1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: This is the best of Newtsworld. Coming up my interview 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: with Governor Christinom On this episode of Newts World. We're 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: going to have a chance to chat with I think 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: one of the rising stars in the entire country and 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: somebody who you're going to hear a lot more from 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: over the next few years. I first noticed her when 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: she was a freshman in Congress, and every time I've 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: watched her career, I've just been really impressed with how smart, 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: how hard working, how eager to learn. I think how 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: courageous she's been. And that is Governor Christinoam of South Dakota. 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: Her handling of the COVID nineteen pandemic made her widely known. 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: But the truth is she's been in politics for a 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: good while. She's smart, she's savvy, and I think you're 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: going to find that you both like her and that 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: you look forward to following her as she leads on 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: a variety of things. She combines multiple roles. She's a 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: wife of the lifelong rancher, farmer, and small business owner. 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: In twenty ten, after serving in the South Dakota Legislature 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: for several years, she was elected to serve as South 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: Dakota's lone member of the US House during her time 21 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: in Congress. In addition to many other successes, Governor nom 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: helped pass the Tax Cut and Jobs Act, which put 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: twenty four hundred dollars back in the pockets of the 24 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: average South Dakota family. In twenty eighteen. She had a 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: platform of protecting South Dakotas against tax increases, at government growth, 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: federal intrusion, and government secrecy, and on that platform, she 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: was elected as South Dakota's first ever female governor. In 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: addition to her amazing political achievements, she often says that 29 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: her greatest accomplishment is raising her three children along with 30 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: her husband, Brian. So I'm pleased to welcome my guest 31 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: Governor Christinell. 32 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: Thank you Newt. I appreciate you having me with you today, 33 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: and we'll enjoy talking about this country and what's special 34 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: about it and a little bit of what I think 35 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: we need to do in America to make sure that 36 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: it is protected for our kids and our grandkids. 37 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: We know I mentioned earlier that Lisa and I saw 38 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: you down at mar Largo. We listened to your talk 39 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: and we thought, you know, it was really very, very impressive. 40 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: And then recently you and doctor Ben Carson co authored 41 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: I think a very profound and important column which we're 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: going to post on our show page so people can 43 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: read it and see just how deeply committed you are 44 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: to America and to the American system. But before we 45 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: get into politics and government, if you don't mind, tell 46 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: me a little bit. You grew up on a ran 47 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: sharp that you grew up on a farm as an Easterner, 48 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: I will confess I'm not sure the difference. 49 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: Well, I actually I grew up on kind of both. 50 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: I live in South Dakota and always have. Farms are 51 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: where you generally grow crops, and ranches are where you 52 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: raise cattle, horses, and livestock. So we did both of 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: those growing up, and I would say from the time 54 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: I was five or six years old, I knew that 55 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: that was the lifestyle I always wanted to have. I 56 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: wanted to grow up and farm and ranch with my dad. 57 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: He was really my best friend. So when I got 58 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: out of high school went to college, you know, that 59 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: was my goal was to come back to the operation 60 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: and work alongside him and our family business that had 61 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: been in our family for generations. What changed everything was 62 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: when I was going to college. My dad was killed 63 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: in an accident on our farm. It was March tenth, 64 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: and it was one of those years that we had 65 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: fluctuating temperatures. He went into a grain bend to empty 66 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: it out and fell through the crust of mold on 67 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: the top and corn buried him. So it was tragic 68 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: for us, and for me in particular. I ended up 69 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: quitting college and coming back and taking over the operation, 70 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: which was one of the larger farming operations in the 71 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: state of South Dakota at the time. We were farming 72 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: about ten thousand acres the day he was killed, he 73 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: had rented another twenty five hundred acres. He was a 74 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: go getter. We had a large cow caf operation, raised 75 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 2: quarter horses too, and it was a lot for a 76 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: twenty two year old to take over running all those 77 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: different businesses and having your dad gone. He was forty 78 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: nine years old at the time, and it was a 79 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: little overwhelming, but we got with death taxes. Several months later, 80 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 2: I got a bill in the mail from the IRS 81 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: that said we owed death taxes, and I could not 82 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: believe that the federal government had a law that when 83 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: a family had a tragedy that all of a sudden, 84 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: we owed the federal government hundreds and hundreds and hundreds 85 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars. And like most small businesses or 86 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: farms and ranches at the time, we had land and 87 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: machinery and cattle, but we didn't have any money in 88 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: the bank, and I could not figure out how he 89 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: was going to pay those taxes. So people ask how 90 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: I got involved in government and politics. It was because 91 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: of that I decided that we needed more normal, everyday 92 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: people running businesses to show up and be involved in 93 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: our policy to really make it work for them to 94 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: be successful. 