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Speaker 1: Mist goal at the two.

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Speaker 2: tight end set left. Rogers takes the snap, play action,

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Speaker 3: Front by pile on Garren Wilson.

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Speaker 2: That's a jet to town Jark Wilson toe taps just

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers puts him.

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Speaker 3: Right in his hands.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're just a bunch of

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Speaker 4: old men.

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Speaker 3: Egin gracefully like Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: That was Aaron Rodgers connecting with Garrett Wilson, w AXQ

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Speaker 4: Bob with Susan on the call, A happy night in

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Speaker 4: Medlife Stadium.

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Speaker 3: A blowout.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was twenty four to three New York

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Speaker 4: Jets over the Patriots, and that score flatters the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: It was such a blowout. I'm Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 4: I am so delighted to be joined on this Monday

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Speaker 4: night or Thursday night rather for the re cap with

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Speaker 4: my friend the great Dave damaschek Check. I'm sorry I didn't,

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Speaker 4: you know, deliver a better game for you. My hometown

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Speaker 4: Patriots gave up us a stinker for our recap.

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Speaker 2: Listen so far your performance has been noble. I you

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Speaker 2: know this must be just a sea of emotions for

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Speaker 2: pros pro, but boy oh boy, AFC East specific when's

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Speaker 2: the last time the Patriots got it handed to them

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Speaker 2: by a division foe like that. The only one that

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Speaker 2: thirty one?

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Speaker 1: Nothing right? Or was that thirty eight nine?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean the Bills over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 4: they didn't have a defensive stop and Bill Belichick is

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Speaker 4: still the coach that is somehow more embarrassing. But to

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Speaker 4: your point, sheck, this was the first twenty point lead

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Speaker 3: True, I mean it is.

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Speaker 1: Lead against any human beings you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Against the Patriots. Against the Patriots, I mean.

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Speaker 4: The Patriots had won fifteen straight until last December. That

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was.

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Speaker 4: It's a tough night if you're a Patriots fan who

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Speaker 4: expected a lot out of the season. But I gotta say,

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Speaker 4: They're going to be in primetime a lot. That's the

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think if you're a Jets fan, your

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming if you're a Jets fan.

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Speaker 2: He's a forty year old man after all, And when

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Speaker 1: We know what happened, but he looked good doing that.

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Speaker 2: Bounce in the pocket, he looked good. Throwing outside the pocket.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, listen, the one thing I have cautioned

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Speaker 2: They were running the ball nicely, so yeah, I guess

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: Like, it's such a long season, and I know my

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Speaker 3: And I get it.

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Speaker 4: I thought the Patriots would be competitive in this game.

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Speaker 4: I thought they'd cover the six. But you can sometimes

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Speaker 4: get a little foolish. These first few weeks can be

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Speaker 4: And what I thought we saw tonight was, Okay, Aaron

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Speaker 4: there was literally nothing down the field. He didn't try

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Speaker 4: And you said it, Jets fans can feel about as

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Speaker 4: optimistic as they've been since. I don't even know when

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Speaker 4: They did trash Tom Brady, who was a one seed

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Speaker 2: It's a plague that we must rule out football going forward.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard that that's the new

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Speaker 5: For what?

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Speaker 2: Who still look, who's still learning every day? He's getting

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Speaker 2: If the boss can do it, we all can. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Rogers didn't throw deep a ton, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: Bit of it.

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Speaker 4: A yes, and we're we're doing this live on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: We're going to try to do it every Thursday night,

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm like, I almost feel like Al Michael's I'm

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Speaker 2: Look for That's a very fun one, the one that

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Speaker 4: Uh. One of our viewers, Josh Lansky, says, Dave has

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Speaker 3: No, almost Tony Michelle.

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Speaker 4: They took Senny Michelle, wrong first round running back from

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Speaker 2: But yes, I think you Dave loves his history. I

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Speaker 2: Let's suck Jets, let's talk, Okay, But Tony Michelle, I

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Speaker 5: You're right.

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Speaker 2: But but I will say, Sony Michelle, I don't know

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Speaker 3: No, I agree with you. I always, I always stood

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Speaker 1: You're seeding the division at this point. To the Bills.

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Speaker 2: So you say you don't know how much the Jets

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Speaker 4: I came into this draft saying, since I've done this,

439
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Speaker 4: I think Caleb would be number two or number one,

440
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Speaker 4: depending on who you want to trust. And in terms

441
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Speaker 4: of like the consensus and what I think and what

442
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Speaker 4: everyone thinks into terms of the best QB prospects to

443
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Speaker 4: come out in the last twenty years, it would be

444
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Speaker 4: Luck and probably Caleb two.

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Speaker 3: And you're right.

446
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Speaker 4: For most people, it seems like it was maybe Lawrence three.

447
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Speaker 4: Never I never totally got there, and yeah, there might

448
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,719
Speaker 4: be something missing, but you might be right. And this

449
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 4: is why I like having to check on the on

450
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Speaker 4: the recap. You never know what we're gonna end up

451
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Speaker 4: talking about. It's a twenty four to three game and

452
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Speaker 4: we're veering off into Jags territory. It's one week like

453
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Speaker 4: if the Jags pull off an upset in Buffalo, Buffalo

454
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Speaker 4: is my Super Bowl pick this year to win it all?

455
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Speaker 4: I just thought, sometimes it's the years you don't see coming.

456
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Speaker 4: And I feel like Josh Allen's at the perfect time

457
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Speaker 4: in his career with the perfect offensive line and in

458
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Speaker 4: the long run, I'm gonna trust them whether they lose

459
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Speaker 4: this week against the Jackson or not.

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Speaker 3: You're right.

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Speaker 4: Those and two teams I picked almost all the O

462
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Speaker 4: and two teams that had a reasonable chance to win

463
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Speaker 4: this week, to either win or to cover.

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Speaker 7: To see too.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I was big on the Falcons based

466
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Speaker 2: on the math I'm talking about, Like, yes, ah, the

467
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Speaker 2: Falcons overrated. Kirk Cousins cooked like they just played a

468
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Speaker 2: great defense down there. That is that approaches every game

469
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Speaker 2: with the intent of winning. At twelve to eleven, don't

470
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Speaker 2: overreact to what the Falcons looked like in Week one.

471
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Speaker 2: They're gonna beat the Eagles up there, and so they did,

472
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Speaker 2: and they're gonna beat the Chiefs again too.

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Speaker 3: I could see that.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't think it will happen, but the

475
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Speaker 4: Chiefs haven't really been the Chiefs so far. Eighteenth and

476
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Speaker 4: DV away a little weird. Let's take a pin in

477
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Speaker 4: it right there. We're gonna take a quick break and

478
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Speaker 4: we'll be back to talk a little more Jets Patriots

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Speaker 4: after this. Okay, So thinking about this game tonight too, Like, look,

480
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Speaker 4: it's also one game. This was a Thursday night game

481
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Speaker 4: on the road, short week. Patriots are a limited team,

482
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Speaker 4: like they I think teams play to their level and

483
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Speaker 4: over the long run, and I think they had a

484
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Speaker 4: great game plan. Week one showed that they could be

485
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Speaker 4: really cohesive and smart on defense. They have a lot

486
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Speaker 4: of tough, smart players that have been there a long time.

487
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Speaker 4: They're kind of greater than the some of their parts.

488
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Speaker 4: They do a lot of confusing things that can mess

489
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Speaker 4: up quarterbacks but not quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers. Week two,

490
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Speaker 4: they play the Seahawks pretty much to a standstill. I

491
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Speaker 4: thought looked like an even team to me. Those were

492
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Speaker 4: like two A minus games from a team, and no

493
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Speaker 4: matter what team you are, you're probably not going to

494
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Speaker 4: play three straight of those. And so you got like

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Speaker 4: the D the D D minus game out of them tonight,

496
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Speaker 4: and that averages out to what they really are. They're

497
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Speaker 4: somewhere in between. They're not as good as they were

498
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Speaker 4: the first two weeks. I think some weeks they'll have

499
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Speaker 4: good game plans on defense, and they have enough defensive

500
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Speaker 4: players if they can stay healthy enough that they'll create problems.

