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Speaker 1: The Book of Joe podcast is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey there, welcome.

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Speaker 1: Back to the latest episode of the Book of Joe podcast.

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Speaker 1: And this is a special trade deadline edition of the

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Speaker 1: Book of Joe podcast. And Joe, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you've been in a clubhouse at the trade deadline where

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Speaker 1: your team either made a big move or did nothing,

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Speaker 1: But it's that time of year when players almost expect

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Speaker 1: something good to happen if you're in the race.

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Speaker 3: True, it's amazing.

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Speaker 4: I was kind of like, I get it, But how

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Speaker 4: the players really react when you do acquire somebody, how

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Speaker 4: they get stirs them up.

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 4: It brings us other breath of fresh air into the room,

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Speaker 4: and the guys really get pumped up from that. Having

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Speaker 4: where some comes into the room that you think you've

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Speaker 4: already got there among the players, and if it takes

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Speaker 4: the spot of a veteran player, which doesn't really happen

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Speaker 4: often anymore. I'm just saying from my own personal experience,

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Speaker 4: when you bring somebody in that does not necessarily indicator

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Speaker 4: show an increase in the team's ability, that could actually

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Speaker 3: However, I don't think I've.

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Speaker 4: Really seen that more lately or recently, but it definitely

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Speaker 4: you don't get that done. It's kind of deflating to

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Speaker 1: Well, let's start with the headline, because I think this

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Speaker 1: and that is the New York Mets and their owner

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Speaker 1: Steve Cohen are playing by completely different economic rules. You

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Speaker 1: knew that going into the season when the Mets field

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Speaker 1: seven million dollars payroll way beyond anybody else. And here

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Speaker 1: paying to get out from under that broken team is

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Speaker 1: unpressed it in the game, of course, Schurzer went first

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Speaker 1: the Houston Astros. Joe including luxury tax money and he's

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Speaker 1: paying eighty eight point five million dollars to have Schurzer

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Speaker 1: back to James McCann, the New York Mets are paying

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Speaker 1: two hundred and ten million dollars in completely dead money.

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Speaker 2: Their dead money is equivalent to the fourteenth highest.

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Speaker 1: Actual payroll in baseball, so to get out from under mistakes.

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Speaker 1: And if you're a Mets fan, you should be happy

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Speaker 1: was able to get some really good prospects back. In

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Speaker 1: other words, if you're trading for a player with a

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Speaker 1: not going to give up really good prospects. Part of

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Speaker 1: the value is you're taking that financial burden away from

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Speaker 1: the team. But when the money is paid down, you're

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Speaker 1: going to have to pay more in prospect capital. And

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Speaker 1: that's what both the Rangers and the Astros did so

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Speaker 1: good on the Mets. I'm not knocking them because they're

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Speaker 1: So the ability of the Mets to pivot here Joe

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've been a part of say, for instance,

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Speaker 3: They did take on a lot of risk. I think.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's all about money, right, having that kind

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Speaker 4: to be really the game comes down to me to

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Speaker 4: And if you have those two things going on, you

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Speaker 4: just the fact of the camaradi compon camaraderie component. Bringing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Mets wound up paying Schuzer in Verlander one

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight million dollars. Wow, and that's getting

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Speaker 2: It costs seven million dollars per win. That's crazy have

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Speaker 1: In my book, that is the single biggest move that

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Speaker 1: There's no break in period here for Justin Verlander. He

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Speaker 2: When I trade for him.

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Speaker 1: Joe, He's four and one with a one point four

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Speaker 1: But I think Verlander was the perfect fit for the

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Speaker 1: Houston Astros. And you can make an argument, Joe there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're pretty impressive. To maintain that kind of level

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Speaker 3: I really have a lot of respect for all of that.

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Speaker 4: They're on their role right now pretty well. They're they're

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Speaker 4: Latter acquisitions also though by the Rangers too, But I

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Speaker 1: And people say, well, why didn't the Astros just resign

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Speaker 1: basically an average annual value of seventeen million.

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Speaker 4: Just to talk about being competitive only next year, that's

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Speaker 2: Hey, we got a lot to dive into here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what happened to the Dodgers, what's going on

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Book of Joe podcast, Trade deadline Recap,

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Speaker 1: and let's talk about the La Dodgers. Joe in the

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Speaker 2: There clearly is a need there to improve that rotation.

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Speaker 2: And what did they do well? They tried.

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Speaker 1: They got in on Verlander, swung a miss They talked

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Speaker 1: They did arrange a deal with EDWARDO. Rodriguez of the

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Speaker 1: He said, no, I have a family in Miami and

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Speaker 2: So that deal fell apart.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it got to that point, Joe,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say, stuck with Rodriguez.

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Speaker 4: Well, I just it comes down to how hard did

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Speaker 3: The Rodriguez thing.

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Speaker 4: That always amazes me that somebody doesn't want to go

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Speaker 4: Do believe that they believe that they're going to get

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Speaker 3: Here. He knows what he's got.

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Speaker 4: He evaluated everything, he did not want to give up,

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Speaker 4: So I just I would just stay with the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: Everything the Dodgers do is done through the prism of

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Speaker 1: And again we talked earlier about this. When you have

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Speaker 4: with the Dodgers, meaning that how hard did they try

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Speaker 4: regarding their positioning right now and the fact that I

440
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Speaker 4: still I do believe that they have Showy in mind

441
00:21:22,438 --> 00:21:25,998
Speaker 4: for next year too, And I don't think I don't

442
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Speaker 4: have any kind of inside information other than I think

443
00:21:29,238 --> 00:21:31,958
Speaker 4: that show now has been in the United States for

444
00:21:31,998 --> 00:21:34,438
Speaker 4: several years. I think it opens up more markets to him,

445
00:21:34,958 --> 00:21:37,558
Speaker 4: So I really believe that has something to do with

446
00:21:37,598 --> 00:21:40,798
Speaker 4: it too. Regarding the Yankees, they just don't move well.

447
00:21:40,958 --> 00:21:43,438
Speaker 4: I mean, I watched them a lot. A lot of

448
00:21:43,478 --> 00:21:46,118
Speaker 4: these guys just have lost a step a bit, and

449
00:21:46,158 --> 00:21:48,398
Speaker 4: that's really what it comes down to there. There are

450
00:21:48,398 --> 00:21:50,798
Speaker 4: better players, you know, are a little bit getting a

451
00:21:50,798 --> 00:21:53,478
Speaker 4: little bit longer in the tooth, and they're just not

452
00:21:53,638 --> 00:21:55,478
Speaker 4: moving as well as they had in the past. The

453
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Speaker 4: young guys, they got some nice young guys, but you know,

454
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Speaker 4: the vote, they still needs a lot of work to

455
00:22:00,198 --> 00:22:05,398
Speaker 4: do offensively, pitching wise. Herman, I mean, Herman Severino hit

456
00:22:05,518 --> 00:22:08,398
Speaker 4: or miss big time. So the Yankees to me, just

457
00:22:08,478 --> 00:22:11,358
Speaker 4: they don't move well, and I don't They're just they're

458
00:22:11,398 --> 00:22:13,638
Speaker 4: not going to hit. Their lineup is not a typical

459
00:22:13,718 --> 00:22:15,398
Speaker 4: Yankee lineup that we've seen in the past.

460
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Speaker 3: We know that. So I think that that's what they did.

461
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Speaker 4: I think Cash decided to, you know, just try to

462
00:22:21,198 --> 00:22:22,798
Speaker 4: play the middle as well as he can and his

463
00:22:22,918 --> 00:22:25,598
Speaker 4: plan for the future and not give up whatever other

464
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Speaker 4: prospects they have left right now. So I think they're

465
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Speaker 4: in the same boat as the Dodgers. How hard did

466
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Speaker 4: they try right now to change things? Last point with

467
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Speaker 4: Lorenz and I love Lorens and by the way, I

468
00:22:34,118 --> 00:22:36,718
Speaker 4: was with him for a bit, I thought and I

469
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Speaker 4: told him, I said, you were kind of like Mark

470
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Speaker 4: Fidrich and then he ends up going to Detroit. I

471
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Speaker 4: told him that last year. I love his sinker. I

472
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Speaker 4: love his sinker, and I love his change up. He

473
00:22:47,838 --> 00:22:52,838
Speaker 4: has a great change up. Competitive, great athlete, great athlete.

474
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Speaker 3: Good guy.

475
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Speaker 4: I'm curious that he get on a team that's winning.

476
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Speaker 4: I want to see what he does for me. He

477
00:22:58,718 --> 00:23:02,678
Speaker 4: gets too complicated sometimes. I like when he's primal pitches

478
00:23:02,718 --> 00:23:07,158
Speaker 4: primarily with fast all sinker for seam or two and

479
00:23:07,238 --> 00:23:11,678
Speaker 4: then and then the change up and then judiciously uses

480
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Speaker 4: break and ball.

481
00:23:12,838 --> 00:23:15,278
Speaker 3: But I think this guy could put He puts the

482
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Speaker 3: ball on the ground a lot.

483
00:23:16,038 --> 00:23:18,358
Speaker 4: If you put a good defense behind him, which the

484
00:23:18,358 --> 00:23:20,598
Speaker 4: Phillies you know, pretty much have right now on the

485
00:23:20,598 --> 00:23:23,798
Speaker 4: ground up the middle, especially this this could be beneficial.

486
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Speaker 3: Then, so heads up with him.

487
00:23:25,358 --> 00:23:28,038
Speaker 4: I might I like Michael a lot, and I'm really

488
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Speaker 4: pulling for a success.

489
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Speaker 3: But I thought that was great acquisition.

