1 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Helth. All Right, 2 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: we've made it to midweek here on One Bill's Live, 3 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we're still discussing 4 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo's twenty twenty five draft class. Will get into the 5 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: details of our topic of discussion in just a second, 6 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: but we are excited that in the second hour of 7 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: the show, we are going to be talking to the 8 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: head coach at Arkansas, Sam Pittman, about one Landon jack 9 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: Buffalo's third round draft choice a little bit later on 10 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: the show, So that's coming up an hour number two, 11 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: so be sure to stay tuned for that as we 12 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: get the ins and outs on the college career that 13 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: land and Jackson put together to catapult him to the 14 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: NFL as a third round draft choice. We look forward 15 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: to that conversation. But here we are midweek, and I 16 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: will say, Steve, I've got some work to do in 17 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: my backyard, and you were kind enough to help me 18 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: with that because you are lending me your gas powered chainsaw. 19 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: I have to say, listen, I am not responsible for 20 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: the misuse of. 21 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: Seas that's right. Yeah, Oh no, I already signed the 22 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: liability waiver that you gave me with. 23 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: Your I don't want to hear about it, so just 24 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: be careful. 25 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got some evergreen trees that are unfortunately succumbing 26 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: to needle casts. 27 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: Were outside lou spruce tree doing stuff last night. I 28 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: was outside doing stuff. 29 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: I was outside. You know what I was doing. I 30 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: was I was keeping it simple yesterday. I was just 31 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: putting down some grass seed and some beare patches or 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: my lawn and stuff. And I was happy that it 33 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: rained a little bit last night. That's always a good thing. 34 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: And you want to get the seed down early because 35 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: once it gets too hot, yeah, like it doesn't grow. 36 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it stops raining too. After a while. I was 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: outside clearing the lawn for so I can get my 38 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: more out. Yeah, And of course then it rained like 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: nine inches last night. 40 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you were in the you were in the 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: danger zone yesterday with that severe weather warning. 42 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: Yes, so we got Yeah, so I won't be mowing 43 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: my lawn for a minute. But yeah, I was getting 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: that already. 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: Okay. 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: You know, it's just just that time of year and 47 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: every I may say this, the leaves start to come 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 2: out now, but until they get fully everything looks horrible. 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, half of it. It still looks terrible. Oh my gosh. 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: You need the yeah, you need the buds to fall 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: off the trees and the leaves you start coming and looks. 52 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: It's so bad. It looks post apocalyptic, you know. I 53 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: mean it looks awful, like everything's dead, and you know, 54 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: now it's starting a couple of I can't believe it though, 55 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: and people know this, depending on what variety of tree 56 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: it is. And I can't land scaping. You get all 57 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: these exotics. You're not exietly yeah, flowering, Yeah, the stuff 58 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: that you that doesn't grow naturally or whatever. And man, 59 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: some of those pop quick. We have a couple of 60 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: them that, yeah, they go early. 61 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then by the time you get to Mother's 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: Day all the blooms off the trees. 63 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: They look dead one day and one of them had 64 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: buds the next and fully leaved yesterday. It was unbelievable. 65 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think the seventy seven degree day yesterday and. 66 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: Then everything's pop over the weekend. 67 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: There was a hot day, a warmer day too. 68 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: I'll sell you what though. I And that's one of 69 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: the things I've always talked about. When you get to 70 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: a certain time of year and we all we all know, 71 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: you know, the locals know this. It's not just the 72 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: leaves pop out and you get a day here and 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: a day there. That's great. Now, I think we are 74 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: the people. 75 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: The people pop out. Yeah, I just said, yesterday we bloom. 76 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, look, I said, it looks like 77 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: we're all out of hibernation. 78 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm total about talking. I know, you drive, you 79 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: drive in the village. Yeah, exactly. The people bloom as 80 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: much as the foliage does. Right, I mean, that's there 81 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: about it. 82 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: Are right about that? 83 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: You don't really you kind of forget because we're all 84 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: i mean, let's face it, we're living life with our 85 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: heads down for like six months here. 86 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like this, the hood pulled over. 87 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: Then when it brightens up, you kind of you put 88 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: your shoulders back and you you. 89 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: Look like that and walk like that bear coming out 90 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: of the den under the log exactly. 91 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was. It's one of those kind of 92 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: kind of it's going to be that kind of weekend, 93 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: I think. So I don't know how what the weather's 94 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: going to be, like, I mean, you look, but. 95 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: Man, oh man, let me be a little wet. 96 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think it's really cool that 97 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: the leaves pop out, and so do the people. 98 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: Right, So kind of looking forward to a more consistent 99 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: warm up. We're still on a little bit of a 100 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: roller coaster here between the fifties and the seventies, but 101 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: we'll get there eventually. 102 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 103 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: We do have some Bills notes to pass along to you, 104 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: as well as getting to around the NFL, which we 105 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: will do in short order. Here First and foremost, the 106 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Bills news. It's official Bill's Rookie Mini Camp will be 107 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: held for two days from May ninth to the tenth. 108 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: Here at one Bill's Drive. Typically a rookie mini camp 109 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: goes three days, but the Bills, along with seven other clubs, 110 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: are only doing a two day rookie mini camp. I 111 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: imagine that coach mcdermal will be asked why that is 112 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: the case by the media during media availability. But among 113 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: the teams doing just a two day rookie mini camp, 114 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champion Eagles Cincinnati Steve one day rookie 115 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: mini camp. Talk about in and out. 116 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: Wow, come on me me, Yeah, okay, don't. 117 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: I always felt, at least listening to the coaches feedback, 118 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: that they valued the rookie mini camp because it's the 119 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: opportunity for them to get a lot of one on 120 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: one instruction with the rookies. Once you are into OTAs 121 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: and you've got the full roster here, a lot of 122 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: that goes away. You just don't have time to do 123 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: it during the practice this session. But during rookie mini 124 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: camp they had there's more individual hands on training. 125 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: Six picks for the Bengals, three in an offense, three 126 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: on defense, a defensive end, a linebacker, two linebackers, and 127 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: then two guards and a running back. That's their draft class, 128 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: so plus all the rookie free agentc that they'll have 129 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: in and in and around camp. So yeah, okay, two D. 130 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: They do have one of the smallest draft classes. I 131 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: will say that with only six picks. I think Minnesota 132 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: was the other. They got Chamar Stewart. 133 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: To me, the only name that people really recognize is 134 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: that guy is Shamar Stewart. They got the defensive end 135 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: out of Texas. 136 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: A and Falcons only had five picks too because they 137 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: had that big trade up for James Pierce. 138 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: Even the Vikings, who only started with four picks, took five. 139 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's some small draft classes out there. So 140 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: I get some of that thinking. But yeah, still it's like, 141 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: how much are you getting done them one day? Like 142 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: they come in. 143 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: I mean, well they're obviously not doing any it's not 144 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 2: like a football thing thing. I mean, it's more of 145 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: an acclamation thing, right, I mean they're. 146 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I got to believe there's some classroom work 147 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: with regards to scheme and stuff like that. But for 148 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: be it for me to decide what's best. 149 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: Everybody, most of the other teams had had five, had 150 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: the normal amount that three day Rams had six, six 151 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: guys drafted Falcons five. 152 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I was curious to see 153 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: the differences there. It's traditionally been a three day session 154 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: with the rookies. 155 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, back in the old school. Guys, man, they get 156 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: their hands on these yet they're there. If it was 157 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: a three day minutes, they're in the building seventy two hours. Yeah, 158 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: you know, back in the old and they're two days. 159 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: You know, if they would let them, they'd do it 160 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: back in the old school. Now it's all sports science 161 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: and acclamation and mental health and all this other stuff. 162 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: They're probably better for it. But yeah, you know, it 163 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: seems like what's the point. 164 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, football wise, it's interesting, to say the least. Let's 165 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: go around the NFL, presented by Kaleida Healthy, official healthcare 166 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: system of the Buffalo Bills and the NFL has confirmed 167 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: that the Falcons have been fined two hundred and fifty 168 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: thousand dollars and defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrick fined one hundred 169 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: K for failing to prevent the disclosure of confidential information 170 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: distributed to the club in advance of the NFL Draft. 171 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: His college aged son Ulbrich was directly involved in prank 172 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: calling Shador Sanders during the draft and posing as an 173 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: NFL club set to pick him. Ulbrich's son, Jacks, took 174 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: the number from Ulbrich's iPad and used it to prank 175 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: Sanders during the draft. Jacks has since apologized. The Falcons 176 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: statement reads as follows. We appreciated the NFL's swift and 177 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: thorough review of last week's data exposure and the event 178 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: that transpired due to it. We were proactive in addressing 179 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: the situation internally, cooperated fully with the league throughout the process, 180 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: and accept the discipline levied to coach Olbrick and the organization. 181 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: We're confident in our security policies and practices, and we'll 182 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: continue to emphasize adherence to them with our staff, whether 183 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: on or off premises. Additionally, the Olbrich family is working 184 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: with the organization to participate in community service initiatives. In 185 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: relation to last week's matter, Steve, I ran this past 186 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: you before we came on the air. Put yourself back 187 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: in the day where you are twenty years of age, Steve, 188 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: and you have done something stupid enough to cost your 189 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: dad one hundred thousand dollars and the company he works 190 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: for two hundred and fifty k. What is the punishment 191 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: levied for one young mister Steve Tasker? 192 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: Steve Tasker, Yeah, Steve Tasker would have to leave town. 193 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now, I'm lucky if I'm alive. 194 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. Can you imagine the family dynamic of coming home 195 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: and having that, you know, spring that on the old 196 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: FA family, wife and kids. That's rough. And for those 197 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: of you, for those of you who aren't following this, 198 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: Jack's Olbrick, the son of the defensive court defensive coordinator 199 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: of the Falcons prank called Shadeur Sanders and act like 200 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: he because he's shad was falling. We all know the story. 201 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: He's falled and pranked him. Say hey, I'm a GM 202 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: and the of whatever team and we're gonna pick you. 203 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: Had a punchline for him and then hung up. 204 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 205 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: Well they recorded the call yeah on social media and 206 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: put it on social media like really, and uh, holy crow. 207 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: Three hundred and fifty thousand dollars later, two hundred and 208 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: fifty by the Falcons and one hundred by Olbrick. Now, listen, 209 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 2: the guy's making seven figures easily. Yeah, so I just 210 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: know he's not going to miss any meals. But man, 211 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: oh man, that was twenty year old me. 212 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: Woo my dad. First of all, the first announcement at 213 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:02,479 Speaker 1: the dinner table would be Christmas is canceled for like indefinitely, 214 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: No Christmas, it's not happening ever again. Your college, your college, 215 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: you're paying for your own college, the loans rolling all 216 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: of that. 217 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: Ye holy wow, that would cripple. That's that's crippling. And 218 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: I get it they're they're talking. They all live in 219 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: different economic but man, oh man, that is a that's 220 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: a rough one. That's rough. 221 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: I know I wouldn't be sitting down for about a week. 222 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: Even at twenty years old. My hide would have been tanned. 223 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: Man, how I mean think about that conversation. That is 224 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: just because there's a lot of there's a majority of 225 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: people in this country don't make a hundred grand. 226 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: And you have publicly embarrassed your family and especially your dad. Yes, 227 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: who has to answer to the organization now on top 228 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: of it? 229 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: You know, wow, Arthur Blank, Jeff, could you come in 230 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: here for a minute. 231 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: Just want to run something past, something past just uh 232 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: seems access to your iPad. 233 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: I've got to puke up a two hundred and fifty 234 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: thousand dollars Because what do you think that because your 235 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: kid is a donkey? What do you what do you. 236 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: Think the community service initiatives are? What do you think 237 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: young Jacks is going to be doing for the better 238 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: part of his summer. I think Young Jack's is gonna 239 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: be in the breaking rocks with a hammer, or. 240 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: I think he's going to be in the stocks in 241 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 2: the town square throwing tomatoes, throw tomatoes. 