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Speaker 5: And it's like for all our ambitious listeners out there,

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Speaker 1: this is a watershed thing like that had to be

441
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Speaker 1: a high anxiety moment.

442
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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god, so much anxiety. But doing Wild

443
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 4: was a reset for my whole life, my whole career,

444
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 4: which was great for me. I had to work, visit,

445
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 4: I couldn't talk, you know, my superpower is talking really best.

446
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 1: It was mostly backpack.

447
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 5: It was all contemplating the earth, and yeah.

448
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Speaker 2: The realism of that movie is kind of the sort

449
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Speaker 2: of correlarator, like everything you had done up to that point. Also,

450
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 2: you let out one of the great screams.

451
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll never forget the whole Yeah, that was opening

452
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Speaker 1: scenes in movies. So did you end up watching it

453
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Speaker 1: on the plane last night? Okay, I'm so glad. It's

454
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 1: not a hardship to watch your movie. Twist my arm

455
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Speaker 1: watch what was intense? Though? Yeah, that is an intense

456
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: It's an intense one. And of course there's that god

457
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Speaker 1: the heartbreaking scene where you discover that your mother has

458
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 1: passed and that you weren't there. And then great Laura during.

459
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Speaker 5: Talk about.

460
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: Was kind of where I was going. So was that

461
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: the start? Were you friends with Laura before that?

462
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 5: Or we met on that movie?

463
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Speaker 1: So you met on that movie, because it does.

464
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Speaker 5: She was doing her dest scene one day one she's dead.

465
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: I walk in.

466
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Speaker 5: I'm like, she was like, I'm going through divorce. I

467
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 5: was like, just been through one.

468
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Speaker 1: Let's get into let's go. So then there there beg

469
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Speaker 1: beg friendship and it does feel like you guys are

470
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Speaker 1: like sisters.

471
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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, we are so connected and we laugh

472
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 5: all morning all night. I just FaceTime her this morning.

473
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 5: I was like, going on with call Teresa. Oh my god.

474
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: I was like that, No, I just met her, so

475
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: it was like it was it was a two second thing.

476
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: But I was just like I didn't get time with her,

477
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: but I was like, God, she really similar to you.

478
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: It's like like she will always have that other place

479
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 1: in your mind where it's like I once saw you

480
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: on a screen and you changed my life. And you

481
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: are walking around and really producing the show that the

482
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Speaker 1: Palm Royal Show, like really there on her day off,

483
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: there in the nuts and bolts, and it's really amazing

484
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: to see because you guys bring perspective that is not

485
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Speaker 1: usually there.

486
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Speaker 4: She's just so encyclopedic about her understanding of film, television performance,

487
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 4: how movies come together. She's a savant ye and she's

488
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 4: also lovely and kind and humble. Yeah, but she can't

489
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 4: viscerate you in a scene. And You're like, some of

490
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: my favorite stuff I've ever done my whole life was

491
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 4: scenes between Madeline and Not on Big Little Lives.

492
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Speaker 1: I'll never forget. I'm letting it rip at each other.

493
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Speaker 5: You better not cancel my daughters. And I was like,

494
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 5: I'm going to Disney on.

495
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: Ice to God Avenue Q being like these temple plot

496
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Speaker 2: points in that show.

497
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Speaker 1: I mean I will also say, like ye show perfection,

498
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: it would know it really was and talk about again

499
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: like yet again like just watching everything about it. I

500
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Speaker 1: mean like in like just the shots of the crashing waves,

501
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: et cetera, white lotus, we see you, we know what

502
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: you got that from, but that you have to feel

503
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: like that probably opened so much up in TV then it.

504
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 5: Was such that was a watershed.

505
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, not just for you but for television.

506
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think because a group of that esteemed

507
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 4: level actresses doing a TV show was unheard of.

508
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 5: Also, just like Nicole myself and.

509
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 4: Laura and Zoe Kravitz and Chailey Whenley like all in

510
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 4: our friendship, you heard more about our friendships than you

511
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 4: heard about our work or what it's going on with

512
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 4: their kids, Like who cares we're best friends angry at

513
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 4: each other?

514
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 5: It was, you know, it was just.

515
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Speaker 4: The inner workings of female relationships. And I think the

516
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 4: really beautiful thing about Big Little Lives is it's actually

517
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Speaker 4: an entire show about domestic violence. Yeah, and it had

518
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 4: this again, this emotional residence where you think it's this

519
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 4: frothy thing, right, but it's actually something very very real

520
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 4: that happens to one in three women, and so you

521
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 4: could laugh about it, right, it's funny. I tend to

522
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: my grudg's little pack and scenes with me and Laura amazing.

523
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 4: We're in a totally different show than Nicole Kimmen and

524
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 4: Alexander Scarnard, absolutely, and it all comes together at the

525
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 4: very end you're like.

526
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 5: Holy shit.

527
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Speaker 1: Well. I think one of the really powerful things was

528
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: the dichotomy of like, there are these women arguing about

529
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: this play and literally blocks over there's this thing happening,

530
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 1: and so yes, there diferent show. It doesn't tell us,

531
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: but it is in one reality, and it is also

532
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: the reality, which is that these things are happening. And

533
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: the shock with which you guys received that information, but

534
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: the immediate way, you know, to protect and act, I

535
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: think was so powerful. And certainly all my female friends,

536
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: that all our female friends that we talked to were

537
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: just like so empowered and emboldened by the fact, like

538
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: we will have each other's backs and that that's what

539
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: that show was about.

540
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 4: And we'll also have joy, and we will also have laughter,

541
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 4: and we'll also be petty and then we'll make up

542
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Speaker 4: for it and.

543
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: Still get into it afterwards.

544
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 5: We're gonna do it and we're gonna have this great

545
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 5: life together.

546
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: But truly, yeah, I feel like that combination of the

547
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 2: frothiness with the weight of something is to transition into

548
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: the Morning show. Is is the thing that we love

549
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: about Morning Show. We've made a lot of light about

550
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: like the campiness of it. Obviously we write it but's

551
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: so good, But especially watching this season, I go, you

552
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: need the campiness.

553
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: I think they're ridiculous.

554
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: You need Bradley Jackson going to space in order to

555
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: talk about these things that even TV now doesn't want

556
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: to tackle, like the pandemic, like the fucking insurrection, like

557
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 2: all of these really fucked up things about the world.

558
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 2: You know. Like I think was that like the vision

559
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: for the show the whole time, because it also mimics

560
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: the dichotomy between morning news shows, which we've had experience

561
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: on now, where it's like, Okay, we're going to talk

562
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: about a war going on in some place at any

563
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: given time, and how do you fold a handkerchief.

564
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: We're going to find out the best way used to plunger.

565
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 4: It's like it's so good that it's like that's life now.

566
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 5: So I think you're right and you call it campy

567
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 5: and soapy, but for me, it's like, where's the the

568
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 5: human experience? Right? So if you you're talking about really

569
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 5: earnest subject matter, you have to lighten it up having

570
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 5: like the news producer and the on air.

571
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 4: Athlete talking about like why why were you late a

572
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: work today?

573
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: That loved that scene by between Oh my God.

574
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 5: Between Karen Pittman and Karen Is.

575
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Speaker 1: I mean, like she's so special. I know, like we

576
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: are Karen Pittman superstans, and she's also one of the

577
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: most stunning individuals on planet Earth. And like Helen of Troy.

578
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 4: Y'all, we both were up in Nashville, really a rock.

579
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 4: She went to the one girl's school to the other

580
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: girls school.

581
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 5: And same age, exact same age, coming out together, and

582
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 5: we finally met on the first season of Morning Show.

583
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 5: So we're natural girls and oh I love this great.

584
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 4: I so celebrate all her wins and she was on

585
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: and just like that, she's just killing it.

586
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: She definitely is. I feel like the thing too about

587
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: about the Morning Show that like I was referencing earlier,

588
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: was when you did go to space and then a

589
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: matter of ten eleven months later, we see the Blue Origin. Yes,

590
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: what did that feel like?

