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Speaker 1: are continuing a Bible study that we started at the

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Speaker 1: first of the year. It is on the book of Job.

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Speaker 1: We are today going to be in Job seventeen. If

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Speaker 1: up in a word of prayer and let's jump into

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Speaker 1: Job chapter seventeen. Lord, do we thank you for being

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Speaker 1: with us today as we walk through this incredible and

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Speaker 1: very provocative book of Job. May we open our minds

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Speaker 1: and as I've already learned going through this, I was

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Speaker 1: familiar with the book, thought I basically knew it, But

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Speaker 1: there's so many intricate details by going word for word

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Speaker 1: that we're learning each and every week, and we thank

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Speaker 1: you for that. They're all in here for a reason.

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Speaker 1: Help us today as we unpack this powerful chapter, and

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Speaker 1: your name we pray Amen. So in Job chapter seventeen,

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Speaker 1: Job is now replying to Eliphaz, who had another opportunity.

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Speaker 1: That was his second opportunity to address Job, and last

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Speaker 1: week Job was telling Eliphaz and his friends that they

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Speaker 1: are of no help to him. That what he needed

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Speaker 1: to provide, they are not providing. And so he was

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Speaker 1: Job began to address God and he began to cry

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Speaker 1: out for something that we all know with the New Covenant,

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Speaker 1: foreshadowing to the New Covenant last week. In those final

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Speaker 1: and the prospect of a near and unhappy death. Now

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Speaker 1: I get this all the time. Is that an unforgivable sin?

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Speaker 1: suicide isn't listed that way. It is a sin, but

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Speaker 1: is an unforgivable sin? Now that's a whole different. That's

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Speaker 1: a whole different deal. Here's how I've heard it. No

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Speaker 1: one who is truly redeemed would commit suicide, so that's

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Speaker 1: a sign they weren't redeemed. Okay, I've heard that, But

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Speaker 1: and they killed themselves. They listen to a lie because

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Speaker 1: we know which leads to a new podcast we're doing

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Speaker 1: called Strange Encounters. We know that even the redeemed can

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Speaker 1: be harassed by demons. They cannot be possessed by demons,

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Speaker 1: but they can be harassed by demons. The apostle Paul

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Speaker 1: bottom line is this job but has not done this,

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Speaker 1: But he's he's ready to go, and he's ready for

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Speaker 1: that's how it's gonna be for me. That's how I'm

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Speaker 1: I would not sign up for that one. So now

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Speaker 1: going to allow them to understand that you must be

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Speaker 1: don't we that God allowed his heart to be hardened.

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Speaker 1: There was a point where he said, even God now

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Speaker 1: he's saying that because you know what he knows about God.

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Speaker 1: That's where I think that transition comes. I wish y'all would,

425
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Speaker 1: Can y'all not? Why don't you join the course of

426
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: where I'm talking with the thing that gives me hope?

427
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: And I told you all that about me being stuck

428
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: on the plane with that guy. They kept saying, but

429
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: that's over, and it's almost like, you know, they come

430
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: over and say well, we thought God was going to

431
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: show us that you were innocent. But that's over. Guess

432
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: that hadn't happened. I call those people e ors. You

433
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: ever been around e ors? You know, everything's all there's

434
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: always some you get excited, you know, whatever, Hey, you know,

435
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: here we go, here we go to the theme park.

436
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: Of course the lines will probably super long. You know

437
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: that there's always some some downer that they bring to

438
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: the the whatever. Of course we're going to run into traffic,

439
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: you know. Okay, well, just let's have a positive attitude

440
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: about just a little bit. Uh So, then eleven my

441
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: days are past, my plans are broken off, the desires

442
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: of my heart. Huh So, he's been blunt that his

443
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: friends have no wisdom. He sees that his life and

444
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: eleven is fading. And this is the part that really

445
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: gets I mean, you start really having your heart broken

446
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: because what Job is also saying, he said, I understand

447
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: that my life is ending, But what's really bothering me

448
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: is that all the things that I still thought I

449
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: was going to do, all these dreams and aspirations that

450
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: I still have, they will be unfulfilled, and my hopes

451
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: are all dashed. I think he's at that point now

452
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: where he said, I thought at some point I'd pull

453
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: up out of this. God would heal me, God would

454
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Speaker 1: vindicate me. My friends would realize that this is not

455
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: what I need to hear. None of that is happening.