242 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is rough. 243 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: That's rough. Oh jeez, that's hard to bounce back for 244 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: you that you know, think about it. I just don't 245 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: that kid's got that's gonna be that's gonna travel around 246 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: with him. Yeah, forever in this industry. I just. 247 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: I just don't understand because the league has already said 248 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: they're investigating other incidences. 249 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's happened. Seven. There's a seven prank calls. 250 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: The Bill six round picked Chase Lunt when we got 251 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: him on the conference call after we got picked by 252 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: the Bill, said, yeah, it's been a long weekend because 253 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: I've gotten a handful of prank calls, you know, telling 254 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: me I'm drafted and cannot. 255 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: Most of those come from your your buddies, you know, 256 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: your your college but because they're the ones that got 257 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: your number, well, nobody like nobody's calling somebody they don't 258 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: know and pranking them unless they're yeah they are, yeah, 259 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: because they got to get you got to get the 260 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: number from some place. And most of these guys is 261 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: pranked by your whatever, your your brother, your your college 262 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 2: buddy or whatever. And it's not serious, but it still happens. 263 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what you ain't fun. I was 264 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: thinking about it when I was waiting to get drafted myself, 265 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 2: you know, and it was like the draft went from 266 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: morning and it just kept going until it was done. Yeah, 267 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: and you know, every you know, I'm sitting I'm at 268 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: college by myself, at Northwestern University. I don't have it. 269 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. You have a landline, Yes, 270 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: it's a landline. You got to stay by the phone 271 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: all the time. You got to stay in your in 272 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: my room. And you know, I'm I'm at college, I'm 273 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: away from home, and I you know, and it's you 274 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: don't have any idea. I don't think I'm going to 275 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: get drafted at all, and if I do, it's going 276 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: to be like nighttime a little later. But you can't leave. 277 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: And so every time the phone rings, not only do 278 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: you have to pick it up and say hey, if 279 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: it's one of your family members, of hey, any word 280 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: has yet, you say no, and you get off my. 281 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: Phone because you don't want a team calling. In the 282 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: back in the day, you had something called a busy signal. 283 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: That's right, that no call waiting. 284 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: Either, that's right, it's a busy signal. I said no, 285 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: I don't and you're trying to be nice, but get 286 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: off my phone. Right, So it's it's you're dying. 287 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: At And we had Brandon in here on Monday saying yeah, yeah. 288 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: When when we called Chase, his dad actually got on 289 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: the first, Chase answers the phone and says hello, and 290 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: he says, yeah, it's Brandon Bean, general manager of the Bills, 291 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: And he says, is it really and he's like, yeah, yeah, really, 292 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: it's really me. And then his dad jumps in and says, well, 293 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: the reason we're asking is unfortunately we've gotten three or 294 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: four prank calls today and it's just like, why is 295 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: it so hard like for people to just. 296 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: It's not that funny. Don't be a donkey, it's not 297 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: that funny. 298 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 299 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just not not good. But how about it? Though, 300 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: it's it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing for the organization. And you 301 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: know because the kid's dad has some note right, you know, 302 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: and it's obvious, but that was an agree it was 303 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: a mishappened in the organization. 304 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there'll be steps taken by the league because 305 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: from what I've been told, and I understand, when the 306 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: league sends out the phone numbers for the prospects or 307 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: the agents send out forty of them about whatever the 308 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: whoever is on that contact list, it says right at 309 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: the top, confidential. And the only people in each NFL 310 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: organization that get those are the GM, the head coach, 311 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: and the either Pro personnel director or director of Football ops, 312 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: whatever the title of that player. Those are the only 313 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: three people that get it, and then they distribute it accordingly. 314 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, whoever needs it. 315 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna get And I'll say this too, strictly 316 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: enforced next year. 317 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: Twenty one year. This Jack's olbrick. Twenty one. That's too 318 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: old for that. 319 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're expecting a dumb mistake from like a sixteen. 320 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: Year Yeah, fourteen or sixteen year old, you know, twenty one. 321 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: It's just like, dude, man twenty one. He you know, 322 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: what do you have to mention? 323 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: Your father works in the NFL? 324 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: Like, come on, bro, Yeah, that's and doing it to 325 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: somebody you don't know. Yeah, Like, it's not like one 326 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 2: of your college teammates. 327 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: That is a that is a that is a frat 328 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: group think schemes. 329 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah it sounds great. 330 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: College sounds great. Hey guys, whylet me do this? This 331 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: is gonna be awesome. 332 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: Sounds great and all film it. Yeah, right, sounds great 333 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: over a beer while you're sitting around, But when you 334 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 2: really come to pick up your phone, it's like, nah, 335 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: you can't do that. Something's got a snap in there 336 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: and say, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, that's clearly GOODA 337 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: that's bad. 338 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles are exercising their fifty year option on 339 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: defensive tackle Jordan Davis. That option worth twelve point nine million, 340 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: which could be a bargain if Davis blows it up 341 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: this season with a monster year in his third NFL 342 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: season starting defensive tackle for the Eagles. Jaguars not picking 343 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: up the fifty year option for linebacker Devin Lloyd, he 344 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: has now set to hit twenty twenty six free agency. 345 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: Lloyd did have one hundred and thirteen tackles, two sacks, 346 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: and an interception, along with four pass breakups last season. 347 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: He was the nineteenth overall pick in that San Francisco 348 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers signed free agent offensive tackle DJ Humphries 349 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: to a one year deal. Spent last season in Kansas 350 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: City as a backup. Falcons expected to exercise the fifty 351 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: year option on wide receiver Drake London. That fifth year 352 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: deal is worth just over sixteen point eight million. And 353 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: then the Minnesota Vikings give outside linebacker Andrew van Ginkel 354 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: a one year extension worth twenty three million. So I 355 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: bet there's a couple of oid years in there for 356 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: that one. But he did have a monster year for 357 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: the Vikings last year, so good for him. 358 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Vikings, they've done a lot of things, right, I. 359 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: Think, Yeah, and their coach is pretty sharp. 360 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: He seems pretty sharp. JJ McCarthy. I don't know if 361 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: you saw this either, Brownie. Oh, yeah, he's ready to start, 362 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: you know, he's. 363 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: Somebody asked him, do you think you're ready to be 364 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback here? And he says, I know, I'm 365 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: ready to be the starting quarterback. So a lot was 366 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: made about how we answered that question yesterday. So yes, 367 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: I did see that. 368 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I'll say this too. You know, 369 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: pr people were coaching him up like you got to 370 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 2: get out there. 371 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: Howel is there now because the Vikings traded for him 372 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: on draft weekend, But he'll probably be the backup. 373 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 2: I would think, absolutely, at least to start with. But 374 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: I you know, there's no reason to think J. J. 375 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: McCarthy isn't going to come in and play well. His 376 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 2: injury was is long behind him. He should be a 377 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: full year by the time the season roles. It'll be 378 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: a full year because he got hurt extremely early in 379 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: the season. We'll see yeah, and you know, I like 380 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: the answer. I like the answer he gave. Yeah. 381 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: Curious to see because you know, Kevin O'Connell very quickly, 382 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: after doing what he did with Sam Darnold last year, 383 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: turning his career around, is thought beginning to be thought 384 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: of as a quarterback whisper, similar to the way Sean 385 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: McVay was. You know, with Jared Goff resuscitating his career 386 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: after a very bad rookie year. He takes over the 387 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: Rams and you know, in two years they're in the 388 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: Super and O'Connell coached under McVeigh. So there's a little 389 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: bit of a tree there. So we'll see what he 390 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: can do with JJ McCarthy is it looks at least 391 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: right now like he's going to be the odds on 392 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: favorite to be their starting QB this year. Topic of 393 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: discussion for you today concerns the Bill's draft class indirectly 394 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: because the question we posed to you today is which 395 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: Bill's defensive line veteran will be challenged the most by 396 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: the new additions to the roster. There are some people 397 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: that are a little bit unnoticed now after three defensive 398 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: linemen were added to the roster via the draft, you 399 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: also got some free agents that have been added to 400 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: the mix. Two ogin Joby Hoyt Bosa so three in 401 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: free agency, three in the draft, which Bills defensive line 402 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: veteran will be challenged the most by the new additions 403 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: to the roster. You let us know at eight h 404 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: three zero five point fifty one eight eight eight five 405 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty those are the numbers to join us. 406 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: We do have some open lines for you right now, 407 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: and we are wide open for your phone calls right 408 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: through to the top of the hour, so feel free 409 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: to chime in. If you've got a few minutes, don't 410 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: have a chance to give us a call, you can 411 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: always hit us up on the tweet sheet at one 412 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Leading us off today is Butcher on the 413 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: east Side. What you got for his Butcher? 414 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 3: My brothers from another mother. I love both of you. 415 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: I got a couple of things, and I need a 416 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 3: favor as well in the end, but I'm gonna get 417 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: right to it. I love MSG, I love wgr and 418 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 3: to all the fans who watch and listen Push from 419 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: the east Side, definitely love you. Let me get right 420 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: to the point this year, and I stated this before 421 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: in the last couple of days. On paper, this is 422 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 3: the best draft that Brendan Bean and his staff has 423 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 3: brought in. I salute them. I want them to take 424 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: a bow because I can actually see where everybody's going 425 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: to be placed and how they're gonna challenge the other 426 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 3: players on this roster for a position, whether they get 427 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: to fifty three or whether they get to their practice squad, 428 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 3: they're gonna challenge. Somebody's going to be leading out of here. 429 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 3: Well now on this Uh, I'm gonna use Dewan Uh. 430 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 3: I mean dion Walk, Dionna Walker, the de tackle from Kentucky. 431 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 3: He's he's the special person before I go to the 432 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 3: secondary real quick, is that I really believe granted can 433 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: use him in the beginning and hide him, get him 434 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 3: on I r let him shot off the rest of 435 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 3: the year, Let him get what let me let me 436 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: get his body work together and get his back together 437 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: and come back after day Kwon Jones, after this last 438 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 3: year is over with, and just take over the whole 439 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 3: operation from going into the new stadium secondary wise and 440 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: our secondary wise. You got Jordan, you got Hancock, you 441 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 3: got Strong. But it's another kid that Brandon. People slipping 442 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: on him that he signed as an undrafted free agent 443 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 3: on Miami Porter Junior, who is another good cornerback that's 444 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: gonna add in along with pushing to Davis White gonna 445 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: be the good grand He's going to be the godfather 446 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 3: of everybody. Benford is already a legend. You got, you 447 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: got your, you got Johnson, And I think I think 448 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: based off what I was hearing real when Brandon was 449 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: with you, he was speaking of but he didn't say it, 450 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 3: But I think cam Lewis is gonna go to safety. 451 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: So anyway, make a long story short, I applaud them. 452 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: This is a good draft. It's a good team based 453 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: off what they're gonna add to what we already have. 454 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: Look going forward, I think be great. Now. This is 455 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 3: the favor I need. I got a call well back 456 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: back in March. I reached out to the Common Council 457 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: of the City of Buffalo and we were abre talking 458 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: about Ritt Morrow aka Slick Rick, and they were the 459 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 3: City of Buffalo contacted me, let'd say about about a 460 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: week ago, and they wanted to get in contact with 461 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: Rick so he can contact them at the city Chamber. 462 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 3: They want to give him a proclamation from the city. 463 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: I need you, and I'm saying his lives. I already 464 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: gave the number to my great friend who answered the phone. 465 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: I need Steve and I need you as my brothers, 466 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: to reach out to the mayor room to deliver the 467 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: mississo see they can contact doctor Carter so he can 468 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: set up with his family, so they can honor him 469 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: like they want to do. I don't have the contact 470 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 3: with Rick Richards and my friends since I was young, 471 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: but I'm older now, so I don't have this contact. 