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Speaker 1: It's our final show from training camp this week, John

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Speaker 1: Murphy alongside Steve Tasker. Quarterback competition is still going on.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to a J. Mccaron about what his

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Speaker 1: gonna do that at right at twelve thirty. One of

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Speaker 1: wide receiver group. We'll talk with Brandon Rightley at one

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Speaker 1: thirty this after lots of rule changes this year, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to a rookie lead referee in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League, Sean Smith. He's gonna sit down with us

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Speaker 1: today as well. And an inside look at the brand

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Speaker 1: new series coming up Starday next week. Buffalo Bills Embedded,

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Speaker 1: a new series that gives you a behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: all excess look at the Bills at training camp. That

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Speaker 1: We are again Bill Training Camp. Good afternoon, everybody, John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio inside the pemccono Pavilion,

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Speaker 1: overlooking Grownie Stadium, Saint John Fisher College, Pittsburgh, New York

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Speaker 1: the place to be for the Buffalo Bills, at least today.

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Speaker 1: It was Steve the last day of the week here

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Speaker 1: for us. Yeah, and it was a really cool day

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Speaker 1: to be here. They had The practice was nice, it

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Speaker 1: was short and Chris, yesterday we had talked about on

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott had warned everybody that was he was gonna

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Speaker 1: challenge these guys to see what they were made of.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday was kind of one of the deep heart of

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Speaker 1: And I do I'm adverse to making sweeping generalizations, but

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Speaker 1: I will say this, and you pointed it out a

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Speaker 1: where we were a week ago? First practice? It was

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Speaker 1: that's good to see. It's encouraging. Yeah, they've improved to

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Speaker 1: and is looking better and better. It is day seven

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Speaker 1: of the Bills training camp sponsored by Connors and Ferris,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy Steve Tasker here until three o'clock this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants to know about the about competition, it's still ongoing.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anything is settled yet. But and again

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Speaker 1: AJ McCarron is the guy that the coaching staff looks

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Speaker 1: the forecast, but the Bills dive dots that pullet again.

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Speaker 1: Players are here. They'll do a walkthrough later this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: They'll have meaning time tonight. They have a walkthrough here

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Speaker 1: tomorrow morning and then they drive back to Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night is the return of the Blue and the

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Speaker 1: practice at the new era of field tomorrow night, six fifteen.

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Speaker 1: pretty good one. We talked a lot about A. J. McCarron.

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Speaker 1: appearance last year after so long, and the and the

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Speaker 1: way the team got in and how fun it was

427
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Speaker 1: to cheer for this team even from afar, the things

428
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Speaker 1: that happened to the with Sean McDermott Brandon being the

429
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Speaker 1: moves they made last year, how much the team overachieved

430
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Speaker 1: last year's interest is really uh at a at a

431
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Speaker 1: generational high. I mean, it's been twenty twenty five years,

432
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Speaker 1: thirty years, uh since the team has had this much

433
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Speaker 1: excitement coming into training camp. So it is a little

434
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Speaker 1: bit I'm sure rewarding for for the organization to see

435
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Speaker 1: the fans jump back on board with this club after

436
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 1: struggling so long. And I think the cornerback competition draws

437
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 1: people here too. People want to see for themselves look

438
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 1: like it's it's a fun team to cover for you

439
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: and I and guys in the media. Um, there's a

440
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Speaker 1: lot of activity, a lot of questions that are being

441
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Speaker 1: answered and UM and of course at this time point

442
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Speaker 1: in history, our access is unpresent. People. Can you come,

443
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: you stand here and watch it, you know, and that

444
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 1: hasn't always been the case. It's there's a lot going

445
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 1: on here. It's been fun to be around this training

446
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: camp and the players and coaches are starting to answer

447
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 1: a lot of the questions we've we've been asking for

448
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: months now. And the team is gonna be I think,

449
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 1: a lot like last year's team in a couple of respects.

450
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Speaker 1: One is they're gonna be easy to cheer for. And

451
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 1: the people are getting their money's worth here, which is

452
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Speaker 1: free at training camp. Right, there's no money changing an

453
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Speaker 1: It's a great set up here. And we got another

454
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks here at training camp. Camp ends two

455
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Speaker 1: weeks from yesterday. Our topic today, you know, we talk

456
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Speaker 1: about it and Steve and I did not talk about

457
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Speaker 1: it in the car on the way down here because

458
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Speaker 1: we drove separately and I missed you Steve on the

459
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 1: drive down here today. Yeah, we should have just myself

460
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: called hands free and just chit chatted the whole way

461
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Speaker 1: The whole drive. We've missed an opportunity there. Problem we

462
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 1: had to go our separate ways after practice, so we

463
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: drove separately. Yeah, we got it. Yeah, we've got stuff

464
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Speaker 1: going on and stuff. We had stuff. But our Twitter

465
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Speaker 1: poll today, and it's an interesting question, this one. I'm

466
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Speaker 1: going to give credit to our producer, Jay Harris. I

467
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Speaker 1: believe this is no is it your question? Steve? Kind

468
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: of an amalgamation of two guys head and I'm washing

469
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Speaker 1: my hands in this one. Here we go Twitter poll today.

470
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Speaker 1: Can the current young core on the Buffalo Bill's roster

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Speaker 1: lead the team to consistent playoff appearances? Now, let's break

472
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Speaker 1: this down a little bit. Who do we mean by

473
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Speaker 1: current young core? I think here's who we mean, and

474
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking young Deon Dawkins second year, Josh Allen rookie

475
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Speaker 1: on defense. I'm thinking for me and Edmonds rookie, Matt

476
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Speaker 1: Milano's second year, trudevious White second year. Who else would

477
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Speaker 1: you consider part of the young core? Though? John Miller, well, yeah,

478
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Speaker 1: you know he was in the lineup then out of

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Speaker 1: the lineup last year. Welcome back. In one of Bill's

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Speaker 1: live John Murpeing Steve Tasker at Bills training camp, joined

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Speaker 1: by a quarterback AJ McCarron and Trip McCarron. Hi, Trip,

482
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Speaker 1: how are you? Thanks for being with us here today?

483
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: Two years old? He is tripping out here a lot

484
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Speaker 1: Aj during camp. So far, he's only been out here

485
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Speaker 1: a couple of times. Catch Yeah, Yeah, he's a smart

486
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: kid already. Cody commission show up when you need to trip.

487
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Speaker 1: Other than that case, stay away. So yeah. I usually

488
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Speaker 1: chill at the at our house or if we're in

489
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Speaker 1: town at the hotel. Did you have some sort of

490
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Speaker 1: blue ice? I had gatorade. Gatorade? Okay, I can see

491
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Speaker 1: it on your face. Trip trip is two when you

492
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Speaker 1: have another one on the way, yeplation, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to you. Today's practice is a little

494
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Speaker 1: easier than you not easier maybe, but certainly shorter than yesterday.

495
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Speaker 1: But you also spent some more time in the red zone.

496
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Speaker 1: Murph and I were talking all three of you guys,

497
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Speaker 1: you and Josh and Nate the red zone. You guys

498
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Speaker 1: are lighting it up. I mean, what do you think

499
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Speaker 1: the reason for that is? I mean, I think everybody's

500
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Speaker 1: just taking care of the ball um, doing a good

501
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: job of taking what they give us and h Mommy's

502
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Speaker 1: over there, buddy. And yeah, I think just taking care

503
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Speaker 1: of the ball and taking what the defense gives us,

504
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, I think when you do that,

505
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Speaker 1: everything else gels kind of gels together. And we were

506
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Speaker 1: talking to Brandon Riley, but you got some big targets

507
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: and Charles Clay and of course Calvin Benjamin and also

508
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: Croom made a nice catch today. All those and Logan Thomas.

509
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Speaker 1: These guys are all nineteen feet tall. Yeah, and you

510
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Speaker 1: guys are doing a really nice job. The throws you

511
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Speaker 1: made today were really it was good at throws. I've

512
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Speaker 1: seen you make all the camp and he'd had like

513
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Speaker 1: five of them in a row. It was it looked

514
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Speaker 1: great today. Appreciate. Talk to us a little bit about

515
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Speaker 1: the differences for the general public. Why is the red

516
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Speaker 1: zone different so different, and why is it such a

517
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Speaker 1: situation that everybody practices so much. Yeah, well, I mean

518
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Speaker 1: it's tougher. Um. You know, any anytime you get down

519
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: low in the red zone, the filled shrinks. Um, So

520
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: everything happens a lot quicker. Um. You know, eleven guys

521
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Speaker 1: in tight space, so the windows are smaller. Um, you

522
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: can't take the lid off that defense with it. Yeah,

523
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Speaker 1: exactly so um and everybody kind of play and on

524
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: defense knows that. So they played to their spots. Um,

525
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: and it makes it tough. But you know, we have

526
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Speaker 1: a really good size um out wide and then with

527
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Speaker 1: the tight end, so UM, hopefully we can just you know,

528
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Speaker 1: keep getting better, but keep using that to our advantage. AJ.

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Speaker 1: All of that was on display. There was a seven

530
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Speaker 1: on seven session down in near the one end zone

531
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Speaker 1: over this side of the field, and on three it

532
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: was almost three straight plays. I think it hit Calvin

533
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Speaker 1: Benjamin and went up in a high point of the ball.

534
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Speaker 1: You got Curly at the one who scooted in the

535
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Speaker 1: end zone, and then he got Charles Clay. But I

536
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Speaker 1: said to Steve, we're standing right there, said mccaren is

537
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: firing lasers here. Three great throws and almost three great

538
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: catches bank bank bang. Yeah. Um, you know I felt good,

539
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Speaker 1: Uh all camp Um, you know, of course you're gonna

540
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Speaker 1: have uh interception every once in a while, but I don't,

541
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Speaker 1: I don't. I feel like you know, even yesterday interception

542
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Speaker 1: was on fourth down. So you gotta take a chance

543
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: to that's two minute driving to try to win the game.

544
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: You gotta you know, you can't take a sack, can't

545
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Speaker 1: throw the ball away. Um. And then today the ball

546
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: gets batted up. Um, it gets tipped at the d

547
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: line and tipped off shoulders and then up in the

548
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: air again and then they dive in. So yeah, UM,

549
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: but I've I've felt really well the other you know,

550
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: those two things. But I've felt really well about how

551
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm throwing the ball all camp, how I feel about

552
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: this offense. UM. I really spent a lot of time

553
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: this offseason. Um, you know, studying and trying to know

554
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: the ins and outs of this offense. And uh, I

555
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: think it's paying off for me. When practice is over.

556
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Speaker 1: What do you use to determine whether you had a

557
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: good practice? I mean when and when do you do

558
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Speaker 1: it right after? Like now are you thinking it? Or

559
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: maybe later today when you look at video or Um.

560
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean I think you always think about it. Uh.

561
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: But UM, I mean I think just executing the offense

562
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: is the easiest way. It doesn't mean you know, having

563
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: the big play all the time, taking what they give

564
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: you or his offense and the chain steady moving and

565
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: uh are you getting getting everybody in the right spots

566
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: the right protection? Um? Knowing are hot stuff like that. So, um,

567
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: you know I've I've felt really well about it. So

568
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: before talk a little bit about did you have a

569
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Speaker 1: chance to go down? Because day Ball, his offense was

570
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: in Alabama last year won a national championship and you've

571
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Speaker 1: got you know, obviously know a lot of people in

572
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: that program and it what did they tell you about

573
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: him before? I didn't talk to anybody really yeah, Um,

574
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: you didn't do any scouting work on him? No. Uh,

575
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: I don't really go back to Bama a whole lot

576
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: um as in like the university. I'm always so busy

577
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I have my own family and been

578
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: a while too. I mean it's not like you just

579
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: exactly so um and all you know a lot of

580
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: my coaches, I only know a couple there, um still

581
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: with Saving and Cochrane. Um, maybe a couple other. But uh,

582
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: other than that, I mean it's all new faces coming

583
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: in and out every year. Um there and uh, but no,

584
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: I didn't do any scouting. Um. I had met him once,

585
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: Uh when I went back to check on my restaurant

586
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: and and stop buying, had maybe a two minute conversation

587
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: with him. U. But other than that, UM, I just

588
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: tried to learn on the go. Yeah, with a J

589
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: McCarn Bill's quarterback after today's Thursday practice here at training camp. Um,

590
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: it's a quarterback competition. And even though you're with ones

591
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: much of the time today and Peterman and then Josh,

592
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: it seems like they've done a They've they've tried really

593
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: hard to get you equivalent number of reps all three

594
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: of you. At what point do you feel like, Okay,

595
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: if I'm going to be the guy, I need to

596
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: get more practice reps. Is there is that coming down

597
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: the road here? Do you think her? Well, Um, you

598
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: never know. I mean it's above my pay grade and

599
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: uh put together and um, you know, it's just not

600
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: a call that I make. So I'm not even gonna

601
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: put mental focus on it. Uh. I just go out

602
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: execute the plays I have, you know, however many reps

603
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: it is, and kind of just stay in that mindframe

604
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: because when you don't stay that mind frame, you you

605
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: allow you know, like I say all the time, mental clutter. Um,

606
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, not only for yourself, but then it affects

607
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: how you play. It affects how you treat other people.

608
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: It affects how you treat the offense as a group, Um,

609
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't want that to happen, So

610
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: I kind of just focus on on my plays, what

611
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: I have to do, um, the type of player and

612
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: teammate and quarterback I need to be, and then um,

613
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: whenever they decide that uh less what I mean, the

614
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: only thing you can do is play the cards you're

615
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: dealt and playing them to the best possibility possible way

616
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: you can. When do you do you think this afternoon?

617
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: As you've got to get to go through these meetings today,

618
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna start to find out what the form and

619
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: function is going to be with this scrimmage tomorrow? Uh

620
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: have you guys? Yeah, because I haven't even had conversation

621
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, it's just gonna be another practice. Yeah,

622
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: I have no y'all's guess is as good as mine. Um,

623
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Speaker 1: what's the schedule for tomorrow? You guys been enlightened about that?

624
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: When you head over there? I think we have a

625
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: walk through in the morning and then drive over. Um.

626
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: But that's the only thing I know as him now.

627
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: And then, Uh, the one thing I am for sure

628
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: about I get to stay at home tomorrow and bad

629
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: seeing my little guy and the wife and spend time

630
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: with them. Hey, Jay might ask you about your your

631
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: time at Cincinnati. Four years there and you're backing up

632
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. Um. Depending on how this quarterback situation evolves, here,

633
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: somebody is likely to back up somebody else obviously here

634
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: is it possible say, for instance, this is only hypothetical,

635
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a back up here, not number one quarterback.

636
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: When the season starts, you've been in that position playing

637
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: behind somebody. Can you get better if you're not getting

638
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Speaker 1: a significant number of reps during the regular season? And

639
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: what did you take out of your four years? Listen,

640
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm a true believer in young guys sitting and learning, um,

641
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: because I think the success rate skyrockets when that happens,

642
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: because you get to learn from other mistakes or you

643
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: get to learn how to do things the right way

644
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: and not I have to always learn on your own

645
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: as you go. I think when you look at the

646
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: success rate over the years of first year starter quarter

647
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks, success rates pretty low rum and then it

648
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: ends up being guys you know, not only low, but

649
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: guys end up being out of the league at a

650
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: higher rate. So um, I think it's uh. I think

651
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: it's you can always learn, for sure, and and and

652
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: study and learn that way, and uh, I think it helps.

653
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: So there is value if you're not playing. There is

654
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: value for a quarterback to be around watch another guy work.

655
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. I mean I learned a ton

656
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: from uh Andy and uh and then just getting to

657
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: watch him play and uh and sitting on the sideline

658
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: and kind of learning you know, when he did right

659
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: and when he made mistakes. Um like that. So yeah,

660
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: because his play both good and bad, benefits you. Right.

661
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: And if you if you can take a mental and

662
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: it's you have to be really good. It's sitting back

663
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: and putting yourself in that spot and say I've got

664
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: to and going through the mental rep that it is,

665
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: um and getting something out of it without having done

666
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: it physically. And you got to be master at that

667
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: for sure. Um. And that's that's the big thing. Uh,

668
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: you have to be good at, like you said, getting

669
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: mental reps um kind of visualizing everything as it happens,

670
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: uh for yourself. Hey, all right, he went with the

671
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: ball here, Like is that what I what I would

672
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: have done? Or am I gonna look this guy off

673
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: and possibly, you know, maybe come back to the other side,

674
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: or hey, am I gonna use a different cadence right

675
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: here so I can try to see the disguise of

676
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: the blitz over here and maybe they'll show it, um

677
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: right when I have a later snap count. So things

678
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: like that, Um, you know, and you have to become

679
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: good at and you have to work at and uh

680
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: and it helps. So yeah, you have you good at

681
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: it without ever running through it a lot of times exactly, Heydy.

682
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: We gotta let you know. A couple of weeks ago

683
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: on the show, we had NASCAR driver Clinton Boyer on

684
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Speaker 1: Yeah Clinch huge you Haveabama fan? Do you know him

685
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: at all? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I've known Clint for a

686
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah. He's racing down Watkins Glenn this Sunday.

687
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Speaker 1: I guess he's driving the pacecar mister Dryer. Yeah, face

688
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: car driver. That's awesome. I think it's gonna be awesome. Yeah. Well,

689
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: he's got to go for pace car driving lessons first thing. Something. Yeah,

690
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: it's it's not hard, but it's not. No, I drove

691
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: the pacecar at Talladega. Okay, all right, um, and so

692
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna be able to right Yeah, I mean

693
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: it's see I was thinking you know you wear a helmet.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the pace speed is there, right

695
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: right right, um, but I mean it at the most

696
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: it'll be seventy probably do that. I mean, yeah, that's perfect. Yeah,

697
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: because you know he put a helmet on the NFL.

698
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: You know, you're kind of planning on running into At

699
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Speaker 1: least I was planning on run into something if I

700
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Speaker 1: put that helmet on a NASCAR, last thing I want

701
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: to do is running too. See, I never put a

702
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: helmet on. You didn't, you would drove a pacecard, no helmet, yeah, yeah,

703
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 1: sacrily uh no talladega um, and what was the past

704
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: sixty five? It's sixty five there, So you just put

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00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: it on cruise control and you you kind of, um,

706
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: just go and yeah. But that morning I got to

707
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: go out and it was, hey, just learn whenever we're

708
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: gonna pill off, and when we pill off, you gun

709
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: it down there, uh pits and uh and try to

710
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, as fast as you can, try to beat

711
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: him to the other side, and then we'll pull off

712
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: into right. Yeah, just in case there's a wreck. Um.