456
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: And I think that my days that are behind me

457
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: are much brighter than the days that are ahead of me.

458
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: My plans are broken off, and I had desires of

459
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: my heart things. I still wanted to do, the things

460
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Speaker 1: that I loved, and all of those things are gone.

461
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: You know. It's you know, we we're not controlled, in

462
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: control of the day that we're going to die. I mean,

463
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: we can do the best we can. As I said,

464
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: these decisions that we make, we make for quality of life.

465
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Speaker 1: I can't find in scripture that we do a whole

466
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Speaker 1: lot to extend the days of our lives. Maybe maybe

467
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: I've just missed it, but but I but I don't

468
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: see it there. But I do say a lot of

469
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: the choices were allowed that have a lot to do

470
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Speaker 1: with our quality of life. And you know, kind of

471
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Speaker 1: the thing. And there was a time I didn't feel

472
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Speaker 1: this way, but as I got older, I now I

473
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Speaker 1: now find myself not wanting to waste my life. When

474
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Speaker 1: I was younger, I wasted a lot of my life

475
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Speaker 1: because I don't think I cared. But but after I

476
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Speaker 1: was redeemed and I realized that, you know, the peace

477
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: of my eternity has been resolved. And then there was

478
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: an overwhelming pull that this life that Jesus gave me

479
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Speaker 1: that he had to go to the cross for, or

480
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: he was willing to go to the cross for is

481
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: a better way to put it. He didn't have to.

482
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Speaker 1: He was willing to go to the cross to fulfill

483
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Speaker 1: the will of his Father, to redeem those that that

484
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,239
Speaker 1: God is offering the grace and mercy to the gift

485
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: the son taking the wrath that we deserve. I found

486
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Speaker 1: myself kind of like we've talked about so many times

487
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Speaker 1: on the show, and I think we but I still

488
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: and also in this Bible study, but I think we

489
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Speaker 1: have to be sure we got it, you know. And

490
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: the and the Apostle pause, the one that seems to

491
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Speaker 1: talk about it the most, even though it was the

492
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Speaker 1: dedication of them all. But but you remember he talks

493
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Speaker 1: about pressing on, He talks about you know, he's straining

494
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Speaker 1: for for the end of his life and he's going

495
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: for the well done and all these things he keeps

496
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: saying working out as salvation. And sometimes I remember when

497
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: I was new to the faith. I'm like, I don't

498
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Speaker 1: know what he's talking about. We don't earn salvation, he's

499
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: not talking about that. Paul isn't uncertain of his redemption,

500
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: so he's not trying to be redeemed. That's been done.

501
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: What is all this action? You know? What is what

502
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: is even Peter talking about? And we have a forty

503
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: week curriculum on this called impact. What is all this

504
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: talk about making every effort to supplement our faith? You

505
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: know with these seven things that are there in first

506
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: second Peter chapter one? What is all this? Because if

507
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: you justified, you're justified. What is all this about? It's

508
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: about making your life count. It's about having an impact

509
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: for the kingdom. It's about standing before the one who

510
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: redeemed you, and here, well done, good and faithful servant.

511
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: The well done isn't because good job earning your redemption,

512
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: because we can't do that. It was good job with

513
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: your redemption. You didn't waste the life. And I want

514
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: to challenge all of you. I don't care how old

515
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: you are. I hope you're not wasting it. I mean,

516
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: if you can breathe make something happen. You know, the

517
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: new book that we just talked about, I remember my

518
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: dad and the analogy of that. You know, it's the

519
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: part about get out of the stands and what my

520
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: dad was saying, and I looked at it like the

521
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: Apostle Paul was. There's a lot of people right now

522
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: that see the things you're doing in your life and

523
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: they have no desire to be part of it. They

524
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: don't like the sacrifices that you're having to give. They

525
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: don't like that maybe you took your vacation and went

526
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: to a third world country as opposed to going to

527
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: some five star hotel. They don't really want any part

528
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: of any of that. They don't want to sacrifice an

529
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: they don't want to go to hell, but they don't

530
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: want to count the costs. They don't want to deny themselves.

