WEBVTT - Drive Time: Travis Chats with Austin Jackson, Mohamed Kamara and Patrick Paul 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:06.480 To our remove going Deep Spiegals Pass from the Baptist 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:11.399 Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:14.720 Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:21.800 He's got my hands in the playoffs. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:30.360 What is up Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.240 I am your host, Travis Wingfeld. And on today's show, 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.840 we are going to hear from three more players from 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.600 your Miami Dolphins. We're going to the offensive line. Austin 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.279 Jackson and Patrick Paul will join me in a breakdown 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.559 heading into the twenty twenty four campaign and much much more. 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.000 Plus we go to the other side of the football 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.239 and the guys. Those guys are trying to block in 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.800 rookie Muhammad Kamara from the Baptist Health Studios inside the 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:58.120 Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Drive Time Podcast. 0:00:58.360 --> 0:00:59.800 Maie Gaffish. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.440 Let's go first, that's the rule. Let's go ahead and 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.320 welcome in my guest today that Dolphins a great right 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:07.880 tackle Austin Jackson joining us now on the Draft Time 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.320 Podcast is Dolphins right tackle. I guess just a tackle 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.760 right and Austin Jackson. Austin, welcome in, man. How you 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:13.200 doing today? 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.120 Man? Doing well? Doing well? How about yourself. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.520 I'm great. It's always good to talk to you. We 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.400 came into this thing the same year. We've talked about 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.280 it that before, but it's year five. Man, Yeah, is 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:23.960 that crazy to you? 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:28.280 It is crazy. It's crazy and it's exciting. But I 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:29.920 look back and I'm like, oh my gosh, I can't 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:31.320 believe this is your five already. 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.360 I know it goes so fast. It goes by so fast. 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:37.200 And speaking of that, you know, first couple years of 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.520 your career, you play some left tackle, some right tackle, 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:41.800 you play some guard. Twenty twenty two you get a 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.880 chance to kind of solidify that right tackle spot. And 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:45.000 what was it the first quarter? 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:45.720 Right? 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:50.040 We get injured, first quarter, rolled my ankle up really bad, 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:56.040 Grade two strain. Actually got put on an ir right away, right. 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:00.360 And then I'm rehabbing from that injury. And as I'm 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.560 coming back to practice that week, we're playing the Vikings 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.720 at home, and I strained my calf that same week, 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.919 the same leg, same leg or no opposite leg. They 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:12.639 call it the compensation injury. So I strained the opposite leg, 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.080 and then I rehab that, get off, I r I'm 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.440 ready to come back. Week ten, Week eleven, we're gonna 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.880 make a playoff push, you know. And then that same 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:25.080 game in the third quarter, we're playing the Texans in 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.200 twenty twenty two, third quarter, I get hit again, roll 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.079 my ankle again, but it's as much worse as time. 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.760 My coaches look at it or my trainers look at it, 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.160 and they're saying, yeah, that. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.000 Needs surgical word done for the year. 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:37.760 Done for the year. 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:40.920 So a small hiccup in my third year, which is 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.120 one of the biggest years, you know, especially for a 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:48.440 first rounder. But you know, everything that happened to happen 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.639 here we are, got healthy and got into the best 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.720 shape of my life from that so great. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.280 I remember watching you when when that injury first happened 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.040 in the Patriots game, the opener, and like you were 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:58.440 kind of like testing it out, and I was like, ah, 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:00.400 that's that's usually a bad sign when the guys trying 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.040 to test the limits of what he can do, because 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:03.960 it's like, I think you played like one more snap 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:05.800 and then you probably you had to know it right away, right. 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:07.720 Yeah, I tried to do one more snap and almost 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:08.840 fell on my face. 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.320 So that's that's gotta be. Like, you know, if I 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.400 injured a hand then I can't type anymore. That's a 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.440 big deal for me, your entire livelihood, your body, and 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.239 you're going through a situation where again I talk about 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:21.519 like you jump around little bit. You finally have a 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.440 home at right tackle. Mentally, Take me through what that 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.040 was like, man, because that had to have been really 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:27.320 difficult to deal. 