1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to move to six guys. I am Bucky Brooks 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: at my coach. Daniel Jeremiah would join me later as 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: we have a great conversation with Drew Fabianch. He is 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: the Benini Senior bal executive director. We're going to talk 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: to him about one of the premier college football All 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: Star games and the new stuff that he's doing since 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: taken over. How they gonna get down and so, without 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: further ado, let's listen to the conversation DJ and I 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: had with Drew. 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: Well, I'm still gonna call him coach Buck. You know, 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: when somebody coaches you, you don't you don't ever stop 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: calling him coach. So I don't care if I'm seventy 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: years old, He's still going to be coach. Fabians to me, coach, 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: how the heck are you doing? 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 4: Im good? 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: It always freaks me out because I haven't coached in 18 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: twenty five years now, so he gets strange and people 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: still do call me coach, and they still have players 20 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: to call me coach. 21 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 4: Still. I was like, come on, I am't coaching that 22 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: we don't call me coaching. 23 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: It Yeah, for those for those a little bit behind 24 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: the scenes. So when you're when you're having guests on 25 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: a lot of times people within an organization and where 26 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 3: coach is working as the senior executive director of the 27 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: Peninny super Bowl, They're going to send over, Hey, like, 28 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: what kind of questions are you going to ask? Or 29 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: you know, what are the topics that you might hit? 30 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: And that's just the way it always goes when you 31 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: have a guest on. And I said that the number 32 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: one topic I wanted to hit was who's his favorite 33 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: quarterback that he's ever college level? And but I don't 34 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: want to ask the question because I. 35 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: Don't want to answer college level. 36 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: Yeah no, I shoot, I mean I could go back 37 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 3: to high school. I don't think I would have cracked 38 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: the top ten even on high school or any level 39 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: that you've ever coached at. So I'm going to take 40 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: a pass on that question. But Coach, give everybody an idea. 41 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: You've signed on to this new role. But for those 42 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: that aren't familiar with your path, just kind of give 43 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: them the cliff notes version of your football journey. 44 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Well, I'll kind of make it real, convinsed. I coached 45 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: for seventeen years, coached every position but offensive line, tight ends, 46 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: and running backs, ordinated both sides of the football. I 47 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: was the youngest defensive corterner in Division one history. When 48 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: I got the job back like in ninety with an 49 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: eight or ninety or whatever it was, I was twenty 50 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: nine years old, you know. Then moved on to personnel 51 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys for eighteen years fourteen to that, where 52 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: I served as you know, the national scout for them. 53 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: Then I went to Auburn as the general manager for football, 54 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: and then I went to West Virginia as the West 55 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: Virginia I mean there's the general man football there too. 56 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: So a lot of years that's a full slate Buck, that. 57 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: Is a that is a full slate coach one before 58 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: we even get into the Senior Bowl stuff. I got 59 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: to ask you this because I'm so curious how tough 60 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: was it for you to make the transition from coaching 61 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: to being a scout and evaluated because I just remember 62 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: so many people talked about a coaches or coaches and 63 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: scouts are scout, But it's hard to kind of live 64 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: in both worlds. 65 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't I don't disagree with you, Bucky, and I 66 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: swear probably my first three years, I had to stop 67 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: coaching the tape, you know, and you know he should 68 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: be doing this, and you know, and he should be 69 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: doing that, you know, and you know, I'm not coaching 70 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: him anymore. So then I had to really stop, you know, 71 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: taking those I took the coaching lens off, and I 72 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: started looking at the trades, looking at you know, how 73 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: he performed the production and everything else. And it took 74 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: me a good two three years to stop myself from 75 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: doing that. But now, the one thing that did help 76 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: me is I knew the reasons why they were doing 77 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: what they were doing. A lot of times, there's a 78 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: lot of scouts out there that don't even truly have 79 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: the acuum of knowing the difference between coverages. You know, 80 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: they don't know why certain protections are wrong. So it 81 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: helped me by saying, well, you know, hey, he's going 82 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: to get a deep comeback running in bucket corner when 83 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: they're playing quarters. It's just going to happen, especially when 84 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: number two is running a vertical, you know. I mean 85 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: I knew that some guys didn't, So that transition was hard, 86 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: but smooth and in certain ways, if that makes sense. 