531
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: They don't want to pick up their cross, they don't

532
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: want to go through that narrow gate. They want no

533
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: part of that right now. But when we all stand

534
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: before the Bamas set and they watch the Apostle Paul

535
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: getting the crown of righteousness, and they're watching the apostle

536
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: Paul hearing well done, good and faithful servants. And then

537
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: there's the apostle Paul said, along with all the others

538
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: who live their life the same way, every one of

539
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: them is going to wish they did. It's a better life.

540
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: It's not an easier life, but it's a better life.

541
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: And when you're doing something that matters, the difficulty of

542
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: all of it all doesn't seem to be so bad.

543
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: Where I get frustrated is when I'm going through difficulty

544
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: in things that don't mean anything. Don't enjoy that, but

545
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: difficulty for eternal things. They might be unpleasant for the moment,

546
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: but they're not a problem for me because I know

547
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: I can see the other side. What's not a lot

548
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: of fun is when you're like in some sort of

549
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: misery and you don't see what it's doing at all.

550
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what is going on here? Can we

551
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: not run an airline better than this? You know? But

552
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: that that's also I found out of what a way

553
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: to be a good witness. I did pretty good on that.

554
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: I didn't do great, but I did better than the

555
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: last time. How about that? And if you fly on

556
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: a commercial airline, you're going to get more than one

557
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: opportunity to be a good person into rest. Because of that,

558
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: they're never ever going to get it right because the

559
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: system is flawed and I could fix it if they

560
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: just let me. But anyway, So, but what he's saying

561
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: right here is everybody's gonna know at some point that

562
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: though they have got their idea of what this is

563
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: all about, I will be vendicate. But right now I

564
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: feel like that the things I still wanted to do

565
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: on earth, they're going to go unfulfilled by the way.

566
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: He's wrong. He's wrong. God has a plan for him

567
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: that's going to be even bigger than what he's already done.

568
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 1: But boy, right now, in that valley, he can't see

569
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: it right. It's in the valley. We just have to

570
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: clean to the promises, you know, cling to the promises.

571
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of times that you think to yourself,

572
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm going to get through this.

573
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: And you know what, that can be wonderful because finally

574
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: maybe we'll stop trying to do it ourselves. Verse twelve.

575
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: They make night, and today the light, they say, is

576
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: near to the darkness. My friends call evil good, and

577
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: they call good evil, And we know that in the

578
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: Great Book of Romans that Paul says, the day is

579
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: going to come where the whole society does that anybody

580
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: looking around, anybody paying attention, say, Pride Month goes on

581
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: for thirty days. Memorial Day is a Monday. Okay, we

582
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: take a Monday, and we celebrate people that sacrifice their

583
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: own lives for the good of other people. We give

584
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: them a Monday. We give celebration of sexual defncy an

585
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: entire month. And so when you look at that as

586
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: the state of the world, you see that once again

587
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: the apostle Paul was saying that day would come, and

588
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: that day is here, and he's saying, job is and

589
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: this is what my friends, you know, are like. They

590
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: take darkness and think they've got day, and then they

591
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: take the light and they think it's darkness. I'm sitting

592
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: here innocent. They think I'm guilty. And then he goes

593
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: on to say in thirteen, if you know, if I

594
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: hope for shee hole, if I hope as my house,

595
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,959
Speaker 1: if I make my bed in darkness, I expect to die.

596
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: I expect to go to the place of the dead

597
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: that they always talked about, and I expect to go there,

598
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: and I expect to just lie in darkness. Now once again,

599
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: this is this kind of throws us back to whatever

600
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: time period this is, and that's there's much debate about that.

601
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: There doesn't there doesn't seem to be a concept of

602
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: the resurrection of the redeemed. It doesn't it seem to

603
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: be there. He knows he's going to be all right,

604
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: but he doesn't know where he's going to be or

605
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: what that's going to be like. And next, you know,

606
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: he kind of gets into a grotesque analogy. Here if

607
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: I say, to the pit you are my father, and

608
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: to the worm my mother or my sister, kind of

609
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: an ugly picture here, death and all that goes with it.

