Speaker 1: I am all in, kiss you, I am all in
Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast Everybody Scott Patterson. Here,
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring in a very very special guest, somebody
Speaker 1: I have known for thirty years. She was I start
Speaker 1: opposite her UM in a little film way back in
Speaker 1: the day, UM called Intend to Kill. It was my
Speaker 1: first real job, paying job. It kept me in l
Speaker 1: A and it kept me hanging in there. Um and
Speaker 1: Tracy is impossible to categorize. While her early notoriety brought
Speaker 1: her international fame, her determination, grit and talent have garnered
Speaker 1: her respect in many areas of the entertainment industry and
Speaker 1: wait till I read this off to very very impressive.
Speaker 1: She has appeared in dozens of films and television shows,
Speaker 1: from Roger Corman's Not of This Earth, Cry Baby by
Speaker 1: John Waters, Blade Zack and Mirra Make a Porno Um
Speaker 1: to Excision from Melrose Place to Roseanne Will and Grace
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls Uh two series regular roles on NBC's The Profiler,
Speaker 1: sci Fi's First Wave. Her autobiography, Tracy Lords Underneath It
Speaker 1: All HarperCollins, was a New York Times bestseller and has
Speaker 1: been optioned for a mini series. Her pioneering techno album
Speaker 1: One Thousand Fires radio Active m c A topped the
Speaker 1: Billboard Dance Chart and was featured on both Mortal Kombat
Speaker 1: and Virtuosity soundtracks. That is an amazing accomplishment. UM. Her
Speaker 1: directorial debut, Sweet Pea, was produced under the auspices of
Speaker 1: the renowned Fox Search Lab. She is currently a contributing
Speaker 1: designer at pin Up Girl Clothing. Her line, Tracy Lords
Speaker 1: for the Tour for Everybody, can be found at pin
Speaker 1: Up Girls Clothing dot com. She lives in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: with her husband son and their rescue German shepherd Ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. I give you the one, the only, Tracy Lords.
Speaker 1: High Scott, how are you doing, Tracy? You look great.
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's been a minute. Um, it's been a
Speaker 1: hot minute for sure. You know. I'm sitting here reading
Speaker 1: your bio. Your bio is so packed with so many interesting,
Speaker 1: eclectic things, and you've been so successful at so many
Speaker 1: things that I'm not even gonna go into that now.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do a separate introduction for you. I
Speaker 1: just want to get into this, uh, this Gilmore stuff. Anyway.
Speaker 1: First of all, how are you life is good. Yeah. Year, Yeah,
Speaker 1: knock and forth between l A and Atlanta and New York.
Speaker 1: I'm on the East coast right now, and I did
Speaker 1: a film and during the pandemic, which was very strange. Um,
Speaker 1: just because I don't know how much you did during
Speaker 1: the pandemic, but I think being in the bubbles as
Speaker 1: actors and having to wait outside and not having the
Speaker 1: connection to each other that we're used to having was
Speaker 1: very strange. It was really strange. Yeah. Yeah. We just
Speaker 1: kind of huddled in our house and I have a
Speaker 1: young son and a wife and and we uh we
Speaker 1: took a lot of walks when we were not allowed to.
Speaker 1: And um, I wrote, Yeah, and I wrote a lot
Speaker 1: of music and I created a podcast and it's pretty productive.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it was definitely not visiting people, uh,
Speaker 1: not losing the connections that I built up at staying
Speaker 1: in touch which was daily. But you know, we got
Speaker 1: through it. We got through it. UM powered through. So
Speaker 1: let's talk about, UM, how you got the show? Who
Speaker 1: contacted you first? To take us through that process where
Speaker 1: you became aware that that Gilmore Girls was interested in
Speaker 1: you or that there was an audition? How did it
Speaker 1: tell us about it um it was. I had met
Speaker 1: Amy Sherman, how you know, earlier, not even I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't believe it was even for the Gilmer Girls,
Speaker 1: for something else she was doing. And you know, the
Speaker 1: girl Gilmore Girls was really on a role and they
Speaker 1: were looking for this character. And I was actually with
Speaker 1: my husband and my young son, our young son in
Speaker 1: Hawaii at the time when the audition came in. So
Speaker 1: I came actually I was just cast in the offer
Speaker 1: came in for the Gilmore Girls, and so I came
Speaker 1: back early and I ended up one set and it
Speaker 1: was the first time I'd seen you, I think in
Speaker 1: maybe ten years. So we did that little HBO shoot
Speaker 1: him up action movie back in the day, and that's
Speaker 1: what I remembered you from. God that was thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: Machine right, Yeah, Yeah, that was that was something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we met on a little film that you were the
Speaker 1: bas sub you were, you were the executive producer. I
Speaker 1: believe we're one of the one of the main producers
Speaker 1: with PM Entertainment, Charles can Gannis and called into and
Speaker 1: it was a fun little film and it was I
Speaker 1: was headed back to New York. I had given up
Speaker 1: hope and and then I got a phone call and
Speaker 1: had this audition and got the part. Charlie offered it
Speaker 1: to me right in the room and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, you know, um, and it was fun. It
Speaker 1: was like we did big stunts in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night on on Hollywood Boulevard with car crashes and fire.