591
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 5: Because they're just forecasters, these writers.

592
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: It's Simpson's level. They predicted it.

593
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 5: It's odd.

594
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's odd because at the end of season one,

595
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 4: in the very last scene, Alex Leevey has a melt

596
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: down and Cameron she's like, screw this bullshit, and there's

597
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 4: and I'm talking about Right before she says it, I'm like,

598
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 4: and there's a mysterious illness on a cruise ship off

599
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: the coast of China. Yeah, and then literally within six

600
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: months it was COVID.

601
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: That episod aired before COVID. I know, crazy, I don't know.

602
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 5: There's some weird woo stuff.

603
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: So they said that's the whole season of the show,

604
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: of the new season, and we freaked. But now I'm like,

605
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: oh gosh, what's what's it going to pretend at the

606
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: end of the season. That's going to befall us?

607
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, But I just love I love the

608
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: tone of the show.

609
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's so fun, it's so enriching. Every

610
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: character is like rich now in the fourth season, and

611
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: even the new entrances like Marion Coti is just so

612
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: perfect in this And when I heard that she was cast,

613
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is that going to feel like? And

614
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: she comes in and she just brings all her marion

615
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: ness to it, and it does feel she feels impenetrable

616
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: and untouchable and very you.

617
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 4: Know, her family owns the entire network now along with

618
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 4: a lot of other assets. In summer sort of maybe

619
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 4: a little dubious unsavory, and it comes around, Yeah, she's

620
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: sort of the queen of this empire's family empire, and

621
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 4: that if they're doing some shady stuff. Yeah, and she's

622
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 4: doing shady stuff all over the don't get me started

623
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: about episode.

624
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: Eight, maybe it's nine, maybe it's not. See a penultimate episode.

625
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: Just wait, that's where the real ship goes to. It's Selene.

626
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: And I said that her name was Selene. I was like,

627
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: that's just perfect, of course it is. Did you name

628
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: Bradley Jackson? Who named Bradley Jackson? No?

629
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Speaker 4: Our original writer Carrie Aaron wrote, Jackie Jackson, it's unforgot

630
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Speaker 4: a very newscaster.

631
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: Totally, but newscaster out of like a rural like network

632
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: who is then spotlet on national television goes back.

633
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: It's like it works both ways.

634
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know it's true and ambitious and ambition a threat.

635
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: We clearly do. Are you a news junkie or do

636
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: you or did you feel? Have you always been? Are you? No?

637
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 4: But I like to read very specific things about technology.

638
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: I'm really interested in technology. Biomedical innovation is really interesting

639
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: to me, and and marketing is really interesting to me,

640
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 4: Like how do you consume? Like figuring out what consumers like?

641
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: I love it and.

642
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: Why and why?

643
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 5: Culture?

644
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: Culture?

645
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 4: How does it move markets like Taylor Swift moving markets

646
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: in cities when her production comes there and economies grow.

647
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 5: Let's talk about that.

648
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that that's interesting to me. Why do people

649
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: like certain people and really can't stand others? Is it

650
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: better for people to for you to be controversial or

651
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: no one cares about you?

652
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: Is the it is the Q rating they run diagnosed.

653
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Speaker 5: You, guys.

654
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: I guess maybe you do? Maybe do wait?

655
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 5: Might want it?

656
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: Okay, you won't want that? Do you?

657
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 5: Guys? Like data?

658
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Speaker 3: Do like?

659
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: But the right?

660
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: I mean there are some little flames that I don't

661
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Speaker 2: want to touch, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: I find it really fast, Like I don't want an

663
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Speaker 5: ORR ring, Like who am I going.

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Speaker 1: To do with that ring? So you're not woo woo.

665
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Speaker 5: Let's talk.

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Speaker 1: What's it giving today?

667
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Speaker 2: My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were

668
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Speaker 2: on a red eye.

669
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Speaker 1: My resilience my grip.

670
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Speaker 2: I gotta get my grip score up, I mean my

671
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Speaker 2: sleep score. Listen, she she tracks the naps with eerie precision.

672
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Speaker 5: But what are you doing with this information?

673
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Speaker 1: Like?

674
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Speaker 5: Does it make you feel better?

675
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Speaker 1: How would you become more resilient?

676
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: How? I Well, it gives me knowledge that I've trended downward, right,

677
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Speaker 2: so I really got it. Okay, let me be more

678
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Speaker 2: intentional about my sleep. Let me be more intentional about

679
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: my like working out in the morning. Let me be

680
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Speaker 2: more intentional about time to read, which I want to

681
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Speaker 2: ask you about. Like it does give some shape to

682
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Speaker 2: the outlook of the day.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

684
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Speaker 1: It gives you a readiness score based on your sleep,

685
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Speaker 1: based on your activity the day before. Okay.

686
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Speaker 4: But if something woke you up in the morning and said,

687
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Speaker 4: you're so tired, you look really tired?

688
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Speaker 1: Are you tired?

689
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Speaker 5: Sleep? God? Why are you tired? I have data you

690
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 5: are one tired?

691
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Speaker 3: And how are you going to.

692
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Speaker 5: Feel for the rest of Today's so susceptible. It will

693
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Speaker 5: tell me how to feel.

694
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Speaker 1: We'll be like, oh, totally.

695
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Speaker 5: I didn't sleep.

696
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Speaker 1: I don't have a crown. I think they give you

697
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Speaker 1: a crown on the score if you are. I don't

698
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Speaker 1: even know.

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Speaker 5: That is just like human behavior one oh one. They're

700
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Speaker 5: trying to like, you know, and you're letting them.

701
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Speaker 1: But the tone is actually quite gentle, like the rest

702
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Speaker 1: place today actually doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Then I'd like to know your saltiness, your sassiness, saltiness

704
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 4: like there should be how much crap can you handle today?

705
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: So this is it's like if you if you did

706
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Speaker 2: like go on a bend or the night before and

707
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: you only got like whatever three hours of sleep, it goes.

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Speaker 2: Maybe think about taking it easy. It's very gentle. Okay, nice, sobriety.

709
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Speaker 1: You need sobriety. No, No, it's loading it up right now.

710
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Speaker 1: But that's what I say.

711
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: It's it's never been like fingerwagy, you're not doing so well?

712
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: This loads up. Well.

713
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Speaker 5: It's also how you hear it.

714
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.

715
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Speaker 4: How you take criticism. I just window in me, don't

716
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: take it well.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was going to ask you that ever, like

718
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Speaker 1: as someone who's like a metrics like and but also

719
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Speaker 1: a sensitive person, as a result of like what you do.

720
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Speaker 1: I've always been like interested in this people that are

721
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Speaker 1: very produced oriial and people that are real. You know,

722
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Speaker 1: you're a business person and so, but you're also an actor,

723
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Speaker 1: and so you maintain a lot of like openness, vulnerability,

724
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Speaker 1: sensitivity in order to do what you do. How do

725
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Speaker 1: you balance those two things as someone who's like out

726
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Speaker 1: there publicly as a product in a way that we

727
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Speaker 1: all are, but also someone who markets that product, Like

728
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Speaker 1: how do that? Like, how do you walk that line

729
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Speaker 1: and maintain this?

730
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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, well that's a good question.

731
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Speaker 4: It has different levels to it too, because when I'm

732
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Speaker 4: in work mode, it's a full different personality. And that's

733
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Speaker 4: where I've kind of been for a while now, the

734
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Speaker 4: acting I have to switch on. I have to kind

735
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Speaker 4: of tune out what's happening in the business and then

736
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: but I knew if I didn't tune in to the

737
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Speaker 4: business and kind of level up, I wasn't going to

738
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Speaker 4: make change.

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Speaker 1: You make it or you may get lost.

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Speaker 5: I would get lost. But I also just think not

741
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 5: enough of it.