472 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: If you guys can do that for me, I don't 473 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: ask for a lot. I'd be greatly appreciated. But I 474 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: love you guys. Thanks so much. Brandon bean in the staff, 475 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 3: take a bow. We're doing good things now and this 476 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: roster is gonna be turned over. A lot of veterans 477 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: might be pushed off because the iron sharp resign. But 478 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 3: I love you guys, and thank you so much forging. 479 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: Thanks. 480 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 4: Thanks. 481 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, look, it was a good draft. 482 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: I is it his best? I don't know. I mean 483 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: you might have to say. Something has to be said 484 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: about the twenty eighteen draft class with Josh Allen, Tremaine, Edmunds, 485 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, Tarren Johnson, Saran Neil Wyatt Teller, and Ray 486 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: Ray McCloud. I mean most of those guys, all those 487 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: guys are still playing in the league. Yeah, I mean 488 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: that was a pretty good draft class. And I don't 489 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: know if he's topped it. This is good. This one's 490 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: gonna come close. I want to put it second right now, 491 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: before we know for sure about these guys. I'll listen 492 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: to that a little early. It's a little early. 493 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: It looks great after four days. 494 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: He's right, it looks good on paper. 495 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: Tell me how it looks after four years. 496 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: Looks good on paper. He's right about that. Yeah, Yeah, 497 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: we gotta wait, Yeah, I'll wait. 498 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: Also, I'm going to listen about Darryl Porter, cornerback, undrafted 499 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: rookie free agent out of the University of Miami, Darryl Porter. 500 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: We'll see how he plays. He's going to get a chance. 501 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: They've got three wide receivers in their rookie undrafted rookie class, 502 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: got a tight end in their undrafted rookie class. Two 503 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: defensive ends, a linebacker, yeah, and safety. 504 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: So and nothing's going to be made official until they 505 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: get in here and sign and pass physicals. 506 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 2: But right none of this isn't. Yeah, the guys I 507 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: mentioned these positions are just guys that they're talking to 508 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: interested and if they come in past the physical then 509 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: they'll sign. They haven't been signed yet, they've agreed to terms, 510 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: they've agreed. 511 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of where it's now. 512 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: And also let me say that, yes, if the Mayor's 513 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: office wants to reach slick Rick, it'll take him about 514 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: two seconds. 515 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: So call the main office number here. 516 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: They will you be, They'll get slick Rick slick Rick's 517 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: cell number real quick if you're if you're at a high 518 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: enough level if you want to get hold of him. So, yeah, 519 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: he doesn't. They don't need our help. But thanks, Butchie, 520 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I'm thank you for looking out for him. 521 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: Uh let's go to John in Buffalo. Next. 522 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: What's up John, how are you doing today? Good? 523 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 4: Good? 524 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 5: Good? 525 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 6: Hey listen, I won't I'll make this pretty brief. First 526 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 6: of all, I love what you guys do. I love 527 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 6: watching everything, listening to the the the content that you 528 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 6: put out there is just phenomenal. My thing is the 529 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 6: defensive line veteran that will be challenged, in my opinion, 530 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 6: will be Daykwon Jones. I think he's on a little notice. 531 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 6: I think he's done well, but I also believe that 532 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 6: with these new additions, I don't feel he's holding his 533 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 6: own to where that Oliver could make his actual do 534 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 6: what he needs to do and do well. I mean, 535 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 6: he suffered a little bit in the season, and I 536 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 6: think that was due to Daikwon Jones. That's my opinion. 537 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 6: I think that Daikwon will have a better season, but 538 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 6: I think he's the one on notice. Thanks guys, that's 539 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 6: all from me. I appreciate your time. 540 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: All right, thank you for the call. John. Yeah, Daikwon 541 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: turns thirty four this year. I mean he's a little 542 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: long in the tooth, and when he first got here, 543 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: I thought he was a major improvement for the defensive interior. 544 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: He was a stalwart in there. Yeah, had the peck 545 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: injury in twenty twenty four in the London game and 546 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: missed most of the season, came back late in the 547 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: year playoffs, and then last year comes back healthy and. 548 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: It was twenty three. He got injured in twenty four. 549 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: Twenty three, sorry, yes, twenty three, he got injured in 550 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: London twenty four, got through most of the season healthy 551 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean it's a hard position play down 552 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: in there, man, and there's not many guys that do 553 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: it into their mid thirties. There are exceptions, like kalay 554 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: Is Campbell, but they are few and far between. 555 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a good It's as good as a 556 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: guess as any. 557 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: He will be pushed, He'll be a question by a 558 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: couple of guys. 559 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: It's hard. Yeah, it's hard. Like Brownie said, it's grueling 560 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 2: in there, and uh yeah, it's a good answer. And 561 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 2: he probably is. A guy like Dian Walker coming in 562 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: who's three hundred and fifty pounds, just bigger and stronger 563 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: and at this point proper probably more athletic, just because 564 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 2: Dake One's, you know, got so many miles on him. 565 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: He's it's hard to be that nimble anymore. So, uh yeah, 566 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: that's a it's a good answer. 567 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to Dave in Orchard Park next. What 568 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: do you got for us? Daviere on one Bill's Live. 569 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 7: Good afternoon, gentlemen, thanks for taking the call. I think 570 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 7: all of them, the entire defensive line should be challenged 571 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 7: and they should be nervous. This line has been inconsistent 572 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 7: for the last several of years and has done in 573 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 7: the Bills numerous times in the playoffs. Our last defensive 574 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 7: line player that led the team a double digit sacks 575 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 7: was Leonard Floyd with ten and a half and he's 576 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 7: now in Atlanta bya SF. This line has been the 577 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 7: reason why this Bill's defense has been pathetic over the 578 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 7: last few years in the playoffs, and Alan blames himself 579 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 7: all the time. Alan can't play defense. I'm glad that 580 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 7: they brought in Holk and Okanjobi and Bosa and all 581 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 7: these draft picks. Hopefully this entire defensive line is challenged 582 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 7: and gets nervous. 583 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean they're on notice, and it doesn't 584 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: take a rocket scientist to figure out that the personnel 585 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: department and the coaching staff felt major changes and major 586 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: additions were needed. Yeah. 587 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: Brownie pointed out they got five years younger on average 588 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: age since the last time they played a game in January. 589 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: You know, obviously some of that from the age leaving. 590 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: But they drafted three defensive linemen in their first four 591 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: picks of this draft. There's got there. I think there's 592 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: something in that. 593 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and and look, if you look at the 594 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: general track record of this football team during the being 595 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: in McDermott regime. If you're a player taken in the 596 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: first three picks, more often than not, if you're not 597 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: a starter right away, you are by year two, year 598 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: three at the latest. There are exceptions. You know, everybody's 599 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: going to bring up the Kyrie Elmpic and I get that. 600 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: But the vast majority of picks made by this team 601 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: in rounds one through three have become starting players, some 602 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: sooner than others, but they have a pretty good hit 603 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: rate in terms of that, and with the talent that's 604 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: coming in here, I would anticipate it continues and it 605 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: may stretch all the way to round four. Knowing Dion 606 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: Walker was a fourth round draft choice. I got to 607 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: take a break here. When we come back, more of 608 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: your phone calls, Mike and Orchard Park will lead us off. 609 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: Which defensive line veteran do you think will be challenged 610 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: them most by the new additions to the roster eight O, 611 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: three oh five fifty your calls. Next here on One 612 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. 613 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: All right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, 614 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: Steve Task and talking to you today about which Bill's 615 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: defensive line veteran. Do you believe will be challenged the 616 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: most by the new additions to the roster? As promised, 617 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: We lead off with Mike and Orchard Park at eight 618 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: O three oh five fifty. 619 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: What's up Mike, Hey, guys, how you doing good? 620 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 5: Thanks? 621 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on the show. And hey, I 622 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 8: want to say thanks guys for bringing Brandon being on. 623 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 8: I think it was Monday. You know, I thought he 624 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 8: bought some good insight kind of his approach on the 625 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 8: draft and kind of where we are as a team. 626 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 8: So that was very insightful. So where this is what 627 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 8: I'm thinking, I'm gonna say at Oliver Man, you know, 628 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 8: it's it's it's it's been known that out there there's 629 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 8: been excuses made. Let's be honest with that. Oliver, well, 630 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 8: why he hasn't been as successful as we want him 631 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 8: to be as a player. Right, So, with the additions 632 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 8: of Sanders, Jackson Walker, like, I get it the rookies, 633 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 8: but at the same time, I feel all three of 634 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 8: them players are hungry, They're young, athletic, They're going to 635 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 8: be coming out there. I mean, training camp is gonna 636 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 8: be a battleman and at the end of the day, 637 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 8: I think that's what Brandon Bey wants. You know that. 638 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 8: That's kind of an inception I got from when he 639 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 8: came on your show. He wants he you know, he 640 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 8: wants it competitive. He you know, like, I feel we're 641 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 8: kind of moving, moving our scheme around as a defense, 642 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 8: and uh. 643 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 9: You know you just move over, man. 644 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 8: I I just we we got to see some more 645 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 8: interior pressure from this defense. And I've been you know, 646 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 8: when you look at this team, I don't really feel 647 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 8: as the outside as much as it's the interior pressure 648 00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 8: and and and and one more thing, guys, Bosa, I. 649 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 7: Love him man. 650 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 8: You know, like he had opportunity to stay in the 651 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 8: big city with his brother, but he wanted to come 652 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 8: back to a small city and focus on Buffalo, come 653 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 8: to a football town. I'm expecting big teams from him 654 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 8: as well. So so overall that's my opinion. 655 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Mike. I'll say I'll say this, I don't 656 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: disagree with you at all. I think we can all 657 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: agree that Ed had a great season in twenty twenty three, 658 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: to the tune of nine and a half sacks. He 659 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: was a consistent weekend and week out performer, and for 660 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: whatever reason, that weekly consistency went away last year. He 661 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: had some bright spots, played a great game against the 662 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Lions where he dominated, and it's like, well, geez, where 663 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: was that the previous twelve weeks Because we just didn't 664 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: see it enough, and we certainly didn't see it as 665 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: consistently as we did the season prior. So how do 666 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: you get him back to that? And you see what 667 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: the Bills have done. First with their coaching staff. They 668 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: had Ryan Nielson as a senior defensive assistant. He's expected 669 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: to work with the defensive line, and Coach West, who's 670 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: the defensive line coach, and then you have an assistant 671 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: defensive line coach, and Jason Rebrovitch, who's a veteran coach 672 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: in this league who's also going to be there. And 673 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: then you see them add six new guys, six new 674 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: defensive linemen, three in free agency, three in the draft, 675 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: and you say, you know what, if the coaches can't 676 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: get it out of them, people breathing down his neck 677 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: will because Steve, I don't know about you, but TJ. 678 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: Sanders has the exact same skill set as Ed Oliver 679 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: in terms of the type of defensive tackle he is, 680 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: and he's about twenty pounds heavier and five inches taller. 681 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 2: Right, it's yeah. You bring new guys into the room, 682 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: particularly young guys, and this is one of the things 683 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: that happens at this time of year all the time. 684 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 2: And we talk to these guys as they come in, 685 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: particularly the guys who were rookies last year, like Keon, 686 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 2: you come in to sit down with them, and they 687 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 2: realize now they see another draft class come in. It's like, oh, 688 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: here comes these these guys are probably gonna make it too. 689 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: So well, you're they're gonna put them. They're gonna be 690 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: making assessments like my first day in pads, like oh, 691 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: this guy can really play. 692 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: You start doing some mental math and evaluations. You come 693 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 2: up with your own depth chart and somewhere you've got 694 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: to fit in there. Yeah, it's it's not easy to 695 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 2: see your possible replacement hired on national TV. Yeah, and 696 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: it and it does. Yeah, the message is clear. 697 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: You don't perform, We've got somebody else who will. Yeah 698 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: to Bobby in Buffalo next, what's up, Bobby? 