501
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 4: The offensive line, though, is so bad that most weeks

502
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Speaker 4: with this schedule, it's going to be an uphill battle.

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Speaker 4: So they had a couple injuries tonight too. Keon White

504
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 4: left this game at one point. Anthony Jennings, who's a

505
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 4: good linebacker for them, left this game at one point.

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Speaker 4: Jabrill Peppers left this game. Keon White, who had a

507
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Speaker 4: bunch of quick pressures in this game, has been their

508
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Speaker 4: best player I would say on defense overall. Him and

509
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Speaker 4: Christian Gonzales, like if they're missing their premier players, Christian

510
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 4: Barmer's at blood clots like, it's not going to be pretty.

511
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Speaker 4: They're not that good on defense. They can give up

512
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Speaker 4: four hundred yards to a team like the Jets, and

513
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Speaker 4: they did, and then suddenly you're one of the worst

514
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Speaker 4: teams in the NFL because you have no passing game whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: And that's the team they were tonight, So it's gonna

516
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Speaker 4: be You're right. The feel good story that they had

517
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Speaker 4: I think is especially disappointing defensively because I don't know

518
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Speaker 4: if you like to watch the Prime Vision, Dave, but

519
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 4: my boy Walker loves the Prime loves the numbers, loves

520
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 4: the view, loves the names are on the screen. And

521
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 4: when you're watching on the Prime Vision, you can just

522
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 4: see how, like Aaron Rodgers, he's calling those plays out there,

523
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 4: he knows what the Patriots are doing before they're doing it.

524
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Speaker 4: He's changing it. If it's Man, he knows who it's

525
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 4: going to. If it Zony, knows who it's going to.

526
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Speaker 4: And when it was Man, there were three guys open

527
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Speaker 4: every play, I was like, oh, why didn't he throw

528
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Speaker 4: to him? Oh within this seventeen yards him, why didn't

529
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Speaker 4: he throw to him? And he knew it like they

530
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 4: didn't know what they were doing, and when it was

531
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Speaker 4: man he would just throw it to Garrett Wilson and

532
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Speaker 4: it didn't work actually that efficiently. I think Garrett Wilson

533
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Speaker 4: had nine targets and he had the great touchdown, but

534
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Speaker 4: only thirty something yards. He's been a little slow, but

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Speaker 4: I think that's because he's playing against one of the

536
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Speaker 4: better cornerbacks in the league.

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Speaker 3: I think Kristin.

538
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Speaker 4: Gonzalez is that good. He's a special young player. But

539
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Speaker 4: other than that, they don't have much. It's gonna be

540
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 4: a long season. I thought Drake May was going to

541
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Speaker 4: come into this game and make me feel better.

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Speaker 1: But you don't want him in the game, do you.

543
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Speaker 1: You don't want him to.

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Speaker 3: Get be taken. I am want him. I don't care.

545
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Speaker 4: I guess I'm someone that's just like this. I don't

546
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 4: care about this team until he plays. Really, it's like

547
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 4: I just want to see He's the only to me.

548
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 4: I'm kind of happy because they have a quarterback, Like

549
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be great in the long run,

550
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Speaker 4: So he's the only thing I care about in this team,

551
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Speaker 4: and that the coach maybe is good long term, so

552
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Speaker 4: I would just just play him I don't care if

553
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Speaker 4: it goes poorly.

554
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Speaker 3: How much point poorly is it gonna go?

555
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: I listen, you can make yourself crazy watching pro football.

556
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: You can spook yourself at the end of every play.

557
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: It feels like maybe I've just watched too much football

558
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: over the years, But you can kind of talk yourself

559
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: into every collision being like, I hope that's not a

560
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 2: season ender for this guy. And that's what I'm talking about.

561
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Speaker 2: But it's it's heightened with Rogers given the way he

562
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Speaker 2: went out at the start of last season. But the

563
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: combustibility now extends beyond just you know, his age and

564
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: everything and the way he plays, or at least he

565
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Speaker 2: always has played, and it looks like, based on tonight,

566
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Speaker 2: that's why he's gonna play. The two things that stand

567
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: out to me, it was in an anomalous performance. As

568
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: everybody's been talking about, there's not much offense in pro

569
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: football so far this season outside of Kyler Murray, you know,

570
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Speaker 2: against the Rams, and then they shootout with the Bills

571
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Speaker 2: in Week one and.

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Speaker 3: Didos looked pretty good.

573
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's there's some exit, but for the

574
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Speaker 2: most part, the defense is winning, which is not something

575
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: that's the thing that kind of stands out. Usually offenses

576
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 2: win the first half of an NFL season, then the

577
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: defenses rise up. They're ahead of schedule. Are these defenses

578
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: dominating teams here? So so that's something to watch. But

579
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Speaker 2: the other one is, like I say, with the combustibility

580
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Speaker 2: of it is, and I'm not I'm.

581
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: Not being a hater or anything. Some people get this.

582
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Speaker 2: They get themselves into a position where that if you

583
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: insult them, they have people who jump back on you.

584
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: You hate him so much, I'm not hating Aaron Rodgers

585
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Speaker 2: to point this out, that shove with with Bob Sala was.

586
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Speaker 3: A little Yes, wasn't it?

587
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: Wasn't that a little word?

588
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Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought this up.

589
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: If you guys want to check out the YouTube show

590
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 4: where they're like subscribe.

591
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: If not, we're just going to talk about it. But

592
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: but play.

593
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: Eric behind the Glass has the video of it, and yes,

594
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 4: it was Salah looking for a hug, but Rogers putting

595
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 4: his two hands on Sala's chest and then saying something

596
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 4: very sharp and giving him a sharp glare that uh,

597
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going I mean, he gave him

598
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 4: a literal shove his head. Coach and the whole I thought.

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00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: I thought even worse was if I glared at you

600
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: you like that, you would be in any situation, you'd

601
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: be like, what the hell, man, what's wrong?

602
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: What do you want to you want to go?

603
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 8: Like?

604
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: I mean, why why are you looking at me like that?

605
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: Holding the glare as he walks away, like who do

606
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: you think we are? We're platonic friends, man, We're not

607
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 2: like that. I don't see you like that. Bob, like

608
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: what that was super weird and emasculating for the head coach,

609
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: and this is at least now what the second time

610
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Speaker 2: that publicly the Rogers just kind of showing up his

611
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: head coach like yeah, I'm going to Egypt, it's more

612
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: important to me. And then Bob Salah has to clean

613
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: up the mess like we talked about it, but he's

614
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: just suspended. It's just it's not it's not optimal. I

615
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't think.

616
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Speaker 4: Right, no, And I thought, you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick on

617
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Speaker 4: the halftime show for Amazon made a comment about it,

618
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 4: just like I'm sure Mike McCarthy is watching this and

619
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Speaker 4: Lafloor and they're just like, yeah, that kind of seems

620
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Speaker 4: like like familiar, old competitive Rogers, just like he's at

621
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Speaker 4: a foot in his home right. I mean, he's at

622
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Speaker 4: a point in his life where he picked the coordinator

623
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Speaker 4: and he's he's got the offense that he's want. He's

624
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Speaker 4: calling the plays and I don't know what that was about,

625
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 4: and they'll chalk it up, I'm sure to it's it's

626
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 4: in the heat of the moment, and I don't know.

627
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Speaker 3: It's just strange.

628
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Speaker 4: Can you imagine any other I can't imagine many other

629
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Speaker 4: starting quarterbacks doing that to their head coach in a

630
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 4: big spot.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can see coaches doing it and quarterbacks getting

632
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: into a rift.

633
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: You know.