Speaker 1: It was just like it was kind of cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, we would never get to do that, not
Speaker 1: in that way any different procedures. And I looked back
Speaker 1: at it now and I think, wow, we weren't killed.
Speaker 1: But I mean it was really I mean, especially that night,
Speaker 1: it felt like a big budget film and like, what
Speaker 1: in the heck is a little movie doing this all
Speaker 1: this big stuff, all this big demolition and the stunts
Speaker 1: and the whole thing. That's a pensive. So I don't
Speaker 1: know how they pulled it off, but it was. It
Speaker 1: was large. You know. It's funny because p M Entertainment
Speaker 1: really they had a thing about that. It's they did
Speaker 1: what they did, they did really well. It reminds me
Speaker 1: of like, um, I don't know, working for Roger Corman
Speaker 1: in the in the lumber Yard in Santa Monica, which
Speaker 1: you know I did, so I did my first not
Speaker 1: of this Earth was there with Jim nor Sky and
Speaker 1: that kind of like fly by the seat of your pants,
Speaker 1: this is happening. We've got fifteen pages today and we've
Speaker 1: got to get our day one take to take. Okay,
Speaker 1: great movie that it all worked, which I prefer, you know,
Speaker 1: I love working that way. Um, well, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's It's sort of reminiscent of the stage, isn't it,
Speaker 1: because you've got to just bring it. You go out
Speaker 1: there and you just have to bring it. You got
Speaker 1: to get it in one or two or just like
Speaker 1: that too. There's such a rhythm to the show, and
Speaker 1: in particular Natalie Zimman, the role that I played, she
Speaker 1: was just real fast talking, and I remember one of
Speaker 1: the first things the feedback that I got because I
Speaker 1: actually didn't speak to her to Amy, was that we
Speaker 1: need somebody with Tracy Lowd's energy, because I think I
Speaker 1: have a I can I had that New York kind
Speaker 1: of fast talking, don't slow down thing, and they wanted
Speaker 1: her to be that way. That was the note that
Speaker 1: they gave me. And I just remember um thinking that
Speaker 1: it was an audition and being told that it was
Speaker 1: actually an offer, and just being so happy to be
Speaker 1: invited to your party because I'm such a fan of
Speaker 1: the show and because just what a cast, my god.
Speaker 1: So you yeah, really, I mean every day was like,
Speaker 1: you know, going to play with the All Stars. It was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a heck of a lot of fun,
Speaker 1: but you really needed to bring your a game or
Speaker 1: else you were going to be in trouble. Um. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the writing, my god, so good. With the dialogue.
Speaker 1: It was lots of dialogue right in the big rhythm
Speaker 1: and everything about that show. So it was it was awesome.
Speaker 1: You know. It was a lot easier of a job
Speaker 1: then I think, and I realized at the time, because
Speaker 1: all of the heavy lifting had been done for you
Speaker 1: with the dialogue, right. So, I mean, the dialogue kind
Speaker 1: of told you where to go, stand and where to move,
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's a ten page scene. And I
Speaker 1: think that was the the best part of it because
Speaker 1: we didn't really have to I mean, we had to
Speaker 1: be open. We had to have our you know, sort
Speaker 1: of actors process open and functioning in the whole thing. Uh.
Speaker 1: But when you just went through a couple of paces
Speaker 1: in rehearsal, you know, the writing guided you where you
Speaker 1: needed to go. It was all kind of logical, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't hard work, you know, it just wasn't hard
Speaker 1: figuring it out. It was all sort of like a
Speaker 1: roadmap right in there with a dialogue. So from the
Speaker 1: very beginning, did you feel that way from the very beginning, Yes,
Speaker 1: from the very very beginning, because they threw it right away,
Speaker 1: and I told the story before they threw it. I
Speaker 1: think it was the first day or the second day.
