WEBVTT - Patriots Unfiltered 8/6: Latest from Patriots Training Camp, Position Battles, Burning Questions 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:04.160 Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:05.720 suitable for all audiences. 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:07.920 Listener discretion is advised. 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:18.280 The World's a vigal podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered, presented 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.680 by Toyota dot Com. 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:23.920 I feel like this has been about as even as 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.960 it's been, with both sides enjoying positive days then that 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:28.960 I can remember the. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:30.000 Twenty fourth pretty even. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:30.560 They're both that. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:32.320 It's like they're making each other better. 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:34.360 It's like when good players are both really good and 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:35.400 they go against each other. 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:36.680 Yeah, they make each other better. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:37.120 What is that? 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:38.640 What is that called that? 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:39.000 Iron? 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:39.519 Chakras? 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:39.800 Iron? 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:41.120 That sums it up? 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:42.159 Thought of that? 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:43.920 You should have just let it that? 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.760 I actually, but brocos one interest me, Like, what is 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:48.200 that game? 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:48.559 Is that? 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:49.760 Are you excited about that? 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:51.360 I'm very excited. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:56.040 I don't love the idea of building an offense for 0:00:56.240 --> 0:01:00.200 Drake May, specifically out of little option routes from the slow. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:04.080 Just got first downs Brandon's and Syracuse. 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:04.880 What's up, Brandon? 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:05.800 Not too much? 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.800 Okay, I'm sorry we caught you at a bad time. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.440 If you're Elliott Wolf and you're shopping booty, what's your pitch? 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.200 Check out this Booty right, here's Patriot's Unfiltered. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:19.600 Presented by Toyota dot Com. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.760 All Right, welcome the Patriot's Unfiltered. It is Thursday here 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.920 at j Lett Stadium and we just came off the 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.360 practice field. A hot day here at ja Lett Stadium. Uh, 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.880 that's getting ready for the second BTS concert. How was 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:36.520 last nighte Ford? Did they play all the hits? 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:36.640 Oh? 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.240 It was great. Yeah. I had the play sheet. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:40.160 I saw you dressed up. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.120 I was really young. I had my little white skirt 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:42.600 on and. 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:44.240 Really bulld choice. 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.800 Okay, what's your favorite BTS song? I have no idea. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.640 I've never heard them before. I don't know from them. 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.560 You know, I got some bops, I got some bangers. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:54.240 What's the one? 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.760 Dynamite my favorite one? But Butter is really good too. 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:58.440 Yeah, but. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:01.560 What's tiny Skurts? 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:05.280 But over there it's the community, all right. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.840 We're not here to talk pop. We're here to talk 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.160 about pop pop. 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.919 Douglas, I'm talking about number three. There you go. No, 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.359 he's been having a good little pickle catches today. Yeah, 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:17.720 a little found a little room today. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:18.000 Camp. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.160 I saw my guy Gay backus again on a one 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:25.280 on one with showing speed around the outside there it's aggressive. Yeah, 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.760 I like them. What are your guys initial thoughts. It's Evan, 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.399 it's Paul, it's Mike, it's me, it's Alex in the booth. 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:32.040 I'll jump in. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.600 Well, we talked about it walking off the field, and 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.760 you might have heard it in the open of that. 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.880 We all feel that this is a competitive training camp 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.320 and it's kind of back and forth, and in recent 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:43.760 years it felt like we come off the field and 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.079 be like, that was offense, all offense today, or you know, 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:47.680 oh man, the defense shut it down today. 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.120 Now, the defense did have a good day to day. 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:50.280 They finished with three straight. 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.480 Interceptions, which was, you know, maybe the only time this 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:54.239 summer I felt like we came out and been like 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.840 that was like a put your fist down kind of 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.040 ending to the practice. But I think it's a good 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.840 sign that they're competitive the offense. They make some plays 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:03.799 there are in a lot of days where it was like, man, they. 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.200 Just didn't have it going. Now, Paul will tell you 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:07.280 Drake throw a pretty bad pick. 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.680 We could debate about why today, but otherwise it's it's 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.280 been a good back and forth, competitive camp, and I 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:14.800 think it's a sign of a good team with talent 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:15.680 on both sides of the ball. 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.800 I think it's been a boring camp because I honestly, 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.519 I don't think that much has happened because there's not 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.400 much drama. You know, there's not a lot of starting 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.880 jobs up for grabs. Gonzalez is practicing, so that whole 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.760 thing is kind of, you know, poured water on that 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.680 fire potentially. But I would say the last couple of days, 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.000 you know, not the walk through, but the last couple 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.120 of practices and pads, it's starting to drag a little bit, 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.760 and I think that guys are starting to get banged up. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.440 It's hot. They've been playing against the same people in 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:51.280 the same Patriot on Patriot practices now for what six 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.400 days in pads and day eleven of camp overall today, 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.760 So I think everybody's really looking forward to the colts 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.040 coming here next week and having somebody else to go 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.720 up against anybody else, honestly. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.560 So they'll have a practice tomorrow, but the weekend is 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.800 going to be a little light for them, so they'll 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:11.480 get a little chance to recover. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:12.560 They'll get a rest over the weekend. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.520 But I agree with Evan and you know, all of 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.440 the cliches that you throw out during the summer were 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.320 very I think evident today. You know, you get into 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.839 this period where you're a little bit, you know, starting 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.520 to drag. It was really humid today, I thought on 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.200 the field, I thought you could see visible signs of 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:34.360 guys dragging at times. Charles Woods left early after sort 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:38.480 of getting in a collision. Christian Barmore was really upset 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.040 for for something I'm not exactly sure. He fired his 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.719 helmet to the ground and went out down the back hill. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:51.680 You know, he was angry. I'm not saying he was injured. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.160 But you're angry because you got hurt. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:53.640 It could be. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:55.159 It could be also could. 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:56.920 Be angry because somebody got under his skin. 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:57.479 You could. 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.800 You could just see like it start to wear on 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.560 people today. And I do agree with Mike. I thought 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.880 the defense, maybe for the first time, sort of had 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:08.960 the better of that at the end of the practice. 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:10.880 Now, I think they've been back and forth a lot. 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.400 Today I thought was clearly a win for the defense, 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.560 and they put an exclamation point at the end. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:16.400 With three straight picks. 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.279 I agree with the the bad throw, the quote unquote 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.080 bad throw that I said by Drake, I think may 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.800 very well have been a situational because he had just 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.840 thrown a pick and now they just put one more 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.120 play from about the twenty five or thirty yard line. 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:30.520 I think he had to throw one in the end. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.719 Zone, yeah, but he didn't throw it anywhere near Hunter 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:36.360 Henry and Kevin Byard ended up virus dropping backlick in 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:37.000 his hands. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:38.880 Like this is what I want to say. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.560 Like the sort of the intensity that was still there 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.800 even though they were dragging, I thought was a positive sign. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.400 And like they were whooping it up. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.760 Yeah, Like Bayer took a towel and he's like slamming 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.560 it against the goalpost at the end, and you know 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.400 that's the g rated version of whatever he was doing 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.280 back there. They were getting louder and louder as the 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.760 day went on. In between some of those periods, there 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.120 was like a little red zone like individual drill like 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.920 one on one, two on two combination routes, and the 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.720 defense I thought, got the far better of that drill. 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:11.960 And they were really loud. That was right in front 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:13.760 of us on the hill, so you could hear the 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.400 defense reacting to play after play after play, and you're 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.320 right to Mario Douglas is the only one that really 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.520 was looked really strong in that drill offensively well. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.680 The first play brown Aj caught one, but then the 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.960 second time Gonzo got the better of him and tipped 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:30.240 it a well. 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.440 The first play, he caught it on Byered in the 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.880 back of the end zone with one hand and he 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.200 wasn't in bounds, but it was an unbelievable catch. 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.080 I mean, did you see that catch? Could you guys 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:40.720 look at that? 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.440 It was a little bit of a babble, I thought, right, yeah, 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.040 and so I think maybe I don't know if he 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.039 got both feet and bounds with possession, but that. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.080 Was one of those combination routes and ended up on 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.559 Byered coming across. Then there was one in the corner 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.400 that Gonzo just sort of jumped and knocked away. He 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:58.400 was like, and that was a tough throw by Drake too. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:06:59.680 I thought he could have put it out to the 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.960 pilot on and he kind of put it back on 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.599 the outside shoulder and Gonzales knocked away. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.640 But a lot of fun watching those two guys. I mean, 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.240 we'll talk about That's what I'm going to say. I mean, 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.040 not just I know we've talked about every show, but 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.520 it's hard to miss these two guys going against each 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:16.920 other best I mean best on best, good, good, not good. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:18.520 Gonzalez talked about it afterwards. 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.400 You can just feel the competition and Gonzales, who isn't 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.040 really a talker, I mean, he seems like he's relishing 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.400 this matchup. He's enjoying each time. I mean, I thought 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.600 he carried the majority of the day in eleven on 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.360 eleven periods. But also that was interesting tying it back 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.040 to what del Petti said a couple days ago when 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.920 he said, you know, Bayard pulled the secondary together a 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:37.200 few days ago and said, you know, we got to 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.400 make more turnovers, we have to produce more. And you 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.160 know they did that day, and then today they came 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.120 out and finished that way and buyed leading the way. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.640 So you know, just a little early sign of kind 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:46.400 of that leadership. 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:50.360 All good stuff, all good stuff. Brandon of North Carolina 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.040 agrees with you. He says, one thing that stands out 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.640 for me in this camp is the reporting on Gonzo 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:57.760 trash talking. Is this something that he has done in 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.040 past camps or is this new? 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.360 I I think he's got a little bit more in 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:04.280 him than people think. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:05.400 But he's so quiet. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.400 He's so quiet that you don't hear it. Yeah, but 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.240 I don't know. I I would not call the last 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.720 couple of days super competitive. I don't I think that this. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.000 I think they're starting to drag a little bit. I do, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.160 and I think that they we had to practice inside. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.400 I thought that was a really good practice and we 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.040 were right on top of it, so you could really 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:31.000 feel the speed and the intensity. Talking to a lot 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.000 of the players after practice, it kind of feels like, 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.079 how many more moves can I throw at this guy? Like, 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.800 you know, we've we've been going at it for two 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.960 straight weeks. He knows my moves, like I don't really 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.080 know what else to do. You know, the defense knows 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.560 the plays that the offense is running because they keep 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.880 seeing it over and over again. And I think everybody, 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.160 like I said earlier, all the players keep just saying 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:58.560 Colts next week, joint practice next week, preseason game next week. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:00.880 And I think that that's sort of at the point 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:04.559 that we're at with Camp. Is is like the Patriots 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.439 on Patriots stuff. Thing I think has kind of run 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:07.360 its course for everybody. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.760 That's why when I said I feel like all those 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.480 Camp cliches they were evident today, Like they're kind of 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.320 tired of you know, it's the dog days of camp. 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.040 We want to hit somebody with a different shirt on, 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.280 you know, like all those things and you see them 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.160 like they're talking about at the end of practice. 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:25.880 It's it's been a drag, been a little bit of 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:26.240 a drag. 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:31.000 Okay, it's kind of But Gonzales did say that he 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.360 likes to talk trash to two receivers, and he says 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.440 it depends on the receiver. Some guys hate it when 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.280 you don't talk to them, and that gets under their skin. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.800 Some guys, you know, you you know, maybe Brown is 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.679 one of those guys that he knows you want to 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:47.719 he wants to talk to. But he says it's good 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.079 for both of them. Number one corner going against the 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.120 number one receiver, and you sort of learn what it 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.240 takes to to sort of go against that level of competition. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.199 And sometimes I feel like you overplay that, like going 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:59.679 into camp and you're like, oh, and you know, to 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:00.480 see Brown. 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:01.520 I don't know. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.480 Sometimes it doesn't really ever seem to work out that way, 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:04.920 but like this is a camp where it really does 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:06.600 seem to work out, Like those two guys are going 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:07.960 against each other, constantly. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.080 I think when you have a coach like Rabel, he's 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:15.080 gonna make sure that happens, Like why not, Why shouldn't 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:16.360 the good go on the good right? 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:16.520 You know? 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:17.319 Why avoid that? 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:17.960 During camp? 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:19.760 You get that I think where it gets overrated a 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:21.800 little bit. They'll say, like practice against them all year, 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.480 like he probably won't run that many roads against Gonzo 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.120 during the course the balance of the season, like he'll 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.439 be going against scout looks and Brown will be going 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:30.040 against scout. 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.599 They usually do second Wednesdays. They do a good on 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.200 good period on Wednesdays in the middle of the week, 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.679 just so that the speed you feel the speed of 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:40.080 what it's going to be like in the game. 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:41.360 But they. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.760 It's I can't think of an example. It's super unique 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:50.079 that Brown's an X receiver that plays on the outside 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.160 and Gonzales is a boundary corner who plays on the outside. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.840 So just by their positions alone, they're gonna be covering 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.280 each other or you know, running routes on one another. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.080 When you play someplace else on the field, it might 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.640 not be every rep. This is literally every rep that 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.040 these two guys are on the field together. They're going 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.800 up against one one another, like if you play on 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.319 the defensive line, like you might be, you know, over 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.360 the left guard one play, and then you're over the center, 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.439 and then you're over the right guard, and right you're 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.319 moving around. Whereas this one is Brown trots out to 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.520 the one, you know, the short side of the field, 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.079 Gonzo tries trots out to the boundary, and it's just 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.839 one on one. So it's a pretty unique matchup for 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.520 that reason that I really can't think of another example 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:34.440 of the two who. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:38.000 Will see more competition of that caliber in the season. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:42.760 Gonzo with receivers or a j. Brown with cornerbacks. 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:43.400 Good question. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.960 I mean, I think it's a pretty good match up 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:47.360 for both of them to start right out of the game. 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.160 I think the better receiver. I don't think there's a 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:53.400 lot of cornerbacks at that level. Well Gonzo and I 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.560 mean I know zones. Just I'm trying to think of. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.880 Their schedule, like and that's one you know Seattle, Yeah, 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:01.240 you know Pittsburgh. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.720 I mean Joey Porter Junior is a good year, He's Pittsburgh. 