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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? This O g Rod Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Dogs Only Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Got a pleasure to sit by some fellow ogs, you

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Speaker 2: know myself. I got Joel right here, got Shelby Big

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Speaker 2: Q and then Jordan Hicks joining me today to talk

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Speaker 2: about what it means to be a Foxer.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? You know, we got to start our

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Speaker 1: episode off the right way. We gotta do some check ins.

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Speaker 3: Everybody doing good, man, I'm good, just uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: season getting rolled now. We're ready for the regular season,

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Speaker 3: so all that stuff in the past and uh, gonna

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Speaker 3: play some real football now.

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Speaker 4: Man. I'm doing straight, believe you know. My five year

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Speaker 4: olds just started kindergarten, so I'm mentally just like broken down.

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Speaker 1: But you know I'm doing good.

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Speaker 5: Though not saying, you know, football season rolling back in

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Speaker 5: especially now it's a love bullets trying to lock in.

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Speaker 5: My oldest daughter actually back in Seattle today starting her

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Speaker 5: first day of eighth grade and to me, my first

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Speaker 5: season away from her. So it's going to be you know,

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Speaker 5: we're dynamic and seeing how that works out.

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Speaker 6: But I mean alive and blessed. Yeah, man, I'm We're

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Speaker 6: good man. I'm settling in families here, kids are off

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Speaker 6: the school today. Was actually there at they're at the

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Speaker 6: school right now for orientation right now. So yeah, life's moving, man,

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Speaker 6: But football is good. Life's good, feels good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man.

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Speaker 2: Man, I gotta start things off with Shelby. You know,

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Speaker 2: we just finished camp, right, and we know this time

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Speaker 2: of year what this means for a lot of us.

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Speaker 2: You know, some people it's our season continues. For others,

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Speaker 2: unfortunately that would be the last time, right, And you

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Speaker 2: push out a tweet saying it's truly a blessing to

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Speaker 2: make the fifty three. Never have taken it for granted.

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Speaker 2: I remember the years I was wishing for this. So

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Speaker 2: can you enlighten us a little bit on you know

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Speaker 2: what that with that tweet? And what is making this

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Speaker 2: fifty three man roster?

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Speaker 1: Right? This is year number eleven? Eleven? Man? What does

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Speaker 1: that mean? Man?

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Speaker 4: It's just you know, during this time, you see some

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Speaker 4: a it's a time where you know, you know, there's

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Speaker 4: then they never make a team ever again. And I

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Speaker 4: remember my first couple of years I made the fifty

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Speaker 4: I got cut and I'm talking about I remember they

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Speaker 4: used to come up with that graphic hold on my

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Speaker 4: what those treats are for. Is it's just also to

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Speaker 4: from year two and three to eleven, obviously we're still kicking,

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Speaker 4: to make it, because you know, you have to be

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Speaker 4: is you know, it works in mysterious ways. You just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now that's real for you guys. We got nine, ten, twelve, eleven, eleven.

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Speaker 2: Again, how does for you guys right like you just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always a blessing anytime you can make the team.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely different your first few years. I feel like

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I just I was gonna say. I think

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Speaker 6: I think that's a humbling experience for me, Like every

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Speaker 6: it takes me back to that moment of like, you know,

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Speaker 6: I was drafted third round of Philly, but like there

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Speaker 6: you make that fifty three, no, no doubt, Like everybody said, like,

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Speaker 6: I know we're a little older, you know, so every

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Speaker 5: I feel like it's a blessing cause you know how

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Speaker 5: it is like literally every year they're trying to replace it.

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Speaker 1: You hear it.

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Speaker 5: You know you're in there competing with these you know,

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Speaker 5: Crazy, you know, it's crazy. You know, you wrap your

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Speaker 2: Like I know, I shoot in the locker room now,

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Speaker 2: you got to take great pride and keeping that seat, man,

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Speaker 2: you know, because it's hard to do. We know how

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Speaker 2: And uh so it's much respect to each one of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna have flip flip the script

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Speaker 2: Now obviously we just finished training camp, so uh you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, you know, we get to play football and

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Speaker 2: And like, true, is not what I'm talking about, bro,

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Speaker 2: that's not I'm really disappointed in you.

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Speaker 1: The season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the season of fatherhood.

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Speaker 2: That training camp is over, bro, Trading camp is over

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Speaker 2: you feel me. The long guy was just time to

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Speaker 2: put it in a clocking that work. You talk about

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Speaker 4: you know you've really got to shine as a parent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know I mean this.

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Speaker 2: You know, for you guys, it's this is definitely an

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Speaker 2: elite group of athletes, right Like you guys have a

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Speaker 2: can say you're an elite dad. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 2: as a new father, you know, I look up to

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Speaker 2: of being a dad for so long throughout the NFL.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's very challenging, I believe, but it's also

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Recently, for me on my journey, I've been reading this

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Speaker 2: book called A Kingdom Man, you know, as I approached

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Speaker 2: You talk about taking your kids to school, you talk about,

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: So, for for you guys sitting here today, what does

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Speaker 5: A father to me is, like you said, somebody's just present,

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Speaker 5: you know. You know, it might've been like a point

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Speaker 5: You know. I take pride in my son. He's six

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Speaker 5: you know, it's second job being a dad, say, and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think we all can agree that

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Speaker 6: right because that's gonna that's gonna fade, seasons gonna come

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Speaker 6: I want to be somebody who brings awareness, like like

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Speaker 6: It's like, bro, you got to if you could control yourself,

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Speaker 3: They've both you know, explained really well, it's truly being like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would just say, you know, same as Jordan,

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Speaker 4: it's just, uh, you know, like that's why you know,

432
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 4: I always say like football is not the most important thing,

433
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 4: because when you have a family, like they are the

434
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,680
Speaker 4: most important thing. And you know, obviously football with a

435
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 4: lot of our first loves and you know we're doing

436
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 4: all that, but then you know that love you have

437
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 4: for your family is different. There is a thing that's

438
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 4: like love is first sight. It's when your kid is born,

439
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like that that instant, like

440
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 4: the the baby comes out, it's just like you know,

441
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 4: the tears start flowing and you're just like that, like

442
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 4: that's love at first sight. And that's what I really

443
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 4: truly think they mean when they say, you know you

444
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 4: can fall in love with some somebody at first sight.