490
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Speaker 1: That's a great scouting report. By the way, Mark fidris Man,

491
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Speaker 1: he could put the ball on the ground as well

492
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Speaker 1: as any pitcher I've ever seen. So yeah, good pick

493
00:23:40,838 --> 00:23:42,678
Speaker 1: up by the Phillies. And you're right about the Yankees,

494
00:23:42,758 --> 00:23:45,038
Speaker 1: especially when they play. Some of these athletic teams, like

495
00:23:45,038 --> 00:23:47,998
Speaker 1: the Orioles and the Rays, they do look old and slow.

496
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Speaker 2: I was looking at this the other day, looking at

497
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Speaker 2: some of their older.

498
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Speaker 1: Hitters against velocity against ninety five and above, and these

499
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Speaker 1: guys are all thirty three and above. Stanton's hitting a

500
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Speaker 1: buck seventy eight against velocity. Rizzo is hitting two nine,

501
00:24:02,758 --> 00:24:07,038
Speaker 1: Lea Mayhew is hitting one three against ninety five plus.

502
00:24:07,718 --> 00:24:09,798
Speaker 1: And Josh Donaldson. I know he's out for the season,

503
00:24:09,838 --> 00:24:13,718
Speaker 1: but he was hitting forty eight against velocity you're talking about.

504
00:24:13,918 --> 00:24:16,878
Speaker 1: You know, the Yankees invested a lot in these older hitters,

505
00:24:17,278 --> 00:24:19,478
Speaker 1: and the game changed on them. The rules of the

506
00:24:19,518 --> 00:24:23,278
Speaker 1: game literally changed. And of course we all know velocity

507
00:24:23,358 --> 00:24:26,318
Speaker 1: goes up every year. Uh, and they're stuck with this team.

508
00:24:26,358 --> 00:24:29,598
Speaker 1: As you said, Joe, that not a great not great movers,

509
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Speaker 1: and that includes in the batter's box.

510
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Speaker 2: So I will give them this though.

511
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Speaker 1: I thought the perfect fit for the Yankees was a

512
00:24:36,038 --> 00:24:38,118
Speaker 1: move they had to make weeks ago, and that was

513
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Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger.

514
00:24:39,878 --> 00:24:40,838
Speaker 3: You know. Uh.

515
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Speaker 1: Bellinger was the kind of young athletic hitter from the

516
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Speaker 1: left side, especially the kind of bat the Yankees really needed.

517
00:24:47,518 --> 00:24:50,398
Speaker 1: But that window closed because of how well the Cubs

518
00:24:50,438 --> 00:24:54,038
Speaker 1: have played, so listen, I don't know if they could

519
00:24:54,038 --> 00:24:57,998
Speaker 1: have gotten Bellinger at that point the way the Rangers

520
00:24:57,998 --> 00:25:00,478
Speaker 1: stepped up jumped the market for earld As Chapman when

521
00:25:00,518 --> 00:25:02,398
Speaker 1: they knew they had an obvious need and a bullpen.

522
00:25:02,478 --> 00:25:03,798
Speaker 2: Why wait till the deadline.

523
00:25:04,678 --> 00:25:06,518
Speaker 1: But there wasn't a whole lot out there for the

524
00:25:06,558 --> 00:25:10,358
Speaker 1: Yankees bat wise, impact bat wise once Bellinger came off

525
00:25:10,398 --> 00:25:14,798
Speaker 1: the market. And speaking of the Cubbies, Joe, the Cubbies

526
00:25:15,198 --> 00:25:18,718
Speaker 1: on July seventeenth had a six percent chance of going

527
00:25:18,718 --> 00:25:20,878
Speaker 1: to the postseason. They were in a lot of trouble

528
00:25:20,958 --> 00:25:23,598
Speaker 1: right well, they've been red hot since then. They are

529
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Speaker 1: only four games back. Now, they are in this thing

530
00:25:27,278 --> 00:25:30,478
Speaker 1: now and they're playing with a lot of belief. Picked

531
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Speaker 1: up Jamer Candelario, who was one of the best bats

532
00:25:34,198 --> 00:25:36,478
Speaker 1: on the market, and they go out and score twenty

533
00:25:36,558 --> 00:25:38,398
Speaker 1: runs on thirty one hits in their first game on

534
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Speaker 1: the other side of the deadline. So I don't know,

535
00:25:41,038 --> 00:25:43,238
Speaker 1: Rossi's got a little bit of a dangerous team right now.

536
00:25:43,358 --> 00:25:45,558
Speaker 1: Joe reminds me of some of your Cubs teams that

537
00:25:45,598 --> 00:25:47,438
Speaker 1: start playing better as the year goes on.

538
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Speaker 3: Agreed.

539
00:25:48,158 --> 00:25:51,558
Speaker 4: That's what I've been seeing too. Candelario is a nice

540
00:25:51,638 --> 00:25:52,038
Speaker 4: kid too.

541
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Speaker 1: Man.

542
00:25:52,558 --> 00:25:55,398
Speaker 4: People don't know him. He's wonderful. He's got a great

543
00:25:55,398 --> 00:25:58,358
Speaker 4: way about him. When we first had him, when there

544
00:25:58,358 --> 00:26:00,198
Speaker 4: with the Cubbies, he was just coming up and he

545
00:26:00,278 --> 00:26:03,078
Speaker 4: showed great signs of being a good player, and then

546
00:26:03,078 --> 00:26:03,478
Speaker 4: he went away.

547
00:26:03,518 --> 00:26:05,198
Speaker 3: Know he's come back, so I'm happy for him. He's

548
00:26:05,238 --> 00:26:05,758
Speaker 3: good people.

549
00:26:06,758 --> 00:26:10,118
Speaker 4: I was watching Alzala the other day on TV. I

550
00:26:10,198 --> 00:26:12,638
Speaker 4: don't know who he's been working with, but the comebacker

551
00:26:12,958 --> 00:26:16,518
Speaker 4: on the inside edge the left handed hitters as spectacular

552
00:26:16,598 --> 00:26:19,198
Speaker 4: right now. Because I was curious why he was in

553
00:26:19,238 --> 00:26:20,478
Speaker 4: the at the end of the game, and then I

554
00:26:20,518 --> 00:26:21,278
Speaker 4: saw one pitch.

555
00:26:21,398 --> 00:26:21,758
Speaker 3: Is that there?

556
00:26:21,798 --> 00:26:24,118
Speaker 4: It is because right now I can get out both

557
00:26:24,198 --> 00:26:26,598
Speaker 4: Rhydy's and lefty. So they got this going on. They

558
00:26:26,638 --> 00:26:29,478
Speaker 4: got some nice starters, but they have energy. I see

559
00:26:29,598 --> 00:26:33,558
Speaker 4: energy on the field. I think Bellinger's renaissance really feeds

560
00:26:33,678 --> 00:26:36,198
Speaker 4: a lot of that energy on the field. I love

561
00:26:36,278 --> 00:26:36,878
Speaker 4: Nico Horner.

562
00:26:36,918 --> 00:26:39,798
Speaker 3: I think Nico is a winner. I like him a lot.

563
00:26:39,878 --> 00:26:42,558
Speaker 4: I think he's a really good baseball player. And I

564
00:26:42,638 --> 00:26:44,758
Speaker 4: like Gulbs behind the play too. I think there's another

565
00:26:44,798 --> 00:26:46,518
Speaker 4: guy they got some They have a nice mix. They

566
00:26:46,558 --> 00:26:48,518
Speaker 4: got some young guys, they got the right older guys

567
00:26:48,558 --> 00:26:51,558
Speaker 4: almost like you said, like we did in twenty sixteen.

568
00:26:51,598 --> 00:26:53,958
Speaker 4: So there's a lot to like there right now. But

569
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Speaker 4: I do see energy when they play. I think they

570
00:26:56,798 --> 00:26:59,838
Speaker 4: have some baseball players out there. And like I said,

571
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Speaker 4: al Zalay, I didn't know that this is I was curious, but.

572
00:27:04,038 --> 00:27:04,718
Speaker 3: Just check that out.

573
00:27:04,838 --> 00:27:07,998
Speaker 4: Check out that two seam back front door against left

574
00:27:07,998 --> 00:27:10,758
Speaker 4: ten hitters. It's a lot like Kyle Hendricks with a

575
00:27:10,758 --> 00:27:12,358
Speaker 4: lot more of velocie. I was wondering if Kyle had

576
00:27:12,358 --> 00:27:12,998
Speaker 4: worked with him at all.

577
00:27:13,718 --> 00:27:14,478
Speaker 2: That's a good call.

578
00:27:14,478 --> 00:27:16,478
Speaker 1: They've been waiting on him for a while, always liked

579
00:27:16,478 --> 00:27:18,678
Speaker 1: his arm, just trying to find the right spot and

580
00:27:19,038 --> 00:27:19,838
Speaker 1: how to use him.

581
00:27:19,838 --> 00:27:22,678
Speaker 2: But it looks like they have found the right spot.

582
00:27:22,798 --> 00:27:25,198
Speaker 1: Now give you your thought now on that division here,

583
00:27:25,318 --> 00:27:27,478
Speaker 1: because the Cubs are definitely in play.

584
00:27:28,278 --> 00:27:30,118
Speaker 2: The Brewers did what the Brewers do.

585
00:27:30,438 --> 00:27:32,838
Speaker 1: You know, they tinkered around the edges of the roster,

586
00:27:32,958 --> 00:27:35,478
Speaker 1: which is not a complaint. I mean, they just find

587
00:27:35,478 --> 00:27:37,318
Speaker 1: a way to bring the right pieces. I love bringing

588
00:27:37,358 --> 00:27:39,918
Speaker 1: in Carlos Santana. They brought in Mark Canna, who's going

589
00:27:39,958 --> 00:27:43,318
Speaker 1: to help in the outfield, some veteran presence. They're getting

590
00:27:43,318 --> 00:27:46,758
Speaker 1: Brandon Woodriff back in that rotation, so you know, we've

591
00:27:46,758 --> 00:27:49,358
Speaker 1: seen this before the Cubs. The Brewers can be a

592
00:27:49,438 --> 00:27:53,478
Speaker 1: scary postseason opponent when they throw Burns, Woodriff and Peralta

593
00:27:53,518 --> 00:27:53,838
Speaker 1: at you.