87 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: I want to kind of go chronologically here and we'll 88 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: get to I want to really dig into some of 89 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: the GM work in how college football has changed in 90 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: your experience there. But with the Dallas Cowboys, Look, there's 91 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: a lot of intrigue. I'm not going to ask you about 92 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: Michael Parsons, but there's a lot of intrigue which is 93 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: kind of how the organization is run or how it 94 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: functions the personnel department. I think, you know, you look 95 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: through your time there and shoot, this organization's drafted really, 96 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: really well. You know, for a lot of the lot 97 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: of the bullets that come their way. If you just 98 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: look at how they've done in the draft process, they've 99 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: drafted just about as well as anybody. So it just 100 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: for those listening and watching coach a peak behind the curtain, 101 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: how does how does that machine operate there in Dallas. 102 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: Well, and I'll bounce back with you. 103 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: You are correct, from the time I was there at 104 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and three to twenty two, we had what 105 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: we had sixty seven prom Bowl appearances on players that 106 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: we have drafted, you know, and that was second to 107 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: one team in the league. You know, the it doesn't 108 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: work any different than anywhere else. You know, the day 109 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: to day you know, management, you know goes you know 110 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: to Roll McLay and then below that, you know, you 111 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: have your pro director and your college director, just like 112 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: every other team, and then it filters down to the 113 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: national scouts on you know, each side of the country 114 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: or split in the North and South have a split number. However, 115 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: the same number of area scouts probably is a lot 116 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: of teams. 117 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 4: You know. 118 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: The difference is that when you know, real decisions have 119 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: to be made, Jerry makes them and he is in 120 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: Him and Steven are in on every single personnel meeting 121 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: that we have in April. They watch the players, they 122 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: they talk about the players. They almost you know, evaluate 123 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: with us in a way. 124 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 4: And it's a collaborative you know, with the scouts and 125 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 4: how we graded players. It was never like. 126 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: I could never push a guy up, you know, too far, 127 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: because it was really a collaborative grade and we kind. 128 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: Of stuck with that model almost throughout the entire process. 129 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: You know. 130 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: But like I said, when it comes down to, you know, 131 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: the final call, it's still Jared's and he knows Paul 132 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: and he actually spends time watching the tape with everybody. 133 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: Well, well one's Garry's it's Jerry until Johnny Manziel's there. 134 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: Then then Jerry he acts to the room, right, But 135 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: Johnny Manziel it wasn't Jerry, because then Jerry had to 136 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: acquiesce a little bit to that. 137 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: He did. But but you know what's funny is see 138 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: the room was so far against it that that I 139 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: think he was like, Okay, I'm a businessman too, and 140 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: if I've got this many opinions that say no, then 141 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: i think I've got a kind of bend to that, 142 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: you know, because he did. He did love Johnny, and 143 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: Johnny was a phenomenal college player, but everybody said, you know, 144 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: his game, you know, may not he may not be 145 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: able to function quite like that. And you know, the 146 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: pro system, you know, he's gonna change protections, he's going 147 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: to have to do things that he's never ever done before. 148 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: And you know, and again that offense was suited specifically 149 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: for him, and I don't think the pro system was 150 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: ever going. 151 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: To do that for him. 152 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: So but yeah, that was the only real difference. Yeah, 153 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: but that shows that he's a great listener too. 154 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: Now I got to ask you this just because he's in 155 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: the headlines and even though it's still a Dallas question. 156 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: I just got to talk about pass rushers and Michael Parsons, 157 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: and I would say the rise of the versatile defender 158 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: when it comes to being a passwords because we've seen 159 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: more linebackers that play linebacker on first two downs and 160 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: then go to pass rusher. How difficult is it to 161 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: have a multi dimensional player at the second level who 162 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: can play a traditional linebacker spot and then go and 163 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: be a pass rusher. Because I think he's a bit 164 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: of a unicorn that we don't see very often in 165 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: our league. 