that you're targeting for the gamers

1192
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: the roster set at that position. We're we're targeting a

1193
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: couple juniors. And one I can talk about right now

1194
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: because Clemson was nice enough to have me up on

1195
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: campus and recruita a little bit was Isaiah Simmons. They

1196
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: do it all linebacker from Clemson. You know, we're talking

1197
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: about hybrid defenders and how that's kind of the invoked

1198
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: thing right now, guys that can cover and do a

1199
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: lot of things you put on the Clemson tape. He's

1200
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: all over the place. He's hard. He's really hard guy

1201
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 1: to scout because he's lining up in a different alignment

1202
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: all the time. But yeah, I think that we're we're

1203
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: still going after him. Our week would be big for him,

1204
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: so teams can figure him out becau as he can

1205
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: do so many things. It's almost like his greatest strength

1206
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: works against him. I know when I was with the

1207
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: Seahawks a couple of years ago, we did that with

1208
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: Derwin James. You know, the dB coach song is one thing.

1209
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: The linebackers coach sam is something else. So a week

1210
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: in Mobile, I really think that the league could figure

1211
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: out Isaiah. They know he's a great player, but now

1212
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: how do we use them talking about a super athlete.

1213
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: Track background plays a big part of his success as

1214
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: a high school player is one of the things that

1215
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: we'll see probably on display if he shows up in

1216
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: Mobile excited to watch those linebackers compete down in Mobile

1217
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: against Senior Bowl January. We can't get out of this

1218
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: show without getting to the specialist, right. Uh, Let's show

1219
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: you the specialist kickers and punters and long snappers that

1220
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,479
Speaker 1: will be heading to the Senior Bowl. Get Tyler Bass

1221
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: from Georgia Southern and you know Rodrigo Blanket schef. Uh.

1222
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: It's a nice get to get the Georgia kicker down

1223
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: to Mobile. But let's not leave out our long snappers,

1224
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: Blake Ferguson and Stephen Wortel. I mean Dan Godsil from

1225
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: Indiana was the Star of the Week mobile last year

1226
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: as a long snapper. UM, and so those are the

1227
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: long snappers. Let's not leave him out right. Those are

1228
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: important positions that teams need to get a look at, right.

1229
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: I gotta love those guys there there they I'll tell

1230
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: you what. The following on on Twitter from the long

1231
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: snapping community that amazing. If if we post anything about

1232
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: a long snapper, it's it's fire. I'm often asked if

1233
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: I miss anything from scouting. I've never said scouting long snappers.

1234
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: I've never you know what. Let's get some final thoughts

1235
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: here as we wrap up the show here, DJ, any

1236
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: final thoughts as we get set for Senior Week. I

1237
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: cannot wait. I love the group that you've assembled here,

1238
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: Jim and the wide receiver dB one on ones are

1239
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: going to be fantastic, and old line D line one

1240
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 1: are gonna be great. It's gonna be a great week.

1241
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: We heard from Will Hernandez talking about what it meant

1242
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: to him to playing the Senior Bowl. That was musty

1243
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: TV when he was so nasty. A final thought from

1244
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: you about the running backs. I want to see the

1245
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: running backs. We talked about the way the game has

1246
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: changed where running backs have to do more than just

1247
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: run it. They've gotta be able to catch it and

1248
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: also pass protect. The Senior Bowl provides an opportunity to

1249
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: see those guys and pass protection and Jim, I mean,

1250
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: let's I mean, what's your anxiety level getting ready here?

1251
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: I mean we're about thirty days away from kicking off

1252
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: the week down in Mobile. Tell us what's going on

1253
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: here in the meantime, Yeah, the anxiety level. Let's get

1254
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: through these ball games with my fingers. Cars hurt that

1255
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: we had no injuries. Nobody get hurt. But I do

1256
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: want I want to thank everyone here for for having

1257
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: me on moved sticks. This is a great, great form

1258
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: for us to unveil this thing. It's a step forward

1259
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 1: for our game. You guys have such a great platform,

1260
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 1: so thank you for doing it. We're excited about the week.

1261
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: You know, we were trying to make this more of

1262
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: a national event. Being in Nashville for the Draft last

1263
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: year really opened my eyes to how big this whole

1264
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: process is becoming. So we have the Senior Bowl Summit

1265
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: on Thursday. It's gonna be you guys were part of

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Speaker 1: that last year. Our first ever Gary v is gonna

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Speaker 1: keynote that Friday night, we're having a Marty Gras parade

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Speaker 1: because Mobile is the home of Marty Gras. So the

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Speaker 1: players are going to be in their in their school

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Speaker 1: issue jersey so people know who they are. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: be chucking autograph footballs, and we're announcing a big concert

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, which with a great act. We're expecting ten

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Speaker 1: of fifteen thousand people downtown Mobile for that event. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great of it. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a great week. Absolutely, where's the fast forward? But I

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Speaker 1: want to get the Mobile. Let's okay, let's go. I

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Speaker 1: mean we're getting We're getting close here, talking about thirty

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Speaker 1: two days until we kick off Senior Bowl week. So

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Speaker 1: thanks everybody so much for watching the special edition of

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Speaker 1: the Moved the Sticks podcasts, which will be down in

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Speaker 1: Mobile as well as we are throughout the week with

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Speaker 1: special editions, all kinds of great interviews that we get

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Speaker 1: terrific content down in Mobile again. Uh, practice recap shows

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Speaker 1: January twenty one through eight pm Eastern Time, and then

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Speaker 1: we get the Senior Bowl live to thirty Eastern time

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Speaker 1: January all right here on NFL Network, your home for

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Speaker 1: the Reese's Senior Bowl are play Our thanks to Jim Naggy,

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Speaker 1: the executive director of the recent Senior Bowl, for joining

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Speaker 1: us here uh and thanks to all of you for

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Speaker 1: watching here. Reminder tell your friends you can go ahead

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Speaker 1: and download this episode as well as we're finishing up

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Speaker 1: here wherever you normally get your moved the Sticks audio

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Speaker 1: podcast content. So thanks again for being with us and

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