1 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: Is continuing coverage of the twenty twenty six NFL Combine 2 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: by from Indianapolis on the Steelers Audio Network, presented by 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: First National Bank. Can your bank do that? Welcome to FNB. 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: Let's get started. 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: Member FDIC Iron Workers Local Union number three. We don't 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: go to the office, We build it. Schneider Downs discover 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: the value of big thinking with a personal focus at 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Schneiderdowns dot Com your neighborhood Ford store. The Ford F 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: one fifty is the official truck of the Pittsburgh Steelers 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: and by US deal mine melted, made in the USA. 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 4: It's the Drive live on Radio Row at the twenty 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: twenty six NFL Scouting Combine. West Ruler Matt Williamson, and 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 4: we are leading off today with power hitter Barry Bonds. 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 4: Yeah right, Wayne Gretzky, the great one. Dane Brugler joins us. 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 4: If you've listen to our show for more than five seconds, 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 4: you've heard us reference Dane plenty throughout this draft process. 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: Of course, draft analyst for the athletic author of the Beast, 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 4: one of our favorite people to talk to you here 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 4: every single year. 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: Dane, what's up? Man? 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 5: Have you slept it all yet this week I see 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 5: you guys my pure hit points to introduce me. Thank 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 5: you to that. 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 2: Check out the Building of the Beast podcast as well. 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: How about that development. 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 5: It's been a lot of fun kind of take people 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 5: through the process of you know, the scouting process of 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 5: this during the season, into the draft process, all Star 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 5: season on the combine. It's crazy how it's flying. I mean, 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 5: we're we're on our way. So yeah, it's good to 32 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 5: see you guys. 33 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: So we look at the quarterback aside. I mean, it's 34 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: almost a whole different conversation for this team, and it 35 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: has been for five years. Wide receiver's got to be 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: a big thing to address here, especially going to a 37 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: McCarthy offense with three receivers on the field. Not so 38 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: tight end centric. But it looks like a really strong 39 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: receiver draft through the first two days. Yeah, do you 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: think there'll be good options of twenty one one without 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: having to move? And if you happen to go a 42 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: different direction, do you think you'd be happy with the 43 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: Day two stuff as well? So you Dons have three 44 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: third round. 45 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 5: Picks well, and I had seventeen receivers in my top 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 5: one hundred. Yeah, and that's that reflects the depth I think, 47 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 5: even though I don't think this draft has a Molik 48 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 5: Neighbors or you know, like that clear guy at the 49 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 5: top that it's like, all right, this is a you know, 50 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 5: you draft him top five and yeah, exactly. I don't 51 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 5: think this draft necessarily has that. But the depth, Yeah, 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 5: and it depends on what type of receiver you want. 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 5: You know, you want the X. Okay, Denzel Boston, you know, 54 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: you like the way you play. You want more of 55 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 5: that slot player, want more of the Z. 56 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't hesitate with Boston at twenty one, 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: and assuming he runs decent this week. 58 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 5: No, if I'm if I was looking for a big, physical, X, 59 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 5: a guy that would give me some inside versatility as 60 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 5: a big slot yeah, I would be perfectly fine with that. 61 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 5: I'd tell you the player I'm interested in with with 62 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Jordan Tyson. Okay, I reported last night he's not 63 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 5: gonna work out here at the at the combine your 64 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 5: crush your fingers. You're able to see him work out 65 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 5: before the draft, but no guarantees. There are some medicals, right, 66 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 5: it's a hamstring that's bothered him during the season, and 67 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 5: you know still like I think if there's a game tomorrow, 68 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 5: he could probably gut it out. But it's like, Okay, 69 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 5: do I really want to strain and hurt it more 70 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 5: when you know, just to run a forty. 71 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: Yard down that kind of thing. Because I don't think 72 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: he'll be a medical reject. 73 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 5: So that's the big question mark is the durability with him. 74 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 5: He had the knee as a freshman at Colorado. As 75 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 5: long as the knees, I'm more worried about the knee, 76 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 5: I guess, just making sure there's no long term worries 77 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 5: with the knee. 78 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: The call. 79 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: He had a collarbone last year and I think that'll 80 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 5: be fine. The hamstring is more of a rest issue, 81 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 5: you know. It's I think he'll be fine long term. 82 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 5: Hopefully the medical staffs they you know that that this 83 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 5: will be a big way for him. And as he 84 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 5: goes through the gauntlet and every team looks at him physically. 