166 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't disagree. And you know, the skill set showed 167 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: up at his birthday, and you know, I went up 168 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: there and I was watching the D line drills and 169 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: he jumped in there with Uway and Brett Price right 170 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: behind me, and I kind of slammed my head around 171 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: because I knew real well, I go, I go, wait 172 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: a minute, I said, where did that come from? He said, 173 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: he played defensive end in high school and he looked 174 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: better in the pass rush jills than New waited. And 175 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: for this one, when you're watching the tape coming out 176 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: of college, I mean, he was okay, you know, off 177 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: the ball, he wasn't great in coverage. He was an 178 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: incredible blitzer and that's where it all started. It was like, okay, 179 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: wait a minute, now, you know, we can bring him inside, 180 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: we can get some mismatches inside. But then all of 181 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: a sudden, hey, let's slide him out. We're seeing to 182 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: defeat some tackles with Link and his athleticism and yeah 183 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: he could you know, and again like you guys both know, 184 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: if you lack Link, you better be special. You know, 185 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: as far as being flexible and being athletic and being 186 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: twitchy and being able to change directions because you know, 187 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: those offensive tackles. The link just takes over a lot 188 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: of dudes. That's why he is a unicorn, because they 189 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: didn't get hands on sometimes. You know, when you watch 190 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: him in this rush, which is amazing to. 191 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: Me, it's not fair. He's been and hopefully everything as 192 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: a record in this Hopefully everything gets worked out there. 193 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: The next part of your journey, coach, I want to 194 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: dig into is is you know, I don't know, gosh, 195 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: you couldn't have been too far behind in years of 196 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: when the first GM was named. I think might have 197 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: been Austin Thomas at LSU might have been the first 198 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: one who was named officially got the title of GM 199 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: of a college program. But you've done it in a 200 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: couple of different spots at Auburn and at West Virginia, 201 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: And I mean, even I guess I'll just start here, 202 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: how quickly did it change? Like was it changing? We've 203 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 3: seen college football change so drastically. I mean, just give 204 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: us an example of just getting into that role and 205 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: how you observe the changes that were taking place? 206 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: Well, you know, and again I went in with I 207 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: was lucky enough to be around head coaches that knew me, 208 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: and they were like, Okay, let's structure this however you want. 209 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: And I structured it just like a prosystem. There was 210 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: no doubt me that the do you to be split up? 211 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: And you know, the transfer portal like treated just like 212 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: the pro side in the NFL, and the high school 213 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: side was just like the college side. 214 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 4: You know. 215 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: The thing was is a lot of places were how 216 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: would I put this, they're more concentrating. There's still concentrating 217 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: on the high school piece of it. And you had 218 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: to make a decision with how much money you had 219 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: because they say cap it's not cap, it's a budget, 220 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: And how much you have in a budget to actually 221 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: be able to afford people. Because here's the thing, the 222 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: transfer portal gets really really expensive, especially in May, because 223 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: desperation sets off and a lot of teams go, oh, gosh, 224 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: we don't have any more tackles, or we don't we 225 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: need a guy really really bad. 226 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 4: Well, then they're going over pay for one. 227 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: So I had to structure where I wanted sixty percent 228 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: of the roster to be high school kids because I 229 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: couldn't afford to jump into the portal and overspend for 230 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: lesser talent. So I was hoping to hold those guys 231 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: as long as I could and pay those guys when 232 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: they progressed with their performance to just try to keep 233 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: them around. Now, don't get me wrong, if somebody came 234 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: knocking and you know, it goes from three hundred to 235 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars, I couldn't compete. 236 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 4: So it was like, I'm going to lose them anyway. 237 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 4: You know. 238 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: The only thing I tried to do is just concentrate 239 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: on development piece and trying to help them become NFL players. 240 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: And you know, and it helped you. 241 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: In the way, but it changes like every five minutes 242 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: because you know, it was so uncovered and the NCAA 243 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: wasn't stepping in on anything that was getting done, and 244 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to. And just like the 245 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: Deloitte piece where they say that, you know, anything over 246 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: they get six hundred dollars that you know they have 247 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: to check on market value. Well wait till somebody says 248 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: they say no to that for a sixty thousand dollars 249 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: deal in Chicago or you know, a fifty thousand dollars 250 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: deal in la And the player goes, okay, well, we're 251 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: just consumed because they can't they don't understand market value. 252 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: Somebody's willing to pay me that, why can't I get it? 253 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: So it's so ungoverned. That's the biggest problem. And I 254 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: think that you're going to have to get to a 255 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: point where you're going to have to have a commissioner, 256 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: you're going to have to have to your contracts, you're 257 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: going to have to make them employees, you're going to 258 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: have to have a CBA. 259 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: And it's I think it's going to become a minor 260 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: league for the NFL. I really do. 261 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: And because right now it's a mess, and there's a 262 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: lot of lies out there. There's you know, hey, this 263 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: quarterback's making eight million dollars. 