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Speaker 2: It is Sunday night, February twenty first, the Year of

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Speaker 2: Our Lord, twenty twenty one, jam packed. We could have

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Speaker 2: gone three hours tonight if we wanted to. Some of

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Speaker 2: you actually positioned that we did do that. We can't

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Speaker 2: do that, and some people around here, including myself.

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Speaker 1: Have bad times, but we could easily go too full shows.

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Speaker 2: Don't ever let anyone tell you it is the off season,

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Speaker 2: because it's not. An off season doesn't exist. Off season

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Speaker 2: is not real. I said it, so I'll find myself.

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Speaker 2: We've got transfer portal news to talk about, not just

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Speaker 2: who's going in who's coming out.

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Speaker 1: It's a big week here at twenty four seven.

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Speaker 2: It's a big week because we have a new product

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Speaker 2: will unveil tomorrow bright and early. Depending on where you are,

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Speaker 2: you may still be asleep when it goes live. Going

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Speaker 2: to be exciting. I think it is huge. It is

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Speaker 2: sort of an inflection point within the college football world itself,

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Speaker 2: whether you're on our side of the fence or the

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Speaker 2: actual coaching world side of the fence. We will discuss

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Speaker 2: that to lead off the show tonight. I will also

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Speaker 2: talk much greater detail about something I've been kind of

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Speaker 2: back and forth with a few of you about off

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Speaker 2: the record as well as on Twitter publicly about the

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Speaker 2: evolution of coaching staffs. You see on the full screen

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Speaker 2: here if you're watching on YouTube, it just says the

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Speaker 2: evolution of coaching staffs. Well, when you think coaching staff,

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Speaker 2: you think running back coach, special teams coordinator, offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily talking about that. I'm talking about a

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Speaker 2: full staff everything from player personnel departments to graphics and design.

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Speaker 1: It's rapidly evolving.

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Speaker 2: That word evolution very important here because I think there

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Speaker 2: may be jobs for some of you who want to

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Speaker 2: get into this world that didn't exist five years ago

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Speaker 2: that certainly do now and will even more exist five

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Speaker 2: years down the road. And what I'm trying to tell

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Speaker 2: you is a lot of you who have always dreamed

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Speaker 2: of being in college football in some shape, form or

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Speaker 2: fashion and never thought you could. You probably can. And

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Speaker 2: if you don't believe me, I'm going to give you

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Speaker 2: four or five examples. I'm gonna give you names whose

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Speaker 2: stories you can go read about yourself that will probably

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Speaker 2: prove otherwise. We've got North Carolina mood Tracker tonight. It

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Speaker 2: is right there with Arkansas as having been the most

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Speaker 2: requested program mood Tracker that we do, and so tonight's

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Speaker 2: the night we are going to do that, and we're

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Speaker 2: also going to talk about Iowa State, and we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about how some people, myself included, love what

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Speaker 2: they're doing in Aims. I will love Matt Campbell, love

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Speaker 2: everything about the program. There are a other people out

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Speaker 2: there who don't. I want go as far as to

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Speaker 2: there who aren't.

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Speaker 1: Crazy about Iowa State. Has nothing to do with Iowa

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Speaker 1: State football.

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Speaker 2: It has a lot more to do with principle, the

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Speaker 2: overarching nature, and.

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Speaker 1: I'll sum that.

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Speaker 2: Up for you, probably in a way that may hit

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Speaker 2: a lot closer to home for even those of you

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Speaker 1: So we are about to dive in.

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Speaker 2: Want to remind you we are, like I think, a

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Speaker 2: couple of dozen people away from thirteen thousand on Twitter

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Speaker 2: at late kick Josh, head over there and follow me,

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Speaker 2: because when we top every thousand on the dot, we

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Speaker 2: are going to do a very very interactive feature. We're

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Speaker 2: looking forward to it. We already got it ready, you know,

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Speaker 2: I said hit the benchmark those so we got to

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Speaker 2: wait until the benchmarks hit, which may be done by tonight,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to be somewhere between five ten, fifteen

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Speaker 2: to record it as live and then we are going

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Speaker 2: to post. It's gonna be a video product. It's going

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Speaker 1: We call it the jazz based model.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive intnight because we've got a we got a

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Speaker 1: very very wide ranging show this evening.

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Speaker 2: So just take a breath, sit back, relax wherever you are,

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Speaker 2: and let's talk some college football.