445
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 4: It's when your kids are born, you know what I mean.

446
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 4: I think it's a truly special thing that why would

447
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 4: you miss it? And like the craziest part too, is

448
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 4: when you have kids, you realize you lose respect for

449
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 4: anyone that's out there in their kids' life because It's

450
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 4: like why would you miss Why would you miss something

451
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 4: so precious?

452
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 1: Man, that's real. Yeah, what I mean, what I heard

453
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 1: from each of you.

454
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 2: Guys is is availability, right, being present. But something that

455
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 2: also stood out to me is ensuring that they.

456
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: Some of that Q said.

457
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 2: He talked about how he wants to make sure that

458
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: they realize that I love them more than I love ball, right,

459
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 2: and how do you demonstrate that? And we know how

460
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 2: much like this game takes away from us, like we

461
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: sacrifice so much and a lot of that are the

462
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 2: times you talked about how your kids away, you know,

463
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: first day of eighth grade. You know, like maybe there

464
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 2: are guys that we know that might not be able

465
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: to make it to that delivery room because of responsibilities here.

466
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 2: So like, how do you guys like ensure that that

467
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 2: that presence is felt.

468
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: And maybe it's not it's.

469
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: Not done in the traditional manner because of what this

470
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 2: job demands, but it works in your family dynamic, you know,

471
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: for your kid is and your wife to know, like, man,

472
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: this is this is that being available, This is that

473
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: pouring everything and owing to you guys.

474
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 5: I would say, because I mean, you hit it on

475
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 5: the head, like there's nothing traditional, traditional about the way

476
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 5: we go about things in the NFL players just an

477
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 5: athlete's life. But I think, like you said, like the

478
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 5: number one currency, like I said, like and the thing

479
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 5: that's the most valuable in this world that again, even

480
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 5: it's more valuable to money is time. So like I said,

481
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 5: just no matter what if it's like I said, an hour,

482
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 5: thirty minutes, just giving your time, you know, that's the

483
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 5: most important thing you can do. And they can said

484
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 5: like the number one currency, because like I said, if I

485
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 5: give somebody my time, that means I really appreciate your value.

486
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 5: Because again, the time I'm giving, whether it's five minutes

487
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 5: or an hour, never get it back, never give it back.

488
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 5: So it's like like I said, giving your time and

489
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 5: just being there in any capacity, whatever it is, whatever,

490
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 5: Like I said, your day, especially our day to day

491
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 5: gives like it's it's the most important thing. Like like

492
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 5: I said, I get home my wife, I'm like, man,

493
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 5: I'm tired. Body hurts, Hey baby, what is it? Just talk?

494
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 5: Let's talk? Or she want to watch a show. I know,

495
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 5: I'm tired. I can barely stay away. I'm like, all

496
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get this hour to watch the show. My

497
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 5: son come up to me like, hey, Dad, can we

498
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 5: play toys five minutes? Shoot, I'm tired. I know I

499
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 5: really don't want to, but if it's gonna make your

500
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 5: day for me, give me this five minutes? When to

501
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 5: give this five minutes? My daughters want to talk to

502
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 5: me about like preppy style or like the new lip

503
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 5: class that came out. I really don't care, but I'm like,

504
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna act like I care because that's what

505
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 5: you care about, you know. Yeah, it's giving that time.

506
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 4: It's like good. It's really like I always say, this

507
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 4: is like getting on the ground and play with them,

508
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like that's like that like

509
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 4: obviously time like time everyone knows because we don't have much.

510
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 4: But you know, it's when you get on the ground

511
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: and you know, my son like like my son's like,

512
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 4: I'm going to tackle you when I get home. I'm like,

513
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 4: we do, but just gonna hurt, Like you know, I'm

514
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 4: gonna tag me. But then also my daughter's like, you

515
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 4: don't play, you know, play with my barbies? Yeah, you know,

516
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna listen it Like it's getting on the ground

517
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 4: and getting dirty with them and playing with them and

518
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 4: it's just, you know, really just that's the main way

519
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 4: we can. Like, you can buy your kids whatever the

520
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 4: hell you want to, but that doesn't matter, you know

521
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 4: what I mean. What they want to do is you

522
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 4: can keep buying them all this stuff over and over

523
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 4: and over again, they still gonna keep asking to spend

524
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 4: time with you. And I think with a kid, that's

525
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 4: the number one way to show them you care. And

526
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 4: I remember it was one time I was sitting outside

527
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 4: waiting for my dad to come, and I was sitting

528
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 4: on the stoop or whatever, and he never showed up,

529
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 4: and all I wanted was his time. And that stuck

530
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: with me because I'm like, I'm never gonna make my

531
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 4: kids will never feel like that. You know, my kids

532
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 4: will always know Dad was there. You know, Dad loved me.

533
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 4: Dad shows up to everything you can. Like, when we

534
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 4: get this time off, I'm going to my daughter's softball game,

535
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like it's like any chance

536
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 4: I get, you know, I'm gonna go be Dad. On

537
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 4: Mondays after practice, I go to my Mondays after work,

538
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 4: I go to my but my son and my daughter's

539
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 4: SoC practice. You know what I mean, Like any chance

540
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 4: I can to be around you you will.

