Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody?
Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday to you, A beautiful day wherever you are.
Speaker 1: Why because you're listening to this show.
Speaker 2: Texans All Access, John Harrison, Mark Vandermiir here with you
Speaker 2: in the Hyundai Texans Radio studio.
Speaker 1: News broke this afternoon.
Speaker 2: The Texans have added an offensive lineman, a left tackle
Speaker 2: to big Zach cam Robinson from the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Mark and I are going to react to that. After
Speaker 1: we talked to the.
Speaker 2: Recently extended Derek Stingley Junior, All Pro staying was in
Speaker 2: the house. He's been in the house. He's been in
Speaker 2: this building, I think every day since the offseason, been
Speaker 2: working out.
Speaker 1: I saw him yesterday in Hallway.
Speaker 2: He and about thirty other guys are here working out,
Speaker 2: and he stopped by after doing all the press conferencing
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff, and we had a
Speaker 2: chance to chat. We chat about his family, becoming a
Speaker 2: really good tackler and becoming all pro sting, but wants
Speaker 2: you to keep your ear off for this. I asked
Speaker 2: him about his interception against Tyreek. You talk about a
Speaker 2: guy with recall football IQ, Derek Stingley Junior has that.
Speaker 2: Here's my conversation with all prosting my man guy wanted
Speaker 2: all along twenty twenty two. In fact, I actually wanted
Speaker 2: you wait before that. I don't know if I've ever
Speaker 2: told you the story. Derek Stingley Junior in studio twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: I walked in the studio. We were having trouble covering
Speaker 2: people and I walked in. I said to Mark, I was.
Speaker 1: Like, man, I wish we had that kid from LSU.
Speaker 2: And he goes, he goes who Stingley? I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: and he goes, well, year is he? He's a true
Speaker 2: fresh and we gotta wait. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're not gonna get him anyways. Long behold you end
Speaker 2: up here in Houston. Derek has been one of the
Speaker 2: best things for the franchise. You get the extension, he
Speaker 2: signed the extension. First of all, how do you feel
Speaker 2: just to kind of have I don't know if that
Speaker 2: was weighing on you at all, but just to have
Speaker 2: that done it over with, how's it feel?
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels great.
Speaker 3: I'm glad to be a part of this team for
Speaker 3: you know more tom Oh, hopefully you know a little
Speaker 3: bit longer. And I'm just ready to get back to
Speaker 3: work to keep going.
Speaker 2: So I saw you in the hallway two days after
Speaker 2: you're signing extension.
Speaker 1: You're out there working with a.
Speaker 2: Bunch of guys, and you've got more guys here seemingly
Speaker 2: in the building at this time of year than ever before.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned it in the Ryan Clark podcast.
Speaker 2: You talked about setting a standard that Nico the year before,
Speaker 2: you saw what he went through and you wanted to
Speaker 2: be able to set a standard.
Speaker 1: Why was that important to you for this organization?
Speaker 3: Well, really, like, like you said, Nico was already here
Speaker 3: doing all that, So like that standards is already set.
Speaker 3: So I mean, I was just trying to keep up
Speaker 3: with how things operate around here and hopefully more people
Speaker 3: just do that on a consistent basis.
Speaker 1: You get drafted in twenty twenty two, not very good.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, the Miko comes in, you get
Speaker 2: a few more players to come in.
Speaker 1: Things change. You saw it before you see it now.
Speaker 2: What's kind of been the biggest thing you think in
Speaker 2: the transformation of this organization, Derek.
Speaker 1: In your opinion, you actually like like on the like.
Speaker 2: Just from the team perspective, what's been different from when
Speaker 2: you got here to what it is now?
Speaker 3: Well, really, I think that the group of guys that
Speaker 3: we got or that we had on the team last
Speaker 3: year and the year before that just like an immediate
Speaker 3: like almost like a chemistry.
Speaker 1: Yeah right.
Speaker 3: Thing played into that, like going through the workouts before
Speaker 3: the season started, like you can already see like you
Speaker 3: you know how to talk to your teammates, and then
Speaker 3: by the time you get on the field start doing practice,
Speaker 3: then that's where you start seeing like like how people
Speaker 3: are when they come to competition on the field. And
Speaker 3: then by the time we get to the actual games,
Speaker 3: it's like everybody's already clicking in. And I mean you
Speaker 3: just see that from the from the beginning.
Speaker 2: So I grew up about thirty minutes from here. My
Speaker 2: dad was my coach. My dad had a way getting
Speaker 2: kind of tough on me. I know, your dad coached
Speaker 2: you for a long time, and when my dad got
Speaker 2: tough on me, I always had moms.
Speaker 1: That was there.
Speaker 2: And a lot of people talk about your dad and
Speaker 2: the impact, but what about your moms being there for
Speaker 2: you throughout this entire journey as much.
Speaker 1: As your dad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean without without her, Like I mean it's
Speaker 3: saying it's the same for both, Like if without what
Speaker 3: they do, I wouldn't be sitting right here right now,
Speaker 3: like like yeah, with my dad a lot working out
Speaker 3: and you know, just you know football and it really
Speaker 3: is more than.
Speaker 1: Football, but like talking about but yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah with football with him, and then with my mom
Speaker 3: is like you know, like you see the family side
Speaker 3: of like like her side of her family, like how
Speaker 3: they always together, how they always you know, communicating and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So I mean it's different levels to
Speaker 3: what they do. And I mean a lot of people
Speaker 3: don't have that, but I got it so.
Speaker 1: To help support system man.
Speaker 2: And they're the only two people that get to the
Speaker 2: stadium before any of us too, which I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: I've seen him in every single stadium before I get there,
Speaker 2: and I'm one of the first uh to get there.
Speaker 2: One of things I love doing with you is talking
Speaker 2: about the game. We talk about things that have happened
Speaker 2: in the game, Like you can give me the details
Speaker 2: and everything. We after Jacksonville game and you had an
Speaker 2: interception and you gave me a whole breakdown of what
Speaker 2: happened against Brian Thomas. So I'm gonna give you my
Speaker 2: favorite interception and I want you to tell me.
Speaker 1: What happened December.
Speaker 2: Fifteenth, twenty twenty four, fourth down against Miami Dolphins. The
Speaker 2: first interception when you're one on one on Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 2: the one in the south end zone or near the
Speaker 2: south end zone.
Speaker 1: Take me through that play and what happened? You remember?
Speaker 1: I know you got the recall. Yeah, So.
Speaker 3: On that play, I think it was either to play
Speaker 3: before or to play or two plays before that he
Speaker 3: ran He took an outside release and ran a dig
Speaker 3: and he caught the ball for a first down, and
Speaker 3: that that really the way he ran the route. It
Speaker 3: was kind of weird, like you're not gonna see nobody
Speaker 3: else run that how he runs it, so all right anyway,
Speaker 3: So that's that's that's beforehand.