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Speaker 1: The transfer portal has been very active.

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Speaker 2: I think that much as obvious, there's been an amazing

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Speaker 1: And we felt it coming.

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Speaker 2: So as a company, let's say twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 2: and now a lot more people. We've listened to you,

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Speaker 2: trust me here at twenty four seven, at least we've

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Speaker 2: listened to you when you say, hey, I as a consumer,

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Speaker 2: I as a fan, I care even more about the

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Speaker 1: Well that brings us to tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So tomorrow morning we will unveil the twenty four seven

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Speaker 2: Sports Transfer Portal player rankings. This has been a multi

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Speaker 2: you've got a lot of people involved, a lot of

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Speaker 1: This is really good though, because here's what happens.

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Speaker 2: What happens now is we sort of do the same

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Speaker 1: Got to do the same thing here.

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Speaker 2: And so tomorrow morning you'll see it on twenty four

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Speaker 1: You'll see those transfer portal rankings. It's really important.

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Speaker 1: This is an updated player rating. So here's what you'll

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Speaker 2: I think some of you are already, you know, licking

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Speaker 1: If you look at it.

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Speaker 2: That way, this will allow you to do just that.

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Speaker 2: So a tidbit. I can't give it away. We will

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Speaker 2: I cannot stress enough how important this is. And consider

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Speaker 2: about moving forward. So Chris Hummer put out a really,

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Speaker 1: To take January off.

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Speaker 2: I need to go focus on my I just remembered

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Speaker 2: Chris Hummer did just that, and so that's on twenty

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Speaker 2: His dad essentially told Hank South, well, we want him

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Speaker 2: to go to Alabama. Nick Saban is advising us on

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Speaker 2: great place to be if you're Nick Saban. So Nick

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Speaker 2: Saban is advising us on what to do. He told us, wait,

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Speaker 2: let's see how the transfer rule works out, and if

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Speaker 2: it doesn't work out, you probably need to go back home.

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Speaker 1: But if it does work out, you need to come here.

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Speaker 2: So essentially, what we have right now is we have

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Speaker 1: So that's the state of affairs there right now.

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Speaker 2: But that's just one thing that's going on that it's

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Speaker 2: going to impact this upcoming season. That is a bona

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Speaker 2: he could be there this next year. Circle back to Florida, though,

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Speaker 2: So the guys like Eric Gilbert, He's going to be

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Speaker 2: Now they have completely rezoned January. In February, it used

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Speaker 1: Do you know what he does now?

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Speaker 2: Barton Simmons is the general manager of Vanderbilt Football.

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Speaker 2: general manager position. Well, if you know recruiting, and you

440
00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,879
Speaker 2: know the evaluation game, and you got an extensive network

441
00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,920
Speaker 2: of contacts, and you know the high school seeing you

442
00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,840
Speaker 2: speak the recruiting in college football language, Barton, I mean,

443
00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,280
Speaker 2: allegedly he played at Yale. I've yet to be sent

444
00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,080
Speaker 2: video of it, but he played at Yale. That is

445
00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,200
Speaker 2: an alternative route. But yet a route that I guarantee

446
00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,280
Speaker 2: you haven't seen taken for the last time, because the

447
00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,439
Speaker 2: way this normally happens is one school will do it,

448
00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,159
Speaker 2: and no other program wants to be first. Like no

449
00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,760
Speaker 2: other program wants to be the first to hire a

450
00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,480
Speaker 2: guy from the world of you know, twenty four to

451
00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,359
Speaker 2: seven sports recruiting to work in their athletic department. But

452
00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,800
Speaker 2: then once one of them does it, you know what

453
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 2: else they don't want to do. They don't want to

454
00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,600
Speaker 2: be the third program to do it, don't want to

455
00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,640
Speaker 2: be first, don't want to be third. So now you'll

456
00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,119
Speaker 2: see a rush, and now you'll see a lot of

457
00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,840
Speaker 2: folks from our world get more looks. So you got

458
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,800
Speaker 2: you've got graphics and design. You got Brian Carricton sending

459
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,879
Speaker 2: letters to Tom Herman. He's working at Olive Guard. He

460
00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,280
Speaker 2: just wants to get in somehow. You got Barton working

461
00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,000
Speaker 2: in this world, and all of a sudden, the dude

462
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,080
Speaker 2: he's got a new address about ten minutes up the

463
00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,359
Speaker 2: road works at Vanderbilt.