699 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 5: Hey, guys, how you doing good? Oh? Good? Now I'm 700 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 5: looking at looking at the TV. Wanted to answer the question, 701 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,959 Speaker 5: what what defensive line veteran will be challenged the most 702 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 5: by the new additions to the roster. The roster very easy, 703 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 5: simple and easy. Joey Bosa, that's what That's who I 704 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 5: think is going to be challenged the most, Joey Bosa 705 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 5: because because I believe Joey Bosa is one of the 706 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 5: most impact defensive linemen in the NFL. Okay, and and 707 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 5: and you know what that the one thing that guys 708 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 5: help me with this. The one thing I cannot understand 709 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 5: about about Brandon Bean is this, and and please answer 710 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 5: me this. Every year in the draft, it seems like 711 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 5: every year in the draft, the Buffalo Bills always go 712 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 5: for defense. I don't understand why they why they're getting 713 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 5: so many decent defensive players when actually the help is 714 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 5: really on offense. Okay, because for years, for years and 715 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 5: for years that I've been watching this team, the defenses, 716 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 5: the defense has always been the trademark of the team. 717 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, And and and Steve Task 718 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 5: you can detest to this too, because the defense always 719 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 5: been the trademark back in the day, since since I 720 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 5: would say the Bruce Smith, Cornelius Bennett, Shane conlin era 721 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 5: I'm talking about back. I'm talking about back in the 722 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 5: day when Steve Tasker was playing with it. 723 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bobby, this is every I get it. But what 724 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 2: you're saying, but I don't know if I can agree 725 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 2: with you about this era. I mean, and plus I'll 726 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 2: say this too. Most people don't think about the Bills 727 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 2: being a different team every year, but it is a 728 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 2: very different team every year, and under the Sean McDermott era. 729 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 2: Since twenty eighteen when they drafted Josh, everything has been 730 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: different about this franchise, and it needed to be because 731 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: they were in a seventeen year drought. If it was 732 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: back in when the defense was the calling card, I 733 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 2: think the offense is the calling card and has been 734 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: since Josh has been an MVP caliber player since twenty twenty. 735 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 2: Every year since twenty twenty, you could make a case 736 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 2: for Josh being the guy as the MV and and 737 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't go back and look at 738 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 2: you know. 739 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 1: I will then because right because it's not accurate. 740 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not accurate. I think I think it's pretty 741 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty offense defense. 742 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, this year was an exception. 743 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: This year was one different or two different. 744 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: Well, six out of nine. We're on defense this year, 745 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: So you want to talk about it this year, that's fine, 746 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: But you go to the twenty twenty two, even the 747 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one draft, Yes, they go Rousseau bash him first, 748 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: but then it's Brown and Doyle after that, and a receiver. 749 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: So three of the first five picks defense, and then 750 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two it's Elam in the first round, but 751 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: then you have Cook followed by Bernard and Shakir. So 752 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: that's your first four picks there, two offense, two defense, 753 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: and then twenty twenty three it's Kincaid and Osiris Torrance 754 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: the first two picks, and then last year it's Keon 755 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: Coleman and then yes cole Bishop, Dwayne Carter, but they 756 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: got Ray Davis, Cedric Van Prank Granger. That's still three 757 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: of the first five picks are on offense. So I 758 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: don't know where this narrative comes from. 759 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it. It's it's yeah, And I don't 760 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: know why. I don't know why. You think joe Bosa 761 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: is gonna feel like he's challenged. I think Joey Bosa 762 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 2: is going to be self motivated to come in and 763 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 2: make a statement on a new team. And I don't 764 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: think there's any way signing a one year deal that 765 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 2: like he did, that he's going to come in unmotivated. 766 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: He's going to try and get another contract. Yeah, so 767 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 2: he's gonna come and he probably welcomes the challenge. 768 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: I also think that bos is probably going to be 769 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: a passer a specialist most weeks. I don't see him 770 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: playing a lot of first and ten snaps. I think 771 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: they want to save his best for the money down, 772 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: which is third down or obvious passing situations. If it's 773 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: second and fifteen, he's going to be on the field. 774 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: If it's third and six or more, he's on the fields. 775 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: Right third and four or more, he's on the field. 776 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 2: And I'll say this too, I do not subscribe. I've 777 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 2: heard people call in our show and other shows and 778 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 2: they make the statement about how Josh needs help. The 779 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 2: offense needs help because they don't finish games, and I 780 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 2: think that is completely inaccurate, completely inaccurate. You can point 781 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 2: to games where they haven't been able to finish offensively 782 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 2: or whatever, but that that is not the That is 783 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: the exception, not the rule. Josh walks off the field 784 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 2: a lot in late in the fourth quarter, with the lead, 785 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 2: after having given the team the lead, and you can 786 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: go back at all the you know, all the obvious 787 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: examples of that, and we don't need to go into 788 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,240 Speaker 2: that here. But and that's you know, this this whole 789 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 2: stuff about Brandon Bean and the wide receivers and all that. 790 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, he's right. This is a team 791 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 2: that was picked to go forth in the in the 792 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 2: division last year and ended up scoring a franchise record 793 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 2: in points in a season. I mean, they were lighting 794 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 2: it up, and that's gonna they're using that formula to 795 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 2: go forward. And the fact they don't have an age, 796 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 2: they don't have an AJ Brown or a you know, 797 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 2: a Calvin Johnson or somebody like that, even a Steph Diggs. 798 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 2: Don't forget the eight thirty million dollars last year, so 799 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 2: they didn't have Steph Diggs. So I think they like 800 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 2: this recipe much much better than the alternative that so 801 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 2: many people. 802 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: The philosophical shift in what they feel their offense needs 803 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: and it's not a number one receiver and they feel 804 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: with the success they had last year, they don't need one, 805 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: and they're moving forward that way. And that's just the 806 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: way it is. 807 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 2: They got a great wide receiver. I mean they got 808 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 2: a great running back, got a great running back room. 809 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 2: They like the way this offense shapes up in its 810 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 2: personnel side. 811 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: Gotta take a break here. When we come back, Lee 812 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: and Almira will lead us off as we're still taking 813 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: your phone calls on which defensive line veteran will be 814 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 1: challenged the most by the new additions to the roster. 815 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: We're back in the flash here on one Bill's Live. 816 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: Stay with us back here on one Bill's Live. As 817 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: we're talking with you about which defensive line veteran do 818 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: you think will be challenged the most by the new 819 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: additions to the roster? Eight O three oh five fifty 820 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: the number to get on board, and we go right 821 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: to Lee in Elmira next, What do you got for us? 822 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 3: Lee, good afternoon. 823 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 10: I appreciate you guys taking my call. 824 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 1: Sure. 825 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 10: The reason why I'm calling is because on your topic, 826 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 10: I think it's actually going to be Ed Oliver due 827 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 10: to his inconsistent play. I think he's the one. He's 828 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 10: the one that's going to be the odd man out. 829 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 5: If you look. 830 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 10: At the free agent signings, are the free agent signings 831 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 10: we got and the draft picks they are bigger, stronger, 832 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 10: and maybe even faster. It would not surprise me if 833 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 10: sometime before Week one you see that Ed Oliver gets 834 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 10: traded because I feel like he's the odd man out 835 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 10: when it comes all that. 836 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I get where you're coming from, Lee. 837 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 1: In terms of pushing him, I don't know if it's 838 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: going to push him off the roster. Just signed an 839 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: extension over a year ago. And look, I'll never say 840 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: never about anything. If Brandon Bean feels he's making his 841 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: team better, he's gonna do it, whatever that might be. 842 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: But you're in to win the whole kit and kaboodle 843 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: year here, and you don't get better by getting rid 844 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 1: of talented players. And I don't think any of us 845 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: would argue that Ed Oliver is supremely talented. The question 846 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: is can you get that supreme talent out of him 847 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: every single week? Last year? You did not, And I 848 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: think they're trying this tactic to try to get that 849 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: out of him by putting a player behind him on 850 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: the depth chart in TJ Sanders, who has every bit 851 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: the skill set that he has and he's bigger and stronger. 852 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it's going to push him off the 853 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: roster might affect his playing time, might not get might 854 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: not get the majority of snaps, might not be getting 855 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: fifty snaps a game. If he doesn't improve his level 856 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: of consistency, and TJ will be on the field, he'll 857 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: have he may I don't think he's moving off the roster. No, 858 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: I do on either, but he may have his role 859 00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: altered and where he rotates in may change. And that's 860 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: that's the difference. And we'll see. But it's a good answer. 861 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: And I and you're right. 862 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at the veterans, it's gonna 863 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 2: be Rousseau, it's gonna be a j Panessa, de Kwon, Jones, 864 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 2: Ed Oliver. And you know you can you could make 865 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 2: a case for guys like obviously, like Javon Solomon. You 866 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 2: know it's a guy who's got one year in and 867 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 2: like Dwayne Carter's got one year in. I think most 868 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 2: people on the tips of their tongues keep those those 869 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 2: prominent players who have signed second contracts. You start looking 870 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 2: at them in a different light when the numbers get 871 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:40,240 Speaker 2: to be short and you really don't want to release 872 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 2: a shiny new rookie who has some promise now. But 873 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,439 Speaker 2: somebody's got to somebody's gonna get pushed or sat down. 874 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 2: And that's the question today, And you're right, it's not 875 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 2: we're talking about. It's not easy. It's not easy. And 876 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 2: it could be that Landon Jackson explodes and then it 877 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 2: becomes aj Panessa and Greg Russeau and all these other 878 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,399 Speaker 2: you know, the edge guys. Yep, instead of. 879 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: Maybe Landon Jackson is playing first and second down and right, 880 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: he's the guy playing the bass downs before Bosa comes 881 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 1: on the field, not agent right. 882 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 2: And Bosa takes the von Miller role from a year 883 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 2: that could happen. So it depends on which guy comes 884 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,720 Speaker 2: in and really blows it up as a Dion Walker. 885 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 2: Then you know it's a defensive tackle room or the 886 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 2: position group. And if it's Landon Jackson, you know, it's 887 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 2: a different conversation to Alex in Pittsburgh. 888 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 1: Next, what's up Alex? 889 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 11: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. It's big honor. 890 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 11: I listen to you guys all the time driving a 891 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,399 Speaker 11: truck there in Pittsburgh. And I got a quick question 892 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 11: and then maybe calm and my question is I just 893 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 11: saw that I guess we release Sam Martin. I don't 894 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 11: know if we have anyone else on the practice squad 895 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 11: or being plans on siding someone else and in the 896 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 11: autom man out, I think on the defensive line, I 897 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 11: totally disagree with the last caller at Oliver is not 898 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 11: good anywhere, at least not this year with all that 899 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 11: dead cap. But maybe Dwayne Carter and maybe Solomon might 900 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 11: be on the way out. So that'll be my opinion. 901 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 11: Maybe say some sellary cap. But and I just want 902 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,479 Speaker 11: to uh, I'll hang up and listene what you guys 903 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 11: have to say. It again, thank you very much for 904 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 11: taking my call. It's and always in honor to talk 905 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 11: to you guys, and God bless to have my say. 906 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Alex. Drive safe out there. 907 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 2: They've got two punters on the roster, Jake Kmarta and 908 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 2: Brad Robbins. They were both drafted by different teams in 909 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 2: the NFL, so they've got a little bit and they've 910 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 2: got some chops. 911 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 4: Yeah. 912 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 1: Camarta was in Tampa Bay, Brad Robbins was in Cincinnati, 913 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: and Steve and I actually got a chance to chat 914 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,720 Speaker 1: with those guys a little bit after. 915 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 2: They had during the They were just milling. 916 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: Around doing some workouts here in the building and we 917 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: just kind of introduced ourselves and we were shooting the 918 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 1: breeze with them a little. 919 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 2: Bit, talking golf. 920 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. But yeah, it's they already have two 921 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 1: punters on the roster and I would imagine those two 922 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 1: are going to go into training camp just competing with 923 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: one another. I don't think they'll add another one. So yeah, 924 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: they're covered at punter. And then as for you know, 925 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: who's on notice, I don't know that at Dwayne Carter 926 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: being a third round draft choice is punted, you know, 927 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 1: after one year. I think there was some promise that 928 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 1: he was showing right before he suffered the wrist injury, 929 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: and then his season kind of went up and smoke 930 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: after that. But that guy was making a difference in 931 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 1: that Houston game in Week five, which was a game 932 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: the Bills ultimately lost, but he was making plays and 933 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: I think that was that might have been the one 934 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 1: game where they did not have Ed Oliver and Dwayne 935 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: Carter got a lot more playing time. I think he 936 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: had three tackles for loss in that game and two 937 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: third down stops like he you noticed him. 938 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, he And it was really unfortunate that he went 939 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 2: down with an injury. And I think two before they 940 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 2: brought him back because of the nature of the injury. 