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:31.360 With, right, Yeah, it was a lot to deal with, 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.000 but I was. I was grateful throughout it all. My 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.720 experience in twenty twenty two helped me too, just because 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.800 I had wanted to play football so bad and I 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.320 just had external forces prohibiting me from doing what I wanted, 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.960 you know, But finally having the opportunity and being at 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.880 right tackle, I was just really glad to get back 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.280 in the groove of competing and performing, you know how 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.920 the starter position on the offensive line, and just keep 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.480 getting better every week. You know, That's my favorite part. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.200 About the season, is getting better every single week, every 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.720 single week. Right, And So, how does did you feel 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.240 that kind of coming into play last year? Like from 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.000 where you were in Week one to the wild card 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.400 game in Kansas City, do you feel like you made 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:13.720 a lot of strides from that time? 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:15.800 Definitely, I definitely do think I made a lot of 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:19.400 strides because the nature of you know, football in the NFL, 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.320 it's ever changing, and just being able to have the 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:27.440 opportunity to play and get better it helps. 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:27.599 You a lot. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.279 Yeah, the way I look at it, and I'm really 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:31.520 glad I got to experience that. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.240 You mentioned the training of overcoming the jury from twenty 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:35.719 twenty two kind of put you in a position to 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.160 be in the best shape of your life. Is that 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.760 that's what you said, right, Yes, So how did that 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.000 benefit you? And just I guess take us through that. 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:48.520 Yeah, so I got injured in my ankle. It's my 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.000 third lower extremity and injury and like the all in 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:56.600 one year, one season, so not even a year. And 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.040 with the system we have there's a lot more running. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.000 It's not your usual pro style offense. It's more so 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.799 it's more spread out with a lot of other stuff 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.719 as you can see. And the choice to just lose 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.800 weight and really focus in on a routine that allowed 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.200 my body to perform daily. 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.600 That was the main focus. And I'm glad I found that. 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.240 Yeah, we all are, man, it was really cool. And 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.040 then and then I guess it kind of culminates her. 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.120 You know, you finish out the season and the most 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.120 important part of the games. But the extension comes in November. 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.560 I want to say it was Tell me about that, man, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:31.600 how how good did that feel? And just tell us 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:32.240 about that moment. 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:36.440 Oh, it was a crazy experience. You know, I'm I'm 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.599 training to be the best tackle on the Dolphins, you know, 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.839 throughout the year, and then you know, in the midst 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:48.400 of that, you know, the extension comes. I wasn't I'm 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.320 not going to say I was not expecting it, but 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.600 it did come as a surprise when it did came. 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.600 So it was just really exciting. 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.040 I'm really glad for the opportunity, really thankful to be here. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:00.880 It's very exciting. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.080 This is one of the most cliche questions somebody can 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.120 ever ask, but I gotta ask it because I'm just 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.480 curious myself. You just go buy something, What was it? 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.600 What was the first big purchase you made after that? 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:10.120 Oh? 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.520 The first big purchase? Oh, I would say the first 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.320 big purchase was I took my family to Hawaii. 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:17.080 Okay, good deal. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.320 I took my family to Hawaii, but we enjoyed it. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.440 We went to the Big Island. Okay, well, yeah, we 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.000 stayed in like WAYI and I on the west, the 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:27.720 west side, they call it. 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.440 So he was beautiful. I would say that was a 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:31.040 big purchase. 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.479 Yeah, that'll that'll do. I mean that's uh. I'm West 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:34.880 Coast guy as well, so I've been to Hawaii a 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:36.480 few times and my wife, actually my wife and I 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.040 got married in Hawaii, so we we hold that place 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.000 very near and dear to our hearts. That's where they 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:41.880 filmed Jurassic Park. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:43.120 It's yes, beautiful. 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:45.840 Oh wow, No, no, no, I was gonna say we went 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.040 to Cool Island, Cooler Ranch, but. 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.280 It's just like a tost spot. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.440 Yeah. Yeah, they filmed some of Jurassic Park. I mean, 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:54.560 I'm not sure about all of it. 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.919 It's so gorgeous. It's it's the most beautiful backdrop in 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:58.280 the entire world. Now, I come out here and it's 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.160 like the waves on the East Coast. Man, they doing 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.000 it for me the same way the West Coast does 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:02.680 in Hawaii. 