610
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: They're my new family. My new family is just going

611
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: to be the pit and worms. That's what's about to

612
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: be for me. Now that that doesn't sound overly hopeful,

613
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: because we know that for those that are redeemed, these

614
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: things they will be, they will be exempted. We won't

615
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: experience that, as we're told in scripture that the redeem

616
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: will not experience the wrath of God. So then he

617
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: begins to cry out for hope. Where then is my hope?

618
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: Who will see my hope. Where is it you ever

619
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: been there? Where is my hope? Who will see my hope?

620
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: And I think, like when he's talking about facing death

621
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: and disease and you know the misery that he's in,

622
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: you know that it's one of those things that you

623
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: forget sometimes. And I think we've all been there. I

624
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: think most of us, especially the guys here from a

625
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: certain generation, we probably have a better pain tolerance than

626
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: a lot of people. But with the best of pain

627
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: tolerances are the best and the toughness toughest people. When

628
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: you start stringing together day after day, minute after minute,

629
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: hour after hour of misery, it weighs on you. I

630
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: don't care who you are, because you know what we

631
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: always like a right, this is bad, but I'm gonna

632
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: get to the other side of it. But when the

633
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: other side of it is so far away, I mean,

634
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: you really have to start breaking. If you've ever been

635
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: through it, you got to start breaking your life down

636
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: into just little segments, you know. Okay, right now, I'm

637
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: not completely paying free, but I had I had about

638
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. They kind of helped me to get to

639
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: the next fifteen minutes. They helped me get to the

640
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: next fifteen minutes. And see, see if I can't piece

641
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: together and you just start hoping because you know you've

642
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: been real sick, or do you just keep hoping? Please

643
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: tell me I can still go to sleep. Because as

644
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: long as you can go to sleep, that kind of

645
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: that kind of gets it gets all this behind you.

646
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: But what's the problem is what if whatever you got

647
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: you can't get any sleep, and then it really begins

648
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: to drag, you know. And so that's kind of he's

649
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: crying out saying, man, I need some relief, and what

650
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: is my hope? Remind me what my hope is? And

651
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: you know what we can say what the Apostle Paul said,

652
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: to live as Christ to die is gain you know,

653
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: I mean I have I have been with people on

654
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: their deathbed before and they went from really really down

655
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: to really really joyful because they begin to think, Wait

656
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: a minute, I'm miserable right now, I'm sick, my body's dying.

657
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: Nothing's working right. If they take blood from me one

658
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: more time, or put me on another IV, or give

659
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: me another shot, or do some other horrible thing to

660
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: me here in just a little bit, I'm never gonna

661
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: have to worry about sickness. Again. I'm not gonna worry

662
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: about the tax rate again. I couldn't give two pennies

663
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: who's the next president. I don't care what Putin's doing.

664
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't care what's going on in Ukraine. I don't

665
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: care if the streets are burning. I'm out. I'm going

666
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: to perfection. And if y'all want to keep this world,

667
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: y'all can have it, because I'm gone and I'll never

668
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: have another anxious moment of my life. Pandemic cranks up again.

669
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: I don't care. It ain't gonna it ain't gonna fact

670
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: me where I'm at. What's y'all the best I'm gonna

671
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: be coming back with Jesus, good luck to you. I'm out. Okay.

672
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: So so that that's where his hope could come from, right,

673
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: And then then sixteen he just kind of you know,

674
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: this is that part where he says, not only am

675
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: I going down, We're all going down. Okay. You know that.

676
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: I I it's not good if you ever had that

677
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: person in your group. You know that says I tell

678
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: you one thing. If the police come to me, I'm

679
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 1: telling on everybody. We're all going You know you don't

680
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: you don't want that person in your group. You know

681
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: what I mean, if you're run it, if you run

682
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: as a as a. My granddaddy referred to it as

683
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: if you're running with the dogs. You don't need that

684
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: guy with you. You know you want some says I'll never

685
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: rit everybody out, And if I go down, y'all be good.

686
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: Right here, Joe's he's had it. He says, will it

687
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: go down to the bars of shee Hold, which of

688
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: course is where they thought the dead was going? Shall

689
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: we descend together into the dust. I'm going down to death.