85 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 5: But now that he's not gonna be able to work 86 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 5: out here at the combine, maybe for the draft, I 87 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: don't know who knows, does they're a little bit of 88 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 5: a discount sticker on him now where before you because 89 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 5: I think on a tape he's a top twelve player 90 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 5: in this draft. Okay, Now it's like, okay, if I'm 91 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 5: the Browns are twenty four Steelers a you know, twenty one, 92 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 5: that all of a sudden, it's a lot more realistic that, hey, 93 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 5: this could be an option for us when we didn't 94 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 5: think so. Maybe just looking at the tape. 95 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: Kin's Ward's position coach too. 96 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 5: Exactly exactly, And so that's something where it's it's a 97 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 5: fun story. But you also you know the way he 98 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 5: was coached, you know the way he was pushed. You're 99 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 5: not gonna get any better intel from a coaching staff 100 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 5: because sometimes you know, coaches can tell you what you 101 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 5: want to hear, but you feel like kinds of words 102 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 5: gonna give it to you straight. 103 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet. 104 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 4: How do you feel about those big three names at receiver, 105 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 4: Tate Lemon and of course how like do you what 106 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 4: you're pecking order for those guys? And who do you 107 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: think is it is Tate the one who's wide receiver 108 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: one at this point or is that still. 109 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: Up in the air. 110 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: Are they in their own tier as well? 111 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? I think so. And for me, he is you know, 112 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 5: he's I love him as a z where I'm eager 113 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 5: to see what he runs, because you don't watch him 114 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 5: and say, oh, he's a burner. But he's got those 115 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 5: long strides where he eats up grass so fast and 116 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 5: so he gets on top of the defense and he's 117 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 5: a he's a big time player down the field, tracks 118 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 5: the ball well, really good and contested situations. I think 119 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 5: it was like twelve or fourteen this year, which is bananas. 120 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 5: He's one of the better sideline receivers that have evaluated, 121 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 5: not just this year but ever, which I think is 122 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 5: a very underrated trait. His ability to tiptoe along the 123 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 5: sideline that balance and then also so long that he 124 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 5: pulls throws back into play when they're out of bounds. 125 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 5: So the catch radius, the toughness at the catch point, 126 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 5: the ability to get vertical, and the steps he took 127 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 5: this year as a just to become a more proficient 128 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 5: route runner really impressed with and so he was really 129 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 5: productive for a team that he was never needed to 130 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 5: be the number one, you know, with the mecha Buka 131 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 5: there last year and Jeremy Smith and then jeremih Smith 132 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 5: this past year. 133 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: So those O High State guys have been pretty productive 134 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: in the pros. 135 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 5: Not bad yeah, you can name a few, right, and 136 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 5: at this time next year will be gushing about Jeremiah 137 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 5: Smith and sure how different he is. But yeah, I 138 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 5: think Carnell Tate. He coming into this year, I liked him. 139 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 5: I saw more as a borderline first second round guy. 140 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 5: The way he performed this year, he put himself in 141 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 5: that top fifteen mix for sure. 142 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: So lemon watching him, I think, boy, there's no way 143 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: he gets to twenty one. I mean, just a really 144 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 2: good football player, right, But we know how this process works. 145 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 2: I mean, sure we could leave this week and say 146 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: he's small and slow. 147 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 5: Ye not for everybody. 148 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of thing. 149 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 5: And I think you just said something that I think 150 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 5: is the theme of this draft, at least the top 151 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 5: half of the draft is just drafted football players. Yeah, 152 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 5: you know, I think we get we can get so 153 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 5: caught up and you have a scouting background, you know, 154 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 5: like it's so easy to chase the high end traits 155 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 5: and chase the upside, and I get. 156 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: That, but this draft pre positions aren't as strong a. 157 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 5: Safety running back. You're talking about two of the best 158 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 5: players in this draft with Caleb Downs and Jeremiah love 159 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 5: Sonny Styles is a top five player in this draft. 