95 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: Even in your busy career now as governor, are you 96 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: still running the farm? 97 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: No. When I got elected to Congress, I got bought 98 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: out of the operation. What happened was several years after 99 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: my dad passed away, my older brother moved home from Oklahoma, 100 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: my sister moved home from Georgia. My younger brother was 101 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: in high school when my dad was killed, and so 102 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: he had graduated, and then we farmed and ranched as 103 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: a partnership for many, many years. I was the general manager, 104 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: but our four families worked there together, side by side 105 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: every single day. So when I got elected to Congress, 106 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: I'm the very first person in my family to ever 107 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: get involved in politics. We just didn't really do that, 108 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: and when I got elected it was very strange. But 109 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: I also decided that if I wasn't going to be 110 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: on the operation every day, that I wouldn't be involved 111 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: in the business anymore. So I still have equity and land, 112 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: but my brothers bought me out of the actual operating 113 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: business of the farming operation because I was obviously spending 114 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: my time working on policy in DC. But I still 115 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: live on one of the ranches with my husband when 116 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: we're not in peer with the state government, and it's 117 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: still a huge part of our way of life. 118 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: So do you think that your children will grow up 119 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: wanting to live on a farm or a ranch. 120 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: Oh, definitely. My oldest daughter is an appraiser. She owns 121 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: her own company. But definitely we're still raising horses. We 122 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: have buffalo because we still live on the ranch, we 123 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: have some livestock. It's not very big right now, but 124 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: my son in law grew up on a large cattle 125 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: operation and that's where our heart is. My other two 126 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: children will come back to South Dakota too. It's just 127 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: a part of our way of life. And of course 128 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: my brothers, still being involved in farming, were incredibly involved 129 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: with them on a day to day basis, keeping that 130 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: operation going and just helping them where we can. 131 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: I have to ask a campras, is how many buffalo 132 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: are you running? 133 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Oh, we only have a handful right now. In fact, 134 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: I just bought them this year because I thought it'd 135 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: be fun. My husband was surprised when. 136 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: I told him that evening that you're not going to 137 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: believe what I did today. But I bought a few 138 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: buffalo and I wanted to start building our buffalo herd. 139 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: When I was a kid, my dad had a buffalo 140 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: herd and I loved it. And so in South Dakota 141 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: we have Custer State Park, which is the most beautiful 142 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: state park, I believe in the country, and we have 143 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: one of the original bison herds in the nation that 144 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: helped bring buffalo back from extinction. 145 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: And so that's where I bought those buffalo from, was 146 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: from the annual auction. 147 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: The state park has enough buffalo there and a lot 148 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: of movies made there at the park in order to 149 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: have that sense of what a real buffalo herd looks like. 150 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we have a roundup every fall. That is 151 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: the Governor's Buffalo Roundup, and we bring them into the corrals. 152 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: We have about twenty thousand people that come and watch 153 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: and participate in the roundup, and then we have an 154 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: auction that we sell some breeding stock from and then 155 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: that gives us the revenue we need to maintain the 156 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: herd each year. So it's very much a Western wivelife from. 157 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: A standpoint of the rancher. Are buffalo different to run 158 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: than cattle? Are? 159 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:42,359 Speaker 2: Incredibly Yeah. You will never take the wildness in aggressiveness 160 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: out of buffalo. They are much more unpredictable. They run 161 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: faster than horses, so you have to have much more 162 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: secure fencing and equipment to work with them, and you 163 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: definitely do not get up close and friendly with your buffalo. 164 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: There's a wonderful short video at Yellowstone at the visitors 165 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: center where they say you have to remember that these 166 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: are wild animals, and they show this tourist getting tossed 167 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: by the buffalo and they just say, we keep telling 168 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: people don't do this. 169 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 2: Yes, well, and I think people a lot of times 170 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: think that they can go up and approach them because 171 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: they look so peaceful, but they're extremely unpredictable animals, even 172 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: if they're on a ranch and people would consider them 173 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: a part of their business operation. You will never get 174 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: a buffalo to be a pet of yours because they 175 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: just have a natural Western wildness to them that is inbread. 176 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: And I think in a way, if you come out 177 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: of a life where you're dealing with the natural world, 178 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: it teaches you some core lessons about reality that all 179 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: too often city dwellers don't quite get. You just made 180 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: a good point, which is you are kidding yourself if 181 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: you think you're about to have a pet buffalo in 182 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: the consequence can be a disaster. 