541
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: I will.

542
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 6: How many times you buy your kids a new toy

543
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 6: or something and they play with the box, right, they

544
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 6: don't care about the toy what we're talking about, right,

545
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 6: But that's I mean, that's it.

546
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 5: Man.

547
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: I try to be intentional.

548
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 6: We all try to be intentional and just you know

549
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 6: what your kids want to do, right, They'll tell you

550
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 6: what they want to do, how they want to play. Right,

551
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 6: it's taking five to ten minutes out your day to

552
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 6: do it. I know, one thing I try to do

553
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 6: with my kids is just do the nighttime routine. Like

554
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 6: I enjoy the nighttime routine with my kids because who

555
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 6: knows what time I get back, Like I might get back,

556
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 6: dinner might be done. You know, wife, you done held

557
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 6: it down and you know they kids are bathed and

558
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 6: it's time for bed, right, and it's like all right.

559
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 6: Like every ever since my first kid was born, my oldest,

560
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 6: it was nighttime.

561
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: Routine, like I got.

562
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 6: I got the nights during the season for sure, so

563
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 6: you know, reading, praying together, just talking Like sometimes I'll

564
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 6: just lay in the bed and just talk to them

565
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 6: five minutes.

566
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: I was a day.

567
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 6: You know what you get into, you know, tell me

568
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 6: what happened, blah blah blah. Right, just just making them

569
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 6: feel like, you know, I care and having those conversations

570
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 6: of intentionality.

571
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the same way. Every night. We were reading,

572
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: for sure. So we get home and I'll do a

573
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: few books with the kids. I think Shelby made a

574
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: great point. Off season dad is a real thing, Like

575
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 3: an off season. I feel like I have to double

576
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: my my time because it's like, man, I missed some

577
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: of these these moments. But truly, like when you're a

578
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: young guy, like off days, Like some of these young

579
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: guys you talk to, they're like, oh, I slept in

580
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 3: until ten or eleven. It's like my off days are

581
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: kids and wife days. You know, we wake up, we

582
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 3: enjoy it, you know. Now my oldest in school, but

583
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 3: we used to go to breakfast every off day, you know,

584
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 3: and things like that, just to enjoy those moments and

585
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 3: make those a little bit more special because you know,

586
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 3: it's like, hey, I'm working, but I also want to

587
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 3: be with you guys. But I think the nighttime routine

588
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 3: is huge because no matter what time I get home,

589
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 3: I can always be a little bit part of that.

590
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 4: But I really think that like what they would what

591
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 4: people don't realize is ninety percent of the time you

592
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: want to spend with your kids is before the age eighteen.

593
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: After that and they're gone in school, gonna have careers,

594
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 4: to have their own family. You can't you know, you

595
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 4: can try to fix the wrongs of the past, but

596
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 4: more likely, like what you do now is going to

597
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: stick with them for the rest of their life. And

598
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 4: so you know, move wisely, you know what I mean,

599
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 4: Like like you can you can always play that video

600
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 4: game afterl they go to sleep, you know, And that's

601
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 4: what I you know, I'm a gamer, so I always

602
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 4: like have to remember, like you know, they this is

603
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 4: like a valuable time for them. I can turn a

604
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 4: game on after you know what I mean, go play

605
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 4: Like it's like you gotta really, like, you know, intentionally

606
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: take that time to be, you know, to be with

607
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: your kids. And you know, just like everyone says, like

608
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: I feel like reading, you know, doing all that stuff

609
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: is it's such. It's it's you know, doing something that

610
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 4: you all love to do and doing it together at

611
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 4: nighttime is it's you know, it's a special thing. So

612
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: all the other stuff can wait, you know what I mean,

613
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 4: it's you know, we gotta you know, we gotta be that.

614
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think Joe what you said is, uh,

615
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 5: it's key as well. I mean because on top of

616
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 5: being dad a lot of times said it's being just

617
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 5: a good husband. Like you said, we only get one

618
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 5: day a week off reality and like that might have

619
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 5: been like my second or third year actually might have

620
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 5: been my second year in the league. I think I

621
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 5: hit Mike b I was like, hey, bro, like you're

622
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 5: trying to get a jump on you know, some past

623
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 5: rush stuff. It was like on a Tuesday, and you know,

624
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 5: I came to the league with a family, and he

625
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 5: told me, he said, bro, don't ever hit me on

626
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 5: a Tuesday. He said, don't you got a wife. He said,

627
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 5: spend some time with your wife on a Tuesday. And

628
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 5: I hit me. I was like, dang, it's good advice, man,

629
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 5: it's good advice. You mean you got one day a week.

630
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 5: It's like, man, just like Tuesday, don't ask me about no,

631
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 5: what's the run for the week? What are the past

632
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 5: rust play? Like Tuesday, like get that to your wife,

633
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 5: take her to breakfast, just because that's literally that's the

634
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 5: only day we get. So it's like that's the day, Like, hey,

635
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 5: if I can just take one day to set football

636
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 5: side and just pouring to you, this is the day.

637
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 5: Whatever you want to do, whether we just go to

638
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 5: a museum or something, but just he said, taking that time,

639
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 5: just be like I said, the good husband, because sometimes

640
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 5: that's get lost in the.

641
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: Wash with kids.

642
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 5: You know, you still have a spouse you made a

643
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 5: commitment to, and you got to, like I said, be

644
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 5: intentional because it we only got a lot of amount

645
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 5: of time, you know, and like said, take that day

646
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 5: to really to just be with your partner and give

647
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 5: them that same again attention as well. Because we all

648
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 5: know your wife happy you know, meals, cook house clean,

649
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 5: everything running well, the wife not happy. Don't none operate.