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.720 Uh, Hawaii is in its own category, for sure. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.200 Definitely is that. Then you get southern California, which you 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:10.400 spent some time there as well. 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:11.600 California's competing. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.040 Yeah, it's it's right up there. Let's uh, let's let's 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.640 finish with some more football here. So, you know, coinciding 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.360 with your breakout year last year, coach Butch Barrier arrives 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:20.760 and we've talked about this a little bit. You and 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.800 I just you know, in passing, but I just wanted 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.440 to explain to Dolphins fans what he meant to your 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.320 career and just how valuable Butch has been to the 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:28.440 offensive line room. 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:30.560 Oh, he's been a lot to you know, my career 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.320 in the offensive line room. You know, he's a coach 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:37.200 that takes his job very seriously. It's very detailed oriented 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:42.560 and execution oriented, but also is able to hold a 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.440 He's able to keep all of us to a standard 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:49.280 of being at our best, you know, recognizing our best, 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.560 finding the tools to tell us how to stay at 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.000 our best, and then you know, keeping us there. And 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:59.080 you know, not everyone will take the steps to maximize 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.200 your best and then hold you accountable. So I think 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.720 he does a great job of that. He's done a 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:08.600 great job with helping me transition into this offense. Yeah, 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.800 he's been in it for a long time, coaching in it. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:13.800 He has a lot of confidence in it. So it's 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.400 been great to you know, have someone with a lot 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:21.360 of knowledge and just it must. But I don't know 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.880 how long Butch has been coaching, but he's got a 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:24.560 lot of experience. 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.640 You can tell he's been around the block. Definitely. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:28.520 He's fun to watch coach too. Man, I love the 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.240 passion that he shows up. Well, you can hear from 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.240 the stands when you guys are on the other side 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:33.559 of the field and we're way over here on the 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.480 other side of the field watching. You know, I think 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:36.920 they have like DB's in front of us most of 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:38.120 the days, but you guys are on the other side. 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.439 I can still hear Butch from from very far away exactly. Yeah, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:42.720 but the sun had on and the who the whole 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.560 get up, it's a whole persona. Okay, So we talked 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.640 about the kind of shape you got into. You know, 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.120 I've seen beat guys have talked about like Austin Jackson 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:52.800 looks like a d n You just you just don't 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.960 look like a typical offensive lineman. Sometimes guys in your 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.640 position group they have guts, right, you don't have a gut. 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:00.840 And so I'm curious because every time I watched d 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.720 Lineman on micd up shows whatever it's NFL film, whatever 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:05.720 it is, They're always coming after you guys for being 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.880 too big, right, fat guys? What do they say to you? 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.000 Because they can't say that to you. 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:13.280 They don't say anything exactly. 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.199 What are they gonna say. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:19.480 Fighting power, talking power, you know, unless it's technique. 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:20.160 But that's about it. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.040 Well it's pretty good last year too. 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.320 Yeah, it's interesting you say that most people are surprised 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.840 that I play offensive line. Yeah, even outside of football, 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:31.360 Like take your person with you know, just your average 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:32.200 football knowledge. 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.959 You ask me, are you a linebacker? Are you a 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:35.720 defensive end? 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.960 That's right, and telling my playoffensive line is it's a 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:39.719 fun conversation. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.920 I mean, you know the whole six six right, Yes, 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.040 that might do it too. I think that that probably 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.240 plays a part. Austin, you're the best man. I appreciate 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:49.600 you so much for your time today, and I enjoy 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:50.080 the rest of the day. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:51.800 Man appreciate And. 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.120 There he goes. Really good stuff with Austin. As always, 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.000 let's go ahead and take our first break. Come back 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.040 on the other side, and welcome in the God's trying 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.280 to get pressure on those off offensive tackles. Rookie fifth 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.760 round draft pick from Colorado State, Mohammed Kamara that's next 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.760 Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.800 by a donation one of guys, Travis Wingfield here a 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.760 Draft Time podcast. Another player guest on the show today, 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.959 Dolphin's rookie edge pass rusher, defensive vent outsidelnebacker. Wherever the 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:19.640 hell they call you, guys, what are they called edges 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:20.000 these days? 