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.600 Brown will see a better player than Gonzo will Well 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.400 it's okay, yeah, yeah, I don't know. 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.720 I mean I think it's back and forth, chackuars. They'll 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:17.040 see but they'll Bill see Travis Hunter. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.880 Maybe you know who's bulked up? Yeah, I saw that, 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:22.959 which you know what I appreciated about that. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:24.319 You know how we always see his like is he 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.199 put on way someone put that post of that and 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.079 they actually had one from last year and one from 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:29.400 this year. 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:31.200 You can see a difference. 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.800 Unless I've heard that a couple times about Drake and 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:35.280 I don't really I don't see it. 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.679 I see it a little bit in the legs, A 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:38.640 little bit in the legs. 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:39.240 Yep. 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.319 All right, eight five five past five hundred is the 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.760 Hotline podcast at Patriots dot Com. Is the email address. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.400 I just want to remind everyone. Next week is joint 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:53.160 practice with the Colts. Uh So we'll be live during 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.720 practice on Tuesday, right yep. And then we've got our 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.760 first preseason game on Thursday. That's unbelieve goodness career. 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:01.240 We are. 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:06.640 The first pregame show the goodness a week from a 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.920 week from tonight. O give me tape to watch other 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.719 teams to go up again. So along those lines, SO 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.840 and Paul will definitely make this is will be good 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:16.959 for you. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:17.200 Paul. 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.280 It's gonna be a good segment. What do you fascinated 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.560 about I'm fascinating. I'm a little bit more excited, uh, 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.079 which granted you've broken me of some of my preseason excitement, 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:32.000 but doing the backup quarterbacks have been playing pretty well, 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:33.520 you know. I mean, there were a couple of throws today. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.880 I'm sure they'd like that back. But Baron Morton, whose 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.280 parents were here that was a nice story today, continues 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.360 to get reps and all these practices. I just think 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.120 in that within the structure of the preseason game watching 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:44.920 to Vito and Morton, I think there's gon be a 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:46.920 little bit more interest to me to see how they 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.760 transfer what they've done on the practice field out onto 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.640 the onto the game field. You know, last year, you 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:53.720 know what you had in Dobbs. He's a veteran, he's 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.000 been out there. But I just think it adds a 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.360 little bit more interest to me what you find, like 0:13:58.679 --> 0:13:59.640 the quarterbacks are better. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.640 I think that do you find that, Like, obviously Drake's 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.000 here and everybody else is below, But in terms of 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.520 the style of the quarterback, there's a thread that goes 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.920 through them, like there none of them are like so 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.400 different that when they're in you have to do things differently. 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.800 I would say Baron Morton is more of the traditional 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.840 Josh McDaniels pocket passer. Like I think he's pretty accurate, 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:27.400 gets the ball out quickly underneath to the first two levels. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.360 When he tries to push the ball down the field, 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:30.880 I think it hangs on him a little bit. But 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.360 I would say he's more that traditional McDaniels. The Vito 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.480 moves around a little bit. None of them are athletic 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.000 but Drake, but yeah, maybe a little bit. But I 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:43.160 think the Vito's had a pretty strong weak Yeah I 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.560 don't want maybe off platform, Yeah yeah, maybe not as 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:50.600 much today, but yesterday in the bubble practice, I thought 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.320 that he threw the ball really really well. You had 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.280 to throw a booty today that was right through two 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.240 zone defenders, threw it right in there. So I mean, 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.920 compared to Dobbs and Ben woo Age last summer, this 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.080 is definitely an improvement in terms of their data. 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:04.400 I agree with that overall. 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.640 I think those two guys are better than the guys 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:10.880 that they replaced, and I'm just more encouraged by that. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.880 Like I don't need to see like, like I always 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.240 tell you, I don't necessarily see because it's a game like, 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:18.880 it doesn't mean more to me in a game. 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.280 I think it's harder in practice. Yeah, I really do. 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.520 I think it's I think it's more of a test 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.320 in practice. I will look at the the joint practice 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.840 and I'd be curious to see how many reps if 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.360 any Morton gets in that scenario where it's a little 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.960 bit more valuable. But yeah, I think those both of 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:40.040 those guys I think have put a nice They've accounted 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:40.920 for themselves. 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:41.120 Well. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:42.280 I think they both played well. 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:44.440 Yeah, I mean Ifido played well against the Patriots last 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.720 year the preseason. But this is the first chance we're 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.840 getting to really see him practice, you know. I mean 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.480 you see him during the year he was here, but 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.160 I mean I barely ever see him do anything. But 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.880 I just I'm impressed with the velocity he generates on 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.760 his throat. He just seems to back's arm now he does. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.920 Sure, he sure does drive throws. I would deep balls, 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.960 I think both those guys, Yeah, that's a good way. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.280 Kyle Williams. If we can get Kyle Williams a catchable 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.840 deep ball, that would be great. Guys, that booty, the. 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.480 Booty, why do you think Drake didn't throw that deep 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:17.200 ball to him today. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.160 I don't know that he had. He I thought he had. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:21.800 I thought he had two guys open on that play 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.320 down the field, and we being and Taylor looked at 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.480 each other and we're like, why what did he just do? Uh? 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:31.600 Yeah? 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.800 I thought he had on the sideline on like a 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:37.720 deep out that I thought was open. And then he 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.200 also had you know, the safety jump Chisholm, and he 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.800 had Williams one on one down the field if he 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.040 wanted to give him a chance to and didn't throw it. 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.560 So I'm not saying that Kyle Williams is like, you know, 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.520 secretly Randy Moss or something like that, but he hasn't 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.080 really had a lot of help from the quarterbacks. I mean, 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.160 he's been under thrown a couple of times, you know, 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.400 balls that he's got to go high point, which really 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.520 isn't his game. So hopefully we get Kyle Williams some 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.360 accurate deep balls and see what he can do. 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.399 But you know, from what I see, the base looks 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:14.560 like it's a J Brown pop Douglas, uh In Hollands. 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:15.560 Well, Romeo Dobbs. 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:18.000 He wasn't out there today. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.119 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's probably fair, and we'll 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.520 figure out what they had they do with Booty, you know. 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:31.439 Speaking of Booty. Okay, one sixteen, speaking of Booty. No, okay, 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.119 So if you think that he's going to be traded, 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.800 do you call up Tampa Bay and say, hey, listen, 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.680 we'll give you him, maybe a couple of draft picks 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.159 for Vita Vea, because right now the reports out of 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.960 Tampa there's nothing but a trade is going to happen. 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:47.680 Like it's what are the draft picks? 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.960 Maybe uh second and a third and Booty for Vea. Yeah, 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:53.679 that's a lot. 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:55.679 I wouldn't do it. You might have to do that. 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.840 If it wasn't he at all pro one years old. 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.520 Christian Barble for Vita Vea, noting like that. 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:04.560 I don't like that at all. 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.280 I don't need I do that in a blank. 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.240 I'll take Vitavea all day, every day. But I don't 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.680 I don't think the market is what is that high 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:13.040 for him? 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:13.639 You don't think so? 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:14.440 No, he's older. 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.119 I think if they're getting second and third round picture in. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.720 The contract for a contract, what you know, maybe a 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.080 second or third this year and a second next year. 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.680 I think I think it's a lot, and there's a lot. 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.240 But I mean you might have to do that. 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.600 I mean the Red Sox taught us, well, well, it's 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.719 a thirty one year old player that wants a new 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:35.160 contract like like that. There's not usually a huge market 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:35.879 for guys like that. 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.320 Yeah, that's the thing. I don't think they're gonna like. 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:41.440 Which feels like, you know, I mean, I think he's 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.560 a great player, and it's just you know, you can 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:45.399 look at every great player in the NFL and be like, well, 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:46.760 I'd love to have him, but like, I think you 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.080 have to be realistic about what they have invested in 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.560 the defensive line where their holes are, you know, and 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:54.119 giving up a bunch of stuff to get him. Like 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.000 would he make the team better, yes, But I just 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:57.080 think if. 0:18:56.640 --> 0:19:00.760 You're bringing Vita Vea, Zach Kerr has to like add 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.879 some pages to the defensive playbook because he's you know, 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.199 he's a nose tackle that you don't have right now, 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.800 and now I can do things that maybe I couldn't 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.840 do before. But when he's on the field, I'm limiting. 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.879 The question is is how do you expand the Tonga 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.200 role into a Veya role? Right? Yeah, because Tonga playing 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.280 thirty three percent of the snaps last year. You're not 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:27.280 going to trade for Vidavea and have him played thirty 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.800 three percent of the snaps, right, So how do you 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.760 go about? And Vea can play everywhere like he's a 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.600 nose traditionally, but he can play a lot like willfour 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:37.480 could Like he can play all over the line, So 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.320 it's not just that he's playing on the nose, but theoretically, 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.320 like your three man line is Williams bea barmore, which 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.000 is terrific, But how much can you have those three 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.760 on the field together? So that means that somebody making 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.600 thirty million dollars is standing on the sideline on third down, 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.879 which is I guess fine if you're willing to do that. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.520 But to Mike's point, it's like a lot of resources 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:01.359 sunk into one position group. That makes it a little 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:01.960 bit crowded. 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.880 But well, if those three can make third down, third 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:06.560 and long every time, it might be worth it. 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.960 He's a hell of a player. I just given the situation, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.080 if he really wants out of Tampa and he wants 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.320 a new contract, I just you know, I think we 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:18.960 see how this goes where the asking price is usually 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.840 not as high as you think in those types of situations. 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:23.080 Yeah, because of the contract. 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:23.840 I didn't think of that. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.320 Yeah in his age it's thirty one. 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:27.160 Yeah, that's true. 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:31.960 The other thing I want to talk about GM type 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:35.119 of under the GM umbrella is all these deals that 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:39.240 are going down in the league and which then you 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.520 think about our situation, and you've got Gonzo waiting for 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.280 his but also with a Spoon waiting for his. Both 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.240 those guys are with the same agent, are still waiting. 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.359 So what does that tell you, if anything? But what 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:52.960 does that indicate to you? If anything? 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:56.280 Cornerback market is not moving, and I think a lot 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.719 of these cornerbacks are not getting paid going into their 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.159 third year in the NFL, to which I think is 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.360 something that for gon Zone Witherspoon is probably the tough 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.360 part of that negotiation. You know, the the Chiefs kind 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:10.960 of did everybody dirty by trading McDuffie and not paying him. 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.359 So they carried McDuffie on the roster till his fourth 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.560 year and then just traded him to the Rams, and 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.920 the Rams paid McDuffie. So the Chiefs made McDuffie play 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.280 the fourth year. And I think that that's where the 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.120 cornerback market is headed now. For a lot of these 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:30.840 guys are getting forced to wait until their fourth season 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:35.760 to cash in, and Gonzales and Witherspoon are not going 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:38.040 into their fourth season, they're going into their third season. 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.200 So is that time in the four season excuse me, 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:42.480 fifth season? Yeah, I. 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:47.439 Know what you were talking about. I wanted to make 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:48.600 sure we did confuse. 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:51.600 And so that I think is, you know, a big 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.520 part of what's happening here, and maybe to an extent 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:59.679 that the cornerback market is devalued to an extent by teams. 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:01.960 I think that there's a lot of teams that feel 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:04.439 like we can get pressure, and we can figure out 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:06.960 ways to get pressure in exotic ways to get pressure, 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.240 and maybe we don't need to pay the cornerback thirty 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.280 five million dollars a year, which is I think what 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:15.280 the chiefs told you. With McDuffie, we have Spagnolo. He's 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.160 going to draw blitzes and he's going to make life 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.440 easier on the corners. So I think that that's the 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:22.320 biggest takeaway to me, is that the running back market moved. 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:25.400 The wide receiver market obviously is going to continue to move, 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:28.600 but the market. That's not moving is corner. You know, 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.320 that's the one that everybody's waiting, and so if you're Gonzales, 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:32.720 it's you're waiting. 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.000 It's just a good sign that he's continue to be 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:35.360 out there. 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:37.760 But you know, we'll see. I hope this doesn't go 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:39.399 into the season, you know, I think that might be 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:41.119 not idem. 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:44.000 It tells me that Witherspoon and Gonzales are not interested 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.360 in becoming just the highest paid corners. 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:49.080 They're looking to move that needle a little bit. 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:50.960 So you're thinking the agent's playing hardball. 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:54.560 Yep, Well, the players are playing hardball. Players are not 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.400 interested in making thirty one point five million a year. 0:22:57.880 --> 0:22:58.040 Or a. 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:01.679 Or an esque later contract, which is what a lot 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:04.720 of these younger corners get. Where they're going to give 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:08.120 you like a raise for your fourth season and then 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:11.439 then the contract really doesn't kick in until your fifth season. 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:13.680 So you're making more than what you would make as 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:15.840 a rookie on a rookie contract in your fourth year, 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:18.200 but you're not getting the bag. You don't get the 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:20.840 bag until year five. And that's how a lot of 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.520 these other like a Sauce Gardner, that's how their contracts 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.119 have been structured, and so I think a lot of 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:29.840 these guys, Witherspoon, Gonzales, they might want They're saying, no, 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:30.960 we want the bag today. 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:32.800 I want to sit in those contracts. 0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.080 They're interested in their own And I think there was 0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:37.720 a clip on Hard Knocks that some of the guys 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:39.600 were talking about today. I didn't see it, so I 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.480 might be missing this a little bit, but I guess 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:46.119 Witherspoon had conversation and was talking about how, you know, 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:52.120 beyond quarterback, corner is the most valuable position, and that's 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:54.760 how he looks at it. I'm sure Gonzalez looks at 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:58.000 it the same way. You know, Gonzalez talked about do 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:01.120 you agree with that? I think it's in a small group, 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:03.120 you know, if you want to put edge rusher over 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.679 that or wide receiver over that. I mean, I can 0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.399 listen to your argument. I don't know, but that's it 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:09.200 for me, you know. 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:10.800 I know like people. 0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:14.400 I heard it locally on a radio show here about 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:16.800 two weeks ago, someone said that they don't value the 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.800 cornerback position at all. They think it's like way down 0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:22.840 the list, and I was like, I couldn't possibly disagree more. 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:26.320 I by they like the Patriots. Was no this guy 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.399 on the radio, this one one of the guys. It 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.160 wasn't a caller. It was no, it wasn't a caller 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:37.199 sewing on it who tends to have the opposite opinion 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:41.119 of absolutely everybody all the time, Mark Dundaro. It was like, 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.879 I was like thinking I was in bizarro land. But 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.880 I think it's an extremely valuable position. I think it's 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:50.600 an extremely hard one to get right, as Bill Belichick 0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:55.040 showed you in his constant search after he let Sante 0:24:55.080 --> 0:25:01.200 Samuel walk until he stumbled on Revis like Taliban Revis like, 0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.160 just as mercenaries came in and sort of saved him. 