690
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: And he's looking at his friends and he says, let's

691
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: all just die together. My life, my hope, my vindication.

692
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: They are all gonna die with me. I know the

693
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: truth I know about your accusations, and death is almost here,

694
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: and everything, my life, my hope, my vindication, it's all

695
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: going to die with me. And because y'all have sat

696
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: here and lied about me, and you haven't helped me,

697
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: and you haven't been there for me. When I die,

698
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: your opportunity, your opportunity to make it right with me

699
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: is gonna be gone. And we're all gonna die together.

700
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: And that's that's not the most uplifting. Now here's the

701
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: part that's really going to bother you. And I can't

702
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: imagine where Job was on this. When this seventeen ends,

703
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 1: it changes nothing as far as his friends. Bill Dad

704
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: is ready, and let me tell you something. He's got

705
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: his gone out. And if you think it's changed his

706
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: point of view, you are incorrect. Next week you're gonna

707
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: see Bill Dad go. It's good speech. God punishes the

708
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: wicked end of subject. And I mean, have you ever

709
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: been there? And you're just like, I just don't know

710
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: what else to say, man, I mean I can I

711
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: can't make you change your view of me. And so

712
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: you know what you do, You just go tell God

713
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: about it. And you know what we will see before

714
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: this is done. We will see not always on our time.

715
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: Raise your hand if you've ever wanted God to vindicate you,

716
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: and he seems to be taking this time. Yeah, but

717
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 1: if you truly are innocent, it will come. It will come.

718
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: And I think the thing that we need to do

719
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: more of, okay, And I don't know where other people

720
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: are associated to Joe, associated with Joe other than these three,

721
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: and then we get a fourth before we're done. I

722
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: don't know where anybody else is. We don't see it.

723
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: But I will say this, and I'll say this loud

724
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: and clear for somebody who's kind of going through some

725
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: of it now, even though it's starting to dissipate in

726
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: God's own timing. But there's nothing, and I don't know

727
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: why we're not willing to do it more. There's nothing

728
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: that clears things up. Quicker is if other people who

729
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: believe in your integrity will not just tell you I

730
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: like that. Hey man, I believe in you. I know that,

731
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: I know that what people are saying about you is

732
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: not true. That that's good, and that's appreciated. But you

733
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: know what's really helpful is if you'll go out there

734
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: and fight for that person publicly. Hey, this accusation against

735
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: my friend, I know them, that's not true. I'm not

736
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: gonna let you say that about them. I'm with them

737
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: all the time. You're not. I'm not gonna let that happen.

738
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you say that. And and and

739
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that we can do. Now.

740
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: I don't know where these people are, because surely there's

741
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: not the only people that know jobs found I know,

742
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: I know his family. His wife's mad, we know that

743
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: she's she's not up for it. It's children, you know,

744
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: are dead, so there's nothing they can do for their dad.

745
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: But surely there's and I know servants were killed and

746
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: people work for him, but surely there's somebody. I mean,

747
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: isn't there somebody that can that can step into all

748
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: this and go what is this garbage? I keep saying

749
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: about job? But but we'll see, uh as time goes on.

750
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: But I would, I know, I know what it's like

751
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: because look, I've all been I've been there to you.

752
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes you'll just you'll get it. There'll be something going

753
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: on and you're just like, I don't want to get

754
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: into that. And uh. And as I've said a thousand

755
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: times a thousand times, and this happens at the church,

756
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: happens within the church. Look, if you think something has happened,

757
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: go to the person and ask them what a concept.

758
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: So let's say somebody says, well, so and so did

759
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: so and so to so and so, And you're like,

760
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: wait mate, I know so and so so. You what

761
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: are you saying? Oh? Yeah, well you know they did this.

762
00:47:53,880 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: Isn't that really? Well? Call them, hey, can we talk?

763
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: Go to the person, you know, and say I heard

764
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: that you did this, this, and then is it that accord?

765
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: And then they, if they say yes, say okay, well

766
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: I have to disagree with the way you handle that.