742
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Speaker 4: Like I wasn't an executive, but I had to become

743
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Speaker 4: an executive in the last nine years, and I don't

744
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Speaker 4: enjoy it per se, but it's important if I want

745
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Speaker 4: to affect change and actually create a company that has

746
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Speaker 4: enterprise value in a market and see where the ball

747
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 4: is going in terms of media. So I have to

748
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Speaker 4: pay attention.

749
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Speaker 1: To all that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, even so outside of those things, it's like I

751
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: think with Hello Sunshine, you've like created the trend of

752
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: actor starts production company. Great, but that's but what you've

753
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 2: always avoided, which is what's common, is that an actor

754
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: starts production company as a way to be a boom

755
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Speaker 2: to the changing.

756
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Speaker 1: Tides of showbiz.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's ever been true for you, maybe

758
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 2: in the beginning when you were having to like prove

759
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: yourself quote unquote, but now I feel like with the

760
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Speaker 2: pipeline of the book club, you have this way to

761
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: create taste. You are a taste maker more than we are,

762
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Speaker 2: to be sure. So like, what is the difference between like,

763
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Speaker 2: how do you like changing that dial? Has to be

764
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Speaker 2: a very intentional, very difficult thing.

765
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Speaker 4: Well, I think taking some of the intense spotlight I

766
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: had as a very young person, and I learned a

767
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 4: lot about marketing through sitting about meetings, people talking about

768
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 4: me like I was a product and they were like, well,

769
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Speaker 4: it plays well in Russia and Brazil, but it doesn't

770
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Speaker 4: play well in Japan.

771
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Speaker 5: And I was like, you're talking about me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why did they not?

773
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 5: Okay? So I had to learn the deeperson.

774
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Speaker 4: I don't know, and I don't know because they haven't

775
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 4: met me. But no, I started to learn about how

776
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 4: audiences receive information when things trend this way and that way.

777
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: So as I started thinking about a book club as

778
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 4: a business enterprise, right, what were the advantages? First of all,

779
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: being first to market on having read something ahead of time,

780
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Speaker 4: and then going to those authors and saying, first, you

781
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: did the hard work, you broke the back of the story,

782
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 4: These characters are indelible. Can I help you promote it

783
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: with this spotlight that I have? That's all on me,

784
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: But can I shine a little bit on you and

785
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 4: help you out with some marketing stuff online? And then also,

786
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 4: if you feel inclined to give me the first right

787
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 4: of the option.

788
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 5: Let me know.

789
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 4: But there was never like you have to give me

790
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: an option in your book. So I wanted to clarify that.

791
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 4: That was a lot of people say, oh, she got

792
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 4: the first right of refusal. I didn't, but people were

793
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 4: so appreciative of the marketing. And then I also said,

794
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: if you give me the rights, I'm not going to

795
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 4: stick it in development. Hell no, I'm going to work

796
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 4: my ass off on it for two years, and if

797
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Speaker 4: I can't get it made, I'm going to give it

798
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Speaker 4: back to you, you know. And we had a great

799
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Speaker 4: success rate from little fires everywhere to you know, big

800
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Speaker 4: little lies, to morning show to Last Thing You Ever

801
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Speaker 4: told Me?

802
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 5: And now we have another new one coming out with Anya.

803
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 4: Taylor Joy called Lucky, and it's been great where the

804
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: crowd is sing Yes.

805
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Speaker 1: Is it that you're looking at projects and you think, oh,

806
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: this is something I really want to do with Carrie,

807
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: This would be fun to do with her. We always

808
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: joke this podcast started out as a way for us

809
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: to have a playdate, yea once a week and you're

810
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: looking at you you see these things and you're like,

811
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Speaker 1: this is my playdate with Kerry Washington for real?

812
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 5: Yes?

813
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 4: And I get to play with my favorite people, and

814
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: you know what a gift and also empower them. We

815
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 4: all get to make something together and have a blast

816
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: when we're doing it.

817
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 5: So it isn't I don't mean to diminish it and

818
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 5: say it's easy because it's really hard work and long hours,

819
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Speaker 5: and but geez, it's like reaping the rewards of thirty

820
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Speaker 5: years of hard work. It's like it's a I love

821
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Speaker 5: my job. I love it.

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Speaker 1: You can tell. It's so clear that the authors.

823
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Speaker 5: I'm just such a nerd. I read constantly.

824
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Speaker 1: Between reading about technology and biomedical stuff.

825
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Speaker 5: An hour a day, I'll read that, like while I

826
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Speaker 5: took coffee.

827
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Speaker 2: Some total of the day, how much of it is reading?

828
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Speaker 2: Because this is what I want a kind of engineer

829
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Speaker 2: in my own life. I'm like, I gotta read books

830
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Speaker 2: instday instead of scrolling on this.

831
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Speaker 4: I know, and I do think people are kind of

832
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: getting off the phone and saying, like touch grass read

833
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 4: a book, told paper, I read an hour at night.

834
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Speaker 4: I read an hour in the morning and an hour

835
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Speaker 4: and at night, and then I'm on a plane the

836
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Speaker 4: whole plane ride. Yeah, so I can get through a

837
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 4: lot on planes.

838
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Speaker 1: And how much can you ever stop yourself and just

839
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: be like, I'm just going to enjoy this book and

840
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: stop thinking.

841
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 5: About who should play this female ly? Yeah, you know,

842
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 5: go to be amazing in this.

843
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: Cooper, Yeah, as a female lead.

844
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Speaker 4: Kidding, but there's no I think in cinematic terms. I'm

845
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: always casting the movie in my mind.

846
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Speaker 1: Nothing. It is so fun. Nothing wrong with that. Speaking

847
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: of the mind, let's take an odesty into it. We're

848
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: going to ask you the question that we ask everyone

849
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: on our show, which is what was the culture that

850
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: made you say? Culture was? For me?

851
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Speaker 5: There's just like so many things came outo my mind

852
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 5: when we were talking.

853
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: I know, I bet.

854
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 4: I mean when I thought about it, you know, when

855
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: you first asked me, I was like, was it this?

856
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember when MTV started, that was a

857
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 4: big deal in my childhood. And John man Jovi or

858
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,479
Speaker 4: JDJ as I call him, came out with this music

859
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 4: video called Living on a Prayer and he wore these

860
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: thigh high red leather boots.

861
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 5: And you would think resources not like into guys with

862
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Speaker 5: thigh high red leather.

863
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: Oh.

864
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 5: Yes, it was a moment. It was a moment and

865
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Speaker 5: I had a lot.

866
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Speaker 4: There was a long kind of feelings about that, and

867
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Speaker 4: that to me was like MTV Movie Awards and Video

868
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 4: Awards were huge of my childhood because I grew up

869
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 4: in a little town in Tennessee and I was seeing

870
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 4: people like talk about, you know, gender fluidity, whether they

871
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 4: were talking about it, or they were just exhibiting it.

872
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: That was cool.

873
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 4: They were edgy, or like Gwen Stefani came out with

874
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 4: I'm Just a Girl and she had this ska song

875
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: about how women are always sublimated and ignored and underestimated.

876
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 4: I was like, that's my yeah. But as you're sitting here,

877
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, I know what culture

878
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 4: was for me. I remember being going with a group

879
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 4: of friends to the movies and seeing First Wives Club, Oh,

880
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 4: and seeing Diane cuton Yea, Bet Miller and Goldie Hawn

881
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: do that dance at the end. Well yeah, and I

882
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 4: was like, I think I was the only eleven year

883
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 4: old watching it, like.

884
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 5: That's revenge yea.

885
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 4: Their unhappiness is joy and they expressed it through song and

886
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 4: dance and on a huge screen saying you.

887
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 5: Don't know me.

888
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

889
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 5: I was like, this is it.

890
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: That's it. I used to rent that from Blockbuster all

891
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: the time, Like I can't believe my mom just wasn't like, oh,

892
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: my son's gay, like cause it was like I was

893
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: like I was renting it from Blockbuster all the time

894
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: and watching it and I don't remember like the rest

895
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: of them from that time, but that scene. That scene.