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:08.320 After all of those years of second round corner stunk, 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:12.119 second round corner stunk, Terrence John will Will you know, 0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:18.399 Cyrus Jones, Hurling, Moore, Rossi Dolling were no naming second 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:19.040 round corners. 0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:21.920 I just think that couldn't play. Jonathan will Height was 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:22.800 a fourth round corner. 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:24.720 Some of that, though, with Bill was that they played 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:26.920 so much man and like, I think that one of 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:28.920 the things we're seeing across the league is that teams 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.280 are playing less and less man coverage. So if you're 0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:33.920 not going to be playing a ton of pure man coverage. 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:36.520 Then I can understand the argument of why are we 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.200 paying this guy thirty five million dollars to play the 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.960 flat and cover two like like, well, you know, we 0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:42.480 we're kind of. 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.880 But but again it's chicken array. Is the reason why 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.440 a lot of the league's playing more zone is because 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:50.919 they don't have that elite corner. 0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.439 It's possible. I'm just saying, like, I think that's how 0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:55.119 a lot of teams look at it. I think a 0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.119 lot of teams. You know, normally you look at the 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:02.920 premium positions outside a quarterback being people impacting the passing game, receivers, corners, 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.640 left tackles, pass rushers, right, But like, as of right now, 0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.760 the pass rushers are getting paid, the wide receivers are 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.960 getting paid, the premium left tackles are getting paid. The 0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:15.160 corners are the ones that are singing for their supper 0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:17.120 a little bit. And I think is interesting. 0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:20.320 Specific to Gonzales, and this is what launched this today 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.760 in his because he talked to the media after practice today. 0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.240 He was asked specifically about his draft class, which is 0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:29.439 first of all, a terrific first round. There's a lot 0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.439 of hits in that first round and those guys are 0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:37.400 all getting paid. Jamiir Gibbs is still waiting, and Gonzales 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:38.600 and Witherspoon is still waiting. 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.639 I believe Jamir Gibbs is getting signed right as we speak. 0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.200 Oh, is that him getting off the field today. Yeah, 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:47.000 supposedly he was out at the walkthrough and they. 0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.720 Paid Bijon, they paid Jonathan Taylor, and so his contract 0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.160 is going to be basically what Bijon got in Atlanta. 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.920 So three for seventy five something like that. So that 0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.560 that draft class, supposedly, I think there's I think the 0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:04.480 numbers is like ten, like eight eight Pro bowlers or 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:06.960 something like that in the first round, and six of 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.720 the eight have already gotten paid or something like like 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:13.480 ten of them, like eight of But I mean, you know, 0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:15.879 Robinson got it. You know, we just talked about the 0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.760 Darnelle right the tackle in Chicago I think was like 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:20.440 the tenth or eleventh pick of that draft. 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.320 He got it, just just received a big contract. 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:28.800 So Gonzales absolutely, everything he answered about the contract was 0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.240 I'm gonna let my camp, you know, my team handle that. 0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:32.960 I'm not going to talk about any of that. He 0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:37.520 was asked specifically about taking notice of his draft class. Yes, 0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.080 yes he has. So this is I agree with Mike. 0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.840 It's something to monitor and that you hope gets done 0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:47.160 before the season. You don't want this lingering into the season. 0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.359 But bizarre that the running backs are getting paid. But 0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:50.399 the corner I. 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.600 Kind of like, I mean, but you know, I don't 0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.400 like the running back general, you know, I do kind 0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.680 of like those kinds of contracts. Get them early, give 0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:01.040 him maybe more money, and you want to give them, 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.760 but it's short term. You know, it's only three years, 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:09.560 and you let him set the market, like that's the 0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:11.640 highest paid running back of all time. 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.520 B John Robinson. Now Evan's telling me that Gibbs is 0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:15.320 going to get the same thing. 0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:16.879 Taylor didn't break it. 0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:19.679 So you know, I don't know what Tailor's numbers are, 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:21.440 but I can't imagine you got more than twenty five 0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:24.320 a year at his age, it. 0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:25.000 Was pretty big. 0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:25.800 Yeah. 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.240 Do you think j Brown's presence has anything to do 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:33.240 with wagons is practicing? Like I just I imagine we 0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.600 were headed towards the potential hold in and he wasn't 0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:37.880 going to participate, And I think about all the things 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.200 that we and he would have missed out on had 0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:41.960 he not been in these practices going against and I 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:42.760 you know, I think it's. 0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.000 Been good for him the player. He stayed healthy. 0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.280 That was a concern obviously, but you know, to be 0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:48.920 able to go be out there and go against that guy, 0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:50.440 then it's it's a good bonus. 0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:50.920 Yeah. 0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.400 I don't know if that would you know, it's like, well, 0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:55.080 I'm going to hold out, but oh he's here. 0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:55.840 I won't. 0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:56.760 I don't think. 0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.680 I think he's practicing because there's a chance that he's 0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:01.800 going to have to play this year on the rookie contract. 0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:03.640 And if he's going to have to pay this year 0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.400 on the rookie contract, he's got to play well because 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.640 whether it's the Patriots or at somebody else, you won't 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.440 you're showcasing. You know that you're worth at thirty plus 0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.560 million dollars a year. You know, I think they all 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:15.719 all those corners, and I keep bringing up, but all 0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.120 those corners, just watch McDuffie just do this exact same 0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:21.840 thing he played the fourth year on the rookie contract. 0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:23.600 Yeah, but what about all the other ones that didn't 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.120 like Stingley and Startan and Sauce. 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.200 Yeah, but years ago, like no, no, not that years ago, 0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:31.160 two or three years ago now, but. 0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.200 When we're all in the same era of football here though, 0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.560 I understand, but so one guy broke the mold, like 0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:40.040 the Duffy had to wait till. 0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.400 The fourth YEARL like, you're practicing, because it doesn't make 0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:43.720 any sense for him to be practicing. 0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:47.120 I I think he's choosing attacked. I think he thinks 0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:48.880 this is the best way for him to get his contract. 0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.960 I think that I maybe, but I I think that 0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.720 there's that he feels like there's a chance that he 0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:55.560 might have his win this. 0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.320 Year in practicing. Yes, okay, so they're both practicing. 0:29:58.360 --> 0:29:58.560 Yeah. 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:02.360 Now the word is in Seattle they have a strict 0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.000 policy that we're not going to negotiate with a player 0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:09.560 who's not practiced, Harris, to which I would say, Okay, 0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:13.360 I'm not practicing. You don't want to negotiate with me. Okay, 0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.600 I'm whole, I'm I'm I got a hamstring. I can't practice. 0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.680 Like, I don't understand how that works, you know. 0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:24.000 And Gonzalez has been asked a couple of times about 0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.320 do the Patriots have a policy like that, and he 0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:27.200 hasn't really gone And. 0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:28.720 I think if you're a team and you say that 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:32.160 we don't negotiate with people who don't practice, meaning we 0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:35.520 do negotiate. If you do practice, you better get the 0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:39.120 job done. You better get the deal done because you 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.320 know the player is trusting you. Okay, I'm going to 0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:45.640 practice now, and you say you're going to negotiate. You know, 0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.200 if I hear from my agent that you're not being 0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.959 above board in your offers, then we've got a big problem. 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.440 So you know, you have you have to follow through 0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.400 if you're the team. You know, is there a chance 0:30:58.480 --> 0:30:59.280 that this changes though? 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.400 And all of a sudden and I like today I 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.760 heard somebody mention Gonzalez's name as they were coming out, 0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:06.000 and I was like, oh, is he not here today? 0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.600 Like I feel like I'm still bracing myself that he 0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.720 might not be out there, you know that that maybe 0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.920 negotiations have taken a turn and he's getting fed up, 0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.560 Like and can that possibly happen into the regular season? 0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.280 Like is there you know what I mean? Like, guys, 0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:22.280 don't all of a sudden you pull you pull your hamstring? 0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.360 Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean he's got to play a 0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.479 certain amount of games to a crew season and all. 0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.920 But that's like we're ways away from all that crap. 0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.000 But I just I just feel like we're I'm trying 0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:33.920 to figure out ways other than him saying the right 0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.160 things of like, I'm just trying to get better, and 0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.160 if I'm not practicing, I'm not getting better. Like from 0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.120 his side of it, you know, we're just talking about 0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:44.880 the running backs like Jamir Gibbs and Bjhon Robinson were 0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:48.520 holding out they were not practicing, right, But the two 0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:52.560 corners are practicing, and they have the same agent, and 0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.360 they're in this exame exact situation as too. 0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.120 It's it's interesting, yeah, And I do think that this 0:31:58.280 --> 0:31:59.960 is where the agent might have something to do with it. 0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.640 The agent might be encouraging them to practice. 0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.280 I don't think that's a coincidence that they're both doing 0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.360 the same thing, right, Yeah, that's a. 0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:07.880 Good point too. 0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.920 I just I guess my brain's wondering who's more valuable 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:14.800 to their team, you know, Witherspoon. I mean, they're different players, 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.040 you know, and that's and their different schemes, and you know, 0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:19.280 I just I wonder. 0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.600 How you suss that out as the agent, you know. Well, 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:25.560 I mean what Evan said earlier made me think, you know, 0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:29.640 teams that have plans to do a lot of blitzing, 0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:33.720 do a lot of early pressure. Does the value of 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:37.600 your cornerbacks go down because of that? It's just something 0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:39.840 to think about. I mean, I it's kind of their 0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:40.840 marxis chillnes right. 0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:45.840 Like noide early, downtown, slide him inside late in the third, Yeah, 0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:47.480 and then him and even more kind of play off 0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:48.000 of each other. 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.880 I just to me, it's it's it's hard to imagine 0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:55.320 that when you have an elite cornerback. It isn't a luxury, 0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.520 It isn't something where there's not a lot of them. 0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.120 But when you have one, Jesus makes everything so much 0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.960 easier on defense when you can just take away that 0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:05.040 their best player. 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.160 It's just the conversation with Drake and A. J. Brown, 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.760 You see like how they have to figure it out. 0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.000 It's like you said, it's a problem, you know, figuring 0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:12.360 out how. 0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:14.240 He's going to play, what he's good at. It just 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.680 to me, it just makes running a defense easier when 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.800 you know you've taken away their best producer. 0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:23.440 Maybe the offense is going to be so good it 0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:28.000 doesn't matter. Well, I think it it was only half Joe. 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.560 If they want to play it was pretty good last 0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:31.520 year and it should be better. 0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:33.920 Yeah, if they want to play defense the way they 0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:35.600 did in the playoffs last year, and I think the 0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:37.719 way that we've seen out at practice a little bit 0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.280 where they are going to be kind of scheming it 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.640 up in the pass rush to get guys in pressure 0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.840 to the quarterback. Then you really are putting a lot 0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:48.920 of stress on your corners because they're going to be 0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.600 on islands for a lot of those those times. So 0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.560 to not have a guy like Gonzalez who can travel 0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.280 with the JSN or a Courtland Sutton or you know whoever, 0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:03.120 that does make it harder to blitz the quarterback forty 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:04.160 five percent of the time. 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:04.760 You know. 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.200 I think that that when you are putting all your 0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.240 resources into the pass rush and in terms of numbers, 0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.200 and you're really only playing with maybe a safety over 0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:16.200 the top or maybe nobody over the top, then you 0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.160 really need to have a corner like that that can 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.520 go out there and cover. So, I don't know, I 0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:22.880 find the corner is really valuable to fred I. I 0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:26.600 just find it really interesting that everybody else is getting paid, 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.279 all the other positions are getting paid, and they're all 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:30.440 kind of going about it different. 0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:32.720 It's really only these two guys because the other corner, 0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.360 I know, he's older, he's on his third contract, but 0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:36.000 he got paid. 0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:39.920 Who who's done some war got a sweetener paid? Well, 0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:41.920 he got a sweetener. But that was that just a 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:45.520 little different a market correction. But like that, like say 0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:49.760 Flowers got paid, JSN got paid, Will Anderson got paid 0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.200 like all these other positions. You know, the two running 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:52.640 backs are not. 0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:56.279 Going to get paid a couple of like great draft picks. 0:34:56.400 --> 0:35:00.440 Yeah, I think didn't. Jack Campbell got paid to like 0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.600 so like just going right down the list, the two 0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.960 guys that are waiting are the corners with the same agent, 0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.320 with the same agent, so you can't so maybe the other. 0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.200 Guy they're an outlier and they're a little weird. 0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.440 You know, maybe that's just this kind of I'm not 0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.279 just dis missing Evans theory. I just you know, i'd 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:21.200 fire my agent if I let Trent McDuffie's contract completely 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:25.960 dictate the market just one guy, you know, yeah, like 0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.320 you know, the team's never let one outlier, Like not 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.280 everybody got two hundred and fifty million because Deshaun Watson 0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.560 signed a contract like that guaranteed right that you know 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.080 that that became an outlier contract. So it never goes 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.160 the outlier that goes the wrong way, never like permeates 0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.839 the league. But now we got an outliar that went 0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.399 the other way that they made him play the fourth 0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:47.960 year and then he had to wait and get traded 0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:49.160 and get his money somewhere else. 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.719 Is gonna prevent Gonzales and Witherspoon from him. 0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:55.759 I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying that that 0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.040 was the most recent example of a cornerback that was 0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.400 on a rookie contract, that was a really good player 0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:03.640 that was trying to get paid, and that's how it 0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.239 went for McDuffie. Now the Chiefs have a history of that, 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:11.120 so maybe that's just the steed. Yeah, it might just 0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.799 be a Kansas City thing. But we're here on August sixth. 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.759 Then with the Spoon, Gonzales still don't have contracts, all right? 0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:19.960 A five to five pass five hundred is the hotline 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:22.719 podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address. 0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.040 Sneaky, poorly run organization despite all the winning. 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.960 Oh when you got mahomes Hermes in d C, what's 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.640 up herm? It's got a plane? 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:38.879 I guess hey, I kind of a I'll guess maybe 0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.719 like an odd question today in the spirit of the 0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.640 Eagles come in to us for a joint practice in 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:45.520 about two weeks. 0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:52.000 Right, then, it seems to be a national love affair 0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:56.400 with Joe Burrow. And if you just oppose it to 0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:01.880 the conversations rounding Jail and Hurt, I just I just 0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:06.360 don't get it because it seems like Joe Burr is being. 0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.440 Put in this pedestal like he you know, you know, 0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:13.359 won every year since he joined the league. And then 0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:17.520 on the flip side, it almost like seems like the 0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:19.320 constations around Jeling hurt Jalen. 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:23.360 Hurts is that all he's been doing is losing. So 0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:27.560 I guess my question to you all is what is 0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:31.799 the love affair with with Joe Burrow on a national level? 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:36.400 And then duppo to the conversation with Jayleen Hurt. 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.240 Well, Jalen Hurts might be the Jalen Brown of the NFL. 0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.200 You know, he wins a lot and probably doesn't get 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:47.680 the respect he thinks he should get. Uh, And you know, 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.439 Joe Burrow might get more than you know, at least 0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:54.200 herm it sounds like you think he should get. I think, 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.880 you know, with Burrow, there's like he's a good marketing tool. 0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:01.080 I mean, like he wears the first coats and like 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:04.360 he's Joe cool and and he is a good quarterback 0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:05.040 when he's healthy. 