160 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 5: In my opinion, he's a off ball linebacker. So yeah, 161 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 5: I think it's it's less about hitting those premium positions, 162 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 5: chasing the trades, and more about just draftked football players. 163 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 5: And Makaia Lemon kind of falls in that territory where 164 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 5: and I joke that his his rookie contract, one percent 165 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 5: of that should go to Almon Rossaint Brown, Yeah, because 166 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 5: I think that really gives you a path of Hey, 167 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 5: this is how he's going to play. This is how 168 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 5: to win with a player like this, And maybe we're 169 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 5: not talking about him as a top fifteen pick without 170 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 5: if a Saint Brown just never existed. But he's not 171 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 5: a slot only player. But I think he's best in 172 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 5: the slots where you want him to use the middle 173 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 5: of the field, so strong through contact, his ability to 174 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 5: manipulate the coverage, and then after as well, he's so 175 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 5: efficient going from catcher to runner, so he can make 176 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 5: something happen with the racks. 177 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: So you don't think that's an exaggeration to compare him 178 00:07:58,880 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: to Saint Brown, at least. 179 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 5: Style stylistically, I think it's spot off. Yeah, that's if 180 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 5: you want that type of player, you're gonna love Makay Lemon, 181 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 5: and it's it's always it's a fine needle to threat, right, 182 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 5: because there's one of those guys. And so you're really 183 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 5: gonna put every all your chips in on a guy 184 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 5: that's gonna turn out to be just like this one player. 185 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 5: So there is risk involved for sure, especially when we 186 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 5: get his verified numbers in terms of the size. And 187 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 5: I don't know if he's gonna run here. I know 188 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 5: he's gonna do position drills. I don't know if he's 189 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 5: gonna run. But you're not drafting him because he's faster 190 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 5: than everybody else. He is just tougher and better than 191 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 5: everybody else. And so yeah, I think I don't think 192 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 5: he's gonna get to where the Steelers are drafting, somewhere 193 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 5: top sixteen, somewhere the top half a round one. I 194 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 5: think he's gonna go. 195 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: So the Steelers have what is it, five picks in 196 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 4: the top one hundred, They have four picks on day two. 197 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: So if it's not wide receiver at twenty one, is 198 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 4: there anybody in kind of that second wave, that second 199 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: crop that stands out to you at this point at receiver? 200 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 5: I mean, I like casey concepts you own as kind 201 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 5: of that next guy. You know, you have to live 202 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 5: with some of the drops. But he's explosive, he gets open, 203 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 5: and he's another guy that you give them a little 204 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 5: bit of space. He can go the distance punt returner 205 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 5: as well. So conception, she own another guy meager to 206 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 5: see if he runs here because he's fast on film. 207 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 5: We'll see how that translates to the forty Boston. Like 208 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 5: we said, he's more of that prototypical X big player 209 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 5: can use his frame. Just not many six three and 210 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 5: a half receivers that size that can go make a 211 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 5: play and it doesn't matter if he's covered, he can 212 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 5: still go make a play. I think go more Cooper 213 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 5: juniors in that mix as well. 214 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 215 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 5: Fields, Yeah, it Fields. He's he's another good football player. 216 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 5: I don't know, I can't get quite there in the 217 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 5: first round with him. 218 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just take second round. 219 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think if you wait to the second round, 220 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 5: I think him. You know, it's it's unfortunate Chris Bell 221 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 5: had the A C L because he was you know, 222 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 5: it's just six' three two twenty, five have his, explosiveness his. 223 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 5: Power he's a guy it's easy to get excited. About 224 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 5: he's just THE acl really clouds his. Future but good football. 225 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: Player So Elmore cohn spoke today and that's when what 226 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: we've talked about most over the course of the, day 227 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 2: and just reading between the tea, LEAVES i kind of 228 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 2: get the feeling That, Ramsey Jalen ramsey could probably go 229 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: back to slot corner and not, safety thus creating a 230 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: pretty big need at a safety slash free safety spot 231 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: downs is going to be. Gone But toledo Or, oregon 232 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: would you consider one of those guys at twenty? One 233 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: do you think they're Worth, yeah kind of lean in 234 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: that direction. 