464
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Speaker 1: Now I'm not even done yet.

465
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Speaker 2: There's another name. You've never heard this one, Ian McFarlane. Thursday.

466
00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,600
Speaker 2: I believe it was Georgia Tech named this guy brand

467
00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,959
Speaker 2: manager that was around five years ago. In a lot

468
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,600
Speaker 2: of ways, it's still not a role that's around in

469
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,159
Speaker 2: most Power five programs. Let me give you his resume.

470
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 2: Worked in graphics and design at Louisville. He ran social

471
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,679
Speaker 2: media at Notre Dame. He was a student graphics and

472
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,880
Speaker 2: designed sort of intern at North Texas in twenty seventeen,

473
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,399
Speaker 2: eighteen and nineteen, and he graduated college in twenty nineteen. Dudes,

474
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 2: two years out of college, he is now the brand

475
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,840
Speaker 2: manager for Georgia Tech. What is that, by the way, Well,

476
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 2: it's a guy who essentially is in charge with presenting

477
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech to the world. And Jeff Collins understands the

478
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,000
Speaker 2: second he walked in. The reason he got my attention

479
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 2: so quickly, and the reason he's gotten a lot of

480
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,640
Speaker 2: people's attention down there, it's because he walked in and said,

481
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 2: hold up, we're not located in Lownes County.

482
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Speaker 1: We're not located in Bainbridge. This is Atlanta.

483
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 2: There is no knock on Lownes or Bainbridge, by the way,

484
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,680
Speaker 2: but this is Atlanta. Why aren't people associating Georgia Tech

485
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,880
Speaker 2: with Atlanta more? That's why you see four oh four

486
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,959
Speaker 2: plastered every single place they go, everything they do, they

487
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 2: got a four oh four all over the place, yellowjacket emoji.

488
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's the area code for Atlanta. If you're old

489
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 2: enough there to have the right area code, that's the

490
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 2: real area code. And so now Atlanta's anonymous in Georgia

491
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 2: Tech Atlanta. Georgia Tech Atlanta. This is going to be

492
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 2: a mainstak within three years. If you don't have that

493
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 2: role in your athletic department, your football program, you're a

494
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,880
Speaker 2: dinosaur ian. McFarland graduated college twenty nineteen. He is now

495
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,959
Speaker 2: the brand manager for Georgia Tech. Here's one that's really interesting.

496
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Speaker 2: This is one Bruce Feldman from The Athletic reported on yesterday.

497
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Speaker 2: I want to say it was yesterday, just saturday. Keith Sanchez.

498
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Speaker 1: It's another name you may not recognize.

499
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 2: Some people who are really close to LSU probably recognize him.

500
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 2: He was a personnel analyst. That's what he was doing,

501
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 2: one of several All the big programs have a small

502
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,400
Speaker 2: army of those types of analysts.

503
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Speaker 1: So Bruce Feldman.

504
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 2: Reports yesterday he's leaving LSU, not on bad terms, he's

505
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 2: leaving to enter law school. This was part of the quote.

506
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 2: This was Keith Sanchez talking to Bruce Feldman. He said,

507
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 2: it's the best right now that I go to law

508
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,199
Speaker 2: school so I can be in position and credentialed to

509
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: handle what's coming next.

510
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: He's talking about nil And I was on the.

511
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 2: Phone myself well over an hour actually with a lawyer

512
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 2: that is specifically isolated in that world last week, last week,

513
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 2: two weeks ago. This is the right move. You guys

514
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 2: want to be involved with that. In fact, let me

515
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 2: tell you, if you already have a law degree, you

516
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: are ten steps ahead. If you have a law degree,

517
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 2: or you have a degree in economics and you love

518
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 2: college football, Sky's the limit for what you could do

519
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: in this industry right now. But also marketing, Sky's the

520
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: limit for what you could do in this industry right now.

521
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 2: Everybody needs everybody needs it. You think that there's a

522
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: line out the door, there's not. These are major programs,

523
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: and yet there is a shortage of elite, professional qualified

524
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 2: folks who want to go into that world. Because right now,

525
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: people with law degrees and economics degrees and marketing degrees,

526
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: they don't think I want to go work for the

527
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 2: University of South Carolina.

528
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: They don't think that route's possible.