634
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: It's We've seen stuff like that happen in football or

635
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: the big baseball star in the dugout with the skipper. Otherwise,

636
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: when you don't see it is after your team scores

637
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: a touchdown. That's what's weird about it. It's sort of,

638
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: as I tweeted, it really is sort of like an

639
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: inversion of Ali's thing, we not me is like it

640
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: really is like no, no, me not.

641
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: We don't.

642
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: Let's not get this twisted, Bob Soala. If the Jets

643
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: go anywhere this year, I'm the guy. You're just a

644
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: passenger along for the ride. You You and Douglas screwed

645
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: up that whole thing with Reddick and I'm trying to

646
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: overcome this.

647
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: By the way, that's a weird spot too.

648
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Speaker 2: Both of those guys have to put up with any

649
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: of it because they know that Rogers is either going

650
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: to save their job or they're gonna get kicked out

651
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Speaker 2: the door.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So one of our our viewers, Rick Shelton said,

653
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Speaker 4: lip readers thought he said too early, which kind of

654
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: makes sense, like that Salah was like over celebrating and yeah,

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Speaker 4: Shelton also points, but the glare is wow. So it's

656
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 4: a it is a strange reaction, but that is a

657
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 4: that makes sense to me. It's just like, all right,

658
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 4: let's calm down, Bob, it's the second quarter here in

659
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 4: week three.

660
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Speaker 3: Uh, let's listen to Robert Salah.

661
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 4: I believe we actually have sound of Robert Salah talking

662
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 4: about it after the game.

663
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 5: What happened in the second quarter looked like you went

664
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 5: up and tried to give Aaron Rodgers a hug there.

665
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 5: Yeah he uh. You know, part of the things that

666
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 5: we've been talking about is to just get the defense

667
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 5: a two score lead, and it was two score leads,

668
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 5: So I guess it was he just wanted to see

669
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 5: something on defense.

670
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: So hmmm, he wasn't ready for that question. That was

671
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: so nervous.

672
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: There is some pro football team he has to put

673
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: up with this. He has to be emasculated like this.

674
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 7: Shame the devil.

675
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: I love it all right.

676
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 4: The Jets get to two and one and they're feeling great,

677
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 4: and yeah, you mentioned Morgan Moses will see it was

678
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: announced as a knee injury. I didn't even mention when

679
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 4: I was seeing the offensive weapons. They really liked Tyler Conklin.

680
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 4: He had a big night at tight end. He was

681
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: their leading receiver by far. So just the secondary was awesome.

682
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: I mean, you can put these guys in man coverage

683
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 4: against receivers like the Pageots, They're just gonna shut them down.

684
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 3: An awesome night for the Jets.

685
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 4: I think they kind of announced they are going to

686
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: be a big part of this twenty twenty four season

687
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: if we didn't believe it before. Before I say goodbye

688
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 4: to you, check, let's have the comment Chris Green says,

689
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: Dave Steelers are gonna get cooked on Sunday. I gotta

690
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 4: say this was maybe the toughest game for me to

691
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: pick of the weekend Chargers Steelers kind of mirror images,

692
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: except the Steelers can't actually run the ball at all

693
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: and the Chargers can't and one has Justin Herbert and

694
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 4: the other is Justin Fields. I know Herbert's a little

695
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,239
Speaker 4: banged up. You know which Justin would you rather have some?

696
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 4: I'm leaning Chargers. And yet this, this this Steelers team

697
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: is pretty frisky. They very well might have the best

698
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 4: defense in the entire NFL, and in this year. Maybe

699
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 4: that's actually a recipe if your offense is okay to

700
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: get like a four seed or something win a division

701
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 4: like it's possible if they're that good. To me, that's

702
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: their only route to being that good is the defense

703
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 4: has to be the best one Tomlin's had in a

704
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 4: decade or so.

705
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: Funny, you say that pretty close to what I was

706
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: saying for the last couple of months. I predicted and

707
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: got a little bit of pushback from some of my

708
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: pals beat guys with the Steelers, but floated the idea

709
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: that I think that this is Tomlin I think got

710
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: a little over his skis on more than one occasion

711
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: going into a season with where the defense was and

712
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: how much he could ride it over the course of

713
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: a season.

714
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: I think this is it.

715
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: This is the best defense they've had since twenty seventeen,

716
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: which is really saying something since Shazier went down. I

717
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: don't really see a flaw out there. If they can

718
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: hold up at the second corner.

719
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: That was maybe Patrick Queen's been bad through two weeks.

720
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 4: He seems like a problem. They give him him a

721
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 4: lot of money that the linebackers. We'll see, But you're right,

722
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: the rest of the team's dynamite not to butt in

723
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: and give you.

724
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: I think they have enough. I do think that they

725
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: have a fail safe.

726
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: A Landed Roberts isn't a guy who could be every

727
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: down out there, but they you know, they have pieces

728
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: on the interior that make them better at least than

729
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: where they've been in the.

730
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 1: Last half decade or so.

731
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: The thing that people said is a hot take for

732
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: me is I still think TJ. Watt is one of

733
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: the five best non quarterbacks in the league. A Jenga piece,

734
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: if there is one Jenga theory of courses, if you

735
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: remove the wrong piece from the equation, the whole thing

736
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: will implode on you. Got to have you, by the way,

737
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: I got to have you on my show so we

738
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: can do that. I want to go through the Jenga

739
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: pieces as they stay with it's a satisfying conversation.

740
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: I always feel TJ.

741
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: Watt may be that one of the five best non

742
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: qbs in the league, most impactful, but I think the

743
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: Jenga piece for the Steelers this year is Joey Porter

744
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: because if he goes down, they're doomed. I think they're

745
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: better equipped to survive TJ. Watsonting down for three or

746
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: four weeks than they are JPJ. And look at that,

747
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: you know I've been proven right at least through two weeks.

748
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: He erased Drake London and then did the same to

749
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton last week, and I think a lot of

750
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: people again, like I was saying, people reacted to boy,

751
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: this Falcons offense isn't as good as we thought it was. Well,

752
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: Drake London was a zero in peak one because Joey

753
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: Porter Junior eliminated him. So by that logic, if he

754
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: is on Quintin Johnson, which he's going to be, and

755
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: he eliminates him, where exactly is justin Herbert going with

756
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: the ball? Lad McConkie is nice but he's a rookie,

757
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: so I think that's a factor. And the thing with

758
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: the Steelers is, and the debate has rolled on since

759
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 2: literally thirty two seconds after the Steelers got Russell Wilson,

760
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: and then a couple of days later the debates.

761
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy can't even get healthy. What's the point,

762
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 3: are you kidding?

763
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, oh no, no, it's the other way.

764
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: The collective wisdom from the banks of the Three Rivers,

765
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: the people watching practice every day, is oh no, it's

766
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 2: going to be Russ eventually. I hope that's not the case.

767
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the smart play.

768
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: But the bottom line, I.

769
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 3: Didn't even get on the field.

770
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: He came back up too the field, and he lasted

771
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 4: two practices before he like reaggravated it. Meanwhile, Justin Fields

772
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 4: is out there doing making winning plays. It's over two things.

773
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson people.

774
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: I think so too.

775
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: But you know, I think we are going to see

776
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: him because, as I've told you before, I think Mike

777
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: Tomlin is one of the three or four best coaches

778
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: in pro football. I also think he's able to achieve

779
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: that status despite not being a QB whisper. How many

780
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: guys who are at the high end of the key

781
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: of the head coaching ranks that really don't manage quarterbacks. Well,

782
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: he got off pretty easy because he had Rothlisberger for

783
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: such a long stretch, But since then it's really been

784
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: sideways more than one time.

785
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: I think the debate with.

786
00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: Justin Fields, my question is ongoing with anybody who says

787
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 2: it's got to be Russ, Like, what is it from

788
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: Russ that you think he does so well that offsets

789
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: what Justin Fields does that Russ can't do he has.

790
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to have a Russ Wilson at say

791
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: I say I will.