183 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. And for me, my kids and grandkids will always 184 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: have livestock. They just will because of what it teaches them. 185 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: They learned to be responsible for another living being. They 186 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: learned that they have chores and work to do every 187 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: single day. It also teaches them to be problem solvers. 188 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: Some of our best memories as kids was rounding up cattle, 189 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: working them, vaccinating them, training horses, trying to get inside 190 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: their head, figure out what they are thinking and how 191 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: we can get them to work with us and be 192 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: a partnership. It's very much a way that I think 193 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: I learned how to approach problems in life and to 194 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: work with individuals. Is because of what I learned from 195 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: growing up on a ranch and working with animals and 196 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: livestock and being responsible. I never got to take a 197 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: day off because they always needed to be fed and 198 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: cared for and it was my responsibility. 199 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: So have you been able to take those kind of 200 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: lessons and bring them into public service. 201 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: I have. Although it's interesting, I feel like I spent 202 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: a lot of time talking about raising kids too, just 203 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: because one of the best gifts that my parents ever 204 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: gave me was giving me impossible things to do when 205 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: we were kids. My dad never taught me to drive 206 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: a semi. He just when I was twelve years old, 207 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 2: got it going down the road and jumped out the 208 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: door and said take it home and make your corners wide. 209 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: You know, we drove ourselves to school when we were 210 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: eight nine years old and it was several miles away. 211 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: We had to work with cattle from the time we were young, 212 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: and it was you know, you go feed them, take 213 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: care of those calves, and do it and figure it out. 214 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: And it wasn't an option to come back to dad 215 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: and say that you failed. He gave you a job, 216 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: he expected you to finish it, and you had to 217 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: figure it out. And I think that is one of 218 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: the best gifts that they ever gave us as children, 219 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: was giving us those impossible things to do because it 220 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: caused us to figure out a way to get it done, 221 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: solved the problem. But then also when we did accomplish it, 222 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: it gave me confidence. It taught me that I can 223 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 2: figure things out and that I can tackle things that 224 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: seem very, very difficult and have the confidence to really 225 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: take on even bigger challenges. So I do work a 226 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: lot of that into public service, and I think I 227 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: talk about it a lot, but we also implement it 228 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: and show it even with working with my employees that 229 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: we're not here to live in an instant gratification society. 230 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: We're here to determine what decisions we can make that 231 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: creates a stronger America, a stronger family, stronger people twenty 232 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: thirty years from now. So I would never want to 233 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: be guilty of making a decision it's beneficial for me 234 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: as much as I would want to focus on what 235 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: is the consequences of this decision twenty years from now? 236 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: Would you take it kind of a long view that 237 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: makes you different than most politicians. 238 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: It does, and I think that some people that have 239 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: been involved with me and my political life would say 240 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: that that's probably been to my political detriment. You know, 241 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: I took on some fights that probably were not going 242 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 2: to be the popular thing at that point in time, 243 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 2: but I thought it was important because of the consequences 244 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: of it. I was very reluctant to legalize hemp in 245 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: the state of South Dakota and argued against it for 246 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: quite some time because I can't enforce the difference between 247 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: hemp and marijuana, and I can't tell the difference out 248 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: there my drug dogs, can't my law enforcement officers, And 249 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: you know, we had that debate for a long period 250 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: of time and people would tell me, why is she 251 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: against this? But it was because of the consequences and 252 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: what it did to public safety and people that are 253 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: out there on the street dealing with it. So there's 254 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: just different things that I've tried to look at, not 255 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: just what politically works for today, but if we make 256 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: this decision, how do I deal with it five, ten, 257 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: fifteen years down the road, and what does it open 258 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 2: the door to. 259 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: Hi This is newt in my new book March the 260 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: Majority the real story of the Republican Revolution. I offer 261 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: strategies and insights for everyday citizens and for season politicians. 262 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: It's both a guide for political success and for winning 263 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: back the Majority. 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Order 271 00:14:54,160 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: it today at gingrishtree sixty dot com slash book now. 272 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: One of the things that you've done as huge long 273 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: term consequence is you got right in the middle of 274 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: the fight over the Keystone Excel pipeline and the decisions 275 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: of the Biden administration. Was that a big challenge or 276 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: was it just so obvious to you that there was 277 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: no alternative. 