Speaker 1: So that set it up in your brain. That's that's
Speaker 1: that something out right. And then.
Speaker 3: Either the next player or two players after after he
Speaker 3: caught that pass, it was kind of like the shot
Speaker 3: area going into the field, and I kind of like,
Speaker 3: I just had a thought in my mind that he
Speaker 3: wasn't going to try to just run past me all
Speaker 3: right here, even though he could have, because we were
Speaker 3: in single high and they had a lot of field
Speaker 3: to work with to like a front pile line throw
Speaker 3: or back pipeline, whichever one they wanted to do. But
Speaker 3: he took the release, and he still he stayed kind
Speaker 3: of vertical off of his first couple of steps, and
Speaker 3: then when he was running like he wouldn't like Tyree,
Speaker 3: he has a specific type of run and how he
Speaker 3: looks when he's running like he But I just had
Speaker 3: a feeling that he was about to break and then
Speaker 3: I just kind of locked in on the hill and
Speaker 3: then once he turned, I turned looked for the ball.
Speaker 2: A lot of people when they the NFL put out
Speaker 2: a video, if you know, the NFL put out a
Speaker 2: video on Twitter, like three and a half minutes of
Speaker 2: your best plays, going all the way back to your
Speaker 2: game against Jackson.
Speaker 1: With your first interception in your career. It was an interception,
Speaker 1: past breakup, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I think what people miss a lot about you, it's
Speaker 2: how well you play the run and how well you
Speaker 2: come up and how willing you are to come up
Speaker 2: and tackle.
Speaker 1: Where did that kind of start for you? Always?
Speaker 2: Has it always been part of your game that you're
Speaker 2: gonna take pride and not only cover people but coming
Speaker 2: up and making tackles as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that that kind of well, I mean
Speaker 3: going back to a little kid. Yeah, but once once
Speaker 3: I got into college, my defensive back coach, Cory Raymond,
Speaker 3: he would always say, y'all gotta tackle, y'all gotta y'all
Speaker 3: gotta know how to ta come down and make a
Speaker 3: tackle hit with this shoulder, this foot forward. And he
Speaker 3: would just say that and we would kind of look
Speaker 3: at him like why, like you know, like what's the
Speaker 3: point of us really getting in there and tackling. But
Speaker 3: I mean it turned out that, I mean, to be
Speaker 3: a great, a better corner, you got to show up
Speaker 3: in the run like you gotta you gotta be reliable
Speaker 3: or what's it's just gonna run the ball at you
Speaker 3: thirty times a game and you're not gonna help the
Speaker 3: team if you can't make the tellus.
Speaker 1: And now on the other side of you got this
Speaker 1: young buck. He'll come up and do things.
Speaker 2: And you said, use the word crazy, and I think
Speaker 2: that kind of fits with the way Kamari plays and
Speaker 2: Kaaln's back there. Now you're adding CJ to you, guys,
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts about the secondary and what you've
Speaker 2: got now with those two young bucks. Now in the
Speaker 2: second year, you're coming back, JP, coming back healthy, Chauncey
Speaker 2: being added to the mix. What you think about your
Speaker 2: secondary now, I mean I think I think we can
Speaker 2: just keep growing. There's always room to grow, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we had what we how many? Like we all we
Speaker 2: had a couple of sicks each last year?
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that's like twenty I think between y'all. Right, So,
Speaker 1: but I.
Speaker 3: Know I'm speaking for everybody, and I know that we
Speaker 3: all dropped some interceptions like we all Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna say it's gonna let you say.
Speaker 3: We all dropped a light, like we left a lot
Speaker 3: out there on the field. So I mean, just getting
Speaker 3: back to the to the basics of fundamentals like why,
Speaker 3: why did that happen? Why did this happen? And just
Speaker 3: going out there and probably getting like thirty each.
Speaker 1: That'd be nice.
Speaker 2: I got to ask you about the commitment from the organization,
Speaker 2: from the McNair's on down, making that commitment to you
Speaker 2: for the next how many every years? And you said
Speaker 2: it on the podcast. You want to be in Houston.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of us, we want to be in Houston.
Speaker 2: I think when we see players that say we love
Speaker 2: Houston so much, we want to be here that you
Speaker 2: you're endearing yourself to us, but the organization has been
Speaker 2: endeared to you from the McNair's on down.
Speaker 1: How does it feel that they make the commitment to you.
Speaker 3: I mean it feels great, and I mean I want
Speaker 3: to thank thank the McNair's for having me here, believing
Speaker 3: in me since I since I before I got here. Them,
Speaker 3: Nick Cerio, the Miko Dino, see like everybody, everybody. That's
Speaker 3: a part of all my growth as a player in
Speaker 3: the NFL. All but really you know the mcneery Without them,
Speaker 3: I would I wouldn't be here, so no doubt.
Speaker 2: Congratulations Derek Stingley as we know him, all pro sting
Speaker 2: You're the very best man.
Speaker 1: Appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Thanks all right, It was great to catch up with
Speaker 2: the all pro Derek Stingley three years ninety million. Really
Speaker 2: happy that he is here, and not just Derek Stingley
Speaker 2: but family friends. He is everything that he was cracked
Speaker 2: up to be from twenty nineteen when I started talking
Speaker 2: to him. When he's draft in twenty twenty two, absolutely great.
Speaker 4: How I felt during that because I had a meeting
Speaker 4: earlier and I couldn't do that one. But you know
Speaker 4: it ended up being like this, Johnny, Like when I
Speaker 4: was talking to Clinton Portis, Yeah, twenty fifteen at Washington practice,
Speaker 4: You're like, it's a cane's thing, leave him alone.
Speaker 1: Got it. I felt like you and.
Speaker 4: Derek just needed to talk ball together, two defensive backs
Speaker 4: because you played DBA college. Now he played it a
Speaker 4: slightly I'll say, slightly higher level, slight little bit slight,
Speaker 4: a little bit higher, a little bit high as our
Speaker 4: old friends would say, a little bit, a little bit bit.
Speaker 4: Who doesn't a little bit a little bit, but a
Speaker 4: little bit higher level for staying. But you guys talking
Speaker 4: ball sounded great to me, and I would have been like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know when you covered the guy and this interstepping
Speaker 4: the ball, that was awesome.
Speaker 2: Been like Farley from SNL. I love talking to him
Speaker 2: about the Tyreek play I got. I wanted to pull
Speaker 2: up every interception and go through everyone. But what I
Speaker 2: took out of that is that his football, like Q,
Speaker 2: is so good, He's so smart. He his recall is
Speaker 2: so good. And I remember talking O'Brien talking to about
Speaker 2: this as well, but about Tom Brady's recall. Tom could
Speaker 2: remember everything from every game and that would help him
Speaker 2: because he would see something years down the road and
Speaker 2: remembered how a defensive coordinator reacted to him. It's just
Speaker 2: it's incredible. I mean, I'm just so glad that he is.