594
00:27:54,118 --> 00:27:55,918
Speaker 2: And we know how good the back of their bullpen is.

595
00:27:56,158 --> 00:27:57,798
Speaker 1: So they love to get you in a three to

596
00:27:57,798 --> 00:27:59,718
Speaker 1: two ball game and chances are they're gonna win that

597
00:27:59,798 --> 00:28:02,678
Speaker 1: kind of game. And then the Reds, who you know,

598
00:28:02,718 --> 00:28:07,078
Speaker 1: they've been coming on like gangsters, but didn't add anything really,

599
00:28:07,478 --> 00:28:09,758
Speaker 1: Sam Mulla or Lever they added, but for a team

600
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Speaker 1: with a lot of young starting pitching, they're going to

601
00:28:13,078 --> 00:28:15,758
Speaker 1: ride with what they have now. I understand Hunter Green,

602
00:28:15,958 --> 00:28:18,878
Speaker 1: Nicolodolo both coming off the i L, so those are

603
00:28:19,198 --> 00:28:22,918
Speaker 1: sort of like additions through the trade market but coming

604
00:28:22,958 --> 00:28:25,798
Speaker 1: off the IEL. But you know, I think the door

605
00:28:25,838 --> 00:28:28,038
Speaker 1: is left open in that division and I think it's

606
00:28:28,078 --> 00:28:29,678
Speaker 1: now a three team race with the Cubs.

607
00:28:30,238 --> 00:28:32,478
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, yeah, you're right.

608
00:28:33,038 --> 00:28:35,558
Speaker 4: Uh just when you talk about the Cubs, the one

609
00:28:35,558 --> 00:28:37,238
Speaker 4: thing that just comes to my head, it's hard to

610
00:28:37,278 --> 00:28:40,438
Speaker 4: maintain that level of success. But they went like almost

611
00:28:40,478 --> 00:28:42,398
Speaker 4: ten in a row, something like that recently went from

612
00:28:42,438 --> 00:28:44,878
Speaker 4: way under two a little bit over five hundred. That's

613
00:28:44,918 --> 00:28:47,838
Speaker 4: the one part that if there's if they're able to

614
00:28:48,198 --> 00:28:50,398
Speaker 4: and you'll find that out over the next two weeks,

615
00:28:50,398 --> 00:28:52,878
Speaker 4: if they're able to maintain that level, then they got

616
00:28:52,918 --> 00:28:54,638
Speaker 4: a legitimate chance or shot.

617
00:28:54,758 --> 00:28:55,318
Speaker 3: It's just hard.

618
00:28:55,358 --> 00:28:57,398
Speaker 4: It's hard to come back from that far. There's a

619
00:28:57,438 --> 00:29:01,478
Speaker 4: lot of again expenditure of energy to get there, and

620
00:29:01,518 --> 00:29:04,598
Speaker 4: then you get there and we'll see so well, yes,

621
00:29:04,638 --> 00:29:06,398
Speaker 4: I love what they're doing, but it's hard.

622
00:29:06,158 --> 00:29:08,118
Speaker 3: To maintain that level of victory.

623
00:29:08,478 --> 00:29:10,038
Speaker 4: The reds to me a little bit hot and cold,

624
00:29:10,958 --> 00:29:12,838
Speaker 4: and again that could be the youthful component of that.

625
00:29:13,278 --> 00:29:14,878
Speaker 3: You're going to get to September.

626
00:29:14,398 --> 00:29:16,358
Speaker 4: With some of these young guys actually going to get

627
00:29:16,518 --> 00:29:18,318
Speaker 4: a little bit fatigued. They're not used to that that

628
00:29:18,438 --> 00:29:20,838
Speaker 4: kind of a grind all year, So we'll see how

629
00:29:20,838 --> 00:29:23,878
Speaker 4: that plays out. But again, athletically and the youth should

630
00:29:23,878 --> 00:29:26,798
Speaker 4: be on their side. But then again it could break

631
00:29:26,798 --> 00:29:28,878
Speaker 4: down at some point. But I do love them, which

632
00:29:28,878 --> 00:29:30,398
Speaker 4: fringes me to the Bruers. The Brewer is to me,

633
00:29:30,478 --> 00:29:32,358
Speaker 4: like you just said, with those pitching, that pitching they've

634
00:29:32,358 --> 00:29:35,958
Speaker 4: had and they're kind of a steady methods. I think

635
00:29:35,958 --> 00:29:38,838
Speaker 4: they're going to continue that. You know, Craig in the

636
00:29:38,918 --> 00:29:41,038
Speaker 4: Dugout does a nice job with all that, and of

637
00:29:41,038 --> 00:29:44,798
Speaker 4: course David doesn't, so both Davids do. But I think

638
00:29:44,838 --> 00:29:48,198
Speaker 4: there's a consistency of steadiness about the Brewers. They're kind

639
00:29:48,198 --> 00:29:50,958
Speaker 4: of a metronome, so and you could be that way

640
00:29:50,998 --> 00:29:52,478
Speaker 4: when you when you pitch like they do. And I

641
00:29:52,598 --> 00:29:56,518
Speaker 4: like the acquisitions they just made two So if I

642
00:29:56,518 --> 00:29:58,358
Speaker 4: had a rank them, I just still say the Brewers

643
00:29:58,358 --> 00:30:01,238
Speaker 4: have an advantage just based on history, and they're pitching

644
00:30:01,798 --> 00:30:04,638
Speaker 4: cubs a lot of energy to get and now it's

645
00:30:04,678 --> 00:30:05,518
Speaker 4: going to be hard to stay there.

646
00:30:05,558 --> 00:30:06,438
Speaker 3: And if they show you they.

647
00:30:06,358 --> 00:30:09,118
Speaker 4: Can't over the next two weeks, heads up, and they

648
00:30:09,358 --> 00:30:13,118
Speaker 4: and the Reds just that they learning and understanding how

649
00:30:13,158 --> 00:30:15,398
Speaker 4: to win, how to win late in the season, and

650
00:30:15,398 --> 00:30:17,598
Speaker 4: how to when you get to the playoffs.

651
00:30:17,158 --> 00:30:17,918
Speaker 3: For the first time.

652
00:30:18,478 --> 00:30:20,838
Speaker 4: That's there's something to that, and so that's what they're

653
00:30:20,878 --> 00:30:24,078
Speaker 4: experiencing right now. So when I look at those three teams,

654
00:30:24,078 --> 00:30:24,878
Speaker 4: that's how I see it.

655
00:30:25,278 --> 00:30:27,718
Speaker 1: Well, it's a good point you make learning how to win.

656
00:30:27,878 --> 00:30:29,598
Speaker 1: That reminds me of the next team we want to

657
00:30:29,638 --> 00:30:33,038
Speaker 1: talk about. That's the Baltimore Orioles, and I've got to

658
00:30:33,038 --> 00:30:36,238
Speaker 1: get your take on a couple of your former teams.

659
00:30:36,438 --> 00:30:38,518
Speaker 2: The Rays and the Angels.

660
00:30:38,718 --> 00:30:51,798
Speaker 1: Sure we do that right after this. I like that

661
00:30:51,838 --> 00:30:54,118
Speaker 1: phrase you had, Joe learning how to win. I really

662
00:30:54,118 --> 00:30:56,638
Speaker 1: do believe there is something to that. You know, the

663
00:30:56,718 --> 00:30:58,678
Speaker 1: environment when you get down the stretch.

664
00:30:58,358 --> 00:30:59,318
Speaker 2: It's a little bit different.

665
00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:01,958
Speaker 1: Baseball becomes more of a sprint than a marathon, more

666
00:31:02,078 --> 00:31:05,398
Speaker 1: urgency and games. How you respond to that. I always

667
00:31:05,438 --> 00:31:07,518
Speaker 1: like teams that have been through. That doesn't mean you

668
00:31:07,518 --> 00:31:10,238
Speaker 1: can't win when you're young. Your team in twenty sixteen

669
00:31:10,398 --> 00:31:12,958
Speaker 1: was very young, and they handled it really well down

670
00:31:12,998 --> 00:31:13,438
Speaker 1: the stretch.

671
00:31:15,238 --> 00:31:16,718
Speaker 2: I look at the Baltimore Orioles.

672
00:31:17,158 --> 00:31:19,638
Speaker 1: Your guy Brandon Hyder has done a great job running

673
00:31:19,638 --> 00:31:23,078
Speaker 1: that team, best team in the American League. I thought

674
00:31:23,118 --> 00:31:26,518
Speaker 1: all along they really needed a starting pitcher. They have

675
00:31:26,598 --> 00:31:28,998
Speaker 1: some really good young pitchers who are throwing more innings

676
00:31:28,998 --> 00:31:29,758
Speaker 1: than they ever have.

677
00:31:30,598 --> 00:31:33,798
Speaker 2: We know about their base of position players. It's terrific.

678
00:31:34,318 --> 00:31:36,558
Speaker 1: And they went out and got Jack Flaherty, and I

679
00:31:36,598 --> 00:31:38,838
Speaker 1: applaud the move. And this is where you have to

680
00:31:38,838 --> 00:31:41,918
Speaker 1: rely on your scouts, because Jack Flaherty, when he's right,

681
00:31:42,558 --> 00:31:45,438
Speaker 1: he's got front of the rotation stuff. He's pitched better lately,

682
00:31:45,958 --> 00:31:48,078
Speaker 1: but he has not been a swing and miss guy

683
00:31:48,398 --> 00:31:52,358
Speaker 1: era well above four. I like the addition, don't get

684
00:31:52,358 --> 00:31:54,758
Speaker 1: me wrong, but this is where you rely on your

685
00:31:54,798 --> 00:31:56,918
Speaker 1: scouts about bringing in a guy like Jack Flaherity.