529
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: They think only football people can go work for foot

530
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: ball programs. If you're a marketer, if you're an economist,

531
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 2: if you're a lawyer, you are a football person in

532
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 2: today and tomorrow's game. So pay attention to these stories

533
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 2: because these are the stories of the people that you'll

534
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: be watching documentaries on five years from now. You know,

535
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: folks who overcame odds, folks who blazed their own trail.

536
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,479
Speaker 2: It happens in our world all the time. It's happening

537
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: in the actual football world too. So if you've given

538
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,959
Speaker 2: up hope, itch on my nose. If you're given up hope,

539
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: don't give up hope.

540
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: Let's go to the mood Tracker route.

541
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: We have been probably about two dozen programs into the

542
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: mood Tracker.

543
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: Now. This is far and away. It's been like a

544
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 1: Grand Slam times too.

545
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 2: It's far and away been our most popular segment that

546
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 2: we've done so far. Here North Carolina's Mood Tracker is

547
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 2: what we're doing tonight and along with Arkansas, like I

548
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 2: told you to lead the show, this has been our

549
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: most requested program to do a mood Tracker on. And

550
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 2: the mood Tracker I remind you about every fourth or

551
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 2: fifth program.

552
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: The mood tracker is just us, you know.

553
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 2: Saying open wide and we stick the thermometer in the

554
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 2: mouth and we watch our we watch our stopwatch here.

555
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: Okayep beep beep. We take it out and we just

556
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: look at what the mood is around the program. Now.

557
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: I went over to Inside Carolina dot com today and

558
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 2: there is a very very active thread over there, even

559
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: to this very moment as we're on air, because I'm

560
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: looking at it on my screen right now, and I

561
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 2: just go as I sometimes do, and I say, Hey,

562
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: what in one word or phrase is your current mood.

563
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 2: I'm asking folks on the message board there, what is

564
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: your mood towards North Carolina football. So some of the

565
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: best responses are the most popular responses. A lot of

566
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 2: people are thrilled, ecstatic, hungry, finally just one word finally

567
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: and then our turn our time overly confident. So how

568
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: did I sum that up? Here's how I summed it up.

569
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 2: It's just run as fast as you can.

570
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: Just run.

571
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: I think one of the most important life lessons that

572
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,239
Speaker 2: you and I learned from the movie Jurassic Park, Well,

573
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: the most important lesson was life finds a way. But

574
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 2: the second most important life lesson from Jurassic Park is

575
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: you got to know when to run.

576
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Speaker 1: You remember Robert, who.

577
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: Was the guy that just walked around looking like a

578
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 2: safari guide the whole the whole movie. And then you

579
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: had Ellie who was the paleobotanist. And so if you'll

580
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: remember in Jurassic Park, you got Robert and then you

581
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: got Ellie, and they got to walk straight through that

582
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: forest through well, they got to walk through a forest

583
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: full of veloci raptors, that's what they have to do.

584
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: And so one of them chooses to tiptoe his way

585
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: because he got a gun and he's hunted these things

586
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: his whole life, he's raised them, and then the other

587
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: one just decides to run. Which one survived? Ellie survived

588
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 2: and she ended up with Samuel L. Jackson's arm severed

589
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 2: on her shoulder, but she did survive. Now Robert, he

590
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 2: gets devoured because he tiptoed. He was very he's very hesitant.

591
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't want to make any noise. Well

592
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: that's not what North Carolina's attitude is right now. Their

593
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: mood is We're just gonna run. You know, you got

594
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 2: a raptor out here. You got Clemson.

595
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: But see we've already faced them. See you know they

596
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: would be like if Robert and when he went.

597
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: Up against the Raptor, if he got a couple of

598
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: shots on the jaw of the raptor before the raptor

599
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 2: bid him. That's kind of what Carolina was able to

600
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: do to Clemson. They played him a couple of years ago.

601
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: See Miami, Miami got knocked out when they played Clemson

602
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: this past year. Carolina got him two years ago and

603
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 2: nearly beat them. I was in Auburn's press box. I

604
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: was watching the game and they're down there trying to

605
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: go for two and win the game.

606
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: It was twenty one to twenty. That was the final.

607
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: But I say all that to remind you when Mac

608
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: Brown walked in the door here, when he showed up,

609
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: he didn't feel anything out.

610
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the way of the world in

611
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: the ACC right now.

612
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: Everyone sort of just sort of look around the room

613
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: and say, are you gonna do anything? Okay, It's like

614
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: everyone waiting for a line to form at the buffet. Well,

615
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 2: Mack Brown walked in and he looked around and said,

616
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: no one's gonna go I'll.