278 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: Well, it's a big challenge because it's a little controversial. 279 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: Here in South Dakota. I've got nine Native American tribes 280 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: that are not in favor of the pipeline. They believe 281 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: that it's not the right approach for moving our natural resources, 282 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: which every data point disagrees with that it is much 283 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: better policy on protecting the environment. It's safer to move 284 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: this oil through pipelines than it is over the roads 285 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: in rail like we do today. It's much safer for 286 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: our communities and people to move it through the pipeline 287 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: as well, and it's much more efficient and would give 288 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: us the stability that we need in the energy sector 289 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: our state is highly reliant on. But because there's some 290 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: division in the state of South Dakota over it, it 291 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: was a little bit risky too. And also I had 292 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: watched the fights that we'd had over the bill in 293 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: North Dakota. If you remember that newt the Dapple pipeline 294 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: that cost the state of South Dakota hundreds of millions 295 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: of dollars in North Dakota with law enforcement costs, and 296 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: what those protests did. When I first got elected as governor, 297 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: I brought forward two bills that would give us the 298 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: opportunity in the state to assess the pipeline company for 299 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: those costs and save our taxpayers the court costs, the 300 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: law enforcement costs and the safety costs that North Dakota 301 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: had to deal with. So even just me as soon 302 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: as I became governor bringing forward those two bills that 303 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: saved the state of South Dakota potentially hundreds of millions 304 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: of dollars by having the pipeline company pay those costs 305 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: if they were to build it through this state, which 306 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: Trans Canada supported. TC Energy supported my bills because they 307 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: recognized that they had a governor that would partner with 308 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 2: them to build a pipeline safely and make sure that 309 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: any violent protests that broke out would be adequately taken 310 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 2: care of. So I was in this fight for years, 311 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: even when I was in Congress, but then proactively trying 312 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: to protect taxpayers from any costs with building pipelines to 313 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: make sure that we had some certainty in our energy sector. 314 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: So, as I understand it, this is clearly not a 315 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: topic where I'm an expert. But the actual result if 316 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: you don't build the pipeline and you end up shipping 317 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: the oil by rail and by truck, is you actually 318 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: increase the risk of spills, and you raise the price, 319 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: and you actually increase total pollution. 320 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: That is correct, Yes, there's a much greater chance of spills. 321 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: There's a much greater chance of accidents than any of 322 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: these rail lines and roads go throughs, and we've had 323 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 2: incidences in the past where they've had accidents that have 324 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: been extremely dangerous for the people that live there. And 325 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: it costs much more, obviously, and it's a wear and 326 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: tear on our roads and bridges. So to put it 327 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: through the pipeline not only protected costs and made us 328 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: more efficient, it also protected our environment and it protected 329 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: the people that live here. What President Biden did on 330 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: day one by canceling those permits was the wrong decision 331 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 2: on every level, the wrong decision on policy, energy, environment, 332 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: and safety. 333 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: I'm curious, what do you think motivates people to be 334 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: in favor of a policy. I mean, I've always thought 335 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: that some of the people who opposed the pipeline actually 336 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: had interest to trucks in railroads. 337 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: That's possible, though they haven't been the vocal opponents for us. 338 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: It's our Native American tribes and they have opposed it 339 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: based on Mother Earth and protecting their land and water. 340 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: But all of the research and data around it show 341 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: that it obviously would be safer to have it in 342 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: the pipeline than it would, especially with the new technologies 343 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: that come out now with these pipelines and the way 344 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: that they're built. They're just incredibly advanced in how they 345 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 2: put in protection systems to stop skills almost immediately. But 346 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: beyond that, those that are posed, I think are those 347 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: that honestly are just opposed to the oil and gas industry. 348 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 2: They would be those on the left that say they're 349 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 2: for items and policies like the Green New Deal, and 350 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: that's just not workable for the average everyday family, especially 351 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: in a state like South Dakota, where it is incredibly 352 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: cold in the winter, it is incredibly hot in the summer, 353 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 2: and it is a long ways to drive anywhere, so 354 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: we are heavily energy dependent. And the reality for most 355 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: people here in South Dakota is that they need pipelines 356 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 2: like this to make their way of life something that 357 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: they can enjoy and keep more dollars in their pockets. 358 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: Are you being to say, yes, Selene, prices go up. 359 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: Yes, our gasoline crisis since President Biden's been in office 360 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: had gone up about thirty percent. 