Speaker 2: He and his family and friends are back here in Houston.
Speaker 2: We'll stay here in Houston.
Speaker 1: Never left.
Speaker 2: Gonna stay here in Houston, which is absolutely fantastic. But
Speaker 2: we have news, got news this afternoon. Not made a
Speaker 2: fish bud. The Texans have signed an offensive lineman, in particular,
Speaker 2: a left tackle, one of the very few free agents
Speaker 2: essentially left first of all that had never played for
Speaker 2: the Texans.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of them that had played for
Speaker 1: the Texans.
Speaker 2: Cam Robinson has not played for the Texans, but he will.
Speaker 2: He signs a one year deal to come to the Texans.
Speaker 2: He had been with the Jaguars. We'd faced him every
Speaker 2: year since twenty seventeen. He started as a rookie there
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville and played very well for Jacksonville. Traded in
Speaker 2: Minnesota last year, starting and played for Minnesota the entire year,
Speaker 2: but was a free agent at the end of the year.
Speaker 2: One of the reasons that he was traded because of that,
Speaker 2: because the contract became an unrestricted free agent and the
Speaker 2: Jaguars wanted something for him, and now he becomes a
Speaker 2: Houston Texan. Now rewinded a little bit earlier in the
Speaker 2: day and there had been some scuttle butt on the
Speaker 2: internet that Titus Howard had restructured a deal, and I thought, Okay,
Speaker 2: what does that what's that money earmarked for? Yeah, and
Speaker 2: in a few hours later we found out it's Cam Robinson.
Speaker 2: Mark your gut reaction to Texans signing a legitimate left tackle.
Speaker 1: With a lot of pelts on the wall.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's played a bunch and I remember when he
Speaker 4: was drafted and the early reports he was struggling in
Speaker 4: camp or something. We were at the Greenbrier getting all
Speaker 4: this stuff and we thought, oh, good, good, because he's
Speaker 4: a Jaguart, we need them to struggle. But they kicked
Speaker 4: ass that year and he played in almost every game
Speaker 4: there's a rookie he played pretty well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did.
Speaker 4: And he's had his ups and downs injury wise, and
Speaker 4: you know he's missed some games in recent years.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you have to take that into consideration.
Speaker 4: I don't think this eliminates them drafting a tackle, thank you,
Speaker 4: in the first round.
Speaker 1: I don't think this takes this out of play at all.
Speaker 2: I believe that that's still very much on the table
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 1: It's not you know, and I asked you this before
Speaker 1: we went on.
Speaker 4: I said, it's not mat Khalil, it's not larrymy Tunsel,
Speaker 4: and it's not mat Khalil either, Right, mak Khalil was
Speaker 4: just not desperation. But okay, this is insurance with a
Speaker 4: very high deductible on the cheap or something. I don't
Speaker 4: know how to put mak Khalil at the time.
Speaker 2: They just had to do something because maybe mk Khalil
Speaker 2: could have ended up playing.
Speaker 1: You don't know. You had to take a look at him.
Speaker 1: This is not that.
Speaker 4: But it's also not acquiring a stone cold no question,
Speaker 4: he's going to play seventeen games and be elite for you.
Speaker 4: Left tackle acquisition this is something where this could work.
Speaker 4: This could work. It could also be something where he's grooming.
Speaker 4: Well we we canceled that word. Cancel that word. He's
Speaker 4: helping develop a younger tackle. Yes, and maybe it's Blake Fisher,
Speaker 4: who knows.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're thinking, well, Blake's gonna play left and we'll
Speaker 2: bring in Cam to sort of supervise him or whatever.
Speaker 1: Be the guy until he could be the guy.
Speaker 4: I don't know, or they draft a player and that
Speaker 4: is what's going to happen, and they'll let him battle
Speaker 4: it out. If the player's ready, great, If not, Cam's
Speaker 4: gonna play.
Speaker 2: I think what's interesting about it just from so many
Speaker 2: different levels. And Aaron raybol textas and he said, so
Speaker 2: Cam I left tackle, then Titus, and Titus becomes kind
Speaker 2: of the focal point here obviously, Yeah, because what happens
Speaker 2: to Blake, So what.
Speaker 1: Happens to Blake and Titus?
Speaker 2: Just from the standpoint of I think, whatever you do,
Speaker 2: you gotta get your five best out on the field. Now,
Speaker 2: I do think there are some guys that have some versatility.
Speaker 2: I think Grant cam Robinson is a left tackle. I
Speaker 2: think Blake could play right or left tackle. I think
Speaker 2: Titus can play every position on the offensive line. I
Speaker 2: think Jarrett Patterson probably just a center. I think Jewics
Speaker 2: could play center of guard. So my point in bringing
Speaker 2: all that up, you know, Lake and Thomlinson and Ingram,
Speaker 2: the two guys they brought in are probably guards.
Speaker 1: There're gonna be some pieces.
Speaker 2: That they're gonna have to look at, and combinations are
Speaker 2: probably gonna have to look at in mini camp and
Speaker 2: OTAs to go, Okay, how do we like this group?
Speaker 2: How do we like this group? And then you're gonna
Speaker 2: draft an offensive line. And I don't think there's a question.
Speaker 2: But to your point, to your point, signing Cam Robinson
Speaker 2: and having Titus and Blake in house doesn't preclude them
Speaker 2: from t can a tackle. But what it does depending
Speaker 2: on the tackle they select, because they don't think any
Speaker 2: the only like true left tackle, probably only playing left
Speaker 2: tackle that I could see out there, as Josh Simmons
Speaker 2: from Ohio State, others everyone else. I could see tackle,
Speaker 2: left tackle, right tackle. I could see tackle, or guard.
Speaker 2: I could see a lot of them fitting in in
Speaker 2: a number of different ways. Gray's abel I could see
Speaker 2: him playing any of the three positions center, guard, tackle.
Speaker 1: You got to get the five best. I shouldn't say
Speaker 1: it that way.
Speaker 2: You got to get the five that fit together the best,
Speaker 2: and you get the best play out of what was it?
Speaker 1: What did what did her Brooks say in Miracle?
Speaker 2: Kur Russell, I'm not looking for the best players, I'm
Speaker 2: looking for the right players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is exactly what you're looking for.
Speaker 2: And so you you take that bullya base and you go, Okay,
Speaker 2: who are the five?
Speaker 1: Right? What's the right mix? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, tomorrow show, we're gonna have Wade
Speaker 4: Smith on, and Wade played every position on the offensive line,
Speaker 4: So nobody better to have on the air than Sade
Speaker 4: Smith to talk about this very subject and how this
Speaker 4: can all fit together.
Speaker 1: How about this for a comparison.
Speaker 4: We have a young player, possibly Blake, possibly Titus is
Speaker 4: not a young player anymore, but he's at left tackle,
Speaker 4: an underdeveloped left tackle right and maybe he can come
Speaker 4: in and play at Gangbusters from day one, but let's
Speaker 4: just call it what it is.