617
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: Go, Clemson has already gone through here five times. I'll go.

618
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: They didn't feel anything out. There was an immediate recruiting impact.

619
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: They immediately took Clems into the wire. As I said,

620
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: not in his fourth or fifth year, but in his

621
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: first year. They didn't wait in line, and they didn't

622
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: let the ACC define them. You know when, I think

623
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: sometimes subconsciously, if you're in a division like the SEC West,

624
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: you understand that you're constantly fighting to keep your nose

625
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 2: above water, cause every or just about everyone can beat

626
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: you any given week. Like even Arkansas, who you presume

627
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: is going to be at the bottom of the vision

628
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: no man, even even Mississippi State, who you presume is

629
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 2: going to be at the bottom of the division, Well

630
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: play them opening weekend in Baton Rouge. See how close

631
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: to the bottom of the division they are. Doesn't feel

632
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: that way in the ACC, whether it is or not,

633
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel that way. And so sometimes folks have

634
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 2: a tendency to sort of ease into the ACC, sort

635
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: of ease into that role. That's not what Mack Brown did.

636
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: And here's the other couple of bullet points that you

637
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 2: really need to know about Carolina. If you haven't been

638
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: paying attention. This is what has people so excited. It

639
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: doesn't feel very paper tiger ish. It doesn't feel like

640
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: it's cotton candy, but no steak because of two things.

641
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: Number One, they've got quarterback figured out. Now.

642
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: They got Sam Howell, but they got quarterback figured out

643
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 2: in the future, unless you know, injury or something happens.

644
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 2: They got Drake May who was committed to Alabama and

645
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: they convinced to decommit and come there. And speaking of

646
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: decommitments and recruiting, look at what they did this past cycle,

647
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: look at what they have been doing and what they're

648
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: in the process of doing.

649
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean they they're in a very talent rich area.

650
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: The Carolina is sort of a perennially underappreciated area because

651
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like one program is just totally dominated

652
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: over there. Clemson's done good, Georgea's done good. Bama's gone

653
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: in there occasionally, but Carolina said not this year.

654
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: You want to have some fun.

655
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: I don't have it off the top of my head,

656
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: but go look at their signing class this past cycle,

657
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one cycle, and it'll be easy for

658
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: you to count how many kids didn't come from the

659
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: state of North Carolina. I think they got one from

660
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: South Carolina. They got like one hundred of them from

661
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: North Carolina. But it's it's also a sneaky good place

662
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: that's becoming a destination for coaches to go. That's important.

663
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: You know, everyone's looked at what Dabbo has at Clemson

664
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: and they said, good for him. Man, he's got this

665
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: magic formula up there, secret elixir that no one wants

666
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: to leave.

667
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: Now.

668
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: That's obviously doing large part of the culture they've instilled there.

669
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: It's a nice place to live. That entire area is

670
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: a nice place to live. Chapel Hill, North Carolina and

671
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: the surrounding area is an incredible place to live. Listen,

672
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: if you've got you've got some true serum, and a

673
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: bunch of coaches in the college football world, a bunch

674
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: of them would tell you, Hey, if all things were equal,

675
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 2: if that place offered me an opportunity to compete at

676
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 2: the highest levels, I would have gone there a long

677
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 2: time ago. It's just Carolina hasn't been there for a while.

678
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 2: North Carolina hasn't really been a player. They're a player now,

679
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: and so I'm not talking about any guys that are

680
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 2: about to leave. But when they have a slot to

681
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: fill on that coaching staff, it's not going to stay

682
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: open for very long. And Matt Brown is going to

683
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: have his choice of a lot of really really qualified

684
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: candidates coast to coast. So as it pertains to this year,

685
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: I think all lives are turning to just the defensive

686
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: side of the ball in general. Jay Bateman is the

687
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: coordinator there right now, here's the luxury he has.

688
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: He knows they're going to score. And so when you

689
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: watch them this year.

690
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: There were some big moments where they could they couldn't

691
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: get stops, but also they weren't really forcing you to

692
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: work all that hard. They don't need to be top

693
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: ten in the country and like yards per play or

694
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 2: anything like that.

695
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: It'd be nice.