713
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: They starting to wreck at the beginning and they slide

714
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: down well. Uh. And then after that he said, hey,

715
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: you open it up. You want to take a couple

716
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: of apps around and uh, they had a special order

717
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: in mustang, I mean really fast and we were doing

718
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: probably uh one hundred sixty, one hundred and sixty, yeah

719
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: around you were driving on hundred sixty. Yeah, I don't

720
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: know about Dad Murphy. It was fine. We gotta triumph.

721
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: What could go wrong? Right? Think somebody if you're not here,

722
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: mar I'll be wearing a helmet if I go one sixty.

723
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,479
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. And thanks for good great stuff

724
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: coming over. Bill's quarterback joining US year, John Murphy's team

725
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Speaker 1: Tasker one, Bill's line from Bill's training camp. I'm Buffalo

726
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: Bill's radio Welcome back one Bills five, John Murphy's team

727
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: Casker and uh Orchard and Orchard park or in Rochester

728
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: A training camp, Pittsburgh, New York. Hey, Uh, a little

729
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: technical difficulty a couple of segments, go apologize for that,

730
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: But you just got out of the A J. Mccarren interview.

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00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: He's a pretty good guy, and I really liked his son.

732
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: Trip was a good guy as well. Yeah, Trip was good.

733
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: It was interesting as well because you get the idea

734
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: of kind of personality that meant and his personality kind

735
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: of mimics what we were talking about him as a quarterback,

736
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: very steady, he'd take the ups, doesn't let those affect him,

737
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: and the downs don't affect him. Just keep on keeping

738
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: on and and it seems well, you know, the guy

739
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: won three national championships and also back to back, so

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00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: it served him. Well, that's mentality confident too, don't you think.

741
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's played a little bit in the league,

742
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL, four or five starts, you said, he's

743
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: got the national championship at Alabama. He is very confident

744
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: in who he is and what he can bring to

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00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: a team. That comes across when you talk about absolutely,

746
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: I think that does come across. And when you talk

747
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: to him, he says a lot of the right He

748
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: says all the right things you want from your starting quarterback.

749
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Speaker 1: Has he He has a ton of acknowledge, ton of confidence,

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00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: and he's not afraid to talk about it. Although you

751
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: think you can tell from the interview he's a quiet guy.

752
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: It's not like he's one of those guys that you

753
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: know up there pound in his chest in the in

754
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: the locker room or in the in the huddle. But

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00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: he does have that confidence, and I think, you know,

756
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: some guys get criticized for having too much confidence that game.

757
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's part of the job description

758
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: in the NFL and that and that's one of the things.

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00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: You know, in the interview he told us. The thing

760
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: that's different some of the young guys who have told

761
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: us were talked to. Uh, Brandon Riley. Confidence is a

762
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: factor and it's something that guys feel and it affects them.

763
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: So when you've got it, it helps. Hey. Our Twitter

764
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: poll today we started to set this up and then

765
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: we had a little technical issue, but we're back. Our

766
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: Twitter poll today deals with kind of the overall place

767
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: of the Bills and where they're headed. Uh. You know,

768
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: we're a week into this training came you get a

769
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: sense of who some of the young core players are,

770
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: the current young core on the Bill's roster. Can that

771
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: current young core lead the team to consistent playoff appearances?

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00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: Sixty nine percent of you say yes on Twitter, Thirty

773
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: one percent of you say no. I'm looking for maybe

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00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: it's not an offering we make because I just don't

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00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: have a true sense I think of I mean, I

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00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: could name you know, Trey White, part of the current

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00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: young core. I think Dion Dawkins is part of the

778
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: current young core on this team, obviously, Tremaine Edmunds, Josh Allen.

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00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: Other than that, I'd be hard pressed to tell you

780
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: who you know Harrison Phillips White and tell her all

781
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: these guys, there's a lot of question marks there, but

782
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: they are young and they do see and this is uh.

783
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: It does look to be a draft where they're gonna

784
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: get some guys who are going to be contributors, but

785
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: you're along your lines. We get a tweet from Ryan

786
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: who said he voted no for simple fact that the

787
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball doesn't have enough young players

788
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: in important roles. You get running back, wide receiver, O line,

789
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: but with two or three pieces, it would be a

790
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: yes for sure, pointing to the defensive side of the

791
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: balls being pretty much up and running, and he's right, Uh,

792
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, you're depending on a

793
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: guy like Lashawn McCoy, Charles Clay, guys like that with

794
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: a little more experience, not young guy, not young guys,

795
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: and that does that gives people pause, particularly when it's

796
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: a league where it's a throwing league and you're kind

797
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: of looking to score twenty eight thirty points a game

798
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: to be consistently good. I think that's where I'm at too.

799
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: I look for the young core players on offense, and

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00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: they're difficult to identify. Dean Dawkins is one. I think.

801
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Josh Allen will be one. I mean, if

802
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: he is. If he's not, rather that'll be a problem.

803
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: Even if it's not Josh Allen, even if it's Aj

804
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: mccaren or Nate Peterman, they're still young players that that

805
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: you're you know, so they're young. AJ mccarrienson his fifth year,

806
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 1: going into his fifth year. He's gonna in a quarterback

807
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: that's right in the middle, so he I don't know

808
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: if you can strictly consider him the same way you'd

809
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: consider some of these younger guys. But no matter which

810
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: quarterback they take, And that's this keeps a crossing my mindset. Really,

811
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: do do people really care which quarterback? If they have

812
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: a quarterback who's playing, well, who cares what his name is?

813
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a it's so important, you know. Yeah,

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00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: it'd be nice if it was Josh Allen. But if

815
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: it's AJ mccaren, he goes out and throws for forty

816
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: two hundred yards, and I don't know if I can

817
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: go along with that team because they traded significant assid

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00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: to get to Josh Allen. It's important that he is

819
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: the guy. Maybe not? Why is that? Because they traded

820
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: signaggant assets to get him. He's a seventh overall pick.

821
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: They traded a lot. They gave up a lot to

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00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: get the number seven. To get Josh Allen. They need

823
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: him to be a young core player. And maybe not

824
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: September ninth this year, but next year. You're looking at

825
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: it the wrong way because listen, if the if the

826
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: position you traded all those assets to get turns out good,

827
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: no matter who it is, what do you care? I

828
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: care about all those assets they could have had instead

829
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen. So if they've so, if you just

830
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: flip those two guys out and you get the same

831
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: career from this point forward. If if Josh Allen gives

832
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: you twelve years and AJ mccarneny is up playing seventeen years,

833
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 1: but it's the same career, you're bummed because it's AJ

834
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: McCarron going to Super Bowls and not Josh Allen. I'm

835
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: stunned if I get it. But I don't think my point,

836
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: my point was happening. You really, if somebody emerges from

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00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: this camp and it is a great quarterback, that's really

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00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: what you're looking for. Which of those certainly it will

839
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: be a wasted pick if it's not Josh Allen, which

840
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: those who cares, if you're if you get the guy.

841
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: Which of those three has a potential to emerge from

842
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: this camp as a great quarterback? There was only one,

843
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: all three one. All three of them have that potential.

844
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: We've seen, We've seen worse athletes, worse arms than those three.

845
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: Any of those three play well in this league, I'd

846
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: have to think about that. That's a different issue. Look

847
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: if if if Josh Allen is not the guy that

848
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: they think he is, that's a problem. They'll tell you

849
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: that's a problem. They traded all those assets, they moved up,

850
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: they moved down last year in the draft. That's that's

851
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: been a year plus project to get to number seven

852
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: in the draft this past April and get Josh Allen.

853
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: But that's a problem that completely goes away if one

854
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: of those other two guys is that guy but also

855
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: gone away or the assets it took to get him,

856
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: but those are gone anyway. No, they're not. Well they're yeah,

857
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: they are. They're gone. They were gone to get Josh

858
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: Allen to get to number seven, but they were gone

859
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: to find that guy. Yeah. So so if he's not

860
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: the guy, they didn't find him. They looked into it

861
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: with somebody else, which is fine. Again, I think, there

862
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: you go. It's fine. You're in fantasy land. I think

863
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: that either of those two are going to be a

864
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: great NFL quarterback. You're fantasized. I got we got. We

865
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: got into this discussion because it's my take that if

866
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: you got a three man quarterback race, you want somebody

867
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: to emerge and be great. You really do, obviously, obviously,

868
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: and it'd be great if it's the youngest guy, so

869
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: he plays longer. It's important, not just great, it's important.

870
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: That is irrelevant. Now I think it's irrelevant how he

871
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: got the guy. I don't not with all the assets

872
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: that went to get that's what it took to get

873
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: the guy. Yes, well, so you better make sure you

874
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: better get some return on all that investment. That's what

875
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Well, let's get a phone call in here.

876
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: Jose is on the line, Jose from Buffalo. Go ahead,

877
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: you're on the air. The honeymoon is over. You guys

878
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: are arguing some miracle. He's wrong. That's why the honeymoon

879
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: I want. I was just thinking about, what can we

880
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: get a clarification on this, Uh, the young core, because

881
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: if you want to have clarification on it, if you

882
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: has some clarification, wouldn't you want to throw trade? Uh

883
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer And they're also I mean

884
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: they're young, they're not going nowhere for a while. And

885
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: as far as off, yeah, I mean that's yeah, just

886
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: on the brink of the prime of their career, no question.

887
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: Let's let's get a ruling on that. Producer, Jay Harris,

888
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: it was your Twitter point. Micah Hide and Jordan Pong

889
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: Are they Oh, Jay's gonna turn up as Mike this

890
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: is big? Does this work? Yes? Are they young? Jordan

891
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: his young core. They're veterans on the team one year,

892
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: Hides in a fifth year veteran. Point, they're both in

893
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: your fifth year. They're both in their fifth year. That's

894
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: off your rookie contract. That's not young. Sorry, Ah, that's that.

895
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: That that's belo all right now thinking about that, he said,

896
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: that's all right, Yeah, I get you. So if they

897
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: don't count, then it's not that they can't be a

898
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: part of the start of it. That's for sure. They're

899
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: gonna be here for the next three or four years anyway,

900
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: I mean whatever, right, yeah, And once again we have

901
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: problems with the phrasing of our Twitter poll. Right listen.

902
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: Twitter poll is there for the for the fans, not

903
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: for for you and me. I mean, we're the ones

904
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: that have to where we are. We are asking for

905
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: their input and they're giving it to us. Thank you, appreciate,

906
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: thank you. We're gonna take a break and we come

907
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: back after the top of the hour. We're gonna be

908
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: joined by Sean Smith, NFL referee. He's here with his

909
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: crew at camp and here with us for a couple

910
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: of minutes to go over some of the rules changes

911
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL. John Murphy Steve Tasker back with morn

912
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: a moment one Bill's Live from Bill's Training Camp on

913
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio Healo Bill's Radio Network Stories update the

914
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: update from training camp. Another practice this morning for the

915
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, wrapping up their work in Rochester this week

916
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: with the morning session to close walk through session here

917
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: at Saint John Fisher tomorrow, then at nighttime practice tomorrow

918
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: night at New We're a Field the Return of the

919
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: Red and the Blue six fifteen tomorrow night at Orchard Park.

920
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: You need a ticket to attend, and we're told the

921
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: tickets have all been distributed. Buffalo offense some good moments today.

922
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: Hey J McCarron, our guest last hour, got most of

923
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: the work of the first team, a great red zone

924
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 1: session and seven on seven work bills. Gave Kyle Williams

925
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: a veteran day off today, and rookie Harrison and Phillips

926
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: got most of his first team snaps. And it was

927
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: a maintenance sayoff for veteran Cornervonte Davis. Around the NFL

928
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame Game tonight, the Chicago Bears

929
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: with quarterback Mitchell Trubisky, meet the Baltimore Ravens in the

930
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen Hall of Fame Game tonight, eight o'clock tonight

931
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: at Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium in Canton, Ohio.

932
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: You can see the game on NBC. The New York

933
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: Giants have opened contract talks with star receiver Odell Beckham junior.

934
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: ESPN reports had happened earlier this week that came after

935
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: Giants owner John Marra admitted the two sides had not

936
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: talked about a new deal for the last several months,

937
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: but he said they'd be speaking sooner rather than later.

938
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: The Patriots filled their receiver opening today by signing on

939
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: Eric Decker, veteran wide receiver. We're down for the Patriots

940
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: earlier this week. They have a need with all the

941
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: injuries they've had. Eric Decker, thirty one years of age,

942
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: caught fifty four passes for Tennessee last year. Seattle wide

943
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: receiver Doug Baldwin's knee injury could force him to miss most,

944
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: if not all, of the preseason. Doctors hopeful they'll be

945
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: able to return for the start of the regular season.

946
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: And Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer placed on paid

947
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: administrative lead late yesterday as the school announced it's investigating

948
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: a claim that several people close to the coach knew

949
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: of an allegation of domestic violence against one of the

950
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: assistant coaches. Urban Meyer on paid administrative league. And that

951
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: is the update from Bill's training camp. On one, Bill's

952
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: Live for a Great Times All Time. Welcome back to

953
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: the show. Renumber two. John Murphy Steve taking with a

954
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: special guest, NFL referee Sean Smith joins us here at

955
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: our broadcast location at Camp Sean. Thanks to Meetri, thanks

956
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: for coming by. Thanks glad to be here. You're in

957
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: the second of three straight days here with the Buffalo Bills, right.

958
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: You guys got in yesterday, Yes, we came in yesterday.

959
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: We worked the practice yesterday morning, and got in a

960
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: little bit work today and then we'll be here tomorrow

961
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: for the night scrimmage at the stadium. One of the

962
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: things that what you had to do while you were

963
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: here is given the big presentation video and the team

964
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: meaning about catch rule, helmet rule, all of that stuff.

965
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: How did that go? It went? It went pretty good.

966
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: It was very interactive and as some of the veteran

967
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: guys on our crew mentioned, this was probably the most

968
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: interactive training video or training presentation rules presentation I'm sorry

969
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: that we've had, but it was very engaging with the players.

970
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: We had a lot of good dialogue going, you know,

971
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: just understanding how to officiate it and how it's written

972
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: in the rule book, and you know what players are allowed,

973
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: what they can and cannot do. So I know it

974
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: got good. And he showed along with a coupled with

975
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: a bunch of video clips. So yes, no, yes, no,

976
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: this is what we would call, this what we wouldn't

977
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: call and you try and do that as comprehensively as

978
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: you can. It's really I've been through those before as

979
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: a player and it's it does help. And you got

980
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: good feedback from the team. Yes, yes we did, because

981
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean, basically, the rule is for the safety of

982
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: the players, sure first and foremost, and that that's what

983
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: we wanted to get across to the players. This is

984
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: for your own safety. So the way the rule is written,

985
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: especially the helmet rule, is that you can't lure your head,

986
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: initiate contact, and make contacts. So if you do those

987
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: three things, then you potentially put yourself in the position

988
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: to be have a file. And the big question mark

989
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: is like our running back puts his head down, goes

990
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: through the line of scrimmage, if offensive lineman, all that stuff.

991
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like we see that all the time,

992
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: Like how are you not gonna call it? So what

993
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: clarify how that's going to be differentiated. I think the

994
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: big thing is that you can still lure your head,

995
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: but you can't initiate contact with your helmet. So if

996
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: you keep your head up, if you're running through the

997
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: hole like most of the running backs do, you gotta

998
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: be where you can't, you know, initiate contact with your

999
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: helmet to potentially run over a defender. And but you're

1000
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: allowed to lure your head to protect yourself as well.

1001
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: So if you go in the hole or if you

1002
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: are a runner and you feel the defender coming, you

1003
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: are allowed to protect yourself and laura your head as

1004
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: long as you don't initiate contact when you're doing it.

1005
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: So you can lower your head to protect yourself, but

1006
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: you can't like lower your head and run at somebody.

1007
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, then your your helmet be that first point

1008
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: of contact. That's where the foul would try. When the

1009
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: rule was first talked about, when it first came out,

1010
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: when it was a proof, they talked about the ejection.

1011
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: What are the standards for to enable an ejection for

1012
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: lowering the helmet? What would have what would you have

1013
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: to see? So there there the point where it becomes

1014
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,479
Speaker 1: an ejectable. A disqualification is when you're it's an egregious act,

1015
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: when the player has had an opportunity to do something

1016
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: other than lower's head and he you know, basically it's

1017
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to say his intent it is to punish,

1018
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: but too when when he's law in his head and

1019
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: he's going in, you know, like a missile at a

1020
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: player and he's taking you know, he's lining the guy up.

1021
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: That that's that's what they're trying to get out. And

1022
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: there were a couple of plays that we showed um

1023
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: during the video yesterday that we're disqualifiable file. Typically for

1024
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: people who wife seen a couple of those videos, it's

1025
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: when the guy's kind of starting and the guy comes

1026
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: to clean up, you know, it's kind of getting one

1027
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: extra shot. He's not down, he's not completely tackled, but

1028
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: he's kind of held up that second guy in who's

1029
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: coming in and trying and deliver something that, you know,

1030
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: just to finish him off and maybe not the balls,

1031
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: but that's what you're really kind of cleaning up more

1032
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: than anything, Am I right? Yes? The guys that that

1033
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: that runner is now defenseless and then here's that second

1034
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: defender coming in like a missile with the crown of

1035
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: his helmet and then in trying to like you said,

1036
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: calls a fumble, but hit that that punishing blow. How difficult.

1037
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be And I know the players are thinking

1038
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: about this third and eight guy catches it at seven

1039
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: and a half and they're coming in, they and it's

1040
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: a you know, it's a muscle up. You got to

1041
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: stop the guy from getting that extra half yard. Sure,

1042
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: that's when guys kind of forget and they go, I

1043
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: gotta you know, that's the best way to stop him

1044
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: is to go you know, and that's going players will

1045
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: yeah like a missile. And you know what we talked

1046
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: about is just trying to get that that shoulder in there,

1047
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: trying to use that shoulder to make that make that

1048
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: shoulder to be your initial point of contact and not

1049
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: the not the crown of your helmet, because players, like

1050
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: you said, if it's these guys are both going to

1051
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: the line of gain and you know, and they're gonna

1052
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: meet there nine times out of ten, someone's probably going

1053
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: to lower their head. So we're saying, use use your

1054
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: shoulder for that. Sean, you've been in the league as

1055
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: an official for a couple of years, and I wonder

1056
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: if if you foresee this rule going kind of the way.