792
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: No, no, no, twenty seven more minutes, then we're done.

793
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: The thing that people keep trying to talk the way

794
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: around is Justin Fields, Russell Wilson or Greg Rosenthal. How

795
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: are you gonna throw the ball to somebody when you

796
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 2: have a collection of pass catchers, none of whom can separate.

797
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: Not a one of them out there can create any separation.

798
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: So what are you doing?

799
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: I mean like that you're gonna have a very hard

800
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: time on third and six. Is if you don't have

801
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson, who was always open, or someone like that,

802
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: maybe it'll be Roman Wilson if he gets out there,

803
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: but again, he's a rookie. I'm gonna take the Steelers narrowly.

804
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: Here home debut all of that.

805
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 4: I'm taking the Chargers if Herbert's healthy enough to play,

806
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 4: I assume he'll be okay.

807
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: Eleven thousand dollars on eleven dollars.

808
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 4: Right, I am not allowed to do anything of the

809
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 4: sort as the kid, one of our kids. No, you

810
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 4: can't do it through them either. It's been it's been

811
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 4: a thin slice of heaven there here. Dave will wrap

812
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 4: this up with one more comment from the YouTube commentary

813
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 4: as a Vikings fan. This is from Aldell Berry's I

814
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 4: like Rogers so much now that he doesn't play for

815
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 4: the Packers. Yeah, I heard a stat, and I gotta say,

816
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 4: I don't like Rogers, you know, the character, but I

817
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 4: do like watching him play football, and I like him

818
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: in the mix. He adds a fun even if it's

819
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 4: a little villainous. It's fun having him back in the

820
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: mix this This game is built by their quarterbacks and

821
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 4: we need more good ones.

822
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: So I was happy to see him out there. I

823
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: agree with that.

824
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw a stat that the the Patriots had won.

825
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: I believe twenty out of twenty three again or twenty

826
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 4: three out of twenty six against the Jets. The only

827
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 4: team that had that big of a run in the

828
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 4: last like two decades was Packers and Bears, with Aaron

829
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 4: Rodgers beating up on the Bears that whole time.

830
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: And now here he is cool.

831
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: He is very fun with those side arm throws that

832
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: he makes from down here. He is a distinctive to

833
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: your eye. If you shot him in silhouette, it would

834
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 2: only be him. You couldn't confuse him with anybody else

835
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: because the nature with which he you know, twenty ten,

836
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 2: I'd said that best quarterback I've ever seen in my life.

837
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: Many Well, I was.

838
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: Gonna say, I still think at his peak twenty ten

839
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: and then what was the other mid.

840
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: Twenty eleven and twenty fourteen, twenty eleven too high.

841
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 3: Twenty years.

842
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the twenty fourteen and the twenty ten to like

843
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 4: Mahomes is there is right there for me.

844
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to separate.

845
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 4: But to me, that was the peak of quarterbacking that

846
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: that I've seen. I wouldn't say he's had as good

847
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 4: a career obviously as Brady, and I think Mahomes is already,

848
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: you know, having the best career ever, but just in

849
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: terms of just pure brilliant peak play, and he's doing everything.

850
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 4: It's his offense, his scheme, and he's doing it again.

851
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: And I'm extending it further now a couple more I

852
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: have to throw out. Peyton Manning always gets a shout

853
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: out for the one year he had in Denver. I

854
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: think it was his second year there was, or maybe

855
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: it was his first one statistically at least. The one

856
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: who doesn't get the shout out is the fifteen and

857
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: one MVP throwing the ball to Philly Brown and otherwise

858
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: Cam Newton. That was a special year that was wild,

859
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: given how he performed over his underrated the majority of

860
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: his underrated career, although he may now be back. And

861
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: the other one, because I'm older than you, that I

862
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: have to mention is Dan Marino in eighty four.

863
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: That's the standard.

864
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: That was a different time when the rules did not

865
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: favor offense, and it was just trust me on this

866
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: week in and week out. When you were watching it,

867
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: it felt like, the hell is this well, he's four

868
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: or five touchdowns every week. There's a Dan Fouts move over, man,

869
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: this guy, this cat's where it's at with the perm

870
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 2: and I would tell everybody, Oh, listen, we know all

871
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: about this in Pittsburgh, PA.

872
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 1: Dandy Marine.

873
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: Now, Uh yeah, it's statistically.

874
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Speaker 4: I always said like he would be the only comp

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Speaker 4: that Patrick Mahomes has ever had for the start of

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Speaker 4: his career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Dan Marine. I think you got to

878
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Speaker 3: throw in Kem Case Keenum's Vikings. Hear two. That's that's

879
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Speaker 3: in the mix.

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Speaker 1: Thank thank you for that one.

881
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Speaker 4: Yes, but uh, let's wrap it up. We're gonna throw

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Speaker 4: it to a break. I appreciate you, Dave, I appreciate

883
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Speaker 4: everyone who joined us. This isn't actually the end of

884
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Speaker 4: our show. The Saints are the team of the week,

885
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 4: the team of the season so far. So I wanted

886
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 4: to have a fun conversation, uh with some friends of

887
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 4: mine who do the Saints Block Party podcast. So after

888
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Speaker 4: the break, we're gonna hear from them. Also, you know,

889
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Speaker 4: if you're into the Saints, we get a podcast Off

890
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 4: the Edge with Cam Jordan at NFL Media. He's a

891
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 4: great podcast though, so check that out too. We'll take

892
00:40:52,840 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 4: a quick break. We'll be back after Dave. All right,

893
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Speaker 4: we are back on NFL Daily. The last segment of

894
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Speaker 4: the week is going to be my absolute favorite one.

895
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Speaker 4: Having these guys on for the first time. Adam and

896
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 4: Ryan from the Saints Block Party podcast. They said it

897
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 4: couldn't happen you on NFL Media.

898
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Speaker 5: Let's go, let's go here.

899
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Speaker 7: We are here, we are Thank you for having us on.

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Speaker 5: Greg.

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Speaker 8: This is by far like the most boogiest podcast we've

902
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 8: been on. A guy at my door just knocked and

903
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 8: just offered me rose. His name was to your door.

904
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 8: There's a congierra service in our ear right now.

905
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 5: We don't know where. We don't know where we are.

906
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: Okay, let's be real. The Saints Block Party podcast, but

907
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 4: getting it done. For years, it used to be the

908
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 4: Saints Twitter podcast. I've talked about it a lot on

909
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 4: our show, on Around the NFL and on NFL Daily

910
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 4: over the years.

911
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: You guys crack me up.

912
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Speaker 4: You have the best analysis from a fan perspective out there,

913
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: so people should check it out. But we had you

914
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Speaker 4: on this week because it's a little different week in

915
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: Saint's fandom. It's a little different week. So let's just

916
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Speaker 4: take you back to three weeks ago. Okay, three weeks

917
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Speaker 4: ago listening to your podcast. I don't know if you

918
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: were still throwing out the hashtag fire Dennis Allen that

919
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: you had going last year. But if we weren't too

920
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Speaker 4: far from that, you guys are predicting like seven to

921
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 4: eight wins for the season. You were definitely pretty down

922
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 4: on Derek Carr hashtag the agenda talking about maybe Spencer

923
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Speaker 4: Radler ends up playing this year, and you're excited to

924
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 4: see them. And then I'm listening to your recap show

925
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Speaker 4: as I do from the last win over the Cowboys,

926
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Speaker 4: and I'm hearing the.

927
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Speaker 3: Number one offensive line in the league.

928
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Speaker 4: I'm hearing can we start talking about super Bowl?

929
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Speaker 3: I'll break out my Adam impression here. It's like, can

930
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Speaker 3: we start talking about the Super Bowl?

931
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Speaker 6: Here?

932
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Speaker 8: Ryan?

933
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Speaker 3: You know that's my Adam impression.