264 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 4: No, he's not. He's not. You know, he's that. 265 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: They're maybe talking about an eight million dollar deal for 266 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: six years, you know, or something like that. But you know, 267 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: the agents are putting out there because you guys know 268 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: you dealt with agents in the league. They're going to 269 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: put out the big numbers so they get bigger clients, 270 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, and they're going to beat their chest. And 271 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: I got the richest quarterback contract of all time, if 272 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: here we go. I mean, so I went round and 273 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: round and round, and I didn't mean to. But that's 274 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: what managing being a gym in college is like. If 275 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: you have to handle everything. And I had to handle everything, 276 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: even even the advanced work. I did the advance work too, 277 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: because you know, I picked the mismatches out, you know, 278 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: for the coaches, because coaches don't watch player player, they 279 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: watched scheme and scheme. Well, I'm like, okay, you know, 280 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: you can pick on this Mike linebacker because he's not 281 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: very good. Put him in space. You can make sure 282 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: that you're attacking this you know, this guy, we call 283 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: him Fish. I found him Fish, so, you know, and 284 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: then overseeing the high school recruiting piece, you know, overseeing 285 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: the transfer portal, handle on the contracts, you know, actually 286 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: negotiating contracts. It's it's hard, it's really hard. So, like 287 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: I said, I bounced around. I apologize, but. 288 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: That's I want everybody to get a feel for it. 289 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: That's my day. Trust me. I used to say, hey, 290 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 4: just wake around a little bit. It's going to change. 291 00:13:59,040 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: Just waiting. 292 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean, somebody's going to be doing something different, and 293 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna be trying to escape the system. Somebody's going 294 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: to be trying to do something different and it's just 295 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: not going to get called out. It's not going to 296 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: get penalized. I mean, you know, heck, I mean, what 297 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: was the last one? It was like, I think West 298 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: Virginia suit the suit to get to get eligible. It 299 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: wasn't that that's not eligible. I mean, so is it 300 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: still student athletes or is it not? And I'm not 301 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: taking a West Virginia. I'm just saying, you know, guess what, 302 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: anytime every time you turn around, well here's okay, pobbying. 303 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: When did junior college become you know, not eligible or 304 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: not from part of the clock, right, because when you 305 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: when you and I play, I mean all of us. 306 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: It's ten semesters, right, Yeah, that was it yet ten semesters. 307 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: You have five or four. 308 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: Now it's different. 309 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: And I think, and I may be totally off, but 310 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: I think that there's going to be another lawsuit about 311 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: almost an anti trust because how can you make a 312 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: student leap, I mean player lead that's making money, that's 313 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: making eleven How can you prevent them from doing that? 314 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: You know, because I'll betch you those you guys are 315 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: going to be playing seven or eight years now, I 316 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: mean college now, because they're. 317 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: Gonna make more money there than they're ever gonna make 318 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: in the NFL. 319 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: You guys know that there's seven draft picks out there 320 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: that will never make that kind of money and they 321 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: may not make a team, but they can stick around 322 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: three more years and make. 323 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 4: Five hundred thousand dollars. 324 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: Jure, I I got to ask you this because if 325 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: you're scouting and you go from looking at NFL players 326 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: and college players, how different is your eye for high 327 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: school talent? 328 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: Now? 329 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: Like, how big of a transition was that to go 330 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: from looking at guys that are in our thirties to 331 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: now we're talking about sixteen seventeen year olds and trying 332 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: to project out how those guys are going to evolve 333 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: and eventually develop to be played. 334 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: Go back farther, Buffy, it's worse than that. You're evaluating 335 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: ninth graders. I mean, and I swear to you, it 336 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: was really really hard for me because I'd see that 337 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: a kid, you know, from the class of twenty eight 338 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: just got offered by UNC and I'm going, like, they 339 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: just offered a guy that's six foot colleens one hundred 340 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: and thirty five pounds. I couldn't do it, you know. 341 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: And I still had to see some maturation. I still 342 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: had to see some you know, almost you know what we. 343 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 4: Call big boy ball. 344 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: I still got to see some big boy ball before 345 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: I actually like, I want to pull the trigger on guys. 346 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 4: And I still wanted to see some size. 347 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to see him in person, you know, because 348 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: you guys know, I mean, you can just check out 349 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: the body frame and sometimes you go, you know, hey, 350 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: he's going to be a real big player. He's gonna 351 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: be a real big boy or a spoof. He may 352 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: not get much bigger. I mean that those hips aren't wide, 353 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: the shoulders aren't wide, and you know, parents aren't very 354 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: big was a chance he's not going to get him bigger, 355 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, so I was still looking for the traits. 