696
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: But what Jay Bateman has to do and they got

697
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: a lot of guys coming back this year. Sometimes that's good,

698
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: sometimes it's overrated. What they have to do is they

699
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: got to find a way to turn the ball over

700
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: and they have to be situationally great. They don't have

701
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: to be statistically great. They need to be situationally great.

702
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: That's what you know.

703
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: Programs in the past that have gone on to do

704
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: big things, but didn't necessarily have elite defenses.

705
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: If you look at the situationals, those data points.

706
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: You're going to find as you dive in a little

707
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: bit deeper than just you know, total yards per game,

708
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: total points per game, you're going to find an area

709
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: or two they shined in. Normally it's turnovers and red

710
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: zone efficiency for some and threes instead of Seven's.

711
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: That kind of deal. That's what they got to figure

712
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: out a way to do. So North Carolina.

713
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: I did not have a single person even offer up

714
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 2: so much as a breath of trepidation when we were

715
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: talking about them today, So there is unbridled optimism and excitement.

716
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: It's just time to run for North Carolina. Last thing

717
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: I wanted to get to tonight. So I'm talking over

718
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: the weekend, talking to someone in the coaching world, and

719
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: they mentioned something to me that I haven't really considered yet.

720
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: What do you think about Iowa State football? You know,

721
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: my love for Iowa State is well pronounced, but let

722
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: me ask you this.

723
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: So it's this popular question everyone asks about everything these days,

724
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: So I'm going to mockingly ask it about Iowa State.

725
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: Are the cyclones good or bad for college football is

726
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: Matt Campbell's he good or bad? Is it best for

727
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: the health of the sport for Iowa State to exist. Well,

728
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: I'm talking to someone over this past week and he

729
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: said something, you know, I really hadn't thought about from

730
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: this angle. He said, Yeah, everyone pretends they love Iowa State.

731
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: But the deeper you get into the administrative world and

732
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: the deeper you get into the coaching world, what if

733
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: I told you some folks secretly have disdain in their

734
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: heart for Iowa State. I knew where he was going

735
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: as soon as he brought it up, but just to

736
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: humor me, I said, go ahead continue. He said exactly

737
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: what I thought he was. So let me first establish this.

738
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: There are many reasons to love Iowa State.

739
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: I love them. I love them.

740
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: It is well pronounced. I don't try and hide it.

741
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: I love the energy, I love the passion. I love

742
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: the game day atmosphere, the community there. It feels a

743
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: lot like a really, really really big high school in

744
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: some cases, which is how college football, by the is

745
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: supposed to feel.

746
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: It's just like a high.

747
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: School football atmosphere and a collectiveness community kind of on.

748
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: I don't want to use that analogy because that's poor

749
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: and it'll be sound bited on me. You know, it's

750
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: just really really it's really an emphasized high school field.

751
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: But there are several reasons why you should like what

752
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: Iowa State is because everything that most people I talk

753
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: to say they want college football to be. Hey, that's

754
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: what Iowa State is. You've got the energy, you got

755
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: the fan investment, you got the passion. It's kind of isolated,

756
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: like Ames Iowa. We're not talking about Minneapolis or Detroit.

757
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: It's a very small town field. But yet you've got

758
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: everything that you want there. And this is a program.

759
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: They don't have infinite resources, as I'm about to talk

760
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: about in a second.

761
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: They just get the job done. So it feels great.

762
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: By the way, look at this.

763
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: How in the world can you not love the merchandising

764
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: opportunities that you have at Iowa State. I would wear

765
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: this to church next Sunday morning. If you give me

766
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: khakis and a nice pair of dress shoes, I'd wear

767
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: that to church. It's no coincidence that when Hulk Hogan

768
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: took over the eighties, he did it wearing red and yellow.

769
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: And I would put that on every poster in Ames Iowa.

770
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: If I ran the marketing department up there.

771
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: But you ask yourself, Okay, that's all well and good.

772
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: You said that there are reasons not to like them, though, No,

773
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: I'm not giving you any reasons. I'm telling you there

774
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: are reasons why some people don't like them. And I'm

775
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: not talking about Iowahawkeye fans and talking. I'm not talking

776
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: about programs in the Big twelve. You've got your own reasons.

777
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: You have to compete against them. Here's the reason some

778
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: people don't like Iowa State. Iowa State shatters what we

779
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: on Lake Kick refer to as the window mirror theory,

780
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: and the window mirror theory has been simply this. There

781
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: are many programs much much more resourced, let's say, than

782
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: Iowa State, who will look you in the eye and

783
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: look their fan bases in the eye, and they'll tell

784
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: you it's not our fault.