650
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 4: Like it really, like you know, it gets lost in

651
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: you know everything that like when you have kids, you

652
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 4: know a lot of people their marriages will struggle because

653
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 4: you're putting all your time into your kids and you're

654
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: not pouring back into your spouse, you know what I mean.

655
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: I think it's it's something that you know that we

656
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: all can we all can get better at you know

657
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 4: what I mean obviously, but it's you know, it's something

658
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 4: that's so you need to be intentional about it.

659
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: Part of that right, Like your kids if you're if you.

660
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 6: And your wife aren't doing well, right, your kids feel that, right,

661
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 6: So like the whole house runs better when you're when

662
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 6: when wife, you know you and the wife's relationship is

663
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 6: on the right path, right, So like, you know, I

664
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 6: think that's gotta be priority. Obviously we're talking to this

665
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 6: conversation about kids, but like that's the priority and everything

666
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 6: falls in.

667
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: Line under that, you know what I mean.

668
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: I had to check myself recently. You know, this is

669
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: a new world for me. But you know, I have

670
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: a daughter and I found myself. You know, she's only

671
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: twelve weeks old. But something I was doing on a

672
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: on a consistent basi in the morning, like she wakes up,

673
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, good morning, gorgeous, right, And like I saw

674
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: like a couple of days when it two and my

675
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: wife's looking at me like you ain't gonna say what

676
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: about me? You ain't like you don't say that to

677
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: me every morning. So I had to check myself. That

678
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: was a that was a moment in time where I said, okay,

679
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: like wow, like I need to like this level of

680
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: love righte that obviously I give it to my wife.

681
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: But it's now done in a different manner. When it

682
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: comes to my daughter, I have to make sure I

683
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: reciprocate in that same way. And so one thing that

684
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: I've started to do is be intentional about man, just

685
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: saying thank you, just at the end of the day,

686
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: right knowing like I've been away for so long, whether

687
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: it's workouts or now into the season mode, just like, man,

688
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: thank you for man, like taking care of our daughter,

689
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: like making sure she had everything because she's doing so much,

690
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: and just holding it down and just like those those

691
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: words alone, man just means so much. But yeah, it's everything.

692
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: It's definitely and and something that I know I've heard

693
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: you mentioned a lot, Q is you know, speaking about

694
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: you know, a significant other and letting guys know, man,

695
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: that's probably the one of the more important decisions that

696
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: you'll ever make, is who you choose, you know, in life,

697
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: like your partner.

698
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's the most I feel like it's

699
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 5: the most important decision you can ever make. I Mean,

700
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 5: there's a reason why we all said we can come

701
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 5: up here and operate the way we do is because

702
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 5: we all made great decisions when it came to when

703
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 5: it comes to our partners. You know, I can go

704
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 5: to practice and go to camp and literally lock in,

705
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 5: just focus on the task in hand, because I know

706
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 5: back home, everything's taken care of. You know, she didn't

707
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 5: moved the house unpacked, the house really moved like two

708
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: three houses. Like I said, she's in Seattle right now,

709
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 5: setting up our house a Seattle, making sure my daughter

710
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 5: and everything's taking care of first day at school, on

711
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 5: top of still making sure tapping on my parents and

712
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 5: making sure stuff's good here. While am I I literally

713
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 5: don't have to worry about anything. And peace. I mean

714
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 5: just yeah, you're at peace, and that's a blessing. So

715
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 5: it's like, how can I not again. On the other hand,

716
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 5: like I said, just show my appreciation, whether it's just

717
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 5: saying thank you, whether.

718
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: It's send her some flowers.

719
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 5: It's the little gestures, you know, just telling them again

720
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 5: because it is a thankless job. You know, we get

721
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 5: pats on the back, you get great job, you gotta

722
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 5: get tweets, you get paid. They get nothing in reality,

723
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 5: you know, And so it's just making them realize, like

724
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 5: what you're doing is important because again without our wives,

725
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 5: like again, none of this is possible. You know, I

726
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 5: can't go out there and play free. So it's like

727
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 5: just yeah, like I said, just let them know.

728
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: You gotta show them love because they can lose their identity,

729
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 4: you know, just like it's just like it's the routine, okay, kids, kids, kids,

730
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: you know, you got to pour into them so that

731
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 4: they remember who they are and so they don't forget

732
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: who they are, you know what I mean. It's just

733
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 4: you know, you obviously you said this is about fatherhood,

734
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 4: but like fatherhood, part of that is you know, your wife,

735
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 4: you know, you know what I mean, like your wife

736
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 4: or your spouse, you know what I mean. It's just

737
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 4: you know, poor to them and that. And that's kind

738
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 4: of where I struggle sometimes because you know, y'all know

739
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 4: I like to talk trash all the time, and I

740
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: got to turn that off like a little bit where

741
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 4: I go home, and you know what I mean, it's

742
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: be in that mode like and i'd be like little

743
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 4: bit like oh my bad, Like you know what I mean, Yeah,

744
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 4: let me let me chell out that song like that's

745
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: on me. But you know what I mean, it's just

746
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 4: we get so we be so on edge, not on edge,

747
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like just we'd be so

748
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: just running crazy in our mind over here at work

749
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 4: that like you know, you realize, like you got to

750
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 4: soften up when you go home, and you gotta be

751
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 4: you really got to make an effort to be a

752
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 4: different person, like when you go home and turn off

753
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 4: the little like that football like you like, that's that's

754
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 4: what kind of keeps us in this and it keeps

755
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: us still going.

756
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 5: I was gonna you're gonna say, I was gonna say,

757
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 5: just for everybody question, like is there anything that like

758
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 5: I think you alluded to, like you said you take

759
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: time in the car. Is there any tricks that y'all do?