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:24.000 Just damn athlete, damn athlete, man, God, damn athlete, that's 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:24.439 what the hell. 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:26.600 I am a guy that can go dunk a basketball 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.480 and maybe hit a home I can't those two things. 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.560 No, no, are you not going to see me above 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:32.040 the room. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.559 Below the rim camara, Hey, what did I jump? 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.640 I jumped like a what did I jump? 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:40.520 No? 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.480 I brought it eleven? No ten? I mean ten three 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:45.360 or something like. 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:49.319 That side of the gym right there. That's pretty good, man. 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.920 Oh I jumped a thirty four and a half. 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.760 That's not You're not dunking with that? I thank you. 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.520 No, No, No, I can dunk a tennis ball, not 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:00.960 a real got to hoop up back. 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:01.720 We can go check it out now. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.520 I made football player. 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:06.280 That's what we want you here for. Yeah, let's go 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.080 ahead and talk about that here real quick. So coming 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.280 from Colorado State and we talked a little bit about 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.560 your experience there before I jump on the podcast. Here, 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:13.920 I won't go into the Washington State game. 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:14.440 Go coops. 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:16.040 Just that's all gonna do real quick. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:16.480 Can I curse? 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:18.200 I got edited out if you do. 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:18.640 But go ahead. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.800 That's gonna play so good in my podcast the Cooks. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.440 Hey, oh you know who I was training over there 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:27.160 in Arizona. 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:32.319 I was over there with my two good friends, Number ten, 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.160 Brian Jackson and number eight. Yeah, shout out to them. Yeah, 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.600 shout out to them, boys. Man, let's go shout out 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.920 to the r J Brand and Jackson. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:41.160 Man. 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.719 I hope they do well. Man, those my guys right there. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.480 They were fun to watch for for for a fan, 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:46.680 for sure, as a alumni. 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:48.880 It's crazy because I watched their highlights. I was like, 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.280 oh okay, I see yeah, now they was wrecking some people. 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.600 I mean, but when I played them, I had yeah, 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:56.959 you know, you know too, when I had sex, you know, 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.400 strip sack, you know, beating up camp war the deal 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.120 not crazy. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:03.559 We get a chance to go watch cam Woard this 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.839 year across the street at the at the heart Rock City. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:10.240 In the game, I think they play Florida State here, 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.480 I could be right anyway, Les, Let's let's move on here. 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:14.439 I want to talk to you about someone else that 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.839 also went to Colorado State and Shack Barrett. I know 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:18.240 you've probably asked by him a lot, but I just 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.360 want to go ahead and just ask you how cool 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:21.800 it was for you to be here with another guy 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.120 that was also at the same school as you and 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.240 was so dominant. You know, had the path where he 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.840 was kind of overlooked as a a collegiate, gets an 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:29.920 NFL and becomes a star pass pressure Like, how is 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.080 how important I have to have that. 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:31.560 For you here? 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:33.719 I mean, I'll be honest with you. 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:34.360 He made it. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:42.280 It's not just him. You also got the Joey Joey 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:47.120 Porters of the world. Those guys made it. They crawl 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:48.839 so I can walk. That's how I look at it, 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:53.000 you know what I mean. So uh, he had a 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:54.959 Defensive Player of the Year. I got Defensive Play of 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:59.120 the Year. And you know, the film speaks for itself. 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.319 He does a great job. He does a great job 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.280 of always getting to the quarterback and even our coach, 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.280 even our coach right now, Coach Crow Like, he still 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:10.160 shows us Shack Barry's highlights, you know, because he has 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.280 so many forced fumbles because he's so aggressive on the 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:17.679 ball and on the quarterback. So excuse me, you know, 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.719 from him going from Colorado State into continuing to do 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.880 that in the league, you know, that's that's just a blessing. 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:25.080 Man. 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:26.520 I'm just trying to get where he is at. 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.040 Because you guys kind of similar builds, right in terms 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.520 of like not the tallest edges, but he he kind 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.160 of has that way of getting under those tackles too. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.160 Is that you kind of play your advantage in terms 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.199 of just using your build to your advantage because you 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:38.800 got to get that great get off right and then 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.079 you kind of duck under that tackles like shoulder. Is 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:42.880 that a good advantge for how you angle to the quarterback? 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:44.839 Definitely, I mean, it definitely is. And I mean it's 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.440 not just Shaq Barry, who's I don't know how tall 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.320 it is, but there's a lot of great pass rushes 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.480 that are six one six foot you know. You know, 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.520 And here's the thing about pass rushers. They all come 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.880 and shape, different shapes and sizes, you know what I mean, 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.120 And that's the that's the beauty of the game. You know, 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:01.920 being sure. I mean, I don't think I'm sure, but 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:09.000 that's not that's not true. But you know what I 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.000 mean being sure, that's that's what people call me. But 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:14.240 I mean I think I'm all right. 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.240 It's not like a sligh. I'm just curious if it 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.160 helps you be like, because like you know, some of 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.920 these six foot seven tackles, maybe they can't get a 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:20.480 hands on you done there. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:21.640 I don't know, No, they definitely can't. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.360 They definitely can't, you know what I mean, Like, there's 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:28.160 different ways to rush from my from my perspective, you know, 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.480 he had, like from my perspective being short, quote unquote, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.640 uh six seven, even even six four, I don't know, 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.360 Like whatever, six whatever you can be, you still have 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.080 to play to my level. You still have to block me. 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.080 And that's just my philosophy. Like that's just how I 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:44.680 look at it. Like, at the end of the day, 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:45.840 you still have to block me. 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:47.520 So you can be. 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:53.000 Six ' eight to I don't know the average old 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:57.600 line outside that's the outside line tackles, eight ranges or 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.800 whatever the case may be, but you still have to 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:00.480 block me. 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.920 You still have to get me. 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.800 And I do believe that being shorter quote unquote, you 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.040 have a smaller surface area, and that's just how I 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.720 look at it, you know, being longer and taller, it's cool. 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.400 And they have their way of rushing and I have 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:18.040 my way of rushing. So I'm okay with being you know, 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.320 the short guy. You gotta love your short kings too, That's. 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:21.920 Right, because most of the time you want to rush 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:23.560 half man anyway, right, So that's kind of exactly a 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.200 position to do that, you know what I mean, A 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:26.280 half man that's short. 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:27.640 Come on, now, that's hard? 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:28.960 Is that a quarter man? Is that? Is that how 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:29.240 that works? 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:33.000 I don't know. Yeah, quarterman. That is a quarterman. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.240 So okay, So I love one of my favorite things 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.080 about football in general. And I might not look like it, 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:39.440 but I watched this game a lot, I say you 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.000 as much as I possibly can, is you know, is 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.320 the idea of a pass rush like matchup for a 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.160 whole game, because like one rep, yeah, you can get 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.720 someone whatever, but like the idea of rushing someone for 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.880 fifty sixty snaps, like you have to have a plan, 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.280 how to kind of alter that plan right as it 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:54.720 goes along? 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:58.120 Yeah, And that's where I it's excel at you know 0:15:58.160 --> 0:15:59.800 what I mean, because I always come in with a plan. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.080 You know, it's a little bit harder right now because 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.320 I'm just getting I'm just getting here. These are whole 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:10.840 different tackles that I gotta learn and study. But when 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:12.960 it comes down to gain time, that's why I excel at, 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.800 you know what I mean. These guys you watch film, 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:20.080 you like not film, you watch the TV copy people 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.400 in the stands, they only see the finished product. But 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.080 most of the time, that guy was probably working on 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.920 his craft for years and years just to get that 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.320 one moment, you know what I mean. And it's hard 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:37.160 work because sometimes sometimes you might get it, sometimes you 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.240 may not, you know what I mean, And it's just 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.360 always gotta you always gotta pick it back up and 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:46.200 just try again. So but for me personally, that's why 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:51.480 I see that, uh excel excel at because I'm always 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.240 gonna come into the to the game prepared. 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.080