0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.200 There's no doubt about that. What do you think is better? 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.080 What do you think is a better an NFL court? 0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:14.200 Joe Joe Burrow not not even close. But he hasn't 0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:15.760 won as much as Jalen Hurs. 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:16.720 Well, if you put. 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.280 That's the bottom line, he hasn't won as much as Jalen. 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.719 You can't make an argument that the Jalen Hurts Eagles 0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:28.440 are underachieved. Maybe they're kind of stacked, but but I 0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:29.960 think I think, I just think. 0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:34.359 That Burrow is a for marketing purposes and as as 0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.680 far as you know faces of the NFL, I think 0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:39.359 that he's easier to sell. 0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:45.520 I think that there's Daniel Jeremia always uses the analogy 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:49.320 of like there's bus drivers and there's passengers. Joe Burrow 0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:51.520 is a bus driver, Like you put that guy at 0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:55.120 the wheel and he is driving force of your team's success. Yeah, 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.160 Jalen Hurts I think is more of a passenger. Like 0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:01.879 I think Jalen Hurts has been on really now he's 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:04.719 played really well, and I think he's give quarter back. 0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:07.359 I don't think he's a different but I think he's 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:09.960 you know, when you have that offensive line in Saquon 0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:12.880 Barkley and A. J. Brown and DeVante Smith and Dallas 0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:13.560 Goddard in. 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.640 The defense in a very good defend roster. 0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:19.759 Yeah, it's still one of the best rosters. 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.680 In Joe Burrow was wasted in Cincinnati. It's one of 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:26.239 the you know, I always say, uh, Andrew Luck, It's 0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:27.880 a shame that he was on the Colts. 0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:29.839 Because he's your modern day Andrew Luck. 0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:30.600 He's wasted there. 0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.480 I also thought it was a remarkably gifted quarterback. 0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.000 He's been more successful than Andrew Luck. I would say, 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.640 like your Super Bowl got to one and got back 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.040 to champions but. 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.040 I think Luck probably has a much better postseason. 0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:45.000 Joe Burrow on the Giants. Can you imagine that, you know? 0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.040 Or why we want to put him on the Giant 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:50.600 New York, Oh, New York. 0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.920 Joe Burrow in l A on the Chargers. It is mean. 0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.080 Joe Burrow was like, that was a one possession game 0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:58.880 in that Super Bowl that they lost to the Rams. 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.040 You know, they had they had the ball and they 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:01.479 were driving. 0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.080 A lot of people will tell you if Aaron Donald 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:06.760 didn't hit him on that throw, he had Chase open 0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:07.760 down the sideline. 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:09.120 Yeah, the fourth. 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:10.719 Double plays away from winning a Super Bowl. 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.719 That's what makes him so interesting to me, is I 0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.440 mean until you got aj Brown, we spent similar time 0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:18.040 coveting wide receivers and I mean, god, how much time 0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:19.640 do we talk about trying to get t Higgins? 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.960 And he's had both those guys and you know, really 0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:23.480 is just injuries that people point to. 0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.600 But at a certain point, when do you kind of say, 0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:27.879 look like, I know your offensive line hasn't been great, 0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.320 but you've got two of I mean Jamar Chase probably 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.600 the best receiver in the league, T Higgins not too 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:34.560 far behind him that you know, you have those two 0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:36.040 weapons and an excellent quarterback. 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:36.880 Like, what's the problem. 0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:40.560 Yeah, it's football. You need a little bit more than that. 0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.080 And you know it said defense is the problem? Like 0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:46.120 the defense two years ago, through what forty five touchdown passes, 0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.399 the defense has given up thirty points game. 0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:50.600 I mean Tom Brady twenty eleven. 0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:52.719 Tom Brady had a terrible defense too, and then he 0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:54.280 get their lines has stopped. 0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.520 They've been trying to fix it left and right. 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:58.680 Yeah, I think less about the line because he had 0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.879 the worst offensive line in football, went to the Super Bowl, 0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.080 but he gets hurt a lot, so that's on him. 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.120 Yeah, you got I mean something, you got to say 0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:06.480 one thing. 0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:07.960 We all kind of point to right, like is there 0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:10.640 there's no other real like, come on, dude, get it together, 0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:11.840 Like he's just it's injuries. 0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:13.080 Jo Burrow and Dallas. 0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:18.799 Can you imagine that? Poor Joe Burrow Cincinnati, I really, 0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:21.239 I mean two years ago their problem was definitely their 0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:24.600 defense has been there, threw all the touchdown talk for 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.520 a handful of years. But I think, guy, you know, 0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.200 he has less to prove though than like Josh Allen 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.640 or Herbert or Lamar. Like he's done more winning than 0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:34.239 those guys have. 0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:37.719 So Joe Burrow has done more winning than Josh Allen 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:38.360 in the playoffs. 0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.759 Yeah, he's like five and two, Paul, he went to 0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:47.160 a super bowls a super Bowl. Okay, So why do 0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.200 we why do we analyze the games if we just 0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:50.879 have to look and see who won the Super Bowl 0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:53.560 and said he's won more in the playoffs, you think. 0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.760 I do think he's won more in the playoffs because. 0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:58.480 Josh Allens won a bunch of wild card games that 0:41:58.520 --> 0:41:59.520 we're gonna rack him up. 0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:01.520 So that way we do. 0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:04.560 So Joe, what what Joe Burrows five and two in 0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:05.080 the playoffs? 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:05.920 I just looked it up. 0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.560 And Andrew was four and four, and so he does 0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:10.760 have a better record than Andrew Lucky we were comparing. 0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.759 But Josh Allen, which Josh Allen's got like ten or 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:14.879 twelve playoff wins? 0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:16.839 Does he not? He's been in the playoffs more? 0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:17.200 Yeah? 0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:20.000 Yeah, So now we're so now we're not crediting for 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:22.920 making the playoffs, but we're giving Borrow credit for not 0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.200 making the players go to. 0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:28.359 The super Bowl. But don't I said he's had more 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.839 success in the playoffs. I don't think he has. 0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:32.160 Is that not what I said? 0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:33.799 I think eight wins is better than five? 0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:34.360 Okay? 0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.399 So which a wild card round is better than five? 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:38.040 Okay? 0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.719 So let's take all the wildcard games away. Joe Burrow 0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.600 went to many non wildcard games. Is Joe Burrow won one? 0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:45.799 He went to an AFC championship game that he lost 0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.240 to Mahomes and they had to hit along the sideline 0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.719 that they called in the Chiefs favor. They lost that 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:52.719 game and then he made it. That was back to 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:53.600 back years, right. 0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.160 So he won wildcard game that year. 0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.560 Okay, So so Josh Allen went to the AFC Championship 0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:01.479 game the COVID year and hasn't been back. We're twenty 0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:02.240 twenty six. 0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:05.879 So it's I would say that, but Adlin's there more often. 0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:09.640 He's had a better playoff track record. Okay, like one 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:11.120 run that he made he got. 0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.600 To the super Bowl. It's two runs though, it's not 0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:15.080 one run to the super Bowl. 0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:15.480 Yeah. 0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:18.880 Otherwise, Alan did the same thing. Allen got to conference championship. 0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.040 They losing the conference championship, just. 0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:21.680 Like Burrow did. 0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:23.799 Yeah, it didn't get blown one time. 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:26.960 One time. Borrow got to the super Bowl. So that 0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:27.600 makes him better. 0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:28.839 I didn't say it made him better. 0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.040 You said he had more playoff success. I don't think 0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:32.560 he has. He hasn't been to the playoffs. 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.600 Agree, Like, if you want to say he's had more 0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:38.319 playoff success than Lamar Jackson, that I would, I would. 0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.480 I would agree with Lamar Jackson's really never had any 0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:45.920 playoff runs. None or Herbert, well, Herbert has never won 0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:46.400 the playoff. 0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:48.520 Gave me listen, I give Joe Burrow that's a blow. 0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:50.879 Joe Burrow getting to the playoffs once with that team. 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:53.000 I give him a lot of credit for But Josh, 0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:55.200 I think Josh Allen has been more successful. 0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:56.320 I mean in the playoffs. 0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:58.839 Was Buffalo any less a mess when Joe Burrow Josh 0:43:58.920 --> 0:43:59.840 Allen got there than since it? 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:00.560 Right? 0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:02.640 Right, Like that's a mess of. 0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.879 We have different definitions of playoff success and that's okay. 0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:07.280 We don't have to keep arguing. 0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.160 Yeah, success for me is playing well in playoff games. 0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:10.759 That's I think. 0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:12.840 Burrows played really well in the playoffs. Now he hasn't 0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:15.040 been there as often as Josh, but that's part of it. 0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:21.560 I mean to say, like when he's there, he's played well. 0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:23.600 It is true, but he's not there a lot. 0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.640 That's okay. That wasn't my argument. That's not what I said. 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:28.759 And if he would keep repeating that, like if he was, 0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:29.759 if he was, like. 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.120 What did you say that Josh Allen was eight and seven? 0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:34.799 Eight and seven? 0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:37.040 If he was, if he was like eight and seven, I. 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:39.360 Would say he's had more playoff success than Josh Allen 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:41.359 because he's there every year and he made deeper run. 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.880 He made deeper runs than Josh Allen, but he went twice. 0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:49.279 Like when he was there one year, he had a 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:51.759 more success than Josh Allen. But I'd rather be the 0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.279 guy that gets there every year, so would I. That's 0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:57.080 not that's more success in the playoffs. I think that's 0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:58.040 more playoff success. 0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.360 Jordan says the post and we went whoop. 0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:03.960 Jordan say, I think he had more playoff successes. You 0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:06.800 don't like. That's not moving the goal post. We disagree. 0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:08.920 Goal post was here, we went not really you can 0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:10.840 move goal posts. I still disagree with you. 0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:13.640 Joe Burrow is a bus driver. If he was my 0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:15.920 bus driver, I would never get to school because he's 0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:19.520 hurt every season. Best ability is availability and he gets 0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:23.200 overrated over one good season and beating Mahomes on the road. 0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:26.800 I mean, okay, talent wise he is. 0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.880 Yeah, I'm not going to go there. Joe Burrow is 0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:34.120 one of the top three or four quarterbacks in the NFL. 0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:36.839 I think there's four, and I think he's one of them. 0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:41.960 But like, I mean, I think that's silly to kill 0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:45.520 Joe Burrow because he gets hurt all the time. Like 0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.560 I think that's a mark against him. But like to 0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:52.759 say that you'd never get to like, I don't know. 0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.480 I just think this is a Patriots thing, like who 0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:57.319 we have to lash out, We have to lash out 0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.080 at all the other good quarterbacks because no one's as 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.279 good as Brady and now no one's as good as Drake. 0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:02.759 So that's the case. 0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:05.640 Did you see some of these rankings that have come 0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:09.279 out where like Drake has been consistently in the second tier. Yeah, 0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:11.080 how many comments you're getting on these? 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:11.600 Yeah? 0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:13.640 Like this is is he being snubbed? 0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:15.520 It wrankles, Uh Patriots. 0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.520 Fans not not by Matt McCarthy said that Geez sunk 0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:19.560 in the playoffs. 0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:22.960 And that's that's all. Okay, good discussion, discussion. 0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:23.560 I like it. 0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:27.680 I like it. Chris with a T, I A N. 0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:28.680 What's up, Christian? 0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.960 Hey, I'm with that. And Josh Allen sucks in the playoffs? 0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:34.800 Okay, thanks Christian. 0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.040 That was one of the great ASC championships of all time. 0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:41.239 I mean him going up against mahomes. 0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.080 Back that that was a divisional round doesn't count. 0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:50.360 Sorry, sorry, bad argument, so it doesn't count, Tomato, divisional 0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:51.239 ground doesn't count. 0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:53.360 Okay, but I moved the goal post. 0:46:56.360 --> 0:47:00.120 I had a question about the private equity stake that 0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:04.120 the Patriots sold and I think it was like eight or. 0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:05.200 Nine percent or something. 0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:09.320 How can that How can that money be used? And 0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:12.399 does the team? Does the team get all that money once? 0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:16.320 And can it be used you know, for for for 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:19.640 players and for contracts or is it always designated for 0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:22.040 like certain certain things. I always wonder that, and I 0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:24.400 even when I read online, can never really get like 0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.960 a like a clear answer. Well, it was just curious. 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:28.040 How like that structured? 0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:29.640 I don't know how it's structured. 0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:33.120 But I know this. If you've got that money like 0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:36.000 on paper in the bank, you can use it to 0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:39.440 leverage loans at low rates. You know, so even if 0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:42.040 you don't get in in a lump sum liquid, yeah, 0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:45.600 the bank knows it's coming so that you can do 0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:46.320 more things. 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:49.080 I mean, there's a building down the street that, yes, 0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:53.560 is now a building because they sold eight percent of 0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:54.480 the team to private right. 0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:56.520 And so one thing I do know though is once 0:47:56.600 --> 0:48:01.000 you do that as an owner, now it's always in 0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:03.840 all these agreements that now they can that you have 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:07.759 to be audited by all that all the result of 0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:10.320 that has to go to those equity partners, you know, 0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:13.320 so you're you're under more of a microscope when you 0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:14.439 take on those people. 0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:17.680 So one of the reasons that teams like to use 0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.160 the private equity stuff Christian is because it allows them 0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:23.560 to have that liquid cache, which you're required to have 0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:27.279 in escrow. When you sign these enormous contracts like the 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.480 one we're talking about with Gonzales and the one the 0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:32.200 one that's coming up meat year with Drake May, you 0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:36.319 have to have. The NFL mandates that you have an 0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:39.200 escrow account. If you give someone a fifty million dollars 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:43.759 signing bonus that he's due on January first, you need 0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:46.040 to have that money and escrow in advance of that, 0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:50.479 and a lot of you know, some owners don't really 0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:53.680 have that kind of liquid. Like every team can build 0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:56.240 the facility down the street, you know, down the parking 0:48:56.280 --> 0:49:00.520 lot with loans and leveraging money and whatever. That's they're 0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:03.439 great businessman and that's what they've made their money doing. 0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:06.480 But when you have a stipulation that says if you 0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:08.839 want to sign this player to this contract and you're 0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:10.880 giving them this amount of money, you need to have 0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:14.360 X amount of millions of dollars, not in like you know, 0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.959 in your four oh one K or not in the bank. 0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:19.080 You know, like you need to have the actual dollars. 0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:22.279 That's where the private equity stuff I think is coming in. 0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:26.080 I think that's you know, you know, I don't and 0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.520 I don't even pretend to be a business guy at 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:32.080 that level. But you can make an argument either way 0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:34.560 like that's what it's good, that's why it's good, or 0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:36.120 that could be why it's bad. 0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:38.640 But also you know, listen, like let's just say you 0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:41.120 were a team that took on equity partners and didn't 0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:43.719 have big contracts coming up. I guess you can use 0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:46.640 that money anyway you want, but you're beholden to that investor. 0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:48.520 That's that's an investment for them, and. 0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:50.960 You also need to get yeah, that that investment needs 0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:53.240 to get immediately returned upon your success. 0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:53.920 That's right. 