Speaker 1: We're in production at Warner Brothers on season one, and
Speaker 1: it was six am or five hours. Lauren and I
Speaker 1: were in the makeup chair and they threw a ten
Speaker 1: page scene at us. It was just hot out of
Speaker 1: the writer's room. We had to memorize it and go
Speaker 1: shoot it right then, and we were terrified at the beginning,
Speaker 1: but then we did it because the rhythm of the
Speaker 1: writing is just sort of song, you know, emotionally logical
Speaker 1: that you you just sort of remember it. You know
Speaker 1: that it just makes sense. So we went and did it,
Speaker 1: and we gained the confidence that we could do that
Speaker 1: sort of thing on that show because because of the writing.
Speaker 1: Um so let me ask you, Um, you were let
Speaker 1: go as Emily's designer because of all that controversy and
Speaker 1: being pulled in different directions and all that. It was
Speaker 1: a great episode, by the way. You were great in it.
Speaker 1: Um Um. You had a lot of scenes with Lauren Graham.
Speaker 1: What what was she like to work with? Absolutely her,
Speaker 1: she was completely a pro. She um really giving as
Speaker 1: an actress, and she was just really lovely. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you guys had the benefit of just living in
Speaker 1: those characters for so long, and I find you know,
Speaker 1: walking onto a set where you're a guest actor can
Speaker 1: be really intimidating because just you've you've got it all
Speaker 1: on your bones and you're having a couple of coffee
Speaker 1: and here's new new new words or pages or whatever,
Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, whatever. And it's the guest stars
Speaker 1: that really sweat it because you got it just somehow
Speaker 1: immersed yourselves and find that reality really fast. There's no
Speaker 1: room to to get comfortable. There really isn't. But she
Speaker 1: was really lovely and that she she made me comfortable,
Speaker 1: She made me feel welcome, and she was just really giving.
Speaker 1: So I really loved it. I loved that I got
Speaker 1: to work with her. What was it like you remember
Speaker 1: that first scene you did with her in Luke's diner.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that day in the diner? Yeah, where
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sort of way some poetic about different types
Speaker 1: of wallpaper, So anything else you can remember about it. See.
Speaker 1: The downer was when you came in and you were
Speaker 1: going on about um about uh you know, when you're
Speaker 1: some You had some smartass remark that you said about, yeah,
Speaker 1: making things pretty when you girls are done making things pretty,
Speaker 1: and you started just right right away, you know, in
Speaker 1: on me trying to blow my job. I don't know,
Speaker 1: he was he had his moments, didn't he ult right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a Yeah, that was a character. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that was the guy. I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: I just figured he needed to be. Everybody was so
Speaker 1: um sunny in that cast. There just needed to be
Speaker 1: one for you. Well, I mean I think I think
Speaker 1: I think Emily and I uh provided some a much
Speaker 1: needed counterpoint to all that sunshine. Maybe you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, I just anyway, um charming, kind of sexy.
Speaker 1: Think about your character too, you know, he he was
Speaker 1: a little bit crusty, he's a little bit salty. He
Speaker 1: liked to kind of poke at things, and it's got
Speaker 1: to be this way. But there's still something really charming
Speaker 1: and kind of sexy about him too, which is I
Speaker 1: think why it worked right right and great chemistry with Lauren.
Speaker 1: I mean that that we just had that from day one.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't act that. You can't you can't
Speaker 1: fake that. It's either there it's not. As you well know,
Speaker 1: you have enough experience um to know. You walk on
Speaker 1: a set, you either feel it or you don't. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's either there it's not. And you you know,
Speaker 1: you could be getting along with a person wonderfully and
Speaker 1: then you could end up their best friends. But on camera,
Speaker 1: something doesn't click. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: just that thing that isn't that's missing, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: now that we're talking about the diner, I remember that
Speaker 1: you didn't look at me once we're standing over us
Speaker 1: at the we were. You came up behind us and
Speaker 1: we were I was showing her different swamps, That's what
Speaker 1: it was. I was showing her different watches for the wallpaper,
Speaker 1: and I was going on about it, and you came
Speaker 1: sort of like brooding up behind us. It was like,
Speaker 1: what's going on? And you said, this is a diner.