1057
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: When they kind of short they made smaller the target zone.

1058
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: It took a while, but over the last couple of

1059
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: years you can see NFL players have adapted to that.

1060
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: They may over a year or season or two, adapt

1061
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: to the helmet rule the same way. Huh. Yeah, I

1062
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: mean these guys are I mean, you guys know, these

1063
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: are the best athletes in the world and they can

1064
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: adjust on a dime. And um, I think it's you know,

1065
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: it's something new. It's something that they have to adjust

1066
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: to and we have to adjust to its officiating as well,

1067
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: because this is not something that we have called in

1068
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: the past. But I think, you know, as we get

1069
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: more film, as we see you know, we get through

1070
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: the preseason, I think everyone will adjust and you know,

1071
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: we won't be talking about this right now. I've got

1072
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: the real question that you know we've been. Everybody wants

1073
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: to know what's a catch? We have a new language anyway, Yes, yes, yes,

1074
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: So I mean the catch rule now is it's written

1075
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: that you know you basically it's three elements as well,

1076
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: where you got to have control, you got to have

1077
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: two feet down or a body part or another body part.

1078
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: And if you make a football move, so if you

1079
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: potentially try to extend the ball to make the line

1080
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: of gain or extend the ball to make go line,

1081
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: and if that ball hits the ground and comes out,

1082
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: we would rule that being a catch, as opposed to

1083
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: last year, where you had to what we would call

1084
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: survive the ground and maintain them. You're saying it would

1085
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: be a catch fumble if you reach for it, reached

1086
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: out in the ball, pop loose had to catch from

1087
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: except Karen can't cause a fumble. Well, if if you're

1088
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: not down by content, yea yeah, yeah, so it that

1089
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: and you know that's where you get into. Okay, now

1090
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna make some of these potential catches or potential

1091
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: paths now catches. Well, now we open up, there may

1092
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: be a little more fumbles. I've told you this. We've

1093
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: had this conversation, like everybody else has shut No matter

1094
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: how they write this rule, there's gonna be there's gonna

1095
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: be instances where we'll wait a minute and I think

1096
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: that should have been a catch, and now it's not

1097
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: because of the way the rules written. So you're never

1098
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna get away from this. No, I mean it's gonna

1099
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: be hard because there's always going to be those one

1100
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: or two plays where the rule there's you know, it

1101
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: may be a hole in the rule that to most

1102
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: of everyone that's watching, that look like a catch or

1103
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 1: it should have been incomplete, and you know, per the rule,

1104
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: it's it's the opposite. You're never gonna get away from that.

1105
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: Am all right, I'm here. I mean it's tough, We're

1106
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: I mean, this is probably a rule that will will

1107
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: continue to adjust. But right now, I think for some

1108
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: of the obvious plays that we had last year, you know,

1109
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: or years in the past where you had the Calvin

1110
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: Johnson or Dez Bryant, now those you know, would be

1111
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: obvious touchdowns, and that's where I think the rule is

1112
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,479
Speaker 1: trying to address. With NFL referee Shawn Smith talking about

1113
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: some of these new rules, it seems to me, sean

1114
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: on the catch rule, it's the third element where the

1115
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: ambiguity might come in. Right, everybody can understand control of

1116
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: the ball and two feet down, but when you start

1117
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: talking about and I think the language I don't happen

1118
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: in front of me. He said something about in position

1119
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: to make an attempt to reach the line to gain right.

1120
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't even have to make it, but

1121
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: just if you are in position to attempt that right

1122
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: because you're you're making a football at because we've been

1123
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: you have control of the ball, and now you met

1124
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: the requirements of having two feet in a body part

1125
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: now and now you've committed a third at or a

1126
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: football move. Now we've seen that. Okay, he's had control,

1127
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: he's completed the catch process. So now we would allow

1128
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: that to be a catch if the ball comes out,

1129
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: make that third act up until well, you haven't done

1130
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: it yet this year, But in the last couple have

1131
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: you found yourself sometimes confused by is that a catch?

1132
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: A catch? When you're out there in the field and

1133
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: you're looking at you've been an umpire, I believe right, yes,

1134
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: I would in position to make some of these calls.

1135
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: Is it? What has it been tough to figure out? Hey,

1136
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: that's a close call. I don't know what I mean. You'll,

1137
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: like I said, you'll get one or two plays that

1138
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: are in the gray area. But for the most part,

1139
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the way the rule is ridden, it's you.

1140
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: You have to go through that process. Okay, he caught,

1141
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: he had control one or two feet down or the

1142
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: third step. Okay, let you walk through it, and you do.

1143
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: You have to go slow. If you go quick, that's

1144
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: when you get in trouble, but you have to go

1145
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: slow and um and then it becomes second nature. That's

1146
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: what will not having surviving the ground being too an official?

1147
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: What do you not have to look for now? Uh,

1148
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: in order to satisfy that criteria when you say not

1149
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: not surviving the ground. So it's just what did he

1150
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: do after he controlled it, had two feet down? Did

1151
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: he do something after that? And if he didn't, then

1152
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: he goes to the groundball pops out. Now he had

1153
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: a different story. Okay, But and that's what I was

1154
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: gonna say. You know, you see, I mean, for a

1155
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: minute and practice, I played rode receiver. So you catch

1156
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: it and you get hit or whatever, and you get

1157
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: hit and then you have to rerab, you know, gather

1158
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: it in you know, or you catch it and even

1159
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: though the guy catches it and starts to turn, then

1160
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: he starts to put it away, and then that happened,

1161
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: you know. Now, is that first catch where he starts

1162
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: to move it, is that control? Yes? Okay, so the

1163
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: double catch doesn't count. It's just he's control and gets it.

1164
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: That's it. And then if he loses it, then well

1165
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: we've deemed that he's controlled it. So that my question

1166
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: is so the guys standing there, he runs a little

1167
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: hitch route, catches it and kind of catches it and

1168
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: then starts to gather to get in a turn up

1169
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: field and it goes right through him. And and and

1170
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: then that that will A play like that will We'll

1171
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: have to look at did he bobble it before he

1172
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: had two feet down or another body part. But if

1173
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: he bob he's got two feet and then goes for

1174
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: the double catch, that's a catch drop catch fumble the

1175
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: way I'm under if I'm understanding what you're saying, I

1176
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: would say that would be a catch fumble. He controlled it,

1177
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: had two feet down, and now that's gonna be the

1178
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: result of that. I mean, Sean, there's gonna be a

1179
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: lot more fumbles for guys. The ball comes out because

1180
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: the you know they're gonna let that all go. And

1181
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: I I think that's great because they got to hang

1182
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: onto it. And I don't think you should take away

1183
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: a good play on either side because there's just as

1184
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: much chance of the offense recovering it as the defense.

1185
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm totally with that for a long time

1186
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: to coach. They hate loose ball, Yeah, yeah, you don't.

1187
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: You don't want to have cheap fumbles, cheap scores. I mean,

1188
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: and you played the game at a high level, so

1189
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: you know that. So um, but yeah, that that's what

1190
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: happens when you change the rule to allow more catches.

1191
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: Is now you may have sean, let me ask you

1192
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: one more catching. It relates. It relates to the catch role,

1193
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: I guess, and Steve's heard me complain about this, But

1194
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: I often think that we didn't have a problem with

1195
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: the catches until we got to instant replay involved you

1196
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and HD screens and you know,

1197
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: slow ultra slow motion. We all knew what a catch

1198
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: was until you start looking at it and the high

1199
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: definition as slow as you can. Um, that's been a problem.

1200
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: I think Steve's heard me saying I believe instant replay

1201
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: should be out of the officiating picture. You may not

1202
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: want to comment on that, but I don't think I

1203
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: think it makes it worse. I think it makes it

1204
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: more difficult for you guy, It makes the game worse.

1205
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you see a lot more Yeah play replay.

1206
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: You know it shows you know, you can see a

1207
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: guy bobbling the ball, and I mean, yeah, it improves,

1208
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: it helps us correct the obvious mistakes that we make.

1209
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: And I think that was the intent of what replay

1210
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: is there for. But then there's you know, other things

1211
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: that come with me. Yeah, my contention is that, and

1212
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: Steve's heard this. It creates him. It creates a whole

1213
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: new level of discussion about catch, no catch, or anything else.

1214
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely make the car. I can live with a call

1215
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: on the field, even a wrong call on the field,

1216
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: as long as the boom it's over. This is what

1217
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: we saw it. Let's move on. Yeah, Like I said,

1218
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: replay was there just for the obvious mistakes when everyone

1219
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, we got eighty thousand folks in the stadium

1220
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: and they can see that, Yeah, he caught the ball.

1221
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: That's I think that's why you laugh. I'm laughing because

1222
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: you're staying and I've heard this this thing before. Sean

1223
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: sitting here with us, his whole the whole reficiated cruise

1224
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: here off camera. They're on my side, they're all on

1225
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: merth side. They're all like laughing, going, Yeah, there's the

1226
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: first guy that's had the same thing to say on

1227
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: the radio decades. That's miss Murph harpened about bad replay.

1228
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: L Like all the officials over here, love and that.

1229
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: But the one, the one thing that we don't want

1230
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: to do is have a call that impacts the game.

1231
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: So if we've made a mistake and replay can come

1232
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: in and and correct the era that we made and

1233
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, not have it impact the game. We're all

1234
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: for that. Sean Smith, NFL referee, is with us a

1235
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: few more minutes. All right, let's talk about kickoffs. You

1236
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: may want to ask this guy questions rather than vice versa,

1237
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: because this is his specialty. This is what he made

1238
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: his seven time Pro bowlers. Well, yeah, so what do

1239
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: you thin the big when I was in the we

1240
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: had that big summit meeting in New York where you know,

1241
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: the league came together and all the special teams guys

1242
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: got together and Al Riveron was in there too as well.

1243
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: So the officials were in there and that was the

1244
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: big question mark. After they had gotten everything out in

1245
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: the open where they were gonna try and do, the

1246
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: officials came in said, wait a minute, yes, because how

1247
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: are we gonna say where are we gonna align? You know,

1248
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: because it really talk about rules changes and the fans

1249
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: are gonna say, you guys really had to go to

1250
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: school and figure out how you were going to officiate

1251
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: this new play with the new rules, because it's a

1252
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: whole new level a degree of difficulty for you guys. Absolutely,

1253
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: it's a big change with the kickoff rule because now

1254
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: you have to have on the kickoff receiving team, you

1255
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: have to have eight men in the setup zone and

1256
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: you no longer can have anyone on the kickoff team

1257
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: that can form a wedge or wedge block where you

1258
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: have two players come together and then move up field.

1259
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: And then we also have the change on the kickers well,

1260
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: where the kickers have to have at least one foot

1261
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: on the thirty four yard line and both feast stationary

1262
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: when the kicker is approaching the ball, so you can't

1263
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: have that running start there, so that that's a big

1264
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: change for us. And then now we have to officiate

1265
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 1: the kickers restraining line thirty five yard line in most

1266
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: cases as a as a plane, so that's a big

1267
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: change as well. And then the other key component of

1268
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: that is if you have a you have to have

1269
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: a minimum of eight players in the setups. So if

1270
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: you have three back those players cannot participate in a

1271
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: double team blot. So those three back players can't take

1272
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: can't double team. Yeah, they can't participate in the double

1273
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: team blocks, and they can't end the wedge. There's no

1274
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: wedges if you can double team. So the eight guys

1275
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: up front can retreat and two of them come like

1276
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: get shoulder to shoulder and get a guy the one

1277
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 1: person if they come from the front line, if they're

1278
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: in that setups. So you gotta gotta keep track of

1279
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: that when there's and I Levis and I've been down there.

1280
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: I can't keep tracking anything when you're working under a kick.

1281
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: So you guys are gonna have your work cut out

1282
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, And that was one of the things

1283
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: that we talked about UM as officials. How do we

1284
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: handle that? How do we know where the where the

1285
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: player came from. So one of the things is that

1286
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: we'll make sure that we track the three players right

1287
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: before the kickoff, so we'll know, Okay, I had fourteen,

1288
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: five and seven, we're the three guys, and if we

1289
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: have a potential double team blot, we're numbers. None of

1290
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: those numbers were in there. Okay, we're good. And also,

1291
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: you can't have guys short setting. You can't come forward

1292
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: after you're the frake guy. I mean there's a lot

1293
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: of nuance and it's going to come into play also

1294
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: on the conside kicks as well. I mean all that's

1295
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: the same. Both teams now are not allowed not allowed

1296
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: to touch the ball and to or not allowed to

1297
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: block until the ball has been touched um or hit

1298
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: the growl for the first fifteen yards fifteen fifteen yards

1299
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: from the kickers will be restraining line, so it goes

1300
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: from the point where the kick ball is kicked fifteen years.

1301
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: The onside kicks now have to go fifteen yards. No,

1302
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: so so it's they can onside kick it, and now

1303
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: all bets are off. But if the ball is in

1304
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: the air in that first fifteen yards, neither the kicking

1305
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: team or the block or the receiving team can block anyone.

1306
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: If the ball hasn't been legally touched or it hasn't

1307
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: been if it's in the air, if it's in the year,

1308
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: oh I see. So if they pooch it, if they

1309
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: mortar it, it has to go fifteen yards and then

1310
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: once it goes fifteen yards, then you can make contact

1311
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: with the other team. Correct. Wow, correct, that's gone. That's amazing.

1312
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: So if you did you did, you have and I

1313
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: think they did. But you know, I go out high

1314
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: school kids, you can run through this, so you know

1315
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: they you know, Fortunately for us, there there's a ton

1316
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: of plays as we know in the NFL, and there

1317
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: were some situations where they were able to put some

1318
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: plays together and show us say, hey, here's the plays. Yes,

1319
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: get correct. Yeah, so we're able to get some looks,

1320
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: but you know, um, well we'll get I'm sure hopefully

1321
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: we'll get more looks in the preseason. Yeah. How how

1322
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: close are you guys are gonna be watching the Hall

1323
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: of Fame game tonight? Right? Yeah? Well absolutely out there

1324
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: watching the guys and hey, trying to get prepared for

1325
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: our games next week. So, hey, Sean Smith is with

1326
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: us NFL referee. You were talking about the dialogue you've

1327
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: had in the meeting room with those players. I see

1328
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: dialogue out on the practice field, and to be honest,

1329
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: I like it. I like when and it's not antagonistic,

1330
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: but players will say, hey, did I do this or

1331
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: did you see that? Right? That's that's that's instructional. I

1332
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: think absolutely, and even in the games, I always try

1333
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: to do as much preventive officiating as possible. You know,

1334
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: if it's something that that doesn't rise to the level

1335
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: of a file, but us potentially I'll mention it to

1336
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: a guy, Hey watch this hole to watch that. And

1337
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: I think it helps when they when the guys feel

1338
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: like they can engage and you're you can work with

1339
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: them on certain things, I think it helps to I

1340
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: think it helps the game as far as our relationship

1341
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: with the players on the field and just you know,

1342
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: letting them know that what they can and can't do.

1343
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: So and Sean, this is your first year is a referee,

1344
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: but you've been what this is your fourth year in

1345
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: the league or correct? Yes, and you've been umpired for

1346
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: the first year. Yes, I was an umpire for the

1347
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: first three um and this is my first year as

1348
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: a referee in the NFL. Referee, Did you come into

1349
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: the league thinking I'd like to be a referee, but

1350
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: I'll start with this now. I came into the league

1351
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: just hoping to survive. Yeah, it's a different but yeah, yeah,

1352
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: that's yeah, you're right. I mean that's it's it's not easy. No,

1353
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not. And it give us a rundown

1354
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: quick of the college conferences that you were a part

1355
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: of before you got the NFL. So I started in

1356
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: Division two in Negliac, the Great Lakes inter Collegiate Athletic Conference,

1357
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: and then spent about eight years there, three years in

1358
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: the Mid American Conference, and then three years in the

1359
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: Big Ten. So I was referee in the Big Ten.

1360
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: For my last year, I was a back judge, and

1361
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: then I spent prior to that, I was a referee

1362
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: for all my time in the MAC and majority of

1363
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: my time in Negliac. You grew up in Michigan Detroit area. Yes,

1364
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: did you start thinking about being an official? Oh? About

1365
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Just I wanted to get involved in

1366
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: the game and do something, and then I got that

1367
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: bite and once I started it, fell in love with

1368
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: it and just meet meet some great folks and you know,

1369
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: you're involved with the game and it's it's a lot

1370
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: of fun. You don't take this the wrong way, but

1371
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: it's interesting for me. And I tell people this all

1372
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: the time. If you want to have an interesting conversation

1373
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: about football, talk to an official, because their point of

1374
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: view is different than anybody you'll ever meet. There comes

1375
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: the way they see it, the way they talk about

1376
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: it is. It's it's mind blowing because I catch you

1377
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: guys the airport after we do games for CBS and

1378
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: where the you know whatever, the Captain's lounge or whatever,

1379
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: and we're talking about you guys. You guys start talking

1380
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: about stuff in the game. I'm like, what, what are

1381
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: you talking? And it's really weird because you guys, you're

1382
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: like dropped out of space because you don't even watch

1383
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: what everybody else is watching. And now when I talk

1384
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: to folks about the game, I always try to explain

1385
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: it that way. I say, there's kind of like three

1386
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: ways of seeing a football game. There's a way as

1387
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: a player, you have your responsibility, and then there's a fan,

1388
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: and the fan for the most part, is watching the ball.

1389
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: But officials we have areas that we're focusing on, so

1390
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: we're not necessarily following the ball. We have an idea

1391
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: of what's going on, but we're focused on our area

1392
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: and what players we have and that responsibility. So you

1393
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: just watch your guys. You're the guys that lined up

1394
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: where you need to watch, and it's wherever they go.

1395
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: That's it. You don't care what's going on across the

1396
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: field at the high catch or whatever. You're watching your

1397
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: guys even through the whistle. Absolutely and it's a different

1398
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: way of seeing the game. And then when you you're

1399
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: at home and you're watching the game, now you're watching

1400
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: the officials and you're like, hey, how would I have

1401
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: handed that plays? When you've done a game and the

1402
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: game is over and you're in the locker room or

1403
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: at the airport, how do you know if you've had

1404
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: a good day, a good game, what are you looking at?