896
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 4: By the way, your blockbuster strategy was culture like on

897
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 4: Friday Hit. Were you like the basics that like ran

898
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 4: for the new hits or were you like, m I

899
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: think I'm gonna go rent blue velvet.

900
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 5: It's by data lemb what I would do. The Writer

901
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 5: Film Festival that I was, Oh.

902
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: There was I'll never forget walking down the aisle and

903
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: I saw Batman Forever and Nicole Kidman had her Veronica

904
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: care and I said, I know something about myself as

905
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: a result of the way I'm reacting to this picture.

906
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: And I took that movie and one day when she

907
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: sits in this seat, I will tell her that that doctor.

908
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: Chase her hair is seared into my consciousness. Yes, it's

909
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: a core memory for her.

910
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: Her like it's like it's like a noir scene and

911
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: she gathers up her her like limons and she goes

912
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: over to like you know that the curtains blowing, and

913
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: then Batman comes and they're having this scene, and I'm like,

914
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: that might have been a little bit of an awakening

915
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: for me, to be honest with you, that was my

916
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: block question.

917
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: Like it's all coming back to me now. It's like

918
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: like women at a window with linens.

919
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: You know, linens and blowing in the breeze. Yeah, that

920
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: was my But your blockbuster strategy is your culture, because

921
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: it would be like, are you gonna go to the

922
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: wall with the new releases where it's like ten twenty

923
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: copies of one thing?

924
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: Or are you gonna slowly peruse the aisles? And I'm

925
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: like nine years old, I'm going, what's the deer Hunter?

926
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: Like? Not like like Deerhunter?

927
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 4: Well, and I was a Goldiehank completed, so it was

928
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: either Overboard or Wildcats. When I had to go to

929
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 4: Overboard and then I could get I could always get

930
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 4: a group of kids to kind of watch what I

931
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 4: wanted to watch.

932
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: I was considered like still producing them.

933
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 5: I was like, you guys just don't know follow me.

934
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: It was huge, huge, Yeah, she was huge.

935
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 5: And went on a writer was huge and I felt

936
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 5: like I felt like I knew her.

937
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeahure Overboard I almost had to wait. That movie is everything.

938
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: It's zered me. But this everything the end of First

939
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: Wife's Club is like this light that's refracted into three

940
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: different beams among those women, and you had you could

941
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: choose all three of them to model yourself after, Like

942
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: even for us. It's like, I want to be all

943
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: of them.

944
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 4: Well, in your light, your life wasn't a result of

945
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 4: what the bad relationships that had happened to you. It

946
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: was what your friendships that were gonna help you rise

947
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 4: above and overcome.

948
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: And how interesting I came back around for.

949
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 5: You, I know, and you know who knew that. We

950
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 5: just talked about it.

951
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: We do know. It's funny. It's like someone said to

952
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: me one time, like you'll look back on your career

953
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: and you'll see you'll see it through line. And so

954
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: it's funny. You talk about ambition being a through line,

955
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: you talk about female friendship being a through line, and

956
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: to be where you're at now and know that those

957
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: things have stayed consistent but also inspired people. That has

958
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: to be really really, really really special.

959
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I feel lucky that I continue I get

960
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 5: to do it. I get to continue to do it

961
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 5: at a really high level. What's really fun people is

962
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 5: really awesome. But I had a friends say.

963
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 4: To me the other day, she said, you know, do

964
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: you feel like you were born with a finite amount

965
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 4: of stories to tell and you've told a lot of them.

966
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: Why would she say that? Oh?

967
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 4: She was an author and she's probably sixty one or something,

968
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 4: and she's like, I feel like I'm kind of rewrapping

969
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: every story, but it's always the same theme.

970
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: But that's okay.

971
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe we're.

972
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 4: All here for a purpose that you have to find,

973
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 4: as Oprah would say, you have to find your purpose,

974
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 4: you know, or what like do you know the themes

975
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 4: of your storytelling lives?

976
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: Not?

977
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: It's coming into focus, okay slowly, And for you to

978
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: say that, like, like when would you say that?

979
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 5: It came into focus for me until I was thirty

980
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 5: four to thirty five.

981
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: We're at that age basically, So it's weird.

982
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 4: That, like people pleasing starts to diminish and you start

983
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: to go, oh wait, what I've been doing.

984
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 5: Is kind of good? Is I'm kindling?

985
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: Right?

986
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 4: Like I've had one success and it's building on another,

987
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 4: and now it's time for me to slip into ali

988
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 4: ship role and start being and you'll start to see

989
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 4: I mean you probably already seeing this. People are looking

990
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 4: at you and going what do you want to do?

991
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: Instead of going can.

992
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 5: You please cast me? Or can you please put me

993
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 5: in exces? And so you have to spend that good

994
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 5: look at me like life coaching your head I feel something.

995
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 4: I like, you guys are super creative, and it's important

996
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 4: that when you figure that out for yourself, your life

997
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 4: opens up in a beautiful way and you start to

998
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 4: go on a different path where it's like, Okay, I'm

999
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 4: only going to follow those those threads that serve my

1000
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 4: real purpose and let people into my life that are

1001
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 4: helping that purpose.

1002
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: It's funny when you know yes too, because it's like,

1003
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: I feel like when I was younger growing up, like

1004
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: and I had that moment where I was watching the

1005
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: Oscars and I was it was I think I was

1006
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: eight years old. We always talk about that same that

1007
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: Titanic Oscars, we call it. That was the moment I

1008
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: looked in the screen and I was like like, oh,

1009
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to be here. I'm supposed to be

1010
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: with them. And then you get in the industry and

1011
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: you understand more about it, and you work and you

1012
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: get the awards thing, and you maybe even get to

1013
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: a point like you where you win the Oscar, and

1014
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: yet it's not like you hit the jackpot and won

1015
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: the game and now the rest of your life is roses.

1016
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: You still had struggles after that Oscar in terms of

1017
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: being taken seriously as a producer, is that that must

1018
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: have been something that you really felt, like, I've won

1019
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: an Oscar and yet still you know what I mean?

1020
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 4: And you hear that over and over and over again

1021
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 4: that there's a curse, but there's like, what are they

1022
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: going to open a magic you know, vault with the

1023
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: great scripts that they've been waiting to give you.

1024
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: No, it's not.

1025
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 5: It's actually it's.

1026
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 4: An opportunity to start creating your own right. But I

1027
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 4: didn't understand that and it took me four years to

1028
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 4: figure it out.

1029
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're thinking, after you win the Oscar for

1030
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: a walk the line, it's incredible. Yeah, you think it's

1031
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: gonna get easier. They're gonna all of a sudden, I'm

1032
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: gonna be where you know so and so is. And

1033
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you say, wait, who am

1034
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: I talking about? Is so and so? Because we're all

1035
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: here women in Hollywood even at this level, and it's

1036
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: not like there's like this abundance.

1037
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 4: Right, and yeah, exactly, you nail it, and there is

1038
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 4: an Oscar curse.

1039
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 5: I think it feels like I mean, I think there's

1040
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 5: empirical data at this point.

1041
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, for data, people people there were people who like,

1042
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, but it's interesting. I guess it's interesting what

1043
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: ultimately does give you that satisfaction in purpose. It's like,

1044
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: of course whenning the oscar probably felt incredible, like I

1045
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: would love to win one, but you know that it's

1046
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: about what you can provide to people and what you

1047
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: can like be a part of that really affects change.

1048
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: Probably someone coming up to you that watched Big Little

1049
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: Lies and said I felt empowered to say something, or

1050
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: I asked my friend if they were okay, you know,

1051
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: or I made sure that I just hang out with

1052
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: my female friends more as a result of watching that.

1053
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: That probably can give you something that an oscar never comes.

1054
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 4: Oh my god, morning show people talking about I was

1055
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 4: harassed in my workplace and I have a voice, and

1056
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 4: you illuminated in the show, and now everybody at work

1057
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 4: is behaving differently. Yeah, so a lot of the way

1058
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 4: our amazing friends who work in the corporate world have

1059
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 4: to walk through a lot of sublimation and humiliation or

1060
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 4: just it has radically changed in the past seven years.