0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:56.279 So you can't say, yeah, yeah, I know, I owe 0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:58.319 you that one hundred and ten million, but I'm going 0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:00.440 to wait on that as soon as you you got 0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:01.120 to get it back to that. 0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:04.320 I think that a big part of why private equity 0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:06.960 has found its way into sports is because a lot 0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:09.160 of these owners have owned these teams for years and 0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:13.520 years and years, and even though their worth is tied 0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:17.840 up in the asset like they are worth ten billion dollars, 0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:20.560 because the Patriots are worth ten billion dollars, But that 0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:22.759 doesn't mean they have ten billion dollars of cash in 0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:26.480 their mattress right right, So in order for them to 0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:28.399 cash out on the asset, they would have to sell 0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:31.440 the asset. So what they're allowing teams to do. And 0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:34.040 this kind of came into football because a lot of 0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:37.080 these teams are owned by families that have owned the 0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:41.920 teams for generations. So the Rooneys, for example, like haven't 0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:44.360 been able to really cash in on the asset in 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:47.200 fifty years, you know, So like this is the way 0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:49.800 that they go about allowing them to get more liquid 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.480 cash on hand is selling these you know, the Patriots 0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:56.040 sold eight percent of the team to private equity. That 0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:59.160 Dad's a big reason why they're doing it is because really, 0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:01.360 I know, it sounds crazy because they're net worse or 0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:04.680 in the billions, but it's because their portfolios of net 0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:06.800 worth is in the billions, not because they actually have 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:07.600 that that's not. 0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:10.560 And you look on Zillo and says your home value 0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:14.120 is good, but go take out a he lock loan 0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:16.239 against the value of your house. You know, it's kind 0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:19.440 of how it works. Loosen up some of that. 0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:27.480 But I did read somewhere where last year or beginning 0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:29.480 of this year, every owner in the NFL got a 0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:31.800 check for almost half a billion dollars. 0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:35.200 And that's before just for the c BA stuff, anything 0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:36.960 for like team podcast hosts. 0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:37.200 Or anything like that. 0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:44.120 Yeah, no, it doesn't. Yeah the house which, by the way, 0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:49.160 episode yeah, episode four will will hit on Sunday. Episode 0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:50.520 three really taking off. 0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:50.799 Yeah. 0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:53.279 Yeah, we interviewed a guy named Bob King, and I 0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:57.719 guess he has a good circle of people, so spread 0:51:57.760 --> 0:51:59.759 the word. What the king specialty was he do? He 0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:04.120 is a restauranteur. He owned many restaurants and sandwich. Yeah, 0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:08.960 and then uh not this episode, we've already filmed it. 0:52:09.000 --> 0:52:10.879 But the episode after we're going to be doing home 0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:14.640 security for homeowners. Yeah, that's a good one. 0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:17.320 You know, serial killers often just find open doors, like 0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:19.439 you know, it's just like they go and they try doors, 0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:20.840 they get in, they go right. And that was one 0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:22.600 of the things that from this many serial killer books 0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:26.120 I've read that I don't alarmed and just make sure your. 0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:28.560 Doors are locked. People don't don't make it easy, don't 0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:30.080 make it serial killers. 0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:32.160 I like the apartment. There's only one way in one 0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:35.800 way curious watch any furious? 0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:37.200 Oh no, I bet you that would be one that 0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:38.640 Lane might. 0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:45.080 Like Cam in Florida. What's up, Cam, Cam Calm. 0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:53.080 They can it's Ken, Ken Ken, Hey, guys, how are 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:53.439 you doing? 0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:53.640 Man? 0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:56.760 I'm getting palms up from our producer, but we'll go ahead. 0:52:56.840 --> 0:53:00.320 Ken, No problem. Hey guys, morning show, this ring. I 0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:01.759 heard something about. 0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:04.360 For booty. 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:06.200 What would you guys think about something like that? 0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:07.200 I do that. 0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:10.080 We we did that a couple of I would. 0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:10.640 I would do it. 0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:11.799 I don't think the Giants would. 0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:15.400 I don't think that that's really been that talk has 0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:16.319 kind of cooled off. 0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:23.480 Okay, thanks, boom Good is definitely. 0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:25.279 Still on the you know, he'll hang up and we'll see. 0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:28.319 But I feel like Thibodeau, we haven't heard quite as 0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:31.400 much about him getting moved as we did maybe in 0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:31.880 the spring. 0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:37.520 Now, neighbors, he looks he looks better than he looks like. Yeah, 0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:39.800 he's been back on the practice field. So maybe the 0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:44.400 urgency for depth of receiver maybe isn't as big for 0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:47.560 the for the Giants, But I know that I don't 0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:49.160 know that they're going to get it. This is like 0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:51.319 Evan's thing, like these guys always seem like they're going 0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:52.080 to get more than they do. 0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:56.160 I agree with Evan on that they were talking about 0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:58.439 like a Day two pick for Thibodeaux, right. 0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:01.960 Yeah, like a third or fourth round pick, similar to 0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:04.759 like what Jalen Phillips got when he moved at the 0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:05.719 deadline last year. 0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:08.080 But I'm not sure that Booty gets it. 0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:11.359 I'm gonna t Paul up on this email. Andrew writes, 0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:14.239 and when is enough enough? We have contracts getting more 0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:16.400 and more extravagant, and I understand we do have some 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:19.200 increase in salary caps to help that issue. I think 0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:21.440 the league needs to get back to reality because these 0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:25.240 franchisers are having trouble even building a great team because 0:54:25.280 --> 0:54:29.120 a player and agent greed. Greed, bad calls, and bad 0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:32.200 rules are ruining the league in the entertainment for watchers. 0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:34.360 I agree with the last part of that email strongly. 0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:36.439 The bad calls are ruining the league. 0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.839 I like that, that's just yeah. 0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:40.279 I mean, we should hold a bag like the way 0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:41.759 of the world, Like I just every time it's like 0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:43.840 can you believe? I can't believe how much it was, 0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:46.359 because that's just the way that sports contracts are going. 0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:48.160 It's a little jarring to me though, when you have 0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:48.760 to switch. 0:54:48.560 --> 0:54:50.640 Sports and they talk about like a huge hockey contract 0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:53.200 and it's like, oh yeah, yeah, like that's big. 0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:55.799 You know the contract that the guy in San Jose got, 0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:58.160 that was like a legit contract, like you know, as 0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:00.880 far as hockey goes, that was quite the contract that 0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:01.279 he got. 0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:03.879 But yeah, I mean when you're what did you say 0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:06.120 that the dental and hockey, what did you say they 0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:07.080 ran the better? 0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:08.360 That would be expensive? 0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:10.919 What did you say they cash a check for close 0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:13.160 to like four hundred and fifty million, four. 0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:17.040 Hundred, four hundred and fifty million dollars but doing nothing 0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:18.440 but existing? 0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:20.920 What did that money come to TV for. 0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:23.279 Just being there? 0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:26.640 Like, and if you're good at it, that's craft is 0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:29.680 and you you can sell rights to different things and 0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:31.520 you know, maximize your revenue. 0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:32.920 Can you imagine money? 0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:35.440 This is the problem with these leagues, Like this is 0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:37.600 you know, more of a problem in baseball, I would 0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.000 say in other leagues, but like you have teams with 0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:42.480 that are collecting the revenue share check that's equal to 0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:46.480 everybody else, and their payrolls are like, you know nothing, 0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:49.560 And the biggest problem in base and so there their 0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:53.000 return on investment is massive because they're making the revenue 0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:56.239 share check, but their payroll is so low, whereas like 0:55:56.320 --> 0:55:58.600 a team like the Dodgers, you know, they have a 0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:01.759 really big payroll and they're making a ton of money 0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:03.600 because of their TV contract right now. 0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:05.080 They have a huge regional name. 0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:07.719 Yeah, but like that, that's I don't think that's as 0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:10.080 big of a problem in football. But in baseball, do. 0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:11.640 You really think there's a team in I mean, I 0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:14.160 know that the emailer probably wasn't being one hundred percent, 0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:15.800 and he's probably trying to set me off, But do 0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:17.640 you really think there's a team in football that doesn't 0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:18.520 have the money to compete? 0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:21.040 Well, I think a lot of I think there are 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:25.000 some teams whose owners don't have the money. That's not 0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:28.399 what I asked, but you know, and now that they're 0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:31.040 allowing these equity partners, there's no excuse. 0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:33.920 Yeah, And this is why I just don't think that there. 0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:38.120 I totally see the difference between a Dallas or a 0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:44.400 New England in Washington and the Giants to like, you know, Arizona, 0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:48.279 you know, Carolina. I totally see the difference. Green Bay 0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:52.000 is probably the poster child for that. But like there's 0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:55.120 no difference in what these teams can set spend on 0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:57.960 their salaries. Like that's all that you might be able 0:56:58.000 --> 0:57:00.800 to make more money and be we're valuable of a 0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:03.600 franchise with the brand name that Pittsburgh and Dallas and 0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:07.440 New England have, But I'm sorry, Like, when you're catching 0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:09.480 a four hundred and fifty million dollar check just for 0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:12.359 being in the NFL, you can pay all the money 0:57:12.400 --> 0:57:13.759 you want to. 0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:14.640 Your your roster. 0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:17.280 I mean, there's a reason the salary cap is exploding 0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.480 every year because the revenues are exploding every year. Next year, 0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:23.200 two years, they're going they're trying to have like sixteen 0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:25.880 international games, you know much money they make off of those. 0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:28.120 Yeah, I think that's why they do them is I 0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:30.680 think there's going to be another spike because the TV 0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:32.040 contract is coming up soon. 0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:34.840 They're trying it's really not coming up. They're going to 0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:36.360 get out of it and make a new one. 0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:38.560 Well I heard Fox isn't interested right now. 0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:41.680 Well, I think you you know a lot of people. 0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:43.920 I think I can put Paul in this category. Like 0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:47.120 the streaming is going to get me more, you know, 0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:50.120 like Amazon, Netflix. I think they're going to get more games. 0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:54.040 But you know, I'm not gonna, like, you know, get 0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:57.480 any sympathy for owners by saying this. But there is overhead. 0:57:57.960 --> 0:58:01.360 I mean, for example, just you know, building down the 0:58:01.400 --> 0:58:04.560 street here is over two hundred million dollars. Then you 0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:06.840 know there's if you have an older stadium, you have 0:58:06.960 --> 0:58:09.720 to renovate or else it's gonna go and disrepair, you know. 0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:12.280 So there's a lot of money you have to spend there. 0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:15.080 So there are and then you know, not to mention, 0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:16.920 you know, the money that you have to have an 0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:18.920 s grow for big contracts that are coming up. 0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:21.840 So in the most successful pre and post game show 0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:24.320 in the history of the NFL does not come. 0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:26.360 Cheap, you know, So actually it does. 0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:29.440 Yes, yes, there is a lot. There is a lot 0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:31.600 of money coming in, there's no doubt. But there's also 0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:33.880 a lot of money going out for these teams. 0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:35.960 I think the one thing that you're working for the 0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:41.200 team has taught me just watching visually US travel and 0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:45.160 the amount of money moving that goes into US traveling 0:58:45.600 --> 0:58:49.640 where there's seven buses and a team plane and an 0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:52.000 X score two hundred hotel rooms. 0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.800 Sorry what an ES score for bars? 0:58:55.440 --> 0:59:00.240 The police escort police. You know, all the food, food 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:04.240 that's available to the players on the road, the conference rooms, 0:59:04.360 --> 0:59:08.360 the whole takeover of the hotel, the people going early 0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:11.400 to scout the hotel that we're going to, like all 0:59:11.480 --> 0:59:14.720 these different things. I'm just thinking to myself, how many 0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:18.160 millions does this cost to just take the team and 0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:22.920 move trip per trip, because it like, it's insane. It's 0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:26.400 actually insane the operation. It's it's really cool to watch, 0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:29.320 but it's insane the operation and the cost that it 0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:30.800 must be to move us. 0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:33.440 I remember my wife the first time she went, I 0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:36.200 think was a Super Bowl trip back in one, but 0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:39.480 she couldn't believe that we got free Dunkin Donuts on 0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:41.640 the bus and there was an escort, and like, we 0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:42.800 just take that for granted. 0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:45.360 The police escort is something. When I went on my 0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:48.160 very first trip, I was like, Mom, Dad, we have 0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:49.000 a police escort. 0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:51.520 Look at I always myself wondering is this really necessary? 0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:57.919 Yes, the time it's not, but there are times where 0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:01.120 you need to get to the plane and it's it's money. 1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:03.440 It's I just see the people who are like on 1:00:03.560 --> 1:00:05.840 the on ramp and you see the state trooper like 1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:08.800 holding everybody there and they must and it's never happened 1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:10.200 to me, But you're sitting there like, what the hell's 1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:10.520 going on? 1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:13.520 And then you see like you're so close. 1:00:13.560 --> 1:00:14.920 It happened to me a couple of times with the 1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:17.800 World Cup, you know, like the teams are coming to 1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:20.439 the facility to get over to be practiced or something 1:00:20.480 --> 1:00:23.320 and yeah and wait, it's just one mini we. 1:00:23.360 --> 1:00:24.200 Got a game to get to. 1:00:25.440 --> 1:00:31.120 I think the uh I think the the the cool 1:00:31.200 --> 1:00:35.000 part too, is like people some people realize it's the 1:00:35.080 --> 1:00:38.800 Patriots and they'll have like their phones, their their phones 1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:42.760 out recording as the caravan and they like and they 1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:44.280 get to they get to our bus and I'm like 1:00:44.360 --> 1:00:47.000 they think that. I'm like Drake here and it's like it's. 1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:47.520 A great video. 1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:49.080 You know, I don't want to be as the person 1:00:49.160 --> 1:00:50.280 they come home and they're like, oh my god, you 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:52.040 got to see this. And then they're like look, look, look, 1:00:52.120 --> 1:00:54.919 yeah it's the Patriots bus. To stick it in your face, 1:00:55.000 --> 1:00:57.040 I hate that's my biggest pep. But you know, your phones, 1:00:57.600 --> 1:00:58.720 don't get your phones in my face. 1:00:58.840 --> 1:00:59.960 Don't get fred don't ever do it. 1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:03.240 On Sunday nights, sometimes they don't have the police escort 1:01:03.240 --> 1:01:05.080 because it's a Sunday night and it's late and they 1:01:05.120 --> 1:01:07.000 think there'll be nobody on the road. And every once 1:01:07.040 --> 1:01:09.040 in a while you get stuck in traffic and you 1:01:09.160 --> 1:01:11.840 hear on the bus the groans of like no escort 1:01:12.040 --> 1:01:13.120 like and it's like, how. 1:01:13.160 --> 1:01:16.720 Spoiled are you spread? I'll never forget it was a 1:01:16.800 --> 1:01:17.240 night game. 1:01:17.360 --> 1:01:17.840 We got home. 1:01:17.960 --> 1:01:20.240 It's like two, three, four of them more I forget. 1:01:20.480 --> 1:01:22.560 And I've never seen thicker fog. 1:01:23.600 --> 1:01:25.360 The bus driver we had, I think it was her 1:01:25.440 --> 1:01:28.160 first time driving, and we're bus five, so we're the 1:01:28.280 --> 1:01:33.120 last one, and she lost the rest of the convoy 1:01:33.600 --> 1:01:35.560 and I hear them on the phone yelling at her, 1:01:35.600 --> 1:01:37.520 you need to keep up, And I said to I said, 1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:41.360 don't worry about it. Just we're fine. We'll get there, 1:01:41.720 --> 1:01:43.160 like there was no reason. 1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:46.400 You couldn't. 1:01:47.840 --> 1:01:49.080 Go in front of you. 1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:50.080 It was so thick. 1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:52.479 I'll never forget that trip. 1:01:52.560 --> 1:01:53.959 Honey, you're doing frive. 1:01:54.360 --> 1:01:58.160 We're not greahound bus material. And then there was another one, 1:01:58.560 --> 1:02:01.520 you know, telling a bus stories, But there was another one. 1:02:01.640 --> 1:02:04.080 We had a young kid, I think his first time 1:02:04.200 --> 1:02:07.440 driving the Patriots, and he was a young guy and 1:02:08.000 --> 1:02:10.080 for some reason he didn't get the memo that bus 1:02:10.200 --> 1:02:13.760 five is the last bush and he starts racing the 1:02:13.880 --> 1:02:17.120 other bus to get first. And I mean, we're going 1:02:17.240 --> 1:02:20.120 up through Providence and he's going about eighty five in 1:02:20.240 --> 1:02:23.720 this in this bus, this Plymouth bus, and one of 1:02:23.800 --> 1:02:25.080 the doctors finally goes. 1:02:26.560 --> 1:02:27.440 Gotta kill us. 1:02:28.160 --> 1:02:29.480 It was pan essential. 1:02:29.640 --> 1:02:31.920 Oh my god, It's like, what is this guy? We 1:02:32.040 --> 1:02:32.919 never saw him again? 1:02:33.640 --> 1:02:33.840 I was. 1:02:34.040 --> 1:02:34.880 I was on that bus. 1:02:35.080 --> 1:02:38.920 Nothing travel for you like the team charter, not like 1:02:39.640 --> 1:02:44.720 you become the most spoiled traveler, Guilty as charged. It 1:02:44.880 --> 1:02:47.880 just ruins you for life, like any commercial plane. I 1:02:48.000 --> 1:02:48.439 was just thinking. 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:50.560 The last prem post game show was obviously the AFC 1:02:50.680 --> 1:02:53.120 Championship game with that huge blizzard and then you know, 1:02:53.200 --> 1:02:54.240 you guys all stayed here. 1:02:54.320 --> 1:02:55.920 But I remember driving home and then it was like 1:02:56.040 --> 1:02:57.960 nobody on the roads. That was one of the craziest 1:02:58.160 --> 1:03:00.440 at home. That was recent. I was like years ago 1:03:00.640 --> 1:03:02.840 this champions because you. 1:03:02.880 --> 1:03:04.920 Guys night right. 1:03:06.720 --> 1:03:08.880 D it was crazy. 1:03:08.960 --> 1:03:10.560 I was lucky to get behind a plow and then 1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:12.120 that kind of but I mean that was that that 1:03:12.800 --> 1:03:14.960 the whole weather from last winter, and then the gun 1:03:15.040 --> 1:03:15.640 of the combine. 1:03:15.680 --> 1:03:19.720 It was he's a blizzard to the night. Endeavor was fantastic. 1:03:19.960 --> 1:03:23.040 I wish we did that around. Like they just won 1:03:23.080 --> 1:03:25.360 the AC Championship game, You're going to the super Bowl. 1:03:25.680 --> 1:03:27.640 Everybody snowed in in the team hotel. 1:03:27.800 --> 1:03:30.120 It was really like the bus is leaving at eight 1:03:30.160 --> 1:03:31.840 and if you ain't there the super Bowl. 1:03:32.000 --> 1:03:35.560 Yeah, it was no curfew, Yeah it was. It was 1:03:35.600 --> 1:03:36.200 a lot of fun. 1:03:37.000 --> 1:03:38.560 If you're not on it, you're not going to the 1:03:38.640 --> 1:03:45.200 super Bowl. James is in Georgia. What's up, James? James 1:03:46.080 --> 1:03:51.960 in Georgia. Jimmy, you're gone. You hang up and listen. Uh, 1:03:52.240 --> 1:03:53.520 Chad's in La, what's up? 1:03:53.640 --> 1:03:53.840 Chad? 1:03:55.040 --> 1:03:55.200 Hey? 1:03:55.280 --> 1:03:56.000 How are you guys? 1:03:56.480 --> 1:03:58.840 Put me in for a blueberry blueberry muffin on the 1:03:59.080 --> 1:03:59.920 bake sale. 1:03:59.680 --> 1:04:03.520 Okay, Okay, to raise money for the owners, Okay, make. 1:04:03.440 --> 1:04:07.240 Sure exactly, Yeah, make sure the Raiders can make payroll. 