235 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 5: Lately, well it's funny because McNeil warren From toledo one 236 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 5: of my favorite players SINCE i watched him in the 237 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 5: summer and you, know did a good story on him 238 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 5: during the, year And Jason, kandell the head coach At, 239 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 5: toledo found. Him he was just shooting baskets in the 240 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 5: in the gym and oh really, said do you play? 241 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 5: Football like? Yeah and next thing you, know he's got 242 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 5: an offer and so and he had offered to go 243 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 5: transfer and go up to THE fbi or he was ALREADY, 244 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 5: fbs but go up to a big ten or bigger. 245 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 5: Program and he stayed. Put he was loyal To candle 246 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 5: in that coaching, staff AND i think they it worked 247 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 5: out for him because he has a good chance to 248 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 5: be a somewhere in the top thirty five. Picks but 249 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 5: he is a really long. Player he can, tackle he 250 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 5: can go find the. Ball, fimn he has a chance 251 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 5: to really help himself this. Week WHAT i, thought he's 252 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 5: a big time, athlete you, know back to His purdue, 253 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 5: days playing single high and covering both. Sidelines BUT i 254 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 5: think what you like about him is how versatile he 255 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 5: is as a. Safety you want him to cover, space 256 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 5: he can do. That you wanted to be a, nickel 257 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 5: he can do that. Too you, know you want him 258 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 5: to disguise. COVERAGES i think you can be really creative 259 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 5: with him because he's a good. Athlete he's a smart, 260 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 5: player and he's tough and you, know give a crap 261 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 5: factor is. High he really. Cares, Yeah and so those 262 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 5: are the type of guys THAT i think you want 263 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 5: to bet, on and so especially after what he does this, 264 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 5: Week fianomn and McNeil, WARREN i think both have a 265 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 5: shot to go top twenty. 266 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: Five the other POSITION i would ask you about in 267 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: a similar, light is just a pure defensive. Tackle could 268 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: the dude From, Florida. 269 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: Caleb banks or one of these Hunter Peter? 270 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: Woods could? THEY i could See woods having a big. 271 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: Week one of those guys get in that mix of 272 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: surefire first, round mid first. 273 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 5: Round Caleb, Banks i'm very excited to see this. WEEK 274 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 5: i talked to him last week just about kind of 275 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 5: making up for lost time because he coming into the, 276 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 5: year he had first and second on grace from scouts 277 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 5: over the summer and then had the foot, injury tried 278 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 5: to come back and came back for the third game 279 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 5: of the, year got hurt, again had to have the. 280 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 5: Surgery most guys are shutting it down at that. Point not. 281 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 5: Him he came back for like the last two games 282 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 5: of the, year even Though florida was a bad, team 283 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 5: WHICH i think really says something about him as a 284 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 5: person and a. Competitor but you just don't find six 285 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: six three thirty five thirty five inch, arms eleven inch. 286 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 5: Haance you don't find that guys that are, disruptive move, 287 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: well good. Athletes, still it plays a little high, time that's. 288 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 5: It and at that size you're going to be able to. 289 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 5: Leverage is going to be an issue for. You he's 290 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 5: still learning how to work around. That BUT i, GUYS 291 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: i think it was a twenty twenty four LSU. T 292 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 5: BUT i just keep going back to and how dominant 293 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 5: he was at many points during that. 294 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: Year it's just the. 295 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 5: Injuries you have to be comfortable with where he is durability, 296 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 5: wise but the, traits no doubt about, it top ten. 297 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 5: Traits it's just how much of a how much can 298 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 5: you stomach? Him you, know be comfortable with where he 299 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: is with the. Durability, OKAY i think. 300 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: We'd be remiss if we didn't ask you about these. 301 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 4: Quarterbacks, Obviously mendoza number, one we know he's going to. 302 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 4: Be he's, done, deal sign, sealed delivered at this. Point 303 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: but if someone like Ty sampson's there at twenty one 304 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 4: for The, steelers is that a real? Option do you 305 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 4: like him in that range or you think there's someone 306 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: else who could maybe usurp him and become THAT qb 307 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 4: two in this. 308 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 5: Class i'd be, surprised just because there's not a lot 309 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 5: of competitors for, That LIKE i Like, garrettnsmeyer BUT i 310 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 5: JUST i think it'll be tough for him to get 311 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 5: up that. High Cole payton's a fun player For North SCOTO. 