686
00:31:57,158 --> 00:31:59,638
Speaker 2: Is he the answer for the Baltimore Orioles?

687
00:32:00,278 --> 00:32:02,518
Speaker 3: Listen when he was with the Cardinals.

688
00:32:02,518 --> 00:32:04,238
Speaker 4: When I first saw him, I said, man, and this

689
00:32:04,318 --> 00:32:06,398
Speaker 4: guy is going to be like he's going to be

690
00:32:06,438 --> 00:32:09,838
Speaker 4: the bomb for years to come. He's so athletic and

691
00:32:09,878 --> 00:32:13,158
Speaker 4: that's still when pictures were hitting he hit, he'd line

692
00:32:13,238 --> 00:32:15,558
Speaker 4: drive the left field, get on first base and steal second.

693
00:32:16,198 --> 00:32:18,998
Speaker 3: That good of an athlete. I thought the delivery was sound.

694
00:32:19,038 --> 00:32:20,318
Speaker 3: This stuff was outstanding.

695
00:32:20,838 --> 00:32:23,038
Speaker 4: He didn't get tired, all the things you're looking for

696
00:32:23,078 --> 00:32:25,878
Speaker 4: in a young started, great body. And then like when

697
00:32:25,878 --> 00:32:28,598
Speaker 4: I saw him more recently, I didn't like the ARMStrokes.

698
00:32:28,638 --> 00:32:31,838
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened there. Something's different than when

699
00:32:31,838 --> 00:32:33,678
Speaker 4: I had seen him in the past. Is he I'm

700
00:32:33,718 --> 00:32:35,998
Speaker 4: not sure. Has he been injured? He did he hurt

701
00:32:35,998 --> 00:32:36,638
Speaker 4: his arm at all?

702
00:32:36,878 --> 00:32:39,558
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's had some injuries, nothing major, but he's had

703
00:32:39,558 --> 00:32:42,478
Speaker 1: some shoulder issues. He's worked through those there have been

704
00:32:42,638 --> 00:32:46,518
Speaker 1: times where we've seen flashes of that flirty you talked

705
00:32:46,558 --> 00:32:49,878
Speaker 1: about in those first couple of years, But for the

706
00:32:49,958 --> 00:32:52,878
Speaker 1: most part, no, he's not been this quite the same picture.

707
00:32:52,878 --> 00:32:54,398
Speaker 1: And I'm with you, by the way, when he got

708
00:32:54,398 --> 00:32:56,478
Speaker 1: to the big leagues, man, he just looked like a repeater,

709
00:32:56,758 --> 00:32:58,398
Speaker 1: you know, a guy that you can count on each

710
00:32:58,478 --> 00:33:00,278
Speaker 1: year to make your thirty stars throw one hundred and

711
00:33:00,318 --> 00:33:04,558
Speaker 1: eighty innings with a three something era, And he just

712
00:33:04,638 --> 00:33:05,478
Speaker 1: hasn't been back there.

713
00:33:05,478 --> 00:33:08,038
Speaker 2: I just I agree with you. The armstroke just doesn't

714
00:33:08,078 --> 00:33:08,558
Speaker 2: look the same.

715
00:33:09,038 --> 00:33:09,958
Speaker 3: Something's off.

716
00:33:10,998 --> 00:33:13,318
Speaker 4: I watch him, and then he'll misspy a lot, and

717
00:33:13,358 --> 00:33:16,438
Speaker 4: then he'll come back just because he's so athletic. He'll

718
00:33:16,478 --> 00:33:19,918
Speaker 4: get through some tough situations just based on athleticism, and

719
00:33:19,958 --> 00:33:22,638
Speaker 4: he's got good stuff. But it doesn't have that purity

720
00:33:22,678 --> 00:33:24,998
Speaker 4: that I saw when I first saw him with the

721
00:33:25,038 --> 00:33:26,998
Speaker 4: Cardinals several years ago. So I don't know what's been going.

722
00:33:27,038 --> 00:33:28,918
Speaker 4: I didn't watch him closely enough. And like you said,

723
00:33:29,318 --> 00:33:32,558
Speaker 4: scouts on the road they did it with Hicks when

724
00:33:32,558 --> 00:33:35,558
Speaker 4: they brought him to Baltimore from the Yankees. They must

725
00:33:35,558 --> 00:33:38,518
Speaker 4: have seen something, and apparently they probably saw something with

726
00:33:38,558 --> 00:33:41,718
Speaker 4: fire because young, yet he's got again one of the

727
00:33:41,718 --> 00:33:43,478
Speaker 4: better athletes on the mound you're going to see in

728
00:33:43,518 --> 00:33:46,398
Speaker 4: the game, kind of like Muskrove with the San Diego

729
00:33:46,518 --> 00:33:49,318
Speaker 4: they're kind of, you know, built like the same, and

730
00:33:49,318 --> 00:33:52,478
Speaker 4: they're very athletic, and they got good stuff. But I'm

731
00:33:52,558 --> 00:33:54,838
Speaker 4: just curious. I mean, I'm gonna watch when he pitches up.

732
00:33:55,078 --> 00:33:57,478
Speaker 4: I'll check out their games on the two because this

733
00:33:57,518 --> 00:33:59,558
Speaker 4: guy can be a difference makeare if they saw something,

734
00:33:59,598 --> 00:34:01,398
Speaker 4: then they can fix it and creat a little bit

735
00:34:01,438 --> 00:34:04,678
Speaker 4: more fluidity about his delivery and get his command back.

736
00:34:04,918 --> 00:34:06,798
Speaker 4: Heads up, because this stuff is that good.

737
00:34:07,038 --> 00:34:09,198
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about the Rays because they also got

738
00:34:09,238 --> 00:34:13,158
Speaker 1: a starting pitcher. Aaron Savali of the of the Guardians. Listen,

739
00:34:13,158 --> 00:34:15,398
Speaker 1: it's a head scratcher. If you're a Guardians fan, you're

740
00:34:15,398 --> 00:34:18,238
Speaker 1: trading one of your best, healthiest starting pitchers when you're

741
00:34:18,318 --> 00:34:20,998
Speaker 1: right smack dab in the middle of a race for

742
00:34:21,078 --> 00:34:24,878
Speaker 1: a prospect first baseman who's thought of as a good hitter.

743
00:34:25,078 --> 00:34:27,718
Speaker 1: And listen, we know the Guardians need hitting, but these

744
00:34:27,758 --> 00:34:30,958
Speaker 1: windows to get into the postseason are precious. Every single

745
00:34:30,998 --> 00:34:34,078
Speaker 1: one of them head scratcher to me. But okay, that's

746
00:34:34,078 --> 00:34:36,118
Speaker 1: what the Guardians do. We've seen them in the past

747
00:34:36,198 --> 00:34:39,958
Speaker 1: trade starting pitchers during the season, whether it's Bauer, Clevenger, Klueber,

748
00:34:40,198 --> 00:34:43,758
Speaker 1: on and on they go. But kudos to the Rays

749
00:34:43,958 --> 00:34:46,678
Speaker 1: because we all know about the injuries, the Springs and

750
00:34:46,798 --> 00:34:52,238
Speaker 1: Rasmusen there. Now they have a really legit five man rotation. Joe,

751
00:34:52,278 --> 00:34:55,718
Speaker 1: no openers, guys who can give you length. Lastno McClanahan.

752
00:34:57,038 --> 00:35:00,478
Speaker 1: Adding Sivali to this mix. I really like the pick up.

753
00:35:00,558 --> 00:35:03,478
Speaker 1: It didn't get a lot of attention. He's not justin Verlander,

754
00:35:04,318 --> 00:35:07,598
Speaker 1: but he's got some of the best breaking ball metrics

755
00:35:07,598 --> 00:35:10,118
Speaker 1: in all of baseball. And my goodness, we all know

756
00:35:10,158 --> 00:35:12,998
Speaker 1: what the Rays can do with spin, So give me

757
00:35:13,038 --> 00:35:14,558
Speaker 1: your thoughts on where the Rays are at.

758
00:35:14,638 --> 00:35:16,478
Speaker 2: And adding Savali.

759
00:35:16,318 --> 00:35:19,158
Speaker 4: Well, I saw him briefly with the Indians. He is

760
00:35:19,198 --> 00:35:22,358
Speaker 4: a very good breaking ball pitcher. I don't even know

761
00:35:22,598 --> 00:35:24,918
Speaker 4: they Maybe they did some kind of study in the trap.

762
00:35:26,158 --> 00:35:29,318
Speaker 4: The combination of the field and the barometric pressure there.

763
00:35:29,518 --> 00:35:31,758
Speaker 4: It's going to make his breaking ball even better. He

764
00:35:31,798 --> 00:35:33,958
Speaker 4: has a great addition for them. But going back to

765
00:35:33,958 --> 00:35:36,238
Speaker 4: the Cleveland side, it just tells me they have somebody

766
00:35:36,238 --> 00:35:38,878
Speaker 4: to replace them, somebody they like. Again, when things like

767
00:35:38,958 --> 00:35:42,518
Speaker 4: this happen, there's got to be somebody in the wings

768
00:35:42,558 --> 00:35:45,158
Speaker 4: that they want to give opportunity to. And they know

769
00:35:45,198 --> 00:35:47,878
Speaker 4: Savali better than anybody knows Savally, so there's something with

770
00:35:47,918 --> 00:35:51,318
Speaker 4: that too, and I always consider that. But again from

771
00:35:51,358 --> 00:35:53,438
Speaker 4: the race perspective, you know, they did slip a little

772
00:35:53,478 --> 00:35:54,238
Speaker 4: bit more recently.

773
00:35:54,718 --> 00:35:57,078
Speaker 3: I watched them last night. They looked pretty healthy last night.