1:04:08.320 --> 1:04:08.520 Yeah. 1:04:09.000 --> 1:04:12.400 I have a little grievance that I want to share, 1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:16.280 And I'm just curious on what your take is on this. 1:04:16.560 --> 1:04:19.640 So I always here. You know, we we go get 1:04:19.680 --> 1:04:25.080 good players, you know that's most important. And you know 1:04:25.200 --> 1:04:28.520 we have this chemistry, you know between May and Booty 1:04:28.800 --> 1:04:33.200 and I'm just wondering where the conflict is in keeping him. 1:04:33.200 --> 1:04:35.560 I mean, if it's working, why break that. 1:04:36.560 --> 1:04:39.320 He doesn't want to be here well, and they also 1:04:39.360 --> 1:04:40.840 think they have a guy that's better than that. 1:04:41.000 --> 1:04:42.560 I think, yeah, I think it's volume. 1:04:42.760 --> 1:04:43.200 It's yeah. 1:04:43.360 --> 1:04:46.320 You know, he's in the last year of his contract. 1:04:46.400 --> 1:04:48.640 He's going to be a free agent next year. And 1:04:48.760 --> 1:04:50.720 if he's only going to get forty targets in New 1:04:50.760 --> 1:04:54.400 England in a contract year because he's behind AJ Brown 1:04:54.440 --> 1:04:56.600 and Romeo Dobs and Pop Douglas and he's the fourth 1:04:56.680 --> 1:04:59.200 receiver here, or he can go someplace else and be 1:04:59.480 --> 1:05:02.200 the number two receiver and get eighty eighty to one 1:05:02.280 --> 1:05:06.360 hundred targets and then next offseason cash in on that. 1:05:07.280 --> 1:05:09.720 From his perspective, I think that's where it's at. And 1:05:10.320 --> 1:05:12.440 maybe he is better than Romeo Dobbs. I think at 1:05:12.520 --> 1:05:14.720 times in practice he's looked better than Romeo Dobbs. 1:05:14.760 --> 1:05:17.280 He might be a better pure receiver than Romeo Dobbs 1:05:17.360 --> 1:05:20.240 in this offense, but he's gonna play the AJ Brown 1:05:20.360 --> 1:05:23.440 spot more often than not. I'm not sure he's better 1:05:24.520 --> 1:05:27.080 in the in where Romeo Dobbs generally lines up than 1:05:27.160 --> 1:05:30.680 Romeo Dobbs. He might be a better X than Romeo Dobbs. 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:33.880 Is he is he in a tough tough spot, booty, 1:05:34.000 --> 1:05:36.800 because how many teams right now are looking for number 1:05:36.840 --> 1:05:38.760 two outside receiver. 1:05:39.120 --> 1:05:41.360 Now Washington just signed Diggs. They were kind of like 1:05:41.440 --> 1:05:45.280 the big team that was, you know, next to Terry McLaurin. 1:05:45.320 --> 1:05:49.000 I think teams like Carolina. You know, they have Coker, 1:05:49.000 --> 1:05:52.520 who's a good player. They have ted obviously, you know, 1:05:52.600 --> 1:05:54.920 but they they drafted my guy Brazl. Now he's out 1:05:54.960 --> 1:05:58.640 for the season. Uh. San Francisco has injuries at wide receiver. 1:05:59.160 --> 1:06:01.920 Mike Devin everywhere only twenty only twenty Yeah. 1:06:01.960 --> 1:06:07.120 So that you know substation, there's actually nothing that's coming 1:06:07.240 --> 1:06:07.880 from that, right. 1:06:08.000 --> 1:06:10.360 So was there any truth to the fact that Carolina 1:06:10.440 --> 1:06:10.800 has one? 1:06:11.120 --> 1:06:14.640 So they do they do have one, Yes, and some 1:06:14.800 --> 1:06:16.880 of these injuries that they've had have been non contact 1:06:16.960 --> 1:06:17.760 to like it's. 1:06:17.720 --> 1:06:20.360 They do have one. But the one in San Francisco 1:06:21.080 --> 1:06:24.160 that became such a story that John Lynch claims that 1:06:24.240 --> 1:06:27.680 they hired a third party, a bunch of scientists to 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:30.320 do testing to make sure that it wasn't real. Even 1:06:30.360 --> 1:06:32.160 though we were all it was. It was totally like 1:06:32.360 --> 1:06:34.040 not real, and they claim it's not real. 1:06:34.160 --> 1:06:36.040 I don't think but at a certain point when stuff 1:06:36.120 --> 1:06:38.120 like this keeps happening like those, you feel like they're like, 1:06:38.200 --> 1:06:39.480 we got to do something. 1:06:39.200 --> 1:06:41.880 Because in our head. Now it's not true, it's in 1:06:41.960 --> 1:06:44.480 our head, like and every time someone gets just bad luck, 1:06:44.920 --> 1:06:49.439 I mean we they NFL Twitter pressured the Diners into 1:06:49.680 --> 1:06:54.360 having real scientists study the error over their practice fields 1:06:54.600 --> 1:06:57.600 to make sure that they weren't getting injured players because 1:06:57.640 --> 1:06:59.640 of this electrical substance. 1:06:59.200 --> 1:07:00.880 They're walking around with, Like the goes think about it. 1:07:01.000 --> 1:07:06.680 I'm like, literally, they're wearing like hazmat suits. It's okay. 1:07:06.880 --> 1:07:07.440 I did not know. 1:07:07.600 --> 1:07:10.320 I did not know any of this. I know about 1:07:10.360 --> 1:07:13.120 the substation. I didn't know that the Niners had a 1:07:13.200 --> 1:07:16.240 hire a company to conduct the story. 1:07:16.360 --> 1:07:19.560 They claim that they have gotten people in there, and 1:07:19.800 --> 1:07:23.080 they insist that there is no actual truth to it. 1:07:23.200 --> 1:07:25.480 That is just a funny thing that fans are. 1:07:25.600 --> 1:07:27.040 I just I think there's another team. 1:07:27.120 --> 1:07:29.560 It's it's hard to project booty into your offense, you know, 1:07:29.680 --> 1:07:31.240 especially like I'm most like and like if you have 1:07:31.320 --> 1:07:33.040 like Mac Jones, like you know, his best thing is 1:07:33.160 --> 1:07:35.600 getting downfield and catching the deep ball, and so you know, 1:07:35.640 --> 1:07:37.120 if you had a guy who can heave it and 1:07:37.200 --> 1:07:39.200 you feel like, you know, that would give me confidence. 1:07:39.240 --> 1:07:41.600 But bringing them in, you can't expect them to be 1:07:41.640 --> 1:07:43.720 a high volume guy. You can't really expect to move 1:07:43.800 --> 1:07:46.800 him around. But like Kansas City, I'd be interested. 1:07:47.120 --> 1:07:47.280 Yeah. 1:07:47.320 --> 1:07:49.360 I think that's the other problem too, is like Kansas 1:07:49.400 --> 1:07:52.160 City Buffalo, I think there would be interest there. But like, 1:07:52.240 --> 1:07:54.160 if you're the Patriots, do you really want to give 1:07:54.200 --> 1:07:56.760 the chiefs a guy that can help them? 1:07:56.800 --> 1:07:58.760 I mean, you know, this is my question though, did 1:07:58.760 --> 1:07:59.800 the Patriots really care? 1:08:00.120 --> 1:08:00.800 Like did they care? 1:08:01.080 --> 1:08:02.800 Like, because it's all up to kash On Booty. 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:04.960 If kaish On Booty was unhappy and like you know, 1:08:05.000 --> 1:08:06.560 we talk about he wants the targets and all that. 1:08:06.640 --> 1:08:08.400 If he's here and he's playing, like. 1:08:08.480 --> 1:08:10.200 Why do they feel the need to get rid of him? Well, 1:08:10.240 --> 1:08:12.320 that he's going to be okay being number five, that's 1:08:12.400 --> 1:08:13.720 kind of what chat limited. 1:08:14.720 --> 1:08:16.800 I don't think from a Patriots perspective, there is a 1:08:16.840 --> 1:08:19.200 big deal. I think that this is all from Kaishon 1:08:19.280 --> 1:08:22.240 And I'm not putting it like he's doing wrong. Yeah, 1:08:22.360 --> 1:08:25.240 I'm just saying I think Karen Grigian had that he 1:08:25.400 --> 1:08:29.160 requested a trade Kaishon Booty requested the track, right, so 1:08:29.320 --> 1:08:31.680 like this is not I think the Patriots would love 1:08:31.720 --> 1:08:33.760 to keep the embarrassment of Riches for as long as 1:08:33.800 --> 1:08:34.679 they possibly can. 1:08:35.200 --> 1:08:37.720 If for nothing else insurance, you know, someone goes down. 1:08:37.800 --> 1:08:39.080 You have a guy that's. 1:08:39.000 --> 1:08:41.040 Romeo Dobbs isn't as good as they thought he was 1:08:41.120 --> 1:08:43.360 going to be in the offense or whatever. But this 1:08:43.520 --> 1:08:47.000 is a Kaishan Booty problem that he doesn't see the 1:08:47.120 --> 1:08:49.400 volume and the opportunity and chat. 1:08:49.520 --> 1:08:51.280 Sorry, good, good question. I was going to say that 1:08:51.400 --> 1:08:52.599 makes me feel a little better. 1:08:52.680 --> 1:08:56.280 If if the Patriots are willing to keep them, then great, 1:08:56.520 --> 1:08:59.000 And if it's Booty's decision, well that's his choice. 1:08:59.200 --> 1:09:03.160 But uh, I'm glad that we're thinking the way that 1:09:03.360 --> 1:09:04.160 this is just us. 1:09:04.640 --> 1:09:05.759 Like we're advising. 1:09:05.840 --> 1:09:07.679 I have no idea what the Patriots are thinking. 1:09:07.760 --> 1:09:11.000 Yeah, but they shouldn't and they shouldn't be worried about 1:09:11.000 --> 1:09:13.280 his targets, you know, I mean keeping them happy is 1:09:13.360 --> 1:09:15.640 like yeah, but yeah, just based off their actions, it 1:09:15.680 --> 1:09:18.680 doesn't seem like they're in any huge rush to trade them. 1:09:19.120 --> 1:09:21.719 They haven't yet, see. 1:09:21.600 --> 1:09:25.040 I mean I was struck today. It was a lot 1:09:25.080 --> 1:09:28.840 of mac collins, you know, with that group. So I 1:09:28.880 --> 1:09:29.120 don't know. 1:09:29.200 --> 1:09:31.479 I think the Patriots are necessarily thinking in terms of 1:09:31.600 --> 1:09:34.240 Booty having a significant role this year. 1:09:34.479 --> 1:09:36.840 That's you know, one more thing too. Just not a 1:09:36.920 --> 1:09:39.280 great probably time for Dobbs to miss a couple of days. 1:09:39.320 --> 1:09:41.760 Like I feel like we've talked about him slow start, 1:09:41.800 --> 1:09:44.559 felt like he was maybe coming on a little bit concerned. 1:09:44.680 --> 1:09:46.840 And then he now he's missing practices, and I and 1:09:46.920 --> 1:09:50.479 I started to making a you know, we're in a 1:09:50.600 --> 1:09:53.000 small sea, concerned show. Everything is only a small seq. 1:09:53.840 --> 1:09:55.920 Let's see where we get maybe on Monday, because I 1:09:56.000 --> 1:09:58.080 do think he was starting to show signs of picking 1:09:58.160 --> 1:10:00.479 things up, looking a little bit more comfortable, and then 1:10:01.160 --> 1:10:03.519 you know, he missed today's practice. I don't know, we'll see, 1:10:03.720 --> 1:10:08.400 we'll see how long he's out. You know, they practice tomorrow, 1:10:08.439 --> 1:10:09.960 then they get the weekend off, so I wouldn't be 1:10:10.000 --> 1:10:12.360 surprised if he's not there tomorrow to see where we're 1:10:12.360 --> 1:10:12.840 at Monday. 1:10:12.880 --> 1:10:16.280 And I just feel like whenever they throw him the ball, 1:10:16.360 --> 1:10:19.080 it just doesn't look doesn't look great. It's Paul's thing, Like, 1:10:19.120 --> 1:10:21.280 it doesn't look great, it doesn't look right, like it 1:10:21.439 --> 1:10:23.840 looks like Patriots plays, you know, like it does it 1:10:23.880 --> 1:10:26.040 looks like you know, the throw is a little bit 1:10:26.160 --> 1:10:29.040 off or you know he's not maybe head. 1:10:29.200 --> 1:10:33.800 Well, Brendan Lloyd just made everything look impossible. 1:10:34.280 --> 1:10:36.680 Yeah, just as one of those weird ones where like 1:10:36.800 --> 1:10:39.320 you know, he'll run a curl and like the throw 1:10:39.400 --> 1:10:41.400 will be like a little bit off and it's like, well, 1:10:41.479 --> 1:10:43.240 was that just a bad throw or did he was 1:10:43.280 --> 1:10:44.519 he in the wrong right place? 1:10:44.680 --> 1:10:46.519 And this is why I say the Patriots plays, I've 1:10:46.560 --> 1:10:48.920 watched these plays for a lot a lot of years, 1:10:49.000 --> 1:10:51.000 and yes that's because you're old, Yes. 1:10:51.240 --> 1:10:51.720 Very much so. 1:10:52.040 --> 1:10:54.639 And when they don't when, when that happens what Evans said, 1:10:54.640 --> 1:10:57.120 I automatically say, the quarterback threw it where we're supposed to, 1:10:58.160 --> 1:11:00.720 the receiver didn't catch except for one Mac Jones through it. 1:11:01.800 --> 1:11:01.920 Uh. 1:11:02.439 --> 1:11:05.519 Cat is from Chicago. Is in Rhode Island? What's up? Cat? 1:11:05.560 --> 1:11:07.599 You're here for the BTS concert? What's up? 1:11:07.720 --> 1:11:07.920 Cat? 1:11:09.120 --> 1:11:11.120 No, I'm here for you know, New England? 1:11:12.000 --> 1:11:12.680 You enjoying it? 1:11:13.640 --> 1:11:14.479 Are you in Newport? 1:11:15.920 --> 1:11:17.640 How are you? How have you guys been well? 1:11:17.680 --> 1:11:18.120 We miss you? 1:11:18.320 --> 1:11:18.720 Doing good? 1:11:18.760 --> 1:11:19.479 You haven't been around. 1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:22.000 We actually went to a super Bowl this year. It's crazy. 1:11:22.040 --> 1:11:25.599 I'm around, I'm listening. I'm just not able. To call 1:11:25.680 --> 1:11:28.280 in most days, so you know, I'm I'm but I'm 1:11:28.320 --> 1:11:29.200 on vacation this week. 1:11:29.360 --> 1:11:29.639 Okay. 1:11:29.840 --> 1:11:32.320 Cat has one of the great houses in Chicago. 1:11:32.600 --> 1:11:34.960 She's done renovating. Yeah, Toby House. 1:11:35.320 --> 1:11:38.960 No, I'm actually I'm actually in the middle of re renovating. 1:11:39.040 --> 1:11:41.479 We bought the house next door and decided to add 1:11:41.520 --> 1:11:42.719 it on We hired. 1:11:42.600 --> 1:11:45.000 Money in Chicago on the podcast. 1:11:45.080 --> 1:11:47.360 Yeah yeah, so yeah. 1:11:47.439 --> 1:11:50.120 So so when you guys come to Chicago, whoever's coming 1:11:50.120 --> 1:11:52.400 to Chicago, I want to set up a big dinner 1:11:52.479 --> 1:11:55.799 if you're open to it, and take you guys out. 1:11:55.920 --> 1:11:58.599 If you know, Wednesday night dinner with Fred and Cat. 1:11:58.720 --> 1:12:01.040 Awesome. Awesome Wednesday night dinner. 1:12:01.040 --> 1:12:03.200 Wednesday's perfect. I'll set something up. 1:12:03.880 --> 1:12:05.880 All right, So what's what's up? 1:12:07.240 --> 1:12:09.519 Well, just I'm thinking I might come. I'm hoping I'll 1:12:09.560 --> 1:12:11.880 make it down to practice tomorrow, which should be fun. 1:12:12.120 --> 1:12:15.519 And yeah, I have a take on the Booty situation 1:12:15.560 --> 1:12:18.439 where I think they're I mean, I don't see the 1:12:18.520 --> 1:12:20.479 reason why you would trade him at this point. You 1:12:20.560 --> 1:12:23.000 got to keep him, You play him early in the season, 1:12:23.520 --> 1:12:25.599 and then you try to recoup some of that draft 1:12:25.680 --> 1:12:29.320 capital that you lost in the Aj Brown deal. You know, 1:12:29.360 --> 1:12:30.880 what I mean, you get, you keep him, somebody is 1:12:30.920 --> 1:12:33.080 going to get injured for another team, There's going to 1:12:33.120 --> 1:12:35.840 be some sort of situation where somebody is looking for, 1:12:36.560 --> 1:12:38.880 you know, an additional wide receiver who can be a 1:12:38.960 --> 1:12:41.360 deep threat, and then you keep them. And at that 1:12:41.479 --> 1:12:43.479 point you're going to you're going to get a lot 1:12:43.560 --> 1:12:45.240 more for him than you would right now in the 1:12:45.280 --> 1:12:48.000 open market. And I think probably he understands that too. 1:12:48.600 --> 1:12:50.599 You know, he'll find his new home. Somebody then will 1:12:50.600 --> 1:12:53.439 give him a big deal, and it worked out for everybody. 1:12:53.520 --> 1:12:55.000 So I hope that's what they're doing. 1:12:56.479 --> 1:12:59.840 I think there is waiting out to see if someone 1:13:00.080 --> 1:13:02.000 give him something like if he's on the team at 1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:03.280 the beginning of the year. I don't know how he 1:13:03.360 --> 1:13:06.280 increases his value not being a part of the offense. 1:13:06.640 --> 1:13:09.960 If someone gets hurt here, I don't think he would play, 1:13:10.600 --> 1:13:14.280 and based on practices, I don't think he'd play a lot. 1:13:14.479 --> 1:13:15.400 I don't think he'd play a bit. 1:13:15.400 --> 1:13:17.519 I don't think he last year. 1:13:17.560 --> 1:13:19.519 I don't think so he played a lot last year. 1:13:19.640 --> 1:13:21.960 I think he'd played probably like what Kyle Williams played 1:13:22.040 --> 1:13:25.200 last year. You know that's I could see twenty But 1:13:25.439 --> 1:13:28.360 I think the only thing is is like if you 1:13:28.400 --> 1:13:31.439 get into the season and you know, same thing as 1:13:31.520 --> 1:13:35.719 with training camp. You know, people get hurt, teams realize 1:13:35.760 --> 1:13:38.160 we don't have enough like things like that, and maybe 1:13:38.200 --> 1:13:41.280 at the deadline there's an urgency for a team that 1:13:41.360 --> 1:13:43.840 gets desperate and makes that trade. I think that same 1:13:43.960 --> 1:13:46.240 urgency might exist at the end of training camp. But 1:13:46.400 --> 1:13:48.560 the difference is is that if you hold on to 1:13:48.680 --> 1:13:50.479 Booty for the first eight or nine weeks of the 1:13:50.520 --> 1:13:53.680 regular season, if something doesn't work out with somebody, if 1:13:53.720 --> 1:13:57.080 someone gets hurt on your team, or Romeo Dobbs isn't 1:13:57.120 --> 1:13:59.719 getting it or something like that, then you have Booty 1:13:59.760 --> 1:14:01.640 in your back pocket. Like, I think that this is 1:14:02.120 --> 1:14:05.000 one of those similar situations there. You know, I think 1:14:05.080 --> 1:14:08.040 Belichick did this a lot, where you know, you held 1:14:08.080 --> 1:14:10.439 onto the player until the last possible second. 1:14:10.600 --> 1:14:11.040 You'll align. 1:14:11.400 --> 1:14:13.479 Yeah, I'm pretty. 1:14:13.280 --> 1:14:17.599 Worried about Dobbs. Dobbs to me does not check all 1:14:17.640 --> 1:14:20.679 the boxes. So yeah, I don't know how you guys 1:14:20.680 --> 1:14:22.280 feel about that. I have I've heard you say he's 1:14:22.320 --> 1:14:24.639 not making much of a splash in training keep. 1:14:24.560 --> 1:14:27.200 No, he's been quiet, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep. 1:14:27.520 --> 1:14:30.519 So I'm a little worried about that one. But you know, see, 1:14:30.920 --> 1:14:34.559 I'm excited to get down there and see the team. 1:14:34.680 --> 1:14:36.759 And if I see you guys out there, all stuff 1:14:36.760 --> 1:14:37.479 by and stay high. 1:14:37.600 --> 1:14:41.640 All right, Kat, see you tomorrow. Thanks for calling one 1:14:41.680 --> 1:14:44.679 of the all time greats. Right there, you guys. Yep, 1:14:44.920 --> 1:14:47.840 Kat in Chicago, O G O G. 1:14:49.920 --> 1:14:53.360 Let's see Chris and North Carolina. I think our biggest 1:14:53.439 --> 1:14:57.000 need is tight end and our deepest position is wide receiver. 1:14:57.280 --> 1:14:59.800 Why not in the off season have MATC. Collins boke 1:14:59.880 --> 1:15:03.160 up ten to fifteen pounds and triumph the position. We 1:15:03.360 --> 1:15:06.280 just he could be a mismatic annoy me. 1:15:07.000 --> 1:15:07.639 I'm just reading. 1:15:08.320 --> 1:15:10.040 Even if you both up ten fifty pounds, he's still 1:15:10.040 --> 1:15:13.040 need to be small, a small title, a small tight end. 1:15:13.080 --> 1:15:15.040 So I mean, you know, I'll just say the same 1:15:15.080 --> 1:15:16.599 thing everything he's going to do some of those he's 1:15:16.600 --> 1:15:17.960 going to do something in the slot. He's going to 1:15:18.040 --> 1:15:19.880 block some guys and stuff like that. But he's probably 1:15:19.880 --> 1:15:21.280 not going to put his hand in the dirt and 1:15:21.479 --> 1:15:23.479 have to like just go one on one with the defensive. 1:15:23.640 --> 1:15:25.800 Using the wide receiver as a tight end doesn't solve 1:15:25.840 --> 1:15:28.679 your tight end problem. Like even if he is sort 1:15:28.720 --> 1:15:31.120 of a de facto tight end, which I think he 1:15:31.240 --> 1:15:34.479 is at times, and Evan talks about this incessantly. 1:15:34.080 --> 1:15:36.080 Especially at red zone. You know, but it doesn't solve 1:15:36.160 --> 1:15:37.080 your tight end problem. 1:15:37.280 --> 1:15:37.679 He boxed. 1:15:37.880 --> 1:15:40.439 If Hunter Henry goes, you have a tight end problem. 1:15:40.760 --> 1:15:44.920 He box slot corners, safeties and linebackers. But he has 1:15:45.080 --> 1:15:47.680 te next to his name. We like that more than 1:15:47.720 --> 1:15:50.519 if he box slock corners, safeties and linebackers with the. 1:15:50.680 --> 1:15:52.960 Wr and trying to save you the prem. 1:15:53.120 --> 1:15:55.599 Wait, we I keep repeating the same thing. 1:15:55.680 --> 1:15:57.040 I'll just make one quick point though. I mean, I 1:15:57.160 --> 1:15:58.320 just Hunter Henry gets hurt. 1:15:58.360 --> 1:16:00.400 They're in a position I don't remember the last time, 1:16:00.439 --> 1:16:02.320 like they always had kind of some insurance for Gronk 1:16:02.400 --> 1:16:06.000 Marty Bennett and you know they always the too well, 1:16:06.200 --> 1:16:07.920 just throw them in the flames. 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He just 1:18:52.600 --> 1:18:52.880 gets it. 1:18:53.000 --> 1:18:53.120 Man. 1:18:53.160 --> 1:18:54.880 I think he gets the you know what, you know 1:18:54.960 --> 1:18:55.559 how to practice. 1:18:55.600 --> 1:18:56.840 You know, he gets you having to come here and 1:18:56.880 --> 1:18:58.400 show up every day because you know there's no days 1:18:58.439 --> 1:19:00.559 off in this You go and practice league when you're 1:19:00.560 --> 1:19:02.960 blocking guys one on ones and you got team next 1:19:03.000 --> 1:19:05.160 and then we got two minutes. Like it's constant. And 1:19:05.160 --> 1:19:06.880 I think that's what Will is understanding. You know, different 1:19:06.920 --> 1:19:08.920 from college. You know, it's constant. You got to you 1:19:09.080 --> 1:19:10.600 train your body and train your mind and you'll be 1:19:10.640 --> 1:19:12.280 out here every day, each and every day and treat 1:19:12.320 --> 1:19:13.960 it like, man, I gotta try to get better today. 1:19:13.960 --> 1:19:15.240 And I think he's learned that really fast and I 1:19:15.320 --> 1:19:18.320 think he's you know, taking it, You're taking a head 1:19:18.360 --> 1:19:19.760 on and I'm looking forward to seeing you know him 1:19:19.800 --> 1:19:20.479 this year do his thing. 1:19:20.960 --> 1:19:23.960 He started slow yesterday and then finished pretty strong. 1:19:24.040 --> 1:19:25.960 What did you learn about the group yesterday? 1:19:25.960 --> 1:19:27.600 And what is a strong finish like that do for you? 1:19:27.720 --> 1:19:29.599 I think it's you know, you know, I hate to say, 1:19:29.680 --> 1:19:31.400 but sometimes it's gonna happen, and we try to avoid 1:19:31.439 --> 1:19:32.560 that as best I can. I can maybe do a 1:19:32.600 --> 1:19:34.760 better job of starting us off faster, but no, you 1:19:34.840 --> 1:19:36.800 gotta respond, you know. That's that's the that's the NFL, 1:19:36.920 --> 1:19:38.800 that's life, you know, responding from times where you feel 1:19:38.800 --> 1:19:40.559 like maybe lest some players out there, and we really 1:19:40.640 --> 1:19:42.400 realize that it's self inflicted. So we got to take 1:19:42.400 --> 1:19:44.320 care of our stuff. On offense, you'll be in the 1:19:44.400 --> 1:19:46.040 right spot and takes all eleven of us. So just no, 1:19:46.120 --> 1:19:48.519 the we're on the same page, really. 1:19:48.360 --> 1:19:50.519 Strong, cancel far, he's going to involved, it's on the 1:19:50.560 --> 1:19:51.280 trade rooms. 1:19:51.479 --> 1:19:54.080 He's going to get your thoughts on that and whether 1:19:54.120 --> 1:19:55.519 you'd like to see if you stick around this season. 1:19:55.680 --> 1:19:57.160 I think just the way catch on the approach to him, 1:19:57.160 --> 1:19:59.439 and he's here, he's here now, he's he he's where 1:19:59.479 --> 1:20:01.280 his feet at and you know, I'm having fun throwing 1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:02.840 him out there in practice. He's doing a great job 1:20:02.920 --> 1:20:04.880 and he makes plays on the footballs in the air 1:20:04.880 --> 1:20:06.400 and I think you can speak for that. That speaks 1:20:06.439 --> 1:20:09.040 for itself. So I've had a lot of great times 1:20:09.040 --> 1:20:10.920 with Kayshawn and I'm looking forward to you keep getting better. 1:20:10.960 --> 1:20:11.479 Eatch you every day. 1:20:12.080 --> 1:20:14.479 The phrase chemistry a lot the team has chemistry, A 1:20:14.560 --> 1:20:16.280 quarterback has chemistry, or receivers. 1:20:16.600 --> 1:20:19.400 What's your definition of chemistry and do you have it 1:20:19.720 --> 1:20:20.719 with your teammates. 1:20:20.760 --> 1:20:22.760 I think chemistry is ongoing. I think there's different levels 1:20:22.800 --> 1:20:22.920 to it. 1:20:23.000 --> 1:20:25.519 I think there's times where you you try to, you know, 1:20:25.600 --> 1:20:27.200 build it, and there's times where you try to you know, 1:20:27.280 --> 1:20:29.559 maybe you feel like you can, you know, even reach 1:20:29.640 --> 1:20:31.679 that next level. I think there's always, you know, ways 1:20:31.680 --> 1:20:33.679 to improve with players. I think guys that are playing 1:20:33.680 --> 1:20:36.840 for so long and you know whoever it was, Brady 1:20:36.880 --> 1:20:38.599 and Gronk, I bet if you asked them, they'd still 1:20:38.640 --> 1:20:40.880 say and you know, year seven and eight, they're still, 1:20:40.960 --> 1:20:42.800 you know, building ways for their game. And I think 1:20:42.840 --> 1:20:44.439 there's times where you know, you feel like you're in 1:20:44.479 --> 1:20:46.800 a at a stage with a player for two or 1:20:46.840 --> 1:20:48.600 three years with Hunter, and there's still times where me 1:20:48.600 --> 1:20:50.120 and Hunter, you know, so thirty you're playing together that 1:20:50.120 --> 1:20:51.920 we can still elevate our games and and kind of 1:20:52.360 --> 1:20:54.000 you know, different looks. There's so many different routes and 1:20:54.040 --> 1:20:56.200 so many different plays and looks where you can feel like, hey, 1:20:56.280 --> 1:20:58.200 I understand what he's doing, what he's thinking, and we're 1:20:58.200 --> 1:21:00.560 trying to react the same way to just heave With 1:21:00.640 --> 1:21:02.400 Tom Brady, is there anything that you picked up when 1:21:02.400 --> 1:21:04.559 it comes to the way that he used and manipulated tempo. 1:21:06.360 --> 1:21:08.040 I think coach McDaniels is, you know, one of the 1:21:08.080 --> 1:21:10.120 best about you know, kind of learning from it because 1:21:10.120 --> 1:21:11.640 he's the one I was teaching it out there and 1:21:11.960 --> 1:21:14.280 calling it. So I think just having you know, the 1:21:14.320 --> 1:21:15.840 best thing is having you know what to do before 1:21:15.840 --> 1:21:17.479 you snap it. I think, not snap it into a 1:21:17.600 --> 1:21:19.439 bad look or just to play fast for no reason. 1:21:19.520 --> 1:21:21.479 I think coach is great about, you know, making sure 1:21:21.560 --> 1:21:22.240 we're in a good play. 1:21:22.320 --> 1:21:23.720 I think that was one of the things you notice 1:21:23.760 --> 1:21:25.920 when we're watching some of the tempo, to make sure 1:21:25.920 --> 1:21:27.280 we have a good play and stay on track, because 1:21:27.280 --> 1:21:29.200 you don't want to snap it fast and have incomplete 1:21:29.320 --> 1:21:31.160 or a negative run. You want to kind of keep 1:21:31.200 --> 1:21:32.519 the chains moving and keep it going to keep the 1:21:32.560 --> 1:21:34.639 defense tired and on their heels. So that's the biggest 1:21:34.640 --> 1:21:36.160 thing I noticed, is just kind of you know, keeping 1:21:36.160 --> 1:21:36.760 the chains moving. 1:21:38.360 --> 1:21:40.719 Contract negotiations and here to still be ongoing. 1:21:40.800 --> 1:21:43.439 Here, You're you're a year from being in a similar 1:21:43.520 --> 1:21:46.599 spot where you can negotiate a new deal. Does how 1:21:46.680 --> 1:21:48.479 this has gone with him make you wonder at all 1:21:48.640 --> 1:21:51.040 if you might have to wait for a new deal 1:21:51.160 --> 1:21:51.879 from the Patriots. 1:21:52.240 --> 1:21:54.559 I'm not thinking about that right now. I mean, I think, 1:21:54.680 --> 1:21:56.240 you know, I'm you know, a big fan of Gonzo 1:21:56.320 --> 1:21:57.880 and and kind of how things are playing out. So 1:21:58.479 --> 1:22:00.439 I respect him for being out here and Pete and 1:22:00.680 --> 1:22:02.360 one to practice. I think that speaks a lot for 1:22:02.840 --> 1:22:04.360 you know, you know him wanted to be here, and 1:22:04.800 --> 1:22:06.160 you know, I think, you know, like I said, he's 1:22:06.600 --> 1:22:08.200 said before, he's one of the best Scorns in the league. 1:22:08.240 --> 1:22:10.240 So I'm looking forward to, you know, playing with him, 1:22:10.240 --> 1:22:11.920 and I'm glad he's on our team. 1:22:12.560 --> 1:22:15.200 To think about, you know, your future and your long 1:22:15.320 --> 1:22:18.000 term future and maybe being I don't think, you know, 1:22:18.040 --> 1:22:19.240 I think it's hard to think about it. For me. 1:22:19.280 --> 1:22:20.920 I try to be in the president, you know every day, 1:22:21.520 --> 1:22:23.080 you know, the president. That's why they called a president. 1:22:23.120 --> 1:22:24.519 Man's a gift. So I just try to, you know, 1:22:24.720 --> 1:22:26.880 be here, be where my feet are, and try to 1:22:26.880 --> 1:22:27.439 get better and better. 1:22:29.320 --> 1:22:32.600 Talk more trash than the offensive. Is there someone on 1:22:32.680 --> 1:22:34.600 the defensive side of the ball who gets after that? 1:22:34.800 --> 1:22:37.160 We still just love talking football, you know, really respects 1:22:37.200 --> 1:22:39.640 Ballane's you know, knowledge for the game. And you know, 1:22:39.680 --> 1:22:42.600 I think he he loves you know, talking and he 1:22:42.720 --> 1:22:44.800 loves seven on seven and trying to pick me off. 1:22:44.880 --> 1:22:46.920 And I think he's a great player in this league. 1:22:47.040 --> 1:22:49.360 And I think he's just shows up man and the 1:22:49.520 --> 1:22:51.760 uh he has a few interceptions last year, but uh 1:22:52.000 --> 1:22:52.559 on defense? 1:22:52.600 --> 1:22:57.639 Who talks a lot on the field. That's a good question, 1:22:58.360 --> 1:23:00.439 Charles Woods. Yeah, I'm not. They're outside. 