1405
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm for me. I immediately, you know, started thinking about

1406
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: plays that I didn't call or something that I did call,

1407
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: and now I want to hurry up and get the

1408
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: video and take a look at what was Sometimes so

1409
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: immediately after we get a TV copy of the game

1410
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: right after the game, So yeah, right when we go

1411
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: to the airport and I'm looking at it. After we

1412
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: do our administrative things and filling out the paper and

1413
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: you get a graded video somethin We get our grades

1414
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. So by Wednesday we have our grades from

1415
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: the office. It'll tell us what they like, what they

1416
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: didn't like, and what adjustments we need to make. But

1417
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: we sweat those out. Sorry do you sweat them out? Like?

1418
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no, I mean because it's it's a

1419
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: way of training, it's a way of training you. We

1420
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: all want to be on one a court. We want

1421
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: to make sure we're making the same cause that the

1422
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: other guys were making. So it's a way of training

1423
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: and getting us all on one page. It's fun. It's fun. Yeah,

1424
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: and your own way. It's gotta be No it is.

1425
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: I enjoy it. I ain't gotta love it or yeah,

1426
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: because listen, I if you don't love it, you don't

1427
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: need to be out there getting yelled at Church on

1428
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: the sideline giving and I'm second guessing on the broadcast,

1429
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: I was yelling at him as a player. Wow, yeah,

1430
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: I got bad karma. I've built up a lot. Ever

1431
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: your history, tell them your story about your final game.

1432
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: After how many years in the league, thirteen years in

1433
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: the league, I renounced my retirement and before the last

1434
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,439
Speaker 1: home game, and then our last game was a road

1435
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Five plays in, I got tossed. Last game. Mike,

1436
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: Mike Carry and Mike Pereira were both on that on

1437
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: that brushed an official and well I didn't brush him.

1438
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: I just can't. They were in a hut, it was

1439
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: the old days before you were in the league, and

1440
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: they were talked they'd delay the extra point on a

1441
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: touchdown or something to make sure they got it right,

1442
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: and then they'd go, they'd go, they'd called it down

1443
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: from upstairs. They were gonna review it. So it was

1444
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: like a three or four minute delay, and I saw

1445
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: it on the big screen, and I you know, I

1446
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 1: saw and I went running back and they were kind

1447
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 1: of huddled up talking about he just kind of delaying.

1448
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: So I kind of weaseled my way in. And because

1449
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 1: I weaseled my way in, I touched somebody and and

1450
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: they thought I was They thought I was gonna lose

1451
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: my mind, right, So they got dropped his flag and

1452
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: I got thrown years ago, and I just listen of

1453
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: all the stuff I really deserved to get thrown out for.

1454
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: That was probably ranks probably four or five, right, Yeah,

1455
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: So I got what I just He probably saved me

1456
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: a broken leg. So it's five plays into the game.

1457
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: It was nothing. So Sean, thankfully have a great seal here.

1458
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 1: It's great meeting. You said it good. Un John Smith,

1459
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: NFL referee joining us here in camp with the Bills

1460
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: the last few days. They'll be there tomorrow at newer

1461
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: Afield as the Bill's practice there. Steve and I back

1462
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: with more with Brandon Riley, Bill's wide receiver, are gonna

1463
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: be joining us on set when we return One Bill's

1464
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: Live from Bill's training Camp. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1465
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live from Buffalo Bill's Training Camp.

1466
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker joined by Bill's second year wide receiver,

1467
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: Brandon Riley. Thanks for coming by, Brandon. We appreciate you

1468
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: for having me watching practice today. I noticed they had

1469
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: you in with the ones a little bit, huh, the

1470
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: outside with the ones, and they've been kind of sprinkling

1471
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: you through some of that. Yeah, you know, every opportunity

1472
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,799
Speaker 1: I get, you know, I'm trying to take full advantage,

1473
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: especially up with that first group, and you know, I'm

1474
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: pretty uh happy with my performance today. Do they communicate

1475
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: that with you, like before practice they say, hey, Brandon,

1476
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna run with the ones a little bit today,

1477
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: be ready? Do they tell you now? No? No, I've

1478
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: been sprinkled in there, you know a little bit every

1479
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: day's camp, so you know, I kind of, you know,

1480
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: almost expected, and you know, look forward to it. Today.

1481
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: Right after stretch, you guys started out and it looked

1482
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: like you were going through personnel groupings just just going out,

1483
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: lining up, calling the plane, just run it, getting kind

1484
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: of taking off the ball. Is that kind of in

1485
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 1: preparation for the scrimmage tomorrow where you're gonna start to

1486
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: run in ones twos and have some specific guys on

1487
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 1: the field at the same time. What was that all about?

1488
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: A little bit? You know, we we have quite a few,

1489
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, personnel changes, so just and a lot of

1490
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: signals are just you know, clearing those up and you know,

1491
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: make sure everyone's on the same page. Yeah. Is the

1492
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: offense changed much for you, Brandon from a year ago?

1493
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of different verbiage than you

1494
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: had a year ago. Yeah, I mean everything's completely different.

1495
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 1: But you know there's a lot of room for creativity

1496
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: and you know that's where you know, I think I

1497
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: flourished the best, and you know that's why I'm a

1498
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: big fan of this offense. They're keeping you guys busy,

1499
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: I know. I mean, you get up, you come to practice.

1500
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: After practice, everybody kind of goes home and forgets about.

1501
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: Why do you, guys, I mean this and knows of

1502
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: the grindstone give us a little inside look at your schedule.

1503
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: I mean, where do you go from here? At now

1504
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: that you took a couple of minutes out for us. Yeah,

1505
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, the offense has to lift after practice today

1506
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 1: and then launch and then you know, twelve forty five

1507
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: meetings start and uh, let's go tell about seven thirty

1508
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: and then you know we're done and twelve forty five

1509
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: you said, yeah, and then until seven thirty. Yeah, and

1510
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: then you know they sprinkling dinner in there quickly. But yeah,

1511
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: it's a lot of meeting time, but you know it's needed.

1512
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 1: A lot goes into this. I want to ask you

1513
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 1: something you just said about creativity. Are you saying you

1514
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: are the exit adjustments that you're making when you're you're

1515
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: in receiving motor What do you mean by you you

1516
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 1: like to be creative running routes? What do you mean

1517
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: by oh, you know, if you just have it in

1518
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: like an end route, they you know, they don't want

1519
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: you just to run the route how it looks on

1520
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: the iPad, you know, straight up, straight in. You know,

1521
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: you kind of there's a lot of leeway as long

1522
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 1: as you get to the right spot at the right time.

1523
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: You know, you can just kind of do whatever. It's

1524
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 1: got to be a comfortable feeling knowing that you get

1525
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: there right, Yeah, exactly. It makes a lot more comfortable

1526
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: running routes and a lot of a lot of freedom,

1527
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: and you know, it seems to be working out gives

1528
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: you a chance to to when you get on one

1529
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 1: on ones, you go out there and you can run

1530
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: through a bunch of stuff. And I always used to

1531
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 1: say that, you know, practice is when it's okay to fail.

1532
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta try things to see if the work,

1533
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: and you go against you know, you go against whatever

1534
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: the fifteen dbs on the other side of the ball too,

1535
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: So you get a chance to work against different guys

1536
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: and you sit back and you take reps with all

1537
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: the other guys, so you know when you're on when

1538
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 1: you're doing that, are you do you think if they

1539
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: told you anything about maybe being outside inside? I mean

1540
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: you're obviously playing every spot across the receiving receiving roster.

1541
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: I mean does that give me pause to like me,

1542
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: I need some work from the slot now because I'm

1543
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: gonna be playing there or outside because I'm playing more there.

1544
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: Uh not necessarily. You know a lot of you know,

1545
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: a lot of the releases one on ones, you know,

1546
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 1: they work both inside and outside, So you know, I

1547
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: suppose you. I know, tomorrow, I think we'll be doing

1548
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: one on ones. I look forward to those each time

1549
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: we do it, because you know, that's what it comes

1550
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: down to. And you know, if you get open on

1551
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: one on ones, that's more, you know, show coaches can

1552
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: trust you more to put you and you know, more

1553
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: team reps. And you know, I've done very well one

1554
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 1: on ones so far this camp, and I hope to

1555
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, keep going with Brittan Riley, Bill's wide receiver

1556
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: in a second year. You mentioned working in the slot.

1557
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: You seem to be doing that a lot. Did you

1558
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: do much of that last year? Last summer in the preseason,

1559
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: we're running out of the slot. I did the first

1560
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: game a little bit, but then you know, man, they

1561
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: went back to the outside. And why do you think

1562
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: they're looking at you in the slot? Now? What's different

1563
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: about this year? Do you think in this grew? You know,

1564
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: the first day Davell said, you know, he's like, you're

1565
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: a lot quicker than I expected. And you know, I'm

1566
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: kind of used to that over the years playing you

1567
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: know this game, but I don't know, but I think

1568
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: just I know the playbook very well, and you know,

1569
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: the more spots I know, the more valuable I am,

1570
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: and you know, the more I can bring to the table.

1571
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about last summer. It was

1572
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 1: just about this time last summer going into the practice

1573
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: at the stadium where you began to emerge. And at

1574
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 1: the end of preseason you led the team with what

1575
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: eleven catches one hundred thirty nine receiving yards. Knowing that

1576
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: that's in your resume, you must feel pretty good about

1577
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: the month they had. You know what, you know, how

1578
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: to make your marketing preseason anyway? Huh, Yeah, you know,

1579
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm very last year I was looking forward to, you know,

1580
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 1: your first NFL preseason and you know my goal kind

1581
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: of last year was to be on that practice squad.

1582
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: And you know, this year I got a lot bigger

1583
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: goals for myself. And you know now that this preseason,

1584
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to earn one of those top

1585
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: spots in this receiver room and you know, contribute on Sundays.

1586
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: When do you formulate those goals and how would you

1587
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: articulate what those goals are? What do you want to

1588
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: get done this year? You know, after after last year

1589
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: to seeing you know, I kind of got moved up

1590
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: and never played, and you know, I was almost right there.

1591
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: But you know, my goal has always been to play

1592
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: on Sundays and you know, helped contribute for this organization,

1593
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: and so you know, I've kind of just really been

1594
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: zoned in on doing that and you know, coming out

1595
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: here every day and give my best. What are they

1596
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: telling you about what to expect tomorrow? And this where

1597
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: you head back to Buffalo and you know, get into

1598
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: the lights a little bit, well maybe not know the

1599
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: lights is earlier in the evening, but you know what

1600
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean, big time afternoon practice, a little big game atmosphere,

1601
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 1: a big crowd, and plus it's scrimmage. What have they've

1602
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: told you to expect. Yeah, they haven't said much about it,

1603
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: but you know, I know obviously if we're going all

1604
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 1: the way back to Buffalo, it's going to be you

1605
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: know a little bigger, more focused on this practice. So

1606
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, I expect to bring my best game, and

1607
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, I look forward to it. I'm told they're

1608
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: gonna be about twenty expect about twenty thousand people there

1609
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: tomorrow evening and all many of the those people understand

1610
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: what you did in preseason last year. We were joking around.

1611
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: You were kind of like the people's choice live at

1612
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: the fan favorite last summer. Do you remember that and

1613
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: what kind of impression did that leave with you? Yeah,

1614
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, it kind of surprised me how you know

1615
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: early on it it stuck. But you know, obviously it

1616
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: means a lot. And uh, you know I was telling

1617
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: someone there to day. You know, last year it might

1618
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: have been, you know, the preseason favorite, but you know

1619
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: now I want to you know, I'll be one of

1620
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: the favorites for the regular season and postseason. Here. What

1621
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 1: did you think? And I go back to you know,

1622
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 1: cutdown day last year you were released and then brought

1623
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: back to the practice squad. But for a day or

1624
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: two after you're released, there was like I thought they're

1625
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: gonna be riding in the streets in Buffalo, right, people

1626
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: were upset. What did that mean to you when you

1627
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: heard some of that? I assume you heard some of that. Yeah, yeah,

1628
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean I try not to read in too much,

1629
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: but you know, that was kind of impossible not to

1630
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: see anything. And you know, it does mean a lot.

1631
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: And you know, I look, you know, every day I

1632
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: come out here, I like to meet fans because I mean, look,

1633
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 1: they're here watching us on you know, early morning. It

1634
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: shows how passionate they are for for the Bills. And

1635
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, I love that reminds me a lot about

1636
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: Husker football back in Nebraska. You know, there's not not

1637
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: much else in Nebraska, so everyone's very loyal fans and

1638
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, that's a lot here. And I'm sure we

1639
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: go to Buffalo tomorrow. I'm sure someone to be jumping

1640
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: through a table and getting rowdy and you know how

1641
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: please no, yeah, tomorrow, it'll they'll start it tomorrow. What's

1642
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: changed for you from last year this year? Not first

1643
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: of all, what's changed for the team? Why what's different

1644
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: about this Buffalo Bills training camp for the most part

1645
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: in the big picture? And then what's changed for you specifically?

1646
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: For me specifically? You know, my confidence. You know, last

1647
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: year I wasn't sure what to expect coming to in

1648
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: being and now I do and you know, I'm very

1649
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: confident in my game and I feel I have, you know,

1650
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: raise it to that next level. And I'm you know,

1651
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: keep trying to improve every day and you know stack

1652
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 1: days on top of each other. But you know, the

1653
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: team as a whole, you know, last year, you know,

1654
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people had their doubts on the team,

1655
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: not on the team, but from you know, the outside world.

1656
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: And you know, then you know, we go, we make

1657
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You know, now this year people are down again,

1658
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: but you know guys are like, well they doubt it's

1659
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: last year. Who cares? You know, look how we did

1660
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: and you know, let's see go even further this year.

1661
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: Get the plays and win games. And you know, once

1662
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: you get to the playoffs, you know anyone can win it.

1663
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 1: With Brandon Riley, Bill's second year wide receiver, Brandon, uh,

1664
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: I wonder if this has changed. You appear to me

1665
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 1: to be bigger and I don't know if you weigh

1666
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: more or less than a year ago, but it looks

1667
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: like you've redistributed some of that. Wait, you're bigger up top,

1668
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: it seems than you where a year ago. Huh, Yeah,

1669
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a little heavier, but yeah, I definitely.

1670
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: You know, focus a lot on the offseason, you know,

1671
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: lifting getting stronger, because I mean stronger you get the

1672
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: more explosive, faster you get, and you know that's what

1673
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 1: this game is about. Do you walk a fine line

1674
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: when you get bigger and stronger, you don't want to

1675
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: lose any of the quickness or speed you have. How

1676
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: do you Yeah, yeah, under that a little bit. Yeah.

1677
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: Our strength coaches do a great job. You know they

1678
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: look at everything all that you know, the body, fat,

1679
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: the strength, every every dynamic to it. And you know

1680
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: they set a goal away for camp, but they want

1681
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: us to come in at and you know I came

1682
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: in right where I wanted to and start on the right.

1683
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: Nor would you go home to Lincoln, Nebraska for a

1684
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: couple of what five six weeks there? Yeah? Who would

1685
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: you work out with there? What kind of what kind

1686
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: of workouts situation? I worked out the university some and

1687
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: then there's another workout facility Speedway Village and Lincoln. And

1688
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,799
Speaker 1: then I worked with my receiver coach from Nebraska, Keith Williams.

1689
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: He uh, he's been a great help, you know, to

1690
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: my success getting this far. And you know he's very

1691
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: knowledgeable at the receiver position. So worked a lot with him.

1692
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: And you know a lot of Dolphins players came down,

1693
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: some Colts guys came down. So it's good to you know,

1694
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: work with a lot of other NFL. Yeah, just just

1695
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: get out the Lincoln. Just came to work out there

1696
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: because they hear about him. Who'd you catch passes from

1697
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: during that period? Any quarterbacks that we would know or

1698
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: uh no, no one. You know, I went to Dallas

1699
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: and you know, put Eric for a weekend and caught

1700
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: with AJ and Nate oh the weekend once, so cutting

1701
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: them as well. One of the things we got to

1702
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: ask you about is AJ and Nate and Josh and

1703
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,839
Speaker 1: Josh talk talk about how that's going with him. What's

1704
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: the word in the receiving room about how these guys

1705
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: are playing. I mean, the one thing I've noticed is

1706
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: when you get down to start working in the red zone,

1707
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 1: you've got Kelvin, You've got Croom, You've got Logan Thomas,

1708
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: you've got Charles Clay. I mean, you got some big

1709
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: dudes down there, and the quarterbacks are taking advantage of us.

1710
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: You guys are throwing touchdowns all over the place when

1711
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: you get down close. But talking, what's the wide receiver

1712
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: room say about the quarterback controversy or the quarterback competition. Yeah,

1713
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean they've all been doing great. You know. You

1714
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: guys see they rotate kind of every day. Who goes

1715
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: with blood group? And you know, most time I'm in

1716
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: the head all I don't even I don't even look

1717
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: whose quarterback. It's all basically the same. You know, Josh

1718
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 1: does have a very big arm, very strong arm, and

1719
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: you know some of his balls may come off, you know,

1720
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: a little harder. But the end of the day, I mean,

1721
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: we play receiver and you know, they throw the ball,

1722
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: we catch it. But you know, they have been doing

1723
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: very good, especially in the red zone, and we do

1724
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of big targets. And man, shoot, if

1725
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: I'm in there and I can eat up two guys

1726
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: a double team for them to throw it over the

1727
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: top to one of the big guys, you know, I'll

1728
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: do that. All creativity you're talking about it. You're just

1729
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 1: a drone going out there and catching whoever throws. Mean,

1730
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: come on, you can't have it both ways, so right,

1731
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just tell me what I'm supposed

1732
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,759
Speaker 1: to do and have somebody throw it to me. Exactly.

1733
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 1: There's a lot of red zone work, it seemed today

1734
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: and even seven on seven down and towards this end zone,

1735
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: and there was one segment Stephen and I are sitting

1736
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: there watching, I thought, wow, mccaren is on fire. I mean,

1737
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: like fourth straight passes on fire. That should be good.