760
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 5: I guess to like, because almost say, you have to

761
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 5: flip a switch, because like what we do by nature,

762
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 5: like especially what we're like in the trench, you gotta

763
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 5: put your hands on the man and striking man, like

764
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 5: you got to be in a different frame of mind.

765
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 5: So is it, like I guess there's any tricks that

766
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 5: y'all do to flip a switch?

767
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: To me, it's to drive home, like I got like

768
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: a twenty five minute drive so that calms me down,

769
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: and then really just stay away from the phone because

770
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: like the social media and stuff, that's where you see

771
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: everything and like the stuff. So me like if I

772
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: put my phone down, which it's always a struggle. Like

773
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: sometimes you have your phone and you're just like, oh,

774
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: I can check this real quick. But if I get that,

775
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: then really football's out of it because no one's texting

776
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: you about things. You're not seeing things on social media.

777
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 3: So it's a drive home and just like keep my

778
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 3: phone away because then what's happening is happening in the house.

779
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 3: You know, I don't see any of that other outside

780
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 3: news or anything like that.

781
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: I'll get my wife.

782
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 6: My wife will call me on the way home, and

783
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 6: I'm like, yo, I need this time, Like I'll talk to.

784
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: You when I get to the house.

785
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 6: Right, Like this twenty minutes that I got right here

786
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 6: is sacred for this moment of when I get home, right,

787
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 6: So like just clear in mind.

788
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: That's a clear mind when you get in the car. Yeah,

789
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm the same way.

790
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: You know, I like to I got like a twenty

791
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: twenty five minute drive home and it's either no music

792
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: or to you know, shelves point is something very you know, mellow,

793
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 2: soothing to the mind.

794
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: And then you know when I.

795
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: When I get home, I can be you know, all

796
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 2: the way present, but I do me and my wife

797
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: really enjoy that time of like dinner time is like

798
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 2: our time to like just talk about the day, talk

799
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: about feelings, what's going on where we kind of disconnect

800
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: from from everything.

801
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: Like that hour hour like is precious.

802
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 4: So I remember like when me and my wife were

803
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 4: like when you know, when we were young, going on

804
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 4: dates and stuff, and I remember my biggest rule always,

805
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 4: like when I was going on like days with women members,

806
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 4: if they whip out their phone during the day, I

807
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 4: won't be with them because it's like it means you

808
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 4: can't talk. And I kind of still have that same

809
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: mindset even when we're at dinner like or even when

810
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 4: we're like you know, eaven as the family, like no phones,

811
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: put the phones down, and this is where we're sposed

812
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 4: to talk, you know what I mean. Remember remember the

813
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 4: TV shows at the dinner tate when this is where

814
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 4: you finding out all you know, all the all the teams,

815
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 4: all the stuff. But then also like when I come

816
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 4: in the house, I just try to be as happy

817
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 4: what's going on, like you know what I mean, Like

818
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: you know, just like kind of like you're trying to

819
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: trick yourself too, because everybody, you know, we've everyone has

820
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: tough days at work. Everyone, you know, everyone, everyone has

821
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 4: these long days work. It's just like, man, I just

822
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 4: want to and so it's like you know, one trying

823
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 4: to away, not to bring it home, you know what

824
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 4: I mean.

825
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: And and I.

826
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: Realized back in the day, like like that's why I'm like,

827
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 4: you know, I'm harping on the music. Music was really

828
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 4: like mess your mind up when you go. When you go,

829
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 4: like when you're listening to aggressive music, you're not gonna

830
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 4: be able to calm down, you know what I mean.

831
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: What a question I have for you guys, like what

832
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: are some either like childhood traditions that you guys you know,

833
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: have like stuck with that now you implemented into your

834
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: own family dynamic, or maybe you've created new traditions of

835
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: your own.

836
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: M Man, we didn't have. I didn't have any really

837
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: childhood traditions.

838
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 4: It was just kind of just trying to make it,

839
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, just trying to get like

840
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: get by. And like the thing is, though, like my

841
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 4: grandma just used to when we were playing. I remember

842
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 4: like she was just just sit out there and like

843
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 4: you know, it wasn't phones or anything like that, so

844
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 4: she was just like chilling, like she'd be doing her

845
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: cross for puzzles and you know, rest of soul. But

846
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 4: it was just like you know, I'm gonna let you play,

847
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 4: but just know I'm here, you know, And it's kind

848
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 4: of like the kind of the same thing is just

849
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: like just being around, just being present. I guess it's

850
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 4: is the one thing because I would just say, like

851
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: my like I look at when I think of parenting,

852
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 4: and it's not like, you know, it's grandparents, Like my

853
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: grandmother was really like my heart, you know what I mean,

854
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 4: So if I could just be her, you know what

855
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 4: I mean, Like you know, it's like it's it's discipline,

856
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 4: but there's love behind it. And I always say, whenever

857
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 4: I have to discipline my kids, always make sure like

858
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 4: we sit down and we talk after like do you

859
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 4: know why? Like do you know why you just got unpunishment?

860
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: Do you know? Do you know why what just happened?

861
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 5: And when we talk and we go through it.

862
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: So because discipline, like you know, discipline or anything without

863
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 4: you know, at any explanation is kind of cruel. You know.

864
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: You gotta really like you know, they're they're they're growing

865
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 4: and you gotta and this is another way you teach

866
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: them about their feelings and communication because the nash you

867
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 4: gotta just you know, talk to them about why, because

868
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 4: so that they don't think, oh, daddy's just being me,

869
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 4: Mama is just being mean. No, there's a reason I'm

870
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: trying to raise you to be the best you can. Bet.