312 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: Si so was gonna ask you about? Him, YEAH i 313 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: wouldn't mind a third round flyer On Cole. 314 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 5: Payton it's he's in this tough spot because he it's 315 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 5: funny coming out Of nebraska in high. School he went 316 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 5: To North Goota state Thinking i'm gonna play because they 317 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 5: were Losing Trey. Lance so he goes to The North 318 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 5: Goota state thinking he's gonna get on the. Field but 319 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 5: Cam miller's, there who starts for four, years and then 320 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 5: The raiders drafted him last, year so finally gets on 321 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 5: the field as a, starter and you, know talking to 322 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 5: scouts over the summer about, him they were thinking about 323 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 5: him as a tight end convert because he's a, big 324 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 5: size kid and a good. Athlete toughness is off the 325 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 5: charts and so but the tape he produced this year, shows, 326 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 5: okay he's a, quarterback big, lefty but he needs more. 327 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 5: Reps but he's not ready FOR nfl. Competition so he's 328 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 5: kind of in that middle ground where you wish he 329 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 5: had one more year of, eligibility or you wish AND 330 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 5: i fold had some kind of A g league where 331 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 5: he could go get those valuable reps without you, know 332 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 5: having to make him your. Starter so he's kind of 333 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 5: in that middle, ground which is, tough but, yeah he's 334 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: really super. Intriguing. Tie both these Guys Cole Cole payton thirteen, 335 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 5: Starts Ty simpson fifteen, starts and just going back to 336 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 5: the last fifteen, years the quarterbacks that had fifteen or 337 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 5: fewer starts in, college it's. Brutal, Trubisky Anthony, Richardson Dwayne. Haskins, 338 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 5: yeah and he had like, Seventeen like it's just a few, 339 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 5: more but it to your bill. 340 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: Applies, yeah, yeah. 341 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 5: ANYTHING i think under twenty the best quarterback Is Kyler murray, 342 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 5: maybe AND i mean he's had mediocre success at, best 343 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 5: so it's there's just no substitute for. Experience But tie's 344 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 5: a little different because he grew his dad is a 345 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 5: twenty year head coach at THE fcs. Level he got 346 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: that quarterback education since he was, five growing up on 347 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 5: a college, campus you, know and there's a lot of 348 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 5: things on tape to like his his processing and the 349 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 5: way he can navigate the. Pocket it's a lot of 350 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 5: quarter you, know it's not just he's a big athlete 351 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 5: who can throw the. Ball, far he does a lot 352 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 5: of quarterback specific things that will translate to THE. Nfl 353 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 5: there's just a lot he hasn't, seen you, know in 354 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 5: terms of, coverages in terms of situational things where you're 355 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 5: gonna take your, lumps and it's just a matter of 356 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 5: do you believe he has the mental toughness to take 357 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 5: those mental lumps and come back and be better because of. 358 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 5: It and if you think he has that in, him 359 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 5: the intangible factor where the competitive toughness is ingrained in, 360 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: him then, Yeah i'd be fine rolling the dice at that. 361 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 5: Point it's just there is definite. 362 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: Year Behind Aaron rodgers something. 363 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 5: Like that's not the worst worst spot to be for. 364 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: Him, yeah last THING i got for, You, dan thanks so. 365 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: MUCH i, MEAN i don't think The steelers will go 366 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: corner in round, one but one of those Four day two, 367 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: PICKS i could definitely see a. Corner you. Know is 368 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: that a pretty rich area to go? SHOPPING i think. 369 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 5: SO i do think there's a drop off after the third, 370 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 5: round like once you get The day THREE i think 371 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 5: it drops off pretty hard At day. Two or IF 372 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: i IF i wanted to come away from this draft 373 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 5: of the, Corner i'm doing it somewhere in the first three. Rounds, 374 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 5: Okay and you Know Chris johnson From San Diego, state 375 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 5: it's one of my favorite corners in this. Draft you, 376 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 5: know he's he's a young, player but really. Instinctive the 377 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 5: coverage ability is. Outstanding he's tough first to. RUN i 378 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 5: think D'Angelo pond's you, know he's another. 