934
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Speaker 4: And I'm like, i gotta get these dudes on the

935
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Speaker 4: podcast because I've never seen a fan base flipped so

936
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Speaker 4: fast into just believing everything. I'll start with you, Ryan,

937
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 4: like what happened here? And do we is it almost

938
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Speaker 4: like apology time here for Dennis out and Derek Carr?

939
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Speaker 5: Hey, it might be, it might be.

940
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Speaker 9: I mean, listen, all we asked from the very beginning

941
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Speaker 9: was to show me, show me we heard all the

942
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 9: talk they said all the right things, but we had

943
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 9: to see evidence. All we could do is work off

944
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Speaker 9: the data that we are presented with. And look, first

945
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Speaker 9: two weeks, Dave showed us and Saints fans are just

946
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Speaker 9: dying for some good football, good fun football that they

947
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Speaker 9: could sit there on a Sunday. Greg, you've been in

948
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Speaker 9: New Orleans. You know how lit the city is when

949
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 9: the Saints are winning and having a good time. That's

950
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Speaker 9: all we wanted and we're getting it right now.

951
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what like that surprised you the most.

952
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: You were the one, Adam that through out there the

953
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Speaker 4: number one offensive line in the league, and that was

954
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Speaker 4: where I was like, Okay, these guys are going a

955
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: little crazy. You were at you were at Chile's like

956
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 4: drinking margaritas or something after the game taping. Yeah, that's

957
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 4: dedication to the podcast. So maybe that's a little that's

958
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Speaker 4: getting over our skis.

959
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Speaker 3: A little bit.

960
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Speaker 4: The number one offensive line in the league after two weeks,

961
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Speaker 4: But like, what what has you believe in?

962
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 8: So I think Ryan and Ryan has said it perfectly

963
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 8: that this offense is you know, the Mic McDaniels first

964
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 8: season in Miami kind of took every defense by surprise.

965
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Speaker 8: It was kind of I want to say, gimmicky. But

966
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Speaker 8: the thing that gives us confidence that this could be

967
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Speaker 8: sustaining for the SAS team is that the offensive line

968
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Speaker 8: is dominating and winning at the point of attack. If

969
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Speaker 8: you just take away all the ghost motion, all that

970
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 8: things that Clint Kuback is doing. This team is bullying teams,

971
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Speaker 8: and Clint Kubiak is he knows the weakness of this

972
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Speaker 8: offensive line. For Penning, you can't ask for Pinning, who

973
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 8: was aligned for for seasons, to just hold up in

974
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Speaker 8: pass protection time and time again, and snap after snap. Fuaga,

975
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Speaker 8: who's played great at left tackle. He's still a rookie,

976
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Speaker 8: so he has made it where they don't have to

977
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Speaker 8: hold up very long in pass protection. He's assinuating their

978
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 8: strength of the offensive line. This is a very very

979
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 8: athletic offensive line, and they're in space, they're moving and

980
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 8: maybe it was a little bit of hiperb believe, but

981
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 8: if you just go and just watch the film, these

982
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 8: the offensive line and Lucas Patrick a revelation from the Bears.

983
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 8: He seems like they could probably use him right now.

984
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Speaker 8: Had just come in at left guard and is just

985
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 8: bullying people on the interior. So they're just playing bully ball,

986
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 8: which when you're a defense and you're getting pushed back,

987
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 8: that's hard for any defense to stop. And that's one

988
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Speaker 8: thing that's a huge strength for the team that we

989
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 8: did not see coming into the season.

990
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like they're gonna have to drop back and

991
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: pass and pass protect yep. At some point they can't

992
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 4: just do this whole time. But I'm with you, like

993
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 4: you look at the strength of the team Fuaga. People

994
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 4: then think it was going to be a left tackle

995
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: and I know we're talking line right off the bat,

996
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 4: but that to me has been the story. And then

997
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 4: you got McCoy and Caesar Ruiz. Like you guys have

998
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: had your ups and downs. That's why I like listen

999
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 4: to your show. It's like I'm getting the inside scoop

1000
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 4: on the Caesar Ruiz career arc And you've been pretty

1001
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: down on Sezar Ruiz at some points, but he ends

1002
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 4: up getting paid Ryan. And then these dudes are just

1003
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 4: out there mashing people. And this week you got the

1004
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 4: Eagles who haven't been able to stop anyone on the ground,

1005
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 4: Like maybe they won't have to drop back and pass

1006
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 4: this week against the easy Eagles. When you got McCoy

1007
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 4: and Ruiz just blowing holes open.

1008
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we'll see. I mean what the Eagles

1009
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 9: are allowing? What about six point four yard's per carry.

1010
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 9: I mean I would be looking my chops if I'm

1011
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 9: Klink kobiek if I'm the offensive line.

1012
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 5: But like you said, I mean it's the NFL. Man.

1013
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 9: We only look at the games, you know, the last

1014
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 9: two games, but things change so quickly. But what gives

1015
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 9: me confidence with this team is has been the execution.

1016
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 9: Like just it's just hat on a hat, blocking and

1017
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 9: trying to dominate the guy in front of you. Even

1018
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 9: Chris Olave, Juwan Johnson, those guys are out there blocking

1019
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 9: their butts off.

1020
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 5: So that's what gives me confidence.

1021
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 9: But like you said, they will reach a point at

1022
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 9: some point, maybe the defense gives up some points earlier

1023
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 9: something like that where they're gonna have to drop back

1024
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 9: and pass. They're gonna have to see how Derek Carr does,

1025
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 9: how the offensive line does, our Trevor Bidding does when

1026
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 9: you have to, you know, take a seven step drop

1027
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 9: and you know, hit your target downfield, and it's gonna

1028
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 9: be interesting. I just can't wait to see because we're

1029
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 9: learning new things week to week.

1030
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: But but you guys think when when Derek Carr hit

1031
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 4: that Michael Jackson moved, was that the moment you thought, Okay,

1032
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 4: maybe we can't go to the super Bowl?

1033
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 7: I was so I was at the game. I think

1034
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 7: for me it was the.

1035
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 8: It was the she maybe the Shahet player or the

1036
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 8: AK screen that like sprung for a touchdown, because like

1037
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 8: I was in at and T Stadium, I'm like, what

1038
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 8: is even going on right now? Like it felt like

1039
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 8: a like a fever dream. But I want to add

1040
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 8: this point, and I want to give credit to Ryan

1041
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 8: because he was the one who had been advocating for

1042
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 8: this as soon as Clint Kubiak got hired. Is the

1043
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 8: utilization of Taysom Hill in the Kyle Uscheck role in

1044
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 8: this offense. And I think what you're seeing is shout

1045
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 8: out to Matt Patricia, who doesn't even look like Matt

1046
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 8: Patricia anymore. And we know who that guy was that

1047
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 8: talked on that Coaches podcast with Bill Belichick and Lombardi,

1048
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 8: but he made this style.

1049
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 4: He looks like not an extra on the Sopranos, but

1050
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 4: like the six the sixth dude at the table who

1051
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 4: just gets like two good lines.

1052
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 8: But I don't know who that is. Don't tell me

1053
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 8: that's Matt Patricia, that's not him. But he made this

1054
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 8: great point of teams don't really know defensive teams because

1055
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,959
Speaker 8: they don't practice it in training camp. They don't really

1056
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 8: know how to defend twenty one personnel anymore. And something

1057
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 8: that Kubiak is doing is when Taysom Hill's on the field,

1058
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 8: I don't know if defenses know what that identify him as,

1059
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 8: and they don't know what the personnel is if he's

1060
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 8: a tight end, is it is it?

1061
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Speaker 7: Is it?

1062
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 5: Or?

1063
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 7: Sorry?

1064
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 5: Is it twelve? Is it twenty one?

1065
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 8: So it's baking the offense very multiple and it's making

1066
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 8: the defense not know how to identify what may be

1067
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 8: coming at them.

1068
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: Right, And uh, like, where are you at Ryan with

1069
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 4: Derek Carr?

1070
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: Now, look, look I've been there.