356 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: But again I'm also looking at the competition. Is if 357 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: he in Georgia and he's starting as a ninth grader 358 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: against Buford and he's got production, I am a little 359 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: bit more thrilled, you know, to offer a kid like that. 360 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: But if he's not and it's just on you know, 361 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: hype from on three or twenty four to seven or whatever, 362 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: I'm not and I'm not dogging out those services, but 363 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, I still have to see it with my eyes. 364 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: But and it was just so hard for me when 365 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: the measurables which is not there. Yeah, it was just hard. 366 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 3: Now this has been This has been great, coach. I 367 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: hate the fact I've chewed up the shot clock so 368 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: much on stuff outside of your current gig. But I've 369 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 3: got to get I've got to get you before I 370 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: know we got wrapped here soon. But I I'm excited 371 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 3: for you in this new opportunity. We were talking before 372 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 3: you came on about how much you're enjoying this role 373 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: at the Panini Senior Ball. So just give us, give 374 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: us a little thirty thousand foot view of where things 375 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 3: stand right now with the with the leagues, with the 376 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: sports premiere All Star Game, and what you're excited about 377 00:17:58,680 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: going forward. 378 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: Well, the one thing is we put out the Senior 379 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: Bowl top three hundred. I didn't like the idea of 380 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty or nine hundred players out there 381 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: because I wanted to produce it down and make this 382 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: an honor as just even put them on the top 383 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: three hundred, and again, I got a great feedback from 384 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: a lot of coaches, a lot of liaisons that said, 385 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, hey, we're for over debt because you know, 386 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: this is a prestigious, you know bowl game. I mean, 387 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: it's the premier bowl game, all star game of ball, 388 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: and it always have been, always willy. So that's the 389 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: one thing I started with. And now they can play 390 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: their way into an invite if they're outside of the 391 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: three hundred. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying out 392 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: of these three hundred, I'm gonna take one hundred and 393 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: forty out of that, you know, three hundred that's gonna 394 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: be a roster. Now, there's tons of time for guys 395 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: to actually you know, play their way into the game. 396 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: With production and everything else, the other piece of it is, 397 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: you know that we're kicking off a lot of different things. 398 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: And I changed the schedule of the entire week, and 399 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: I think you'll all be for real because there will 400 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: be only one night of interviews on Monday evening, and 401 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: the interviews will be in the morning on Tuesday, Wednesday 402 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: and Thursday, and every single evening. 403 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 4: Will be free. 404 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: That's great, that's great. It's good for the restaurants in town. 405 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: I know they're on things. 406 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: Here's here's here's why I mean, and please put this 407 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: out there. This used to and you guys know this. 408 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: This used to be the NFL coach's kind of unofficial convention. 409 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, until until. 410 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: The interviews got so structured and everything else that they 411 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: started getting caught up by the personal departments. 412 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 4: Going, well, if you're there, you're going to be in 413 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 4: here interviewing all night long. 414 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: And well, they came down here to network, they came 415 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: down here looking for a different job. They came down 416 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: here if they're fired, they're looking for a job. Well, 417 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: it was the great time for that because when they 418 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: go to the compline, most of the jobs are already filed. 419 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to get these guys excited about coming 420 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: down here and want the coaches to know part of this, 421 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: I mean just part of it was for them. This 422 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: was primarily about the player, because you guys have been 423 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: through the interviews just like I had, And when I. 424 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 4: Went through them, I was beat down. I guess what, 425 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: I can't imagine. 