361 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: I just trot to column that this is sort of 362 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: the hidden Biden tax. When he tells you it's only 363 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: going to hit people about four hundred thousand dollars. You 364 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: got to go to your local gas station and watch 365 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: who's filling up their car, and in fact, his policies 366 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: are leading them to pay the hidden tax of inflation. 367 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: Well and for us too. We've got some big populated 368 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: areas of South Dakota, but much of our state it's 369 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: thirty miles to go to the grocery store. People drive 370 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: forty miles to go to work every day. So you know, 371 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: until there's a real option for those individuals, it is 372 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: just direct money that they have to spend just to 373 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: take care of their families. And those are the people 374 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: that aren't making a lot of money anyways, and it's 375 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: literally going to be a decision between whether to fill 376 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 2: their gas tank up or to be able to go 377 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 2: out to eat once a week, or buy their kids 378 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: those new shoes that they need to play basketball. That's 379 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 2: the decisions that are happening, and it's directly hurting those 380 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: middle class families, lower income families that are going to 381 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 2: struggle in that kind of an environment. 382 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: And when I was a child, my dad was a 383 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: stationed at Fort Riley, Kansas, and coming out of the 384 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: heavily populated East. The idea that somebody might go fifty 385 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: miles for a Friday night dinner. You know, it took 386 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: a little bit of adjusting. 387 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 2: Then that's right well, and we need to remember that 388 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: there's value to having us here. We grow your food. 389 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 2: We are the backbone of this country that gets up 390 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: every day and make sure that people have a beautiful 391 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: place to come visit, but also that they were putting 392 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 2: food on your table and building the manufacturing products that 393 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: show up on your store shelves. And that's what we 394 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: need in order for our country to be stable and 395 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: to have a stable economy is to have every single 396 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: part of it be producing and thriving. I tell folks 397 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: all the time that when you put all your eggs 398 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: in one basket in a couple of parts of the 399 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: country is when you get instability. And through the two 400 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: thousand and eight housing crisis and some of the recessions 401 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: that we've seen, it's been Middle America. It's been the 402 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: Midwest that has stabilized the national economy when so many 403 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: of the other areas were struggling. And it was because 404 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: of our conservative government and decision making that kept our 405 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: economy going better. Than it did in so many of 406 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: those other Blue states. 407 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: You know, one of the most interesting side stories that 408 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: has developed out of the Biden administration, where you were 409 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: right in the middle of it, and I think it 410 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: really drew tension to you, was this decision by the 411 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: National Park Service to block you from holding a July 412 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: fourth fireworks celebration at Mount Rushmore. Do you have any 413 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: idea what they're thinking is other than they're just nuts. 414 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 2: Well, I think they specifically blocked us from holding that 415 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 2: celebration to be punitive and to be political. You know, 416 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: we for years host fireworks at Mount Rushmore on July third, 417 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: the night before July fourth, so that when everybody woke 418 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: up on Independence Day on all their TV screens, on 419 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: all of their media outlets, they could see us celebrating 420 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 2: our founding fathers on that monument in South Dakota and 421 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: being proud of being American. We did that for many years, 422 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 2: but we lost those fireworks when President Obama came into office. 423 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 2: He took away our ability to host them. So one 424 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: of the things that I asked President Trump even before 425 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: I was sworn in as governor, was to help me 426 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: get back our fireworks celebration it was our opportunity to 427 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: showcase South Dakota, showcase Mount Rushmore, and to really be 428 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: patriots and celebrate independence. President Trump became extremely dedicated to 429 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: helping me do that and we did, and I think 430 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: most everybody in the country had an opportunity to see 431 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: part of that celebration. Last year. We had agreed to 432 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: do that celebration. We had signed memorandums of agreement to 433 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: continue hosting that celebration every single year. We went through 434 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: the environmental permitting processes. We had agreements with Forest Service, 435 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: National Park Service, Wildland Fire on a go no go 436 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: checklist to deal with potential fire hazards. We had local 437 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: leaders sign on for facilitating getting in and out, and 438 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: had gone through every single logistical negotiation and gotten that 439 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: done so these celebrations could continue to happen. But when 440 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 2: President Biden came into office and denied us our permits 441 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: that we were to be allocated according to that agreement, 442 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: there was no reason given. And I guess that's my 443 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: biggest problem is that if he would have cited environmental concerns, 444 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: if he would have cited fire dangers, you know, even 445 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: public health issues, which last year we hosted it during 446 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 2: the pandem and did not have an event that spread 447 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: the virus. We allowed people to come and to be 448 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: a part of it. So that was the thing that 449 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: is challenging for me is that President Biden took it 450 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: away with no reason other than, we believe, just to 451 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: be political and to not celebrate America. 