1071
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 4: We had to have him on around the NFL back

1072
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 4: in the day for him to unblock me.

1073
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Speaker 3: So I've had Arek Carr upset about at me too?

1074
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 4: And there is something about this Kubiak system where he's

1075
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: not making as many decisions.

1076
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 3: I heard this you know story of Yep.

1077
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 4: It's like some people like a Tom Brady might think, oh,

1078
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 4: that's not real quarterbacking, but maybe not everyone can be

1079
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 4: Tom Brady. Not everyone can do the real quarterback and

1080
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: you must you must be loving life seeing this Kubiak offense,

1081
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 4: not asking car to do too too much, but when

1082
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 4: he's asked to make big time throws, he is making

1083
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 4: those big time throws right now.

1084
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 9: Right Because when he was brought in, it was kind

1085
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 9: of sold as, hey, he's gonna come in, he's gonna

1086
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 9: be calling all the protections and diagnosing the defense.

1087
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 5: At the line of scrimage, and blah blah blah blah blah.

1088
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 9: We saw like, yes, he was with Pete Carmichael, but

1089
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 9: we saw he struggled with that last year. They obviously

1090
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,479
Speaker 9: made the choice to real things back for him. Most

1091
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 9: of the work is done by Clint Kubiak and the

1092
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 9: coaching staff before the snap, where all he has to

1093
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 9: do is go out there, go out there, execute the

1094
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 9: progressions and hit the throat, and he's playing more confidence,

1095
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 9: with more confidence, and that way, you know, even on

1096
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 9: the deeper throws, which we know there's a lot of

1097
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 9: talk about his aggressiveness, but when he's able to just

1098
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 9: go and execute, he's able to go out and do

1099
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 9: it confidently without getting happy feed patting the ball like

1100
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 9: we've seen it in the past. So I like, I

1101
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 9: like this, Derek Carr, I'm with it. I'm rolling week

1102
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 9: the week, man, I'm not. Look, I'm rolling week the

1103
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 9: week and we'll see where it goes.

1104
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: Go ahead, you're making so many faces out him.

1105
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 8: Just hear what No, So my thing is even like

1106
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 8: a Derek Carr point. I think mine is just like

1107
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 8: I think, the fundamental point in this offense, and we

1108
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 8: were talking about this even before Clint Kobiat came, but

1109
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 8: especially when he came, is that you can't tell me,

1110
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 8: potentially that the same impact that Kyle Shanahan had on

1111
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 8: Christian McCaffrey's career when he got traded from the Panthers

1112
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 8: to the forty nine ers, you can't tell us that

1113
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 8: something similar couldn't happen for AK in a similar system.

1114
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 8: And lo and behold, two weeks into the season, that

1115
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 8: same type of career renaissance that Christian McCaffrey had with

1116
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 8: the Niners, AK is having with the Saints. But he

1117
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 8: just happens to be on the same team, something that

1118
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 8: we're both excited about and hopefully potentially it could happen

1119
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 8: if he exists and he can get healthy. Is the

1120
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 8: addition underrated of what Kendre Miller could actually be in

1121
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 8: this offense.

1122
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 4: Okay, y'all overrate the potential impact of Kendre Miller because

1123
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 4: on your show you were like, hey, Ryan, you were

1124
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 4: saying this that I'm like, are we thinking about it,

1125
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 4: you know, possibly making the super Bowl here?

1126
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 8: Now?

1127
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 3: Do we got a chance?

1128
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 4: And Ryan's answer was like, if we get Kendre Miller

1129
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: back healthy, I'm like this, dude, if you're you're just

1130
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 4: hoping he's such a like a backup running back and

1131
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 4: average back, like you guys are crazy.

1132
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 3: Like I'm telling you he's not that big of a deal.

1133
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 9: You say that now, but you're going to see because

1134
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 9: just just the addition of another physical running back that

1135
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 9: you could in juice but more juice.

1136
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 4: Got Jamal Williams getting five yards per carry a listen exactly,

1137
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 4: Jamal Williams is getting five yards to carry?

1138
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 9: Like what is going on in this world? And look,

1139
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 9: I know you got to feel good because I remember

1140
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 9: you getting dumped on. I think you guys did like

1141
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 9: a top ten running backs in the league, and you

1142
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 9: threw you threw like Elvicamaron.

1143
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 5: There and they're just talking on you. I'm like, I

1144
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 5: felt bad for my guy.

1145
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 9: I was like, you know, Greg is right, man, Evcamara

1146
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 9: is still good because it's still passed the eye test.

1147
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 9: All he just needed was an offensive line to actually

1148
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 9: black for him in a scheme and a play call

1149
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 9: it to actually put him in position.

1150
00:52:58,600 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 5: And they're doing it right now.

1151
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 3: This is crazy because yeah, you're right.

1152
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 4: I think you're talking about that running back draft that

1153
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 4: took him last year and then this year. I've been

1154
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 4: saying it too. So you have your agenda which has

1155
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 4: been put on hold, which is about Spencer Ratler getting

1156
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 4: some playing time at some point. My agenda for years

1157
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 4: has been, yeah, Ak is better than the numbers show

1158
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: that they're letting him down.

1159
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 3: He's my favorite type of runner.

1160
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 4: I think he's a we'll see, he needs to have

1161
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: a couple of big years, but he's gonna have a

1162
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame case someday because these running back numbers

1163
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 4: they're just not the same as they used to be.

1164
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 4: But when I look at the last seven eight years

1165
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 4: and I put who's been among the top three to

1166
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 4: five at his position, it's Ak, and those guys make

1167
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame and I was waiting because he's

1168
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 4: like Frank Ord to me, where he's just so good

1169
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 4: on the mental side of things. He's so good turning

1170
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 4: three into eight, and he's so good in the passing game,

1171
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 4: and he can do everything that you want. But when

1172
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 4: you're turning negative one into three or you're turning one

1173
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: into four, then the numbers don't don't look good. And yeah,

1174
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 4: he's not gonna break the huge plays, although he did

1175
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 4: on Sunday when you were there in the stadium, Adam

1176
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 4: on the reception. But he's gonna hit more like fifteen

1177
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 4: yard games twenty you know, ten fifteen twenty yard games

1178
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 4: rather than being a true burner. But it's been it's

1179
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 4: been a great year for my agenda. And you guys

1180
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 4: talk about his future. He's a free agent that'll be

1181
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 4: interesting to watch. But man, if they can keep Kubiak,

1182
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 4: he could have this career renaissance. The problem is, if

1183
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 4: I'm a k I maybe wait till twenty twenty five.

1184
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 4: I probably see in Gary Kubiak on I mean not

1185
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 4: Gary Kubak, Clink Kubiak on some other sideline.

1186
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 3: I would just follow him wherever he will.

1187
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 5: Well, we just we're not even thinking about it.

1188
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 9: We just thinking about twenty twenty four to see where

1189
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 9: this takes is because.

1190
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, is that because this seems so weird?

1191
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 4: Is that Adam Well, it's too early to even get

1192
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 4: into that. We're we're in like mid September, right they

1193
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 4: even think about like this, this could be like a

1194
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 4: one year bottle in time where you it's this older

1195
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 4: team to Mario Davis is older, Tyron Matthews older obviously,

1196
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 4: and maybe your coordinator is that gonna be there next

1197
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 4: to your car, like is having this magical year. It's

1198
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 4: a very much like living the moment, living the now

1199
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Speaker 4: type of year.

1200
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 9: Think about like with Shanahan went to the Falcons. He

1201
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 9: had those two years with the Falcons, went to the

1202
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 9: super Bowl the second year, not saying that's what we're

1203
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 9: gonna do, but I'm just saying it was that one

1204
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 9: year of where everything was working, the offense was great,

1205
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 9: and then he went on to greate the passes.

1206
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 5: It might be something like that. We'll see.