Speaker 1: He hasn't played there much.
Speaker 4: So what if this is the veteran quarterback you bring
Speaker 4: in until the young guy or the inexperienced guy is ready.
Speaker 4: And if the inexperienced guy is ready, whoever that is,
Speaker 4: well he's gonna play. If he needs a little more seasoning.
Speaker 4: Now the experienced guy is gonna play. I don't know
Speaker 4: how else to weigh this right now, in the absence
Speaker 4: of Nick really talking about it publicly, I'll go with that.
Speaker 4: I'll go with there bringing him in it's even more insurance.
Speaker 4: If not, we feel that he could start at least
Speaker 4: a half a season for us, maybe more, and then
Speaker 4: maybe somebody takes over from there.
Speaker 1: Maybe it all works out wonderfully.
Speaker 4: He's in year nine, maybe that's it. Maybe he's able
Speaker 4: to play the whole year and he's our guy. So
Speaker 4: it's one year contract. There's a reason why he's on
Speaker 4: the market though, right right, it's a.
Speaker 2: One year contract, and what I've seen online it's fourteen
Speaker 2: and a half million dollars. I think it's what it is.
Speaker 2: So my thought is I agree with you that. And look,
Speaker 2: there's you know people that are like, oh, you're pay
Speaker 2: him that much money, he's automatically a starter. Well, the
Speaker 2: Seahawks paid Matt Flynn three years twenty four million dollars
Speaker 2: back when what three years it would be like three
Speaker 2: years and about forty million dollars now or more to
Speaker 2: be a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And they didn't even get the week one with Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: They decided Russell Wilson was the guy, and Russell Wilson
Speaker 2: was a third round draft pick.
Speaker 1: They moved Russell Wilson in.
Speaker 2: He took over as the quarterback and stayed in Seattle
Speaker 2: for a very long time. Matt Flynn really hadn't heard
Speaker 2: from much since then. I could appe it if you
Speaker 2: end up drafting the right guy and that guy is
Speaker 2: ready at some point, you don't have to rush them.
Speaker 2: You could get them a custom get them.
Speaker 1: You know, used to playing.
Speaker 2: You get a lot of reps in the preseason playing
Speaker 2: left tackle because you kind of know what Cam Robinson is.
Speaker 2: But you got to get Cam some obviously, some reps
Speaker 2: to get comfortable with what was being called, what the
Speaker 2: line calls, playing next to a particular guard. You can
Speaker 2: do a lot of that in training camp, maybe do
Speaker 2: with some control practices against teams, joint practices, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But it at least gives you some options that you
Speaker 2: can go to. And to your point about Matt Kalilly,
Speaker 2: I think it's a better option than Matt Kalil. Like
Speaker 2: Matt was really at the end of his life injury.
Speaker 2: He was at the end of it. He was beat up.
Speaker 4: It was a miracle to have him get out there
Speaker 4: for a series of getting right right.
Speaker 2: I think Cam can can still play. Was he was
Speaker 2: he what he was four or five years ago. Hard say,
Speaker 2: but at least you have him on that roster and he's.
Speaker 1: Going to be motivated a one year deal.
Speaker 2: You know you want to get another big deal, you
Speaker 2: want to cash in again. Well, play well in your
Speaker 2: one year, right and do everything right. You got the
Speaker 2: opportunity to do it here. You got an opportunity to
Speaker 2: do it with one of the thirty other teams. So
Speaker 2: I think from that perspective, it's you asked me put the.
Speaker 1: Tunsil Khalil scale where is it?
Speaker 2: And I literally put it right in the middle, I said,
Speaker 2: because I think he can play beyond what Matt. I
Speaker 2: mean matccalil hadn't played for like two years when we
Speaker 2: got him, I think in twenty nineteen or something like that.
Speaker 2: He's not larim at tunsl But what you now have
Speaker 2: done is the piece you've added to the buoy base.
Speaker 2: And because of the position that he plays, you now
Speaker 2: have options in the draft to be able to say,
Speaker 2: you know what, all these linemen are pushing down to us,
Speaker 2: which one do which one do we have rated highest?
Speaker 1: And do we feel the best about it?
Speaker 4: And it doesn't even have to be a first round draft,
Speaker 4: that's right, That's what you could pick two or two
Speaker 4: in the one in the pick you know, right, tackles
Speaker 4: in this organization's history who played really well like Eric
Speaker 4: Winston third round draft choice, Derek Newton's seventh round draft choice.
Speaker 2: So, George off the top of the garbage heap. You
Speaker 2: don't mean where it's gonna come from.
Speaker 1: How many reps did Charlie Heck give you over there
Speaker 1: to a fourth rounder.
Speaker 4: I think it gives you a lot of options at
Speaker 4: twenty five. If Nick stays at twenty five, but if
Speaker 4: you do stay at twenty five, it gives you a
Speaker 4: lot of options. And maybe it is going to be
Speaker 4: a receiver because we feel better than we thought, and
Speaker 4: based on who's dropping, we feel like in the second
Speaker 4: round we could pick somebody up. We have two third
Speaker 4: round selections we can mess with to move up in
Speaker 4: the second round as well to see what's available if
Speaker 4: something good is there mid second round.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of different ways you can go.
Speaker 4: You mentioned it with Tomlinson, with Ingram, now with Robinson.
Speaker 4: There are three guys coming in along with the guys
Speaker 4: you have. You feel like it's hard to pinpoint exactly
Speaker 4: how they're gonna line up, but you got a lot
Speaker 4: to work with. Now that's adding to the depth. You're
Speaker 4: adding to the room and clearly they feel good about it.
Speaker 4: They would not have thrown that kind of money at
Speaker 4: him if they didn't feel really good about him.
Speaker 2: Do we have a paint company that is a sponsor
Speaker 2: of the Texans that we're aware of. I don't think
Speaker 2: we do, Okay, So basically, we went to Sherwin Williams
Speaker 2: and we just got a bunch of paint.
Speaker 1: You didn't want to say the wrong spot, right, that's right.
Speaker 1: We went to Williams.
Speaker 2: We got a bunch of cans of paint, and now
Speaker 2: we got to figure out.
Speaker 1: With those cans of paint, how are we going to
Speaker 1: make it look good up on a canvas. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we're not done going.
Speaker 2: We got another trip to Sherwin Williams coming up in April, right,
Speaker 2: and we could even go free agency wise, there could
Speaker 2: be there could be another move coming now. Obviously you
Speaker 2: know with the money, salary cap all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: you're you're button up against it. But you want to
Speaker 2: be able to be ready to strike if there is
Speaker 2: another deal. Like Tevin Jenkins is still out there, and
Speaker 2: Tevin Jenkins, when healthy can be he is absolutely swarmy
Speaker 2: when he's healthy playing guard. So it's not done and
Speaker 2: I heard SHAWNA Seth talking about this this morning because
Speaker 2: they were talking about panicking in a sense like are
Speaker 2: you panicked? And I was like, it's March nineteenth, there's
Speaker 2: no reason to panic, Like why panic not? Even there's
Speaker 2: no sense in panicking at this point because you woke
Speaker 2: up Cam Robinson was not a Texan. Now you're going
Speaker 2: to eat dinner, or if you're late and you realize
Speaker 2: Cam Robinson is a Texan, the text helps you and
Speaker 2: you got a lot of paint, now.