1738
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: I know we kind of observed last week. Late last

1739
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: week the offense maybe not getting off to a great start,

1740
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: but then has changed. I think this week you must

1741
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: feel the offense is coming around. The last few days. Yeah,

1742
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of days ago we did red

1743
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: Zone two and you know, coach McDermott pointed out that,

1744
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, we started the day with you know, a

1745
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: two point play and mccarin threw a pick, and you

1746
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: know he didn't let that bother him. I think the

1747
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: rest of the day and team situations he had I

1748
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: think two incompletions the rest of the day. So that

1749
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 1: just shows, you know, you know, they don't let one

1750
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: bad play you know, get to them. And they're you know,

1751
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 1: mentally tough, and you know, all of them, and Nate

1752
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: and Josh I've had great days as well, and you

1753
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be a good challenge, but good uh

1754
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,560
Speaker 1: good results. Who comes out the Brandon Knowing your background

1755
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,839
Speaker 1: growing up as a really a premier hockey player in Lincoln, Nebraska,

1756
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: did you see who was here yesterday? The general manager

1757
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: of the Sabers was watching yesterday. He was here at

1758
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: Jason Botroll. Yeah, did you think if I should have

1759
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,799
Speaker 1: told you should You didn't spend any time like gazing

1760
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: in the crowd and what checking out your back to

1761
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: the field. General manager the Sabers is running the sideline. Ever,

1762
01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, if you ever wanted to put in a

1763
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, hey, if this doesn't work out, can I

1764
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: come scapaup. I didn't. I didn't see him. I honestly

1765
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: don't know who he is. That's right. You wouldn't recognize me.

1766
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: If you next time he's he probably said hide And

1767
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 1: next time he's a practice, I'll introduce you. You know,

1768
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw the owner of the Sabers and yeah,

1769
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: good good guy to know. Yeah did you get them

1770
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: many Sabers last year? And Sabers games? Not a I

1771
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: mean I went to a few, but not as many

1772
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:22,759
Speaker 1: as i'd like. So hopefully, you know, I'll be around

1773
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo more to go. Steve the season ticket, I got tickets?

1774
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 1: Well I got Yeah, let me know, I get you.

1775
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: I've got more than listen when you go to you

1776
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: got forty one games to go to. He's you need

1777
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 1: some people to take tickets. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah,

1778
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,799
Speaker 1: so you get out of here, what tonight or tomorrow?

1779
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: You get out of here. Yeah, tomorrow after I think

1780
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: we have a walk through tomorrow morning. And here I

1781
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: walk from the up to Orchard Park, twenty thousand or

1782
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: more people in the stadium. I would think the atmosphere

1783
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 1: it'll be kicked up a little bit. Yeah, definitely, you know,

1784
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 1: especially more people around, especially on you know, the home field.

1785
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: You know, they intensity will increase in the competition. But

1786
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 1: you know that's what everyone here is very competitive, and

1787
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: you know that's what we're here for. And you know,

1788
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 1: I look forward to it, look forward to seeing you there. Brandon. Thanks,

1789
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 1: Bill's wide receiver joining us. It's John Murphy, Steve Tasker

1790
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: one Bill's Live from Bill's training camp and this is

1791
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show, John Murphy,

1792
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker from Buffalo Bill's training camp. At a nice

1793
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,759
Speaker 1: day here, a nice cool day here. It's not hot

1794
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: as it has been, Steve. Brandon Riley thanks to him

1795
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: for joining us. A tweet from Chris Rizzo says, this

1796
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: guy is legit. Praying he makes a fifty three. He

1797
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: was on the fifty three at the end of last

1798
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: year but never saw action in the game. And his ticket,

1799
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: Steve and you can appreciate this. His ticket to the

1800
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 1: roster might be special teams. Now he's getting work with

1801
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: the ones, he's getting a lot of work at the slot,

1802
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: but still you would need a guy like Brandon Riley

1803
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: Day have something to contribute on special teams. He told

1804
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: us he's doing a lot of different things now. If

1805
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: he's not going to be on the top three, he's

1806
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: got to and if he doesn't, he won't be on

1807
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: the team, He'll be practice squad guy, or he'll be

1808
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: some place else anybody. And he's got to do it.

1809
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: He's got to do it with some enthusiasm. He's got

1810
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: to try and do it well. If he's not going

1811
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: to be in the top three. I mean, we've we've

1812
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 1: heard rumblings that he might be close to being there.

1813
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: But if he can't contrive, if he's not on the

1814
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: field as a receiver in any given situation, he's got

1815
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 1: to be contributing as well on the roster someplace, which

1816
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: means special teams. And we'll see if he can get

1817
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: that done. They put him out there a little bit,

1818
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,560
Speaker 1: uh last year. I don't know how enthusiastic he is

1819
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 1: about it, but we'll see. You think happens guys are like,

1820
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: I've never done this before. I'm uncomfortable, or our guys

1821
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: even to the point where I've never done this before.

1822
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 1: I could get hurt. What prevents guys from him? If

1823
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that Brandon Riley is not embracing

1824
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: special teams, but why wouldn't a guy embrace it, say yes,

1825
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: give me that, I want to try that. Um, they

1826
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: don't make the connection between that being desirable over not

1827
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 1: being on the team. They can't make that connection, and

1828
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 1: that's what gets lost in it where they're a better

1829
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: receiver than maybe a guy that that somebody's going to keep.

1830
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: But that other guy they're gonna keep is a great

1831
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: special teams a great kick cover, and that's where he's

1832
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: gonna play. Ninety percent of his snap, maybe ninety five percent,

1833
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 1: maybe one hundred percent of his snaps are gonna be

1834
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,719
Speaker 1: on special teams. So they don't need a great wide

1835
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: receiver playing special teams. They need a great special teams player.

1836
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: And if if you're not going to embrace the chance

1837
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: of embracing and work at it, you're done. You and

1838
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 1: I just kind of recap the hour. We had a

1839
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: great long conversation with the Sean Smith, brand new NFL

1840
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 1: referee who's been in the league for three previous years

1841
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: as an umpire, And when he walked away, and we

1842
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to talk about it too much

1843
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: on the air, but you and I both said, those

1844
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 1: guys they're impressive. You know, they're impressive, smart guys who

1845
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,560
Speaker 1: are extremely professional, which is why I get so frustrated

1846
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: when they make mistakes. And I know they're not trying

1847
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: to make mistakes. But Sean Smith and his crew was here.

1848
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: They seem like pretty impressive guys who are earnest about

1849
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: being professional and doing a good job. Yeah. Absolutely, And

1850
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: and you know, great dudes, you know. I mean, they're

1851
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,759
Speaker 1: they're here for a couple three days working with the Bills,

1852
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: and they gave him the presentation that we spoke about,

1853
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be hanging out in Buffalo tonight and

1854
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,759
Speaker 1: tomorrow getting ready for the scrimmage tomorrow on the field,

1855
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: and they do work at it, and they do see

1856
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: game things differently. And I know this too. I've talked

1857
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: to a number of them after games. They they want

1858
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: to get it right. And I think the biggest thing

1859
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: that people have to know is they truly truly do

1860
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: not care who wins any game they do. That's the

1861
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: thing that people don't believe, you know, because you know

1862
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: he's sitting in the stands they want us to lose

1863
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: in they can see a bad call. Pavior these guys,

1864
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 1: they could not possibly care less. And that's the thing

1865
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: that that's I think the most comforting as well as

1866
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: the most surprising for a lot of people is how

1867
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 1: little they care about which games they do, which is

1868
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: why as Sean towards the end of the interview, game over,

1869
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: you're in the locker room getting change, you're in the

1870
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: cab or whatever, going to the airport. What do you

1871
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 1: think about when you try to determine whether you had

1872
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: a good game? And I think he answered it correctly,

1873
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, you go back and think about the

1874
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: crucial plays that you didn't really see. Actually, they think

1875
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: about things they didn't call and things they did call.

1876
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 1: And I would say, I think I got that right.

1877
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 1: I think we got that right, you know, or says

1878
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 1: he instantly gets the video, the network video and starts

1879
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 1: watching it that you know, in the in the cab.

1880
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: So it's possible to do that. You can don't have

1881
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: to wait, you know, Yeah, those guys are Yeah, they

1882
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: watch it right right away as a broadcaster, and you've

1883
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: been doing that for a while, do you Because I

1884
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: find myself too, I get frustrated by officials, but I

1885
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: do also think give them the benefit of the doubt.

1886
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're trying to do the best they can.

1887
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Speaker 1: You wish they would have called it differently. It's not

1888
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: always against the Bills. Even last year the Bills got

1889
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: plays calls. I'm thinking of Atlanta, they got calls that

1890
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 1: went their way, but and against them too in the

1891
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: in New England with Kelvin Benjamin Catch. I mean all

1892
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 1: that stuff, But do you find yourself checking yourself, like, ah,

1893
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: don't be that negative about them. They're trying. I try

1894
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 1: almost never to be negative about them. I mean, I'll

1895
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 1: say I don't understand a call or I don't get it.

1896
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 1: But because we in the booth, you'll be able to

1897
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: just dial it up and say, hey, what's the story,

1898
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: how that happened, and we'll be able to call it.

1899
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: We can. You know, we talk to Mike care We'll

1900
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 1: talk to Mike, We'll talk to Dean Blandino when he

1901
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 1: was there Al River on one of the guys in

1902
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: the you can, We've got their number. You can call

1903
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 1: right in there and say what you see, because those

1904
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: are the guys who actually did the replay right. And

1905
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: we can talk to the guys in New York and

1906
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 1: they'll tell us. And so that's and you know this too,

1907
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: all the experience I've had with these guys, they really

1908
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 1: are trying to get it right. Yeah. Yeah, they try

1909
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: hard to get it right. And that we both. I

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01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 1: had this. I ran up by you when Sean Smith

1911
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: left a few minutes ago. I said, Steve, I hope

1912
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: that guy is a really good officiating career. I hope

1913
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: he's a really good referee because I like him. He's

1914
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: a great guy. I want him to have success. It's

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Speaker 1: funny too, because another thing that happens those guys, if

1916
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: they do make a mistake, well they're not the thing

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Speaker 1: that they don't do. There's and I thought this was

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01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: like written in stone. There is no such thing as

1919
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: a makeup call. They're not trying to make up that

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Speaker 1: call because this guy did this. We're gonna give them

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Speaker 1: that they do not. Are you sure they do not

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Speaker 1: go down that road because what they said, you know,

1923
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 1: making the wrong call for you doesn't mean I need

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01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: to make a wrong call for it. Let's get the

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01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: whole game right and let the mistakes stand by themselves.

1926
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: You can't start trying to even it out because then

1927
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: that's the exact place they don't want to be. They're

1928
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 1: having an effect on the game. And I think that's

1929
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Speaker 1: the thing where you'll see and think about this too,

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Speaker 1: because like in an NFL game, it's not like the

1931
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Speaker 1: NBA where there's two three guys. In the NFL, there's

1932
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: seven guys on the crew. So if they make a

1933
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: bad call over here, well, they may make a bad

1934
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Speaker 1: call over there, but it's a different guy calling it.

1935
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Speaker 1: It's not like they're in this you know. It's like

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01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: like the same guys trying to do you know, there's

1937
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 1: a different guy. They're trying to get it right on

1938
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: his side of the field, watching his guys, so with

1939
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: his own grade at the end of the day. So

1940
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 1: they there's just there's none of that going on. And

1941
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: for me, having talked to these guys and even talking

1942
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 1: to Sean Smith today, it's pretty comforting to see how

1943
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: important it is to them and that they're held accountable

1944
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: for all the stuff they do and their desire to

1945
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: get it right is real. Okay, we thank Sean Smith

1946
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Speaker 1: for joining us. I wasn't sure we'd get you know,

1947
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Speaker 1: sometimes the officials don't want to answer questions. I think

1948
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 1: that's kind of good and open. The Sean, first year referee,

1949
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: was able to sit down with us for fifteen twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes and talk about it. Well, sometimes they'll say, I'm

1951
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: not taking questions. It's not November, you know. True, He's

1952
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: not coming out of the show in November. No, sir,

1953
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 1: not in January, right after you did the wildcard game, right.

1954
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Speaker 1: Thanks to Sean for joining us. Hey, our topic today

1955
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Speaker 1: and we want to get you involved in this. It

1956
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: pretty simple. Can the current young core on the Bill's

1957
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: roster lead the team to consistent playoff appearances? Love to

1958
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: talk to you on the phone about that. Numbers to

1959
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Speaker 1: call eight h three oh five fifty or outside Buffalo

1960
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Speaker 1: toll free call eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1961
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 1: You can vote on Twitter as well. Can the current

1962
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: young core of the Buffalo Bills lead the team to

1963
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: consistent playoff appearances? Coming up when we return, we're gonna

1964
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 1: talk about the new show Buffalo Bills. Embedded a couple

1965
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: of weeks away and it's a brand new all access show,

1966
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Speaker 1: a complete access to the Bills behind the scenes here

1967
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 1: at training camp. We'll get more on that when we

1968
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Speaker 1: come back. Steve and I'm back for one more hour.

1969
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented about Kalata Health. Where we are

1970
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Speaker 1: at Buffalo Bills training Camp on Buffalo Bills Radio, Bluffalo

1971
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Speaker 1: Hills Radio Networks Stories Update. Another training camp practice for

1972
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills here at Saint John Fisher today, wrapping

1973
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,759
Speaker 1: up the week's work in Rochester with the morning session

1974
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 1: if a closed walkthrough session here at Saint John Fisher tomorrow,

1975
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 1: followed by the nighttime practice at New Airfield tomorrow, Night

1976
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: six fifteen, the Return of the Blue and the Red

1977
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Speaker 1: six to fifteen. You need a ticket to attend, and

1978
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: we're told that all the tickets have been distributed. More

1979
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 1: good moments with the Buffalo offense today. A. J. McCarron

1980
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: got most of the work of the first teamers. Great

1981
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: red zone session for him and seven on seven work

1982
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 1: back and back touchdown passes to Calvin Benjamin, Jeremy Curtly

1983
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: and Charles Clay. Bills gave veteran Cayl Williams a day

1984
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 1: off today, rookie Harrison Phillips got most of his first

1985
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: team snaps and it was a maintenance day off a

1986
01:30:56,240 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: veteran cornerback Bonte Davis. The NFL preseason schedule starts tonight,

1987
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: believe it or not, the twenty eighteen Hall of Fame Game.

1988
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: It's the Chicago Bears led by second year quarterback Mitchell

1989
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 1: Strobiski against the Baltimore Ravens led by veteran quarterback Joe Flacco,

1990
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: eight o'clock tonight at the Hall of Fame Game at

1991
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,639
Speaker 1: Tom Benson Stadium in Canton, Ohio. The game is on NBC.

1992
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Speaker 1: New York. Giants had begun their negotiations with Odell Beckham Junior.

1993
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: That came just a day or two after Giants owner

1994
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 1: and John Marra admitted the two sides did not talk

1995
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 1: about a new deal for several months. They're talking now.

1996
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 1: Patriots filled their receiver opening by signing a veteran today,

1997
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: A one year deal with Eric Decker worked out for

1998
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Earlier this week. They agreed to a one

1999
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 1: year deal. Doug Baldwin likeded him as most of not

2000
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 1: all the preseason with the Seattle Seahawks with the knee

2001
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: injury suffered the other day. The Cincinnati Bengals are releasing

2002
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 1: wide receiver Brandon Lafelle. That's, according to NFL Network, spent

2003
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 1: the last two seasons as the number two receiver in

2004
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Ohio State head coach urban Meyer was put

2005
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 1: on paid administrative leave late yesterday the school of investigating

2006
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: allegations that several people close to the coach knew of

2007
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 1: a twenty fifteen allegation of domestic violence against one of

2008
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 1: urban Meyer's assistant coaches, and the investigation continues in Columbus.

2009
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 1: And that is a sports update from Bill's training camp

2010
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:16,680
Speaker 1: at Saint John Fishing. This is real. There's not a

2011
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 1: man or a woman in this room that came from

2012
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 1: exactly the same place. We may have all come on

2013
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 1: different ships, but guess what, we're in the same boat now, Greg,

2014
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 1: How do you go to the team you developed? Trust?

2015
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 1: You get to know one another, player to player, coach

2016
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: to player, coach to coach. Hey, way to compete today, fellows?

2017
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 1: They are alive. But hatches and hops on our day off?

2018
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 1: Come on? Oh what is that? It's worse than my golf?

2019
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: That's true. I get to practice it's own now. It's own.

2020
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: It's a competition every single snow, these first couple of days,

2021
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 1: we've got to have high energy. Who got it was?

2022
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm counting on each and every one of you to

2023
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: play an important role in what we're trying to get done,

2024
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: and we'll do this thing together. This is ground zero

2025
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 1: right here. What do three and early look at preview

2026
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 1: look at Buffalo Bills embedded presented by Pepsi. The Bills

2027
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 1: are ready to put that up on various locations media

2028
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 1: locations over the next couple of weeks. And joining us

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01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 1: to talk about it with myself and Steve Tasker is

2030
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: Chris Jenkins, Senior director of Content with the Buffalo Bills,

2031
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: in his fifteenth year with the team. Bills have never

2032
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 1: done anything like this before. Chris just opening up the

2033
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 1: door saying, come on and everybody look what we do.

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Speaker 1: It's cool. Well, it is an exciting project. It's our

2035
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: first digital only show, so um, it's it's something that

2036
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: other teams have done. You know, our friends and the

2037
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: Cardinals are doing something similar called Flight Plan and Tennessee

2038
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 1: to Jets. But we wanted to take a look and

2039
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 1: you know, check out our preparations for the twenty eighteenth

2040
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: season and some of the things we've been doing in

2041
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 1: the spring and give a look to the fans. How

2042
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,759
Speaker 1: many how many episodes are It will be four episodes,

2043
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 1: start in August fifteenth at eight pm, and it'll air

2044
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 1: on our Facebook watch page, so everyone could go to

2045
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: Facebook dot com slash bills embedded and follow there. But

2046
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 1: we'll throw out teasers and reminders on our all our

2047
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 1: social platforms and our website, and you guys will be

2048
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: promoted on this show as well. So it's not it's

2049
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 1: not easy to get this thing done. I mean because listen,

2050
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,600
Speaker 1: that the whole thing about these football and I know

2051
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 1: Sean's like this, you're not gonna you can't show them,

2052
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 1: you know, plays, you can't show them. There's so much

2053
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 1: stuff they want to keep so secret. This is that's

2054
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: why these things are so interesting, because there's a lot

2055
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: of stuff that is interesting that has nothing to do

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01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 1: with football exactly. Well, and it's really about the preparation

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01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 1: what these guys go through. You know that there's more

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01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 1: than the game than just what they see on TV

2059
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: or what you see on Sundays. Um. These guys are

2060
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: in the classroom, These guys are meeting with each other.