1061
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 4: And was boarding structures and harassment is actually like that's

1062
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 4: not flirting, that's actually like leave me, I'm interested and.

1063
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: Even the jokes about like can you believe we can't

1064
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: do this are now met with like, shut up up,

1065
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I've been how many times,

1066
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: like when you get cast on a new project, you

1067
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: have like, you know, the sexual harassment training, and it's

1068
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: the people who are like I can't believe this. When

1069
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: I was on fifteen years ago, it's like, okay, dude, okay,

1070
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: like listening to yourself.

1071
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 4: I've had people roll their eyes during it, and it

1072
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 4: was usually people who were harassing people exactly.

1073
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: But I can't tell you I like your sure, and

1074
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: it's like, no, you can tell me you like my

1075
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: shirt and you know the difference. Yeah, And so the

1076
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: fact that you're stunting on this right now is inappropriate.

1077
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: But then people want attention.

1078
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 5: Real, you know. But I think Morning Show is great

1079
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 5: too because we get to watch things shift.

1080
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: Right.

1081
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: So we were there during Mean too, we were talking

1082
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 4: about workplace harassment. Now we're here talking about the mano

1083
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 4: verse and the rise of the male podcaster having massive influence.

1084
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: Perfect in the Great White is amazing and he has,

1085
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 4: you know, this ease and charm about him, but he's

1086
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 4: also kind of a.

1087
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 5: Good old boy.

1088
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 4: It works that character too, and so I think it's

1089
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 4: it's great that we can talk about journalism in this

1090
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 4: way that you know, we're not attacking anybody, but we're

1091
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 4: just sort of illuminating how disturbing it is that people

1092
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 4: are getting their news sources from people who are maybe

1093
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 4: not experts and the things are talking about.

1094
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: Well, that's one of the biggest problems I have with

1095
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 1: I mean, in our in our podcasting community. When suddenly

1096
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: a lifestyle podcast or a comedy podcast host thinks that

1097
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: they can have a politician on their show and have

1098
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: a real conversation with them, I just don't think it's

1099
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: something that we should be doing. We're not qualified necessarily

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Speaker 1: to do that.

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Speaker 5: Well, do think it's port to say that?

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Speaker 1: You know, during the election, we were pitched Democratic politicians

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00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: to come on here, residential candidates, and we had to

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Speaker 1: pass because I was like, I think then I would

1105
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: have to and Bowen would have to follow up with

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00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: some with some topics, and like, I don't know if

1107
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: you want this person on our show, right, I don't

1108
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: know if it's best for us to do this.

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00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 4: It's so good to trust your instincts, because again, what

1110
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 4: is your purpose here?

1111
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,959
Speaker 5: Are you having great political news.

1112
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: No, we should make people happy. Guys.

1113
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 5: You make people happy.

1114
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly like having your own award show. You watch it,

1115
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 4: you guys come on.

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Speaker 3: With that.

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00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: We just sort of try to make each other laugh

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00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: and if we do it, we just all of that.

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00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 5: And did you tell people like guests that they had

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Speaker 5: to come on to accept their awards?

1121
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: Well did they just want to? We so behind the curtain.

1122
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: It was our amazing, amazing, amazing team to help us

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Speaker 2: an amazing I can't I can't.

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Speaker 5: Believe you watched it. I can't believe repeated some clips.

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Speaker 5: So we're very fuddy.

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Speaker 1: You're invited any years. The thing is like I literally

1127
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: was thinking. I was like, no, the first time we

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Speaker 1: meet rees has to be like this.

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Speaker 2: And then we're going to open the box anyway it's there,

1130
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: but no, we just know we like. Look, it was

1131
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: a lot of work because it was just the two

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Speaker 2: of us plus two writers, which is very understaffed in

1133
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: terms of award show. It was we wrote all the

1134
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: presenter copy, all the speeches because everyone was like, we

1135
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: don't know what this is yet because it had been

1136
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: so we had to write all the speeches. We like,

1137
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Speaker 2: we did everything.

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Speaker 5: How long does that take you guys a couple.

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00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: Couple of months. And that really challenging part was that moment.

1140
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: And this is why I like it's great to talk

1141
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: to you is because then you suddenly have to be like, oh,

1142
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: I'm snapping into be talent now, and now we have

1143
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: to learn Abracadabra by Lady Gaga, my god, the dance,

1144
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: and that's when I that's when I finally was like,

1145
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Speaker 1: I have an anxiety problem and I'm getting on plaw

1146
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Speaker 1: okay because this Abrica dabra dance almost took me out?

1147
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Speaker 4: And so can we talk about our relationship to anxiety?

1148
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 4: And like, yes, can we? Because I want to hear

1149
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Speaker 4: tools that you've learned and what I've learned. And it's

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Speaker 4: real you talk about I'm a high anxiety person, okay, And.

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Speaker 1: So I'm actually really happy to hear you say that

1152
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Speaker 1: because sometimes I think when someone talks about themselves as

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Speaker 1: ambitious and I identify with that, it's sort of what

1154
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: people don't say is the amount of anxiety that sometimes

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00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: can be driving that ambition or accompanying that ambition. So

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Speaker 1: even just to hear you label it as being as

1157
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Speaker 1: your ambition being a symptom or how do you think

1158
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Speaker 1: of it?

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Speaker 4: I mean anxiety manifest itself depression because it looks like

1160
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 4: anxieties times too, so it can be really highly performance space,

1161
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 4: like you have to perform, you have to show up,

1162
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 4: which is a lot of my anxiety.

1163
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 5: So I used to have panic attacks, bad panic attacks.

1164
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: Like crying, and I tried meditation. It's hard for me

1165
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 4: to listen. I also have like smady d stuff, so

1166
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 4: I can't listen to stuff for very long. Honestly, this

1167
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 4: sounds so crazy, but I worked with a hypnotist who

1168
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 4: also did in no medice.

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Speaker 5: I took medicine. Sometimes I'd have to take at a

1170
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 5: van to calm down, and then it would make me

1171
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 5: feel like a zombie.

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Speaker 4: And then I wasn't informing. That's depressing, and I wasn't

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Speaker 4: performing at the level.

1174
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Speaker 5: I wanted to, and I wasn't as funny. But by

1175
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Speaker 5: the way, PS, if you need medicine, please take the.

1176
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Speaker 1: Medicine very individual.

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Speaker 5: Don't be a hero.

1178
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Speaker 4: Yes, and I'm not a doctor. Don't need to put

1179
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 4: that little thing a doctor. But I started doing some

1180
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 4: work about with a hypnotist and she actually works with

1181
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Speaker 4: the same called neuralin linguistic programming, so it's called NLP,

1182
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 4: and she helped me realize that I was going to

1183
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 4: get to the same results, but I could get rid

1184
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 4: of all the anxiety.

1185
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Speaker 1: And yeah, when was that.

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Speaker 5: I was thirty thirty four imaginal.

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Speaker 1: Five and so this was this was I think, I've well,

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00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: how long we've we've been now, like like engaging with

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Speaker 1: the center real way for like what two years a

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00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: year each? Yeah? Sure, so always thinking like what if

1191
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: I dull myself or you know what I mean, lots

1192
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: of our friends with mental health stuff.

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Speaker 5: Like I don't drink too much and then I was like,

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00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 5: why am I doing this?

1195
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 4: I don't feel good or I taken out of van

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00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 4: and I was sleepy or so that actually changed my

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Speaker 4: whole life. And I want people to know anxiety is real.

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Speaker 4: And when I see girls going through it, our guys

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Speaker 4: going through and they post videos and they're I'm like

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Speaker 4: want to hug them. I what makes want to cry

1201
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 4: because it's very real and you're not alone and you

1202
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 4: can calm yourself down. There's tools to calm yourself down.