774
00:35:57,678 --> 00:36:00,358
Speaker 4: I guess Franco has not been the same or since

775
00:36:00,398 --> 00:36:03,118
Speaker 4: the little incident a couple months ago, and that has

776
00:36:03,158 --> 00:36:05,718
Speaker 4: had some kind of an impact on it. There's you know, internally,

777
00:36:06,078 --> 00:36:09,398
Speaker 4: they're not as groovy and internally as they had been.

778
00:36:09,438 --> 00:36:11,758
Speaker 4: I don't think a couple of months ago before this

779
00:36:11,998 --> 00:36:14,878
Speaker 4: all occurred. And I don't know, because again I'm not around,

780
00:36:14,878 --> 00:36:16,998
Speaker 4: and I don't I only watch some games on TV.

781
00:36:17,558 --> 00:36:20,558
Speaker 4: But I look at things like that, the kind of

782
00:36:20,598 --> 00:36:24,758
Speaker 4: immeasurables and how impactful they can be. So they have

783
00:36:25,118 --> 00:36:26,718
Speaker 4: a little bit crack in the armor that they weren't

784
00:36:26,718 --> 00:36:30,278
Speaker 4: showing early and here obviously, and Baltimore is not letting up.

785
00:36:30,758 --> 00:36:31,118
Speaker 3: Listen.

786
00:36:31,398 --> 00:36:35,118
Speaker 4: I love watching the Orioles. I do, and they got

787
00:36:35,158 --> 00:36:37,318
Speaker 4: you know, somewhat close last year and now this year

788
00:36:38,518 --> 00:36:39,398
Speaker 4: they've they've added.

789
00:36:39,918 --> 00:36:40,638
Speaker 3: You know, their young.

790
00:36:40,478 --> 00:36:43,158
Speaker 4: Players are really coming into their own a bit. There's

791
00:36:43,158 --> 00:36:46,398
Speaker 4: something about them. They got that look that other teams

792
00:36:46,478 --> 00:36:49,398
Speaker 4: don't have nightly, and that's why I'm digging on them

793
00:36:49,478 --> 00:36:51,798
Speaker 4: right now. But of course the Rays have the history,

794
00:36:51,838 --> 00:36:55,118
Speaker 4: they have the pedigree, but there's just something there and

795
00:36:55,198 --> 00:36:57,238
Speaker 4: I'm not one hundred percent sure if I know what

796
00:36:57,278 --> 00:36:59,278
Speaker 4: I'm talking about, but it's just an observation.

797
00:36:59,878 --> 00:36:59,958
Speaker 3: Now.

798
00:37:00,078 --> 00:37:02,438
Speaker 1: I actually would agree with you. I think they've struggled

799
00:37:02,438 --> 00:37:05,558
Speaker 1: offensively for the last month. The happiness factor is not

800
00:37:05,638 --> 00:37:09,718
Speaker 1: quite the same, and the Orioles definitely have that hit factor.

801
00:37:09,798 --> 00:37:13,638
Speaker 1: My goodness, these young players really came up together. They

802
00:37:13,758 --> 00:37:15,318
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys have been teammates for a

803
00:37:15,358 --> 00:37:19,238
Speaker 1: long time, and that includes Gunnar Henderson and Attlee Rushman,

804
00:37:19,358 --> 00:37:23,758
Speaker 1: and those two are two franchise players. When you start

805
00:37:23,838 --> 00:37:27,118
Speaker 1: with two franchise players in their early twenties up the

806
00:37:27,158 --> 00:37:29,238
Speaker 1: middle on the diamond catcher and short stuff. If you

807
00:37:29,238 --> 00:37:32,598
Speaker 1: even't seen Gunnar Henderson play, folks, I mean you're missing

808
00:37:32,638 --> 00:37:36,758
Speaker 1: something because this guy is just an absolute stud. Big

809
00:37:36,798 --> 00:37:41,558
Speaker 1: guy magine Corey Seeger with more speed and a better

810
00:37:41,598 --> 00:37:43,198
Speaker 1: throwing arm and more range.

811
00:37:43,278 --> 00:37:48,918
Speaker 2: I mean that's essentially who Gunnar Henderson is. So yeah,

812
00:37:49,118 --> 00:37:49,638
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

813
00:37:50,358 --> 00:37:52,598
Speaker 1: I'm not discounting I still think the Orioles are the

814
00:37:52,638 --> 00:37:54,558
Speaker 1: team to be, but I do like the move the

815
00:37:54,638 --> 00:37:55,438
Speaker 1: Rays have made.

816
00:37:55,878 --> 00:37:59,358
Speaker 2: Let's move on to the Angels and give them credit. Man.

817
00:37:59,758 --> 00:38:01,598
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a fan, you always want your

818
00:38:01,678 --> 00:38:04,198
Speaker 1: team to try as hard as it can to win,

819
00:38:04,518 --> 00:38:07,598
Speaker 1: especially when you have a chance, even a chance to

820
00:38:07,638 --> 00:38:08,558
Speaker 1: go to the postseason.

821
00:38:08,918 --> 00:38:11,198
Speaker 2: And the Angels are doing that. Man I felt so bad.

822
00:38:11,238 --> 00:38:14,078
Speaker 1: Taylor Ward goes down, gets hit by the face perryman

823
00:38:14,158 --> 00:38:17,038
Speaker 1: Izzi and the GM pivots immediately and gets Gritgick and

824
00:38:17,118 --> 00:38:20,078
Speaker 1: Krone original draft picks by the way by the Angels.

825
00:38:20,398 --> 00:38:22,318
Speaker 1: But man, I look around, and it's still gonna be

826
00:38:22,398 --> 00:38:26,278
Speaker 1: tough for them, because the Astros got better, the Orioles

827
00:38:26,278 --> 00:38:29,558
Speaker 1: got better, the Rays got better, the Blue Jays got better.

828
00:38:29,798 --> 00:38:33,118
Speaker 1: All the teams that are in front of the Angels

829
00:38:33,158 --> 00:38:36,638
Speaker 1: for a playoff spot have not made it any easier

830
00:38:37,118 --> 00:38:40,798
Speaker 1: for the Angels to start leapfrogging anybody for that last

831
00:38:40,798 --> 00:38:41,758
Speaker 1: wildcard spot.

832
00:38:41,958 --> 00:38:44,638
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I agree with you. I think they kind

833
00:38:44,638 --> 00:38:47,078
Speaker 4: of got the right guys. They got some veteran presence

834
00:38:47,078 --> 00:38:50,838
Speaker 4: in there, hard players. I'm a Crone dog fan. I

835
00:38:50,878 --> 00:38:54,078
Speaker 4: had his daddy back in the minor leagues. Chris cc

836
00:38:54,278 --> 00:38:56,998
Speaker 4: I had cc for years and CJ has the same

837
00:38:57,078 --> 00:39:00,038
Speaker 4: kind of attitude as his dad. I love that part

838
00:39:00,078 --> 00:39:02,598
Speaker 4: about it. And Ritchik I watched him from a distance

839
00:39:02,638 --> 00:39:05,958
Speaker 4: with Saint Louis. This guy can strike out four times

840
00:39:05,958 --> 00:39:07,438
Speaker 4: in a night and come out the next night and

841
00:39:07,438 --> 00:39:11,278
Speaker 4: whistle three balls to the right center. Good outfield. They're hard player.

842
00:39:11,278 --> 00:39:14,998
Speaker 4: They got hard players. Stock is hard player. The guys

843
00:39:14,998 --> 00:39:17,118
Speaker 4: they picked up are hard players, and I like that.

844
00:39:18,038 --> 00:39:20,118
Speaker 4: The biggest challenge they have there for Phil right now,

845
00:39:20,158 --> 00:39:21,718
Speaker 4: I think is just bringing them all together in a

846
00:39:21,758 --> 00:39:22,638
Speaker 4: short period of time.

847
00:39:22,998 --> 00:39:23,918
Speaker 3: I think what they're trying to do.

848
00:39:23,998 --> 00:39:27,358
Speaker 4: They've kind of emulated the success story of the Braves

849
00:39:27,358 --> 00:39:28,718
Speaker 4: from a couple of years ago, and they brought in

850
00:39:28,798 --> 00:39:32,518
Speaker 4: all those outfielders simultaneously at the trade deadline, and they

851
00:39:32,558 --> 00:39:38,318
Speaker 4: got some Solaire in Rosario Duval and I'm missing Jock Peterson.

852
00:39:38,878 --> 00:39:41,918
Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of similar to that. And they

853
00:39:41,958 --> 00:39:45,798
Speaker 4: got to pitch, and they've been pitching a little bit better. Defensively,

854
00:39:45,838 --> 00:39:49,238
Speaker 4: of course, we got to catch the ball, but the attitude.

855
00:39:48,798 --> 00:39:50,878
Speaker 3: On the field is dramatically improved with these guys.

856
00:39:50,918 --> 00:39:54,918
Speaker 4: They got real guys, they got grown ups with good makeup,

857
00:39:55,118 --> 00:39:57,438
Speaker 4: so they're gonna be it's gonna be curious to watch

858
00:39:57,478 --> 00:40:00,558
Speaker 4: this whole thing unfold. But again, to me, the most

859
00:40:00,598 --> 00:40:03,038
Speaker 4: difficult thing to do right now is you got good players,

860
00:40:03,078 --> 00:40:06,158
Speaker 4: is to bring them together and not just be mercenaries

861
00:40:06,198 --> 00:40:08,598
Speaker 4: and be Angels and see if that results in a

862
00:40:08,878 --> 00:40:09,558
Speaker 4: winning season.

863
00:40:09,798 --> 00:40:12,038
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I would agree with you they got the

864
00:40:12,158 --> 00:40:14,918
Speaker 1: right players to make that happen. When you think about

865
00:40:14,958 --> 00:40:18,198
Speaker 1: Mike Mustakas and a dwardo Escobar, these guys.

866
00:40:18,038 --> 00:40:19,758
Speaker 2: Are great teammates. You know that, Joe.