452 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: I read yesterday that the Defense Department has refused to 453 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: issue a permit to Rolling Thunder, which is the annual 454 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend. People arrive on motorcycles and huge numbers 455 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: and really in celebration of our wounded veterans and as 456 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: a very very pro American thing. All of a sudden 457 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: I found out that they had blocked it from using 458 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: the Pentagon parking lot, which is empty on Memorial Day weekend. 459 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: And it just struck me that very parallel to what 460 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: you're experiencing, they go out of their way to avoid 461 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: celebrating America. 462 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: They do, and I had not heard that. That makes 463 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 2: me sad because our country needs to unify at this 464 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 2: point in time. We need an opportunity to come together 465 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: and be proud of our background, our history and talk 466 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: about it. It's through events like this that our kids 467 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: see it on TV. They hear about it in the news, 468 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: and then we have conversations that educate them on why 469 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 2: they're still free and why they have liberties that have 470 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: been defended and fought for and protected for so many years. 471 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: So that's what is the sad consequence of this is 472 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: that I'm obviously suing the Biden administration to get my 473 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: fireworks back. But what's interesting is President Biden was the 474 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: one himself who stood up on National TV and said 475 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: we could celebrate our freedom from this virus by Independence Day. 476 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: So he declared that himself that by the time we 477 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: get to July fourth, we should be celebrating our independence 478 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: from the virus. What better way than to do that 479 00:26:51,920 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 2: at Mount Rushmore, celebrating our America's independence and freedom and birthday. 480 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: So this whole notion of not celebrating America, the whole 481 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: effort by the left to rewrite American history, something which 482 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: you wrote an op editor on Fox News with Secretary 483 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: Ben Carson, and you signed the seventeen seventy six Pledge 484 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: to Save our Schools. Tell me you're thinking about all 485 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: this and how you hope will develop not just in 486 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: South Dakota but also around the country. 487 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of a longer story than probably what 488 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: we've seen over the last year developed. But when I 489 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 2: first was sworn in as governor, so almost three years ago, 490 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: I brought a bill to my legislature and asked them 491 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: to put more civics in history into our curriculum to 492 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: teach more of America's background. It was killed by Republicans. 493 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: My Republican legislature defeated that, saying it wasn't necessary, And 494 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: I started to realize that people didn't necessarily know how 495 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: important it was to focus teaching our children that background 496 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: and give them that kind of insight into our true 497 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: patriotic background. When I got into the COVID nineteen pandemic 498 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 2: and started to make decisions, it was very much based 499 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: on what authority I had as a governor and what 500 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: authority I didn't have as a governor. I took my 501 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: oath to the State Constitution, the US Constitution seriously. I 502 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 2: didn't just consult with my health professionals and researchers. I 503 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: also consulted with my general counsel and constitutional attorneys to 504 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: find out exactly what a governor's role is and what 505 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: a governor's role isn't. So I made my decisions based 506 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: off of that, and it was all based on that 507 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: foundation of a country, because I just believed that when 508 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: a governor oversteps their authority in a time of crisis, 509 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: or when a leader does that, that's really when you 510 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: break America. So you know, I made those decisions, but 511 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: we also watched the riots happen across the country last year. 512 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: We watched protests. We watched people give up their freedoms, 513 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: their freedom of assembly, they let the government tell them 514 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: they had to shelter in place. They lost their freedom 515 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: of religion, they let the government tell them they couldn't 516 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: go to church, They lost their freedom of speech by 517 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 2: what we saw happening with our social media giants that 518 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: control the narrative out there, and I realized I couldn't 519 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: just talk about the decisions that I was making in 520 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: South Dakota anymore, which were different than any other governor 521 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: in the country was making. That I needed to tell 522 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: people why I was making the decisions that I made. 523 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: So some of those press conferences that I held in 524 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: the middle of the pandemic, in the middle of the 525 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: summer last year were just about freedom and about our 526 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: constitution and educating people as to what the Constitution said 527 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: my role was, and why I was making the decisions 528 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: not to shut down our state, not to close any businesses, 529 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 2: not to even define what an essential business was, because I, 530 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: as a governor, didn't have the authority to tell you 531 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: your business wasn't essential. And that was something that as 532 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: I went on and on and on, I became more 533 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: and more alarmed as to how ignorant people really were 534 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: to the background in history that is the truth about America. 