426 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: What they felt after a full day of practice and 427 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: everything else, and then all of a sudden, you go 428 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: and eat and you're stuck in there from seven o'clock 429 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: to ten o'clock every time. So I really started about 430 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: the player. But now it's kind of morphed into guess 431 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: what personal people are going to be free. 432 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 4: Coaches are going to start coming back down here. They're 433 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 4: going to be free. 434 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: You know, the players and the agents can get together 435 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: at night, because they were complaining about they could never 436 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: see their clients at night, you know, because we rush 437 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: them off the field to get them to eat and 438 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: get them to meetings. 439 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 4: Well they were like, well when can we what we 440 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 4: meet with them? Well you couldn't. 441 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: So, like I said, I'm trying to make it better 442 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: for everybody. But it started with the player, and that's 443 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: where they'll always kind of end and start with me. 444 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: But I think I'm kind of hitting a lot of 445 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: other you know areas by just doing this. 446 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: Did you tell me? Tell us right now? What is 447 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: your staff like, this is the kickoff of Fisier, kickoff 448 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 2: to college football season. What do you what are your 449 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 2: staff doing this week and throughout the season. 450 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not going out this week. 451 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: I'll be going out probably like every other week or 452 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: maybe every third week. 453 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 4: And and you know I can get more done, you know. 454 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: On multi view on you two TV and watch sixteen 455 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: games and you know, check the flashes and then go 456 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: back to maca watch the tape. Well, we have various 457 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: scouts that are posted all over the country and they 458 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: go to games that they deem important for them because 459 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: they're grading tape. Now, we just gave them their lists, 460 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: so they're cross checking us, and then we're cross checking them, 461 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, throughout the fall, and it becomes a collaborative, 462 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: just like just like the league does. Jim, you know, 463 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: Jim Nagge did a great job here, and you know 464 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: he structured this the right way. So I'm not changing 465 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: any of the structure. It's built like an NFL and 466 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: ball club because we got two in house scouting assistants 467 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: we've got you know, Jack Gilmore's my you know, Ops 468 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: got heat, great state by grade tape, the scouting assistants, 469 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: great tape. And then we got ten other guys out 470 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: on the road that are grading tape too, and you know, 471 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: again it's it's a well organized machine. And I'm happy 472 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: beat that I walked into something where when I walked 473 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: in the door, there was already two NIF players on 474 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: the and that was in I think it was late 475 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: Nay when I first interviewed and I saw the boy, 476 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: so there ahead of schedule. 477 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 4: They really are. So that's what's going to happen. 478 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: And you know, getting the invites won't go out until 479 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: about middle November. 480 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 4: Guys can play into this band. 481 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: I keep saying that, you know, I don't think it's 482 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: just because the three hundreds after there be you know, 483 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: just dealing off for those three hundred players. 484 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 4: So that's what's going on. So it's gonna be busy, fault. 485 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited for I'm excited for this new role. 486 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: I'm excited to get out there. It won't be too 487 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: long before we'll be out there for this ball game. 488 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: And the meantime, coach, now that you're you're settled in there, 489 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 3: just go across the street. Let's go get a little 490 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 3: Mediterranean sandwich shop. It's a good spot. We can go 491 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 3: hit panini, pizza, whatever you want, whatever you want for lunch. 492 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: It's it's on us. Get go enjoy yourself. 493 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm going to trust me. I never got that. 494 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 4: I never got any opportunities to down here. You know that. 495 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: It was always like, hey, we're going to check flight. 496 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 4: Hey we're going. Yeah, let's go. 497 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna have plenty of time now. But hey, look 498 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: forward to seeing you guys down here. And you know, 499 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: anytime you need me, please feel free. 500 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: We will reach out. Coach. Enjoy enjoy the kick off 501 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: the college football. It's great to catch up with you. You 502 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: didn't have to answer it because I already knew I 503 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: was your favorite quarterback that you that's right, that's right, baby, 504 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 3: all right, appreciate you, coach, have a great one. 505 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 4: See you guys. 506 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: So as I told you, it was a great conversation. 507 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: Drew is doing fantastic stuff. A unique journey, going from 508 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: being a coach, DJ's coach to being a scout to 509 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: now taken over the Senior Bowl. After a short stint 510 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: as a general manager at Auburn and then at West Virginia. 511 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 2: Fantastic insight. We're looking forward to having him back on 512 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: as we get closer to having the paths of the draft, 513 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: which includes a stop in Mobile, Alabama for the Senior Bowl. 514 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: But until next time, I'm Bucky Brooks. That was Dame Jeremiah. 515 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: This is move the sticks. We'll talk to you next time. 516 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: At the cost contain inste