2061
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 1: They're working on the field, mentoring each other, helping each

2062
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 1: other get one on one moves down thin like that. So, um,

2063
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, that's what we're really showing the fans and

2064
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 1: and really what started our thought process on this is back, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, back in December when Week seventeen, when we

2066
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 1: had all the coverage from inside the locker room in Miami,

2067
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 1: and obviously things worked out amazingly in terms of Cincinnati

2068
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: with a dramatic win, but to capture Kyle and his

2069
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 1: family in the in the locker room and Micah Hyde

2070
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 1: and Eric Wood and guys hugging Terry and Sean, just

2071
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: that emotion, that raw emotion, that's what the game's about,

2072
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 1: and that's what the fans want to see. So that's

2073
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:32,799
Speaker 1: what we're out here trying to try to accomplish. Buffalo

2074
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 1: Bills embedded presented by Pepsi. I just want to talk

2075
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 1: about the delivery method here. It starts August fifteenth on

2076
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 1: on Facebook Watch eight pm, but it's available every Wednesday

2077
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: after that for the next few weeks at the same time, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna go for four straight weeks and um,

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Speaker 1: and then after originally airs on our Facebook watch. We'll

2080
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,879
Speaker 1: have it available on our YouTube channel, on the website,

2081
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: on the Bills app, so it'll be out there for

2082
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 1: everyone to see. And the great thing about it is

2083
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 1: that people Bills fans could watch this world worldwide, so

2084
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,560
Speaker 1: you're not limited with local restrictions and TV rights and

2085
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So that's uh, that's what's really exciting

2086
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: about it. Chris. We're all and it's been a year

2087
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 1: and a half now since Sean McDermott came on board.

2088
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 1: We're all still getting to know him a little bit.

2089
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: And I would have to say, of all recent Bills coaches,

2090
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: if you asked me which one would allow all access

2091
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: behind the scenes coverage, he would be the last on

2092
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 1: my list. Well, I think I think Sean. Well, the

2093
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 1: one thing about Sean is he is really wants the

2094
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 1: fans to be excited. He wants that stadium to be filled.

2095
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: And you know, our leadership, you know, you guys know,

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01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:34,839
Speaker 1: Mark Preisler, Jeff Matthews, you know when when these ideas

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Speaker 1: started formulating and they met with with Sean and Brandon

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Speaker 1: and and Derek and PR department, you know, these these

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Speaker 1: things were addressing, they were talked about, but but you know,

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Speaker 1: everyone's excited about about the season, about twenty eighteen season,

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Speaker 1: and to see kind of what the process looks like.

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Speaker 1: Sean talks about the process all the time. You know,

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Speaker 1: this takes fans a little bit inside the process and shows,

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01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 1: you know, how how he gets the team ready, how

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Speaker 1: the coaches get the team ready, how they interact with

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Speaker 1: each other, and like I said, promost players player player

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01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 1: to coach, coach to coach. Um, it's uh, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a really big initiative for everyone. How much the organization.

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Speaker 1: How long is each episodes? In an hour long episode

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Speaker 1: or the half hour episodes? And what are you gonna

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Speaker 1: do with all the outtakes and stuff? They wouldn't like? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: can we show the outakes on this show? Uh, we'll

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Speaker 1: get approval on that. Good luck, but uh no. Um.

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Speaker 1: The great thing about it being digital too is we

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Speaker 1: get determined the length. So um, you know, well, Well,

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Speaker 1: Michelle Girardi is on Wald who everyone knows the lead

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Speaker 1: producer on the project. She does all the Beyond Blue

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Speaker 1: and Red, Beyond Blue and Gold for the sabers Um

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Speaker 1: and a lot of our big projects and won the

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Speaker 1: Emmy with Rex and Brov. So she'll um, go through

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Speaker 1: the footage with some of the PSC editors and the videographers.

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Speaker 1: And we have people on both sides working on the

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Speaker 1: project in terms of BILLS videographers and the PSC videographers.

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Speaker 1: So we're taking notes daily, we're going through the footage.

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Speaker 1: We're meeting every night, uh, trying to star highlight, figure

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Speaker 1: out things, what fits where, and she'll do the outline

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Speaker 1: of storyline and we'll see where it goes. So it

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Speaker 1: could be anywhere from you know, it could be anything

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Speaker 1: fifteen twenty minutes, a half hour. You know, we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna put a limitation on it. Just great footage, just

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Speaker 1: set the team up for being on hard knocks. I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know because that decision doesn't come from

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Speaker 1: from us, so it comes from the league, and uh

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01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 1: that comes above my pay grade, as they say. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I think, um, it's most of the players

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01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 1: are used to it. Let's be yeah. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: it's not twenty years ago, or it's not even fifteen

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Speaker 1: years ago when I started. I mean, these guys, whether

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01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 1: they're in college, big time programs, Ohio State, Alabama, they

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01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: do things like this, um or with it. You used

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Speaker 1: to be miked up exactly, or if you're at another

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01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 1: NFL team, you've been on Hard Knocks or and now

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Speaker 1: they have the Amazon show All or Nothing. So this

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01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: isn't anything really new for the players. It's uh, it's

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01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 1: just kind of part of their routine. And that's and

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Speaker 1: that's some of the things that we talked about. It

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Speaker 1: like everyone's just gonna be professional, whether it's camera people

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01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: and the staff on our side or the players. You know,

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01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 1: we're all in this together and uh, and that's why

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Speaker 1: we communicate every day about it and hopefully so hard.

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Speaker 1: So things have been great so far. Talking with Chris Jenkins,

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01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 1: Senior director of Content for The Bills about Buffalo Bills

2153
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 1: embedded the brand new show coming up, All Access show. UM,

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01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 1: if you're out here a training camp practices, you can

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01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 1: see the crew. How many on the crew? I mean

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01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 1: it seems every time I turned there's another cameraman or

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01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 1: all hands on. Yeah, it's we have typically four cameras

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Speaker 1: at practice. UM. We also have uh, multiple editors who

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01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 1: are some back here. Uh let's say John Fisher who

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01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 1: are on site summer back at PSC offices. Um. We

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Speaker 1: have multiple producers, like I said, Michelle and then Kyle Uh,

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01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 1: I help out a little bit Jeff Matthews, um so,

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01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 1: and then we have a full time sound technician, so

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01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's a all hands on deck. We also

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Speaker 1: have the capabilities of putting up some unmanned cameras in

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Speaker 1: certain locations. That kind of helps. Um you know, you know,

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01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 1: when there's a camera in there, sometimes guys could get

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Speaker 1: a little um guarded in some ways. So you know,

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Speaker 1: but I mean we all go through the footage. We

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Speaker 1: we work together to make sure that we're putting our

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Speaker 1: best foot Poos. I see you at every practice. You

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01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 1: we're in headphones. What do you you listen to? Yes, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: we could listen to some of the footage as it's

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Speaker 1: as it's coming in. But it helps with the with

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Speaker 1: the editing process in terms of taking notes and yeah

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Speaker 1: and lining up. Okay, Brandon Riley caught a touchdown pass here. Um,

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Speaker 1: here's what he said, continuity and all that. The least

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01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:24,559
Speaker 1: thing you want to do is have all that video

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Speaker 1: and then not be able to find it and remember

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01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: where it came exactly. And we're on a deadline. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've we've we've set these dates where so APM on

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Speaker 1: August fifteenth. We gotta be ready, so no, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and it helps also, you know, if if you

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01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 1: could tax or different things, and when you search for

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01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 1: the information, Michelle and the editors kind of know like, Okay,

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01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 1: if you're looking for another touchdown scene or help things

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01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:50,639
Speaker 1: to get piece together, they'll they'll it's easier to get

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01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 1: that information. Buffalo Bill's embedded is the name of the show, Chris. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, some of the best and really most dramatic

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01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:00,679
Speaker 1: video on Hard Knocks over the years has been cut time,

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Speaker 1: release time. Are you guys gonna have access to that room?

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01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 1: When they talked to a player about Yeah, that that

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01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: is Uh, we haven't really talked about that as much

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Speaker 1: as we're as we're going through so so we're still

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Speaker 1: we're still in that process of gaining the content. So

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Speaker 1: we were just kind of taking it day by day

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Speaker 1: here and we'll see we'll see where the where the

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Speaker 1: footage and where the storylines take us. Um. But uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, as of right now, we're just worried about um,

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Speaker 1: you know, these next couple of weeks here and uh,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll see where that goes. There's really no

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Speaker 1: shortage of stuff to talk about. I mean, can you

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Speaker 1: give us a list of who you've miked up and

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01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 1: how many guys? Um, it's been to two people every practice,

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Speaker 1: so sometimes position coaches, sometimes coordinators, UM, so a lot

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Speaker 1: of players so far. Yeah. So, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: one of the more pivotable storylines have been has been

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Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins. We had him miked up and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: just kind of he was a rookie last year. This year,

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01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 1: one of the rookies you know, was was going through.

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01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,680
Speaker 1: UM had a tough play and just Dion going up

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01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 1: to him and just talking about his experience and just

2213
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 1: kind of that genuine player to player, just like, hey,

2214
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 1: I was here before, don't worry about it. Next play,

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01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 1: let's get up. And you know, a couple of plays later,

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01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:13,840
Speaker 1: the guy had a good play, you know, knock someone

2217
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 1: down in a past rushing drill and everyone was excited

2218
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 1: for him. So you just kind of see that camaraderie

2219
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 1: and and that's that's what you hear, and that's what

2220
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: you see with these guys. Micah hide the same way

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01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: he's he's itching to get an interception and you know

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01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: he's talking to the ball and really getting insights and

2223
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So and it's not just on the field,

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01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, we're in the meetings. Um, I think

2225
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,600
Speaker 1: everyone were may have read Trent Murphy's story he was

2226
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 1: an athletic couple a couple of days ago about how

2227
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: he addressed the team, So we had the ability to

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01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 1: capture that footage and and things like that and little

2229
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 1: things people may not know that. Uh. Um. Actually I

2230
01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 1: think it was Jerry Hughes and Rod Streeter one day

2231
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 1: Sean had them play a play in Madden in a

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01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 1: team meeting to kind of break up the monotany and

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01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 1: things like that. So there's things that people won't see

2234
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 1: that they that they haven't seen before. You know, I'll

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01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 1: tell you the true And you talk about a guy

2236
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 1: like going back to where you were saying about Dion

2237
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 1: Dawkins and the young player that was, you know, you

2238
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 1: have a bad play. I'll never forget. And guys say

2239
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:11,759
Speaker 1: this all the time. People really don't understand how true

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01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 1: it is that you have a bad play as a

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01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 1: rookie in an NFL camp where you've got your whole

2242
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 1: life and hopes and dreams and future tied up into

2243
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 1: how this team and how you're gonna play for this team.

2244
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 1: And you have a bad play. It's like crushing all

2245
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 1: your hopes and dreams and your whole future away in

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01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 1: that one play. And to have a guy come up

2247
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 1: and say, hey, don't worry about You're gonna be right,

2248
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 1: and then go back in and have a really good play.

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01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 1: Then after a really good play, thing, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: all pro I'm gonna be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: It goes, and that is within like five minutes. It's

2252
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: five minutes. You are the lowest of lows. You're ready,

2253
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 1: You're ready to you know, jump off a building. You

2254
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: go into being the greatest thing since the ball was

2255
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: stuffed with air, you know. I mean, it's it is

2256
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: an unbelievable emotional roller coaster that these guys, and the

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01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 1: pressure is intent to see that up close with these guys.

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01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 1: I think it's really telling and people will really find

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01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 1: it fascinating because everybody reacts differently exactly. And I think

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Speaker 1: what people also might not see is or I don't

2261
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 1: see it on an every day basis, is just the

2262
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 1: camaraderie that goes with it. I mean, these are ninety

2263
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 1: guys here are fighting for fifty three spots. Right. Well,

2264
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 1: you could add practice squad or whatever. But you know,

2265
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 1: essentially fifty discussion want to make the tea. So um.

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01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:26,800
Speaker 1: But but the guys are always helpful, you know, really hey, uh,

2267
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 1: you know Jerry Hughes is helping Shack Lawson with some

2268
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,640
Speaker 1: pass rushing moves the other day or things like that.

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01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 1: You just kind of see that and you hear that,

2270
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 1: and uh, because it's it's twofold. Hey, everyone's trying to

2271
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 1: get their own spot. But at the end of the day,

2272
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: we want they want the best team that they could have,

2273
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 1: the fifty three best guys that could help us go

2274
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: to the playoffs again and and and have great success

2275
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 1: on the field. So's it sounds like not much of

2276
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 1: a difference. It's a subtle difference, but it's profound. Nathan

2277
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 1: Peterman said it really well the other day. Say, listen,

2278
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm not competing against you know, a j McCarron and

2279
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:00,680
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I'm competing with them exactly. And that's that

2280
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 1: subtle difference gives you a different set of an insight

2281
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:05,759
Speaker 1: as to what their mindset is. They can be friends

2282
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 1: and buddies and competing for a job or a place

2283
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 1: in the roster, and still before each other, and it's

2284
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 1: it's a unique environment and that speaks to the culture

2285
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 1: that Sean Brandon and everyone has has brought here. And

2286
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 1: you know this as a former player and being around

2287
01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 1: this game. UM, that culture is important. And you could

2288
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 1: tell the difference. You can tell difference with these guys

2289
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 1: really like each other when they're supporting each other, and

2290
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 1: you could tell, you can see the other side, so UM,

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01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, you could you could speak to it as

2292
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 1: well as I can. Just it's it's great to have

2293
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 1: these guys UM being able to UH to tell their

2294
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 1: story to Bills fans and and for the Bills fans

2295
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:44,639
Speaker 1: to see UH live and in person or with Rich

2296
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 1: Chris Jenkins, Bill Senior Director of Content, talking about Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Embedded presented by Pepsi. He's coming up in a

2298
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. What what Steve describes what you're talking about, Chris,

2299
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:57,639
Speaker 1: And I've always thought this training camp especially it's this

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01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 1: is human drama. I mean, that's why these make good

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01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 1: TV shows. There's real live drama here. People's fortunes, people's

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01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:05,640
Speaker 1: lives are at stake, and what goes on in the

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Speaker 1: meeting room and on that practice field and how they

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01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 1: interact with each other. That's what makes it I think

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Speaker 1: compelling viewing exactly. And and it's it's really it's all

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01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 1: year I mean, yeah, you guys, you guys know this

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01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 1: is a year round business. Um. You know, these guys

2308
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 1: are here on campus starting back in April with lifting

2309
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 1: weights and and doing their own things. And even when

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01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 1: the CBA, you know that they're they're on the field

2311
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 1: when they can be, and and when they're not, they're

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01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 1: they're off the field bonding doing things off the field.

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Speaker 1: So no, I mean, everyone takes this extremely seriously. I mean,

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01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 1: you guys have have this this show three you know,

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01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 1: year round fifty two week see you um talking football,

2316
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: So people people are interested in it, and everyone does

2317
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 1: take it seriously. And that's that's the great part. You know,

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01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 1: you see these guys as much work they put in,

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01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 1: um that uh that that is important. It's important to them.

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01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 1: And and they're sucker facing a lot too. You know,

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01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 1: they're they're away from their families. Some of these guys, um,

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01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:58,600
Speaker 1: you know, their families are back home or and you know,

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01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 1: until they get situated come back up the Buffalo in

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01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:03,760
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. So it's uh, it's a tough situation,

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01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 1: but it's but it's fun at the end of the day,

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01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 1: it's fun. We're playing a game, We're we're covering a game.

2327
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 1: So it's it's great. You're just a week into the

2328
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 1: shoot and you know how it's gone over the years

2329
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks, people who emerge his stars, you know,

2330
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 1: and fan favorites only a weekend. Is there anybody you

2331
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 1: can say is going to become a fan is it?

2332
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 1: I would think Dean Dawkins whatever, you know, Dean, I

2333
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:24,240
Speaker 1: think guy. I think Dione a little bit has definitely

2334
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 1: has that personality. Um. I think Britt Riley has a

2335
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 1: very very uh, very subtle sense of humor in some

2336
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 1: ways some ways not you guys had him on the

2337
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: show earlier. Ye, he's uh and you know he's a

2338
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,800
Speaker 1: confident guy. Yeah, but uh and and and you know

2339
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:41,799
Speaker 1: what's also interesting. You know, you we've all played sports,

2340
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 1: cover sports. Um, when you see the other players give

2341
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 1: the you know, another player respect, you really know that

2342
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 1: guy is doing something on the field or in the

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01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:54,640
Speaker 1: meeting room or whatever. And and you see that with

2344
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 1: some of these guys. Um, something we mentioned something we haven't,

2345
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 1: but you know, you'll you see that and it kind

2346
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:00,760
Speaker 1: of comes through like, Okay, this this guy is a

2347
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: good player. We gotta we gotta help him or you know,

2348
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 1: make sure that he's you know, on a straight Nowrow

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01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:10,240
Speaker 1: helps us one. Buffalo Bills embedded presented by Pepsi Chris

2350
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:12,679
Speaker 1: give us again the Rundown. It starts in thirteen days

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01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 1: right August fifteen starts. It starts August fifteenth. Um, go

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01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 1: to Facebook dot com slashing bills embedded. That's uh, that's

2353
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 1: our Facebook watch page for the show. But check all

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01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 1: the bills social channels. We'll be tweeting out uh teases

2355
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 1: and reminders and uh. But yeah, just go to our

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01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,719
Speaker 1: Facebook page. You can find it there. But Facebook watches

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01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:32,679
Speaker 1: where we will be unveiled. And then, like I said,

2358
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 1: to Bill's website bills at Bill's YouTube page, and you

2359
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 1: guys will be talking about it promoting it. So if

2360
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 1: you watch it, ste if you're gonna have to watch

2361
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 1: it more, respond, I don't be great. I'm listening. I'm

2362
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 1: like everybody else. I can't wait to see it. Yeah,

2363
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:48,160
Speaker 1: fancy and to be excited. You don't check the social

2364
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:50,599
Speaker 1: media comments stuff like that. So so it's good. It's

2365
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 1: it's uh We're really excited about it and can't wait

2366
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 1: to find out what the reaction is after the first episode.

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01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:56,639
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on with us, say thanks for having

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01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 1: us appreciate Chris Jenkins, Senior director of Content for the

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01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Abou Buffalo Bills Embedded presented by Pepsi. It

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01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: starts August fifteen. Steve and I'm back with more one

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01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 1: Bills Live from Bill's training Camp. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bill's training camp. It's a nice stay

2373
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 1: here at Saint John Fisher College. Our last day in

2374
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 1: Rochester this week. Next week we're back Monday and Tuesday.

2375
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 1: As the Bills moved through training camp. We're not We're

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01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 1: almost at the halfway point of training camp. Believe it

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01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 1: or not. See one weekend. It's kind of the halfway

2378
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 1: point for us. We're gonna do like what ten shows here? Yeah,

2379
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:38,719
Speaker 1: and this is the show number after today. Halfway point.