871
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: I think tradition wise, just a family dinner like I

872
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: think my family did together. I mean, when you have

873
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: sports and stuff, it's different, like everybody's traveling. But when

874
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: we're at home together, like everybody sits at the table,

875
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: we eat dinner, we talk, you know what I mean,

876
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: it's our time, like kind of you said, like that

877
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: hour where you have nothing to worry about. It's probably

878
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: like ten minutes with our kids now, But you know

879
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: what I mean, like we try and be together. We

880
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: try and be president in that moment. And my family

881
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: did that when I was a kid too, unless we

882
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: were you know, traveling for sports whatever.

883
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, the same.

884
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 6: I mean I didn't have a ton of family traditions

885
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 6: grown up, but the same thing, like dinner time is

886
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 6: sacred time. We read together every night, like I said,

887
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 6: we pray together every night. I think I think just

888
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 6: having whether it's five, ten, minutes of just that routine

889
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 6: every single night. Right, there's nights you know if we

890
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 6: don't read, if like the book's not out, you know,

891
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 6: and there's like been no talk and no initiation of

892
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 6: hey we're gonna read. It's like that are we reading?

893
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

894
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: Like are they know?

895
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 6: They know what to expect, right and so, and if

896
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 6: anything's out of whack, they pick it up, they pick

897
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 6: up on it. So yeah, just just those little moments.

898
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: Man.

899
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think traditions. I don't know per se any

900
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 5: like traditions, but I mean I said, I had a

901
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 5: great dad, and like I said, I know they worked

902
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 5: weird hours and but again, like I said, at the time,

903
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 5: he did had gave it to me. So I just

904
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 5: I really just try to be like him. You know,

905
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 5: none of our parents are perfect. They have folks, you know,

906
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 5: you try to build on those. But literally I was like,

907
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 5: like I said, I just try to be like him

908
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 5: and just be there, Like I said, just be there.

909
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 5: I mean that's the curry thing, you know. Yeah.

910
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean I think it's it's important like

911
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: whether you had traditions of your own as a child

912
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: that you now carried over to your own or you

913
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: started new ones. Uh, you know, I think you started

914
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: something in your family, right, like put down the phones,

915
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: Like that's something that now this is an era that

916
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: we live in, right, that your kids are going to

917
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: remember forever, Like this is a time for us to

918
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 2: like be a family and to indulge in one another

919
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: and build. And so you know, I just salute all y'all.

920
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna kind of switch topics a little bit. You know,

921
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: this is our segment. We come in to the end

922
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: where you know, ask you guys about like that dog moment.

923
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: You know, if you just think about like one moment

924
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: in your life where you had to you know, channel

925
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: that inner dog in an adverse situation, you know what

926
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: would it be? You know, we know our journey hasn't

927
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: been an easy road, and you know, for a lot

928
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: of people, I think they can gain something from a

929
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: one percenter like ourselves being able to reach the mountaintop

930
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: and knowing that it wasn't perfect. But we still are

931
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: here and we've overcome, you knowrobably a lot more than

932
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: people know.

933
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: I'll start off, mine's pretty fresh. Mine was last year.

934
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: Week It might have been week ten, Week nine, Week ten.

935
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 6: I am going in for routine tackle and my leg

936
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 6: whips around and hits one of my teammates in the knee,

937
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 6: you know, right in my shin. So I've got I

938
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 6: got a foot long scar right on my shin. Story goes,

939
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 6: I had compartment syndrome. It's where blood swells up and

940
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 6: in this area doesn't have anywhere to go, so it

941
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 6: just continues to swell, continues to swell. Well, people lose

942
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 6: their legs over it, amputees, all these different things, right,

943
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 6: you can get drop foot, you can get infections, all

944
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 6: these different things.

945
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was crazy. So it happened fifth play of

946
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: the game.

947
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 6: I ended up playing all the way till the first

948
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 6: drive of the third quarter, second half, and by the

949
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 6: time I came out, I had no flexion in my foot.

950
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: It was completely drop foot. I had drop foot.

951
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 6: I go in the training room obviously you know, trainers

952
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 6: are monitor monitoring it, and take off my pass, boom whatever.

953
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: Sit down. Like I said, like, I had no movement

954
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: in it.

955
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 6: But the pressure in there by far the worst worst

956
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 6: pain I've ever been in. Felt like my leg was

957
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 6: about to explode. Begging for pain pills, begging for for

958
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 6: you know, anything that they can give me.

959
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: They were like, bro, you're tapped out.

960
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 6: Like we can't give you, We can't give you nothing,

961
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 6: Like we've given you everything we can. I'm laying on

962
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 6: the table for about thirty minutes, game ends, you know,

963
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 6: and just excruciating. If I'm twisting, turn and trying to

964
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 6: get comfortable. There's nothing that can make it, make it

965
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 6: go away. They throw me in the back of a

966
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 6: of a UH ambulance and rush me to the hospital.

967
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 6: They give me, They give me, you know, ivy different

968
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 6: drips and all these different things.

969
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: Nothing is taken the pain away.

970
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 6: Like whatever the the ambulance had, the metal gray stuff

971
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 6: was crazy, didn't take it away. They had emergency surgery.

972
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 6: Slip me open. Like I said, I gotta. I got

973
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 6: a scar about that big right here on my shin

974
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 6: just to relieve the pressure.

975
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: Right. They had to cut it open relieve the pressure. Boom.

976
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 6: They said, if if we would have waited, you know,

977
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 6: less than an hour later, I probably could have had

978
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 6: permanent damage.

979
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: Crazy.

980
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 6: They had to leave it open for four days, uh

981
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 6: split wide open for four days. I'm on an ivy

982
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 6: drip of antibiotics for the for the uh you know,

983
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 6: infections and stuff and I was back playing in three weeks,

984
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 6: four weeks played, the last played, the last three games,

985
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 6: played the last three games, So like, you know, to

986
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 6: tie it back into kind of this topic, bro, Like,

987
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 6: as I'm going like I didn't you know, I woke

988
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 6: up from surgery and didn't realize how severe it was

989
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 6: until they told me had never heard a compartment syndrome

990
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 6: in my life. And you know, the doc was like, dude,

991
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 6: like you are, You're blessed, You're lucky.