1207
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 8: I think this team right now has really re emphasized

1208
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 8: a point that you made way back in the day

1209
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 8: on the Round the NFL podcast. I think a lot

1210
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 8: of fans need to kind of heed is that every

1211
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 8: season you said, every season there's only one team that

1212
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 8: wins the Super Bowl, and sometimes just an exciting season

1213
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 8: for a team, even if they don't make it all

1214
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 8: the way can be so incredibly rewarding and entertaining and

1215
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 8: how to just enjoy that. So I have no idea

1216
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 8: what the end goal or end game of this team

1217
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 8: is gonna be. But it's just so like surprising out

1218
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 8: of nowhere that as a fan just really enjoying and

1219
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 8: relation in it.

1220
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 5: That's it.

1221
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 3: Plus it's good for business.

1222
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 4: You got You're gonna have more people like listening in

1223
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 4: on your life stings and stuff.

1224
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, we started a podcast like right after right when

1225
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 9: you know, the Thebais and Drew Brees and Cham Payton retiring,

1226
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 9: and it was just there's some tough times. So we're

1227
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 9: enjoying this right now.

1228
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 4: Wait, Adam you, how are you guys feeling about Seohn

1229
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 4: Payton struggling so much in Denver?

1230
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 5: Like?

1231
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 3: What is what is your honest opinion?

1232
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 8: I'm worried about me, bro, Like, honestly, I'm hate hate

1233
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 8: I made listen. I I don't really have an opinion

1234
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 8: on it because I'm just so focusing on on what.

1235
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 3: What are you a politician?

1236
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 4: I mean, give me give feeling you got to put

1237
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 4: Carmichael over there. You're probably liking that they look they

1238
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 4: look like jumps.

1239
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 8: The starting quarterback for the Sames is Derek Carr. Like

1240
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 8: I've picked up on how to how to answer? Are

1241
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 8: some things right? It's like very very diplomatically like, but

1242
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 8: that's that's my I don't have any like Ryan, do

1243
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 8: you have an opinion?

1244
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 5: Like do you really care? Like I mean, I just

1245
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 5: I think I think it'll work out.

1246
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 9: I don't know how well it'll work out, but like

1247
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 9: it's gonna take some time, man, but it is interesting.

1248
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 5: I don't hate like chump paying like a lot of

1249
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 5: Saints fans.

1250
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 3: Why should you look what he gave me?

1251
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 9: But yeah, but you know, when they come to the

1252
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 9: Dome in a couple of weeks, I'm hoping Koobie I

1253
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 9: put that thing on them.

1254
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 3: That is a fun, fun matchup like this Saints.

1255
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 4: You're always just looking for value adds, like when you

1256
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 4: lose a quarterback, like like Tua is not going to

1257
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 4: be in the lineup for a long time. He's uninjured reserve.

1258
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: We'll see if he comes back. It's like that's a

1259
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 4: bummer because you just lose fun from out of my Sundays.

1260
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 4: When I'm watching that Seattle Miami game Sunday, it's just

1261
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 4: like man. And so the best thing that can happen

1262
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 4: is when you add these surprise teams out of nowhere

1263
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 4: and it's like, well, Saints Eaguals.

1264
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 3: Is now my game.

1265
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 4: I want to watch more than any game on Sunday.

1266
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 4: It's not just because I like watching the Saints. You

1267
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 4: were saying, like, I know what it's like for New

1268
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 4: Orleans to be lit for the Saints.

1269
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: I mean kinda.

1270
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 4: I was there, you know, going to every game when

1271
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 4: it was Aaron Brooks and stuff and they were into it.

1272
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 4: But I did go to the opener the year after

1273
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 4: they won the Super Bowl, and that was absolutely crazy

1274
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 4: in New Orleans. Like a couple of days that was

1275
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 4: like like a super Bowl. And that was Week one.

1276
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 4: It was against the Packers, and that was for days.

1277
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 4: It was like the Super Bowl was like Marty Gauss

1278
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 4: And yeah, no team I think is as tight with

1279
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 4: their their fans as that.

1280
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 3: Now that we've.

1281
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 4: Raised I don't want to get into expectations because I

1282
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 4: appreciate what you said, Adam about just enjoying it, and

1283
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 4: that's what fandom should be, like, just enjoy the ride.

1284
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 4: It really sticks with me that so many of my

1285
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 4: Celtics fans that I see around there and I'm that's

1286
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 4: probably the team I care about most in the world now,

1287
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 4: they didn't even enjoy last season as it was happening.

1288
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 4: I was like, this team's gonna win that I think

1289
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 4: they're gonna win, and if they didn't even enjoy it,

1290
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 4: they're just complaining about little things, and it's like, man,

1291
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 4: just enjoy it. Then at the end when they win,

1292
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 4: they enjoy, like enjoy the right and what is your

1293
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 4: I know you don't want to get ahead of yourself,

1294
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 4: but just kind of like, what's what's success now for

1295
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 4: this team? Like at this point, they've shown enough to

1296
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 4: me that like, man, if they somehow didn't make the playoffs,

1297
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 4: like that would be disappointed. We'll see what Tampa Bay's

1298
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 4: record is going to be. Maybe it might take eleven

1299
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 4: to twelve wins to win this division. We don't really know,

1300
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 4: but what what kind of what? What's what do you want?

1301
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 4: What's a successful season now?

1302
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 8: I think like realistically a playoff win, like okay, in

1303
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 8: the playoffs, maybe kind of like I think going back

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00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 8: to the Bucks, that that Buck season last year where

1305
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,479
Speaker 8: they won an NFC South they beat the Eagles, who

1306
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 8: was faltering, and stood pretty toe to toe with the Lions,

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00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 8: you know, for most of that game. Like, I think

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Speaker 8: that would be viewed as as a quote unquote successful season.

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00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 8: But before we wrap up, I feel like we were

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00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 8: a little being a little dismissive. We talked about the offense,

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00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 8: I guess love to the Saints, to the Saint's defense,

1312
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Speaker 8: Like we have not talked about this at all.

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Speaker 3: Give it to me.

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Speaker 8: I've just so you you put a hit on in

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Speaker 8: regards to kind of you know, the Saints, you know,

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Speaker 8: super Bowl contenders and just the discussion, and you made

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Speaker 8: the the analogy that we that we made on Tuesday

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Speaker 8: regarding you know, the Miami defenses. And my counterpoints to

1319
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 8: that is that those Miami defenses did not and have

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Speaker 8: a defense as good as the Saints defense.

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Speaker 7: It's like that's that's the big counterpoint.

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Speaker 8: Like if you're if there's an argument that this team

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01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 8: could maybe be playing I don't know, the Lions or

1324
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 8: the Niners in the NFC Championship game, the defense is

1325
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 8: obviously going to be also a big big part of that.

1326
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 8: And there's a lot of things kind of clicking for

1327
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Speaker 8: for this defense. And so they have a huge test

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01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 8: against the Eagles. Like, that's a big test. This is

1329
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 8: the biggest test that they have in terms of their

1330
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 8: run defense. We'll see if it's truly improved. It's probably

1331
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 8: the best offensive line run wise that they've played up

1332
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 8: to this point, and that's a big question because last

1333
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 8: year the run defense was not good. So nope, going

1334
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 8: to get Saquan and things like that. It's gonna be

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Speaker 8: a huge test for them on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: I think I think he could get pushed around. I

1337
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 4: think this Eagles offensive line is legit. I think it

1338
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 4: could be a higher scoring game than people will realize.

1339
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 4: Hurts is like a little off in terms of in

1340
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 4: rhythm throws, but they can they can mash And I

1341
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 4: do worry a little bit Ryan that, Like, you know,

1342
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 4: Granderson probably your best DL and he's playing well, But like,

1343
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 4: is that a great defensive line if Granderson's your best DL?