941 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, well, I can't remember exactly what it was. 942 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,280 Speaker 1: It was a risk right, busted risks. 943 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 2: I think he was one of those guys saying, you 944 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 2: know what, we like this guy. We're winning games. We 945 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 2: got to going, let's hide him out and kate and 946 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 2: just use him as a break glass in case of 947 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 2: emergency coming back. And I kind of hit him out 948 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 2: a little bit last year in the hopes they bring 949 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 2: him back, give him a full year to get healthy. 950 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 2: And now you know they I think they really like 951 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 2: what he can do. So yeah, and that's one of 952 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 2: the names that we brought up. 953 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 1: I mean, a guy like Javon Solomon, you know, if 954 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,760 Speaker 1: if he doesn't look what did we hear? They wanted 955 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: to get bigger, stronger, and longer. Javon Solomon's strong, He's 956 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: got some pass rush clout, but he's not long. Does 957 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 1: that hurt him in the evaluation to the point where 958 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: maybe he winds up on the practice squad this year 959 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: instead of the active roster. I don't think they like 960 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: getting rid of draft picks that they feel still have 961 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: promise and growth within them, but it might see him 962 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 1: land on the practice squad. 963 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 2: That's and him being here for a year and then 964 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,919 Speaker 2: wanting to change kind of the prototype of what they 965 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 2: will have nothing to do with. They still got us 966 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 2: line up and see who plays best rush year this offseason. 967 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 2: So if Solomon shows up and plays great, he's in. 968 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 2: It's that simple. They're not going to get rid of 969 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 2: him because all of a sudden he got short and smaller. 970 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 2: They don't know. Yeah, it's all about this is why 971 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 2: we say challenge. It's it's going to be a challenge 972 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 2: for these guys to produce within the group and who 973 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 2: the highest production guys are going to stay and the 974 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 2: lower ones are not. 975 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: Break time for us here, we will take your phone 976 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: calls after we speak with Sam Pittman, head coach of 977 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,760 Speaker 1: the Arkansas Razorbacks, going to talk a little Landon Jackson 978 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: with him to kick off our number two. When we 979 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: return here on One Bill's Live presented by Colid of Health, 980 00:49:29,760 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. The One Bill's Live presented by 981 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: Kalida Health. All right now our number two here on 982 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,800 Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 983 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: with you and pleased to be joined now by the 984 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: head coach of Arkansas football led them to a Liberty 985 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: Bowl victory over Texas Tech at the end of last season. 986 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: It's Sam Pittman joining us on the line here, and coach, 987 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: thanks for giving us some time. I think you know 988 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: why we're why we got you on the show here. 989 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: We got to talk a little Landon Jackson with you, 990 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: and I gotta say the thing I wanted to ask you, 991 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 1: because I think you can really speak to this from 992 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: a true expert perspective. You know, being a long time 993 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: offensive line coach yourself, what do you think shows up 994 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: on film the most with Landon Jackson that as a 995 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, a former line coach, would have you concerned 996 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: going into a game against that guy. 997 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 12: Well, it's length would be the first thing that you 998 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 12: know his arm length is. Before I wasn't as concerned 999 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 12: about his get off the ball because we had to 1000 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 12: work on it. But tell you what, now, his get 1001 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,879 Speaker 12: off is something. And if he can get an edge 1002 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 12: on you, you know he's hard because he's so long 1003 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 12: and he's and he's fast. We moved him inside some 1004 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 12: and rushed a little bit there too, and I thought 1005 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,320 Speaker 12: that was great. For him because of his quickness and 1006 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 12: obviously his length in there as well, So on those guards, 1007 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 12: you know, So that would be the first two. And 1008 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 12: then he's got a big time motor. And so those 1009 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 12: are the things that would be concerning to me as 1010 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 12: an officsive line coach. 1011 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 2: We see one of the things we don't get a 1012 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 2: chance to see doing at this level at the NFL 1013 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 2: playing on Sundays you do on Saturdays, is you've got 1014 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,760 Speaker 2: a guy like Lannon Jackson who is a completely different 1015 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 2: dude three years from the time he comes in as 1016 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,359 Speaker 2: a freshman to the time he gets to his where 1017 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 2: you got him on the field all the time. Give 1018 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 2: us an idea of what you saw from beginning to 1019 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,720 Speaker 2: end of his time at Arkansas. 1020 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 12: Well, I think you know, with him, I believe that 1021 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 12: he really liked Arkansas out of high school. We just were, 1022 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 12: you know, unfortunately, we weren't very good at that time, 1023 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 12: and and and I don't know if that's why we 1024 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 12: lost him, but that was part of it. And then 1025 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 12: when the coaching change came, he basically contacted us. And 1026 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 12: so I've seen him mature. He's always he's got a 1027 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 12: great family and as I told a lot of NFL scouts. 1028 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 12: He's gotten better for us every single year, and I 1029 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,879 Speaker 12: believe he's going to get better in the NFL every 1030 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,879 Speaker 12: single year because he wants to. He's got greater leadership abilities. 1031 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 12: He's one of those guys that you know didn't come 1032 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,399 Speaker 12: in here in the NIL era and you know, say, 1033 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 12: I have to have this, never threaten me. Let's put 1034 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 12: it like that. And I have high respect for guys 1035 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 12: like that. And obviously we want to pay him what 1036 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 12: we felt like we could and what his worth was. 1037 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 12: But just a guy that's non confrontational, a guy that's 1038 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,720 Speaker 12: matured each and every year, he's gotten bigger, he's gotten 1039 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 12: really strong. You know, he had acl coming in here, 1040 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 12: so that very first spring he was not able to practice, 1041 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 12: but we've never had one bit of a problem with 1042 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 12: that either. So surgeons are so much better than they 1043 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 12: used to be, and and you know, he didn't miss 1044 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 12: game time or anything like that. So he's just gotten bigger, stronger. 1045 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 12: And the one thing that I will say, his explosiveness 1046 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 12: has improved greatly since he's been here over the last 1047 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 12: three years. 1048 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Coach, just to kind of dovetail off you 1049 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 1: what you said about him, still having some ceiling to reach, 1050 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: you know, here at the highest level of football. To 1051 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 1: what degree do you feel he's refined himself as a 1052 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: pass rusher through his college years. 1053 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 12: I think he's just getting better, and I think he's 1054 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 12: got work to do in that area, and I think 1055 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 12: he will. And I think where he went in the draft, 1056 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 12: I thought that was a really good deal for the Bills. 1057 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 12: You know, I did, obviously, I've been in a long time. 1058 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 12: I thought he, you know, might get drafted much higher 1059 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 12: than what he did. I think he's and I think 1060 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 12: he has something to prove. He's that type of kid 1061 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 12: and and has that mentality. But he's going to go 1062 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 12: in there and he's going to work. He's going to 1063 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 12: be a great team player, and he's going to be 1064 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 12: fit in I think wonderfully with the Bills, And I 1065 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,320 Speaker 12: just feel like his best balls ahead of him, because 1066 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 12: I think he's gotten better each and every year that 1067 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,479 Speaker 12: he was here. 1068 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,879 Speaker 2: One of the unique things about him we found out 1069 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 2: after the draft, you know, we don't really dive deep 1070 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 2: on our end of it in these guys, like the 1071 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 2: coaches and like you guys do, is his unique personal life. 1072 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 2: He's got a wife and child. I mean, he's a 1073 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 2: he seems like about six or seven years further down 1074 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 2: the road than maybe what you'd think a college kid 1075 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 2: would be. 1076 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 4: Well, let me give you example. Grace. 1077 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 12: His wife, Grace worked force, beautiful, beautiful person, beautiful in 1078 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:26,360 Speaker 12: every way, parents the same same way. He went and 1079 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 12: with some of his nil money bought a home and 1080 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 12: he sold it. 1081 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 4: He's just an older guy. 1082 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 12: But I attribute that to his family, his upbringing, and 1083 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 12: I and Grace and her family and and uh, but they. 1084 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 4: Came in here. 1085 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 12: Grace, you know, was with him at LSU, and she 1086 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,240 Speaker 12: didn't think too much of Arkansas. You know, in the recruiting, 1087 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 12: I've recruited her harder than him, to be honest, and 1088 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 12: and she worked here in the building. But I just 1089 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 12: attribute all what he is and and to his maturity, 1090 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 12: but also to the family and the upbringing. 1091 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 1: I want to take you back to the twenty twenty 1092 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 1: three season for a second, if I could, coach Landon 1093 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 1: has a huge game against Alabama, career high eleven tackles, 1094 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: three and a half sacks in that game, you guys 1095 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,280 Speaker 1: almost won that game. What do you remember most about 1096 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: his performance specifically in that game? 1097 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 12: Just a physicality and I think he's he's like that. 1098 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 12: I mean, I think he plays up in the opponents, 1099 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 12: you know, if you can hype up the tackle that 1100 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 12: he's over and all that. I think he plays his game, 1101 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 12: goes up against a bigger opponents, and I just remember 1102 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 12: they couldn't block him, you know, and gave us a 1103 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 12: chance to win the game there at the end. Unfortunately 1104 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,839 Speaker 12: we didn't, but I can remember him being all over 1105 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 12: the field, and that guy, that guy that I thought 1106 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 12: that he would be the entire time he was here. 1107 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 12: Was kind of a breakthrough game for him. 1108 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 2: Actually, well, we know that, you guys, you're never not busy. 1109 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 2: I know, your neck deep in it. How soon do 1110 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 2: you start thinking about Alabama A and M on August thirtieth, 1111 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 2: You guys start to wind up for that pretty quick. 1112 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 4: Well, I wish we could. 1113 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 12: We have a few more scholarships left, have a couple 1114 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 12: of guys coming in today and tomorrow, but I'd like 1115 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 12: to get it wrapped up by the weekend if we can, 1116 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 12: and then head to obviously spring recruiting with the coaches 1117 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 12: and I can have time to start doing a little 1118 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 12: bit more breakdowns over our first three opponents. 1119 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 4: But it's just you know. 1120 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 12: With the calendar how it is and the portal being 1121 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,919 Speaker 12: open after spring ball, which is still very very confusing 1122 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 12: to me and a lot of coaches. I'm sure, but 1123 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 12: you know, don't You have spring ball to complete your 1124 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 12: team and then the portal opens, then you have to 1125 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 12: figure it out. So it doesn't make a lot of 1126 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 12: sense to me. But anyway, we'll get on that. We 1127 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 12: still got probably through this weekend and then hopefully we're 1128 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 12: settled in a little bit. 1129 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: Coach, I wanted to touch on something you mentioned about 1130 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: Landon as a leader two years a captain like you 1131 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 1: don't see that terribly often. What do you feel it 1132 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 1: was that made him such an effective and respected captain 1133 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: amongst his teammates the last two years. 1134 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 12: Well, I think you have to have the work ethic, 1135 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 12: you know. I don't think you can lead with your mouth. 1136 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 12: I think you have to lead with whom you are 1137 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 12: and your every day and your accountability. And I think 1138 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 12: that's exactly who he is. Now, what does a good 1139 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 12: leader do? He talks? Now, when he talks, he has 1140 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 12: to back it out up. But the first thing he 1141 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 12: has to earn respect, And I think he has respect 1142 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 12: from everybody in this state, including is obviously his teammates 1143 00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 12: and his coaching staff. 1144 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: And then the last one I got coach because I 1145 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 1: think this gets lost sometimes people see, oh, what position 1146 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: does he play, and they just only think defense. But 1147 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 1: I know, you use this guy on special teams. You know, 1148 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 1: you see a guy this long, it's like, get him 1149 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: out there on field goal block and I think he 1150 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 1: blocked a couple for you in his career, right. 1151 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 4: Well he did, Yeah, he blocked one. 1152 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 12: Yeah, he did a big one against Auburn a couple 1153 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 12: of years back. 1154 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,280 Speaker 4: And yeah. 1155 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 12: I mean, and those are things that a lot of guys, 1156 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 12: you're superstars or your better guys on the team, a 1157 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 12: lot of them, it's very, very difficult to get them 1158 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 12: to play on special teams. But as we've seen with Landing, 1159 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:40,320 Speaker 12: it helped him. Isaac Tesla, who who went to Detroit Lions. 