Speaker 1: You know, people need to be eating and you're taking
Speaker 1: up this table and what's all this stuff? And you
Speaker 1: started just pitching about like what was going on? And
Speaker 1: I was kind of looking at out of the court
Speaker 1: of my eye, and you just never once looked at me.
Speaker 1: You were directing all of this to the back of
Speaker 1: her head. I didn't you didn't have a choice, I swear, officer.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a choice. That's what they paid me
Speaker 1: to do. And they said you gotta be this way.
Speaker 1: You know how many days were you on set? Do
Speaker 1: you remember on that on that episode? It was fast.
Speaker 1: I think I was on like three days. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: three days? Huh. Well, you know, did you get a
Speaker 1: plenty of photos? Did you get? It wasn't really like
Speaker 1: people weren't selfie crazy back then, were they? Yeah? One
Speaker 1: picture from that set. Gosh, can you imagine today being
Speaker 1: on that set all the selfie but that you know,
Speaker 1: Warner's Warner brothers probably trying to keep a lid on it,
Speaker 1: you know, umd memos like don't don't, don't put this
Speaker 1: stuff on the socials, You're gonna mess up our PR department,
Speaker 1: which you know, yeah, well that's what's happening everywhere right
Speaker 1: now and I'm finishing a show here and I can't
Speaker 1: talk about it. There's the social media block out for it. Um.
Speaker 1: They even now put different names on the top of
Speaker 1: the script. You've got the working title to the name
Speaker 1: of the film doesn't come out, and it changes always.
Speaker 1: It seems change, you know, during the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: just with lockdown, not lockdown. We're working, We're you're in
Speaker 1: this You're in the zone, You're not in this center.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's been kind of cookie, it's been.
Speaker 1: It's been really a trip, it really yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: definitely times have changed, that is for sure. I was
Speaker 1: wondering if the podcast was born out of you being
Speaker 1: at home and needing a creative outlet, and it sounds
Speaker 1: like that's what happened. Yeah, well yeah, yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I thought what could I do, because you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a doer. I can't sit around, you know, I always
Speaker 1: have to be working at something, um, and my days
Speaker 1: have to be structured and I have to have goals,
Speaker 1: and that's just sort of how I grew up and
Speaker 1: how I've always been. So yeah, that's that's what it
Speaker 1: came out and said. Okay, now, I'll build this, you know,
Speaker 1: let's build this. I'll make a phone call, let's build this.
Speaker 1: See where that goes? You know, complete madness for an
Speaker 1: actor to want structure because our business is so all
Speaker 1: over the place. I don't know. I mean, that's kind
Speaker 1: of how I approached uh uh studying in New York.
Speaker 1: And the whole thing is that it was it was
Speaker 1: my whole day, it was all of that. My whole
Speaker 1: day was structured around that. You know, Um no, I sure,
Speaker 1: I mean chaos within the work um, and you know,
Speaker 1: all of those creative juices flowing shore. But in terms
Speaker 1: of my approach to the business, it's it's very very
Speaker 1: structured and disciplined. Um. And so I figured let's apply
Speaker 1: that to the podcast where And the funny part of
Speaker 1: it is tracy that I thought I had an original
Speaker 1: idea of a rewatch podcast because I've never seen an episode.
Speaker 1: I found out it wasn't terribly ritual that they already
Speaker 1: had about ten of them. Um. Had you seen the
Speaker 1: series before you came to work or got the offer?
Speaker 1: Were you were aware of Gilmore Girls? You watched the show? Yeah? Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: mainly because I noticed you want it and if the
Speaker 1: film that we did, and I was like, it's not
Speaker 1: doing and I was like, wow, I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: this is what actor we wait for the day when
Speaker 1: we have this, what you have, what you have? Um,
Speaker 1: those those jobs, those moments where the writing is amazing
Speaker 1: and you've got this, you've got this in your bones
Speaker 1: and you go there and it install clicks and comes
Speaker 1: together and you you book it and you're there and
Speaker 1: you're doing it and it's like that big score. It's
Speaker 1: so wonderful. And I just remember thinking, wow, I mean
Speaker 1: just across the board, as you said, the chemistry, that
Speaker 1: just everything about the show and the fact that you
Speaker 1: know you made it there it is and being so
Speaker 1: happy for you, well, thank you. And it was just
Speaker 1: a guest star in the pilot. That's all started out.