Speaker 1: Figure it out.
Speaker 4: The national pundits are already putting them under so much
Speaker 4: scrutiny and will continue to do so because of the
Speaker 4: Laramie deep right, because it was a risk, and from
Speaker 4: the outside looking in, it's a tremendous risk.
Speaker 1: And maybe from the inside looking out it's.
Speaker 4: A tremendous risk because you're really reshuffling the deck and
Speaker 4: getting rid of one of the key cards. Here you've
Speaker 4: added some others and now you're looking for that good hand,
Speaker 4: the five fingers in the glove up front. Can they
Speaker 4: do it? Will they do it? We don't know until
Speaker 4: we see it. You know, everyone's gonna have their opinions,
Speaker 4: and somebody right, so may be wrong, but we're not
Speaker 4: going to know until we see the whole mix on
Speaker 4: the field. I just want to see them run the
Speaker 4: ball better, Johnny. I want to see them inflict their
Speaker 4: will on people. Run the ball a little more, play action,
Speaker 4: run it downhill a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Make life easier for CJ. Stroud. All related to this
Speaker 1: I saw.
Speaker 4: And I can't credit the person because I don't know
Speaker 4: who came up with it, but I saw this graphic.
Speaker 4: It was a stat Mahomes in the Super Bowl pressure
Speaker 4: rate thirty eight percent or something like that.
Speaker 1: CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud all season long, thirty eight percent or close to it.
Speaker 4: It shows you what he was undergoing, because Mahomes looked
Speaker 4: terrible in the Super Bowl, and look CJ held it
Speaker 4: together under that kind of pressure during the entire regular season.
Speaker 1: And that's why you went to Sherman Williams and you
Speaker 1: went and got.
Speaker 2: A lot of paint, because you got to figure out
Speaker 2: what paint goes together. And by the way, when you
Speaker 2: put five fingers in a glove, I don't need that
Speaker 2: glove to be like all sequined and jazzy on one finger,
Speaker 2: the rest of them just like a bunch of nubs.
Speaker 1: I want the love to be cohesive and want it
Speaker 1: to be nice, and I.
Speaker 2: Want that glove to be able to work and come
Speaker 2: together like a fist and punch people writing them out.
Speaker 2: That would be really, really fun. Okay, we get back
Speaker 2: the NFL. Well, it's teams have submitted some proposals that
Speaker 2: need to be considered rule changes a couple weeks from
Speaker 2: now at the annual meetings. We'll see what happens then
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about the next on Texans All Access.
Speaker 2: We'll go back to this Wednesday issue of Texans All Access.
Speaker 2: John and Mark with you. The Texans have signed Cam Robinson.
Speaker 2: According to sources, Mark and I discussed that in the
Speaker 2: first segment. If you want to listen to that on
Speaker 2: the podcast, make sure you're checking out all of our podcasts. Okay, Mark,
Speaker 2: we do this every year. Now, where are you going
Speaker 2: to be in two.
Speaker 4: Weeks I'll be at the NFL Annual Meeting otherwise known
Speaker 4: as the Owners Meetings.
Speaker 2: Yes, the Annual League meeting. We always do this, and
Speaker 2: these I think get kind of interesting. NFL teams have
Speaker 2: proposed rule change.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's go. So there are.
Speaker 2: Three on field and then two off field. Well, actually
Speaker 2: there more than that off field. Yeah, there are two.
Speaker 2: That's two there, and then the Steelers have one. Two Okay,
Speaker 2: now the Steelers one off the field is kind of
Speaker 2: it has to do with how you can contact a
Speaker 2: player during the tampering period. Yeah, I saw that one,
Speaker 2: So it's kind of interesting how you can go about it.
Speaker 2: So the Steelers have, uh, they've thrown in a rule that, hey,
Speaker 2: there should at least be one one phone call they
Speaker 2: can make.
Speaker 1: And all that kind of stuff, so we can get it.
Speaker 1: That one.
Speaker 2: Probably the one that's gotten the most attention is this
Speaker 2: one from the green Bay Packers. So I think we
Speaker 2: knew back when this came out it was the green
Speaker 2: Bay Packers, but now we know for sure. Club rule
Speaker 2: change proposal green Bay Packers Rule twelve, Section one to
Speaker 2: prohibit an offensive player from pushing a teammate who was
Speaker 2: lined up directly behind the snapper and receives the snap
Speaker 2: immediately at the snap AKA abolish.
Speaker 1: The tush push right.
Speaker 4: Your thoughts, Well, it's worded very precisely, so if you're
Speaker 4: downfield or away from where the snap was taken, yeah,
Speaker 4: I can still push you, right, I could push you along.
Speaker 1: Why are we doing this? If one is.
Speaker 4: I understand that everyone's crowded in around the snap with
Speaker 4: the tush push, the brotherly shove, whatever you call it,
Speaker 4: but we still allow, we still want to allow pushing
Speaker 4: if it's on the edge, right, So the ball down
Speaker 4: the field and there's this big rugby scrum, Yeah, guys pushing,
Speaker 4: they can push them, right, But now the quarterback can
Speaker 4: be pushed. Yeah, quarterback can't be pushed. So why is
Speaker 4: one okay and not the other? Why all of it.
Speaker 2: Eagles have mastered one and not the other. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess so that's why.
Speaker 4: And everybody kind of benefits from the other from time
Speaker 4: to time.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: The touch push, it's hard to benefit from because you
Speaker 4: don't do it well, you're not willing to risk doesn't
Speaker 4: Jalen hurts squat some unbelievable.
Speaker 1: So he's super strung. He can take that punishment. You know.
Speaker 4: You do that with a more diminutive signal caller and
Speaker 4: you might break him in half.
Speaker 1: So look, Johnny, I don't know. I feel like.
Speaker 4: For safety reasons, maybe it should be abolished. But give
Speaker 4: me the data, right, if it's not causing that many injuries,
Speaker 4: you know what, stop it? Stop it. It's a rugby scrump.
Speaker 2: You can't deal with a rugby scrum in professional football exactly.
Speaker 2: The thing about it from a health perspective is it's
Speaker 2: not a full on like collision because you're already there.
Speaker 1: You're right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like it's a ten yard difference where
Speaker 2: you're running full speed in it like somebody up.
Speaker 1: So from a health standpoint, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: if his.
Speaker 2: Match shop got hurt by Albert Haynesworth and a freaking
Speaker 2: quarterback sneak.
Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing you know, your foot crushed,
Speaker 1: it's fat Albert Haynesworth. Those things happen. The thing.
Speaker 2: The thing about it is like, okay, quarterback gets in
Speaker 2: there and he's kind of upright, and he gets back
Speaker 2: and people are like, okay, but that's He's like the
Speaker 2: wires at the rodeo stage during the Journey show.
Speaker 4: Oh you know what, you know what happened there? What
Speaker 4: stage is rotating right? Yeah, it's theater in the round
Speaker 4: and it rotates. Yeah, well something got messed up where
Speaker 4: things loosened up, so now you're rotating and you're twisting things.
Speaker 4: They just do the visual math on that. With wires
Speaker 4: and electricity way through them. Apparently, I'm going to give
Speaker 4: you one more thing. Apparently it got so hot the
Speaker 4: fire that some of the cabling and wires turned into
Speaker 4: piles of goo.
Speaker 1: That bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And there, I know I'm taking a terrible tangent here.
Speaker 4: There was one guy who brought a circuitry board or
Speaker 4: something home with him to his shop.
Speaker 1: Welded it all night long. Oh God, this guy's a
Speaker 1: freaking hero.
Speaker 2: No, he's an expert to make sure that they can
Speaker 2: do the show the next night, had it back by
Speaker 2: dawn and they rehooked it up and made everything safe
Speaker 2: and they.
Speaker 1: Pulled it off beautifully.
Speaker 4: And I love stories like this because that guy's not
Speaker 4: getting any recognition in here because I really.
Speaker 1: Don't even know who it was. But you know, I
Speaker 1: got these little tidbits of information.
Speaker 2: Well guess what's not happening at the bottom of the
Speaker 2: tush push piles of Google right exactly, all right, So
Speaker 2: that's plan number one. I say leave it. I don't
Speaker 2: think there's anything this next one to me. I actually
Speaker 2: I like this one. The lions are now proposed The
Speaker 2: lions got busy here. The lions that proposed changing Rule
Speaker 2: eight Section four to a eliminate an automatic first down
Speaker 2: as a penalty imposed for defensive holding in illegal contact.
Speaker 4: All right, so this is how it works. It's third
Speaker 4: and ten. Yeah, you got defensive holding. Yeah, five yard penalty.
Speaker 4: It's third and five, right, should be third and five.
Speaker 4: But in reality it's an automatic first down, right right now,
Speaker 4: it's an automatic first douce, right, that's what the lines
Speaker 4: are proposing. No, it's five yards. So it was third
Speaker 4: and three, Yeah, you get your first down. It's the
Speaker 4: distance awarded third and ten.
Speaker 1: It goes to third and five.
Speaker 4: You tell me, Johnny, how many defensive holding could be
Speaker 4: pretty egregious? Why is offensive holding ten yards and defensive
Speaker 4: holding is five yards? How come no one proposes offensive
Speaker 4: holding five yards? Why does in a league that wants offense?
Speaker 4: Why is offensive holding so punitive? It's a drive freaking killer?
Speaker 1: Right? Why not make it five yards? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a good point. How about making defensive holding ten yards?
Speaker 4: I would do that, doubt I would do. And then
Speaker 4: no first no automatic first down. So if it's third
Speaker 4: and fifteen, it's third and five, right with the penalty, I.
Speaker 1: Think going to ten yards.
Speaker 4: Leo contacts Thay in five I think, hang on, I
Speaker 4: just changed the I want to go back to offensive holding.
Speaker 4: Why don't we Why don't we do this? Offensive holding
Speaker 4: is five yards? Would it be too crazy? Everyone's gonna
Speaker 4: hold like crazy as too much of a I think
Speaker 4: you go non risk.
Speaker 2: I think it's the defense that goes up to ten
Speaker 2: to keep him consistent.
Speaker 1: I don't like both of them at five.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't like both of them at five
Speaker 2: because you can just clutch and grab, and especially if
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be automatic first down. It's like third
Speaker 2: and thirteen and Kelsey has your beat and you just
Speaker 2: reach out and grab him. You know it's not gonna
Speaker 2: be an automatic first down. All of a sudden it's third
Speaker 2: and eight, or actually it'd be third and three. I
Speaker 2: like that better than third and eight.
Speaker 1: Flavorite one an automatic first down.
Speaker 2: I think I think both offensive defensive holding should be
Speaker 2: ten yards. And obviously offensive holding is not going to
Speaker 2: create a first down, but I think defensive holding should
Speaker 2: not create a first down either. I agree with the
Speaker 2: lines on this automatic defensive holding you've got then you
Speaker 2: then you would have defensive past interference at fifth or
Speaker 2: uh spot foul, you'd have defensive holding for ten is
Speaker 2: ego contact for five?
Speaker 1: Okay the ah really?
Speaker 4: Wait, illegal contact and defensive holding two different things.
Speaker 2: Two different penalties, because they are their two different penalties.
Speaker 2: Why do they have two different penalties? Have two different
Speaker 2: have two different uh? Have two different penalty? Uh, two
Speaker 2: different penalties?
Speaker 4: So no automatic first downs other than PI, that's right,
Speaker 4: because it's spot Oh so spot of foul even if
Speaker 4: it's seven yards on a third.
Speaker 1: And yeah, DP, I mean DPI is a spot foul.
Speaker 2: Anyways, this spot file automatic, that's fine, that's fine. But
Speaker 2: if something is dean defensive holding or legal contact once ten,
Speaker 2: once five, that's what I would do. But right now
Speaker 2: they're both five well five, But they will not according
Speaker 2: to the Lions, they want it change. They do not
Speaker 2: want automatic first down. You know why I think this
Speaker 2: is important because if we ever go to fourth and fifteen, Yeah, on.
Speaker 1: The on side kick.
Speaker 2: Oh that was when Matt money Smith brought up with
Speaker 2: those at the combine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some people. One of the things he was against
Speaker 1: was defense holding.
Speaker 2: You the contact, which is not a fifteen yard penalty,
Speaker 2: also gives you an automatic first down. Well, if you change
Speaker 2: the rule and make both of them five yard penalties,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't give an automatic first down.
Speaker 1: Now that becomes playable fourth and fifteen. Holding will run
Speaker 1: rampant in on those plays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh totally, yeah. Absolutely. Let's like pick up basketball.
Speaker 2: It's like when when you're it's point game. Yeah, rab anybody,
Speaker 2: you punch anybody like they're not getting a good shot off.
Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of like that. It might be
Speaker 1: fourth to two. Yeah, you're not going to the line
Speaker 1: the ball. Shut up.
Speaker 2: You might have four cracks at it after like three
Speaker 2: different deventsal holdings, but you're not going to get that one. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is uh number three. This is from the Eagles. Okay,
Speaker 2: if the Packers suck their soft leave the push push, No,
Speaker 2: that's not what it is. Eagles say, Rule sixteen, Section
Speaker 2: one to align, You're like this one to align the
Speaker 2: postseason and regular season overtime rules by granting both teams
Speaker 2: an opportunity to possess the ball regardless of the outcome
Speaker 2: in the first possession, subject to a fifteen minute overtime
Speaker 2: period in the regular season.