1:23:00.479 --> 1:23:01.960 Don't want to hear him as much. I hear Barmore 1:23:01.960 --> 1:23:04.200 inside a little bit. Barbore will get riled up. I 1:23:04.320 --> 1:23:06.479 like hearing Barmore talk. But you know, really, I think 1:23:06.479 --> 1:23:08.640 all our guys got a little little stuff to him. 1:23:08.640 --> 1:23:10.080 I think that's what you need in defense. You like 1:23:10.160 --> 1:23:11.880 having hearing those guys and you know, I try to, 1:23:12.000 --> 1:23:13.479 you know, be nice to them. But at the same time, 1:23:13.520 --> 1:23:15.519 you got a little, you gotta have a little you'll 1:23:15.560 --> 1:23:18.360 talk back because you know they respected. Your relationship with 1:23:18.479 --> 1:23:20.320 Dared Wilson goes back to when he was almost a 1:23:20.360 --> 1:23:21.040 college teammate. 1:23:21.400 --> 1:23:22.760 So how does that kind of help you guys in 1:23:22.800 --> 1:23:24.920 this transition with him? And so, yeah, I wanted to 1:23:24.920 --> 1:23:26.000 play for him back in college. 1:23:26.080 --> 1:23:28.800 He took his talents to a bigger, bigger dreams, So 1:23:29.200 --> 1:23:30.320 you know, I can't blame him for that, but no, 1:23:30.400 --> 1:23:32.280 I think he's done a great job of adapting. It's 1:23:32.360 --> 1:23:34.400 you know, it's a lot more communication. You know, I 1:23:34.439 --> 1:23:36.080 think he was one he was eager to get inside 1:23:36.080 --> 1:23:38.720 and play center. So he's he's kind of learning the 1:23:38.840 --> 1:23:40.160 kind of the senter he played in college. But in 1:23:40.160 --> 1:23:42.000 the NFL, man, it's every day and you got to 1:23:42.000 --> 1:23:43.680 be durable and you got to be you know, you know, 1:23:43.960 --> 1:23:46.360 communication and little things like that. But he's doing a 1:23:46.360 --> 1:23:48.400 great job and looking forward to kind of building you know, 1:23:48.479 --> 1:23:49.320 center and quarterback. 1:23:49.360 --> 1:23:51.160 Me, that's one of the biggest relationships on the field. 1:23:52.479 --> 1:23:54.799 I'll talk a little bit with a guy like dogs 1:23:54.840 --> 1:23:57.559 committed into our system and Josh's offense, Yeah, how much 1:23:57.600 --> 1:23:58.200 you have to work with. 1:23:58.280 --> 1:24:00.880 Him decision making the emakes how to get on that 1:24:01.000 --> 1:24:01.840 same page as. 1:24:01.680 --> 1:24:03.439 You go into this with a sense of Yeah, I 1:24:03.439 --> 1:24:04.880 think he's a fast learner. That's the biggest thing. You know, 1:24:04.920 --> 1:24:05.639 he's a fast learner. 1:24:05.640 --> 1:24:07.360 So it's it's it's really easy for a good player 1:24:07.400 --> 1:24:09.559 at the fast leunner to to kind of understand things. 1:24:09.600 --> 1:24:11.720 And I think there's you're trying to overload them and 1:24:11.720 --> 1:24:13.240 try to take it one thing at a time. But 1:24:13.280 --> 1:24:14.920 at the same time, he feel like he's got, you know, 1:24:15.080 --> 1:24:17.320 a great capacity for for knowledge of the game, you know, 1:24:17.400 --> 1:24:19.439 knowledge of how he does things, and just like picking 1:24:19.479 --> 1:24:21.160 his brain about how they did things maybe in Green Bay, 1:24:21.200 --> 1:24:23.519 and try to say how are different, how are we similar, 1:24:23.560 --> 1:24:25.479 and kind of how I see things. So he played 1:24:25.520 --> 1:24:27.000 with a great quarterback there, and I think, you know, 1:24:27.080 --> 1:24:29.120 trying to you know, like I said, build chemistry and 1:24:29.320 --> 1:24:30.639 get on the same page and he'll make some great 1:24:30.640 --> 1:24:31.080 plays for us. 1:24:32.360 --> 1:24:35.080 Let fly against the different defense next morning. 1:24:35.160 --> 1:24:36.439 Yeah, we were just talking in locker room and you 1:24:36.760 --> 1:24:38.720 kind of get want to, you know, face somebody else, 1:24:38.760 --> 1:24:39.880 but at the same time you got to you know, 1:24:40.040 --> 1:24:42.120 not not shy away from trying to get better against 1:24:42.120 --> 1:24:44.320 our defense, which is a great defense. So yeah, We're 1:24:44.320 --> 1:24:46.200 looking forward against some more practice against us and then 1:24:46.200 --> 1:24:48.559 obviously got you know, Indan Apples coming in, So looking 1:24:48.560 --> 1:24:50.519 forward to you know, getting somebody else to hit. 1:24:52.000 --> 1:24:53.599 You when it comes to you for the season again 1:24:53.600 --> 1:24:55.880 and help much series again. 1:24:56.280 --> 1:24:58.000 Yeah, no, I think you know, I haven't even heard, 1:24:58.040 --> 1:24:59.560 so we haven't even talked about that. We're trying to 1:25:00.040 --> 1:25:02.600 you'll stay focused on practice and you know what what 1:25:02.720 --> 1:25:04.719 we did last year and maybe a little bit different 1:25:04.720 --> 1:25:07.120 scheduled this year. But I'll be out there, you know, 1:25:07.160 --> 1:25:08.360 if they want to be out there, I'll be out there. 1:25:08.439 --> 1:25:10.400 So I'm not shign away from probably being out there. 1:25:11.640 --> 1:25:16.400 And now great moments in built history. 1:25:17.280 --> 1:25:20.800 One o'clock on CBS, the one and one Bears are 1:25:20.880 --> 1:25:21.880 at the oh to two. 1:25:21.920 --> 1:25:24.720 Cults ind by one. 1:25:25.960 --> 1:25:27.200 Oh tough one? 1:25:27.439 --> 1:25:28.600 Ah, what's that? 1:25:28.760 --> 1:25:29.320 What's that really? 1:25:29.360 --> 1:25:29.559 Though? 1:25:29.600 --> 1:25:33.360 Fred? Well, they're minus two then plus two. 1:25:33.600 --> 1:25:35.840 Well there you go, tells you all the to know. 1:25:35.880 --> 1:25:37.280 I don't know, I'm gonna go Cleveland at home. 1:25:37.520 --> 1:25:40.680 No Indies plus one, they get three, so they're minus two. 1:25:40.800 --> 1:25:45.000 They're at home, so they they get three, right, right, 1:25:45.840 --> 1:25:47.439 So it's really like they're plus two. 1:25:47.720 --> 1:25:48.559 They should be four. 1:25:48.760 --> 1:25:52.320 So if you're getting three that means they're favored by one. 1:25:52.640 --> 1:25:53.400 They're not getting it. 1:25:53.720 --> 1:25:56.479 They are get they're giving points. They're favored by one. 1:25:57.040 --> 1:25:57.920 They didn't get the three. 1:26:00.680 --> 1:26:04.000 If you couldn't follow the nonsensical three points for the home, 1:26:04.600 --> 1:26:06.400 what would the spread be if it was neutral? Don't 1:26:06.400 --> 1:26:09.559 bring me into this anyone for three? 1:26:10.160 --> 1:26:11.720 Did you get three points at home? You would you 1:26:12.040 --> 1:26:13.320 giving you plus three? 1:26:13.800 --> 1:26:13.920 Right? 1:26:14.320 --> 1:26:16.200 Plus two? If it was zero? 1:26:16.600 --> 1:26:17.400 I thought you get three. 1:26:18.120 --> 1:26:18.680 Three at home? 1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:21.479 He says you get three. It's not it doesn't exist. 1:26:21.800 --> 1:26:23.439 But he insists that you get three at home. 1:26:23.479 --> 1:26:25.240 It's a rule. So they're favored by one. 1:26:26.520 --> 1:26:27.680 Isn't three minus three zero? 1:26:28.080 --> 1:26:29.639 So that would be you remind us seeing. 1:26:29.439 --> 1:26:31.959 Three you said it was zero, that would be you gotta. 1:26:31.760 --> 1:26:36.040 Hurry, We gotta I gotta hurry. That's another great moment 1:26:36.320 --> 1:26:40.680 from and Costello. That was great. I don't know if 1:26:40.720 --> 1:26:41.280 I've heard that one. 1:26:42.800 --> 1:26:43.479 It's a rule. 1:26:44.760 --> 1:26:47.120 Football season is just around the corner, and it's time 1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:49.519 to get your living room game day ready with Bob's 1:26:49.560 --> 1:26:52.920 Discount furniture. Save big on quality style when you shop 1:26:53.000 --> 1:26:56.599 Bob's top rated sofas for only four ninety nine and under. 1:26:57.160 --> 1:27:01.479 Like the retro Chic Betty or the Saving Aspen, both 1:27:01.520 --> 1:27:04.120 available and tons of sizes and colors to match your 1:27:04.240 --> 1:27:08.040 home team headquarter vibe. So stop in or shop online 1:27:08.120 --> 1:27:12.200 to score big on football season fines. With Bob's Discount Furniture, 1:27:12.479 --> 1:27:16.439 the official furniture store of the New England Patriots, You're 1:27:16.479 --> 1:27:18.880 gonna be in the Bob's Discount Furniture. 1:27:18.479 --> 1:27:20.599 Studio from tonight. 1:27:20.720 --> 1:27:22.559 That's right. Can I ask you a question real quick. 1:27:22.600 --> 1:27:25.160 I'm in the market for a new refrigerator. Yeah, I 1:27:25.200 --> 1:27:27.320 think we're gonna buy one. Any any tips on I 1:27:27.439 --> 1:27:31.080 go with ge probably, you know, like it depends on 1:27:31.120 --> 1:27:33.200 how many bells and whistles you want. I'd love to 1:27:33.240 --> 1:27:34.920 have Crush Dice. I love Crush. Yeah. 1:27:35.200 --> 1:27:41.120 So that's not like they have like smart refrigerators. Now, 1:27:41.360 --> 1:27:42.360 I think that's Fred's talking. 1:27:42.400 --> 1:27:42.880 We get smart. 1:27:43.040 --> 1:27:44.559 I don't think you want that smart. 1:27:44.880 --> 1:27:48.639 You know the LGDU have a lot of bells and whistles. 1:27:48.920 --> 1:27:52.320 Yeah, I have a ge you know it's a double 1:27:52.400 --> 1:27:55.760 door with the double door, that's what That's what my 1:27:55.800 --> 1:27:56.120 dream is. 1:27:56.439 --> 1:27:58.280 The thing, Crush Dice. 1:27:58.320 --> 1:27:59.000 I think we're gonna do. 1:27:59.080 --> 1:28:01.519 It's tax free weekend this week, and so I think 1:28:01.560 --> 1:28:03.519 we're going to make a make a purchase that we've 1:28:03.520 --> 1:28:04.920 been dreaming about for a long time. 1:28:05.280 --> 1:28:07.240 You know, it's our ice machine just has never worked. 1:28:07.240 --> 1:28:08.800 I literally need to put like I have to. 1:28:08.800 --> 1:28:11.160 Put a tray underneath the ice maker because it just 1:28:11.240 --> 1:28:13.559 drips water down and it'll be like Game of Thrones 1:28:13.560 --> 1:28:14.040 to the wall. 1:28:15.760 --> 1:28:18.360 I have you checked the level on your on your 1:28:18.760 --> 1:28:21.040 because sometimes when you have trouble with your ice maker, 1:28:21.240 --> 1:28:25.160 it's because you're not level. Oh maybe it's old. It 1:28:25.240 --> 1:28:26.320 was with the house when we bought it, so oh, 1:28:26.320 --> 1:28:27.960 we got to get rid of this thing. But okay, yeah, 1:28:27.960 --> 1:28:28.760 thank you. I appreciate that. 1:28:29.000 --> 1:28:31.920 Why crushed ice, It's so good, right, crushed ice awesome? 1:28:31.960 --> 1:28:33.120 Oh, crushed ice is the way to go. 1:28:34.000 --> 1:28:35.720 Really, I'm not a going to ask. I'm not a 1:28:35.760 --> 1:28:36.439 big ice guy. 1:28:37.800 --> 1:28:41.920 You love Germany? Then in general, can I give you 1:28:41.960 --> 1:28:42.720 some lukewarm water? 1:28:43.160 --> 1:28:45.160 Because I like put my drinks in their fridge so 1:28:45.240 --> 1:28:47.600 that they're cold, you know. 1:28:47.680 --> 1:28:49.560 And I'm going to say, like the high Nuns with 1:28:49.640 --> 1:28:51.880 the ice in them. I'm kind of a little bit 1:28:51.960 --> 1:28:55.559 with Evan in that if I don't need ice, I'm 1:28:55.600 --> 1:28:57.880 not going to have it because it dilutes the drink. 1:28:57.960 --> 1:28:59.200 But sometimes I think that's better. 1:28:59.320 --> 1:29:01.439 Like I like a guy, like a like a watered 1:29:01.560 --> 1:29:03.400 down a little bit of water, a little less sugary 1:29:03.479 --> 1:29:06.120 little if I do have so fast? 1:29:06.280 --> 1:29:08.280 What's that crushed ice dilute so fast? 1:29:08.600 --> 1:29:08.920 It does? 1:29:09.040 --> 1:29:10.519 So what are we talking about? 1:29:10.920 --> 1:29:14.120 The Other thing is it's great if I. 1:29:14.200 --> 1:29:16.640 Have a soda or whatever with ice in it. I 1:29:16.840 --> 1:29:18.280 never ever drink through a straw. 1:29:19.080 --> 1:29:20.920 Really about your teeth? 1:29:21.120 --> 1:29:23.080 I don't know. I don't like drinking, and I'll tell 1:29:23.080 --> 1:29:25.240 you why. Because when you drink through the straw, you're 1:29:25.280 --> 1:29:27.519 drinking through the bottom. If you drink through the top, 1:29:27.760 --> 1:29:30.880 you're filtering it through the ice, so it's colder and 1:29:31.120 --> 1:29:34.600 it forces you to drink slower. Yeah, I mean I 1:29:34.680 --> 1:29:38.720 think frosty mugs are too. Yeah, frosty could be why 1:29:38.960 --> 1:29:41.719 why are okay? Because you're not gonna get. 1:29:41.680 --> 1:29:43.400 The is a good one. 1:29:43.680 --> 1:29:44.680 Frosted mugs are good for. 1:29:45.560 --> 1:29:47.519 Fred and I ever tell you, See, these jokes are 1:29:47.600 --> 1:29:49.200 as funny as they used to be. Fred, But Fred, 1:29:49.439 --> 1:29:50.760 Fred and I ever tell you about one of the 1:29:51.160 --> 1:29:54.240 Super Bowl parties in Indianapolis. We were at the Indy 1:29:54.320 --> 1:29:56.920 five hundred oh nice at the track, it's a race track. 1:29:57.120 --> 1:30:00.880 They had ice, beer, mugs. They were actually made out 1:30:00.880 --> 1:30:05.960 of ice. They gave they gave everybody a glove, so 1:30:06.080 --> 1:30:08.200 you had you had the glove on the on the 1:30:08.280 --> 1:30:08.800 ice mug. 1:30:09.640 --> 1:30:11.800 That now that's a cold beer. How much cold much? 1:30:11.920 --> 1:30:14.920 That's a cold beer? Telling you that's a cold beer. 1:30:15.920 --> 1:30:17.559 Sometimes your lip would get stuck. 1:30:18.600 --> 1:30:20.880 This is too like, this is too many accidents waiting. 1:30:21.680 --> 1:30:24.519 It's like a Christmas story. And did you come to 1:30:24.600 --> 1:30:26.720 the did you kiss the. 1:30:27.439 --> 1:30:28.400 Yeah the bricks story? 1:30:28.760 --> 1:30:30.080 Yea, drink the milk. 1:30:30.160 --> 1:30:32.200 The great David Silverman took a picture of me doing that. 1:30:32.320 --> 1:30:33.360 Got the got the bald spot. 1:30:33.560 --> 1:30:35.560 You didn't drink the milk, which is more than a 1:30:35.600 --> 1:30:38.320 spot at the time, it was just a spot milk 1:30:38.720 --> 1:30:39.400 didn't have milk. 1:30:39.760 --> 1:30:42.240 No, we did not drink milk. Come on, I didn't 1:30:42.280 --> 1:30:42.679 win anything. 1:30:42.720 --> 1:30:43.920 Only the winners drink milk. 1:30:45.200 --> 1:30:46.639 You know you want it life. 1:30:47.160 --> 1:30:48.080 The track was pretty cool. 1:30:48.360 --> 1:30:50.519 It is. We went there year after the comment. We 1:30:50.520 --> 1:30:52.600 didn't do the tour or anything. We just kind of 1:30:52.640 --> 1:30:54.559 stopped there on the way to the airport and then we're. 1:30:54.439 --> 1:30:54.840 Like, okay. 1:30:55.479 --> 1:30:58.560 The only drawback was the welcome party was there and 1:30:59.240 --> 1:31:01.559 party was there, so I get two different parties. 1:31:01.600 --> 1:31:02.080 That's cool. 1:31:02.280 --> 1:31:03.280 And you know the tower. 1:31:04.000 --> 1:31:07.960 They set up a ciga BA on the tower up 1:31:07.960 --> 1:31:08.360 in the Indie. 1:31:08.520 --> 1:31:11.200 That's where Fred went with the Monkey MUCKs, the Cubans, 1:31:11.280 --> 1:31:12.160 all the other vps. 1:31:12.479 --> 1:31:13.360 That was I ran into. 1:31:13.560 --> 1:31:15.599 When we were at our welcome party at the Super Bowl, 1:31:15.600 --> 1:31:17.280 I ran into a friend of mine from high school 1:31:17.280 --> 1:31:19.599 who apparently is very rich. But he was there as 1:31:19.640 --> 1:31:21.160 you know, part of one of the season ticket holders, 1:31:21.200 --> 1:31:23.160 and he's walking around with this little box and I'm. 1:31:23.040 --> 1:31:24.880 Like, do you like a cigar? 1:31:25.080 --> 1:31:27.040 And like he's like that, I guess, so you're that 1:31:27.240 --> 1:31:29.080 rich you walk around a party with just your own 1:31:29.120 --> 1:31:30.839 and you just give cubans. 1:31:31.200 --> 1:31:31.560 I don't know. 1:31:31.640 --> 1:31:32.200 He didn't say what. 1:31:32.240 --> 1:31:33.400 I was like, I got to do radio tomorrow. 1:31:33.400 --> 1:31:35.000 I can smoke a scar right now, because I thought, 1:31:35.000 --> 1:31:35.680 you know what, you have. 1:31:35.720 --> 1:31:41.120 To do radio tomorrow. The radio were radio, We're getting 1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:42.040 ready tomorrow. 1:31:42.280 --> 1:31:44.040 But when we were this was at the super Bowl 1:31:44.280 --> 1:31:44.840 welcome party. 1:31:45.120 --> 1:31:47.200 I understand, but you thought you were going to recover 1:31:47.400 --> 1:31:50.760 the next day. Well, you've heard me lose my voice 1:31:50.800 --> 1:31:53.800 before is last week. I don't know if I was sick. 1:31:53.840 --> 1:31:54.719 I just lost my voice. 1:31:54.920 --> 1:31:59.240 I was trying to hear, Okay, you have to drink 1:31:59.280 --> 1:32:00.840 the tea like Bob so yes, so. 1:32:04.439 --> 1:32:05.600 It's cam Newton. 1:32:07.920 --> 1:32:09.400 Town Patriot. 1:32:10.439 --> 1:32:13.799 Scott love you, Bob, We do love Iconic. 1:32:14.000 --> 1:32:17.680 Scott has a little bit of a different opinion about Gonzales. 1:32:18.439 --> 1:32:21.080 He says, until Gonzo proves he can stay healthy and 1:32:21.120 --> 1:32:23.639 play an entire season, he doesn't deserve a new contract 1:32:23.800 --> 1:32:24.559 or an extension. 1:32:24.720 --> 1:32:31.680 Oh, he's played the majority of two seasons, right am? 1:32:31.720 --> 1:32:33.720 I misremembering this? Last year? 1:32:34.200 --> 1:32:36.040 Last year he missed the first three games. Yeah, but 1:32:36.160 --> 1:32:37.880 like that's not like he you know, what did he 1:32:37.920 --> 1:32:38.759 missed the year before? 1:32:39.840 --> 1:32:43.639 Not then Many sixteen, he played within one game this game, 1:32:44.800 --> 1:32:47.200 and he probably would have played if it wasn't a 1:32:47.280 --> 1:32:47.960 meaningless game. 1:32:48.720 --> 1:32:48.920 Yeah. 1:32:49.280 --> 1:32:50.800 The first year, he missed most of the season. 1:32:50.880 --> 1:32:54.040 Yes, Week four he went out the shoulder. But then 1:32:54.160 --> 1:32:57.080 he played the whole next season at a pro bowl level. 1:32:57.240 --> 1:33:02.680 That's what. That's a durability. Absolutely that counts that. The 1:33:02.720 --> 1:33:05.840 guy's gotta you know, take I. I would kind of 1:33:05.880 --> 1:33:10.720 put last year in the not sure how much of 1:33:10.760 --> 1:33:12.920 an injury that was, but you know. 1:33:13.120 --> 1:33:15.200 He was also like, you know, he missed three games 1:33:15.240 --> 1:33:18.360 in September, like he was out. He was there for 1:33:18.520 --> 1:33:19.639 every meaningful game. 1:33:19.520 --> 1:33:21.920 Of the season of them, and I'm going to go, 1:33:22.200 --> 1:33:24.280 you know, back to the literal, like we just look 1:33:24.320 --> 1:33:26.080 at the school board. We don't analyze anything. 1:33:26.240 --> 1:33:28.320 I'm going to say, yeah, he missed three games when 1:33:28.320 --> 1:33:31.280 they went one and two, couldn't do the math good, 1:33:31.520 --> 1:33:32.920 you know, so he's pretty valuable. 1:33:33.400 --> 1:33:38.840 Good, pretty pretty valuable. Trent and silver Lake, thanks again 1:33:38.920 --> 1:33:41.439 for the excellent coverage. Deuce. You might have been tracking 1:33:41.479 --> 1:33:44.720 the wrong article of clothing. This is did you see 1:33:44.760 --> 1:33:50.679 this article that came out about, uh, how pants coaches 1:33:50.760 --> 1:33:52.080 pants affect. 1:33:54.160 --> 1:33:56.040 I felt like he took pants. 1:33:56.400 --> 1:34:00.280 No, But basically, in a nutshell, if the coach comes 1:34:00.280 --> 1:34:02.960 out with rain pants early in the game, rain pants, 1:34:03.400 --> 1:34:05.920 rain pants, you know, or win pants, you know that 1:34:06.080 --> 1:34:09.400 the weather is going to be a factor in the game. 1:34:09.920 --> 1:34:16.240 Okay, yea, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, he says, any analysis 1:34:16.280 --> 1:34:16.439 for that. 1:34:16.680 --> 1:34:21.360 Ryan Paganetti tweeted it out. Over fifteen seasons, Ryan found 1:34:21.439 --> 1:34:24.120 sixty four games where at least one coach wore rain pants. 1:34:24.160 --> 1:34:27.000 The game finished under the over under in forty eight 1:34:27.080 --> 1:34:29.479 of the games. That's seventy five percent of the time. 1:34:29.840 --> 1:34:33.280 Teams averaged fifty fewer passing yards in those rain games. 1:34:33.280 --> 1:34:36.160 It's pretty simple watch the pregame sideline if you see 1:34:36.280 --> 1:34:40.880 rain pants take me under for the passing game and 1:34:41.000 --> 1:34:42.840 overall scoring this. 1:34:43.479 --> 1:34:44.439 Wow, yeah, I. 1:34:46.320 --> 1:34:46.880 Saw the tweet. 1:34:46.880 --> 1:34:48.680 I started getting ice cream headache and I that's in 1:34:48.800 --> 1:34:50.000 depth analysis right there. 1:34:50.400 --> 1:34:54.559 So Ryan Pagnetti just started a Twitter account. He's somebody 1:34:54.640 --> 1:34:59.320 that worked in NFL analytics departments, specifically for the Eagles 1:34:59.360 --> 1:35:02.360 I believe for under Doug Peterson for a long time, 1:35:02.520 --> 1:35:06.240 who were kind of at the forefront of the analytics movement. 1:35:06.360 --> 1:35:07.920 I would say in a lot of ways. 1:35:08.840 --> 1:35:10.920 Evan just answered a lot of questions for me because 1:35:11.160 --> 1:35:13.280 this guy's starting to show up in my timeline, and 1:35:13.640 --> 1:35:15.839 that was my questions, why is this guy in my timeline? 1:35:16.280 --> 1:35:19.200 I actually think, though Paul, that he would be I 1:35:19.280 --> 1:35:21.000 know you don't like guests, but I actually think that 1:35:21.040 --> 1:35:24.200 he'd be a good guess because he did a lot 1:35:24.280 --> 1:35:26.280 of like game situation stuff. 1:35:26.400 --> 1:35:29.240 Yep, you know something very in depth that I would 1:35:29.240 --> 1:35:32.240 love to And I'm dead serious, I wouldn't mind because 1:35:32.760 --> 1:35:33.840 I think it's very easy. 1:35:34.040 --> 1:35:34.719 Well, it's not easy. 1:35:34.800 --> 1:35:38.439 It's a lot of work to compile the in depth stuff. 1:35:38.600 --> 1:35:41.120 He had one that I saw in confirm. He had 1:35:41.160 --> 1:35:44.599 one that I saw that was extremely deep dive into 1:35:44.680 --> 1:35:48.360 the Brady Belichick Patriots in their propensity to run the 1:35:48.400 --> 1:35:50.040 football in the last two minutes. 1:35:49.800 --> 1:35:50.439 Of the first half. 1:35:50.640 --> 1:35:54.000 Yes, that was interested they ran and I don't have 1:35:54.120 --> 1:35:56.120 the numbers off the top of my head, but it 1:35:56.240 --> 1:35:58.439 was something like they run the ball fifty eight percent 1:35:58.479 --> 1:35:59.800 of the time in the last two minutes of the 1:35:59.800 --> 1:36:04.120 first half. The rest of the league was like twenty 1:36:04.160 --> 1:36:06.800 eight percent. Like it was an enormous gap between the two. 1:36:07.200 --> 1:36:10.840 And obviously, you know, what's the outlier of the Patriots 1:36:11.640 --> 1:36:15.680 win at a higher you know, Belichick, Brady, Can I 1:36:15.760 --> 1:36:18.360 get a little context to that, Like, I'm sorry, Like 1:36:19.479 --> 1:36:21.880 in David Andrews, this is probably why I showed up 1:36:21.880 --> 1:36:25.200 because I followed David Andrews said, you know, always end 1:36:25.240 --> 1:36:27.519 the half with the ball like that was, you know, 1:36:27.560 --> 1:36:30.880 obviously one of Bill's mantras, you know, like, yeah, I agree. 1:36:31.880 --> 1:36:34.000 Do you think the Patriots had the luxury of running 1:36:34.000 --> 1:36:35.559 the ball at the end of the first half more 1:36:35.640 --> 1:36:38.080 so than most other teams that played in the NFL 1:36:38.200 --> 1:36:40.960 during the Belichick Brady hey day exactly because they were 1:36:41.000 --> 1:36:42.599 in complete control of the game already. 1:36:42.800 --> 1:36:46.880 Okay, but but I really liked what Andrews followed up with, 1:36:47.080 --> 1:36:50.400 which was they really didn't go into like hurry up 1:36:50.439 --> 1:36:53.240 to minute till about a minute and twenty seconds, so 1:36:53.320 --> 1:36:55.240 they didn't. They made sure they ended the half with 1:36:55.320 --> 1:36:57.360 the ball right, no doubt, so that they because they 1:36:57.400 --> 1:37:01.519 wanted to milk clock before they really went into into 1:37:01.760 --> 1:37:06.080 tempo to move the football quickly. So there was that, 1:37:06.400 --> 1:37:09.360 and then he also Ryan was talking a lot about 1:37:09.360 --> 1:37:12.040 the middle eight and the double score and you know, 1:37:12.120 --> 1:37:14.240 winning the middle eight and things like that. This one 1:37:14.760 --> 1:37:16.479 a lot of credit, which I think, you know, is 1:37:16.720 --> 1:37:19.200 a discussion we've had many times, but it was really cool. 1:37:19.240 --> 1:37:21.880 But what I aways really wanted to I think what 1:37:21.920 --> 1:37:24.280 would be cool about him is that he would go 1:37:24.400 --> 1:37:27.160 into like why they go for two down nine and 1:37:27.280 --> 1:37:29.560 things like that that you can't stand, you know, and like, 1:37:30.920 --> 1:37:34.360 you know, like yeah, because I think it's you know, 1:37:34.680 --> 1:37:37.479 what's good about what Ryan's trying to do is I 1:37:37.560 --> 1:37:41.040 think that the broadcast around the NFL, I don't think 1:37:41.120 --> 1:37:44.160 do a great job of explaining how teams actually are 1:37:44.360 --> 1:37:47.479 using analytics to drive decision making. And I think that 1:37:47.600 --> 1:37:51.640 he is trying to have a smarter take on what 1:37:51.880 --> 1:37:56.320 exactly is going into fourth down decisions and and a game. 1:37:56.479 --> 1:37:58.439 You know, handling of ends of games and ends of 1:37:58.520 --> 1:38:02.280 halfs and things like that, you know, we all find fascinating. 1:38:02.280 --> 1:38:04.680 So I found one that so does every explanation end 1:38:04.720 --> 1:38:05.840 with and then you know what you need. 1:38:07.120 --> 1:38:08.720 Well, that's one that I think we could have a 1:38:08.800 --> 1:38:09.679 conversation about. 1:38:09.840 --> 1:38:12.639 I wouldn't in in all seriousness, I wouldn't mind having 1:38:12.920 --> 1:38:14.680 a guy like that on the show, because I do 1:38:14.840 --> 1:38:18.520 think those kinds of things are interesting, you know, game situations. 1:38:19.200 --> 1:38:22.280 There was one that he actually he really took Rabel 1:38:22.320 --> 1:38:25.160 and Company to task on last year about the end 1:38:25.200 --> 1:38:27.240 of the first half of the Tampa game. We all 1:38:27.280 --> 1:38:30.639 remember they ended up intentionally not scoring on first down 1:38:31.120 --> 1:38:33.720 and then ended up with an incredibly high level of 1:38:33.760 --> 1:38:38.160 difficulty fourth down conversion, unbelievable throw by Drake May, unbelievable 1:38:38.200 --> 1:38:41.160 catch by Stefan Diggs to walk off a touchdown at 1:38:41.200 --> 1:38:43.880 the end of the half, and he kind of mapped 1:38:43.920 --> 1:38:46.719 out why the approach was extremely risky. 1:38:46.880 --> 1:38:48.439 I thought you were talking about the Super Bowl. 1:38:49.120 --> 1:38:52.080 He's also talked about the two point conversion mess up, 1:38:52.120 --> 1:38:56.599 which I was on that livet I bought my wife, 1:38:58.160 --> 1:39:00.200 I bought I brought my wife to tears at out 1:39:00.200 --> 1:39:00.639 one life. 1:39:02.080 --> 1:39:04.360 But the running the ball at the end of the half. 1:39:04.400 --> 1:39:08.880 Another thing the Patriots did, Fred, You'll remember this constantly, 1:39:09.439 --> 1:39:12.280 is they would get the ball in those situations and 1:39:12.360 --> 1:39:14.560 they would spread out like four and five, you know, 1:39:14.800 --> 1:39:21.519 four wide, and run a draw, not necessarily to kill clock. 1:39:22.080 --> 1:39:24.080 But they're looking to get like twelve yards. They're not 1:39:24.160 --> 1:39:26.360 looking for three yards and a cloud of dust. They're 1:39:26.360 --> 1:39:29.120 looking to gash you. They're looking to catch you in 1:39:29.280 --> 1:39:31.960 light personnel with six guys in the box, and they're 1:39:31.960 --> 1:39:33.439 gonna run it at you, and they're gonna get a 1:39:33.560 --> 1:39:36.599 cheap first down to kick start the two minute drill. Again, 1:39:36.680 --> 1:39:39.760 it counts as a run, but it wasn't necessarily a 1:39:39.880 --> 1:39:42.920 kill wig killing clock. That's why, yes, I can put 1:39:42.960 --> 1:39:46.080 all these things here in a column, Like do you 1:39:46.160 --> 1:39:48.920 think if the Cleveland Browns decided in the last two 1:39:49.000 --> 1:39:51.360 minutes of every game during that time to just run 1:39:51.400 --> 1:39:53.000 the ball, they would have won the same amount of 1:39:53.040 --> 1:39:55.320 times as the Patriots did, because when they got the 1:39:55.360 --> 1:39:57.040 ball in the last two minutes of the first half, 1:39:57.040 --> 1:40:00.839 they were down twenty one to three, I'm dead serious, 1:40:01.600 --> 1:40:04.479 were in control so many What was the record when 1:40:04.520 --> 1:40:06.400 winning at halftime under Brady. 1:40:06.320 --> 1:40:08.840 Was they were like they were losing going into the 1:40:08.840 --> 1:40:11.400 fourth quarter. They had a winning record, but like going 1:40:11.479 --> 1:40:12.200 into half time, you. 1:40:14.120 --> 1:40:14.680 Win the game. 1:40:15.160 --> 1:40:16.800 The funniest thing about this to me, though, is that 1:40:16.960 --> 1:40:18.719 I saw this tweet and I'm bummed that I didn't 1:40:18.720 --> 1:40:20.800 bring it up because exactly what you've just been saying 1:40:20.920 --> 1:40:22.519 is exactly what Like the little Paul. 1:40:22.400 --> 1:40:24.120 On my shoulder was going like, oh, do you think 1:40:24.160 --> 1:40:24.599 that might have been? 1:40:24.640 --> 1:40:26.439 Because I had Tom Brady just just. 1:40:28.439 --> 1:40:31.560 But just to be clear, You're right this guy and 1:40:31.680 --> 1:40:33.800 I didn't know him, and I'm glad Evan had a 1:40:33.880 --> 1:40:38.040 background with the guy and knew who he was. Incredible, 1:40:38.400 --> 1:40:43.280 like incredibly detailed, in depth stats pack. I read like 1:40:43.360 --> 1:40:45.360 three different things that he did. I'm sure I missed 1:40:45.360 --> 1:40:48.040 a million others, but I'm not dismissing the tweets. 