Speaker 1: As it sort of grew into that and um still
Speaker 1: it's like, no, hey, however, you can get in the
Speaker 1: door what you know? And I had to I had
Speaker 1: to tell you I took the easy route because there
Speaker 1: was there were no network auditions or real you know,
Speaker 1: hoops to jump through except that initial meeting with Amy
Speaker 1: and the Gavin and the direct and the casting people,
Speaker 1: and that was it. That was it. I read and
Speaker 1: that was it, got got the guest star role and boom,
Speaker 1: next thing. You know, I didn't have to go to
Speaker 1: uh five six rounds of auditions and all that. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been through that and that's actually got a couple
Speaker 1: of jobs that way. But it's nerve wracking. God, you know,
Speaker 1: I know you've been there. You know what it's like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think about those days, and I think
Speaker 1: about in particular in the nineties. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it was like right in the nineties, and it was
Speaker 1: it was like Paramount Pictures. It was the WB the
Speaker 1: Fox lot, and you would go and you would be
Speaker 1: waiting to go to network and you know, it was
Speaker 1: usually like three people, was how I found it. You
Speaker 1: would be and I didn't know this at the time.
Speaker 1: I found out later, which I wish I didn't know,
Speaker 1: because it was complicated and they would put you in
Speaker 1: the zone. So if you were the first actor, you
Speaker 1: were you were. It was. It was known that you
Speaker 1: were supposed to set the tone, and then the second
Speaker 1: one and then maybe the third one that they'd compromise
Speaker 1: and higher if they didn't like the first or the second.
Speaker 1: Absolutely maddening, So you would go in there and you
Speaker 1: didn't know which is zone you were going to be in.
Speaker 1: You remember this and if your your deal would be done,
Speaker 1: and you're thinking, in all of this pressure, everybody telling
Speaker 1: you to relax, don't worry about it. There's all this pressure.
Speaker 1: There's just nothing but people just crashed and burned. But
Speaker 1: that's that's an important point that you bring up. And
Speaker 1: I don't think the audience knows that. It's a nice
Speaker 1: piece of behind the scenes information. Before you go to
Speaker 1: network on these things to the final round of auditions,
Speaker 1: there could be too, right. I mean, before you go
Speaker 1: in your deals are done, you know how much money
Speaker 1: you're going to make per episode, and if it's a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, the pressure is greater to go in. And
Speaker 1: if it's just such because it's like you know, you've
Speaker 1: got all this money on the line and it's going
Speaker 1: to change your life and it's going to change your career. Um. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's excruciating. God, it's excruciating. But then if you hit,
Speaker 1: you get one. I did this with profiler. Um I
Speaker 1: just remember that feeling right. It's as an actor, anytime
Speaker 1: your phone rings and your agents says you booked it,
Speaker 1: it's that there's no feeling like it. It's such a
Speaker 1: high with all that build up with television. Um, it's
Speaker 1: just absolute insanity, truly, because it's like, you know, I
Speaker 1: can move out of my car and I'm kidding, but
Speaker 1: it's pretty it's pretty amazing. So let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: how long has it been since you've seen an episode
Speaker 1: of Gilmore? Um? Well, this morning I went on to
Speaker 1: YouTube and I did a little perusing just to kind
Speaker 1: of refresh myself, and there was a lot about it
Speaker 1: that I forgot. But you know what I noticed my
Speaker 1: in this how many guest stars from like all walks
Speaker 1: of life that you had on that show. Everybody was
Speaker 1: on that show. You know, I saw different friends and
Speaker 1: different things, And oh I forgot that was you know,
Speaker 1: shery Lynn Finn and this and that, and I mean
Speaker 1: there were all kinds of people on the show. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We even had Norman Mailer on. We had we had
Speaker 1: Madeline Albright, We had all kinds of people. It was
Speaker 1: just it was you never knew who you were gonna
Speaker 1: see on set that day. You know. I Brian de
Speaker 1: Palmer came to set one day just to watch, you know,
Speaker 1: because his daughter is a fan, and so she came
Speaker 1: by and it was just like in gail En Heard's
Speaker 1: there and it's like what is But I was on set.
Speaker 1: One day that I was on set, came by from
Speaker 1: friends planning, and he came and said hello, he was
Speaker 1: hanging out with Laurence. Right. I just attended that he
Speaker 1: wasn't there, but it was very distracted. I'm nervous that
Speaker 1: I'm either going to be in his book or I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be in his book. So I hope
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything to make the pages of the book. Um. Um,
Speaker 1: let me ask you, do you think they should have
Speaker 1: given Nicole more of a shot? And do you also
Speaker 1: think they should have brought you back more for more episodes?