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01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: You're counting them down, Al Rady, huh no, No, I'm

2381
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 1: just trying to keep track. We had a discussion earlier

2382
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:45,640
Speaker 1: that we have a caller on the line wants to

2383
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 1: weigh in on Manny from Hamburg. Manny, go ahead, you're

2384
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 1: on the air, Hi, John Steve, great show him he

2385
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 1: had about an hour ago was great television. And after

2386
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 1: you get done talking, I thought about it myself, about

2387
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:02,160
Speaker 1: the good quarterba X, and I asked myself, if the

2388
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 1: Bills were to win twelve thirteen games this year, what

2389
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 1: I care who the quarterback was. And my answer would

2390
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 1: be no, I don't care which one of the three

2391
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 1: guys would be the quarterback. I don't care what we

2392
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 1: gave up to get who If we won twelve thirteen games,

2393
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 1: it's my guy, and um so I guess I'm let

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01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 1: me go, and I think he's twelve thirteen wins. I'll

2395
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 1: take that, and in a heartbeat, yeah, he's one of

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01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 1: the he's one of the few people who agree with

2397
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 1: me because we've been I'm eating crushed on my mentions

2398
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 1: on Twitter, but yeah, because they're saying, you know, we'll

2399
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 1: be we went twelve or thirteen games, but no, no,

2400
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:36,560
Speaker 1: we need to be even better because we needed to

2401
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 1: use those draft picks. Listen, you don't know if if

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01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:41,600
Speaker 1: the guy you drafted with all those draft picks and

2403
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 1: traded to get up there, like Josh Allen, having him

2404
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 1: here might be part of the reason a J McCarron

2405
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 1: is so successful in the team wins twelve and thirteen

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01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 1: games year twelve thirteen games because he's a part of

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01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 1: AJ's prep prackage. Who knew him? All I'm saying, don't,

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01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 1: don't we're playing five go ahead games away. Would you

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01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 1: want to put Josh or or even Peterman in there?

2410
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 1: You want a guy with experience, you know, if if

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01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: either one of them is playing well, I want to

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01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 1: put him in there. You know, it doesn't matter. That's

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01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 1: the whole point. It doesn't matter if all things being equal,

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01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 1: if you go back, yeah, if you go and win

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01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 1: the super Bowl with AJ McCarron, you're not gonna second

2416
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 1: guess yourself over a draft pick you wasted or two

2417
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 1: draft picks. The problem. The thing is you had a plan,

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01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 1: The plan worked you, and you had tacked it on

2419
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 1: all all at all levels. No question that every team

2420
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 1: will look back across their history and say that, you

2421
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 1: know what, we shouldn't have done this, we should have

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01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 1: done that and all that. I mean, even the successful ones.

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01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 1: How about we didn't You can't. As it turns out,

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01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 1: we didn't need to do that because we had the

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01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:51,679
Speaker 1: quarterback other than Josh Handling turns out and look, yeah,

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01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 1: you win twelve thirteen games, you win a Super Bowl.

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01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 1: No one's gonna find fault with that. But somebody might say,

2428
01:51:56,720 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 1: as it turns out, you didn't need to do that. Um, okay, congratulation, listen,

2429
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 1: give me a sway out of the Lombardi Trophy. Congratulations.

2430
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 1: But you know, somebody might say you didn't need to

2431
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 1: do There's a thing though. Yeah, you can say that,

2432
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,519
Speaker 1: and you'd be probably right. But here's the thing. You

2433
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 1: can't go back in time. And even though things go wrong,

2434
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 1: and they always do, why are you gonna if because listen,

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01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:23,919
Speaker 1: this is an organization. They a lot of every organization

2436
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 1: tries to do all the right things for all the

2437
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 1: right reasons, and some of them turn out to be

2438
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 1: waste of time, and some of them sometimes and in

2439
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 1: the case we're talking about the scenario, we're talking about

2440
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 1: the fantasy scenario. You're talking right, everything bounces your way,

2441
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 1: things go your way for in a way that you

2442
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:40,599
Speaker 1: didn't even plan. So that goes in the that can

2443
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 1: go in the hopper with all the bad bounces and

2444
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 1: the reverse calls that should have been touchdowns that the

2445
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills have piled up over the decades. You can

2446
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 1: put that right in the same bag because it belongs there.

2447
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 1: And if they have to waste a draft pick along

2448
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 1: the way and find out they got a great player

2449
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 1: in another spot, nobody cares because it's a place where

2450
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 1: you got a lucky bounce instead of instead of wide right, Frank,

2451
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 1: why change? You're in fantasy landing, Frank is gonna change?

2452
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 1: Let me let me take a deep breath. Frank and Williamsville, Hello, Frank,

2453
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 1: you're on the air. John Steve, you had the guy

2454
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:20,840
Speaker 1: from the officiating uh department? Yeah, Sean Smith. We loved him.

2455
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 1: My favorite official. Now in the NFL, I want to

2456
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 1: make a couple of comments out replay and ask you

2457
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,679
Speaker 1: is the way it stands now? Right? The coaches getting

2458
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 1: a certain amount of plays they can they can have

2459
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:32,639
Speaker 1: replayed on their own, except for what the last two

2460
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:34,439
Speaker 1: minutes of the of the game, when the when the

2461
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:38,679
Speaker 1: stake over the official? Is that right? That's right, that's correct,

2462
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:40,559
Speaker 1: the half and the game, isn't it? Or is it? Yeah?

2463
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 1: The half and the game? Which I was wondering, like,

2464
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 1: why why is that those two minutes more important than

2465
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 1: what any other two minutes where the coaches have to

2466
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 1: make this call on their own. You know what I'm saying,

2467
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:56,599
Speaker 1: because ahead, well, because there's no time to recover from

2468
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,639
Speaker 1: a miss. There's no time. You don't have the time,

2469
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 1: you don't have another series, yeah, a miss call or something,

2470
01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 1: because the game is running out and the time is

2471
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:06,800
Speaker 1: running out, and they're gonna stop the game no matter what,

2472
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 1: either for the half or the game. So the reason,

2473
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 1: the reasoning is that the reason that the last two

2474
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 1: minutes are important is because there's no recovering from a

2475
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: bad call. I do think that's the way to look

2476
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 1: at it, Frank, Not that they're more important, but it's that, Oh,

2477
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 1: maybe you've already used you replay challenge and you don't

2478
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 1: have one, But man, there's an egregious call that we

2479
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 1: should change and now we have the ability to take

2480
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:29,640
Speaker 1: it upstairs and do their replace. Or either way, you use,

2481
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:32,520
Speaker 1: you use your challenge and you and it works and

2482
01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 1: you get it right, and then there's another one. Thanks

2483
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 1: for your call. Hey, let's talk a little bit about

2484
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 1: our Twitter pall. I don't know if people care to

2485
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 1: weigh in on this anymore. And it's still up our

2486
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 1: Twitter poll, and we'll talk about it on the telephone

2487
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 1: nine eight oh three five fifty and toll free one

2488
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 1: eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty. Can the

2489
01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 1: current young core of the Buffalo Bill's roster lead the

2490
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 1: team to consistent playoff appearances? On Twitter, more than two

2491
01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 1: thirds of you sixty nine percent say yes they can,

2492
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 1: thirty one percent saying no, Uh, give us a call,

2493
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 1: let's talk. Eight oh three five fifty, toll free one

2494
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. A lot

2495
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 1: of interesting responses to this on Twitter, I think too.

2496
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 1: Stephen Susan Crowley says absolutely, these young receivers will be

2497
01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 1: exciting to watch. Um. A lot of responses like that.

2498
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 1: People have faith UM Scott Policheck McDermott and Bean making

2499
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 1: the best team, not a team with the best players. Yeah,

2500
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,440
Speaker 1: it's been interesting too because we had Kelvin Benjamin, we

2501
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 1: had Austin Proleon and today we had Brandon Riley on

2502
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:31,800
Speaker 1: so we got a chance to speak to some of

2503
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 1: these receivers and UM, there's a lot to be excited about.

2504
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of them over there. They all have

2505
01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 1: are here for a reason. They all bring something different

2506
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 1: to the table and and Um, you know a lot

2507
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 1: of people are pulling for Brandon Riley over the preseason

2508
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 1: that he had last year and the fact that he

2509
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 1: could hang around for a year and make himself viable

2510
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 1: enough late in the season two to get on the

2511
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 1: field and not get on the fifty three man and

2512
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 1: be active for some games. He's grown. Um, and we've

2513
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 1: people around Buffalo seen it and they're excited and they

2514
01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 1: want to see him have some success. We had Sean

2515
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 1: Smith down in the one o'clock hour, right is that

2516
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 1: one o'clock yet one o'clock hour NFL referee. He and

2517
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 1: his career headed back to Buffalo. They'll be there for

2518
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 1: the practice tomorrow night at New Airfield, and the Bills

2519
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 1: have at the officials in now for two days here

2520
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 1: one day tomorrow Archer Park. Danny Croftsman, the Bill's special

2521
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 1: teams coordinator, met with the media before practice early this

2522
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:25,120
Speaker 1: morning and Croftsman was asked about having that interaction with

2523
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: the officials and having the officials explained the new rules changes.

2524
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 1: Here's what the Bill's special teams coach had to say

2525
01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 1: about that. Oh, obviously the businessing was clarity and I

2526
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 1: think you know you've seen some things coming out that

2527
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, a week ago, they just sent us some

2528
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 1: more information about this rule. Everybody, Oh, same rules, just

2529
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 1: more detailed, more clarity of exactly what those rules are

2530
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 1: on paper. And then what's so nice about having the

2531
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:55,280
Speaker 1: officials here and as you saw yesterday we worked kickoff,

2532
01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 1: kickoff return, we're gonna do the same thing today, is

2533
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:00,320
Speaker 1: just to get into the house and the why of

2534
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 1: how these guys who are actually going to be their

2535
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 1: own game day are going to officiate it. You know,

2536
01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 1: it's easy to look at the rule and say this

2537
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 1: is what is, but to be able to talk and

2538
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:11,480
Speaker 1: pull information from the guys that are going to be

2539
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 1: out there calling it, that's invaluable and that communication has

2540
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 1: been great. What's an example of one bit of that

2541
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 1: clarity that you've got, Like, what would one thing they

2542
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 1: clarified the last week, you know exactly when they say,

2543
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, when the rule was originally written of what

2544
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:31,280
Speaker 1: was moving forward and what that zone was and who

2545
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 1: could move forward. Well, now that moving forward has been

2546
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,520
Speaker 1: detailed a little bit more by the officials in terms

2547
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 1: of who and how, and the same thing in terms

2548
01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 1: of who's now able to move back, what and how

2549
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:45,080
Speaker 1: they're going to call some of the blocking rules. So

2550
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 1: for us as coaches, it was It's been a great

2551
01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:52,680
Speaker 1: day and hopefully more today. In the moment Danny Croftsman

2552
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 1: Build Special Teams coaching, he's talking about the kickoff rule,

2553
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:56,840
Speaker 1: which I have to say, Tea, as long as I've

2554
01:57:56,840 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 1: been around the league, I can't recall a changing the

2555
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 1: rules that has so much uncertainty as to how it

2556
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 1: might play out as this kickoff rule. You know, everybody's

2557
01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 1: got a different opinion. You do. You've articulated that. Sean

2558
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 1: Smith sat here and talked about how difficult it is.

2559
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 1: It's essentially a brand new play now kickoffs, and I

2560
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 1: can't recall going into a season where there's so much

2561
01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:20,560
Speaker 1: unknown about how that might play out. It's it's kind

2562
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 1: of it's kind of exciting, worry a little bit, and

2563
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:24,280
Speaker 1: it's not going to be the last time either. They're

2564
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:27,040
Speaker 1: gonna tinker further with it. And here's the thing, Murph,

2565
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 1: and we've talked about this at length because there was

2566
01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 1: a lot of rhetoric around the country, both inside football

2567
01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 1: and outside football, about what they were gonna do with

2568
01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 1: the kickoff because it was deemed, you know, the most

2569
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:40,200
Speaker 1: dangerous play and they said, you know, you should just

2570
01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 1: get rid of it and just come out and start

2571
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 1: the game on with that, and start the game with

2572
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 1: first intent on the twenty five or what have you.

2573
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 1: Just do away with it. And the league took an

2574
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:52,040
Speaker 1: interesting and I think very wise approach, said, listen, let's

2575
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 1: just make it safer, no matter what it costs. Because

2576
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:57,040
Speaker 1: here's the thing. If you say, well, the football, the

2577
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 1: kickoff is the most dangerous playing football, We're gonna we're

2578
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 1: going to omit it from our game from now on, well,

2579
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:05,960
Speaker 1: it won't be very long before they say, okay, what's now,

2580
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 1: what's the most dangerous play in football. Let's omit that

2581
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:11,839
Speaker 1: as well, you know. And so now the game starts

2582
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 1: to drastically change and becomes something different than creeping effect. Right,

2583
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 1: let's all right, now you're not gonna have punt punt return. Okay, well,

2584
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 1: now what do you do? Um? So they said, let's

2585
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:23,880
Speaker 1: make it safe and keep it in the game and

2586
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:27,560
Speaker 1: keep the foot in football and kick the ball. And

2587
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:32,160
Speaker 1: uh so this is a massive that's I think that's

2588
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:35,480
Speaker 1: an okay we're to use. It's a massive change, and

2589
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:40,400
Speaker 1: I think it speaks to the league's commitment to keeping football,

2590
01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, a kicking game. Yeah, we want to hear

2591
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 1: more from Danny Crossman. But first, well, no, let's do

2592
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:47,680
Speaker 1: it now. Danny cross I got a question for you

2593
01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:50,080
Speaker 1: about this about the where the league's going with kickoffs.

2594
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:52,720
Speaker 1: But let's hear Danny Crossman, Bill special teams coach, on

2595
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 1: his take before they played a game, a preseason game,

2596
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 1: his take on what the changes to the kickoff rule

2597
01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:03,040
Speaker 1: might mean. I think the biggest thing for me and

2598
02:00:03,080 --> 02:00:04,760
Speaker 1: I think you look around the league, it's going to

2599
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 1: be what happens and what you see in preseason. This

2600
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:13,240
Speaker 1: will be the most important preseason in terms of the

2601
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:17,920
Speaker 1: kicking game in seventeen years I've in a league. It's

2602
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:19,560
Speaker 1: going to be interesting and it's going to be important

2603
02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:23,800
Speaker 1: because to see really what people are trying to do

2604
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 1: on both sides of it, the kickoff and the kickoff return,

2605
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 1: because it really is, at the end of the day,

2606
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:32,560
Speaker 1: it's going to be a completely different play. There's going

2607
02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:34,800
Speaker 1: to be obviously a lot of the same things that

2608
02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 1: are embedded in it, but completely different play than we've

2609
02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: seen in the past. How much of a challenge coaching

2610
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,320
Speaker 1: because you guys have done things the same way for

2611
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:46,600
Speaker 1: a long time I'm play, and you probably had to

2612
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:49,000
Speaker 1: change how you coach. A lot of things there, right,

2613
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 1: change a lot of how we coach, and more importantly,

2614
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:58,880
Speaker 1: have a lot more things in our toolbox of available

2615
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:02,800
Speaker 1: based on what we're around the league. So it's gonna

2616
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 1: be fun, but it's going to be a challenge. Coach.

2617
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 1: How how much have you and your fellow coaches around

2618
02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:12,240
Speaker 1: the league, you know, insiding teams, maybe even talk to me.

2619
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:15,000
Speaker 1: You guys are in a small way making some history

2620
02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:17,320
Speaker 1: this year with these changes. I mean, this is a

2621
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:22,320
Speaker 1: dynamic change that in a way is someone history making. Toaches, Well,

2622
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:26,520
Speaker 1: I think so. But here's the way I look at it. Okay,

2623
02:01:26,960 --> 02:01:32,320
Speaker 1: Number one, safer. If it does what the league anticipates,

2624
02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:33,920
Speaker 1: it's going to make it a safer play, which is

2625
02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:37,080
Speaker 1: what we all care about. And I think what we're

2626
02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:41,400
Speaker 1: all hoping is the byproduct of that is a more

2627
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:46,040
Speaker 1: exciting play. So if you get safer and more exciting,

2628
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:51,800
Speaker 1: I think it's a win win for everybody. Danny Crossman

2629
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:54,360
Speaker 1: is a build special teams coach. You think that, right,

2630
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:56,680
Speaker 1: I mean we all nobody knows, but I'm getting the

2631
02:01:56,720 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 1: sense that you think it could be a more exciting

2632
02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:01,840
Speaker 1: play more kick returns because I think if they're gonna

2633
02:02:01,880 --> 02:02:03,680
Speaker 1: kick it to the guys and have them return it,

2634
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:05,960
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some space for the returner

2635
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 1: to get started and make guys miss. I think there's

2636
02:02:09,120 --> 02:02:11,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very difficult to keep them corralled with

2637
02:02:11,640 --> 02:02:14,400
Speaker 1: that much space between the coverage team and the returner,

2638
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:16,640
Speaker 1: And if they can figure out how to time it

2639
02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:20,440
Speaker 1: up just so, it's hard not to have. It's hard

2640
02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:22,800
Speaker 1: not to be able to find a gap in there

2641
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:25,360
Speaker 1: as a return man. So I'm I'm really optimistic that

2642
02:02:25,360 --> 02:02:30,120
Speaker 1: when teams do decide to kick a returnable ball that

2643
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:34,240
Speaker 1: uh they're giving, they may they're running a risk that

2644
02:02:34,280 --> 02:02:35,880
Speaker 1: it's going to come back at them. You were in

2645
02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:38,480
Speaker 1: on the ground floor for the league meetings on kickoffs.

2646
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 1: You were one of the special invitees. I heard someone

2647
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:44,120
Speaker 1: talking about the rule and talking about watching tonight's preseason game,

2648
02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:47,360
Speaker 1: someone say, well, this rule is just the next step

2649
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:50,800
Speaker 1: in the intable, inevitable elimination of kickoffs in the NFL.