1160 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 12: I think it had a lot to do with their 1161 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 12: special teams play. I've put him in there. We had 1162 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 12: a guy here named Dan Skipper. He's playing for the 1163 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,919 Speaker 12: Lions now and he blocked four or five and when 1164 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 12: he was here, and they're doing the same thing out there, 1165 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 12: So I think special teams value is huge. And if 1166 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 12: he can block a big Phiel goal for the Bills 1167 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 12: and win a big game. You know, I text him, 1168 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 12: and you know he was disappointed. We went down there 1169 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,439 Speaker 12: for the first round and he was disappointed, and heck, 1170 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 12: everybody would be. All been through that, Steve, I mean, 1171 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 12: you guys been through that. 1172 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 5: And and. 1173 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 12: I text him and I said, you know, Lord works 1174 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 12: in a lot of different ways. You just went to 1175 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 12: a team that has a chance, a huge chance to 1176 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 12: win the Super Bowl. And uh, I think that meant 1177 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 12: more to him, to be honest with you, than what round, 1178 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 12: what pick he was picked. I think he wanted to 1179 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 12: go to the Bills, and I think that always makes 1180 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 12: us all better when we want to be somewhere. 1181 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 2: Well, coach is sure. We appreciate you taking some time. 1182 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 2: I know how it is busy. 1183 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: It is. 1184 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,439 Speaker 2: You guys just finished up spring ball and you got 1185 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 2: scholarships you're trying to award. Good luck with that, good 1186 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 2: luck to the Razorbacks. We'll be watching, guys. 1187 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 4: Appreciate you. 1188 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1189 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: That's head coach Sam Pittman and the Arkansas Razorbacks joining 1190 01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 1: us talking a little land in Jackson. And it's nice 1191 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 1: to know that there's some I mean, I think we 1192 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 1: all assumed there was some ceiling still for Landing to 1193 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 1: reach here at the NFL level as he learns more 1194 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 1: about the game here, this scheme he's going to be 1195 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 1: playing in here and all of that, but hearing some 1196 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 1: of the strides he made as a college player year 1197 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: over year is encouraging to hear, particularly to get off 1198 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 1: you see, Yeah. 1199 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 2: You see some of the stuff that from early in 1200 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 2: his career, and he's a guy that transferred obviously from 1201 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 2: LSU to Arkansas, and just how different of a player 1202 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 2: he was at the end of his career than he 1203 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 2: was at the beginning. And that's way it is for 1204 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 2: a lot of, you know, football players, but a guy 1205 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 2: like him who kind of grew into it and just 1206 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 2: became so much more polished and productive. It takes a 1207 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 2: lot of want to to make that happen. It's not 1208 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 2: just something that you physically get bigger, like most guys 1209 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 2: do between their eighteenth and twentieth second birthday, But you 1210 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 2: got to it's hard work, man, And to see these guys, 1211 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 2: the difference in them, you can tell they've put some 1212 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 2: time in on it. 1213 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean even Landed on the conference call 1214 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: with the Buffalo media right after he got drafted. You know, 1215 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: people are asking him, you know, what are your other interests, 1216 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: hobbies and everything, and he's like, I'm pretty much all 1217 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: football and then come home to my wife and my dog. 1218 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 1: That's all I do. So if that ain't right up 1219 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 1: the alley of Bill's DNA, I don't know what is like. 1220 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Guy's married, already settled down, he's got his microdoodle dog, 1221 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 1: and it's football and going home. 1222 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all he does. These guys. Yeah, he is 1223 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 2: immersed in it. We're gonna we're gonna get a look 1224 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 2: at him, a heart long, hard look. We're gonna get 1225 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 2: to know him over the next few months and watch 1226 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 2: him practice. I can't wait to see training camp start 1227 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 2: and see that, you know, the rookie of mini camp, 1228 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 2: the whole thing. It'll be really interesting to see this 1229 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,440 Speaker 2: rookie class take place. And it's nice to hear a 1230 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 2: head coach at his university speak so highly of him, 1231 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,120 Speaker 2: not just him, but his intent. 1232 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: Jibs the pride of Texar Canada. That's where he's from, 1233 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: Texars Canada, Texas, which I had to look up because 1234 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure which state Texarkana was in. 1235 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 2: It's in both right. So he is right on the 1236 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,440 Speaker 2: edge of Texas and Arkansas. 1237 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,080 Speaker 1: Okay, because he's listed as Texar Canada Texas. But I 1238 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 1: guess that town stretches over both state. 1239 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 2: Over the state life a little bit like Kansas City. 1240 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 2: It's Kansas Corner, you know, and stuff. So there's yeah, 1241 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 2: all right, see that. 1242 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:26,920 Speaker 1: Look, I'm learning stuff every day. 1243 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 2: If you watch the old movie Smoking the Band, that 1244 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 2: you'll understand what Texas. 1245 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: I didn't remember that part of the movie. I was 1246 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 1: a young buck back then. But I'll have to watch 1247 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 1: it again at some point. 1248 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Texarkana is right on the border, the eastern border 1249 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 2: of Texas, right at the Arkansas part of it, right 1250 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 2: there in the corner. Yep. 1251 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,439 Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, I'll have to take it. I should 1252 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 1: have looked at it on a man the name. Yeah, no, 1253 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 1: I I figured as much, but I didn't realize the 1254 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 1: actual towns stretches. 1255 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 2: I've never been there. 1256 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, but you're from at least that region, 1257 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 1: so to speak. I was talking certainly more than I am. 1258 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: I was just before we came on. When I was 1259 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 1: talking to coach. 1260 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 2: He went to Pittsburgh State University, which is in Pittsburgh, Kansas. 1261 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 1: Brian Mormon School. 1262 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 2: Brian Mormon's School, and also, you know, I knew a 1263 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 2: couple of guys who went there. It's about an hour 1264 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 2: hour and a half from where my family lives there 1265 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 2: in Wichita. There, it's about two hour drive from Wichita. 1266 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 2: And it's just on the Kansas side of the Arkansas 1267 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 2: line too, so it's yeah, so he's yeah, he's yeah. 1268 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:25,959 Speaker 1: I didn't imagine it to a coach, but I think 1269 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 1: Landon Jackson was like my favorite pick of the entire 1270 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,520 Speaker 1: draft class because of the value I felt he represented 1271 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 1: for the Bills. I thought he was going to be 1272 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 1: a top sixty pick, and the Bills get him at 1273 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 1: seventy two and round three, and then I just think 1274 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: the ceiling there is pretty encouraging, and knowing the work 1275 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 1: ethic that comes with it. Havn't just talked to coach. 1276 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 2: And he was getting if he was sitting by his phone, 1277 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 2: he was a little disappointed when the first round ended. 1278 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,360 Speaker 2: You know, he was getting some really positive feedback from teams, 1279 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 2: and so was his representation well. 1280 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 1: And not only that, because now there's a burr under 1281 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 1: his saddle too to prove people wrong. 1282 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 2: It's kind of the therm and Thomas syndrome, where you know, 1283 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 2: fall asleep on your couch. The next thing you know, 1284 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 2: you're putting on a gold jacket. I'm not saying that's 1285 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 2: with land and Jackson, but that's what happened to them. 1286 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 2: You know. 1287 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but that fire was burning within because he's like, dude, 1288 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm better than the fortieth pick, and Landing clearly thinks 1289 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: he's better than the seventy second pick. 1290 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,360 Speaker 2: It's uh it it means something to guys. 1291 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 1: I want to get back to the phones though. At 1292 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: eight oh three zero five fifty one eighty eight five 1293 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,360 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty, which Bills defensive line veteran will 1294 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 1: be challenged the most by the new additions on the roster. 1295 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 1: We go to Mark in West senecon next what's up Mark? 1296 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 13: By guys? All right today? 1297 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 2: Good good, he. 1298 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 13: I'm jumping on the at all over train here a 1299 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 13: little bit. First of all, I want to say he's 1300 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 13: I believe it's going to be challenged, but he's gonna 1301 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 13: be challenged for playing time. The brain trust of the 1302 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:57,520 Speaker 13: Bills obviously loves Ed, so I don't think he's going anywhere. 1303 01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 13: And if you looked at if you look at the 1304 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 13: defense tackle position. If for some reason they moved AT, 1305 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 13: now you're down to a thirty four year old defensive 1306 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 13: tackle on a lot of young guys. So I don't 1307 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,920 Speaker 13: think that that's going to happen at all. But as 1308 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 13: smart as the situation with Ed, I don't believe Ed's 1309 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 13: lived up to his draft status other than the one 1310 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 13: season and the year that they extended them. I disagreed 1311 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,200 Speaker 13: with that, but like always and Brandon Bean, we trust 1312 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 13: and he did what he thought was right and Ed 1313 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 13: had a monster year and then we've fallen off again. 1314 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 9: So out of all the. 1315 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,680 Speaker 13: Years that's been here, I only think he's really left 1316 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 13: lived up to his status one season. And Chris, if 1317 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 13: I get pushed back on just one comment you made 1318 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 13: when somebody was talking about possibly moving At off the roster, 1319 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 13: I believe he said, you know, I don't believe you 1320 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 13: win by moving talent off the roster, and that is 1321 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 13: one hundred percent true. But I also don't believe you 1322 01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 13: win with sticking with talent that never lives up to 1323 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:03,000 Speaker 13: its talent. So I think it's got a big season here. 1324 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 13: And lastly, I'll leave it with a question if for 1325 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 13: some unforeseen miracle, they did move ed financially? What out 1326 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 13: of the rampiplications to the builds, whether they trade him 1327 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 13: or I don't see them ever outright cutting him. But 1328 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 13: what would be the ramplications was this contract. That's that's 1329 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 13: all I got. 1330 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, no problem, Mark, Yeah, And look, you can push 1331 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 1: back all you want, It doesn't bother me. We're all 1332 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 1: going to have differences of opinion, and yeah, if you're 1333 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 1: not getting the most out of somebody, yeah, and you 1334 01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 1: can't and you've tried everything under the sun and it's 1335 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 1: still not working, Yeah, maybe it is time for a 1336 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 1: change of scenery. I don't see that happening this year. 1337 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 1: Bid in terms of what's at Staken now, they're not. 1338 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 2: Going to cut Ed. 1339 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 1: Well, it's cost I think it's cost prohibitive. 1340 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 2: He's got a thirty one million dollar cap hit, dead 1341 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 2: cap hit this year. Yeah, he's eleven million under the 1342 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 2: on the cap now and after. 1343 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: This year it goes down to twenty one. Right, And 1344 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,840 Speaker 1: you have to make the determination if that's something you 1345 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 1: can stomach. If you're not happy with what you got 1346 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 1: out of him this coming season. 1347 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 2: I get it. We've heard, We've had people call and 1348 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 2: they'll they'll you know, Ed's doing that, and they said, 1349 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 2: you know, when dayque Jones comes back, Ed plays, you know, 1350 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 2: it'll take the pressure off. 1351 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 6: Edit. 1352 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 2: If if you're a guy, maybe a top ten pick 1353 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,720 Speaker 2: like Ed is, he's tenth pick, maybe people expect you 1354 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 2: to be the guy that makes it clear for everybody else. 1355 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 2: You're the guy that gets the double teams. Instead of 1356 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,840 Speaker 2: benefiting from having a good player next to you, you 1357 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 2: should be the guy that's benefiting everybody around you. And 1358 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,759 Speaker 2: that so the conversation has been a little bit reversed. 1359 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,960 Speaker 2: For a guy like Ed, maybe he needs guys around 1360 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 2: him to make him flourish. And some people have a 1361 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,400 Speaker 2: problem with a guy drafted that high being that guy, 1362 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,680 Speaker 2: a guy who benefits from having good players around him, 1363 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 2: and rather than being the good player around that, other 1364 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:50,720 Speaker 2: players benefit and elevate from So I get that. But 1365 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 2: Ed oliver Is is a guy with a high motor. 1366 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,040 Speaker 2: He plays well. The club loves him. And I'll say this, 1367 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,000 Speaker 2: they don't love him for no reason. You know, they 1368 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,880 Speaker 2: didn't extend him for no reason. They like him in 1369 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:03,599 Speaker 2: what he brings to the table. And I don't think 1370 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 2: that's going to change. 1371 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:06,879 Speaker 1: To Chuck in Hamburg. 