992
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: You have every doctor you needed right here in front

993
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: of you.

994
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 6: And you know, as I'm going through this process and

995
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 6: laying in the hospital bed with my legs split wide open,

996
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 6: you know, for three days, all I'm thinking about is what,

997
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 6: you know, what am I going to be remembered? How

998
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 6: is this moment going to be remembered by my kids, right,

999
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 6: by my family, by those that love me?

1000
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: Right?

1001
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 6: How how am I going to impact others through this situation?

1002
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 6: And like being a father, being a parent changes like

1003
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 6: if I didn't have kids, like who knows, like it

1004
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 6: would have been my own internal like motivation to try

1005
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 6: and get back and like who knows, Like I don't know,

1006
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 6: but being a dad and being like my kids are

1007
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 6: going to see this one day and remember this moment

1008
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 6: one day and see how their dad overcame, you know,

1009
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 6: almost losing his leg, and then four weeks later was

1010
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 6: back there on the field, dogging it out right, just

1011
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 6: going going crazy. Right, That's that's that's the motivation, right

1012
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 6: that being a dad can give you.

1013
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: That's real, that's real stuff.

1014
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: Early in my career, I played my whole rookie year,

1015
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: but then my second and third year I had like

1016
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 3: a bunch of high ankle sprains. I had a list

1017
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: Frank that I have surgery on, and going into my

1018
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: fourth year, I got an MCL and training camp, and

1019
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: I was like in my head, I'm just like am

1020
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: I injury prone? Like I've never been injured in my life,

1021
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: and I just keep getting these things. So I just

1022
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 3: had this like mindset reset where I was like, I

1023
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: haven't had any control of these, Like I've gotten rolled

1024
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: up three times to get high ankle sprains, like I

1025
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: got stepped on to get my list Frank, and I

1026
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: got rolled up again to get an MCL and. So

1027
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: it was this mindset shift of like you can only

1028
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 3: control what you can control, Like I can't go out

1029
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: there every day worrying about being heard or injury prone.

1030
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: Like I just had to play play my you know,

1031
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: playing mind and I don't know if it actually helped

1032
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 3: or not, but just like flipping my mindset to being like, hey,

1033
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: you've done everything you can, like control what you can control.

1034
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: Then I went, you know, and I had a nice

1035
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: stretch of games where I didn't get hurt for you know,

1036
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 3: six seven years. But it was just one of those

1037
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: quick little mindset shifts, like I was feeling sorry for myself.

1038
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 3: I kept saying, like, you know, why is this happening

1039
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 3: to me? Like I don't deserve this, and it's like

1040
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's like, hey, you know,

1041
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: you get what you're giving, but like you can control

1042
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: what you can control. And that was kind of just

1043
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: that switching in mindset and it really helped me, you know,

1044
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: get through the early part of my career being kind

1045
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: of injured and having those things that you know, I

1046
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: didn't want to go through.

1047
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say mine would be my third year. Well,

1048
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 4: like in total, I've been cut like seven eight times

1049
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: in my career. My third year, I wasn't on a

1050
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 4: team for fifteen of the seventeen weeks like I was

1051
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 4: just at home training at like seven eight workouts. So

1052
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: I remember I had to work out with the Chargers.

1053
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 4: This is when they were in San Diego. Mike McCoy

1054
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 4: was head coach and it's crazy because he was the

1055
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 4: OC in Denver the next year when I made the

1056
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 4: team and everything. But I just remember, like you know,

1057
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 4: I had like I have asthma, and so I had

1058
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 4: like a respiratory infection, and so I went down there

1059
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 4: and I'm like dying and I thinking I'm out of shape.

1060
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 4: I'm like I just can't freethe and I just I

1061
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 4: remember I called my wife after and this is like

1062
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: this is like a six or seventh for workout, and

1063
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 4: I'm just like, dude, I'm done, Like I'm not, I can't.

1064
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 4: I just can't keep doing this, Like I'm never going

1065
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 4: to get a chance like this is. You know, it's

1066
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: bs like I know I can play, but I'm just not.

1067
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not getting a fair shake. I feel like,

1068
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: And she's just like, you're not a quitter. I'm telling you,

1069
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: if it was not for my support system, I would

1070
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 4: not be here. It out. She's like, you're not a quitter.

1071
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 4: You know, Yes, you're disappointed, but we're back at it tomorrow,

1072
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And then so it was

1073
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 4: just and I remember I was like, you know, I

1074
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: don't want to hear this right to it is right now,

1075
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 4: but you know, then the next week I had to

1076
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 4: work out with the Titans and it didn't work out.

1077
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 4: But then I get to the airport and then the

1078
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 4: Cowboys call and I went to practice squad there for

1079
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 4: three four weeks, and then the next year I signed

1080
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 4: with them outside the futures with diver and that was

1081
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 4: there for five years, you know what I mean. So

1082
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 4: like it was just a moment where like, you know,

1083
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 4: I have I do, I truly have like the best

1084
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 4: support system I could possibly have, not just like come

1085
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 4: talking about my wife. Like that was a moment where

1086
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: like I just thought I was done and I'm just

1087
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 4: like man, like you know, and you catch yourself like

1088
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 4: watching the games, and I felt, I feel awful saying this,

1089
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 4: but hoping someone gets hurt because you want your shot,

1090
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like it's just like and

1091
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 4: like and I hated feeling like that, you know what

1092
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: I mean, Like like damn, like I really you know,

1093
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 4: because you know the only way you're getting there because

1094
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 4: it's it's not the old IR like where you can

1095
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 4: bring somebody off. I mean, it's not the new IR

1096
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: where you can bring somebody off. It's the old one

1097
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 4: where somebody has to be out for the season and

1098
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: so like, and then I caught myself really like, you know,

1099
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 4: hoping that you know, because you have these certain teams

1100
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 4: like oh, if one thing happens, you're you're there and

1101
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 4: you just you know, you feel yourself like really and

1102
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: something like damn, am I wishing bad on people? You

1103
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 4: know what I mean? I was like until you know.