Speaker 1: Did you want to come back for more? Well, you
Speaker 1: know what, I would have loved to have come back.
Speaker 1: It seemed like, you know, where could they really was
Speaker 1: the problem? Where could they go with the character of
Speaker 1: what was going to happen? Um? What could have happened? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There could have been something with Luke.
Speaker 1: There could have Why not? I mean, can you imagine
Speaker 1: I can that would have been That would have been
Speaker 1: a blast, right, you would have had to maybe retrain
Speaker 1: your your your gaze at some point. But other than that,
Speaker 1: one small technicality, yeah, just just could totally be a theay,
Speaker 1: the fans may might have turned on me and you
Speaker 1: at the same time if that had happened. Um, well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny you can say that because in
Speaker 1: all the rooms, because there's so much about the Gilmore
Speaker 1: Girls all over the internet right and on YouTube and everything,
Speaker 1: and the fans of the Gilmore Girls they're they're hardcore, hardcore.
Speaker 1: They love the show, they know everything about Oh they
Speaker 1: have different teams, which one they root for and all
Speaker 1: of this stuff. Um, it's really it's really something that's
Speaker 1: really something. It's really you find it like across like
Speaker 1: everywhere everywhere I go, everywhere I go, it's madness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get approached. I mean, I mean even in in
Speaker 1: my neighborhood where I am now Halloween because we moved
Speaker 1: here about a year and a half ago, but it's
Speaker 1: our first Halloween with our son in this area that
Speaker 1: and we went to this place where it's uh, um,
Speaker 1: they really do Halloween like I've never seen it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was like being at a music festival. It was
Speaker 1: it was amazing. Um, And yeah, we had to leave
Speaker 1: because there were too many people that were you know,
Speaker 1: my son was like, Dad, why is everybody? Why does
Speaker 1: everybody want to take a photo with you? You to
Speaker 1: wear a mask? No, no, we weren't in costume. The
Speaker 1: kids were, but we weren't. But anyway, UM, so let's talk.
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit more about your
Speaker 1: very diverse uh, film, TV, music, directing, and stage acting
Speaker 1: career at New York Times best selling author Fear Memoir.
Speaker 1: What are you most proud of? What am I most
Speaker 1: proud of? Um? I'm most proud that I'm all working
Speaker 1: actor and I'm still a working actor. And maybe that
Speaker 1: sounds a little hokey, but it's really true, because you know,
Speaker 1: there's upston downs in the business. Longevity is something that
Speaker 1: is rare. You know, you get your a little shot,
Speaker 1: maybe you and then you fade away and that's that,
Speaker 1: or you're going to do something else. I was a
Speaker 1: paper girl when I was twelve years old. That's the
Speaker 1: only other job that I've really had. But I've had
Speaker 1: many jobs in the entertainment industry. I am a singer,
Speaker 1: I am a writer. I have directed. UM, I have
Speaker 1: a passion for I do a lot of voiceover work now.
Speaker 1: I just built a booth in my house, which is amazing.
Speaker 1: That was what I did during the pandemic. You did
Speaker 1: your started your podcast. I started recording again and doing
Speaker 1: snippets and writing and and doing a lot of voiceovers.
Speaker 1: Uh I. I I started years ago doing voiceovers, about
Speaker 1: ten years ago, and I've voiced about sixty two different roles,
Speaker 1: wacky roles, all from you know, shopkeepers to this and
Speaker 1: that in Hitman. So I've done a lot of video
Speaker 1: games and things like that. Uh. You go into the
Speaker 1: booth and you've got clients all over the world, and
Speaker 1: it's just it's really fascinating. It's been really fun. It's
Speaker 1: um you stay sharp that way as an actor because
Speaker 1: it's so fast. You know, it's right away, here are
Speaker 1: the new lines, and here's the thing, and you know,
Speaker 1: something blowing up in this and you know, I have
Speaker 1: a ball doing it. It's been an interesting trip, so
Speaker 1: you know. And and this year it's like I have
Speaker 1: three pictures coming out, with three films in the camp
Speaker 1: so that's nice. I did the one in the Pandemic,
Speaker 1: which was very strange, staying in the bubble, like the
Speaker 1: tent that they put the actors in and you stayed
Speaker 1: outside the outside the set. When they called you on,
Speaker 1: they texted you and you had your temperature taken and
Speaker 1: then you went in a little bubble. And we did
Speaker 1: this movie and it was so strange watching it now.