785
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: We're not winning.

786
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: This system, This college football system, this complex, it's built

787
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: to keep us down. It's built to benefit only the

788
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: big few, and it's meant to keep us down. And

789
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: Iowa State ruins that for a lot of people. And

790
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: the reason, as they give you know, the reasons you're

791
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: if you're a Texas fan or not a Texas fan.

792
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: You know they're really the outsider. Think about Tier three

793
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: type teams, lower tier two, Tier three type teams.

794
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: They'll tell you we don't have.

795
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: The money, our facilities aren't as good as the top teams,

796
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: or our staff is not as big. We can't go

797
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 2: get recruits. Think about all those reasons. Don't have the money,

798
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: don't have the facilities, not as big as staff, we

799
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: can't go get the recruits. I want you to think

800
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: about all that as I tell you. Iowa State had

801
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: fifty one million in total athletic department revenue in twenty nineteen,

802
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: fifty one million. As a comparison, Texas had two hundred

803
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: and twenty three million no revenue. Huh, facilities Our Brad

804
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: Crawford does a top twenty five college football facility rankings

805
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: every year.

806
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: Iowa State is yet to crack the top twenty five.

807
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: There don't have the facilities staff, Iowa State staff, their size,

808
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: their analyst department fractional to the lights of a Clemson

809
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: or an Alabama or a Georgia or a Texas.

810
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: You want recruiting classes, you need the recruits to win.

811
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: Okay, the past four recruiting classes at Iowa State fifty ninth,

812
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: forty sixth, forty sixth, fifty fifth this past cycle, and

813
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: yet their records the past four years have been eight

814
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: and five, eight and five, seven and six, nine to three.

815
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 2: This past year played for the Big Twelve Championship minus

816
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 2: three turnovers, I would argue could have won the game,

817
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: and then they went on to win the Fiesta Bowl.

818
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: Here is why a lot of people don't like Iowa State.

819
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: They look at the results there and then all of

820
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 2: a sudden, what they're telling you is the problem out

821
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: the window. They're pointing out their their fan base all

822
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: the sudden looks and they see this program in ames

823
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: Iowa doing a lot more than their team is doing

824
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: with fractions of the resources their team has, and all

825
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 2: of a sudden, they take the window and they say,

826
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 2: stop looking out the window, go look in the mirror,

827
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: because this team up in Iowa has basically shattered the window.

828
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: They're slowly making us realize the problem with our athletic department,

829
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: the problem with our football program. It's not college football,

830
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: it's not the complex that's built against us. We've just

831
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: made made really bad hires, and then we've added more

832
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: bad hires. And we've got people making decisions around here

833
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: that don't need to be making decisions. But that's murky

834
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: that you got to really roll up your sleeves and

835
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: dive in.

836
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: It's a lot easier to just.

837
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: Say, well, you know, college football these days, we're never

838
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: going to be able to compete. Yeah, well, they're going

839
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: to be in ames Iowa one of the favorites to

840
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: make the playoffs this year. They're gonna be one of

841
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: the favorites to compete for and maybe win a Big

842
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 2: twelve championship.

843
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: And so there's this old adage. Jim Ross used to.

844
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 2: Say it all the time in WWF. You cannot sell

845
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: goods from an empty cart. And a lot of folks

846
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: have really fancy looking carts. And they got sparkles all

847
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: over it. And boy, that cover on the back probably alone,

848
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: no telling how much that's worth. Look at these wheels,

849
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: and then we got backup wheels. For those wheels, it's

850
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: a smooth ride. Look at the yoke. Anything could pull this.

851
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: We could put a dodge ram in front of it.

852
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: You don't have anything in the cart, you don't have

853
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 2: anything to sell. You cannot sell goods from an empty cart.

854
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 2: Iowa State conversely, they just trot along. It's not the

855
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: most expensive cart in the world. You probably wouldn't look

856
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: at it and envy it. But what's inside? You know,

857
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: when Matt Campbell talks about that culture over five star, well,

858
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: it's nice to have five star talent, it's nice to

859
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: have the facilities, it's nice to have the army of analysts.

860
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: But a lot of folks probably look at Alabama and

861
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: think Alabama wins cause that no, they don't.

862
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: If they did, Texas.

863
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: Would be in the national playoff conversation every single year.