867
00:40:20,038 --> 00:40:21,918
Speaker 1: It's important when you drop guys in the middle of

868
00:40:21,918 --> 00:40:24,358
Speaker 1: the year, and as many as the Angels have, so

869
00:40:24,478 --> 00:40:28,278
Speaker 1: I think, at least in terms of character, I think

870
00:40:28,278 --> 00:40:30,918
Speaker 1: they have the right group to make that happen.

871
00:40:31,278 --> 00:40:31,678
Speaker 3: I agree.

872
00:40:31,758 --> 00:40:34,838
Speaker 4: I mean that's what I look at. I always talk

873
00:40:34,838 --> 00:40:36,438
Speaker 4: about having grown ups in the room. I mean, I

874
00:40:36,478 --> 00:40:38,678
Speaker 4: had to be my I'll be lamenting that during the.

875
00:40:38,638 --> 00:40:39,398
Speaker 3: Course of a season.

876
00:40:39,438 --> 00:40:41,838
Speaker 4: Sometimes they did more recently with the Angels because there

877
00:40:41,918 --> 00:40:44,038
Speaker 4: wasn't enough grown ups in the room. Guys that may

878
00:40:44,118 --> 00:40:47,078
Speaker 4: eventually be better players, but for right now, it just

879
00:40:47,198 --> 00:40:49,678
Speaker 4: wasn't working. So you need to get grown ups in

880
00:40:49,718 --> 00:40:52,198
Speaker 4: the room, and meaning guys like Mustakas.

881
00:40:52,198 --> 00:40:52,758
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

882
00:40:52,758 --> 00:40:55,358
Speaker 4: A guy that shows up every day, it's not afraid

883
00:40:55,398 --> 00:40:57,158
Speaker 4: to call somebody out conversation.

884
00:40:57,238 --> 00:40:58,438
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about.

885
00:40:58,438 --> 00:41:00,718
Speaker 4: Loudly in front of everybody, but go to the locker

886
00:41:00,758 --> 00:41:03,678
Speaker 4: and have the right kind of conversation with that player.

887
00:41:04,518 --> 00:41:08,078
Speaker 4: That's important. I just I've already mentioned this before. I

888
00:41:08,078 --> 00:41:10,598
Speaker 4: think Mustakas might be the most viable addition.

889
00:41:10,718 --> 00:41:11,238
Speaker 3: I see him.

890
00:41:11,478 --> 00:41:13,798
Speaker 4: It's ten him out almost two. When the Royals brought

891
00:41:13,838 --> 00:41:17,318
Speaker 4: in Ibanyas a couple of years ago, I see him

892
00:41:17,358 --> 00:41:22,038
Speaker 4: having that kind of personality, that kind of impact. Very

893
00:41:22,158 --> 00:41:25,598
Speaker 4: positive guy and a good player. I mean he's a

894
00:41:25,638 --> 00:41:27,638
Speaker 4: better player than people give him credit for. He's a

895
00:41:27,638 --> 00:41:30,878
Speaker 4: clutch player. So that's what they needed. They needed to

896
00:41:30,918 --> 00:41:32,038
Speaker 4: do that, and they've done that.

897
00:41:32,478 --> 00:41:34,278
Speaker 1: Just to give you an idea though, how tough the

898
00:41:34,358 --> 00:41:36,678
Speaker 1: schedule is coming up here. They're just finishing up a

899
00:41:36,758 --> 00:41:42,038
Speaker 1: series at Atlanta. Then they play the Mariners, the Giants,

900
00:41:42,718 --> 00:41:47,878
Speaker 1: the Astros, the Rangers, the Rays, and the Reds.

901
00:41:49,478 --> 00:41:52,838
Speaker 2: I mean that's tough. That's a tough stretch for the Angels.

902
00:41:53,598 --> 00:41:54,678
Speaker 3: Well, that's the whole thing.

903
00:41:54,718 --> 00:41:56,518
Speaker 4: I mean when I was looking at it, when they

904
00:41:56,518 --> 00:41:59,038
Speaker 4: were making all these moves, and I kept getting the

905
00:41:59,078 --> 00:42:01,798
Speaker 4: same question even on MLB network, like what do you think?

906
00:42:01,798 --> 00:42:02,438
Speaker 3: What should they do?

907
00:42:02,478 --> 00:42:05,038
Speaker 4: And I'm well, I understand why they're doing what they're doing,

908
00:42:05,118 --> 00:42:08,238
Speaker 4: but they is there a tougher schedule than there's right now?

909
00:42:08,998 --> 00:42:10,998
Speaker 4: You know it comes mathematically, I don't even know because

910
00:42:11,038 --> 00:42:13,198
Speaker 4: I saw I looked at there, I looked at the

911
00:42:13,238 --> 00:42:15,878
Speaker 4: last team. I said, Wow, that's quite a trip. But

912
00:42:17,198 --> 00:42:20,318
Speaker 4: I also believe this it's going to bring out the

913
00:42:20,358 --> 00:42:23,678
Speaker 4: best in that group. They've already played the Braves tough

914
00:42:23,718 --> 00:42:27,158
Speaker 4: the last two nights, uh two losses in Toronto, come

915
00:42:27,198 --> 00:42:28,198
Speaker 4: back and win a tough.

916
00:42:28,038 --> 00:42:29,278
Speaker 3: Game on the last day.

917
00:42:29,318 --> 00:42:31,998
Speaker 4: There's there's a there's a grid about these group of guys,

918
00:42:32,038 --> 00:42:33,158
Speaker 4: and I like these guys.

919
00:42:33,198 --> 00:42:35,198
Speaker 3: I do. I know a lot of them, and I.

920
00:42:35,118 --> 00:42:37,358
Speaker 4: Think they're They're good people, and they they're hard players

921
00:42:37,358 --> 00:42:37,878
Speaker 4: and they care.

922
00:42:37,998 --> 00:42:39,838
Speaker 3: So that's it.

923
00:42:39,878 --> 00:42:43,518
Speaker 4: They're they have an almost impossible schedule, but in order

924
00:42:43,558 --> 00:42:45,158
Speaker 4: to be the best, you got to beat the best,

925
00:42:45,398 --> 00:42:48,278
Speaker 4: and it might bring out the best in them because

926
00:42:48,318 --> 00:42:51,198
Speaker 4: on a nightly basis, there's there's no there's no letups.

927
00:42:51,358 --> 00:42:54,958
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Hey, we're gonna take one last quick break.

928
00:42:54,998 --> 00:42:55,518
Speaker 5: We come back.

929
00:42:55,518 --> 00:42:56,718
Speaker 2: We're gonna wrap things up.

930
00:42:56,878 --> 00:43:00,078
Speaker 1: And I want to ask Joe if the trade deadline

931
00:43:00,198 --> 00:43:04,238
Speaker 1: at all changed his idea of who is bound.

932
00:43:04,158 --> 00:43:05,158
Speaker 2: For the World Series.

933
00:43:05,838 --> 00:43:19,198
Speaker 5: We'll be right back. Welcome back to the.

934
00:43:19,158 --> 00:43:23,078
Speaker 1: Book of Joe podcast Wrapping Things Up, our Trade deadline special.

935
00:43:23,318 --> 00:43:26,558
Speaker 1: By the way, Joe, I mentioned the Guardians kind of

936
00:43:26,558 --> 00:43:29,198
Speaker 1: head scratcher moving a starting pitcher there in the race,

937
00:43:29,238 --> 00:43:33,478
Speaker 1: but it's head scratcher. The Minnesota Twins did absolutely nothing.

938
00:43:33,918 --> 00:43:37,038
Speaker 1: This is a team that got absolutely scorched at the

939
00:43:37,038 --> 00:43:41,358
Speaker 1: deadline last year in trades for Pablo Lopez and Tyler Maley.

940
00:43:41,478 --> 00:43:44,518
Speaker 1: Gave up a lot of prospects, got basically nothing in return.

941
00:43:44,918 --> 00:43:46,878
Speaker 1: I don't know whether they turned gun shy or not,

942
00:43:47,038 --> 00:43:50,318
Speaker 1: but they did nothing to an offense that has way

943
00:43:50,358 --> 00:43:53,758
Speaker 1: too much swing and miss. And I know that the opportunity,

944
00:43:53,798 --> 00:43:56,478
Speaker 1: the door is wide open to win a very weak division.

945
00:43:56,558 --> 00:43:58,678
Speaker 1: I get that it wasn't like they had to do anything,

946
00:43:59,438 --> 00:44:01,398
Speaker 1: but man, I wanted to see the Twins add a

947
00:44:01,478 --> 00:44:03,758
Speaker 1: right handed bats somebody who could put the ball in play,

948
00:44:04,118 --> 00:44:06,718
Speaker 1: like Tommy fam who wound up with the Arizona Diamondbacks

949
00:44:06,798 --> 00:44:08,038
Speaker 1: was a great fit.

950
00:44:09,158 --> 00:44:10,838
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a flip of a coin.

951
00:44:10,878 --> 00:44:13,198
Speaker 1: I don't know who you like in that division though, Joe,

952
00:44:13,278 --> 00:44:15,998
Speaker 1: you're talking about the Twins and the Guardians.

953
00:44:16,118 --> 00:44:17,998
Speaker 2: Neither one had a great deadline.

954
00:44:18,238 --> 00:44:20,118
Speaker 4: Well, at the beginning of the year, I really thought

955
00:44:20,158 --> 00:44:22,198
Speaker 4: Minnesota had a solid chance.

956
00:44:22,238 --> 00:44:25,278
Speaker 3: I've been surprised. They check up on them daily and

957
00:44:25,478 --> 00:44:26,998
Speaker 3: they keep spinning their wheels.