1203
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Speaker 2: I mean, there is no magic, single solution. I think

1204
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: it is just you finding like on an individualized level,

1205
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: like the matrix of things that can help you through.

1206
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, but the cornerstone of that work is

1207
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 4: understanding that you're going to perform at the same level

1208
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 4: whether you're stressed about it or not stressed about it. Yeah,

1209
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 4: so decide to take the stress out. And she has

1210
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 4: a lot of exercises where you talk to yourself after

1211
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 4: you've completed the task. You've done this show, you're walking backstage,

1212
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 4: you guys are like going, you're reviewing, and you're happy,

1213
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 4: and so you kind of just tell yourself ahead of time,

1214
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 4: we're going to get there. The way I process it

1215
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 4: is actually who I am and how I show up

1216
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 4: as a leader.

1217
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Speaker 2: Sure, but the cognitive script that you have to undo,

1218
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: which is I'm sure the work that you did is

1219
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: to go. But now, I mean the way that I

1220
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: do it, even if I like the anxiety and the

1221
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: stress is just the way through.

1222
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: That's the journey.

1223
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: Like, like, at what point do you believe that to

1224
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: be true, that like you don't need.

1225
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: All this stuff in the middle, that you will perform

1226
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: at the same level.

1227
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 5: When you can let the compliments in.

1228
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: Ah, you hear that my big issue.

1229
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 5: But just sit down at the end of the night,

1230
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 5: maybe even like just circle certain texts or take a

1231
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 5: screenshot and like give yourself a moment and let it end. Yeah,

1232
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 5: because you really are that talented and you really really

1233
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 5: deserves where you're at.

1234
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: And but even if it's just quiet and private to

1235
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: you totally, you know, one last thing before we move on.

1236
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, And I would have always

1237
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you, Okay, yeah, I would have always

1238
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: wanted to ask is And what we kind of maybe

1239
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: brought up earlier with the book club, it's like people

1240
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: assumed that like you have the like you have first

1241
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 2: look at everything, right, that must be a frustrating thing.

1242
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: And that is probably two things. One's the estimate underestimation

1243
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: that we've talked about, which is another through line with

1244
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 2: the ambition. The other is people projecting things onto you,

1245
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 2: Reese Witherspoon, this accomplished, high functioning, beautiful, charming, decorated person.

1246
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 2: But then but then at what point does that like

1247
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: work against things at a certain point?

1248
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: I don't wait, No, that's not everything there is about me.

1249
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 5: I mean, people assume things about me. I don't know

1250
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 5: what they assume about me.

1251
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't understand it.

1252
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: I don't club it's like the book club though it's like, well,

1253
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: she must get first. It's like they just assume that

1254
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: you have these things at your fingertips when you have

1255
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: to work hard for them.

1256
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think no, I think like the joke is

1257
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 4: out about me that I work.

1258
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 5: Really no, I don't know if people assume like things that.

1259
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 4: What really gets my oat is people assuming things about

1260
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 4: my friends or women who are in the spotlight drives

1261
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 4: me up a wall that you think you understand someone's

1262
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 4: emotional experience when you have never met them, yes, and

1263
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 4: you project things on them like sometimes I'll get on

1264
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 4: my comments about people my life who've had kids and

1265
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 4: people in my life who haven't head kids, and there's

1266
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 4: a massive judgment there on either side, right, and it's

1267
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 4: just not cool. Yeah, we need to not do that too,

1268
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 4: And don't assume that people don't have any consciousness about

1269
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 4: children even if they haven't given birth to them out

1270
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 4: of their body of Christ.

1271
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Speaker 5: You know that really bad?

1272
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: Oh, that's that This whole conversation that's like, this is

1273
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: so leary.

1274
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I thought I was coming in to do

1275
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 4: I don't think so honey about something very light.

1276
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: Well, remember when you said before we get into I

1277
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, I have one more thing. You

1278
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: fuked up because I have one more thing. Now, don't

1279
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: think that you're going to come out lost culturist. That's

1280
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: the podcast and we're not going to at least bring

1281
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: up Big Little last season three. All right, so as

1282
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: you go, okay on look down, I just feel like

1283
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: we do need it, and I would like to ask

1284
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: in a real way about like how much brain space

1285
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: that takes up for you on the on the on

1286
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: the day to day, and like what we thinking about

1287
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: we talking about I mean.

1288
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 4: The idea of it is so exciting to me. And

1289
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 4: then this is where my anxiety and perfectionism and ambition

1290
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 4: comes in.

1291
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And I don't want to do it you,

1292
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: of course it does.

1293
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 5: So I'm not going to give it to you guys,

1294
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 5: but you know it will be Chris.

1295
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: Can I say, and the best And I like I

1296
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: You're just one of my like number ones, and like,

1297
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: so I will say Big Little Eyes Season one, episode six,

1298
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: The scene with you and Catherine Newton where she's out

1299
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: on the hammock and you're going to over to her

1300
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: to confront her about the fact that she's going to

1301
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: like sell her virginity on the internet, and when you

1302
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: tell her your secret about the fact that you had

1303
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: stepped out on Adam Scott, that to me was just

1304
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: like that was like rece That scene was like there

1305
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: was so much fire in their spirit and there was

1306
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: vunerability and that there was there was all this Like

1307
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: I just think that's character is like the character that

1308
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: you were like porn to play after all of them

1309
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: and you've done You've brought so much to life in

1310
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: these different ways. But I feel like Madeline Martha Mackenzie

1311
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: is like that's that's like the one, and I just

1312
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: hope that in season three she tears it up. Thank you.

1313
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to say. I have that big

1314
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: little lies. That's that's Madeline show.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna pick your brain for cool set pieces too,

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01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,439
Speaker 4: because I think what's important too is, yes, you get

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01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 4: all the wonderful in our personal dynamics and you get

1318
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 4: all the friendships and all the great women, but we

1319
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 4: really live for our set pieces too.

1320
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh god, whether it's.

1321
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 4: You know, the trivia night where we all dress like

1322
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 4: Audrey Hepburn or we just got girlfriend and daughter, So

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01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 4: those are really important to me too, and like it

1324
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 4: all has to cook into this beautiful, delicious meal.

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Speaker 5: It has to be perfect.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they do such an amazing job. You all

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01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: do such an amazing job at picking those places too.

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01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: I remember that you guys wanted to go get coffee

1329
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: at a place one time. This is when you have

1330
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: the scene with Meryll and she reads you for being short,

1331
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: like I just like this outdoor coffee spot where you

1332
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: ordered an Americano. I was like, I want to go

1333
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: order an Americana at that place. I love everything about

1334
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: that show.

1335
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 4: The fact that the show was so yummy that Meryl

1336
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 4: was like, yes, I want to do it.

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01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: She was like. Tracy was like me, you brought Meryl

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01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:33,439
Speaker 1: to TV?

1339
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 4: Nicole did? She called Nicole and she was like, I

1340
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 4: gotta be in your show.

1341
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: And that's how I would imagine. And you said something

1342
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: one time. I think it was when you were giving

1343
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: a tribute to to Nicole where you were talking about

1344
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 1: how like Nicole calls and she's like, you've got to understand.

1345
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 6: This director, we must get her that she does say

1346
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 6: stuff like must go in a girl's trip, I have

1347
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 6: to have a tequila, we have to we must.

1348
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 5: She really does yeah, she really does.

1349
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: She needs and she is.

1350
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 5: She's like you and I were the property girlies. We

1351
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 5: love to buy properties.

1352
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: Please, She's totally right, great folks. Seventy three questions, by

1353
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: the way, get.

1354
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 5: Real estate questions call us?

1355
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: Did you really do that back flip on that trampoline?

1356
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: And that was really because for a second I was like,

1357
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: did that this in vogue? Ye did? Yeah.

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01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 4: I was a gymnast when I was a little I

1359
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 4: was a diver in a gymnast.

1360
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: You were a diver, you were.

1361
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 5: I was taking big risks and it was a very small.