1104
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: So then my wife like if it once, my wife

1105
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 4: just been like, you know, you are good enough. You

1106
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 4: know you are. Just because I was, I was in

1107
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 4: a deep dark hole. And that's the thing that football

1108
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 4: can kind of do to people. It can you know,

1109
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 4: it makes your worth only so much. You know, your

1110
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 4: worth is only football because and so it was, you know,

1111
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 4: and I member, I couldn't even watch football that whole. Yeah,

1112
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't turn this off. I don't

1113
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 4: I don't want to see none of this. Like, but

1114
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 4: you know, if that was a deep dark time, you know,

1115
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 4: getting just rejected over and over and over again, then

1116
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 4: my first two years is getting cut over and over

1117
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: and over again and just not you know, you know,

1118
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 4: and then you know, that's why I said, it's truly

1119
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: a blessing to be here because you know, eleven, you know,

1120
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 4: eleven years later, well technically really ten years later, but

1121
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: eleven years, eleven seasons later, we're still here. And so

1122
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 4: you know, it was just you know, that was a

1123
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 4: crappy time. But it actually also, like you know, Maket,

1124
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 4: your real character have to come out and the people

1125
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 4: around you real character. And that's why I always say,

1126
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: like I'm lucky, I'm married to a real one, you

1127
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 4: know what I mean, someone who she had my back one. No,

1128
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 4: we didn't have much money to pay, but like she

1129
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 4: was working, she's a you go focus on doing what

1130
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 4: you need to do to get back to doing what

1131
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 4: you love, you know what I mean. So that was, yeah,

1132
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 4: that was that was probably I.

1133
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 5: Think you hit it on the head too, because it

1134
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 5: is like those those dark dog moments. It's great to

1135
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 5: have a great support system, and I know that kind

1136
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 5: of separates guys you know, who don't make it through

1137
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 5: those dark times and do you know, having great people

1138
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 5: around you and it just helps with your mental because

1139
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 5: like just when I think about my I guess dog moment.

1140
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 5: I had a couple, but the one that sticks out,

1141
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 5: you know. I'm in college, it's my going into my

1142
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 5: junior year. I have three kids. We're in a one

1143
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 5: bedroom with a den. I have torn Acl, my wife

1144
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 5: working like for job, and I'm like, I gotta make

1145
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 5: something shake. You know, I'm sticking tired of seeing her,

1146
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 5: you know, running around like a chicken with her head

1147
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 5: cut off. You know. You know she Yeah, like I said,

1148
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 5: working like four or five jobs, working out our case,

1149
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 5: daycare so we can get vout for the daycare, you know,

1150
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 5: And I'm sitting up here like a useless soac of potatoes. Yeah, Acl, Torn,

1151
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 5: And I'm just like, man like, I was like, I

1152
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 5: got to make something happen, you know. You know it

1153
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 5: is like I said, kids are hungry. They don't care

1154
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 5: about the circumstances. They don't care about you know, Tory,

1155
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 5: Acl Like they want food, you know. And yeah, I

1156
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 5: was just like I said, just blacks again, and have

1157
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 5: a great woman who's busting her tail. Offs said, breathing

1158
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 5: life into me. God damn hand bathing me, you know

1159
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 5: to Acl, she bathing me, making sure I'm good, helping

1160
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 5: lift me up, helping me. We lived in an apartment

1161
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 5: that had a nice set of flight of stairs. She

1162
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 5: helped me up the flight of stairs. You know. My

1163
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 5: parents would come. I'm in every now and then, checking

1164
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 5: on me, like I said, breathing life into me. And

1165
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 5: I mean everything turned out good, but just I know,

1166
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 5: live in that moment. I'm just like, man, like I

1167
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 5: gotta make something happen, you know, like I said, but

1168
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 5: just it all comes down like it, just surround yourself

1169
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 5: with great people, you know, whether it's great wife, great

1170
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 5: family members, great friends. You know, just it helps you

1171
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 5: know the absolute because it's a mentally draining sport and

1172
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 5: it's a lot going to it, you know, a lot

1173
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 5: of pressure, you know, perform, and just having good people

1174
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 5: can make that make a little lighter, you know.

1175
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 4: Man.

1176
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: I salute each and every one of you guys man

1177
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: for pushing through, remembering who each of you are and

1178
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: sometimes to Jordan's point, man, what we go through is

1179
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: not necessarily meant for us, but meant for somebody else's

1180
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 2: view to.

1181
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: Be able to see how you respond.

1182
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: And I think you guys have all responded obviously the

1183
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: right way.

1184
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: And being able to.

1185
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: Persevere allow you to sit here today. So man, this

1186
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 2: was a dope conversation.

1187
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: Brouh.

1188
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys for really being champions of of fatherhood,

1189
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: you know, recognizing your calling, embracing and accepting your role,

1190
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: and really man standing on standing on business, standing on

1191
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: character like where this world you know nowadays values everything

1192
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: else but that. And so it's good to be amongst

1193
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 2: a good group of real men, and so I appreciate it.

1194
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: That was it for today's show.

1195
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 2: We released the dogs and until next time, so Gi

1196
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: Rod and I'll holl let you