958
00:44:26,998 --> 00:44:29,238
Speaker 4: But I've been in part of groups that have spun

959
00:44:29,318 --> 00:44:31,238
Speaker 4: their wheels up until August, and all of a sudden,

960
00:44:31,238 --> 00:44:34,558
Speaker 4: you gain traction, Like you're saying, you think that they

961
00:44:34,598 --> 00:44:37,918
Speaker 4: may have added something, some kind of energy, something they

962
00:44:37,958 --> 00:44:41,718
Speaker 4: need as you're suggesting, with contact, but they still they

963
00:44:41,718 --> 00:44:44,038
Speaker 4: still have I think the best chance of winning that division.

964
00:44:45,318 --> 00:44:45,638
Speaker 3: I do.

965
00:44:46,398 --> 00:44:48,678
Speaker 4: Of course, that's not stepping out on a limb. They

966
00:44:48,718 --> 00:44:51,638
Speaker 4: have really good talent they need they need to catch

967
00:44:51,638 --> 00:44:55,518
Speaker 4: a wave at some point and start writing it. So again,

968
00:44:55,558 --> 00:44:57,998
Speaker 4: I don't know the internal makings of all that. And

969
00:44:58,038 --> 00:45:01,318
Speaker 4: when it comes down to more acquisitions, they I could

970
00:45:01,318 --> 00:45:03,758
Speaker 4: actually see meetings there where the guys are saying, yeah,

971
00:45:04,078 --> 00:45:05,878
Speaker 4: if we do something like this, they may get us

972
00:45:05,878 --> 00:45:08,598
Speaker 4: to the playoffs, but do we want to sacrifice the

973
00:45:08,638 --> 00:45:11,198
Speaker 4: future because I don't see us going deeply into the playoffs.

974
00:45:11,238 --> 00:45:15,358
Speaker 4: So there's all these different kinds of conversations that do occur.

975
00:45:15,758 --> 00:45:18,158
Speaker 4: They'd either motivate a group to do something or to

976
00:45:18,198 --> 00:45:20,878
Speaker 4: hold on to what they got. They should, they should

977
00:45:20,998 --> 00:45:23,838
Speaker 4: at some point gain some traction and do it. I

978
00:45:23,878 --> 00:45:26,758
Speaker 4: do like their pitching, and like you said offensively, just

979
00:45:27,238 --> 00:45:28,918
Speaker 4: I don't know. Philosophically, I don't know. I mean, this

980
00:45:28,998 --> 00:45:32,558
Speaker 4: is the strikeout world that we live in. I just

981
00:45:32,638 --> 00:45:34,478
Speaker 4: haven't watched them enough. I got to start putting them

982
00:45:34,518 --> 00:45:35,958
Speaker 4: on the MALB network a little bit more off for

983
00:45:36,638 --> 00:45:38,358
Speaker 4: the MLB package and start checking them out.

984
00:45:38,358 --> 00:45:40,998
Speaker 3: I just I look at them in the newspaper a lot.

985
00:45:41,238 --> 00:45:43,798
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as you know that the teams that

986
00:45:43,918 --> 00:45:46,238
Speaker 1: really put it together put together a charge. You want

987
00:45:46,238 --> 00:45:48,558
Speaker 1: to go back to seven with the Rockies, when something

988
00:45:48,598 --> 00:45:50,478
Speaker 1: like twenty one out of twenty two down the stretch.

989
00:45:50,838 --> 00:45:53,398
Speaker 2: We all remember those because they're outliers.

990
00:45:53,438 --> 00:45:57,398
Speaker 1: It's very difficult to play one way for one hundred

991
00:45:57,438 --> 00:45:59,598
Speaker 1: and ten games or one hundred and five games and

992
00:45:59,638 --> 00:46:01,758
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden be lights out right. And

993
00:46:01,798 --> 00:46:04,318
Speaker 1: I think about the San Diego Padres in that regard. Right,

994
00:46:04,598 --> 00:46:06,478
Speaker 1: you look at the roster their talent, and they made

995
00:46:06,478 --> 00:46:09,838
Speaker 1: some moves that improved the roster a little bit, but

996
00:46:09,878 --> 00:46:12,398
Speaker 1: there's still under five hundred in my book. To get

997
00:46:12,398 --> 00:46:14,838
Speaker 1: the eighty seven wins, which I think is the minimum

998
00:46:14,838 --> 00:46:17,198
Speaker 1: you're going to need to be a postseason team, they

999
00:46:17,198 --> 00:46:20,998
Speaker 1: need to finish thirty five and twenty. I see nothing

1000
00:46:21,278 --> 00:46:24,278
Speaker 1: about the way they've played the entire season to think

1001
00:46:24,318 --> 00:46:25,198
Speaker 1: that's possible.

1002
00:46:25,438 --> 00:46:29,358
Speaker 2: But I look at the roster on paper and I think.

1003
00:46:29,358 --> 00:46:34,358
Speaker 1: Why can't they play six fifty baseball? So they've confounded

1004
00:46:34,398 --> 00:46:37,358
Speaker 1: me all year, Joe. Sometimes you wait for a run

1005
00:46:37,438 --> 00:46:38,518
Speaker 1: and it never comes.

1006
00:46:38,798 --> 00:46:40,918
Speaker 4: Well, I watched them too, and I just, again, for

1007
00:46:40,918 --> 00:46:42,478
Speaker 4: a lack of a better terms, I just don't like

1008
00:46:42,518 --> 00:46:44,478
Speaker 4: the way they play a lot. I mean, there's just

1009
00:46:44,518 --> 00:46:49,598
Speaker 4: something kind of missing. There's a level of intensity that

1010
00:46:49,718 --> 00:46:52,078
Speaker 4: just doesn't seem to be present there. But the names

1011
00:46:52,078 --> 00:46:55,958
Speaker 4: are great, great names, really good names on the field

1012
00:46:56,438 --> 00:46:58,318
Speaker 4: and the mound and the bullpen, a lot of really

1013
00:46:58,358 --> 00:47:01,878
Speaker 4: good names. It just does not want to click. And

1014
00:47:02,118 --> 00:47:05,558
Speaker 4: you're right, it's hard to just turn that U Dimmer

1015
00:47:05,598 --> 00:47:07,278
Speaker 4: switch up and all of a sudden you're gonna be good.

1016
00:47:07,318 --> 00:47:07,478
Speaker 3: Now.

1017
00:47:07,758 --> 00:47:09,598
Speaker 4: The one situation I've been in and you're aware of.

1018
00:47:09,598 --> 00:47:12,318
Speaker 4: This was the greatest night in baseball because that month,

1019
00:47:12,958 --> 00:47:15,078
Speaker 4: the Rays we came from like eight or nine games

1020
00:47:15,118 --> 00:47:20,718
Speaker 4: back at the September first in order to edge out

1021
00:47:20,758 --> 00:47:22,638
Speaker 4: the Red Sox on the last day of the season.

1022
00:47:23,078 --> 00:47:26,758
Speaker 4: So you know, when teams choose to give up or whatever.

1023
00:47:26,838 --> 00:47:28,918
Speaker 4: I always in the back of my mind because listen,

1024
00:47:29,198 --> 00:47:31,358
Speaker 4: as a manager, I would start trying to map out

1025
00:47:31,398 --> 00:47:33,678
Speaker 4: different ways that we're gonna that we're gonna catch up,

1026
00:47:33,958 --> 00:47:37,318
Speaker 4: and like a game a week or two games maybe a.

1027
00:47:37,238 --> 00:47:37,918
Speaker 3: Week in August.

1028
00:47:37,918 --> 00:47:40,118
Speaker 4: I mean I had all this different or in September,

1029
00:47:40,158 --> 00:47:44,198
Speaker 4: different scenarios plotted out. So it's not impossible, but you

1030
00:47:44,318 --> 00:47:46,078
Speaker 4: have to play, obviously.

1031
00:47:45,758 --> 00:47:49,718
Speaker 3: At a very high level. Mentally. It really comes down

1032
00:47:49,718 --> 00:47:49,998
Speaker 3: to it.

1033
00:47:49,998 --> 00:47:54,118
Speaker 4: It's it's a there's it's a mental exercise because on

1034
00:47:54,158 --> 00:47:57,198
Speaker 4: a daily basis, brother, of course, you're gonna make mistakes,

1035
00:47:57,198 --> 00:47:58,518
Speaker 4: but if you do, you've got to be able to

1036
00:47:58,558 --> 00:48:00,798
Speaker 4: turn the page and move on very quickly to the

1037
00:48:00,838 --> 00:48:01,438
Speaker 4: next moment.

1038
00:48:01,878 --> 00:48:04,038
Speaker 3: That's part of it that helps you.

1039
00:48:03,998 --> 00:48:08,878
Speaker 4: You get through these stuff times or achieve the thirty

1040
00:48:08,878 --> 00:48:11,478
Speaker 4: five and twenty kind of a record that you're looking for.

1041
00:48:12,158 --> 00:48:15,518
Speaker 4: That stuff does happen, but it takes a mental effort,

1042
00:48:15,558 --> 00:48:17,318
Speaker 4: a giant mental effort more than anything.

1043
00:48:17,958 --> 00:48:19,878
Speaker 1: I like the way you put that you just can

1044
00:48:19,958 --> 00:48:22,438
Speaker 1: never give up. You really have to keep the pedal

1045
00:48:22,478 --> 00:48:24,558
Speaker 1: to the floor. And even then, as you did with

1046
00:48:25,358 --> 00:48:27,318
Speaker 1: the Rays that year, you need help. Yeah, I mean

1047
00:48:27,318 --> 00:48:30,718
Speaker 1: the Red Sox absolutely collapsed in September. They want something

1048
00:48:30,758 --> 00:48:33,718
Speaker 1: like five and twenty, So you need both ends to

1049
00:48:33,758 --> 00:48:37,118
Speaker 1: work in your favor, all right. I think that the

1050
00:48:37,678 --> 00:48:41,558
Speaker 1: deal for Justin Verlander makes the Houston Astros for me,

1051
00:48:42,398 --> 00:48:44,718
Speaker 1: the favorite to come out of the American League. I

1052
00:48:44,838 --> 00:48:46,758
Speaker 1: just have so much respect for the way that team

1053
00:48:46,798 --> 00:48:49,798
Speaker 1: plays postseason baseball. They put the ball in play, Been there,

1054
00:48:49,958 --> 00:48:53,998
Speaker 1: done that. That's a big factor for me. Starting too.