1:40:48.120 --> 1:40:49.240 It's right up Paul's alley. 1:40:49.320 --> 1:40:51.240 It is right. It's something I'm very interested in. 1:40:51.720 --> 1:40:55.840 I just think that the whether we like it or not, 1:40:56.080 --> 1:40:59.599 or people like it or not, these equations are driving 1:40:59.640 --> 1:41:02.880 decision making in the NFL, just like it's their driving 1:41:02.920 --> 1:41:05.960 decision making in the NBA. In the NFL and the MLB, 1:41:06.160 --> 1:41:09.240 all the other sports, And so if teams are going 1:41:09.320 --> 1:41:11.680 to follow these things and this is how teams are 1:41:11.720 --> 1:41:14.479 going to make decisions, then I'm glad that people like 1:41:14.600 --> 1:41:17.240 Ryan are going to try to explain why they're making 1:41:17.280 --> 1:41:19.080 those decisions, because I don't think the I think the 1:41:19.120 --> 1:41:23.280 broadcasts are completely lost as to like why they're doing 1:41:23.400 --> 1:41:25.479 these things, and they just go, oh, that's what the 1:41:25.560 --> 1:41:28.719 analytics say, you know, and it's just that he's. 1:41:28.600 --> 1:41:31.800 Right about that. That's the crutch. So the analytics say 1:41:31.840 --> 1:41:32.160 to go for. 1:41:32.240 --> 1:41:35.120 It, right, So well, why whether or not you like it, 1:41:35.960 --> 1:41:38.639 if the nerds are the ones that are driving the decisions, 1:41:38.640 --> 1:41:41.160 and at least we should be educated on why they're 1:41:41.439 --> 1:41:42.880 making those decisions. I give it. 1:41:42.960 --> 1:41:44.800 One last thing that I'll tell you the Patriots had 1:41:44.840 --> 1:41:48.519 to have led the history of football in is that 1:41:48.600 --> 1:41:50.599 you run on the play before the two minute warning. 1:41:52.240 --> 1:41:55.080 Like that was a Charlie Weiss staple, like we're going 1:41:55.160 --> 1:41:56.800 to run the ball with two oh six in a 1:41:56.880 --> 1:41:59.240 running clock. We're going to run the ball hit there, yeah, 1:41:59.280 --> 1:42:01.360 because clocks going to stop anyway, and we're going to 1:42:01.400 --> 1:42:03.240 see if we can get a cheap ten yards When 1:42:03.280 --> 1:42:04.400 they're playing pass. 1:42:07.280 --> 1:42:10.760 Off topic Bobby from Squanting them writes. In just a 1:42:10.840 --> 1:42:14.920 quick correction to Tuesday show, Matt said that Misery was 1:42:15.000 --> 1:42:18.760 the name of Kathy Bates' character. That isn't correct. In 1:42:18.880 --> 1:42:21.599 the movie, James Kahn plays an author who was famous 1:42:21.640 --> 1:42:23.479 for a series of books featuring a main. 1:42:23.479 --> 1:42:24.799 Character named Misery. 1:42:24.960 --> 1:42:25.880 That's what said. 1:42:26.160 --> 1:42:28.360 Kathy Bates' character, whose name. 1:42:28.280 --> 1:42:32.240 Is Ann Wills, was the character of the book, right. 1:42:32.640 --> 1:42:34.559 I thought he said it was the name of any. 1:42:34.600 --> 1:42:36.439 I don't think he I mean, maybe he did, but 1:42:36.520 --> 1:42:38.080 I thought he said it was the name of it 1:42:38.920 --> 1:42:42.160 because I said, I said, I think the main character 1:42:42.280 --> 1:42:43.920 in the book was Misery, like that was the book. 1:42:44.240 --> 1:42:47.160 Her name was Misery, And that's what I thought, Matt 1:42:47.280 --> 1:42:49.479 said when he looked it up, he didn't. 1:42:50.200 --> 1:42:52.000 I thought he was referring to Kathy Bates. 1:42:52.720 --> 1:42:55.000 You are correct, Yes, that's what I thought, Matt said. 1:42:55.160 --> 1:42:59.639 Okay, David new Hampshire wants to know about Paul's crush. 1:42:59.720 --> 1:43:02.280 How's Marcus Jones doing in camp? We haven't heard much 1:43:02.320 --> 1:43:02.800 about him. 1:43:02.800 --> 1:43:04.679 Not great, no pick today. 1:43:04.840 --> 1:43:06.840 He did have a and it was a really good 1:43:06.880 --> 1:43:10.240 pick too, But I think tomorrow Douglas has controlled him 1:43:10.479 --> 1:43:15.200 in this camp most most times that they've targeted Douglas 1:43:15.360 --> 1:43:16.920 on Jones, Douglas is won. 1:43:17.760 --> 1:43:20.680 Yeah, I always give like that a little bit of 1:43:22.760 --> 1:43:24.640 of a past just because of how hard it is 1:43:24.760 --> 1:43:29.040 to cover tough job slot receivers and practices where you're 1:43:29.120 --> 1:43:32.519 not trying to hurt not that everybody, anybody's ever trying 1:43:32.520 --> 1:43:33.800 to hurt anybody, but you know what I mean, not 1:43:33.880 --> 1:43:37.920 trying to be physical with the as physical player. So 1:43:38.160 --> 1:43:41.639 like when the little slot receivers running over the middle 1:43:41.640 --> 1:43:43.960 of the field and there's no threat that anybody's going 1:43:44.000 --> 1:43:46.120 to hit them, it's a lot different than in the 1:43:46.200 --> 1:43:48.400 game than when you know you have the same situation. 1:43:48.760 --> 1:43:49.439 And I would agree. 1:43:51.200 --> 1:43:53.439 I wanted to show you how Faia I can be Mike. 1:43:54.760 --> 1:43:57.360 A lot of tomorrow Douglas catches have been shallow crosses 1:43:57.800 --> 1:44:02.519 like what I sort of was critical of and chisholm on. Now, 1:44:04.600 --> 1:44:06.360 that doesn't mean that he hasn't been winning the one 1:44:06.400 --> 1:44:09.280 on one battles, because I think he has. But in fairness, 1:44:09.600 --> 1:44:11.400 he's not like torching him downfield for. 1:44:11.439 --> 1:44:14.400 These huge plays. He's beating him on crossers and evans. 1:44:14.479 --> 1:44:16.439 Right, when you don't have that fear of getting your 1:44:16.479 --> 1:44:18.920 clock cleaned, it's a little easier to complete those. 1:44:19.040 --> 1:44:20.000 I love Marcus Jones. 1:44:20.000 --> 1:44:22.040 I still it's just striking to me his size out 1:44:22.080 --> 1:44:24.080 there and the role that they have him playing in 1:44:24.200 --> 1:44:26.599 the inside, and I mean, he was great last year tackling, 1:44:26.720 --> 1:44:28.880 and I just hope that he can continue to hold 1:44:29.000 --> 1:44:31.800 up because really, I think you ideally like somebody a 1:44:31.840 --> 1:44:34.160 little bit bigger to play as much as you know 1:44:34.280 --> 1:44:35.000 he's going to play. 1:44:35.240 --> 1:44:37.439 I think they like they kind of talked about that 1:44:37.520 --> 1:44:39.560 a little bit when Rabel first got hired, and I 1:44:39.600 --> 1:44:41.920 think he's just such a good player that they just 1:44:42.080 --> 1:44:44.240 kind of were like, Nope, we're going to make this 1:44:44.439 --> 1:44:47.360 work because that's the player we have, and he's really 1:44:47.439 --> 1:44:50.479 really good. Because I think when they first hired Vrabel, 1:44:50.520 --> 1:44:52.880 there was a lot of talk about is Marcus Jones 1:44:52.920 --> 1:44:55.320 really a fit because of his size, and then he 1:44:55.479 --> 1:44:57.280 just played so well that it kind of. 1:44:57.720 --> 1:44:59.240 Because he is Rabel's style. 1:44:59.280 --> 1:45:01.400 He might not be the prototype in terms of size, 1:45:01.439 --> 1:45:04.040 but the way he plays the run, in his physical 1:45:04.080 --> 1:45:05.320 at the point of attack. 1:45:05.120 --> 1:45:09.240 Like good football player, freaking hit Madison Peers, I'd say 1:45:09.280 --> 1:45:09.720 pretty good. 1:45:10.120 --> 1:45:12.840 Gumby is from Germany on the line. What's up, Gumby, 1:45:15.240 --> 1:45:16.679 how's it going good? 1:45:17.080 --> 1:45:19.680 First time I've ever listened live and been able to call, 1:45:19.800 --> 1:45:24.080 so I appreciate y'all if I can. I wanted to 1:45:24.240 --> 1:45:26.360 ask a questions about Campbell and Wilson going back to 1:45:26.439 --> 1:45:28.479 the Super Bowl, but I want to give you too 1:45:28.600 --> 1:45:35.120 quick hits out first, first to shout out to ianpats 1:45:35.160 --> 1:45:37.679 fans dot com best message board on the planet. 1:45:37.840 --> 1:45:38.240 I agree. 1:45:39.479 --> 1:45:43.720 And then Fred, your understanding of thermodynamics is a little bit. 1:45:43.720 --> 1:45:48.519 Off my understanding of thermo dynamics. I don't understand thermo dynamics, so. 1:45:48.760 --> 1:45:51.200 I think you might have been talking about your straw theory. 1:45:51.600 --> 1:45:54.719 Oh straw so not to be confused with string theory, 1:45:55.520 --> 1:45:56.000 so you don't. 1:45:56.520 --> 1:45:58.240 Okay, Well it works, it works for me. 1:45:59.280 --> 1:45:59.439 You know. 1:46:01.640 --> 1:46:05.360 Well, I think with the small volume size of a cup, 1:46:05.400 --> 1:46:08.559 it really doesn't matter much. But technically it's colder at 1:46:08.560 --> 1:46:08.920 the bottom. 1:46:10.000 --> 1:46:13.760 Well I know that cold, you know, heat rises, cold 1:46:13.800 --> 1:46:16.080 goes down. But when the top of the glass is 1:46:16.160 --> 1:46:20.400 full of ice, I think thermo dynamics kind of doesn't 1:46:20.439 --> 1:46:21.240 come into play there. 1:46:21.280 --> 1:46:23.000 I will say that drinking out of the straw makes 1:46:23.040 --> 1:46:26.840 you drink faster. Yeah, that I would agree with you on. Yeah, 1:46:27.680 --> 1:46:29.160 that's why I don't drink out of the straw. 1:46:30.360 --> 1:46:34.320 Okay, So my real question was, We've had a lot 1:46:34.400 --> 1:46:36.639 of talk and a lot of postings on boards about 1:46:36.680 --> 1:46:39.200 Campbell and Wilson's being hurt back in the Super Bowl, 1:46:40.760 --> 1:46:43.240 but nobody ever talks about the thing that I think 1:46:43.320 --> 1:46:45.840 is fifty percent of the problem back then was the 1:46:45.960 --> 1:46:51.599 rookie wall. Seventeen games plus all the the playoff games. 1:46:52.439 --> 1:46:56.760 I think they were just wore out. And so your 1:46:56.840 --> 1:47:00.200 thoughts on that, and then thoughts on who's the we 1:47:00.280 --> 1:47:03.719 need to pay attention to visit akis in this season? 1:47:04.120 --> 1:47:06.040 What rookies this year do we need to watch out 1:47:06.080 --> 1:47:06.800 for the rookie wall? 1:47:07.400 --> 1:47:10.800 For the rookie wall? Many of them this year enough, 1:47:11.280 --> 1:47:11.400 you know. 1:47:12.040 --> 1:47:13.880 And I don't think it was a huge deal for 1:47:13.960 --> 1:47:16.960 those two linemen because they missed games. They you know, 1:47:17.600 --> 1:47:21.000 Campbell missed four games heading into the playoffs, so he 1:47:21.080 --> 1:47:24.160 should have been a little bit fresher. I think physically, 1:47:24.280 --> 1:47:25.840 I think the knee was a problem for him, but 1:47:25.880 --> 1:47:27.679 I don't necessarily think he was tired. 1:47:27.800 --> 1:47:30.320 And Wilson I think, I think, right, but he was 1:47:30.360 --> 1:47:32.040 healthy going to the playoffs, right. 1:47:32.000 --> 1:47:34.439 Yeah, No, Wilson was healthy. I think with Wilson, I. 1:47:34.439 --> 1:47:36.840 Don't think Wilson was an injury issue in the Super Bowl. 1:47:36.840 --> 1:47:39.680 Now Wilson, I think it was more maybe playing out 1:47:39.720 --> 1:47:42.320 a position, and they're hoping that him playing center is 1:47:42.560 --> 1:47:46.280 is gonna make him a better player. I've been really 1:47:46.840 --> 1:47:49.400 excited about what I've seen out of Campbell, but you know, 1:47:49.479 --> 1:47:52.479 I put the caveat of the edge rushers he's facing 1:47:52.560 --> 1:47:54.919 in practice. I think he's going to face better competition 1:47:55.040 --> 1:47:59.560 on other teams. But I've been really excited about I 1:47:59.640 --> 1:48:02.360 feel like he has more variety in his past set, 1:48:02.560 --> 1:48:05.000 so he's not as predictable. And so something I was 1:48:05.080 --> 1:48:08.400 talking to Brandon Swinson was talking after practice, and I 1:48:08.400 --> 1:48:10.280 asked him about Caleb Blomo, and he said, you know, 1:48:10.360 --> 1:48:12.920 in college, like you kind of see a lot of 1:48:13.000 --> 1:48:16.920 the same things, like guys don't have like deep toolboxes 1:48:17.240 --> 1:48:19.200 in like different things. And then you get to the 1:48:19.280 --> 1:48:22.000 pros and like every pass rusher has like three or 1:48:22.040 --> 1:48:24.120 four really good moves instead of like one or two 1:48:24.240 --> 1:48:27.080 really good moves. And I think with Campbell, I've seen 1:48:27.160 --> 1:48:29.920 him be more aggressive. I've seen him close down space 1:48:30.040 --> 1:48:32.120 between him and rushers. I've seen him get his hands 1:48:32.160 --> 1:48:35.200 on guys faster, and then also still vertical set, but 1:48:35.320 --> 1:48:38.280 at least have other change ups within his arsenal. So 1:48:38.360 --> 1:48:41.040 I think he's definitely was working this offseason. I hope 1:48:41.040 --> 1:48:43.280 whatever held him out of practice today is And. 1:48:43.400 --> 1:48:48.120 What's the super weare that he was at Lane Johnson's 1:48:48.439 --> 1:48:52.840 place and the world's Strongest man was there and you know, 1:48:53.000 --> 1:48:55.760 kind of insinuating maybe he did some special work to 1:48:55.880 --> 1:48:56.719 gain some strength. 1:48:57.000 --> 1:48:59.320 Yeah, so he said with the world's strongest man thing 1:48:59.400 --> 1:49:01.680 that they just were out like it wasn't anything like 1:49:01.800 --> 1:49:04.560 he he kind of downplayed that, but he was with 1:49:04.680 --> 1:49:08.519 Lane Johnson, Tristan Wharfs and Dion Dawkins, uh and you know, 1:49:08.560 --> 1:49:11.160 probably three of the best five tackles in the sport, 1:49:11.640 --> 1:49:15.200 and they they were just talking, talking ball and training 1:49:15.280 --> 1:49:19.000 and stuff like that. And hopefully that how that came about. 1:49:19.560 --> 1:49:22.040 I think that Lane Johnson reached out to him. 1:49:22.160 --> 1:49:26.439 Oh so this is another thing that you like, Lane Johnson. 1:49:26.560 --> 1:49:27.599 Now we're having fun. 1:49:27.720 --> 1:49:29.720 So this is another thing that I would say that's 1:49:29.840 --> 1:49:32.200 like probably just a me thing because it's the offensive line. 1:49:32.280 --> 1:49:35.400 But so many of the people in the offensive line 1:49:35.479 --> 1:49:41.360 community have said, like, can't like give him him to me? 1:49:41.680 --> 1:49:44.560 You know, like so many guys think that they like 1:49:44.720 --> 1:49:47.800 feel like there's ways to get him better than what 1:49:47.960 --> 1:49:51.080 he played in the playoffs beyond just the injury. Uh, 1:49:51.240 --> 1:49:55.280 you know, whether it was Lane Johnson or Tron Armstead 1:49:55.439 --> 1:49:58.280 or whoever. Like the old line community kind of said, 1:49:58.400 --> 1:50:02.160 like rallied around him after that playoff performance and was like, no, 1:50:02.520 --> 1:50:05.080 like he's got things that he can work on that 1:50:05.320 --> 1:50:07.960 if he gets better at with his technique, that he's 1:50:08.000 --> 1:50:10.360 going to be just fine. And that gave me a 1:50:10.439 --> 1:50:12.840 lot of like confidence that I think, you know, maybe 1:50:12.880 --> 1:50:18.000 this can be rectified from what he was in the Playoffsky. 1:50:17.680 --> 1:50:21.280 All right, And I don't know if we we mentioned 1:50:21.320 --> 1:50:23.320 I know we did in our podcast to wrap up 1:50:23.520 --> 1:50:25.800 today's camp practice, but on this show if we talked 1:50:25.800 --> 1:50:28.880 about with Evan just sort of mentioned there that Will 1:50:28.920 --> 1:50:31.240 Campbell didn't take part in any of the teamwork today. 1:50:31.920 --> 1:50:34.960 He had a brace on his left elbow, did a 1:50:35.000 --> 1:50:38.200 lot of running conditioning on the side on the left field, 1:50:38.280 --> 1:50:40.080 while all the sort of work with the eleven on 1:50:40.160 --> 1:50:43.240 eleven's was going on the right side, and Marcus Bryant 1:50:43.600 --> 1:50:44.519 played left tackle. 1:50:44.840 --> 1:50:48.080 Lomu stayed at right tackle with the twos, which which 1:50:48.120 --> 1:50:50.519 I found surprising. Has been scanning Twitter a little bit 1:50:50.560 --> 1:50:52.360 and a lot of people are like, kind. 1:50:52.200 --> 1:50:54.080 Of a lot of people have raised eyebrow. 1:50:54.560 --> 1:50:57.000 We have already started. I had noticed that as well. Yeah, 1:50:57.120 --> 1:50:58.519 I knew that that might be something. 1:50:58.600 --> 1:51:00.559 And then that's why I think it was the right 1:51:00.640 --> 1:51:03.160 move by the coaches to do what they did, because 1:51:03.160 --> 1:51:04.120 I think if they had put. 1:51:04.080 --> 1:51:07.320 Lomu at left tackle, it'd be even bigger. 1:51:07.760 --> 1:51:11.360 Yeah, Wally Pip, Well, I mean, like, I just I 1:51:11.400 --> 1:51:14.120 think my point of view is just that they don't 1:51:14.160 --> 1:51:15.800 want to overwhelm him right now, and the high level 1:51:15.840 --> 1:51:17.479 reps are going on the right side, and you want 1:51:17.520 --> 1:51:19.880 to get Lomu ready because he's going to have to 1:51:19.960 --> 1:51:22.479 probably play some right tackle and some jumbo tight end. 1:51:22.760 --> 1:51:24.439 And if we start giving him high level reps with 1:51:24.479 --> 1:51:27.720 the ones too, now you're overloading this kid's plate. Who Like, 1:51:27.840 --> 1:51:29.519 let's be honest, he's got a lot of work to do. 1:51:29.680 --> 1:51:32.000 Like he's you know, he's he's a work in progress. 1:51:32.040 --> 1:51:34.200 He's young, he's a little bit of a ball of clay. 1:51:34.920 --> 1:51:36.599 So I you know, it's just one of those things 1:51:36.640 --> 1:51:38.000 where like all of a sudden, you're like, oh, people 1:51:38.000 --> 1:51:39.679 are mad about this, Like I don't really I don't. 1:51:39.479 --> 1:51:40.840 Know if they're mad about it, but I think it 1:51:41.000 --> 1:51:44.280 is interesting that Marcus Bryant got the reps over him. 1:51:44.760 --> 1:51:47.880 There was no Campbell. I mean, you think the first 1:51:48.000 --> 1:51:50.560 round pick guy you just drafted twenty eighth overall to 1:51:50.560 --> 1:51:51.120 play tackle. 1:51:51.160 --> 1:51:52.640 But I think you guys are on it. 1:51:53.560 --> 1:51:54.880 Disrupt the learning curve. 1:51:55.160 --> 1:51:57.479 Yeah, he has to learn the right side right, not 1:51:57.600 --> 1:51:58.559 the left side, and he's. 1:51:58.400 --> 1:52:01.160 Still getting some low level left tackle reps right right, 1:52:01.280 --> 1:52:02.240 But keep sharp. 1:52:02.600 --> 1:52:05.080 No, I think you're right. I just I understand why 1:52:05.160 --> 1:52:08.000 people reacted that way. I would also hope that they 1:52:08.040 --> 1:52:10.559 could parse like I think Campbell has been really really 1:52:10.600 --> 1:52:13.760 good all summer and like to think that just one 1:52:13.880 --> 1:52:16.080 practice because Campbell was hurt. You know me, I don't 1:52:16.120 --> 1:52:18.960 watch like I think. I would like to think that 1:52:19.320 --> 1:52:21.639 the scribes would be able to be like, this isn't 1:52:21.720 --> 1:52:23.960 like a competition all of a sudden because Campbell is 1:52:24.040 --> 1:52:26.840 banged up, Because there's no doubt that Campbell has been 1:52:26.880 --> 1:52:29.560 better than Lomu in this in this can so I 1:52:29.960 --> 1:52:33.160 don't think. Yeah, I don't know how you would get 1:52:33.160 --> 1:52:34.920 to that. I think that's that's a big leap. 1:52:35.240 --> 1:52:37.400 Yeah, I caught one rep I think against Akis with 1:52:37.560 --> 1:52:39.320 Lomu today. V I don't know if you were locked 1:52:39.360 --> 1:52:41.519 on them, but it looked Lomo was all over the place. 1:52:41.920 --> 1:52:45.040 I thought Lomu controlled him on back to back place 1:52:45.120 --> 1:52:47.200 today and I was like, oh, okay, I see it. 1:52:47.360 --> 1:52:48.840 I see the first round, like why do you put 1:52:48.920 --> 1:52:49.720 him on the ground, And the. 1:52:49.760 --> 1:52:52.200 Next play he just locked him on team period. Yeah, 1:52:52.280 --> 1:52:54.679 both in both in team he got him with toos 1:52:54.920 --> 1:52:55.479 with the twos. 1:52:55.680 --> 1:52:58.679 Yeah, Acus got him with the ghosts the speed rush 1:52:58.760 --> 1:53:01.880 on early on in practice and then as really got 1:53:01.960 --> 1:53:04.559 Demetrius crown over on the pick that DeVito through at 1:53:04.680 --> 1:53:06.680 in the two minute at the end, he was right 1:53:06.720 --> 1:53:08.240 in his face. But I think him and love MoU 1:53:08.320 --> 1:53:10.360 have had some pretty good back and forth as you 1:53:10.360 --> 1:53:10.960 would expect. 1:53:11.040 --> 1:53:16.880 You know, Eldred's in North Carolina. What's up Eldred? Right? Hey? 1:53:18.080 --> 1:53:18.760 Back on the road. 1:53:19.800 --> 1:53:22.760 Oh yeah, back into them in my element again. Hey, 1:53:22.880 --> 1:53:25.800 I got a question. I listened to Tuesday show and 1:53:26.640 --> 1:53:30.200 everybody was like down on Kyle William and I just 1:53:30.280 --> 1:53:34.000 got one question. Okay, and Evan, don't get too mad 1:53:34.080 --> 1:53:37.200 at me. Mad when after your boy? Going after your 1:53:37.240 --> 1:53:41.960 boy could have problem beat Drake mate like not judging 1:53:42.000 --> 1:53:44.160 to speak because he ain't that much to work with him, 1:53:44.439 --> 1:53:46.920 but with coming DeVito and with anybody else getting him, 1:53:46.920 --> 1:53:49.760 and he's burning people. You know, Could it be Drake? 1:53:49.840 --> 1:53:52.360 You just ain't comfortable with him yet, like he like 1:53:52.479 --> 1:53:53.240 he ain't with Dobbs. 1:53:54.600 --> 1:53:58.200 Maybe. I mean, I've seen them both uh deep passes. 1:53:59.240 --> 1:54:01.840 I think I'm just trying to give Kyle Williams some 1:54:01.960 --> 1:54:04.000 grace because I know he's, you know, a guy that 1:54:04.120 --> 1:54:07.400 we're all hoping is gonna emerge at some point. I 1:54:07.479 --> 1:54:11.439 think all I think both quarterbacks have have underthrown him 1:54:11.439 --> 1:54:14.400 at times. I don't think it was just isolated to Drake. 1:54:16.160 --> 1:54:18.080 Well okay, but mostly most of the camp I've been 1:54:18.120 --> 1:54:20.960 here and they saying, you know, he's scheduled dubdo you know? 1:54:21.640 --> 1:54:23.640 And then that one that Pettis stepped in front of 1:54:24.240 --> 1:54:26.559 like three yards short, and he was in front him 1:54:26.600 --> 1:54:30.160 by three yards even though Gunnard whatever his name is, 1:54:30.680 --> 1:54:32.680 he mentioned that too. So I'm like, well, maybe just 1:54:33.480 --> 1:54:36.080 under inestimating speed or whatever. You just ain't used to 1:54:36.200 --> 1:54:38.480 him yet. But I'm pretty sure they get on the 1:54:38.520 --> 1:54:39.200 same pace. 1:54:39.000 --> 1:54:39.520 Soon or later. 1:54:39.920 --> 1:54:43.000 And I'm still saying fourteen and three, okay, Gonna. 1:54:42.800 --> 1:54:43.200 Stick with that. 1:54:43.600 --> 1:54:47.840 Fourteen three says Aldred, all right, all right, thanks for 1:54:47.920 --> 1:54:50.960 the call. Uh. Speaking of predictions, James Petti Grew, the 1:54:51.000 --> 1:54:53.440 most interesting Patriots fan of the world, says, I'm personally 1:54:53.600 --> 1:54:56.600 very high on Dobbs the reason no one else is, 1:54:56.680 --> 1:54:58.760 and I want to appear as a ball nowhere to 1:54:58.960 --> 1:55:01.200 lead the Patriots and touch shows this season book it 1:55:01.360 --> 1:55:04.680 Mark tape. Yeah, I mean, I think he's just being starcastic. 1:55:04.880 --> 1:55:06.600 I mean I get I get what the guys are 1:55:06.680 --> 1:55:09.720 talking about. I also think that like the place I 1:55:09.760 --> 1:55:11.600 feel okay about him is like in the red zones. 1:55:11.600 --> 1:55:13.240 I think he's got hands and there's not really a 1:55:13.280 --> 1:55:15.080 lot of space where he's got to get away from people, 1:55:15.160 --> 1:55:16.920 Like you know, I think those are some of the 1:55:16.960 --> 1:55:18.560 plays that have stood out to me, or just him 1:55:18.600 --> 1:55:21.440 making grabs in the end zone. But I agree with 1:55:21.520 --> 1:55:23.960 the middle of the field take with the guys that 1:55:24.320 --> 1:55:27.160 you know, it's just he's just not a smooth, easy athlete. 1:55:27.160 --> 1:55:29.800 And that doesn't mean he can't be good. But sometimes 1:55:29.840 --> 1:55:31.160 you get these guys and I feel like you're like, 1:55:31.200 --> 1:55:33.200 we're gonna have to wait to see games with this guy, 1:55:33.240 --> 1:55:34.720 and that's kind of where we're headed with him. 1:55:34.720 --> 1:55:36.280 But I think him a four year deal. 1:55:36.560 --> 1:55:37.920 You know, I would think that there's gonna be a 1:55:37.960 --> 1:55:40.440 little bit of a you know, a landing, you know, 1:55:40.600 --> 1:55:42.520 pad for him to get things together. 1:55:42.600 --> 1:55:45.320 I don't think he's you know, it might take some time. 1:55:45.560 --> 1:55:49.800 I think he's just different. He just moves different than Diggs, 1:55:50.240 --> 1:55:54.040 significantly different. Yeah, and so like he's more I think 1:55:54.160 --> 1:55:58.320 Dobbs is more of like a traditional route runner where 1:55:58.360 --> 1:56:01.680 it's like more linear and and digs. It was just 1:56:01.800 --> 1:56:04.840 like very unique in the way that he ran routes. 1:56:04.880 --> 1:56:06.640 It kind of reminded me of Edelman a lot, like 1:56:06.760 --> 1:56:09.320 those two guys, just like the way they stem guys, 1:56:09.360 --> 1:56:11.320 the way that they set up defensive backs, the way 1:56:11.680 --> 1:56:14.480 they kind of just like color outside the lines but 1:56:14.600 --> 1:56:16.600 inside the lines. Like it's just a different type of 1:56:16.880 --> 1:56:20.040 route running. And Dobbs I think is more of like 1:56:20.160 --> 1:56:25.040 a typical traditional receiver, so it maybe is less like 1:56:25.480 --> 1:56:28.080 about him and more you know, I think the role 1:56:28.200 --> 1:56:29.720 is going to be a little bit different than what 1:56:30.000 --> 1:56:32.440 you envision with Diggs because of that, Like if you're 1:56:32.440 --> 1:56:34.880 gonna put him inside the formation and kind of just 1:56:35.000 --> 1:56:37.440 expect him to survey and just kind of get open 1:56:37.480 --> 1:56:39.000 in the middle of the field on his own, I 1:56:39.080 --> 1:56:42.160 don't know if he's really that kind of kind of player. 1:56:42.640 --> 1:56:45.480 All Right, we'll end the show with a question. Brendon 1:56:45.560 --> 1:56:48.560 wants to know how close Landry is to coming back. 1:56:48.640 --> 1:56:51.720 Badard said he was visibly favoring his left leg today. 1:56:52.000 --> 1:56:55.800 He was watching and Rabel did mention that as guys 1:56:55.880 --> 1:57:01.200 get closer, he has them watch practice. So Accus started 1:57:01.240 --> 1:57:03.640 watching practice and then all of a sudden was back. 1:57:04.200 --> 1:57:06.080 So maybe a good sign that he's at least up 1:57:06.080 --> 1:57:06.680 there watching. 1:57:07.160 --> 1:57:08.480 I mean, I've seen him a little bit on the 1:57:08.520 --> 1:57:12.000 lower hill, and he doesn't I haven't noticed a noticeable limp. 1:57:12.040 --> 1:57:12.640 I haven't seen that. 1:57:13.000 --> 1:57:15.480 I'm not a big limp person, Like, I'm not good 1:57:15.480 --> 1:57:16.440 at that. I don't want to. 1:57:16.520 --> 1:57:18.280 Teach a wise thing, right, like they all kind of 1:57:18.360 --> 1:57:19.480 walk weird sometimes. 1:57:19.560 --> 1:57:22.360 I don't want to like be the guy that's trying 1:57:22.400 --> 1:57:25.280 to judge people's gates and limps and stuff, because I 1:57:25.320 --> 1:57:26.680 don't know. I'm not a doctor, like. 1:57:26.840 --> 1:57:28.600 I mean, I just I don't think they be. I 1:57:28.640 --> 1:57:30.040 don't know if you're still limping, I don't know if 1:57:30.080 --> 1:57:31.480 you should be on the field working out. 1:57:31.520 --> 1:57:34.600 But okay, was he working out? 1:57:34.920 --> 1:57:36.560 I mean they just, you know, the lower field guys 1:57:36.600 --> 1:57:39.400 go through drills and you know it's I mean, nothing extensive, 1:57:39.440 --> 1:57:40.480 but more. 1:57:40.560 --> 1:57:44.200 I'm more like, what's going on with Carlon Davis, Like 1:57:44.320 --> 1:57:47.680 tomorrow morning we talked to Rabel. I'm more hopefully one 1:57:47.720 --> 1:57:50.160 of the Jay's like kind of is like goose is 1:57:50.200 --> 1:57:51.680 them a little bit? Is this going to be all right? 1:57:52.200 --> 1:57:52.840 Full week here? 1:57:53.200 --> 1:57:53.400 Yeah? 1:57:53.720 --> 1:57:56.040 Seven that's seven practices that he's missed. 1:57:56.680 --> 1:57:58.520 It's like Gonzalez last year. It was like, you know, 1:57:58.760 --> 1:58:02.440 Pats came on and cornerback went out. All right, that's 1:58:02.480 --> 1:58:06.320 gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. They 1:58:06.400 --> 1:58:09.920 have a Blue White scrimmage tomorrow right, which I don't 1:58:09.960 --> 1:58:12.200 know if that's gonna be full pads or not, but 1:58:13.400 --> 1:58:15.360 we'll have in from on that on Patriots dot com 1:58:15.480 --> 1:58:18.840 at Patriots Social uh. And then next week reminder the 1:58:18.920 --> 1:58:22.440 cults are in town. We'll have the joint practice on Tuesday. 1:58:22.800 --> 1:58:26.160 We'll be live for that. What time does that start? 1:58:26.320 --> 1:58:27.400 Do we know? I think it's. 1:58:29.360 --> 1:58:31.200 I believe so we want to start at ten. 1:58:31.320 --> 1:58:35.120 Yeah, we'll start at ten on Tuesday. And then first 1:58:35.200 --> 1:58:39.520 preseason game. Paul's in the Bob's Discount Furniture Studio. So 1:58:39.680 --> 1:58:40.840 that's Thursday night. 1:58:41.080 --> 1:58:42.960 In the new next week and the new look pre 1:58:43.080 --> 1:58:46.600 postgame show a special new panelist style. 1:58:47.000 --> 1:58:49.200 Don't want to give it away yet just yet, but 1:58:49.680 --> 1:58:52.120 you might want to tune in for that pregame show. 1:58:52.560 --> 1:58:55.000 All right, we will talk to you. We'll see you 1:58:55.080 --> 1:59:00.760 next Tuesday. Hey, this is deuced. 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