2650
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't see it that way. It's not gonna know

2651
02:02:52,720 --> 02:02:54,680
Speaker 1: they're I think they're wrong. I think the league is

2652
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 1: committed to making it safe enough for the guys to

2653
02:02:56,800 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 1: play it. And because of that, you know, I don't

2654
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:04,839
Speaker 1: think it's gonna go anywhere. I think the league's committed

2655
02:03:04,840 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 1: to saving it and making doing what they have to do,

2656
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:09,320
Speaker 1: because let's face that, the NFL is notorious for changing

2657
02:03:09,320 --> 02:03:10,800
Speaker 1: the rules. We've been talking. We talked about it was

2658
02:03:10,840 --> 02:03:13,240
Speaker 1: Shaun Smith, the official, came on, talked about the helmet rule,

2659
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:17,120
Speaker 1: the catch rule, the new kickoff rules. They change. The

2660
02:03:17,200 --> 02:03:19,080
Speaker 1: league changes the rules all the time. We talk about

2661
02:03:19,120 --> 02:03:20,880
Speaker 1: it all off season, and people have made a big

2662
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:23,400
Speaker 1: deal about it. They're not afraid to change the game

2663
02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:26,440
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form if it means more

2664
02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 1: interest or sustained interests. And I think that's what you're

2665
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:31,320
Speaker 1: talking about in the kickoffs. They want people to be,

2666
02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, to keep the game like it has always

2667
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:35,720
Speaker 1: been as much as they can make it as safe

2668
02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 1: as possible. Now they'll change whatever they need to to

2669
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 1: do that all right time now for NFL. True or

2670
02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:43,960
Speaker 1: False Presented by Yancy's Fancy, New York's Artists and Cheese.

2671
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:45,680
Speaker 1: I think one of these days, on the way home,

2672
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:48,160
Speaker 1: we're not riding together today, we should stop at Yancy's Fancy.

2673
02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 1: There's a little shop there you can buy some cheese.

2674
02:03:52,120 --> 02:03:54,760
Speaker 1: You're the guy driving the car. All right, We're gonna stop,

2675
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 1: turn the wheel wherever you want to stop and get

2676
02:03:56,680 --> 02:03:59,200
Speaker 1: you some cheese and Yancey's Fancy. We'll do it New

2677
02:03:59,280 --> 02:04:01,760
Speaker 1: York's artist. And you have a favorite Yancy Oh yeah,

2678
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:05,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo Wing. Yeah, Buffalo Wing Cheddar it's hot, it's good,

2679
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:08,680
Speaker 1: but you know it's great, just their regular cheddars. So

2680
02:04:08,720 --> 02:04:10,000
Speaker 1: if we go in there, am I gonna be able

2681
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:11,760
Speaker 1: to try some of these before I drop down my

2682
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 1: hard earned money and I'll buy it for you. I

2683
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:15,080
Speaker 1: don't know if they have t Yeah, they do. They

2684
02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:16,640
Speaker 1: usually have a couple of Jake. Do you have that

2685
02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:18,560
Speaker 1: on tape that he's gonna buy that for me? I'll

2686
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 1: get Do I need a digital file of that? Skip?

2687
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:24,360
Speaker 1: NFL true falls? Just continue with the cheese talk. I know.

2688
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:27,640
Speaker 1: Cheese talk over NFL true or false is brought to

2689
02:04:27,640 --> 02:04:31,000
Speaker 1: you by Cheese Yancey's Fancy. Kirk Cousins will lead the

2690
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:35,560
Speaker 1: NFL and touchdown passes. This is an assertion made by somebody.

2691
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. Minnesota Vikings think that that could happen. Um, look,

2692
02:04:40,240 --> 02:04:42,600
Speaker 1: it could happen. I like what they've done there. I mean,

2693
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:45,280
Speaker 1: I like John d. Philippo, their new offensive coordinator, who

2694
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:48,040
Speaker 1: was a great coach with the Eagles last year. I

2695
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:51,200
Speaker 1: like the weapons they have at Minnesota. Will he lead

2696
02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:54,360
Speaker 1: the league in touchdown passes? No? I don't put Kirk

2697
02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:58,160
Speaker 1: Cousins in the same categories Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Roethlisberger,

2698
02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:00,680
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. No, he's not gonna leave the league Rivers. No,

2699
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:04,080
Speaker 1: he's the next tier. He's the next level false out.

2700
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:07,440
Speaker 1: He's at like Smith, He's Andy Dalton. Yeah, that's who

2701
02:05:07,480 --> 02:05:09,480
Speaker 1: he is. I'm at. So, No, he's not gonna do that.

2702
02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 1: And I agree with you one hundred percent. He's they've

2703
02:05:11,520 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 1: got they've got a great roster. And another thing, and

2704
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 1: not talk too much fantasy football, but the Vikings defense

2705
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:21,680
Speaker 1: is so good they're not They're gonna be sitting on

2706
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:23,920
Speaker 1: the ball a lot. You know, they're not gonna be

2707
02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:25,760
Speaker 1: airing it out on all these games, even if they

2708
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:29,240
Speaker 1: have the ability to do it. Mike Zimmer is too

2709
02:05:29,240 --> 02:05:31,200
Speaker 1: smart a coach to put the ball up for grabs.

2710
02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:33,080
Speaker 1: And when he's got a fifteen point lead in the

2711
02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:35,000
Speaker 1: third quarter, you know, or twenty point lead in the

2712
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:36,680
Speaker 1: third quarter, and this is a team that's gonna be

2713
02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:40,640
Speaker 1: very much a defense. They're gonna be hard to score on,

2714
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:42,840
Speaker 1: so they're not gonna need to score thirty five points.

2715
02:05:42,880 --> 02:05:44,520
Speaker 1: So no, I don't think Kirk Cousins gonna be airing

2716
02:05:44,560 --> 02:05:46,280
Speaker 1: it out enough in the fourth quarter to put those

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02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:48,120
Speaker 1: kind of numbers up, even if he was able. True

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02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:50,640
Speaker 1: or false Question number two This I find this question

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02:05:50,760 --> 02:05:52,840
Speaker 1: very interesting and it deals with tonight's game, right the

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02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:56,440
Speaker 1: Bears and the Batomo Ravens. Interesting here This was on

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. True or false. Mitchell Trubisky, quarterback Chicago Bears,

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02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:04,400
Speaker 1: has more upside than Lamar Jackson, rookie quarterback for the

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02:06:04,440 --> 02:06:08,440
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. True false. I gotta think about it. I'm

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02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:11,720
Speaker 1: gonna go true. I think Trubisky does, mostly because I

2725
02:06:11,840 --> 02:06:16,240
Speaker 1: look at Trubisky as Steve, a conventional pocket passer who

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02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:19,640
Speaker 1: probably has probably has a better career track ahead of

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02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:22,360
Speaker 1: him than Lamar Jackson, who starts, first of all, playing

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02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 1: behind Joe Flacco. He might be able to take care

2729
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 1: of that quickly and too, just as a different style,

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02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:32,040
Speaker 1: a style that doesn't normally produce long term quarterback play

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02:06:32,080 --> 02:06:34,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So I think about this. I thought

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02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:36,440
Speaker 1: about this a lot when I saw the question, But

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02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's true. Trubisky has more upside a

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02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:41,560
Speaker 1: better future than Lamar Jackson in the NFL. I think

2735
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:44,880
Speaker 1: immediately speaking, there's no question it's true because Lamar Jackson

2736
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:46,080
Speaker 1: is not going to see the field as long as

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02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:49,000
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco's a Baltimore Raven. Mitchell Trubisky is the starter

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02:06:49,120 --> 02:06:51,840
Speaker 1: for the Chicago Bears, and he's in. He's the guy

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02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:53,960
Speaker 1: they're depending on. He showed enough last year that he

2740
02:06:54,040 --> 02:06:56,000
Speaker 1: got the job and it's his team. So in the

2741
02:06:56,120 --> 02:06:58,480
Speaker 1: media future, there's no question, and you're right, Murf that

2742
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:01,880
Speaker 1: style thing that the league is built and it's officiated

2743
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:03,840
Speaker 1: to have guys who stand in the pocket and throw

2744
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:08,320
Speaker 1: the football and win games. Lamar Jackson, if he can

2745
02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:12,120
Speaker 1: do that, could be every bit the quarterback Mitch Trubisky is,

2746
02:07:12,160 --> 02:07:15,600
Speaker 1: but there's too much unknown about his ability to do that,

2747
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:19,240
Speaker 1: and his style coming out of college was not that.

2748
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:22,160
Speaker 1: So I would say, yeah, Mitch Trubisky does have him

2749
02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 1: more higher upside than Lamar Jackson, even though he's nowhere

2750
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:29,360
Speaker 1: near the athlete Lamar Jackson is all right NFL true

2751
02:07:29,400 --> 02:07:32,120
Speaker 1: or false. This is question number three. The Kansas City

2752
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:36,720
Speaker 1: Chiefs have the NFL's best group of past receivers Kelsey. Obviously,

2753
02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm reading a post that's on a television station from

2754
02:07:40,480 --> 02:07:43,560
Speaker 1: Kansas City KSHB that who asserts this. They say the

2755
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:45,760
Speaker 1: Chiefs have the best group of receivers in the NFL.

2756
02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:48,400
Speaker 1: Well on false here, and the main reason they say

2757
02:07:48,440 --> 02:07:51,360
Speaker 1: it's it's Sammy Watkins. Sure, Watkins may have you know,

2758
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 1: may have some plays to make for Kansas City, but

2759
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:56,960
Speaker 1: he has not done that consistently throughout his NFL career yet.

2760
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:58,960
Speaker 1: And with that in mind, I'd be reluctant to say

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02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:01,480
Speaker 1: they have the best group. I don't think they do. Yeah,

2762
02:08:01,640 --> 02:08:03,440
Speaker 1: And off the top of my head, would be hard

2763
02:08:03,480 --> 02:08:07,400
Speaker 1: to come up with a better group because you gotta

2764
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:09,240
Speaker 1: have the names. I don't know I would. I would

2765
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:13,520
Speaker 1: say probably no. I although, um, Sammy Watkins gives him

2766
02:08:13,520 --> 02:08:16,400
Speaker 1: a little something. They've got Tyreek Hill. I think the

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02:08:16,600 --> 02:08:18,720
Speaker 1: Rams have a better group of Rams might have. Yeah,

2768
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:22,720
Speaker 1: the Rams might have a better group. I could probably,

2769
02:08:22,720 --> 02:08:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm just looking. I could probably find six or eighteen.

2770
02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:28,560
Speaker 1: They're good, no question about it. But then again, case

2771
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:30,800
Speaker 1: Keendom's gonna be throwing the football, and as good as

2772
02:08:30,840 --> 02:08:33,440
Speaker 1: he played last year, that's not who he was as

2773
02:08:33,480 --> 02:08:35,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback for his career, Is that right? Case? Keendom

2774
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:41,000
Speaker 1: is now a Pat. Pat Mahomes is Pat Mahomes, Pat Mahomes,

2775
02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:43,560
Speaker 1: and that's he asks you, right, God, that I wasn't

2776
02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:47,879
Speaker 1: thinking about the Denver Broncos. Um. Wow, see, because everybody's

2777
02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:51,000
Speaker 1: raving about my homes. Have you seen the recent reports

2778
02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:53,839
Speaker 1: coming out of Kansas City camp though they're talking Mahomes

2779
02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 1: had a very difficult day yesterday at least, I don't

2780
02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:58,160
Speaker 1: know if I have time to find it here. Bro,

2781
02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying everybody they're worried about my homes. Already

2782
02:09:01,600 --> 02:09:04,000
Speaker 1: in Kansas City they were talking about there's people all

2783
02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:06,760
Speaker 1: over the world telling Hugh Pat Mahomes is gonna tear

2784
02:09:06,800 --> 02:09:09,320
Speaker 1: the league up. That literally use those words. They're gonna

2785
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:12,440
Speaker 1: tear the NFL. He's gonna tear the NFL up. So

2786
02:09:13,720 --> 02:09:17,560
Speaker 1: he could be good and with those guys, he can

2787
02:09:17,560 --> 02:09:20,160
Speaker 1: make them better. But you know me, I'm best receiver.

2788
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:22,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be who has the best guy throwing to him?

2789
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:26,000
Speaker 1: Is who's gonna be has seven interceptions and six practices

2790
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:29,600
Speaker 1: for Pat Mahomes. Adam Tiker, who covers the chiefs for ESPN,

2791
02:09:30,360 --> 02:09:33,880
Speaker 1: said that he's really struggling, really struggling. Look, it's only

2792
02:09:33,880 --> 02:09:36,080
Speaker 1: a week in the camp. That's why you're laughing. I'm

2793
02:09:36,120 --> 02:09:37,800
Speaker 1: just saying, come on, it's not a great start to

2794
02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:40,960
Speaker 1: training camp for Pat Mahomes. It has not been. They

2795
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:43,640
Speaker 1: need to calm down again. I'm calmed down in Kansas City.

2796
02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:46,720
Speaker 1: They'll be all right. But I here's the thing, and

2797
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'll stick with this. It doesn't matter who their

2798
02:09:49,680 --> 02:09:52,040
Speaker 1: pass catchers are, matters who's pulling the trigger. The best

2799
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:54,360
Speaker 1: quarterback is going to have the best pass catchers. You know,

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02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:56,560
Speaker 1: it's interesting too about Kansas City and we may experience

2801
02:09:56,560 --> 02:09:58,560
Speaker 1: some of this too, and just quickly, and I read

2802
02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:01,200
Speaker 1: this earlier today too. So you go from Alex Smith

2803
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:04,720
Speaker 1: last year who never throws interceptions, to Pat Mahomes, who

2804
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:07,680
Speaker 1: has seven interceptions, and so they're probably all really like, WHOA,

2805
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:09,640
Speaker 1: We're not used to having a quarterback throw it away.

2806
02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:11,680
Speaker 1: We might get some of that here this year, you

2807
02:10:11,680 --> 02:10:13,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Oh yeah, we've and we've kind

2808
02:10:13,280 --> 02:10:14,960
Speaker 1: of talked about that too. The Bills are going to

2809
02:10:15,040 --> 02:10:16,680
Speaker 1: turn the ball over more than they did a year ago.

2810
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:18,800
Speaker 1: And the question is can their defense keep up with

2811
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:21,160
Speaker 1: the pace they did or even improve on it with

2812
02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:24,120
Speaker 1: a better pass rush, better run defense and the secondary.

2813
02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:29,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're you're these teams. It's a year to

2814
02:10:29,440 --> 02:10:32,600
Speaker 1: year thing. And and Tyrod Taylor did not turn it over,

2815
02:10:32,680 --> 02:10:35,680
Speaker 1: but he didn't take any chances. Are you where's the balance?

2816
02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:38,000
Speaker 1: Are you gonna go with more risk and have more

2817
02:10:38,040 --> 02:10:41,400
Speaker 1: plays come your way? And or are you gonna, you know,

2818
02:10:41,480 --> 02:10:44,560
Speaker 1: kind of go into your shell, not take chances and

2819
02:10:44,920 --> 02:10:46,920
Speaker 1: live with what you get and lean on your defense

2820
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:50,240
Speaker 1: and play that you know, the boring football, Yeah, the

2821
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:52,920
Speaker 1: boring defensive football that you know that they all say

2822
02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:56,280
Speaker 1: wins championships. Well, we'll see NFL True and False. Brought

2823
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Speaker 1: to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artists in chief

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. We had quarterback AJ mccaron on

2831
02:11:29,080 --> 02:11:31,400
Speaker 1: the show here today and got his take on the

2832
02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:34,200
Speaker 1: three men quarterback competition going on here at training camp.

2833
02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:39,360
Speaker 1: I just go out execute the plays I have, you know,

2834
02:11:39,400 --> 02:11:42,120
Speaker 1: however many reps it is, and kind of just staying

2835
02:11:42,120 --> 02:11:44,839
Speaker 1: that mondframe. Because when you don't stay in that mindframe,

2836
02:11:44,920 --> 02:11:47,520
Speaker 1: you allow you know, like I say all the time,

2837
02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:51,120
Speaker 1: mental clutter, you know, not only for yourself, but then

2838
02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:54,120
Speaker 1: it affects how you play. It affects how you treat

2839
02:11:54,160 --> 02:11:57,040
Speaker 1: other people, It affects how you treat the offense as

2840
02:11:57,040 --> 02:12:00,480
Speaker 1: a group. And I don't I don't want that to happen.

2841
02:12:00,600 --> 02:12:04,000
Speaker 1: So I kind of just focus on my plays, what

2842
02:12:04,120 --> 02:12:07,560
Speaker 1: I have to do, the type of player and teammate

2843
02:12:07,640 --> 02:12:11,160
Speaker 1: and quarterback I need to be, and then whenever they

2844
02:12:11,240 --> 02:12:15,400
Speaker 1: decide that less what I mean, the only thing you

2845
02:12:15,440 --> 02:12:17,840
Speaker 1: can do is play the cards you're dealt and playing

2846
02:12:17,840 --> 02:12:22,840
Speaker 1: them to the best possibility possible way you can. Hey,

2847
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:24,600
Speaker 1: J McCarran, ay, see if I didn't follow off of

2848
02:12:24,680 --> 02:12:27,080
Speaker 1: them because we didn't have time, But what do you think,

2849
02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:28,480
Speaker 1: you man? When he said, if I'm focused on the

2850
02:12:28,520 --> 02:12:31,280
Speaker 1: quarterback competition. It affects the way, it affects the way

2851
02:12:31,320 --> 02:12:33,400
Speaker 1: you treat your teammates. We only got a few seconds, Yeah,

2852
02:12:33,400 --> 02:12:35,520
Speaker 1: because you start cheering against guys, you know, I mean,

2853
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:37,520
Speaker 1: you don't want to be that kind of guy. You

2854
02:12:37,600 --> 02:12:39,800
Speaker 1: got to just worry about playing as good as you

2855
02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:41,720
Speaker 1: can play. If you play as good as you can play,

2856
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:43,640
Speaker 1: you can live the rest of your life without regret,

2857
02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:45,080
Speaker 1: even if you go on to be the starter and

2858
02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:47,080
Speaker 1: do all great things. But you want to make sure

2859
02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:50,160
Speaker 1: that you can end this quarterback competition still friends with

2860
02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:51,880
Speaker 1: the guys you were competing with and be there. And

2861
02:12:52,200 --> 02:12:54,600
Speaker 1: it's very much possible that happens all the time. All Right,

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02:12:54,640 --> 02:12:56,720
Speaker 1: we gotta show tomorrow from March Your park Our production

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Speaker 1: j Rito, Kevin Carji's, James Robot. Our producer Jay Harris,

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02:13:03,480 --> 02:13:05,760
Speaker 1: set to mur at noon from our studio Linop one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio.