WEBVTT - Derek Stingley, Jr. in studio, plus, ore O-Line help added | Texans All Access

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<v Speaker 1>What's happened? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Wednesday to you, A beautiful day wherever you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because you're listening to this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Texans All Access, John Harrison, Mark Vandermiir here with you

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<v Speaker 2>in the Hyundai Texans Radio studio.

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<v Speaker 1>News broke this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>The Texans have added an offensive lineman, a left tackle

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<v Speaker 2>to big Zach cam Robinson from the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark and I are going to react to that. After

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<v Speaker 1>we talked to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Recently extended Derek Stingley Junior, All Pro staying was in

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<v Speaker 2>the house. He's been in the house. He's been in

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<v Speaker 2>this building, I think every day since the offseason, been

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<v Speaker 2>working out.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him yesterday in Hallway.

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<v Speaker 2>He and about thirty other guys are here working out,

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<v Speaker 2>and he stopped by after doing all the press conferencing

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<v Speaker 2>and all that kind of stuff, and we had a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to chat. We chat about his family, becoming a

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<v Speaker 2>really good tackler and becoming all pro sting, but wants

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<v Speaker 2>you to keep your ear off for this. I asked

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<v Speaker 2>him about his interception against Tyreek. You talk about a

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<v Speaker 2>guy with recall football IQ, Derek Stingley Junior has that.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my conversation with all prosting my man guy wanted

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<v Speaker 2>all along twenty twenty two. In fact, I actually wanted

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<v Speaker 2>you wait before that. I don't know if I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>told you the story. Derek Stingley Junior in studio twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked in the studio. We were having trouble covering

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<v Speaker 2>people and I walked in. I said to Mark, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, man, I wish we had that kid from LSU.

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes, he goes who Stingley? I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, well, year is he? He's a true

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<v Speaker 2>fresh and we gotta wait. And I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not gonna get him anyways. Long behold you end

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<v Speaker 2>up here in Houston. Derek has been one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best things for the franchise. You get the extension, he

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<v Speaker 2>signed the extension. First of all, how do you feel

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<v Speaker 2>just to kind of have I don't know if that

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<v Speaker 2>was weighing on you at all, but just to have

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<v Speaker 2>that done it over with, how's it feel?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it feels great.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad to be a part of this team for

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<v Speaker 3>you know more tom Oh, hopefully you know a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit longer. And I'm just ready to get back to

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<v Speaker 3>work to keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>So I saw you in the hallway two days after

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<v Speaker 2>you're signing extension.

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<v Speaker 1>You're out there working with a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bunch of guys, and you've got more guys here seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>in the building at this time of year than ever before.

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned it in the Ryan Clark podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You talked about setting a standard that Nico the year before,

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<v Speaker 2>you saw what he went through and you wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to set a standard.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was that important to you for this organization?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, really, like, like you said, Nico was already here

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<v Speaker 3>doing all that, So like that standards is already set.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, I was just trying to keep up

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<v Speaker 3>with how things operate around here and hopefully more people

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<v Speaker 3>just do that on a consistent basis.

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<v Speaker 1>You get drafted in twenty twenty two, not very good.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty two, the Miko comes in, you get

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<v Speaker 2>a few more players to come in.

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<v Speaker 1>Things change. You saw it before you see it now.

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<v Speaker 2>What's kind of been the biggest thing you think in

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<v Speaker 2>the transformation of this organization, Derek.

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<v Speaker 1>In your opinion, you actually like like on the like.

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<v Speaker 2>Just from the team perspective, what's been different from when

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<v Speaker 2>you got here to what it is now?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, really, I think that the group of guys that

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<v Speaker 3>we got or that we had on the team last

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<v Speaker 3>year and the year before that just like an immediate

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<v Speaker 3>like almost like a chemistry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing played into that, like going through the workouts before

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<v Speaker 3>the season started, like you can already see like you

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<v Speaker 3>you know how to talk to your teammates, and then

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<v Speaker 3>by the time you get on the field start doing practice,

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<v Speaker 3>then that's where you start seeing like like how people

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<v Speaker 3>are when they come to competition on the field. And

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<v Speaker 3>then by the time we get to the actual games,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like everybody's already clicking in. And I mean you

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<v Speaker 3>just see that from the from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>So I grew up about thirty minutes from here. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad was my coach. My dad had a way getting

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<v Speaker 2>kind of tough on me. I know, your dad coached

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<v Speaker 2>you for a long time, and when my dad got

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<v Speaker 2>tough on me, I always had moms.

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<v Speaker 1>That was there.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people talk about your dad and

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<v Speaker 2>the impact, but what about your moms being there for

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<v Speaker 2>you throughout this entire journey as much.

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<v Speaker 1>As your dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean without without her, Like I mean it's

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<v Speaker 3>saying it's the same for both, Like if without what

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<v Speaker 3>they do, I wouldn't be sitting right here right now,

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<v Speaker 3>like like yeah, with my dad a lot working out

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, just you know football and it really

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<v Speaker 3>is more than.

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<v Speaker 1>Football, but like talking about but yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah with football with him, and then with my mom

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<v Speaker 3>is like you know, like you see the family side

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<v Speaker 3>of like like her side of her family, like how

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<v Speaker 3>they always together, how they always you know, communicating and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. So I mean it's different levels to

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<v Speaker 3>what they do. And I mean a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>don't have that, but I got it so.

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<v Speaker 1>To help support system man.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're the only two people that get to the

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<v Speaker 2>stadium before any of us too, which I think it's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen him in every single stadium before I get there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm one of the first uh to get there.

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<v Speaker 2>One of things I love doing with you is talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the game. We talk about things that have happened

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<v Speaker 2>in the game, Like you can give me the details

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<v Speaker 2>and everything. We after Jacksonville game and you had an

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<v Speaker 2>interception and you gave me a whole breakdown of what

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<v Speaker 2>happened against Brian Thomas. So I'm gonna give you my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite interception and I want you to tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened December.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifteenth, twenty twenty four, fourth down against Miami Dolphins. The

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<v Speaker 2>first interception when you're one on one on Tyreek Hill,

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<v Speaker 2>the one in the south end zone or near the

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<v Speaker 2>south end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Take me through that play and what happened? You remember?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you got the recall. Yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 3>On that play, I think it was either to play

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<v Speaker 3>before or to play or two plays before that he

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<v Speaker 3>ran He took an outside release and ran a dig

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<v Speaker 3>and he caught the ball for a first down, and

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<v Speaker 3>that that really the way he ran the route. It

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of weird, like you're not gonna see nobody

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<v Speaker 3>else run that how he runs it, so all right anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's that's that's beforehand.

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<v Speaker 1>So that set it up in your brain. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>that something out right. And then.

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<v Speaker 3>Either the next player or two players after after he

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<v Speaker 3>caught that pass, it was kind of like the shot

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<v Speaker 3>area going into the field, and I kind of like,

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<v Speaker 3>I just had a thought in my mind that he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't going to try to just run past me all

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<v Speaker 3>right here, even though he could have, because we were

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<v Speaker 3>in single high and they had a lot of field

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<v Speaker 3>to work with to like a front pile line throw

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<v Speaker 3>or back pipeline, whichever one they wanted to do. But

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<v Speaker 3>he took the release, and he still he stayed kind

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<v Speaker 3>of vertical off of his first couple of steps, and

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<v Speaker 3>then when he was running like he wouldn't like Tyree,

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<v Speaker 3>he has a specific type of run and how he

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<v Speaker 3>looks when he's running like he But I just had

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<v Speaker 3>a feeling that he was about to break and then

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<v Speaker 3>I just kind of locked in on the hill and

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<v Speaker 3>then once he turned, I turned looked for the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people when they the NFL put out

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<v Speaker 2>a video, if you know, the NFL put out a

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<v Speaker 2>video on Twitter, like three and a half minutes of

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<v Speaker 2>your best plays, going all the way back to your

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<v Speaker 2>game against Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>With your first interception in your career. It was an interception,

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<v Speaker 1>past breakup, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what people miss a lot about you, it's

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<v Speaker 2>how well you play the run and how well you

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<v Speaker 2>come up and how willing you are to come up

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<v Speaker 2>and tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did that kind of start for you? Always?

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<v Speaker 2>Has it always been part of your game that you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take pride and not only cover people but coming

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<v Speaker 2>up and making tackles as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that that kind of well, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>going back to a little kid. Yeah, but once once

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<v Speaker 3>I got into college, my defensive back coach, Cory Raymond,

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<v Speaker 3>he would always say, y'all gotta tackle, y'all gotta y'all

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<v Speaker 3>gotta know how to ta come down and make a

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<v Speaker 3>tackle hit with this shoulder, this foot forward. And he

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<v Speaker 3>would just say that and we would kind of look

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<v Speaker 3>at him like why, like you know, like what's the

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<v Speaker 3>point of us really getting in there and tackling. But

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it turned out that, I mean, to be

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<v Speaker 3>a great, a better corner, you got to show up

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<v Speaker 3>in the run like you gotta you gotta be reliable

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<v Speaker 3>or what's it's just gonna run the ball at you

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<v Speaker 3>thirty times a game and you're not gonna help the

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<v Speaker 3>team if you can't make the tellus.

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<v Speaker 1>And now on the other side of you got this

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<v Speaker 1>young buck. He'll come up and do things.

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<v Speaker 2>And you said, use the word crazy, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of fits with the way Kamari plays and

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<v Speaker 2>Kaaln's back there. Now you're adding CJ to you, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>what are your thoughts about the secondary and what you've

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<v Speaker 2>got now with those two young bucks. Now in the

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<v Speaker 2>second year, you're coming back, JP, coming back healthy, Chauncey

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<v Speaker 2>being added to the mix. What you think about your

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<v Speaker 2>secondary now, I mean I think I think we can

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<v Speaker 2>just keep growing. There's always room to grow, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we had what we how many? Like we all we

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<v Speaker 2>had a couple of sicks each last year?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now that's like twenty I think between y'all. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>but I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know I'm speaking for everybody, and I know that we

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<v Speaker 3>all dropped some interceptions like we all Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't gonna say it's gonna let you say.

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<v Speaker 3>We all dropped a light, like we left a lot

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<v Speaker 3>out there on the field. So I mean, just getting

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<v Speaker 3>back to the to the basics of fundamentals like why,

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<v Speaker 3>why did that happen? Why did this happen? And just

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<v Speaker 3>going out there and probably getting like thirty each.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to ask you about the commitment from the organization,

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<v Speaker 2>from the McNair's on down, making that commitment to you

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<v Speaker 2>for the next how many every years? And you said

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<v Speaker 2>it on the podcast. You want to be in Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a lot of us, we want to be in Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when we see players that say we love

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<v Speaker 2>Houston so much, we want to be here that you

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<v Speaker 2>you're endearing yourself to us, but the organization has been

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<v Speaker 2>endeared to you from the McNair's on down.

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<v Speaker 1>How does it feel that they make the commitment to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it feels great, and I mean I want

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<v Speaker 3>to thank thank the McNair's for having me here, believing

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<v Speaker 3>in me since I since I before I got here. Them,

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Cerio, the Miko Dino, see like everybody, everybody. That's

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<v Speaker 3>a part of all my growth as a player in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL. All but really you know the mcneery Without them,

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<v Speaker 3>I would I wouldn't be here, so no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations Derek Stingley as we know him, all pro sting

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<v Speaker 2>You're the very best man.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks all right, It was great to catch up with

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<v Speaker 2>the all pro Derek Stingley three years ninety million. Really

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<v Speaker 2>happy that he is here, and not just Derek Stingley

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<v Speaker 2>but family friends. He is everything that he was cracked

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<v Speaker 2>up to be from twenty nineteen when I started talking

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<v Speaker 2>to him. When he's draft in twenty twenty two, absolutely great.

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<v Speaker 4>How I felt during that because I had a meeting

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<v Speaker 4>earlier and I couldn't do that one. But you know

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<v Speaker 4>it ended up being like this, Johnny, Like when I

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<v Speaker 4>was talking to Clinton Portis, Yeah, twenty fifteen at Washington practice,

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<v Speaker 4>You're like, it's a cane's thing, leave him alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it. I felt like you and.

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<v Speaker 4>Derek just needed to talk ball together, two defensive backs

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<v Speaker 4>because you played DBA college. Now he played it a

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<v Speaker 4>slightly I'll say, slightly higher level, slight little bit slight,

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit higher, a little bit high as our

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<v Speaker 4>old friends would say, a little bit, a little bit bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Who doesn't a little bit a little bit, but a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit higher level for staying. But you guys talking

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<v Speaker 4>ball sounded great to me, and I would have been like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know when you covered the guy and this interstepping

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<v Speaker 4>the ball, that was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Been like Farley from SNL. I love talking to him

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<v Speaker 2>about the Tyreek play I got. I wanted to pull

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<v Speaker 2>up every interception and go through everyone. But what I

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<v Speaker 2>took out of that is that his football, like Q,

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<v Speaker 2>is so good, He's so smart. He his recall is

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<v Speaker 2>so good. And I remember talking O'Brien talking to about

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<v Speaker 2>this as well, but about Tom Brady's recall. Tom could

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<v Speaker 2>remember everything from every game and that would help him

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<v Speaker 2>because he would see something years down the road and

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<v Speaker 2>remembered how a defensive coordinator reacted to him. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's incredible. I mean, I'm just so glad that he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He and his family and friends are back here in Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll stay here in Houston.

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<v Speaker 1>Never left.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna stay here in Houston, which is absolutely fantastic. But

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<v Speaker 2>we have news, got news this afternoon. Not made a

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<v Speaker 2>fish bud. The Texans have signed an offensive lineman, in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>a left tackle, one of the very few free agents

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<v Speaker 2>essentially left first of all that had never played for

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<v Speaker 2>the Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of them that had played for

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans.

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Robinson has not played for the Texans, but he will.

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<v Speaker 2>He signs a one year deal to come to the Texans.

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<v Speaker 2>He had been with the Jaguars. We'd faced him every

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<v Speaker 2>year since twenty seventeen. He started as a rookie there

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<v Speaker 2>in Jacksonville and played very well for Jacksonville. Traded in

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota last year, starting and played for Minnesota the entire year,

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<v Speaker 2>but was a free agent at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the reasons that he was traded because of that,

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<v Speaker 2>because the contract became an unrestricted free agent and the

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars wanted something for him, and now he becomes a

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<v Speaker 2>Houston Texan. Now rewinded a little bit earlier in the

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<v Speaker 2>day and there had been some scuttle butt on the

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<v Speaker 2>internet that Titus Howard had restructured a deal, and I thought, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what does that what's that money earmarked for? Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>in a few hours later we found out it's Cam Robinson.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark your gut reaction to Texans signing a legitimate left tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>With a lot of pelts on the wall.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's played a bunch and I remember when he

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<v Speaker 4>was drafted and the early reports he was struggling in

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<v Speaker 4>camp or something. We were at the Greenbrier getting all

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff and we thought, oh, good, good, because he's

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<v Speaker 4>a Jaguart, we need them to struggle. But they kicked

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<v Speaker 4>ass that year and he played in almost every game

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<v Speaker 4>there's a rookie he played pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he did.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's had his ups and downs injury wise, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know he's missed some games in recent years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so you have to take that into consideration.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think this eliminates them drafting a tackle, thank you,

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<v Speaker 4>in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this takes this out of play at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that that's still very much on the table

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<v Speaker 2>for them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not you know, and I asked you this before

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<v Speaker 1>we went on.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, it's not mat Khalil, it's not larrymy Tunsel,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's not mat Khalil either, Right, mak Khalil was

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<v Speaker 4>just not desperation. But okay, this is insurance with a

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<v Speaker 4>very high deductible on the cheap or something. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know how to put mak Khalil at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>They just had to do something because maybe mk Khalil

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<v Speaker 2>could have ended up playing.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know. You had to take a look at him.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not that.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's also not acquiring a stone cold no question,

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<v Speaker 4>he's going to play seventeen games and be elite for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Left tackle acquisition this is something where this could work.

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<v Speaker 4>This could work. It could also be something where he's grooming.

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<v Speaker 4>Well we we canceled that word. Cancel that word. He's

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<v Speaker 4>helping develop a younger tackle. Yes, and maybe it's Blake Fisher,

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<v Speaker 4>who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're thinking, well, Blake's gonna play left and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>bring in Cam to sort of supervise him or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the guy until he could be the guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, or they draft a player and that

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<v Speaker 4>is what's going to happen, and they'll let him battle

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<v Speaker 4>it out. If the player's ready, great, If not, Cam's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna play.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what's interesting about it just from so many

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<v Speaker 2>different levels. And Aaron raybol textas and he said, so

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<v Speaker 2>Cam I left tackle, then Titus, and Titus becomes kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the focal point here obviously, Yeah, because what happens

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<v Speaker 2>to Blake, So what.

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<v Speaker 1>Happens to Blake and Titus?

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<v Speaker 2>Just from the standpoint of I think, whatever you do,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta get your five best out on the field. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I do think there are some guys that have some versatility.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Grant cam Robinson is a left tackle. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Blake could play right or left tackle. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Titus can play every position on the offensive line. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Jarrett Patterson probably just a center. I think Jewics

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<v Speaker 2>could play center of guard. So my point in bringing

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<v Speaker 2>all that up, you know, Lake and Thomlinson and Ingram,

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<v Speaker 2>the two guys they brought in are probably guards.

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<v Speaker 1>There're gonna be some pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>That they're gonna have to look at, and combinations are

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<v Speaker 2>probably gonna have to look at in mini camp and

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<v Speaker 2>OTAs to go, Okay, how do we like this group?

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<v Speaker 2>How do we like this group? And then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>draft an offensive line. And I don't think there's a question.

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<v Speaker 2>But to your point, to your point, signing Cam Robinson

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<v Speaker 2>and having Titus and Blake in house doesn't preclude them

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<v Speaker 2>from t can a tackle. But what it does depending

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<v Speaker 2>on the tackle they select, because they don't think any

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<v Speaker 2>the only like true left tackle, probably only playing left

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<v Speaker 2>tackle that I could see out there, as Josh Simmons

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<v Speaker 2>from Ohio State, others everyone else. I could see tackle,

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<v Speaker 2>left tackle, right tackle. I could see tackle, or guard.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see a lot of them fitting in in

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<v Speaker 2>a number of different ways. Gray's abel I could see

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<v Speaker 2>him playing any of the three positions center, guard, tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to get the five best. I shouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to get the five that fit together the best,

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<v Speaker 2>and you get the best play out of what was it?

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<v Speaker 1>What did what did her Brooks say in Miracle?

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<v Speaker 2>Kur Russell, I'm not looking for the best players, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking for the right players.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that is exactly what you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you you take that bullya base and you go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>who are the five?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? What's the right mix? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know what, tomorrow show, we're gonna have Wade

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<v Speaker 4>Smith on, and Wade played every position on the offensive line,

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<v Speaker 4>So nobody better to have on the air than Sade

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<v Speaker 4>Smith to talk about this very subject and how this

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<v Speaker 4>can all fit together.

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<v Speaker 1>How about this for a comparison.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a young player, possibly Blake, possibly Titus is

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<v Speaker 4>not a young player anymore, but he's at left tackle,

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<v Speaker 4>an underdeveloped left tackle right and maybe he can come

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<v Speaker 4>in and play at Gangbusters from day one, but let's

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<v Speaker 4>just call it what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't played there much.

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<v Speaker 4>So what if this is the veteran quarterback you bring

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<v Speaker 4>in until the young guy or the inexperienced guy is ready.

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<v Speaker 4>And if the inexperienced guy is ready, whoever that is,

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<v Speaker 4>well he's gonna play. If he needs a little more seasoning.

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<v Speaker 4>Now the experienced guy is gonna play. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how else to weigh this right now, in the absence

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<v Speaker 4>of Nick really talking about it publicly, I'll go with that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll go with there bringing him in it's even more insurance.

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<v Speaker 4>If not, we feel that he could start at least

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<v Speaker 4>a half a season for us, maybe more, and then

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<v Speaker 4>maybe somebody takes over from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it all works out wonderfully.

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<v Speaker 4>He's in year nine, maybe that's it. Maybe he's able

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<v Speaker 4>to play the whole year and he's our guy. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's one year contract. There's a reason why he's on

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<v Speaker 4>the market though, right right, it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>One year contract, and what I've seen online it's fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>and a half million dollars. I think it's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So my thought is I agree with you that. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>there's you know people that are like, oh, you're pay

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<v Speaker 2>him that much money, he's automatically a starter. Well, the

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<v Speaker 2>Seahawks paid Matt Flynn three years twenty four million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>back when what three years it would be like three

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<v Speaker 2>years and about forty million dollars now or more to

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<v Speaker 2>be a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>And they didn't even get the week one with Matt Flynn.

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<v Speaker 2>They decided Russell Wilson was the guy, and Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>was a third round draft pick.

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<v Speaker 1>They moved Russell Wilson in.

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<v Speaker 2>He took over as the quarterback and stayed in Seattle

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<v Speaker 2>for a very long time. Matt Flynn really hadn't heard

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<v Speaker 2>from much since then. I could appe it if you

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<v Speaker 2>end up drafting the right guy and that guy is

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<v Speaker 2>ready at some point, you don't have to rush them.

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<v Speaker 2>You could get them a custom get them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, used to playing.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a lot of reps in the preseason playing

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<v Speaker 2>left tackle because you kind of know what Cam Robinson is.

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<v Speaker 2>But you got to get Cam some obviously, some reps

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<v Speaker 2>to get comfortable with what was being called, what the

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<v Speaker 2>line calls, playing next to a particular guard. You can

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<v Speaker 2>do a lot of that in training camp, maybe do

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<v Speaker 2>with some control practices against teams, joint practices, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>But it at least gives you some options that you

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<v Speaker 2>can go to. And to your point about Matt Kalilly,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a better option than Matt Kalil. Like

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<v Speaker 2>Matt was really at the end of his life injury.

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<v Speaker 2>He was at the end of it. He was beat up.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a miracle to have him get out there

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<v Speaker 4>for a series of getting right right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Cam can can still play. Was he was

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<v Speaker 2>he what he was four or five years ago. Hard say,

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<v Speaker 2>but at least you have him on that roster and he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to be motivated a one year deal.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you want to get another big deal, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to cash in again. Well, play well in your

0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.399
<v Speaker 2>one year, right and do everything right. You got the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to do it here. You got an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>do it with one of the thirty other teams. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think from that perspective, it's you asked me put the.

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<v Speaker 1>Tunsil Khalil scale where is it?

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<v Speaker 2>And I literally put it right in the middle, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think he can play beyond what Matt. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean matccalil hadn't played for like two years when we

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<v Speaker 2>got him, I think in twenty nineteen or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not larim at tunsl But what you now have

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<v Speaker 2>done is the piece you've added to the buoy base.

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<v Speaker 2>And because of the position that he plays, you now

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<v Speaker 2>have options in the draft to be able to say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, all these linemen are pushing down to us,

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<v Speaker 2>which one do which one do we have rated highest?

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<v Speaker 1>And do we feel the best about it?

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<v Speaker 4>And it doesn't even have to be a first round draft,

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<v Speaker 4>that's right, That's what you could pick two or two

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<v Speaker 4>in the one in the pick you know, right, tackles

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<v Speaker 4>in this organization's history who played really well like Eric

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<v Speaker 4>Winston third round draft choice, Derek Newton's seventh round draft choice.

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<v Speaker 2>So, George off the top of the garbage heap. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean where it's gonna come from.

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<v Speaker 1>How many reps did Charlie Heck give you over there

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<v Speaker 1>to a fourth rounder.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it gives you a lot of options at

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five. If Nick stays at twenty five, but if

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<v Speaker 4>you do stay at twenty five, it gives you a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of options. And maybe it is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a receiver because we feel better than we thought, and

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<v Speaker 4>based on who's dropping, we feel like in the second

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<v Speaker 4>round we could pick somebody up. We have two third

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<v Speaker 4>round selections we can mess with to move up in

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<v Speaker 4>the second round as well to see what's available if

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<v Speaker 4>something good is there mid second round.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of different ways you can go.

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<v Speaker 4>You mentioned it with Tomlinson, with Ingram, now with Robinson.

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<v Speaker 4>There are three guys coming in along with the guys

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<v Speaker 4>you have. You feel like it's hard to pinpoint exactly

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<v Speaker 4>how they're gonna line up, but you got a lot

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<v Speaker 4>to work with. Now that's adding to the depth. You're

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<v Speaker 4>adding to the room and clearly they feel good about it.

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<v Speaker 4>They would not have thrown that kind of money at

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<v Speaker 4>him if they didn't feel really good about him.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have a paint company that is a sponsor

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<v Speaker 2>of the Texans that we're aware of. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we do, Okay, So basically, we went to Sherwin Williams

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<v Speaker 2>and we just got a bunch of paint.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't want to say the wrong spot, right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a bunch of cans of paint, and now

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<v Speaker 2>we got to figure out.

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<v Speaker 1>With those cans of paint, how are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>make it look good up on a canvas. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're not done going.

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<v Speaker 2>We got another trip to Sherwin Williams coming up in April, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and we could even go free agency wise, there could

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<v Speaker 2>be there could be another move coming now. Obviously you

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<v Speaker 2>know with the money, salary cap all that kind of stuff,

0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:43.159
<v Speaker 2>you're you're button up against it. But you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to be ready to strike if there is

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<v Speaker 2>another deal. Like Tevin Jenkins is still out there, and

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Tevin Jenkins, when healthy can be he is absolutely swarmy

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:57.000
<v Speaker 2>when he's healthy playing guard. So it's not done and

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<v Speaker 2>I heard SHAWNA Seth talking about this this morning because

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<v Speaker 2>they were talking about panicking in a sense like are

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<v Speaker 2>you panicked? And I was like, it's March nineteenth, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no reason to panic, Like why panic not? Even there's

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<v Speaker 2>no sense in panicking at this point because you woke

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<v Speaker 2>up Cam Robinson was not a Texan. Now you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to eat dinner, or if you're late and you realize

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Cam Robinson is a Texan, the text helps you and

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<v Speaker 2>you got a lot of paint, now.

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<v Speaker 1>Figure it out.

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<v Speaker 4>The national pundits are already putting them under so much

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<v Speaker 4>scrutiny and will continue to do so because of the

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 4>Laramie deep right, because it was a risk, and from

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<v Speaker 4>the outside looking in, it's a tremendous risk.

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 1>And maybe from the inside looking out it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A tremendous risk because you're really reshuffling the deck and

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<v Speaker 4>getting rid of one of the key cards. Here you've

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<v Speaker 4>added some others and now you're looking for that good hand,

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<v Speaker 4>the five fingers in the glove up front. Can they

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<v Speaker 4>do it? Will they do it? We don't know until

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<v Speaker 4>we see it. You know, everyone's gonna have their opinions,

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 4>and somebody right, so may be wrong, but we're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to know until we see the whole mix on

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<v Speaker 4>the field. I just want to see them run the

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<v Speaker 4>ball better, Johnny. I want to see them inflict their

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<v Speaker 4>will on people. Run the ball a little more, play action,

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<v Speaker 4>run it downhill a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>Make life easier for CJ. Stroud. All related to this

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<v Speaker 1>I saw.

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<v Speaker 4>And I can't credit the person because I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>who came up with it, but I saw this graphic.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a stat Mahomes in the Super Bowl pressure

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<v Speaker 4>rate thirty eight percent or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>CJ.

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<v Speaker 4>Stroud all season long, thirty eight percent or close to it.

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<v Speaker 4>It shows you what he was undergoing, because Mahomes looked

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<v Speaker 4>terrible in the Super Bowl, and look CJ held it

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<v Speaker 4>together under that kind of pressure during the entire regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why you went to Sherman Williams and you

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<v Speaker 1>went and got.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of paint, because you got to figure out

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 2>what paint goes together. And by the way, when you

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<v Speaker 2>put five fingers in a glove, I don't need that

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 2>glove to be like all sequined and jazzy on one finger,

0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 2>the rest of them just like a bunch of nubs.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the love to be cohesive and want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be nice, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Want that glove to be able to work and come

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<v Speaker 2>together like a fist and punch people writing them out.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be really, really fun. Okay, we get back

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL. Well, it's teams have submitted some proposals that

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<v Speaker 2>need to be considered rule changes a couple weeks from

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<v Speaker 2>now at the annual meetings. We'll see what happens then

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll talk about the next on Texans All Access.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll go back to this Wednesday issue of Texans All Access.

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<v Speaker 2>John and Mark with you. The Texans have signed Cam Robinson.

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<v Speaker 2>According to sources, Mark and I discussed that in the

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<v Speaker 2>first segment. If you want to listen to that on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast, make sure you're checking out all of our podcasts. Okay, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>we do this every year. Now, where are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in two.

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<v Speaker 4>Weeks I'll be at the NFL Annual Meeting otherwise known

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<v Speaker 4>as the Owners Meetings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the Annual League meeting. We always do this, and

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<v Speaker 2>these I think get kind of interesting. NFL teams have

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<v Speaker 2>proposed rule change.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, let's go. So there are.

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<v Speaker 2>Three on field and then two off field. Well, actually

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 2>there more than that off field. Yeah, there are two.

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<v Speaker 2>That's two there, and then the Steelers have one. Two Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now the Steelers one off the field is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>it has to do with how you can contact a

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<v Speaker 2>player during the tampering period. Yeah, I saw that one,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of interesting how you can go about it.

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 2>So the Steelers have, uh, they've thrown in a rule that, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>there should at least be one one phone call they

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<v Speaker 2>can make.

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>And all that kind of stuff, so we can get it.

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<v Speaker 1>That one.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably the one that's gotten the most attention is this

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 2>one from the green Bay Packers. So I think we

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<v Speaker 2>knew back when this came out it was the green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Packers, but now we know for sure. Club rule

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<v Speaker 2>change proposal green Bay Packers Rule twelve, Section one to

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<v Speaker 2>prohibit an offensive player from pushing a teammate who was

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<v Speaker 2>lined up directly behind the snapper and receives the snap

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<v Speaker 2>immediately at the snap AKA abolish.

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<v Speaker 1>The tush push right.

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<v Speaker 4>Your thoughts, Well, it's worded very precisely, so if you're

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<v Speaker 4>downfield or away from where the snap was taken, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I can still push you, right, I could push you along.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we doing this? If one is.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand that everyone's crowded in around the snap with

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<v Speaker 4>the tush push, the brotherly shove, whatever you call it,

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<v Speaker 4>but we still allow, we still want to allow pushing

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<v Speaker 4>if it's on the edge, right, So the ball down

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<v Speaker 4>the field and there's this big rugby scrum, Yeah, guys pushing,

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<v Speaker 4>they can push them, right, But now the quarterback can

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<v Speaker 4>be pushed. Yeah, quarterback can't be pushed. So why is

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 4>one okay and not the other? Why all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles have mastered one and not the other. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess so that's why.

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<v Speaker 4>And everybody kind of benefits from the other from time

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<v Speaker 4>to time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>The touch push, it's hard to benefit from because you

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<v Speaker 4>don't do it well, you're not willing to risk doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>Jalen hurts squat some unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's super strung. He can take that punishment. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>You do that with a more diminutive signal caller and

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 4>you might break him in half.

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<v Speaker 1>So look, Johnny, I don't know. I feel like.

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<v Speaker 4>For safety reasons, maybe it should be abolished. But give

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 4>me the data, right, if it's not causing that many injuries,

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 4>you know what, stop it? Stop it. It's a rugby scrump.

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 2>You can't deal with a rugby scrum in professional football exactly.

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 2>The thing about it from a health perspective is it's

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 2>not a full on like collision because you're already there.

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>You're right there.

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not like it's a ten yard difference where

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<v Speaker 2>you're running full speed in it like somebody up.

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<v Speaker 1>So from a health standpoint, I mean, I don't know

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>if his.

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Match shop got hurt by Albert Haynesworth and a freaking

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 2>quarterback sneak.

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the only thing you know, your foot crushed,

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>it's fat Albert Haynesworth. Those things happen. The thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing about it is like, okay, quarterback gets in

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 2>there and he's kind of upright, and he gets back

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 2>and people are like, okay, but that's He's like the

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 2>wires at the rodeo stage during the Journey show.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you know what, you know what happened there? What

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 4>stage is rotating right? Yeah, it's theater in the round

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 4>and it rotates. Yeah, well something got messed up where

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 4>things loosened up, so now you're rotating and you're twisting things.

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 4>They just do the visual math on that. With wires

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.479
<v Speaker 4>and electricity way through them. Apparently, I'm going to give

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 4>you one more thing. Apparently it got so hot the

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 4>fire that some of the cabling and wires turned into

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<v Speaker 4>piles of goo.

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<v Speaker 1>That bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And there, I know I'm taking a terrible tangent here.

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 4>There was one guy who brought a circuitry board or

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<v Speaker 4>something home with him to his shop.

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<v Speaker 1>Welded it all night long. Oh God, this guy's a

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>freaking hero.

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 2>No, he's an expert to make sure that they can

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<v Speaker 2>do the show the next night, had it back by

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:23.719
<v Speaker 2>dawn and they rehooked it up and made everything safe

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 2>and they.

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Pulled it off beautifully.

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 4>And I love stories like this because that guy's not

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 4>getting any recognition in here because I really.

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Don't even know who it was. But you know, I

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 1>got these little tidbits of information.

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<v Speaker 2>Well guess what's not happening at the bottom of the

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 2>tush push piles of Google right exactly, all right, So

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 2>that's plan number one. I say leave it. I don't

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 2>think there's anything this next one to me. I actually

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I like this one. The lions are now proposed The

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 2>lions got busy here. The lions that proposed changing Rule

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 2>eight Section four to a eliminate an automatic first down

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 2>as a penalty imposed for defensive holding in illegal contact.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, so this is how it works. It's third

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 4>and ten. Yeah, you got defensive holding. Yeah, five yard penalty.

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 4>It's third and five, right, should be third and five.

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 4>But in reality it's an automatic first down, right right now,

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 4>it's an automatic first douce, right, that's what the lines

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 4>are proposing. No, it's five yards. So it was third

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 4>and three, Yeah, you get your first down. It's the

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:31.239
<v Speaker 4>distance awarded third and ten.

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>It goes to third and five.

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<v Speaker 4>You tell me, Johnny, how many defensive holding could be

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 4>pretty egregious? Why is offensive holding ten yards and defensive

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 4>holding is five yards? How come no one proposes offensive

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 4>holding five yards? Why does in a league that wants offense?

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Why is offensive holding so punitive? It's a drive freaking killer?

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Right? Why not make it five yards? I don't know.

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.719
<v Speaker 1>It's a good point. How about making defensive holding ten yards?

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<v Speaker 4>I would do that, doubt I would do. And then

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<v Speaker 4>no first no automatic first down. So if it's third

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 4>and fifteen, it's third and five, right with the penalty, I.

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Think going to ten yards.

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<v Speaker 4>Leo contacts Thay in five I think, hang on, I

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<v Speaker 4>just changed the I want to go back to offensive holding.

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 4>Why don't we Why don't we do this? Offensive holding

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 4>is five yards? Would it be too crazy? Everyone's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>hold like crazy as too much of a I think

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 4>you go non risk.

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it's the defense that goes up to ten

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>to keep him consistent.

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't like both of them at five.

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't like both of them at five

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 2>because you can just clutch and grab, and especially if

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 2>it's not gonna be automatic first down. It's like third

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 2>and thirteen and Kelsey has your beat and you just

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>reach out and grab him. You know it's not gonna

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 2>be an automatic first down. All of a sudden it's third

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 2>and eight, or actually it'd be third and three. I

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 2>like that better than third and eight.

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Flavorite one an automatic first down.

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 2>I think I think both offensive defensive holding should be

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 2>ten yards. And obviously offensive holding is not going to

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 2>create a first down, but I think defensive holding should

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 2>not create a first down either. I agree with the

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>lines on this automatic defensive holding you've got then you

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 2>then you would have defensive past interference at fifth or

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 2>uh spot foul, you'd have defensive holding for ten is

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>ego contact for five?

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay the ah really?

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 4>Wait, illegal contact and defensive holding two different things.

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Two different penalties, because they are their two different penalties.

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Why do they have two different penalties? Have two different

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 2>have two different uh? Have two different penalty? Uh, two

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 2>different penalties?

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 4>So no automatic first downs other than PI, that's right,

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 4>because it's spot Oh so spot of foul even if

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 4>it's seven yards on a third.

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, DP, I mean DPI is a spot foul.

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Anyways, this spot file automatic, that's fine, that's fine. But

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>if something is dean defensive holding or legal contact once ten,

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 2>once five, that's what I would do. But right now

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>they're both five well five, But they will not according

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 2>to the Lions, they want it change. They do not

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 2>want automatic first down. You know why I think this

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 2>is important because if we ever go to fourth and fifteen, Yeah, on.

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>The on side kick.

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh that was when Matt money Smith brought up with

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:09.760
<v Speaker 2>those at the combine.

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some people. One of the things he was against

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>was defense holding.

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 2>You the contact, which is not a fifteen yard penalty,

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 2>also gives you an automatic first down. Well, if you change

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 2>the rule and make both of them five yard penalties,

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't give an automatic first down.

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Now that becomes playable fourth and fifteen. Holding will run

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 1>rampant in on those plays.

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh totally, yeah. Absolutely. Let's like pick up basketball.

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like when when you're it's point game. Yeah, rab anybody,

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 2>you punch anybody like they're not getting a good shot off.

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's kind of like that. It might be

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>fourth to two. Yeah, you're not going to the line

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:47.359
<v Speaker 1>the ball. Shut up.

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.879
<v Speaker 2>You might have four cracks at it after like three

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 2>different deventsal holdings, but you're not going to get that one. Okay,

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 2>this is uh number three. This is from the Eagles. Okay,

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 2>if the Packers suck their soft leave the push push, No,

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 2>that's not what it is. Eagles say, Rule sixteen, Section

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 2>one to align, You're like this one to align the

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 2>postseason and regular season overtime rules by granting both teams

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.240
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to possess the ball regardless of the outcome

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:24.240
<v Speaker 2>in the first possession, subject to a fifteen minute overtime

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 2>period in the regular season.

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 4>Yes, because I agree. I want to go back to

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 4>the old way, but they won't do it. No, I

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 4>want to go back to straight.

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Up sudden death. Yeah, straight up sudden death.

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 4>Oh, Mark, you can't know, incentivize the teams to win

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:45.839
<v Speaker 4>the game in regulation overtime, it's, oh my gosh, what's

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 4>going to happen? But they're never going to do that,

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 4>So let's just put that away. That's pie in the sky.

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 4>The way it is now is stupid because it's a

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 4>ten minute overtime period. You are flirting with tie disaster

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 4>every time time out. It doesn't take much. It's three percent,

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:08.879
<v Speaker 4>it's one. Actually you'll probably get two or one team

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 4>will get to one team will get one, right if

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 4>you play it out unless things get crazy. But you

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 4>see what I'm saying, And there's isn't there a two

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 4>minute warning in the ten minute period?

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I think stupid? Make it a quarter?

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 4>Make it a quarter, and so you agree with the

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 4>Eagles on this and give each team a possession?

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Ya give each time or not? If you're gonna do that,

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>do this? Yeah, I tend to like that.

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, The next two and the last two that I've

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 2>seen here from the Lions. Now, the first one I'll

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:46.720
<v Speaker 2>read to you. It's Article seventeen, Section one seventy one

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:51.320
<v Speaker 2>to exclude from the ninety player limit. A player placed

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 2>on reserve slash into reserve before or on the day

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 2>of the roster reduction of fifty three players, unless such

0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 2>players designate before return.

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah, exactly. So forget that, we're not gonna spend

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>any time on that. I don't know they can. That's

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>a sure past. It sounds good.

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 2>But this one becomes really interesting because it would have

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 2>impacted us last year. Okay, Article seventeen, Section one seventy

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>one from the Lions to amend the current playoff seating format.

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, to allow wild card teams to be seated

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 2>higher than division champs if the wildcard team has a

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 2>better regular season record.

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I understand this. So that means the Texans would

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 4>have gone where last year.

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>The Texans would have gone to LA. They would have

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>played the Chargers in LA. Players are Chargers had the better.

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 4>Record even though they did not win the eighth They

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 4>were eleven and six Texans were ten. I know this

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:51.240
<v Speaker 4>is not going to be popular with a lot of people,

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 4>but I'm going to say this is the right thing

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 4>to do. I think if you win your division, I

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 4>don't devalue winning the division by not giving a playoff berth.

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 4>You got to give a playoff berth. So even if

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 4>you win your division at seven and ten for some

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 4>horrible reason, you get in because you won that division,

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 4>But that does not mean you get to host automatically.

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 4>You have to have a good enough record to host.

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 4>I think that's fair, Johnny. Look, yeah too. There have

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 4>been times in our history where that would not have

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 4>been good for us. Seeing the Houston Texans going on

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 4>the road in that wild card weekend action never done

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 4>it before. Every time you've been in the postseason, you've

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:33.399
<v Speaker 4>been at home. Because every time you've been you've been

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 4>in the AFC South champ two years ago could have

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 4>been a wild card, but the Jacksonville Jaguars helped us

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 4>out by losing to Derrick Henry on the last day

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:42.280
<v Speaker 4>of the season.

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 1>That was awesome. But I do agree with this.

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 4>I do agree with this now that we've gotten all

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.800
<v Speaker 4>those home wins, I agree with it because the Texans

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 4>will be in better shape next year, I hope.

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>So that would have.

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.959
<v Speaker 2>Been the only change in the AFC, Like we would

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 2>have gone, we would have gone to LA instead of

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 2>them cominganged.

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:04.919
<v Speaker 1>NFC would have changed things significantly.

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 4>The Rams are going on the road. That's right, well,

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:09.839
<v Speaker 4>on the road anyway in Arizona, but really on the right.

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 4>The Lions would have been one, the Vikings would have

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 4>been two. I'm sorry, I don't know, Eagles Vikings.

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how that would have I don't know

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 2>how that would have broken out both over fourteen and three.

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:24.399
<v Speaker 1>So I would imagine Lions one. Well, division winner would

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>win the tie break, agin play each other. I don't

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember.

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Eagles two, Vikings three, then Packers four. I'm sorry, Commander's four,

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Packers five. So the Packers would have gone to Washington.

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:39.879
<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.720
<v Speaker 2>You would have had the Rams go to the Lion

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, no, the Rams would have gone to the

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Vikings instead of the other way around. That game would

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 2>have been played in Minnesota. Now, after watching that game,

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that would have made much difference. But

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 2>the NFC playoffs would have been totally, incompletely all jacked up.

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 2>And oh the Rams, Yeah, the Rams to have gone

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 2>to the Vikings, and so there's complete difference. Now you

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 2>can argue the other side of it, which is okay,

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 2>AFC South wasn't great last year.

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:13.959
<v Speaker 1>Well, the NFC North got to play us.

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 2>That made it easier for that, I don't know, but

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL, I think everything being equal, I actually

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 2>agree with this one as well, even though we benefited

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 2>from it and winning the division is it's I think

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 2>that that college football is going to make this change too,

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 2>because if you set up a ranking system, like what

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 2>are you setting up the rankings for?

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Like if a team is number five in.

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Your rankings, but oh, once we factor in our team

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 2>that wins the conference gets a buy sort of thing.

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, team goes from number five down

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 1>to number ten.

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.399
<v Speaker 2>Like wait a second, that doesn't that doesn't feel right right,

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't it doesn't seem right now. I know college

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.240
<v Speaker 2>colleges are a little jankier because the schedules aren't even

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 2>like they are.

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:58.839
<v Speaker 4>Not out but right, it's a good point you make.

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 4>There's enough of a Paris and you can make there.

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 4>So the Saints, why did I say the Saints, the

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.319
<v Speaker 4>Vikings and the Lions squared off last game of the

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 4>regular season for all the marbles, all the marbles the

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 4>Vikings lost With this format, they would still lose the bye. Yes,

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 4>they would still lose the buy. So there was plenty

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 4>to play for. Yeah, In that winner take all number

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 4>one seed.

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:23.839
<v Speaker 1>And so one of the.

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Things that I saw that was written was like, you

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 2>know the Texans. Now, I know it was week eighteen

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 2>and we had winning the game, so the arguments whatever moved,

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 2>but they were like, well, the Texans would still have

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 2>to play even though they had won a division. I

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>understand that we didn't go to Kansas City and not

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 2>try and win that game, right, even though we look

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.880
<v Speaker 2>lousy against Baltimore, we didn't try and not win that game, right,

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 2>we went to Tennessee. But it would give you even

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 2>more incentive, right, it would give you even more incentive,

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 2>which I find to shout the season to make sure

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:57.359
<v Speaker 2>you get you know, think about US US at home

0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.359
<v Speaker 2>in a playoff game versus US away a playoff game,

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:00.280
<v Speaker 2>two different things.

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:05.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it's the universe would be different, definitely different.

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Playing the Chargers in La yep.

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 4>Although come on, you're still gonna get after Herbert, but

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 4>I get it. Yeah, this place was rocking that night

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 4>and you don't want to lose that.

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:19.280
<v Speaker 1>And you bring up a great point.

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 4>Last season, I thought one of the underlying issues with

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 4>this team was the fact that they didn't have the

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 4>division clinched, but it was looking like it was wrapped

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 4>up for a long time, for like a couple of months,

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 4>and unless you screw it up, and they almost did,

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:38.359
<v Speaker 4>but they didn't because they beat the Dolphins that day.

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 4>They clinched the division later when the Colts lost to

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 4>the Denver Broncos.

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:44.359
<v Speaker 1>But I like it.

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 4>I like the extra insative to play even better in

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 4>those late season games if you have a big lead

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:50.760
<v Speaker 4>in your division.

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 2>I actually like all of these except push alone. The

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Packers are being weasels about that, like stop, stop every

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 2>other one.

0:42:58.040 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 4>I like, I feel like it was a bigger deal

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 4>the year before or two years before.

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>But whatever, what's that the tush push?

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, and I thought with the safety emphasis

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 4>they might do it, but again maybe the data just

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:10.799
<v Speaker 4>doesn't back it up.

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean went in doubt, go back to the data.

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.399
<v Speaker 2>What about kickoffs? What are we doing here so saying

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 2>thing about it? But we already had it was a

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 2>one year deal, so we'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>They already had it out there that they might move

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<v Speaker 4>the touch back to the third and there's.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing been announced about that yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's still time because you don't it's a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks away.

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<v Speaker 4>But oh, they table votes also for May a lot

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<v Speaker 4>because there's another big owners meetings in May, right, not

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<v Speaker 4>with all the coaches, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Just not the one I get to go to in May.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to go to the one that they are

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<v Speaker 1>not having in July.

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<v Speaker 2>I get to go to the one that they have

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<v Speaker 2>in January and mobile, yes, that's when I get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big one. That's a big one, and very

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<v Speaker 1>much is a big one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now coming up, final thoughts on Cam Robinson becoming a

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<v Speaker 2>Texan and other things.

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<v Speaker 1>Going around the NFL. Next right here in Texans All Access.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, welcome back Texans All Access from not Texans

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<v Speaker 2>Already Studio. I am John Harris, your host, Glad to

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<v Speaker 2>be with you to finish up this Wednesday show. And well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a little quiet around the Texans other than

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<v Speaker 2>Sting's extension, which we had a chance to catch up

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<v Speaker 2>with him. If you missed my interview with sting go

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<v Speaker 2>check out the podcast for the first segment of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>actually for all segments of the show if you missed it.

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<v Speaker 2>But Derrek Stingley Junior obviously signs the extension. He stepped

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<v Speaker 2>in studio that was really really fun. The other news

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<v Speaker 2>that accompanied our interview with Sting was the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Robinson, former Viking, former Jaguar, former Crimson tied All American,

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<v Speaker 2>signed a one year deal with the Houston Texans. Now

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<v Speaker 2>Cam was the I think in some cases, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was NFL Dot Comedy pff.

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<v Speaker 1>He No, it's the athletic. The athletic. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>number four tackle on that list.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, some of them had already gone back to their

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<v Speaker 2>own teams, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>But Cam was available. Texans jumped all over it.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I said in the first segment, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>this is about throwing paint up on the canvas. I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen some people say the guy that I enjoyed from

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<v Speaker 2>the Athletic, Ted Winn was like, you know, Kolepopovitch, good

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<v Speaker 2>luck with putting together off its line with Ingram Lake

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<v Speaker 2>and Tomlinson and Cam Robinson. It's a challenge, obviously with

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the Texans are gonna do. But there's no telling

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<v Speaker 2>a how many of these guys they've acquired are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>start be how many guys that were in a building

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<v Speaker 2>are already gonna start See, there's no telling what the

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<v Speaker 2>situation will be once we get to Week one, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's no telling what we're gonna do to draft. So

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<v Speaker 2>you might draft two starters in the draft, two young guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and you might play them alongside Cam Robinson. You might

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<v Speaker 2>play them alongside Titus Hour, you might play them alongside

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<v Speaker 2>Blake Fisher. Who's to say to me, there's no at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, there is nothing set and stunt about this

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line other than tyas how it will be here

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously they just restructed his contract.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than that, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Even signing Cam Robinson, you'd think it that money, he's

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<v Speaker 2>probably gonna be your left tackle starter, But there's no

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<v Speaker 2>there's no rock solid guarantee that that's gonna take place.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know that Texas are still and are still

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<v Speaker 2>in the mode of construction for this offensive line. But

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Robinson brought in he's watching him this afternoon after

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<v Speaker 2>the news broke about Cam Robinson.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he still got some pretty good juice left.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I watched the.

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<v Speaker 2>Week eighteen game against the Lions. I mean that's late

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<v Speaker 2>in the year, tired. He looked like he moved really

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<v Speaker 2>really well. Like it looked like the Cam Robinson I

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<v Speaker 2>remember from younger, his younger days earlier in his career

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<v Speaker 2>when he was with Jacksonville. So again, is it is

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<v Speaker 2>it bringing in a rock solid, you know, one like

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna be the left tackle of the future. No,

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<v Speaker 2>but if he get some good play out of Cam Robinson,

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<v Speaker 2>it allows maybe other pieces to kind of fall in

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<v Speaker 2>a play place where you want them. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>what it turns out to be. Became Robinson is a

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<v Speaker 2>Houston Texan and you have listened to Texans All Access

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<v Speaker 2>and I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate that NCAA basketball coming up right here on

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Radio six ten.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see them all, everybody, and as always, go Texans.