Speaker 1: It's been playing the festivals. It was released about six
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and to see this and really know what
Speaker 1: what was going on at the time, it just it's
Speaker 1: pretty bizarre. So there's that one. And I had a
Speaker 1: horror film that just hit with um with Halloween, so
Speaker 1: that was really great. And I've been down here in
Speaker 1: the South working on a very dark comedy with some
Speaker 1: predible people that actors that I wanted to work for
Speaker 1: were a very long time and an amazing director. And
Speaker 1: I wish I could tell you what it is. I
Speaker 1: can't because of the social media. I'll look on I'll
Speaker 1: look on IMDBA, see what it is. It's probably listed there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's called Now then I didn't say any I'll find out.
Speaker 1: I seem to have found my way into dark comedy
Speaker 1: and I'm playing women of a certain age that are
Speaker 1: slightly homicider me. Whatever gets you the job, man, hey,
Speaker 1: But it all started with the Guilmarkers. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about John Waters a little bit. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: cry Baby, which was an iconic teen a breakout comedy
Speaker 1: that also featured Johnny Depp thirty two years ago. The
Speaker 1: fans still come up to over that role. Yeah, so Halloween, Um,
Speaker 1: every Halloween, I have people that dress up as Wanda
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, you know she's and sometimes groups of
Speaker 1: friends that will be the whole gang, somebody's the Johnny character,
Speaker 1: or somebody's you know, Ricky Lake, all of them they're
Speaker 1: they're the drapes and they post them to Instagram in
Speaker 1: different places and I love seeing, you know, just what
Speaker 1: they do with it at shows and conventions and those
Speaker 1: types of things which I know you've you've been to
Speaker 1: for Gilmal Girls and etcetera. Little tiny girls come with
Speaker 1: their mothers, like five or six, dressed like Wanda, and
Speaker 1: then you get the mothers that are to the grandmothers.
Speaker 1: So it's everywhere from five years old to sixty five
Speaker 1: years old. Interesting that after all this time that it's
Speaker 1: still you know, it made such that movie made such
Speaker 1: an impact on various generations. Uh time, it was a
Speaker 1: bomb at the box office. It was Johnny's first big,
Speaker 1: you know, mainstream um leading role. He'd been in Nightmare
Speaker 1: in the Street, but this was his first lead, and
Speaker 1: you know, it just it came out with a lot
Speaker 1: of hope and expectation and it just kind of it
Speaker 1: didn't find its audience. But years later it just did
Speaker 1: and it's become kind of well, it's iconic in a way.
Speaker 1: It it it has, it just keeps bubbling up. It's
Speaker 1: part of I think that's happened a lot actually with
Speaker 1: John Waters movies. Next year he's going to get his
Speaker 1: star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, which I'm wildly
Speaker 1: excited about because he's me six years old and the
Speaker 1: man of them so much great stuff and it's just
Speaker 1: such a great person. I don't know if you've read
Speaker 1: any of his books, but pretty amazing after all this
Speaker 1: long hiatus. He Um, I was just reading a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago that he's he's making his next movie, which
Speaker 1: is in development. It's Liar Mouth, based on his book.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with his books. So we've become, you know,
Speaker 1: we became dear friends throughout the years, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: that was something that was really pivotal in my life,
Speaker 1: my career and my god, I never realized how much
Speaker 1: impact Wanda Woodwork that character would have on me. Maybe
Speaker 1: you feel like that about um the Gilmore girls. I
Speaker 1: don't know. You just never know which role the fans
Speaker 1: will really identify you. As you know, the John Waters
Speaker 1: films when I was growing up were the there was
Speaker 1: sort of this urban, artistic, alternative lifestyle consciousness that that
Speaker 1: was seeping out into the suburbs and shocking all of us, like,
Speaker 1: just like, what was that? Didn't we just watched We're
Speaker 1: talking about my desperate living and pla pink flamingos and
Speaker 1: you know that kind of stuff that the character divine
Speaker 1: and the whole thing. I mean, nobody in the uh,
Speaker 1: nobody in the suburbs had really ever experienced anything quite
Speaker 1: like that. Um um, tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: what it was like working with Johnny Depp back then.
Speaker 1: He was really um, really quiet. He was a total gentleman.
Speaker 1: He was I never saw him be unkind to anyone.