1344
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 4: To Mario Davis is still just playing awesome, Honey, Badger

1345
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 4: looks like he's gonna have one of those years like

1346
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 4: every three or four years he just pops out with

1347
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 4: like a first team All Pro year, and he might

1348
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 4: make the Hall of Fame because of it. He made

1349
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 4: an All Decade team. Most of those guys make the

1350
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. But yeah, tell tell the listeners kind

1351
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 4: of what you think about this defense. Maybe who's popping

1352
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 4: up that that's a little bit of a surprise what

1353
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 4: they might not know, because you're absolutely right, Adam to

1354
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 4: point that out. But I want to hear Ryan like,

1355
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 4: this is a dnnis Allen defense. He'd been running this

1356
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 4: thing for seven years now? How long is running the

1357
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 4: same Ya?

1358
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, since twenty since twenty sixteen, and it's been pretty

1359
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 9: consistently Yeah, pretty.

1360
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 5: Consistently good since twenty seventeen.

1361
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Speaker 9: I mean, look, the defensive line had questions going into

1362
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 9: the season, and I still have questions. Chase Young looks

1363
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 9: really good. He's getting a lot of pressures, he's physical,

1364
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 9: he looks different. But you know, you're not getting the

1365
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 9: sack numbers you want to see from the defensive line

1366
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 9: as a whole. Cam Jordan, you know, he's playing inside

1367
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 9: a little more, not playing as many snaps as he

1368
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 9: used to. As he kind of gets towards the end

1369
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 9: of his career, So I would like to see more,

1370
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 9: especially with the leads that they've had the past two weeks,

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01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 9: you would think you would see the defensive line just

1372
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 9: get a little more ferocious, but it also, you know,

1373
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 9: you just also see Dennis Allen blitzing a little more.

1374
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 9: Alante Taylor has been fantastic in the nickel cornerspot just blitzing, covering,

1375
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 9: tackling everything like he cam been with a completely different

1376
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 9: mindset this year. Kuli mckinstreet looks good pulsing the debo.

1377
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 9: I mean, you have the stat secondary and the linebackers

1378
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 9: are played well too, so you know it's gonna be interesting, man.

1379
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 9: But it's really gonna I really want to see this

1380
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 9: defensive line kind of step up for before I could say, hey,

1381
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 9: it's a Super Bowl team for real, because.

1382
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 5: You really, they're really gonna have to bring it, you know,

1383
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 5: going forward.

1384
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 4: This is one of those years though the NFC just

1385
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 4: I mean every year is like this to some degree,

1386
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 4: but the AFC is just a little different with all

1387
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 4: those quarterbacks and they're gonna get in there and it's

1388
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 4: just tough to go through two or three of those guys.

1389
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 4: The NFC, it's like it's gonna be a tournament, and

1390
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 4: if you can get a home game at least for

1391
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 4: your first game, maybe for two, you maybe get through

1392
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 4: that tournament.

1393
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 3: You know, it's what one game seasons.

1394
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 4: It's it's possible looking at the NFC and you know

1395
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 4: what's crazy about it, And we'll wrap with this. It

1396
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 4: kind of justifies if this season ends up being just

1397
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 4: that one season, that's just a lot of fun. We'll

1398
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 4: see if it continues. It kind of justifies this whole

1399
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 4: play that Mickey Loomis and Dennis Allen has had. This

1400
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 4: is theory, because my theory is, like I think it's

1401
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 4: absolutely true in NFL billions, just like let's just get

1402
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 4: to one more year, give us one more year of employment,

1403
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 4: and you never know what's gonna happen in that one year,

1404
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 4: So let's let's sell everything out to get to that

1405
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 4: one more year, because you never know if we'll finally

1406
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 4: get out of this set, like maybe we'll just everything

1407
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 4: will fall into place. We don't know, like we finally

1408
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 4: hit on the OC this year, like we don't know, Uh,

1409
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 4: things are happening. And if you can just justify that

1410
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 4: one more year is gonna get you three or four

1411
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 4: more years might get a new contract, might be a

1412
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 4: lot of fun. So all that begging and borrowing and

1413
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 4: trading the picks and and aiming for the middle with

1414
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 4: Derek Carr and man Adam, they they gonna, I'm not

1415
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 4: gonna say they're gonna shut y'all up a little bit,

1416
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 4: but they're gonna they're gonna make it all worth it

1417
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 4: and that they'll be happy about it their paychecks. And Mickey,

1418
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 4: Mickey will be there for longer than anybody in the NFL.

1419
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 4: He's out last Bill, Bill Belichick. Mickey's outlasted Bill Belichick.

1420
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 8: That crazy uh you you brought you brought them up

1421
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 8: the AFC and you know we're as fans were not

1422
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 8: looking for it. But that Kansas City game Monday night

1423
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 8: football in a couple of weeks, it looks, it.

1424
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 6: Looks so much better than cold And if if, if,

1425
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 6: by whatever chance, you have two four no teams on

1426
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 6: Monday night football like that, that's going to be that'll

1427
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 6: be fun.

1428
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 8: That'll be fun to see. But uh, truly, like, thank

1429
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 8: thank you for having us on. Man, this is as

1430
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 8: an honors, as a privilege. It's crazy how football can

1431
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 8: bring people together. We you, we've I've known you for

1432
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 8: for years. You know, we've been to each other's dater's

1433
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 8: birthday parties, We've been to events together where football has

1434
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 8: like formed actual friendships beyond that that has nothing to

1435
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 8: do with football, and it's it's beautiful. How how football

1436
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,959
Speaker 8: can can do that. So it's it's crazy that we've

1437
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 8: been on with you, but it's an honor of privilege

1438
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 8: and we we truly appreciate it from the bottom.

1439
01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 5: Of our heart.

1440
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 4: No, don't be silly. You guys have been killing it.

1441
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 4: It's overdue. And yeah, I think uh Ellis has still

1442
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 4: got that build a bear.

1443
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 3: In her room somewhere. She's she's starting thirteen this weekend.

1444
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 3: How about that? Speaking of Bruin, Oh what.

1445
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 4: I think we hung out at the beach and she

1446
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 4: was at she was like six years old back then.

1447
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 9: Oh crazy, I just want I want to know, Greg,

1448
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 9: can we get you down in New Orleans for the

1449
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 9: cash money Hot Boys Reunion?

1450
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 3: Is that is that like officially happening? When is that happening?

1451
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 5: The tickets are purchase? Come home.

1452
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 3: I'll try. I got to get the end. We we

1453
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 3: don't go to a lot of games.

1454
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 4: I wish uh maybe I'll try to convince the NFL,

1455
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 4: there's a big Saints game that week, and then sneaked

1456
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,959
Speaker 4: my way over to that. That was funny because because

1457
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 4: I was there. I was there in New Orleans at

1458
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 4: the absolute peak when Ha came out, when when it

1459
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 4: was all when when people thought missed the Cow was

1460
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 4: like the second best, you know, it was like bigger

1461
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 4: than Little Wayne.

1462
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 3: You know, I was there.

1463
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 4: It was like what it was like. It was like

1464
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 4: being in Liverpool when the Beatles came out. So I

1465
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 4: appreciate you both, Adam and Ryan. Like I said, check

1466
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 4: them out if you're watching on YouTube, check out the

1467
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,959
Speaker 4: Hot Saints block party merch.

1468
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Speaker 3: I like that.

1469
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 4: And yeah, they do the best job covering the Saints

1470
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 4: a couple times a week. They are awesome. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's been a fun week on NFL Daily. We will

1472
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 4: be back Friday afternoon. You might have seen with Cynthia

1473
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 4: Frielan I'm doing the Picks against the Spread every week.

1474
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 4: That's just a little mini show we're dropping in the

1475
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 4: feed Friday afternoon, and then we'll be back for our

1476
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 4: next big show recapping all the games in Week three,

1477
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 4: including Saints and Eagles on Sunday night. That'll be with

1478
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 4: Nick Chuck and Patrick Clayban until then, for Adam, for Ryan,

1479
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 4: for Dave Dama check. Yeah, it was a thin slice

1480
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Speaker 4: of heaven today Football is absolutely back to you next night.