1372 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,360 Speaker 2: Next, what's up, Chuck, Hey, Chris Steve, nice getting back 1373 01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:10,799 Speaker 2: to you. 1374 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 1: Sure, good to have you. 1375 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1376 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,880 Speaker 14: I think that there's going to be all kinds of 1377 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 14: challenges along the defensive line that goes every spring training camp. 1378 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:29,679 Speaker 14: But my big thing is I think the defensive coaches 1379 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 14: are going to be challenged the most this year because 1380 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,720 Speaker 14: we've had an offense for the last two or three 1381 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 14: years that were good enough to go to the Super Bowl. 1382 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,760 Speaker 14: And I'll give you two examples of what I mean, 1383 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 14: And I know you don't want to talk about the 1384 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,080 Speaker 14: first one, Kyrie Elem and we won't. But what about 1385 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 14: Rousseaul Douglas. He comes over from Green Bay, three or 1386 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:55,840 Speaker 14: four interceptions, a couple forced fumbles, plays out of his mind. 1387 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,600 Speaker 14: What do you do in twenty four. 1388 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, not nearly as much, only. 1389 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 14: Because of the scheme that he was playing in and 1390 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 14: whether he wasn't developed enough or coached up enough to 1391 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:13,800 Speaker 14: play in that scheme. I think that's why the defensive 1392 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 14: unit is going to be challenged this year. 1393 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I get what you're saying, Chuck, in 1394 01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 1: terms of Rasoul specifically, I just don't think his physical 1395 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,320 Speaker 1: skill set matches up with the way they feel they 1396 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 1: have to play nowadays, you have to be able as 1397 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:31,879 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator to have the freedom to call whatever 1398 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,320 Speaker 1: it is you feel is best to call against an opponent. Now, 1399 01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,240 Speaker 1: naturally you cater that to the strength of your players, 1400 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,080 Speaker 1: and I think that unfortunately, as the season wore on 1401 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 1: and the pass rush was ineffective and you had to 1402 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,440 Speaker 1: play more man coverage on the back end, Rasoul Douglas 1403 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 1: suddenly became a square peg in a round hole. And 1404 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 1: going forward, I think they determined that they had to 1405 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:59,679 Speaker 1: get a corner that was scheme versatile, play call versatile, 1406 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 1: where you could call anything under the sun, and that 1407 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,479 Speaker 1: player had a skill set to execute it, whether it 1408 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 1: was a man coverage call, offman, press, press, bail, whatever 1409 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 1: it was. That corner was going to be equipped physically 1410 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 1: to execute whatever it is you want to call. It 1411 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,720 Speaker 1: gives your defensive coordinator more freedom, the ability to be 1412 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,720 Speaker 1: more creative, and I just think they felt that Rasul's 1413 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,599 Speaker 1: skill set left them limited with what they could call 1414 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 1: on the back end. I hope that makes sense. 1415 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with Brownie. The defensive scheme is going 1416 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 2: to be and be what year to year, what they 1417 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:42,639 Speaker 2: have the personnel to run within every scheme. You've got 1418 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 2: the ability to do a lot of different things, but 1419 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,439 Speaker 2: you're limited on the calls you make because some of 1420 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 2: your players can't execute it. That's the only thing that 1421 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 2: limits what the defensive scheme is going to be and 1422 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 2: whatever the philosophy is going to be this year. I 1423 01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 2: don't think they know yet. I don't think they've said it. 1424 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,719 Speaker 2: I think they're going to find out who does what best, 1425 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,960 Speaker 2: and they're going to play to the player to what 1426 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,639 Speaker 2: their players can do best. When you let your players 1427 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,800 Speaker 2: play in a scheme or system or a defensive call 1428 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:15,120 Speaker 2: that they can really get after that fits their skill set, 1429 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,559 Speaker 2: that's where you want to be as a coach coaching staff, 1430 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 2: defensive or offensive. So you can bet that's what they're 1431 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,400 Speaker 2: going to try and do with this crew. And they 1432 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 2: don't know who that's going to be yet. I mean, 1433 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,800 Speaker 2: they've just drafted nine new guys. 1434 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 1: But Max Harrison is a player just to use as 1435 01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:35,000 Speaker 1: a contrasting example to that of Rasull Douglas. Max Harrison 1436 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,599 Speaker 1: is not only a player equipped with the physical traits 1437 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,600 Speaker 1: to play press man, but he also played at Kentucky 1438 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,720 Speaker 1: where they played a lot of different zone concepts. So 1439 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 1: this defensive scheme here in Buffalo has been largely known 1440 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 1: for its zone principles, but last year, actually the last 1441 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 1: two years, we've seen an increase in man coverage calls 1442 01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,679 Speaker 1: within the scope of this defense. So it's very clear 1443 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 1: to us that they needed a scheme versatile corner and 1444 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,599 Speaker 1: Harston fits that to a t. And so I think 1445 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 1: it's going to give him a real chance to be 1446 01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 1: a day one starter because a of his physical skill 1447 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,599 Speaker 1: set and b the experience he got in a zone 1448 01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 1: system at Kentucky. So it really points to him starting 1449 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,479 Speaker 1: if he does everything the right way and it's quick 1450 01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,479 Speaker 1: on the uptake here, I think he's got a very 1451 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,760 Speaker 1: good chance to start because at the end of the day, 1452 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,839 Speaker 1: we can talk all day about bigger, longer, and stronger 1453 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 1: upfront on the defensive line, and the Bills did that 1454 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,639 Speaker 1: with the three defensive linemen that they drafted. It's also 1455 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,439 Speaker 1: a young man's game, especially at cornerback. There aren't too 1456 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,799 Speaker 1: many thirty plus year old corners starting in the NFL 1457 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,160 Speaker 1: these days. I would venture to guess that the vast 1458 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,519 Speaker 1: majority of corners in this league that start on the 1459 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 1: outside are under age thirty. It's a young man's game, 1460 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,719 Speaker 1: and they had to get younger on defense. Unquestionably, Brandon 1461 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 1: being said it himself. We had to get younger on defense. 1462 01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,479 Speaker 1: Their defensive line is five years younger than it was 1463 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,800 Speaker 1: when they walked off the field in Kansas City, So 1464 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,360 Speaker 1: that's not by accident. They felt they had to get 1465 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:07,880 Speaker 1: younger and more athletic. 1466 01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 2: And they did, and they did. We'll see it's Brownie's right. 1467 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,639 Speaker 2: I think when you've got players that are versatile and 1468 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 2: they're all at a level, at a higher level, it's 1469 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,800 Speaker 2: a little bit like the wide receiver room. For this team, 1470 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,679 Speaker 2: you can they don't have a big a big time 1471 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,759 Speaker 2: number one, so the defense has got to decide, okay, 1472 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,639 Speaker 2: on this formation, what are we gonna do defensively. It's 1473 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,559 Speaker 2: the same is true if you've got a guy who 1474 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,240 Speaker 2: who can't run press man to man as well as 1475 01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,200 Speaker 2: you want him to, or the team you're playing has 1476 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,920 Speaker 2: too many guys to match up with manda man press, 1477 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:46,639 Speaker 2: you can't call certain defenses because you're gonna they're gonna 1478 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,240 Speaker 2: do and shift and you're gonna end up in manda 1479 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:52,080 Speaker 2: man press. They'll force it. So it's the same thing. 1480 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,200 Speaker 2: It's on the same side of the it's the same 1481 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,719 Speaker 2: concept on both sides of the ball. That's what happened 1482 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 2: last year. 1483 01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,160 Speaker 1: And I don't want to single out Rashewel Douglass, but 1484 01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 1: the fact is he was getting picked on and targeted 1485 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,280 Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year because to the point I've 1486 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 1: made before, the Bills could not get effective pass rush 1487 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,840 Speaker 1: pressure on quarterbacks rushing just their front four. They had 1488 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,639 Speaker 1: to send five sometimes six. That means more man coverage 1489 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,360 Speaker 1: on the back end, and Rasul Douglas could not hold 1490 01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,880 Speaker 1: up consistently enough in man to man coverage and became 1491 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 1: a victim of opposing passers who were targeting him time 1492 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,280 Speaker 1: and time and time again. You want to know why 1493 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,280 Speaker 1: the Bills couldn't get off the field on third down? 1494 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 1: Pass rush not good enough upfront, man to man coverage, 1495 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,879 Speaker 1: not good enough on the back end. Conversion conversion, conversion, 1496 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:35,719 Speaker 1: can't get off the field. 1497 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,960 Speaker 2: And it was exacerbated of course in the last game 1498 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,679 Speaker 2: of the season when Christian Benford goes down the first series. 1499 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,599 Speaker 2: Now you got your you got your third, fourth, and 1500 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,759 Speaker 2: your fourth and fifth corners in their third and fourth 1501 01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:47,639 Speaker 2: corners in there. 1502 01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 1: It just was not not sustainable for sustainable So yeah, 1503 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:57,280 Speaker 1: that's and that I think that's where we're at right now. 1504 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 1: Break time for us here. When we come back, more 1505 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,719 Speaker 1: your phone calls, and we'll also crack open the tweet sheets. 1506 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,920 Speaker 1: See what you have to say there about which defensive 1507 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,160 Speaker 1: line veteran is going to be challenged the most by 1508 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,479 Speaker 1: the new additions to this roster. Come training camp time 1509 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 1: back in a flash here on One Bill's Live. Stay 1510 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:31,000 Speaker 1: with us back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, 1511 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,720 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, asking you which Bill's defensive line 1512 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,479 Speaker 1: veteran will be challenged the most by the new additions 1513 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,240 Speaker 1: to the Roster're going to crack open the tweet sheet 1514 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,759 Speaker 1: here tweets sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, 1515 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,519 Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. And 1516 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 1: Jeremy leads us off and says, the easy answer is AJ, 1517 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,960 Speaker 1: but the real answer is ed. He's gonna have so 1518 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,240 Speaker 1: much space for more activities on his left and right 1519 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,720 Speaker 1: with all the extra help that he's going to have 1520 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,640 Speaker 1: to relearn a new technique he hasn't seen since being drafted, 1521 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,640 Speaker 1: so he thinks the challenge is more a technique perspective 1522 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,920 Speaker 1: then somebody breathing down his neck as competition. That's an 1523 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:04,200 Speaker 1: interesting perspective there. 1524 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I am. I'm yeah, I get it. We've 1525 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,720 Speaker 2: talked a lot about how ed benefits from having a 1526 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 2: big body next to him. Yeah, and no question about it. 1527 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,479 Speaker 2: It kind of plays to his strengths of penetration and 1528 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,760 Speaker 2: being if he can get If he gets singled up, 1529 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:29,440 Speaker 2: he's a problem. Yes, and we'll see if this upgraded. 1530 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,080 Speaker 2: This attention to the defensive line leads to more production, 1531 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,599 Speaker 2: better players, more problems for the offensive line, less problems 1532 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,360 Speaker 2: for Edah. 1533 01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,920 Speaker 1: Jerry on the tweets Sheet says aj Epanessa will have 1534 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,200 Speaker 1: to fight the most for his playing time. Joey Bosa 1535 01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,919 Speaker 1: will need to stand out to earn another significant contract, 1536 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,759 Speaker 1: either in Buffalo or elsewhere. Yeah, I mean, look, Bosas 1537 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 1: on a one year deal for a little over twelve 1538 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,360 Speaker 1: a year. I think he's gonna be a pass rush specialist. 1539 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,479 Speaker 1: Steve feels like he's gonna have that Von Miller roll. 1540 01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,400 Speaker 1: Maybe he gets a few more snaps than Vaon did 1541 01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:02,679 Speaker 1: because he's coming in healthy anyway, But if he gets 1542 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 1: more than thirty five snaps a game, I'll be surprised. 1543 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 1: I think they want to pace him through the season. 1544 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 1: To get the best out of him, not only in 1545 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,760 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter every week, but in the playoffs most importantly. 1546 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 1: And then yeah, a j Epenessa is gonna be battling 1547 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:19,360 Speaker 1: Land and Jackson for early down work, first and second down. 1548 01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,240 Speaker 1: So if Land and Jackson comes in here and pops 1549 01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,560 Speaker 1: AJ is gonna be inactive right some weeks, you know 1550 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,320 Speaker 1: what I mean, That's what you're looking at. 1551 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,840 Speaker 2: Starts starts to get to a point where somebody's got 1552 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,960 Speaker 2: to sit down. You can't go into a game with 1553 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,360 Speaker 2: you know, ten defensive linemen rotating in. You get you 1554 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:43,439 Speaker 2: need spots other places. So yeah, you're it's it's it's 1555 01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:44,720 Speaker 2: gonna we have to see how it shakes out in 1556 01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:45,400 Speaker 2: the preseason. 1557 01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go back to the phones and to Sean 1558 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,280 Speaker 1: out in Hamburg. What's up, Sean? 1559 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 9: Hey, how's the going guys? 1560 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:53,080 Speaker 1: Good? 1561 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1562 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,080 Speaker 9: I just want good. Yeah. I just wanted to bring 1563 01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:00,400 Speaker 9: up just my thoughts here were between Daycorn Jones and 1564 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 9: and Joey Bosa here mainly because like it seems like 1565 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,720 Speaker 9: day Quon's just had a lot of health issues since 1566 01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,120 Speaker 9: he's been with the Bills, you know, and he's uh, 1567 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 9: you know, getting a little bit older, you know, I 1568 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,559 Speaker 9: think he's thirty three now if I remember correctly, just 1569 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 9: starting to get aged up a little bit. And then 1570 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 9: with Joey Bosa. You know, my thought just being that 1571 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 9: with him coming into the bills, I know he's on 1572 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,080 Speaker 9: a one year deal, and you guys make a great point. 1573 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,600 Speaker 9: He's probably going to be more of that pass rusher specialist. 1574 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,719 Speaker 9: But I think having a lot of young, agile talent 1575 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,320 Speaker 9: around him may push him to go into a second year. 1576 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,599 Speaker 9: So it'd be interesting to see kind of how that 1577 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,200 Speaker 9: battle goes for you know, for those two guys. I'll 1578 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:36,599 Speaker 9: go ahead and hang up and listen to what you got. 1579 01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,320 Speaker 2: I think one thing too, we kind of overlook what 1580 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,920 Speaker 2: happens if Daykuon and Joey both have health issues. At 1581 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:42,960 Speaker 2: least you got enough good place. 1582 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,559 Speaker 1: You know, you got horses. 1583 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 2: You're not going to be scraping someplace to find a body. Yeah, 1584 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 2: you got enough horses to bring him in. So yeah, 1585 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,960 Speaker 2: there's that as well. So it's I don't want to 1586 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,960 Speaker 2: say it's an insurance policy, because I think it's more 1587 01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,600 Speaker 2: than that, but at least you've got some place to 1588 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,320 Speaker 2: go if somebody goes down quickly. 