Speaker 4: Yes, because I agree. I want to go back to
Speaker 4: the old way, but they won't do it. No, I
Speaker 4: want to go back to straight.
Speaker 1: Up sudden death. Yeah, straight up sudden death.
Speaker 4: Oh, Mark, you can't know, incentivize the teams to win
Speaker 4: the game in regulation overtime, it's, oh my gosh, what's
Speaker 4: going to happen? But they're never going to do that,
Speaker 4: So let's just put that away. That's pie in the sky.
Speaker 4: The way it is now is stupid because it's a
Speaker 4: ten minute overtime period. You are flirting with tie disaster
Speaker 4: every time time out. It doesn't take much. It's three percent,
Speaker 4: it's one. Actually you'll probably get two or one team
Speaker 4: will get to one team will get one, right if
Speaker 4: you play it out unless things get crazy. But you
Speaker 4: see what I'm saying, And there's isn't there a two
Speaker 4: minute warning in the ten minute period?
Speaker 1: I think stupid? Make it a quarter?
Speaker 4: Make it a quarter, and so you agree with the
Speaker 4: Eagles on this and give each team a possession?
Speaker 1: Ya give each time or not? If you're gonna do that,
Speaker 1: do this? Yeah, I tend to like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, The next two and the last two that I've
Speaker 2: seen here from the Lions. Now, the first one I'll
Speaker 2: read to you. It's Article seventeen, Section one seventy one
Speaker 2: to exclude from the ninety player limit. A player placed
Speaker 2: on reserve slash into reserve before or on the day
Speaker 2: of the roster reduction of fifty three players, unless such
Speaker 2: players designate before return.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, exactly. So forget that, we're not gonna spend
Speaker 1: any time on that. I don't know they can. That's
Speaker 1: a sure past. It sounds good.
Speaker 2: But this one becomes really interesting because it would have
Speaker 2: impacted us last year. Okay, Article seventeen, Section one seventy
Speaker 2: one from the Lions to amend the current playoff seating format.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, to allow wild card teams to be seated
Speaker 2: higher than division champs if the wildcard team has a
Speaker 2: better regular season record.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand this. So that means the Texans would
Speaker 4: have gone where last year.
Speaker 1: The Texans would have gone to LA. They would have
Speaker 1: played the Chargers in LA. Players are Chargers had the better.
Speaker 4: Record even though they did not win the eighth They
Speaker 4: were eleven and six Texans were ten. I know this
Speaker 4: is not going to be popular with a lot of people,
Speaker 4: but I'm going to say this is the right thing
Speaker 4: to do. I think if you win your division, I
Speaker 4: don't devalue winning the division by not giving a playoff berth.
Speaker 4: You got to give a playoff berth. So even if
Speaker 4: you win your division at seven and ten for some
Speaker 4: horrible reason, you get in because you won that division,
Speaker 4: But that does not mean you get to host automatically.
Speaker 4: You have to have a good enough record to host.
Speaker 4: I think that's fair, Johnny. Look, yeah too. There have
Speaker 4: been times in our history where that would not have
Speaker 4: been good for us. Seeing the Houston Texans going on
Speaker 4: the road in that wild card weekend action never done
Speaker 4: it before. Every time you've been in the postseason, you've
Speaker 4: been at home. Because every time you've been you've been
Speaker 4: in the AFC South champ two years ago could have
Speaker 4: been a wild card, but the Jacksonville Jaguars helped us
Speaker 4: out by losing to Derrick Henry on the last day
Speaker 4: of the season.
Speaker 1: That was awesome. But I do agree with this.
Speaker 4: I do agree with this now that we've gotten all
Speaker 4: those home wins, I agree with it because the Texans
Speaker 4: will be in better shape next year, I hope.
Speaker 1: So that would have.
Speaker 2: Been the only change in the AFC, Like we would
Speaker 2: have gone, we would have gone to LA instead of
Speaker 2: them cominganged.
Speaker 1: NFC would have changed things significantly.
Speaker 4: The Rams are going on the road. That's right, well,
Speaker 4: on the road anyway in Arizona, but really on the right.
Speaker 4: The Lions would have been one, the Vikings would have
Speaker 4: been two. I'm sorry, I don't know, Eagles Vikings.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that would have I don't know
Speaker 2: how that would have broken out both over fourteen and three.
Speaker 1: So I would imagine Lions one. Well, division winner would
Speaker 1: win the tie break, agin play each other. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't remember.
Speaker 2: Eagles two, Vikings three, then Packers four. I'm sorry, Commander's four,
Speaker 2: Packers five. So the Packers would have gone to Washington.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 2: You would have had the Rams go to the Lion
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, the Rams would have gone to the
Speaker 2: Vikings instead of the other way around. That game would
Speaker 2: have been played in Minnesota. Now, after watching that game,
Speaker 2: I don't know that would have made much difference. But
Speaker 2: the NFC playoffs would have been totally, incompletely all jacked up.
Speaker 2: And oh the Rams, Yeah, the Rams to have gone
Speaker 2: to the Vikings, and so there's complete difference. Now you
Speaker 2: can argue the other side of it, which is okay,
Speaker 2: AFC South wasn't great last year.
Speaker 1: Well, the NFC North got to play us.
Speaker 2: That made it easier for that, I don't know, but
Speaker 2: in the NFL, I think everything being equal, I actually
Speaker 2: agree with this one as well, even though we benefited
Speaker 2: from it and winning the division is it's I think
Speaker 2: that that college football is going to make this change too,
Speaker 2: because if you set up a ranking system, like what
Speaker 2: are you setting up the rankings for?
Speaker 1: Like if a team is number five in.
Speaker 2: Your rankings, but oh, once we factor in our team
Speaker 2: that wins the conference gets a buy sort of thing.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, team goes from number five down
Speaker 1: to number ten.
Speaker 2: Like wait a second, that doesn't that doesn't feel right right,
Speaker 2: that doesn't it doesn't seem right now. I know college
Speaker 2: colleges are a little jankier because the schedules aren't even
Speaker 2: like they are.
Speaker 4: Not out but right, it's a good point you make.
Speaker 4: There's enough of a Paris and you can make there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the Saints, why did I say the Saints, the
Speaker 4: Vikings and the Lions squared off last game of the
Speaker 4: regular season for all the marbles, all the marbles the
Speaker 4: Vikings lost With this format, they would still lose the bye. Yes,
Speaker 4: they would still lose the buy. So there was plenty
Speaker 4: to play for. Yeah, In that winner take all number
Speaker 4: one seed.
Speaker 1: And so one of the.