767
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: I don't think you handled that right. Or if they

768
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: go that didn't happen, then you know. But I've noticed

769
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 1: sometimes we'll we'll go and I say this to people

770
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: off that we'll go and we'll pout for days about

771
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: something that you don't even know if it happened. And

772
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: I always say, have you asked them if that happened? Well,

773
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: I think that they, uh whatever, whatever? Have you asked them? No? Uh,

774
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: why don't you ask them? Have you ever thought somebody

775
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: was upset about something, you were certain of it, and

776
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: then maybe after a few weeks of you lamenting over it,

777
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: and then you're mad that they're mad about it, come

778
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: to find out they're not even mad about it. That

779
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: never happened. Yeah, I understand you're upset with me about

780
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: the other day. What are you talking about it? I

781
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: wasn't upset about that. Oh well, I thought you might

782
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: have thought I whatever. I never thought that. Oh wow,

783
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: I wish I could have three weeks back, you know,

784
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, it's crazy. I don't understand why

785
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: we just why don't we just get to the bottom

786
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: of it. Uh, that's I mean, scripture teaches us that

787
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of these things faster, get to

788
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: the bottom of it. And uh, and I don't know

789
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: why these these three are not leaving job and going

790
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: to get other witnesses. Here's how we see it. Do

791
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: anybody know anything? And you might have people go, I

792
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: just don't see it. I never saw Job do anything

793
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like job. But that doesn't happen. They

794
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: they've made their decision, they think they know and do

795
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: y'all realize. And they're passionate too. And I've taught this

796
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: so many times. Be clear, you can be passionately wrong.

797
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: Just because you're passionate about it doesn't mean it's right.

798
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 1: Just because you're certain of something doesn't mean it's true.

799
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: You better go find out, Especially if you're gonna run

800
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: somebody down, you better go find out. And it was

801
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: that that's the reason why you hear gossip being talked

802
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: about so poorly in scripture, because so many times people's

803
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: reputation is destroyed over something they didn't even do. And

804
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: we need to be real careful about that. Just because

805
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: it's juicy doesn't mean it's true. And you know, sometimes

806
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: they're partially true, but that's still important because partially still

807
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: isn't accurate. You know, go to the source and find

808
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: out and ask, and then if you messed up, apologize.

809
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: I've done that before. I remember I talked to a

810
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: brother one time, and I was certain because I listened

811
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: to what people said. I didn't think that sounded like them.

812
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: But I got caught up in the height and I

813
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 1: set him down for you know, come to Jesus lunch,

814
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: and I launched in my little monolog and he looked

815
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: back at me. He said that never happened. I'm like, wow,

816
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: that was such a good speech too. I'm just wrong.

817
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: And then I had to apologize for not coming to

818
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: him before I got my speech ready. I should have

819
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: just come to him directly, but i'd already gone that.

820
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 1: I said, well, I need to straighten him out about

821
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: that. That shouldn't have happen. Well, it didn't happen. Somebody had

822
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: lied about that, or they had the wrong person or something.

823
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: So get to the bottom of it. Don't do what

824
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: we have here. And when somebody says something, you know,

825
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: like job, who's earned I would think he's earned the

826
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt and they're not giving it to him.

827
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's what's hurting him the most. And

828
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: he knows that God knows the truth and he wants

829
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: God to vindicate him. So next week we will listen

830
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: to the very, very caring Bill Dad is. He will

831
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: take everything that Job has said and apply none of it.

832
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: Let's pray, Lord, thank you for today, thank you for

833
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: this time together, thank you for the lessons that we've learned.

834
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: And Lord, if we would just simply follow your instruction

835
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: on how to handle conflict even in the church, the

836
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: drama that we could reduce, and the misinformation and the

837
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: hurt so unnecessary, so many times when we simply could

838
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: just get to the bottom of the truth by talking

839
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: to everybody involved. Lord, thank you for this time together.

840
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: Thank You for the hope though we find in all this.

841
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: Even when Job gets you wrong, those beautiful moments when

842
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: he gets you right, and that's what will eventually carry

843
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: him through it. When he learns some big lessons about you,

844
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: and as much as he knows about you, he's still

845
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: going to be talked more. And may we learn it

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Speaker 1: with him. In your name, we pray Amen, thanks for

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Speaker 1: being with us,