864
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: The reason Alabama wins is the same reason Iowa State wins.

865
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: It's the nucleus.

866
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 2: It's what is your culture, what is your defined process?

867
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: And I've told you before and I'll tell you again,

868
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: a lot of folks overthink the room. And when they

869
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: hear Matt Campbell talk about this process over results, mentality

870
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: and the grind and day by day, folks don't think

871
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: that can be the secret formula. There's no way that

872
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 2: can be the secret formula, cause any idiot can figure

873
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: that out. You're right, any idiot could figure that out.

874
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: The secret for success is so basic in life and

875
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: in football, it's so simple, but it's not shortcutash. There's

876
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: no easy way to imple that culture. You got to

877
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: do it the hard way, and it's really hard. That's

878
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: why when you get on top, it's even harder up

879
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: there because then a lot of folks have to turn

880
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: over their blueprint because they relied on doubt and disrespect

881
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: and people picking against them and us against.

882
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: The world to get there.

883
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: Well uh oh, well, now everyone believes in us, how

884
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: do we stay on top. Well, that's not the way

885
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: that the best programs are wired. You can't do it

886
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: and sustain. And so when Matt Campbell, I can guarantee

887
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: you this now just as much as I'm talking about

888
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 2: the limited resources, but the maximizing of results at Iowa State,

889
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: just as much as he's done that at Iowa State,

890
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: if he ever takes a bigger job, one of the

891
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: first things he's going to have to do when he

892
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: walks in is he's going to have to say, I

893
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: don't care that you just raised my salary by one

894
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen percent. I don't care that you're giving

895
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: me the budget for this army of off field analyst.

896
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: I love the facility upgrades that you've promised me. I

897
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: love this logo on my polo here and the tradition

898
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: and history it represents, but I cannot come in here

899
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: and in exchange for all that install a micro wave mentality.

900
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: I've got to install all the oven It's the only

901
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: way I know how to do it. There is no

902
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: amount of money that allows you to buypress what the

903
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: process is and the formula for success.

904
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: You can't do it.

905
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: He gets that at Iowa State, and he gets left

906
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: alone at Iowa State. And that's probably one of the

907
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: hidden benefits of a program like that is, you know,

908
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: when you're at the University of Tennessee, for example, it's

909
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: really hard when those folks are invested to the financial

910
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: degree they are to look him in the eye and say,

911
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: gonna need three years. Guys, give me three years. No,

912
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: we're not giving you three years. Malzon was in the

913
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: national title game in his first year. Why the words

914
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: are gonna take you three years? Don't let the outliers

915
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: become the standard would be my first piece of advice.

916
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Speaker 2: But secondly, Iowa State is a model that should be

917
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: followed a lot closer. And it's not about winning the

918
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: press conference, and it's not about necessarily having the best icing.

919
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: It's about having the cake to put the icing on.

920
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: They got the cake to put the icing on. A

921
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: lot of these programs they invest in the icing and

922
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: then wonder why they're seven and six seven to six,

923
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: you don't have any cake, much of sauce, you don't

924
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: have steak. So is that probably exhausts the amount of

925
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: food metaphors that I can use for the rest of February,

926
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: because I give myself a quota and we're at it

927
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Speaker 2: right now, and fortunately.

928
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Speaker 1: We're at the end of the show too.

929
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Speaker 2: So just some thoughts I had there about Iowa State

930
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: and you give me a give me a reason to

931
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: pull the T shirt out to.

932
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Speaker 1: So remember tomorrow morning.

933
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Speaker 2: The transfer portal rankings will be unveiled on twenty four

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Speaker 2: seven Sports dot Com. Also want to remind you follow

935
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Speaker 2: me on Twitter at late Kick Josh will probably top

936
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Speaker 2: thirteen k either tonight or tomorrow. When we do that,

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Speaker 2: you will have details. I will put them out probably

938
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Speaker 2: on the Twitter account. I'll also talk about them on

939
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 2: the podcast Tuesday morning, and so a lot of things

940
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: to look forward to.

941
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Speaker 1: But never say season. Don't ever say it. It doesn't

942
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Speaker 1: exist around here.

943
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Speaker 2: For Director Emeritus Colin and our entire crew in Connecticut

944
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Speaker 2: working tirelessly tonight.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate. Thank you so much for watching The

946
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Speaker 1: Late Kick hab A great start to your week.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you back your Thursday, and God bless