Speaker 1: John Waters once described Johnny as the best looking gas
Speaker 1: station attendant that's still pumpter Gas. And I love that
Speaker 1: he put it that way because it was true. He
Speaker 1: had that kind of very laid back thing about him.
Speaker 1: Not to say that he wasn't serious about his work
Speaker 1: because he definitely was UM and I liked him. He
Speaker 1: was funny, he was charming, he was always a gentleman. Um.
Speaker 1: We we didn't none of us knew each other before that,
Speaker 1: and we had to walk in. We had a brief rehearsal,
Speaker 1: dance dance rehearsals and did all that because it was
Speaker 1: obviously a musical, and we really bonded during that time
Speaker 1: and it was just a lot of fun doing that.
Speaker 1: You have over acting credits, what's your favorite? All uh,
Speaker 1: different ones for different reasons, you know. I remember my
Speaker 1: time on Blade was was actually was on set for
Speaker 1: weeks doing the opening, but it was just really that
Speaker 1: one scene. But my time on Blade was amazing, just
Speaker 1: the stories and what was going on in the fact
Speaker 1: that it was you know, it was Marvel and they
Speaker 1: were doing this and it was, you know, the first
Speaker 1: of those types of movies that were happening. And Stephen
Speaker 1: Norington directed that film and he had UM He just
Speaker 1: really had it in his bones. It was the only
Speaker 1: time I ever worked with the director that he actually
Speaker 1: directed with headphones with music UM on while he was directing,
Speaker 1: and I just thought, what what is this about? But
Speaker 1: if you Watch Blade, the Original Blade. Um, you know
Speaker 1: there's the big rave, the blood scene and the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and the music goes crazy and it's just like all
Speaker 1: this stuff, it has a rhythm to it. The musician
Speaker 1: maybe you understand when I'm talking about that that movie.
Speaker 1: It's like the everything that it has a beta has
Speaker 1: a rhythm to it. And I think it was really
Speaker 1: because Norrington was so connected to that. He was literally
Speaker 1: so in sync with it that the characters moved that way,
Speaker 1: and and so that was an amazing experience. Playing Wanda
Speaker 1: was an amazing experience for for many reasons. I didn't
Speaker 1: know at the time that she would become like a
Speaker 1: style icon in a way and that the rockabilly community
Speaker 1: would embrace her as like, you know, sort of their
Speaker 1: mascot in a way. So that, Um, that's really delicious.
Speaker 1: I love seeing that makes me happy. Um. But personally
Speaker 1: that was a great experience for me because I met
Speaker 1: my first husband, or that was my practice marriage, I say,
Speaker 1: and so joking, but we're still friends. And you know,
Speaker 1: just John and that whole community of people and what
Speaker 1: he was doing then, I had so much respect for it,
Speaker 1: and it just was very cool in that way. And
Speaker 1: so I think there were a little there were pieces
Speaker 1: of different roles that um just fed my desire to
Speaker 1: be an actor because you get those little winds, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It makes you suffer through
Speaker 1: to the next level, right, It prepares you, know, well,
Speaker 1: what a journey? Yeah? All right, We're gonna play a
Speaker 1: little game called rapid Fire. Okay, I'm wanna ask you
Speaker 1: some questions and you have to answer them, uh rapidly,
Speaker 1: hence the name rapid Fire. Here we go. Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Here we go? How many cups of coffee you have
Speaker 1: in a day? Are your team Logan, Team Jesser, Team Dean?
Speaker 1: What is your favorite Gilmore Girls character? Uh? Will you?
Speaker 1: Of course? Thank you very much. What would you order it?
Speaker 1: Luke's Diner, the Cheeseburger? Would you rather go on a
Speaker 1: road trip with Taylor or Michelle? Michelle? Finish the lyric
Speaker 1: and where you lead, I will follow dot dot dot? Uh? Okay,
Speaker 1: I failed? Okay, Jackson's Vegetables or Suki's Baked Goods. Would
Speaker 1: you rather listen to Drella's Harp or the Troubadours cover
Speaker 1: songs Chilton, Prepper Stars, Hollow High. Alright, listen, it's been
Speaker 1: great catching up with you. We hope you come back
Speaker 1: on and hope you had a good time. Um, and
Speaker 1: keep on keeping on, you know you Uh I used
Speaker 1: to say, uh, you know, never stand between a Frenchman
Speaker 1: and his desire. Well, the same goes with what Tracy
Speaker 1: Lords wants to accomplish in this business. She's done everything, um,
Speaker 1: and she will continue to do everything and has graced
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