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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast, an NFL podcast for

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Speaker 1: the players, by the players. Here is your host, four

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Speaker 1: team year NFL veteran and Hall of Famer A Nius Williams. Hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast. I am A

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Speaker 1: Nius Williams. Over the last few years we've talked with

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Speaker 1: players and legends about at a lot of different careers

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Speaker 1: and callings. Today, during a very challenging time, we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about something that's very personal or near to

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Speaker 1: my heart, and that spirituality and faith. We're joined by

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Speaker 1: current NFL quarterback who also shares that calling. Many of us,

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Speaker 1: regardless of our personal religions, are relying on faith to

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Speaker 1: help us through this time. So today we're talking about

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Speaker 1: how we're using our faith in God, in humanity, and

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Speaker 1: Today is Las Vegas. I did say Las Vegas. Come

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Speaker 1: and say that five time? The Las Vegas Raiders quarterback

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr, who also founded the Altar Conference, can't wait

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Speaker 1: to ask some questions about that which promotes live events

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Speaker 1: to promote the Word of the Lord. Welcome Derek, Thank you, guys,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. For having me. I really appreciate it. Well.

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Speaker 1: The first thing, Derek, what's it like coming from a

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Speaker 1: football family. Oh, you know, growing up, you know, we

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Speaker 1: had basketball's, baseball's, football's. We had this create in our

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Speaker 1: And so we would find random tennis balls at the

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Speaker 1: bottom of it. And we just grew up just playing sports. Know,

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Speaker 1: that was a way for you know, us to stay

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Speaker 1: I have two brothers and so who are both older

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Speaker 1: tough and things like that. And uh, you know, we

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Speaker 1: realize how difficult the journey was and all those things.

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Speaker 1: But when I was a kid, it seemed so easy

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Speaker 1: So football has always been a part of our family.

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Speaker 1: I knew we had a kindred spirit, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: the world, and so we're the tough ones, right that's

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Speaker 1: exactly have to be. So Garry talked to me about

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Speaker 1: your involvement with the Altar conference. Yeah, so you know,

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Speaker 1: this process. It's one thing to play football in front

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Speaker 1: get such joy doing those things. Derek, you've mentioned a

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Speaker 1: number of times mentorship, but you're being mentor. And then

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Speaker 1: Even with my own eyes, I don't see it. I

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Speaker 1: we've taken it as a team. Derek. We've gotten started

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