1589 01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,599 Speaker 1: To mention the fact that Michael Hoyd and Larry Ogun 1590 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,200 Speaker 1: Joby you're out of the mix for the first six 1591 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,000 Speaker 1: weeks of the season on suspension, so you're probably gonna 1592 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,160 Speaker 1: need just about everybody. But when those two guys come 1593 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,839 Speaker 1: back healthy as somebody injured and you know on ir 1594 01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,639 Speaker 1: so there's a spot to to, you know, add those 1595 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,800 Speaker 1: guys back or you're gonna have to make another tough 1596 01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:20,040 Speaker 1: to say. 1597 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,200 Speaker 2: You really hope it's you really hope it's a huge 1598 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,000 Speaker 2: problem in six six weeks into the season. You really hope. 1599 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,400 Speaker 2: It's like, Wow, what are we gonna we don't need? 1600 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a good Dylan, What are. 1601 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:31,599 Speaker 2: We gonna do? We don't want to. We don't want 1602 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 2: to upset this apple cart with the way things are 1603 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,559 Speaker 2: going right now by bringing in Hoyt or Ogan Joby. 1604 01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,960 Speaker 2: You hope that's probably a good problem. 1605 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Joey. On the tweet, she says day Kwon Jones 1606 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,639 Speaker 1: and Zion Log Dai Kwon's thirty three and a big 1607 01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,120 Speaker 1: salary cap hit and I watch your show every day 1608 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,000 Speaker 1: and follow the bills religiously, and I don't think I've 1609 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,880 Speaker 1: ever heard his name before go Bills. Yeah, we've mentioned 1610 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,160 Speaker 1: Zion Log here and there. You know, he was a 1611 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,880 Speaker 1: waiver pick up from the Falcons last year when they 1612 01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 1: were a little short handed on the interior. And he 1613 01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,680 Speaker 1: is a big body as well. And still, you know, 1614 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:09,479 Speaker 1: a young player, So you know, does he make the roster? 1615 01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,439 Speaker 1: Is he on the practice squad? We'll have to wait 1616 01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,639 Speaker 1: and see. But yeah, day Quon, I believe he turns 1617 01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,160 Speaker 1: thirty four, if not before the season, sometime during the season, 1618 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,880 Speaker 1: and he's gonna get pushed. He'll get pushed by Zion 1619 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,200 Speaker 1: log Let alone, Dion Walker and TJ. Sanders and Dwayne Carter. 1620 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,040 Speaker 1: So there is a youth movement afoot here with Buffalo's 1621 01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 1: defensive line, and it's not by accident. Will on the 1622 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,519 Speaker 1: tweets sheet says, I see a lot of AJ and 1623 01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,479 Speaker 1: I don't get it. He's our backup defensive end if 1624 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,720 Speaker 1: Bosa doesn't stay healthier and he needs rest. Landon is 1625 01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,519 Speaker 1: a rookie and Hoyd is suspended. Why isn't it The 1626 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,720 Speaker 1: two veteran dts love Daequon, but him and Larry have 1627 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,920 Speaker 1: to fight off top have to fight off three top 1628 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 1: four round picks from the last two drafts. Math doesn't math, 1629 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,559 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's all across the front. 1630 01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you forget about how much, and we don't 1631 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:03,840 Speaker 2: know what they think about Dwayne Carter. If Dwayne Carter 1632 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,240 Speaker 2: comes back and they're liking him a little bit more 1633 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,599 Speaker 2: than they had higher hopes for him than they did 1634 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,280 Speaker 2: dayk one, or they thought he was gonna supplant Day 1635 01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,800 Speaker 2: one last year, then you know, we don't know that 1636 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:15,320 Speaker 2: it was possible. 1637 01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,519 Speaker 1: I will say it was interesting because Brandon Bean after 1638 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,759 Speaker 1: night two of the draft, maybe it was even after 1639 01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,960 Speaker 1: ninth three. I'm trying to remember. I'm getting my days 1640 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,439 Speaker 1: mixed up here, but TJ. Sanders was on the ross. Yeah, 1641 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,519 Speaker 1: I think it was Day three, so you already had 1642 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:33,240 Speaker 1: two defensive tackles on the defensive end drafted. And people 1643 01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,760 Speaker 1: are saying, what does this mean for Dwayne Carter? Does 1644 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,840 Speaker 1: he still play three technique? With TJ. Sanders and Ed 1645 01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:43,400 Speaker 1: Oliver also playing that same role? And Bean gave indication 1646 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,640 Speaker 1: that Dwayne Carter might play a little more one technique 1647 01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,519 Speaker 1: and maybe put a little weight on because he played 1648 01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,240 Speaker 1: I think at three zho two last year, might have 1649 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,439 Speaker 1: to play at three ten, three fifteen this year. If 1650 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna move him to a one technique role more 1651 01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 1: of the time. So that was a little eye opening. 1652 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:01,160 Speaker 1: If they talk about it. 1653 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:02,679 Speaker 2: If they were going to do that, they he's already 1654 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:04,599 Speaker 2: working on that. They they told him that last year 1655 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,040 Speaker 2: at the end of the season, the postseason at exit interviews, 1656 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,480 Speaker 2: that they were thinking that's what their plan would be. 1657 01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 1: Be interesting to see how that shakes. We might have 1658 01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:14,080 Speaker 1: gotten up. 1659 01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 2: We might have gotten win to that even by now. 1660 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,000 Speaker 2: So I don't know, but you're right that you look 1661 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,519 Speaker 2: back at that Houston game and how well he played 1662 01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,640 Speaker 2: in it. There's just so much about last year that 1663 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,960 Speaker 2: we don't know think about it. Dwayne Carter went down, 1664 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,200 Speaker 2: had that wrist injury, missed him, and then he was 1665 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 2: never the same. Keon wrist injury came back, kend Of 1666 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,800 Speaker 2: wasn't the same, d written Jlon Smooth got injured too, 1667 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,919 Speaker 2: right when, right when Keon and Dwayne Carter were starting 1668 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,720 Speaker 2: to like, Okay, I'm getting this, both of them get 1669 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:48,640 Speaker 2: a wrist injury and they're done for a month. Just 1670 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,880 Speaker 2: completely derailed there there, right and right. 1671 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,559 Speaker 1: When they still scored thirty points a game. 1672 01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,400 Speaker 2: That's right and right when they were starting, right when 1673 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,000 Speaker 2: those two guys were starting to like get it. You know, 1674 01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:59,800 Speaker 2: when we were thinking, all right, here he is, let's go. 1675 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,679 Speaker 2: Now they just appear for a month. It's like stunted 1676 01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,760 Speaker 2: their growth. And yeah, you're right. I mean Keon was 1677 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,240 Speaker 2: one thing, but you know, the team scored thirty points 1678 01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:13,040 Speaker 2: with him without him anyway, So that's why. Yeah, don't 1679 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,360 Speaker 2: get me started, Jacob. 1680 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,280 Speaker 1: On the tweet, she says snap percent for Bosa will 1681 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,960 Speaker 1: be most impacted by this added depth. Strategically be able 1682 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,360 Speaker 1: to keep him on a lower snap count forty to 1683 01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,280 Speaker 1: fifty percent of the snaps or so, to keep him 1684 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,200 Speaker 1: healthy for the playoff run. Yeah, we've been talking about 1685 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,679 Speaker 1: that today. I think we envision him in a pass 1686 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:35,519 Speaker 1: rush specialist role, which I think in our estimation is 1687 01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,760 Speaker 1: somewhere between thirty and thirty five snaps a game, which 1688 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 1: means you need somebody as a base defensive end, whether 1689 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:45,479 Speaker 1: that's Epanessa, whether that's Landon Jackson or somebody else. It's 1690 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,400 Speaker 1: not going to be Bosa, I think in an ideal world, 1691 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,920 Speaker 1: and you keep him fresh, he plays seventeen games, less 1692 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 1: risk of injury because he's playing fewer snaps, he's not 1693 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,439 Speaker 1: getting as fatigued. Sometimes guys get hurt just when they're 1694 01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,360 Speaker 1: fatigued because they can't execute with the same TECHNI Acre. 1695 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,440 Speaker 1: Maybe they're stretching and leaning more in a way they shouldn't, 1696 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,280 Speaker 1: and then they become more susceptible to injury. You reduce 1697 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,920 Speaker 1: his snapcount, you get a fresher, more effective boast on 1698 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,320 Speaker 1: pass rush and less risk of injury. I think that's 1699 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,800 Speaker 1: probably going to be his plan, or the plan of 1700 01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,720 Speaker 1: the defensive steps sound into the season. 1701 01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,960 Speaker 2: At all sounds great. We don't know exactly what we're thinking, 1702 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,800 Speaker 2: but educating it makes some sense obviously. 1703 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,200 Speaker 1: Jack on the tweet, he says, I'd say AJ Epanessa 1704 01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,000 Speaker 1: not sure they'll have room for five defensive ends and 1705 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,320 Speaker 1: one suspended. Jackson is a similar player, maybe more athletic. 1706 01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,400 Speaker 1: AJ is good but hasn't offered anything special. With a 1707 01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,680 Speaker 1: good camp, Jackson could push AJ right out. Adding two 1708 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:42,200 Speaker 1: new defensive tackles and one suspended could also push the 1709 01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,519 Speaker 1: aging day Kwon Jones. 1710 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,880 Speaker 2: We've gone down this road, Brown and I in our 1711 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 2: little quiet conversations in the office about you know, if 1712 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,520 Speaker 2: if something like this does happen, you've got to think. 1713 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,559 Speaker 2: Even if it's Land and Jackson and they're trying to 1714 01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,840 Speaker 2: make a decision, it's Landon Jackson or it's Aj at Panessa, 1715 01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:05,360 Speaker 2: or is it an embarrassment or do you have a 1716 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,200 Speaker 2: good enough player there to trade him? Knowing that you 1717 01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,000 Speaker 2: can't hide Aj, you don't want to hide Landing. 1718 01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,280 Speaker 1: And you also don't want to lose one of them 1719 01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:13,719 Speaker 1: for nothing. 1720 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to just turn them loose and 1721 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,080 Speaker 2: let them go sign somewhere else. 1722 01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:20,960 Speaker 1: And possibly start even and that and starting there could 1723 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,720 Speaker 1: be starting caliber players on both of these lines for 1724 01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:25,840 Speaker 1: the Bills can't make the roster. 1725 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,599 Speaker 2: Vander Mark played his lights out in the one game 1726 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,000 Speaker 2: he started in last year. Let's not forget was the 1727 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,120 Speaker 2: most important regular season game the Bills played. It was 1728 01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:36,720 Speaker 2: the Chiefs game well, and he played well for That's 1729 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 2: the game the only game Spencer Brown's missed in two years. 1730 01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,320 Speaker 2: He played well in a game they won by nine. 1731 01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,760 Speaker 2: So you know, Vandermark's got the chops to play for 1732 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,920 Speaker 2: some people. It's the same thing with Aj. You think 1733 01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,760 Speaker 2: Aj Apanessa the physical gifts Alan will get him make 1734 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,320 Speaker 2: him valuable to other teams. Same thing with Landon. So 1735 01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,479 Speaker 2: some of these guys, I mean, you start looking around, 1736 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:03,200 Speaker 2: it's like who's gonna be available? You don't want to. 1737 01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,400 Speaker 2: You don't want to just outright release these guys, and 1738 01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,280 Speaker 2: you can't. You can only protect them so much, so 1739 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,240 Speaker 2: you don't want to throw You know, you got these 1740 01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:11,960 Speaker 2: all these assets. You don't want to throw them away. 1741 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,040 Speaker 2: You might have to get something for him, whether it's. 1742 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 1: A future pick or help in some other position. Gotta 1743 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,320 Speaker 1: take a break here. Get some final thoughts on the 1744 01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,680 Speaker 1: tweet sheet in when we return here on one Bill's Live, 1745 01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:41,599 Speaker 1: presented by Colid of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All 1746 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,519 Speaker 1: right back here, I'm unders Live wrapping up a Wednesday edition. 1747 01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,960 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and it's been an 1748 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,280 Speaker 1: interesting topic of discussion. I don't think we were surprised 1749 01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:51,040 Speaker 1: by some of the names we heard today. Which Bill's 1750 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,240 Speaker 1: defensive line veteran will be challenged the most by the 1751 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,040 Speaker 1: new additions to the roster. Final thoughts on the tweet 1752 01:27:56,040 --> 01:28:00,479 Speaker 1: sheet come from Joseph, who says Ajpanessa by Land and Jackson. 1753 01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,240 Speaker 1: While he shows flashes by having one or two great games, 1754 01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,800 Speaker 1: AJ disappears the rest of the season. I can also 1755 01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,880 Speaker 1: see Dai Kwon Jones being pushed once the suspension is up. 1756 01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 1: So the DT from Pittsburgh Larry Ogunjobi and Dion Walker 1757 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:17,759 Speaker 1: give him a run. Ogun Joby is barely younger than Daikwon. 1758 01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,280 Speaker 1: He's a He's gonna be a nine year veteran this year, 1759 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,160 Speaker 1: but he is younger. And as we mentioned, day Kwon 1760 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 1: is going to turn thirty four and down in the trenches. Man, 1761 01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:27,240 Speaker 1: it is hard work. 1762 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,800 Speaker 2: And Hoyt is a guy that gave a three year 1763 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,479 Speaker 2: deal to and they knew about the suspensions, so they 1764 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:37,280 Speaker 2: really liked Hoyt and went out and got him and 1765 01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,160 Speaker 2: did not mind that he was going to lose the 1766 01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,280 Speaker 2: first six games of the season, and they gave him 1767 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,799 Speaker 2: a three year deal, so they they really think Hoyt's 1768 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:45,840 Speaker 2: got some good football left in him, right. 1769 01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:50,400 Speaker 1: And I don't want to call it an embarrassment of riches, 1770 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,800 Speaker 1: but man, is this a good problem to have? And 1771 01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:58,920 Speaker 1: and I don't think they're done necessarily adding defensive lineman Steve, 1772 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,639 Speaker 1: because you go to camp before the draft, they had seven. 1773 01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,320 Speaker 1: They've added three, they got ten, they got a couple 1774 01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,960 Speaker 1: of more undrafted. It's probably up to like twelve. Probably 1775 01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,200 Speaker 1: want to add a few more bodies there just for 1776 01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,720 Speaker 1: training camp, you know, knowing the battle of attrition that 1777 01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,880 Speaker 1: can be so you know, they still have some room 1778 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,080 Speaker 1: to get to ninety. 1779 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,679 Speaker 2: Yeah on the list that they've got. Tentatively, they've got 1780 01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:22,280 Speaker 2: three on the list, so. 1781 01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,320 Speaker 1: We'll see maybe a tryout player gets signed, you know 1782 01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:26,880 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. 1783 01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows. But none of these guys on the 1784 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:34,320 Speaker 2: undrafted free agent list is officially you don't even know. 1785 01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, not until they come in here past their physicals 1786 01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,200 Speaker 1: and then sign on the dotted line and then we'll 1787 01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,600 Speaker 1: know for rookie mini camp and then OTAs and the like. 1788 01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:44,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's coming and it's coming fast. 1789 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,720 Speaker 2: Interesting too, there's gonna be somebody that pops out of 1790 01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,799 Speaker 2: this undrafted rookie free agent class, whether it's whatever position. 1791 01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:51,719 Speaker 2: There always is. 1792 01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,280 Speaker 1: Yep, there's always a chance of that happening. That's it 1793 01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,280 Speaker 1: for our Wednesday edition. Steve and I back here tomorrow. 1794 01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,240 Speaker 1: Got a nice lineup for you. We'll share it with 1795 01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:08,600 Speaker 1: you tomorrow here one Bills Live. We'll see you one 1796 01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:09,519 Speaker 1: mm hm