379 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: One he's an Interesting he's. 380 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 5: Gonna have the discount sticker because of the. Size some 381 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 5: team's immediately gonna write him off under thirty inch, arms 382 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 5: under five to. Nine but man could really blow up this, 383 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 5: week right he there's a good chance he well for 384 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 5: threes forty inches. Avert you, know he's probably in the 385 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 5: conversation at twenty one if you want, him, okay just 386 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 5: because the trace and it's corners a stopwash. Position so 387 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 5: if you show you have that, athleticism, yeah they're a 388 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 5: good chance you're gonna. Go but corner is definitely a 389 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 5: pretty decent group when you're talking about those top one 390 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 5: hundred picks before we let you. 391 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 4: Go weird year for offensive tackles because because you've got 392 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 4: the two big, names but then a lot of The. 393 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: Proctor and The freelings and the low. 394 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: Moves is there any one of that kind of second, 395 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: wave those mid to back first round guys that you, 396 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 4: like that you think is worth because we rarely see 397 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: tackles drafted in that range, right and it feels like 398 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 4: there could be three or four this. 399 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: Year it seems Like freeling in The Arizona, state dude 400 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 2: whose NAME i, disribered having a chance to really step up, athletically. 401 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 5: There's no question about. It And freeling's a. Guy it's. 402 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 5: Fine my first MONK i did this year was That 403 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 5: thanksgiving And i've Put freely in there BECAUSE i really 404 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 5: like the traits and the PUSHBACK i, got, like oh 405 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 5: we talking about we haven't seen this name? Before just 406 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 5: wait because teams are buzzing about him and the. 407 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: Last month this season was a lot different than the 408 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: first tear on the. 409 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 5: Season, well and he's a young. Player he's getting better 410 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 5: and better stacking those good. Games if he went back To, 411 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 5: georgia we're probably talking about him as a top ten 412 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 5: pick next year in a twenty twenty seven. Draft so 413 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 5: if that's the, case could he go top ten this? 414 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 5: YEAR i wouldn't rule it. Out it's He he's has 415 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 5: a true left tackle skill, set Where Maliinoa fino their right, 416 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 5: tackles Even maliinoa for some teams as a. Guard so 417 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 5: if you really look for that left tackle skill, set 418 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 5: then that's what he gives. YOU i, think like you, 419 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 5: know like A Colton miller when he's coming out OF, 420 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 5: ucla like he was like fifteen, overall like there's no 421 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 5: questions about, him but good, player and so he's Not 422 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 5: joe a, prospect, right but there's still a lot to 423 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 5: like in a path where you can see him becoming 424 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 5: AN nfl, Starter and SO i see it similar with 425 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 5: With freeling And procter's a little more, complicated but man 426 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 5: that the traits and tools are. Outstanding it's a huge, yeah, 427 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 5: LITERALLY i mean it's no matter what listed at three, 428 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 5: sixty we'll see what he comes in. At just a huge. 429 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 5: Human but he's not overweight like he's he does look, sloppy, 430 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 5: no not at, all and so he's he's. Fascinating it'll 431 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 5: be it'll be. Interesting BUT i think your overall point 432 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 5: is is right that it's there's a lot of tackles 433 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 5: in that first round who could go at any, point. 434 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: And like playoff teams might actually get tackles this, year. 435 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: Which is rare, well and you know all thirty two 436 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 5: teams need, him right, yeah, yeah depth or, starters and 437 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,479 Speaker 5: so we're gonna see those guys go pretty. Quickly i'm 438 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 5: talking to The browns guys six or twenty, four they 439 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 5: need to. Tackle you're gonna be sitting on the edge 440 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 5: of your seat hoping he falls to twenty. FOUR a 441 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 5: tackle is gonna fall to twenty four if you don't 442 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 5: take one on. Six so it may need five offensive, well, 443 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 5: yeah how many draft picks they have because they need 444 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 5: a lot of. 445 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: Help the Great Dane Dane, brugler the, Athletic thank you 446 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 4: so much for taking the time in the middle of 447 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 4: a big busy week, here and we'll be looking forward 448 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: to the beast here before too much. 449 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 3: Longer can't. 450 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 5: Wait thanks, guys thank. 451 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 4: You make sure you're checking out all his. Work thanks 452 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: for the. Time we're gonna get to our first break. 453 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: Here matt AND i will continue On Radio row live 454 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 4: In indianapolis at The. Combine it's The Drive Steelers Nation 455 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 4: radio on The Steelers Audio. 456 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: Network