535 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 2: So that's why I was the first governor this week 536 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: in the country to sign on to the seventeen seventy 537 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: six Pledge that says, in our school systems, we need 538 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: an honest accounting for our history. We need our true 539 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: history to be taught, and that we have to push 540 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: back on critical race theory, on the sixteen nineteen project. 541 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: We need to point out how they are absolutely pushing 542 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: lies to our children about what America is about, and 543 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: that we need to make sure that that is a 544 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: priority for us, and that I'll continue to do that 545 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: because in this day and age, leaders can't just be 546 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: making decisions. They need to take on the responsibility of 547 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: really educating people as to what our true history is 548 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: and why it's still important today and into the future. 549 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: So I mean, I think this is really important. It 550 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: was interesting in Ronald Reagan's farewell address, he said, after 551 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: going through the great things they had achieved, he said 552 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: the greatest failure was turning around the teaching of American history, 553 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: and that it worried him more than any other single 554 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: thing that they had failed to get done. So in 555 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: a sense, you have picked up the torch for something 556 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: that President Reagan felt was at the heart of what 557 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: threatened us as a country, because it literally is an 558 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: anti American movement to change things, and it changed things 559 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: in ways that I think very unacceptable to most people. 560 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: You may know that last Saturday in Texas, there was 561 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: a local community which had a vote on this topic, 562 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: and seventy one percent voted to elect a school board 563 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: that was committed to the same policies that you are. 564 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: And I thought it was very interesting that seventy one 565 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: percent means to be a pretty good vote, and I 566 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: think it shocked some of the people and the news 567 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: media to realize it. Maybe their view is not all 568 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: that popular out there in the country at large. Let 569 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: me give you a chance to explain the only thing 570 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: that people have said that I think has confused or 571 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: blurred what is otherwise so far an extraordinary performance by 572 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: you as governor, as congresswoman, and as an emerging, truly 573 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: national leader. And that's this whole issue about protecting women's sports, 574 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: because at best it seems kind of muddled with the 575 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: legislature passing something, and I think you vetoed it, but 576 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: then you issued and executive were I just want to 577 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: give you a minut or two to sort of explain 578 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: to the folks what the state of play was, what's happening, 579 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: And because as I listened to you the other night, 580 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: mar Lgo, I had a feeling like there's a different 581 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: story than the one the news media may have carried. 582 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right. I have always fought for only girls 583 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: to play in girls' sports. In fact, years ago, the 584 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: federal government came out to the state of South Dakota 585 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: and told the sport of rodeo that they could no 586 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: longer have girls events and boys events, that they had 587 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: to be open to everybody. And I was in Congress 588 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 2: at the time, and I went to war to protect 589 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: the girls events and the boys events and to push 590 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 2: back on the federal government. I remember during that time. 591 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: It was incredibly lonely because no other member of Congress 592 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: would help, none of my delegation, and not even the 593 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: governor at the time. But I partnered with the sport 594 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: of Rodeo to push back, and with Sunny Purdue's help 595 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 2: at USDA, was able to get them to reverse course 596 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: so that Rodeo could always continue the way that it 597 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: has and have girls events and boys events. So that's 598 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: one of the reasons nude I think. I was so 599 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: shocked by how this story got told in the national 600 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: media because I have a long history on this issue 601 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: and a very public fight with the federal government to 602 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: ensure we were protecting girls sports. But my legislature passed 603 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: me a bill during the legislative session that would have 604 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 2: ensured that in the K twelve system in collegiate system, 605 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: the girls only played girls sports. But it also had 606 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: a lot of other elements to it. It opened up 607 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: an opportunity for every child who played sports to sue 608 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: other children on that team if they didn't make it 609 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 2: on the team. It allowed them to sue the school 610 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 2: district if they were not chosen to be a part 611 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: of the team, and it allowed them to sue for 612 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: emotional damages with no cap and then the enforcement actions 613 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 2: were extremely flawed. And so what I asked my legislature 614 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: to do was to change it. I did not veto 615 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 2: the bill. What I did is I sent it to 616 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 2: the legislature and said, fix this bill and I will 617 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: sign it. Unfortunately, my legislature did not accept the changes 618 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: and the bill died. The story that got told in 619 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: the national media it was that I vetoed it, which 620 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: absolutely wasn't true. So what I did after the legislature 621 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 2: did not accept the changes was I put two executive 622 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: orders in place that said only girls will play in 623 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 2: girls sports in my public schools, and then also only 624 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 2: girls will play in girl sports at the collegiate level. 625 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: And those executive orders will stand until my legislature passes 626 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 2: bills that can be signed into law. But what happened 627 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: in the press and with conservatives is that they read 628 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: a headline, they didn't read the bill. They didn't see 629 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: the bill that my legislature sent me, which was unlike 630 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 2: any other bill in the country. There was no other 631 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: bill that passed through any other state that had the 632 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 2: flaws in it that mine did. And I just believe 633 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: that it's not my job to sign bad bills that 634 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: have a lot of other unintended consequences, and it's my 635 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 2: job to fix them, which is what I did when 636 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: I asked the legislature to change it. I wish they 637 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: would have accepted it, but in the meantime, these executive 638 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: orders will stand until we get a bill that I 639 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: can sign into law. 640 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: That's really really helpful. I have to ask you when 641 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: you were back there. I assume you were competing in rodeo. 642 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I grew up competing in rodeo. I was a 643 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 2: rodeo coach. My kids rodeoed as well. It's a very 644 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: big part of our life here in South Dakota. It 645 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: is our sport. 646 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: Which events did you compete in? 647 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 2: I did barrels, polls in goat tying, so those were 648 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: the ones that I spent all my time competing in. 649 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: Were you a champion goat time? 650 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: I was pretty quick, but I don't know if I 651 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 2: was the champion. Those goats are pretty wily. 652 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about if some people's hopes for you 653 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: pan out a little bit like honest ay splitting the logs. 654 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I have this image of you tying goats 655 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: and saying I think I can master the Congress. 656 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 2: That's right. You know, I think most of our family 657 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 2: stories and memories are of either cattle, livestock or these 658 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: rodeo events. Know, me and my girls would travel from 659 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: rodeo to rodeo each weekend. We'd sleep in our trailer 660 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: and it's a tough, dirty way of life, but so special. 661 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 2: We have so many memories. 662 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: Did you go down to Cheyenne? 663 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 2: Yes, I've been there before, but I need to get 664 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 2: back there. Cynthia keeps inviting me. 665 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: As I understand it. That's just an amazing center. 666 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 2: Well, in the history around that rodeo is incredible. It 667 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 2: was so sad for me to even see a lot 668 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: of rodeos get canceled this last year because of COVID, 669 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 2: because they're outdoors and these people wanted to have their 670 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: sporting event. I think it was also amazing to me 671 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 2: to watch Rodeo Champion America. If you watched a rodeo 672 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: this year, they are such patriotic Americans that love this 673 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: country that a lot of folks who couldn't stand to 674 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: watch the NFL for the agenda they were pushing Major 675 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: League Baseball for what they were pushing Rodeo would never 676 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: do anything like that. They love this country and any 677 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 2: chance they get to tell it story, they will. 678 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: And I suspect in terms of the threat of COVID, 679 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: if you're willing to get out there in the arena 680 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: with a bull, probably you don't regard risk taking quite 681 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: the same as if you're sitting in a high rise 682 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: in New York City. 683 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 2: That's exactly true. They're tough. 684 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: Me's well, well, listen, you are a terrific leader, you 685 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: have a very big future, and you're also a good sport. 686 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: And I really appreciate the way you've talked candidly and 687 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: openly about things, and I wish you well, and I 688 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: think all of us are going to be hearing a 689 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: great deal more from you. 690 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 2: Well, let's visit again soon. I enjoyed it, and I 691 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: would love to chat with folks, especially when it comes 692 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 2: to this education process that we need to have with 693 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 2: our kids. And honestly, there's a lot of adults that 694 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 2: don't understand the importance of protecting our constitution and our 695 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: freedoms and what our history means to us. 696 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: There's an enormous vacuum right now for somebody to fill 697 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: to help citizens understand what their rights are and what 698 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: they can do to change the schools, and what they 699 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 1: can do to make share their children learn patriotic and 700 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: accurate history. So I have a hunch that we're going 701 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: to be seeing you around the country. 702 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: Yes, let me tell you, Newt. Everything you're seeing in 703 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 2: South Dakota that's successful right now is because I adhere 704 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 2: to the history and the perspective their founding fathers gave us. 705 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 2: We are the fastest growing economy, the lowest unemployment in 706 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,479 Speaker 2: the nation. We have thousands of people moving to our state, 707 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 2: and we have historic revenues coming in and it's all 708 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: because we adhere to conservative principles as defined by our 709 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 2: founding fathers that were given to us at the beginning 710 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: of this country. And that's the testimony people should use 711 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: to really blueprint out how their way of life should 712 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 2: be protected. 713 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: That's great. Listen, Thank you very very much, you bet, 714 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: thanks Newton. 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