Speaker 2: Things that I saw that was written was like, you
Speaker 2: know the Texans. Now, I know it was week eighteen
Speaker 2: and we had winning the game, so the arguments whatever moved,
Speaker 2: but they were like, well, the Texans would still have
Speaker 2: to play even though they had won a division. I
Speaker 2: understand that we didn't go to Kansas City and not
Speaker 2: try and win that game, right, even though we look
Speaker 2: lousy against Baltimore, we didn't try and not win that game, right,
Speaker 2: we went to Tennessee. But it would give you even
Speaker 2: more incentive, right, it would give you even more incentive,
Speaker 2: which I find to shout the season to make sure
Speaker 2: you get you know, think about US US at home
Speaker 2: in a playoff game versus US away a playoff game,
Speaker 2: two different things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's the universe would be different, definitely different.
Speaker 1: Playing the Chargers in La yep.
Speaker 4: Although come on, you're still gonna get after Herbert, but
Speaker 4: I get it. Yeah, this place was rocking that night
Speaker 4: and you don't want to lose that.
Speaker 1: And you bring up a great point.
Speaker 4: Last season, I thought one of the underlying issues with
Speaker 4: this team was the fact that they didn't have the
Speaker 4: division clinched, but it was looking like it was wrapped
Speaker 4: up for a long time, for like a couple of months,
Speaker 4: and unless you screw it up, and they almost did,
Speaker 4: but they didn't because they beat the Dolphins that day.
Speaker 4: They clinched the division later when the Colts lost to
Speaker 4: the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1: But I like it.
Speaker 4: I like the extra insative to play even better in
Speaker 4: those late season games if you have a big lead
Speaker 4: in your division.
Speaker 2: I actually like all of these except push alone. The
Speaker 2: Packers are being weasels about that, like stop, stop every
Speaker 2: other one.
Speaker 4: I like, I feel like it was a bigger deal
Speaker 4: the year before or two years before.
Speaker 1: But whatever, what's that the tush push?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and I thought with the safety emphasis
Speaker 4: they might do it, but again maybe the data just
Speaker 4: doesn't back it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean went in doubt, go back to the data.
Speaker 2: What about kickoffs? What are we doing here so saying
Speaker 2: thing about it? But we already had it was a
Speaker 2: one year deal, so we'll see.
Speaker 4: They already had it out there that they might move
Speaker 4: the touch back to the third and there's.
Speaker 1: Nothing been announced about that yet.
Speaker 2: Now there's still time because you don't it's a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks away.
Speaker 4: But oh, they table votes also for May a lot
Speaker 4: because there's another big owners meetings in May, right, not
Speaker 4: with all the coaches, and.
Speaker 1: Just not the one I get to go to in May.
Speaker 1: You get to go to the one that they are
Speaker 1: not having in July.
Speaker 2: I get to go to the one that they have
Speaker 2: in January and mobile, yes, that's when I get to that.
Speaker 1: That's a big one. That's a big one, and very
Speaker 1: much is a big one.
Speaker 2: Now coming up, final thoughts on Cam Robinson becoming a
Speaker 2: Texan and other things.
Speaker 1: Going around the NFL. Next right here in Texans All Access.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, welcome back Texans All Access from not Texans
Speaker 2: Already Studio. I am John Harris, your host, Glad to
Speaker 2: be with you to finish up this Wednesday show. And well,
Speaker 2: it's been a little quiet around the Texans other than
Speaker 2: Sting's extension, which we had a chance to catch up
Speaker 2: with him. If you missed my interview with sting go
Speaker 2: check out the podcast for the first segment of the show,
Speaker 2: actually for all segments of the show if you missed it.
Speaker 2: But Derrek Stingley Junior obviously signs the extension. He stepped
Speaker 2: in studio that was really really fun. The other news
Speaker 2: that accompanied our interview with Sting was the fact that
Speaker 2: Cam Robinson, former Viking, former Jaguar, former Crimson tied All American,
Speaker 2: signed a one year deal with the Houston Texans. Now
Speaker 2: Cam was the I think in some cases, I think
Speaker 2: it was NFL Dot Comedy pff.
Speaker 1: He No, it's the athletic. The athletic. He was the
Speaker 1: number four tackle on that list.
Speaker 2: Now, some of them had already gone back to their
Speaker 2: own teams, et cetera.
Speaker 1: But Cam was available. Texans jumped all over it.
Speaker 2: And as I said in the first segment, to me,
Speaker 2: this is about throwing paint up on the canvas. I've
Speaker 2: seen some people say the guy that I enjoyed from
Speaker 2: the Athletic, Ted Winn was like, you know, Kolepopovitch, good
Speaker 2: luck with putting together off its line with Ingram Lake
Speaker 2: and Tomlinson and Cam Robinson. It's a challenge, obviously with
Speaker 2: whatever the Texans are gonna do. But there's no telling
Speaker 2: a how many of these guys they've acquired are gonna
Speaker 2: start be how many guys that were in a building
Speaker 2: are already gonna start See, there's no telling what the
Speaker 2: situation will be once we get to Week one, and
Speaker 2: there's no telling what we're gonna do to draft. So
Speaker 2: you might draft two starters in the draft, two young guys,
Speaker 2: and you might play them alongside Cam Robinson. You might
Speaker 2: play them alongside Titus Hour, you might play them alongside
Speaker 2: Blake Fisher. Who's to say to me, there's no at
Speaker 2: this point, there is nothing set and stunt about this
Speaker 2: offensive line other than tyas how it will be here
Speaker 2: because obviously they just restructed his contract.
Speaker 1: Other than that, you don't know.
Speaker 2: Even signing Cam Robinson, you'd think it that money, he's
Speaker 2: probably gonna be your left tackle starter, But there's no
Speaker 2: there's no rock solid guarantee that that's gonna take place.
Speaker 2: You don't know that Texas are still and are still
Speaker 2: in the mode of construction for this offensive line. But
Speaker 2: Cam Robinson brought in he's watching him this afternoon after
Speaker 2: the news broke about Cam Robinson.
Speaker 1: I think he still got some pretty good juice left.
Speaker 1: Like I watched the.
Speaker 2: Week eighteen game against the Lions. I mean that's late
Speaker 2: in the year, tired. He looked like he moved really
Speaker 2: really well. Like it looked like the Cam Robinson I
Speaker 2: remember from younger, his younger days earlier in his career
Speaker 2: when he was with Jacksonville. So again, is it is
Speaker 2: it bringing in a rock solid, you know, one like
Speaker 2: he's gonna be the left tackle of the future. No,
Speaker 2: but if he get some good play out of Cam Robinson,
Speaker 2: it allows maybe other pieces to kind of fall in
Speaker 2: a play place where you want them. So we'll see
Speaker 2: what it turns out to be. Became Robinson is a
Speaker 2: Houston Texan and you have listened to Texans All Access
Speaker 2: and I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: We'll see them all, everybody, and as always, go Texans.