1362
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: Statue, very big gymnastics for your uneven bars, queen.

1363
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 4: I was more floor beam beam, so scary. All the

1364
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 4: short queens love beam because you know, low center grapty.

1365
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: My sister was too tall to be doing gymnastics and

1366
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: we would just be white knuckling into the girls going

1367
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: down like.

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01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 5: Just legs and arms and legs was.

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01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: Good for her, sorry, Charlesious. And there's there's symbolism in that. Okay,

1370
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 2: it's not for I don't think so, honey.

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01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: Yes this is I don't think so honey. It's our

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01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: sixty second second Moore, We take a minute, which really,

1373
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: if you crack it down is sixty seconds to rant

1374
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: and really take down something in culture that's been gunning us.

1375
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: And I was thinking earlier about like you know, how

1376
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: you see the threads in your work. This kind of

1377
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: feeds into what I'm saying. Exciting. Okay, okay, this is

1378
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers. I don't think sony as time starts now,

1379
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. People telling me I can't

1380
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: say y'all, I can't say y'all even though I'm from

1381
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: Long Island, New York. Yea right, you is a catch

1382
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: all because I'll tell you what I'm not doing, folks.

1383
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm not doing folks. I can say you all you

1384
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: guys like of course you guys is like you know,

1385
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it lives inside me.

1386
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 7: But I can say y'all. You know who else says

1387
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,479
Speaker 7: y'all bowen yang every now and then. Also, don't come

1388
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 7: for me for code switching. Okay. Co switching is how

1389
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 7: I survived. It is the theme in my work thus far.

1390
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 7: I'm sure it will remain. It's true.

1391
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: Code switching for professional survival and social survival. And y'all

1392
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:36,479
Speaker 1: can relax fifteen seconds because I am not gonna stop

1393
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: saying it, probably because also Kelly Clarkson is one of

1394
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: my formative cultures at the age of twelve, and she

1395
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 1: was like, y'all, y'all, y'all on I am recond idol

1396
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: and I did imprint on her and Reese is here

1397
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: and I've made it clear how much I love her.

1398
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: So y'all, I don't think so, honey, And that's one man.

1399
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: Y'all's big for me.

1400
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 4: That was so good that thanks, But do you know

1401
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Yeah, y'all belong to everyone.

1402
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: So national noted. Thank you Nashville queen. All right, so

1403
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: you're allowing it? Yes, of course, open up the gates.

1404
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: Open up the gates now. I just remember at Sweet Home,

1405
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: Alabama when you got to the dog's grave. You know

1406
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: who loved that, Roger Ebert. Roger, I'm telling you, I'm

1407
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have the bibliography.

1408
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 3: How do you know?

1409
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: I love you? You're amazing. You know you're my favorite.

1410
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 5: I think you know that Roger Ebert loved that scene

1411
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:31,799
Speaker 5: of me crying over my dad.

1412
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 1: Talk Sweet Home Alabama in his review. I remember this

1413
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: from when I was reading like the reviews, like way

1414
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: back when it was like Roger Ebert was like, I

1415
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 1: think he gave the movie like a two and a

1416
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: half star review or whatever. And then he was like,

1417
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: but the thing is Reese when she gets down and

1418
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: she does that, you'll like that speech to the dog.

1419
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: And I was like reading it and I was like, Mom,

1420
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: we have to go to the movies. We have to

1421
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: see Sweet Alabama. She's like, okay, no skin off my back. No, yes,

1422
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: of course, y'all know we're studied the bruiser. What's this

1423
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 1: I'm telling you is that's a deep cut obviously. Ellewoods

1424
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: speaking of I've got my own things. So okay, here

1425
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: we go and I and I'm swinging big and this

1426
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: might not go over well, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna

1427
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: do it, and you are allowed to respond however you

1428
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: would like. Okay, he's a chemistry major from n Yu.

1429
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: Before we get into it, okay, this is Bowen Yang's

1430
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I

1431
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey.

1432
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 2: Elle Wood's pronouncing it ammonium thiaglocolate when the pronunciation is

1433
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 2: ammonium thioglicolate theo glicolly.

1434
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: I fucked it up, too, Oh you so how damn

1435
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: I like Elle.

1436
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: I was a chemistry major and I couldn't even do it.

1437
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: So I guess I have no fucking leg to stand on.

1438
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: And Elle herself with her working knowledge, the rules of

1439
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: beauty are care finite.

1440
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: Any Cosmo girl would have any Cosmo girl would have

1441
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: known thirty seconds. I think for that to be the

1442
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: punch that threw Chutney in jail, love you Linda, Oh

1443
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: my god, we love Linda in this house, I think

1444
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: the impact would have been even greater. I think it

1445
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: has thrown industrial chemistry in disarray since the year two

1446
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: thousand because they have not known how to pronounce this name.

1447
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 2: That it's thrown even me off. And it really was

1448
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 2: a bump of the road of ice chemistry education. But

1449
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 2: I could never be met at Elwoods. I could ever

1450
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 2: be met at Reese. It's one of the best movies

1451
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: of all time, and that's what I meant. I'm so

1452
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 2: sorry I fucked it up.

1453
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: But see Emmonium. I Glockley lives in my head forever now.

1454
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 1: It's how it's pronounced.

1455
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 5: Was it a topic like did you guys talk about it?

1456
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 2: We did not talk about it, but it's like you

1457
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 2: you must understand that it did confuse the community. It's like,

1458
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 2: how do we pronounce this chemical? This module?

1459
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 5: I mean you were influenced that I was correct twenty

1460
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 5: five years later. But you know, el Woods is a

1461
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 5: fashion and merchandise major.

1462
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: Sh She's not. Oh I have a four point now wait,

1463
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: but I want you to know. Also, did you know

1464
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: they show at n y U I went to dramatic

1465
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 1: writing school a Titian m Yu. They show the opening

1466
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: sequence of Legally Blonde to show how to establish tone

1467
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: of passed. Really yeah, it's like there's like a whole

1468
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: scene and like just every of the girl riding in

1469
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: the bike, and it gets you bruiser, what's this? And

1470
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 1: then you open it up. They show that whole thing,

1471
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 1: and we did a whole day about how like that

1472
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: is a perfect way to establish the tone of a

1473
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: movie and get the audience ready for what's to come.

1474
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 5: Oh wow, yeah, I think that's so great.

1475
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, I can't even watch the beginning of the

1476
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 4: movie because they replace somebody my hands with somebody else's

1477
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 4: hands and I can't look at it. And that's just

1478
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 4: my little side scoop. You understand, I need to just

1479
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 4: I mean this isn't my things.

1480
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 5: I can't. I don't think so anybody.

1481
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 4: It was like hand doubles that don't look like the humans,

1482
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 4: like I can't. No, I spend a lot of time

1483
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 4: picking feet doubles.

1484
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: You.

1485
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 5: I also through me.

1486
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: With ad R. Whenever I see something as even a

1487
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: little bit idio. No, I mean like you're good at it.

1488
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: But when you when I'm watching it and like I

1489
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: can tell thing is ad R, I'm like out.

1490
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally, yeah, that's hard.

1491
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: I think I think we're pretty good at it. I

1492
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: just did some and for I wasn't even supposed to

1493
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: say that I'm on it, but I did.

1494
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 4: Sorry, just comes out in a little you know, people excited,

1495
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 4: we want to keep.

1496
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: Doing it. Was so I'll show you a picture of

1497
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 1: my It was so, oh my god, they're going to

1498
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: be mad. But it was so like rich. I was like, Wow,

1499
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: to be on a set that like a period has

1500
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: a budget like this is crazy.

1501
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 5: You know, the costumes the same person as Big Little Eyes.

1502
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I was gagging for the costume designer. She didn't

1503
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 1: say that.

1504
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 4: Though, Yeah, oh my god, she's amazing. She's helped like

1505
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 4: Laura darn and she worked really close yes, for years

1506
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 4: and years.

1507
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you after.