1055
00:48:54,038 --> 00:48:57,558
Speaker 1: Of Valdez and Verlander, however you want to arrange them is.

1056
00:48:58,118 --> 00:49:00,158
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if anybody's got better first

1057
00:49:00,158 --> 00:49:03,878
Speaker 1: too at the top of the rotation, especially if they

1058
00:49:03,998 --> 00:49:06,078
Speaker 1: can win the division and stay out of the wildcard

1059
00:49:06,158 --> 00:49:08,398
Speaker 1: round in the first round get their pitching lined up,

1060
00:49:08,918 --> 00:49:09,958
Speaker 1: that would be huge.

1061
00:49:10,798 --> 00:49:13,998
Speaker 2: So in the American League, I like the Houston Astros jaw.

1062
00:49:14,038 --> 00:49:15,878
Speaker 1: I think when we look back on it, I think

1063
00:49:15,918 --> 00:49:18,678
Speaker 1: the trade of Verlander will be the most impactful trade

1064
00:49:18,678 --> 00:49:19,958
Speaker 1: that happened at the deadline.

1065
00:49:20,118 --> 00:49:23,638
Speaker 4: It's hard to argue against that. However, I still like Texas.

1066
00:49:23,798 --> 00:49:26,078
Speaker 4: I think, you know, Boach really helps that situation a

1067
00:49:26,078 --> 00:49:28,678
Speaker 4: lot quite frankly, the bullpen, you know, with Chappie throwing

1068
00:49:28,718 --> 00:49:30,838
Speaker 4: the ball really well. And last night they used tim

1069
00:49:30,878 --> 00:49:33,718
Speaker 4: first and then Smith's second to finish a game. Last

1070
00:49:33,798 --> 00:49:35,518
Speaker 4: night it was a two to nothing win.

1071
00:49:35,758 --> 00:49:36,678
Speaker 3: Team on the field.

1072
00:49:37,238 --> 00:49:38,998
Speaker 4: You know, like I said, they're good, They're not great,

1073
00:49:39,358 --> 00:49:41,878
Speaker 4: but I you know, Andrew Heaney would eleven punchdowns the

1074
00:49:41,918 --> 00:49:43,918
Speaker 4: other night. I'll see Andrew to me is like one

1075
00:49:43,918 --> 00:49:46,958
Speaker 4: of the best kept secrets if this guy just trust

1076
00:49:47,078 --> 00:49:49,798
Speaker 4: and believes in his fastball, because his other stuff is

1077
00:49:49,838 --> 00:49:52,758
Speaker 4: penestri and his fastball is that good. But just pointing

1078
00:49:52,758 --> 00:49:56,038
Speaker 4: it out, they're still there, and that's going to be

1079
00:49:56,478 --> 00:50:01,598
Speaker 4: I think Houston's obviously biggest challenges them and of course

1080
00:50:01,638 --> 00:50:04,918
Speaker 4: the Braves in the National League. But I it's gonna

1081
00:50:04,958 --> 00:50:07,078
Speaker 4: be it's gonna be interesting to watch, especially that they're

1082
00:50:07,118 --> 00:50:10,678
Speaker 4: they're in the same division a couple hours apart actually

1083
00:50:10,718 --> 00:50:16,998
Speaker 4: physically geography geography speaking, So I got Houston and Texas

1084
00:50:17,078 --> 00:50:18,198
Speaker 4: making it very interesting.

1085
00:50:18,598 --> 00:50:20,878
Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, we should have mentioned that Texas.

1086
00:50:21,198 --> 00:50:24,398
Speaker 1: I think it's the most impactful under the radar deal

1087
00:50:24,918 --> 00:50:28,078
Speaker 1: was getting Austin Hedges to catch. I mean, a huge

1088
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Speaker 1: injury to Jonah him who's having an All Star season,

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Speaker 1: does a great job receiving, blocking, throwing and hedges. You're

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Speaker 1: not gonna get the offense, but my goodness, he's a

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Speaker 1: premier receiver behind the plate. And listen, you made the

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Speaker 1: investment in pitchers like Evaldi. We'll see if he's healthy.

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Speaker 1: Heine and now Scherzer. They're gonna love throwing the hedges.

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Speaker 1: So that that's a big one in my book. And

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Speaker 1: you know with Bochi it's that's important for him as well,

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Speaker 1: and the way he runs a game to have that

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Speaker 1: that really defensive minded catcher behind the plate.

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Speaker 2: So good on Chris Young for picking up.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a need to get a catcher,

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Speaker 1: and to me, they got one of the best defensive

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Speaker 1: catchers in the game.

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Speaker 3: Is Montgomery there too, and.

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Speaker 2: Montgomery there as well.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: I'm a fan. I'm a big fan. I like him

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Speaker 4: a lot. He's one of those under the radar guys.

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Speaker 3: You know with the Yankees, I liked what I saw there.

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Speaker 4: Came on good with the Cardinals, they're probably you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't even know if it's matching up against the

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Speaker 4: Astros Alvarez. Though Alvarez Pummel's left handed pitching, there's no

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Speaker 4: advantage to be had there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's cooled down with that.

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Speaker 4: But I like that move also, so they as a

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Speaker 4: pitching group, the Rangers are pretty tough to beat right now.

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Speaker 1: Montgomery is amazing to watch. I mean, he gets two

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00:51:44,038 --> 00:51:45,798
Speaker 1: strikes on you. He's not going to throw the ball

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Speaker 1: in the strike zone. He's going to bounce his breaking ball,

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Speaker 1: bounce his change up, and guys still swing at it.

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Speaker 1: There must be something about the way he throws. Guys

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Speaker 1: just don't track it well off him.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's deception. There's absolute deception there.

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Speaker 4: And it's kind of like a bigger version of like

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Speaker 4: Jeff's on or Tommy John I mean, where they actually

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Speaker 4: catch these and workouts, and they would never throw the

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Speaker 4: ball over the plate. Never the white part of the

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00:52:08,278 --> 00:52:11,438
Speaker 4: play was never utilized. It was always edges, an inch

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Speaker 4: or two off the edges and like you said, underneath,

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Speaker 4: because back then it wasn't about throwing the ball up

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Speaker 4: in his own hardly at all.

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Speaker 3: But I think there's a craftiness about this guy.

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Speaker 4: I don't know him, but I like the way pitches

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Speaker 4: and I think he could be tough in the latter

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Speaker 4: part of the year.

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Speaker 1: Well, Joe, this has been fun and I think it's

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Speaker 1: a fun time of year because this is the stage

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Speaker 1: of a season where urgency comes into play, right, It's

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Speaker 1: the sprint begins. Now you're on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline, you know, with the new rules with

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Speaker 1: the deadline, it's not like you're gonna sneak guys through waivers.

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Speaker 1: There's more deals coming the way the Astros got Verlander

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Speaker 1: a few years ago.

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Speaker 5: This is it.

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Speaker 1: This is the team that you have pretty much going forward,

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Speaker 1: other than guys who are released, and everybody knows that.

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00:52:53,678 --> 00:52:56,358
Speaker 1: Everybody's locked in with the personnel they have now and

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00:52:56,398 --> 00:52:59,638
Speaker 1: it's game on. It's as you said, you got to

1147
00:52:59,678 --> 00:53:01,758
Speaker 1: lock it in every game down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: Here, it's a fun time of year.

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Speaker 4: And this is where really good farm systems play big too, because,

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Speaker 4: like I said, with the Dodgers, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know this.

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Speaker 4: I don't know anything about their farm system except that

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Speaker 4: they're hiding somebody. They got somebody that they really dig

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00:53:13,478 --> 00:53:15,958
Speaker 4: on that they're going to eventually pop at us in

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Speaker 4: the near future.

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Speaker 3: I really believe that.

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Speaker 4: So it comes down to that kind of stuff too.

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Speaker 4: And also guys getting well. I think you mentioned that

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Speaker 4: about a couple of pictures coming back for a particular team,

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Speaker 4: But that's another part of it. That's another version of

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Speaker 4: an acquisition is when you've lost somebody for the majority

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Speaker 4: of the season, all of a sudden, he's going to

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Speaker 4: get well August September. That's kind of an acquisition too,

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00:53:36,958 --> 00:53:39,638
Speaker 4: and you got to be aware of that. So, yes,

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Speaker 4: you can't acquire anybody like traditionally, but I like i'd

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Speaker 4: like to this one. You really scour the farm systems

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Speaker 4: and what people are doing, like I said, the injury list,

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Speaker 4: who's coming back, because that could be a difference maker.

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Speaker 3: Two m.

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Speaker 2: You just made me think about Walker Bueller. Maybe he's

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Speaker 2: ahead of the schedule.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's going to be a weapon even if it's

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Speaker 1: out of the bullpen for that Dodger team.

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Speaker 2: Very interest.

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Speaker 3: They got something, they got something going on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how about you you got something for us to

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Speaker 1: take us out here In our trade deadline edition of

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Speaker 1: the Book of Joe podcast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this young philosophical young lady by name of Nick

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Speaker 4: Nicole Lyons loved it. Whatever it is that stirs your soul,

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Speaker 4: listen to that, everything else is just noise.

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Speaker 3: I think I lived by that, so I thought that

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Speaker 3: was really appropriate to me.

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Speaker 4: Whatever it is that stirs your soul, listen to that,

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00:54:27,438 --> 00:54:29,598
Speaker 4: everything else is just noise.

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Speaker 2: Love it very poetic. I love that. It's been fun, Joe.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 3: Thanks brother, appreciate it.

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