1508
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 5: And I mean the looks it looks for.

1509
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: That was one of those shows to where it's like

1510
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: they're going to do a measurement fitting and I was like, Okay, cool,

1511
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: I think I'm going in for a fitting every every

1512
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 1: single of your everything that I was wearing a fully

1513
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: espiedo in the whole thing. So I was just like, Okay,

1514
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if we needed this. They're like, they're

1515
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: gonna make your glove set everything. I just again, I

1516
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: was like, I need those measurements for.

1517
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 5: Something, your gloves size.

1518
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: Though I don't think I do not off the top

1519
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: of the dome. Not off the dome. I'm a fifteen

1520
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: neck all right. Anyway, we gotta get you out here

1521
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 1: because you have to do I don't think Sonny and

1522
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: this is gonna be iconic?

1523
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 5: Do I really.

1524
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: The first person ever to not do one? And that

1525
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: could be iconic? You get anything to do. Don't put

1526
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: that thought in her head. Okay, she has something, she's

1527
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Speaker 1: got something.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're kidding me. That is topics. I'm just like,

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Speaker 5: which one's George you?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Like I'm picking what's right for today.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because like what's on my mind is when I

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Speaker 1: came in there's like somebody that came up to me

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Speaker 1: at a party and was like said, said something terrible

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Speaker 1: my friend.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, no, you're gonna tell we're gonna be friends.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go. This is.

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Speaker 4: But then like I also want to talk about is

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Speaker 4: like people who bring smelly food on like the trains

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Speaker 4: and on the airplane and like oh okay.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and if you feel thirty seconds.

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Speaker 4: Also, I have another thing, which is like standing in

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Speaker 4: line for a cinnamon roll, Like why are we doing

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Speaker 4: this with our lives?

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Speaker 1: This? I think this, I think cinnamon roll, cinnamon roll. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: do this and know the form is yours to break. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if thirty seconds in you want to talk about your friend,

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Speaker 1: do that up to you. Here we go. This is

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Speaker 1: Reese Witherspoons. I don't think so, honey, her time starts now.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why people do this, but why why

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Speaker 4: do you stand in line for like a cinnamon.

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Speaker 5: Roll you saw on TikTok.

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Speaker 4: What like a special food or something like you should

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Speaker 4: touch grass, you should touch grass, you should read a book? Oh,

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Speaker 4: like you know and I have friends who will spend

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Speaker 4: all day searching TikTok is like a search tool for

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Speaker 4: places to take a picture, places to eat special foods,

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Speaker 4: and they will stand in line for hours and hours

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Speaker 4: and hours and hours for sour dough bread, and I

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Speaker 4: just can't.

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Speaker 1: Can't is that they want to stand in line secretly,

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Speaker 1: but they don't want to tell people.

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Speaker 4: No one ever wanted to stand in line ever for

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Speaker 4: anything ever, and especially not a bake good like no,

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Speaker 4: Like sometimes I get it about like those beautiful drinks

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Speaker 4: that have like the frosty meringue tops, like that's cute

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Speaker 4: and it's gonna look cute on your feed. Cinnamon rolls

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Speaker 4: are not cute in pictures. I don't want to see it,

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Speaker 4: and I really don't want.

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Speaker 5: To hear about it. Five seconds, Okay, I really don't.

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Speaker 4: I also want to stand in line for lip gloss,

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Speaker 4: the one that does.

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Speaker 1: Feel like something that is not in my culture because

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Speaker 1: it's never had to be but lip gloss. It's to

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Speaker 1: be standing in line.

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Speaker 5: Get a grip.

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Speaker 1: What's worth standing in line for?

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Speaker 4: Ooh okay, a really amazing once in a lifetime live performance.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you know, like somebody you are really moved.

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Speaker 1: By what's your favorite concert you've ever seen?

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Speaker 4: Well, the thing that's coming to mine is, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: come on, so many things. Well, Gwen Stefani when I

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Speaker 4: was twelve, Yeah, no, I wasn't. I was like twenty

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Speaker 4: when she came.

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Speaker 1: What am I talking about?

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Speaker 5: I saw in Minnesota. I was making a movie with

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Speaker 5: Paul Right.

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Speaker 4: It was called Delivery is a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible movie.

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Speaker 4: We had the best time. Sarah Silverman was had one

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Speaker 4: line in the whole movie. She was hysterically funny. That's

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Speaker 4: when we made friends. And it was just a time.

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Speaker 4: And we were in Minnesota and it was the beginning

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Speaker 4: of SKA and girl punk and just all the rising

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Speaker 4: talent and it was really fun. And I went and

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Speaker 4: saw Gwen Stefani in the tiny, tiny theater love it

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Speaker 4: and it was cool and she was just a girl,

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Speaker 4: but she really wasn't.

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Speaker 1: She did Coachella last year and it felt like and

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Speaker 1: it was no doubt, so it did feel like we

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Speaker 1: were back. It was it was just.

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Speaker 4: The way she was, like, I'm just a girl, yeah

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Speaker 4: in the world.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was every feeling I've read.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was a total beast, is a total beast.

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Speaker 5: She contained multitudes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, of course, and a strong red lips always and.

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Speaker 5: A pony and I just can't it was small.

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Speaker 1: And also what what What blew my mind was realizing

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Speaker 1: she was having to bleach her hair all the time

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Speaker 1: and she still has it.

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Speaker 5: That's weird. That's a mystery.

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Speaker 1: I had a bleach blonde moment all of last year

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Speaker 1: and would have gone falls out. She's burnt, so I

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Speaker 1: don't know how she's doing it. But you're still to

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Speaker 1: this day. Sponsor, Well, listen, this has been.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, you guys, and I feel so glad

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Speaker 5: we finally did that.

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Speaker 1: And like, trust me, when he and I had to chase.

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Speaker 5: You down, and just for the record, I chased you guys.

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Speaker 2: Listen, No you did not. It was it was not.

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Speaker 2: You did not need to convince us. It was the easiest. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I facetimed this one the second you parted.

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Speaker 1: We just never think someone as cool and talented and

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Speaker 1: busy as you is going to come spend time with us,

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Speaker 1: and so we are so happy that you did because

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Speaker 1: we have to tell you Morning Show is like it's

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Speaker 1: one of those things where it's one of the only

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Speaker 1: things I get, like super excited to wake up. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's a new one, and now that we have all

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Speaker 1: of them to binge, Sorry y'all, y'all don't but but

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Speaker 1: we'll still be keeping updated and it's just as much

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Speaker 1: fun as it is every year. And if I only.

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Speaker 4: Came on this podcast for one reason, it was to

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Speaker 4: watch you guys Connect Morning Show, the new iPhone, Taylor's

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Speaker 4: Fist album on the color of orange.

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Speaker 1: Well that all happened, aw Mike, But we did get

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Speaker 1: we did get it right, and hey, we got all

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 4: And then you hitting it with the iconic whoever said

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Speaker 4: orange is the new pink seriously disturbs.

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Speaker 1: I mean I saw truly hannus Angora sweater.

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Speaker 5: I talked her how to buy the most truly.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, maybe we have to come back and talk about.

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Speaker 2: This is rather Spoon Morning Show Season four us out now,

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Speaker 2: we love you? Thank can we end every episode with

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Speaker 2: the song That's gonna be should we do?

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Speaker 1: It's out a little after twelve, make breakfast for myself,

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Speaker 1: leave the work for someone else. If you want to

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Speaker 1: hear the rest of that, do yourself a favor and

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Speaker 1: be like a film student and watch the first sequence,

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Speaker 1: and then the whole film of Dougbye. This amazing, amazing last.

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Speaker 2: Cultu Racis is the production by will Ferrell's Big Money

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Speaker 2: Players and then her radio.

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Speaker 1: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yek,

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Speaker 1: Executive produced by Anna Hasby and produced by Becker Ramo

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Speaker 2: Edited and mixed by Doug Babe and our music is

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Speaker 2: by Henrik Murski