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Speaker 4: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 4: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 4: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 4: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 4: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 4: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 4: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: First thing first, we have to get into the fact that.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say alleged because that's the right thing to do.

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Speaker 4: So look k Michelle, who is allegedly joining the Real

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Speaker 4: Housewives of Atlanta. Although we've seen Ca Michelle, you know,

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Speaker 4: being photographed with the ladies over the weekend, Cam and

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Speaker 4: Shell's photographed with Juice, Doora Simpion, Bailey, Porsche, Pedra, Angela

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Speaker 4: Oakley Shamia and Kelly Farrell in addition to this person

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Speaker 4: a Pinky Cole, again not confirming that their housewives, but

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Speaker 4: they were filmed together on a private jet. So just

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Speaker 4: saying that now, Claudia and Dustin, I have to read

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Speaker 4: to you guys a few tweets that happened over the

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Speaker 4: weekend and I would love to get your thoughts. So

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Speaker 4: on September fifth, at four fifty five am, e strand

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Speaker 4: Ca Michelle tweeted, if it takes a group plot, a

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Speaker 4: rumor or scheme to bring me down when I'm coming

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Speaker 4: in love, you already lost in the game and lost

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Speaker 4: in life, all right. At five thirty two am that

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Speaker 4: same morning, Cay Michelle tweeted, you have to be a

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Speaker 4: sick person to plot and scheme on someone who is

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Speaker 4: minding their business.

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Speaker 1: Claudia in Dustin, it doesn't stop there.

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Speaker 4: The following after the next day, at twelve forty four pm,

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Speaker 4: Cay Michelle said, welke.

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Speaker 1: Up feeling blessed and loved.

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Speaker 4: I love my family and I love my husband. I

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Speaker 4: thank them for normalcy.

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Speaker 3: Did normalcy?

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Speaker 4: No fart, no dust it It's better. This is my love,

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Speaker 4: cam Michelle. So that was at twelve forty four, Dustin.

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Speaker 4: Two minutes later, Camy Shell wrote the fuck I don't

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Speaker 4: get our budget.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I wish I cared more.

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Speaker 4: Then we saw that allegedly Angela Oakley unfollowed Cay Michelle.

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Speaker 4: There's a dispute on whether or not Angela Oakley was

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Speaker 4: even following ca Michelle. However, those are the tweets, Dustin,

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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that? Could Chemis Shell be

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Speaker 4: talking about The Housewives, a show that allegedly has not

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Speaker 4: been confirmed that she's on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we know she's on the damn show, you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I know you had to say

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Speaker 5: that for a legal note, but we know she's on

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Speaker 5: the show, so she's there second of us. She's bringing

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Speaker 5: that Camis Shelle shit to the show, which can be

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Speaker 5: good and bad. The thing about it is it's a joke,

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Speaker 5: right because it ain't nothing about Cay Michelle normal. She's

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Speaker 5: a celebrity. She has an incredibly beautiful singing voice. She's

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Speaker 5: seen success that a lot of people will never see

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Speaker 5: in their lifetime. She's had experiences that are unique and

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Speaker 5: specific to being rich.

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Speaker 3: She's got more money than most people.

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Speaker 5: Have, and she as crazy as a betsy bug or

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Speaker 5: a bag of doorknob so that she's not normal. So

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Speaker 5: the whole throwback and toss to normalcy I thought was laughable.

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Speaker 3: It literally made me laugh out loud.

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Speaker 5: We know that ky Michelle is not afraid of a

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Speaker 5: confrontation or a verbal spat with someone, and so we

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Speaker 5: knew she was going to do that shit on Real

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Speaker 5: Housewives of Atlanta, and so bring it on. I'm ready

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Speaker 5: to be entertained. I just hope she aims her nerve

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Speaker 5: gun at the right person. They're the right people, you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I don't want to see her

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Speaker 5: just be raiding somebody that don't deserve it, or being

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Speaker 3: Amongst those women.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, When it's not necessary, keep

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Speaker 5: it bottled in, just like you do that, Jack Daniels.

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Speaker 5: You be on keep it bottled in, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, and then do it when it's necessary.

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Speaker 6: So I'm excited, Claudia, I'm already kind of exhausted from

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Speaker 6: the tweets. It's a little anti climatic because now if

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Speaker 6: be talking about housewives, she may be talking about Rashida

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Speaker 6: who knows because she has you know, she knows a

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Speaker 6: We're assuming its Housewives, and most likely it probably is.

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Speaker 6: But like, now that she's put this out there, of

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Speaker 6: course we're gonna be like, ooh, that's around the time

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Speaker 6: the cast was spotted in Dallas. Maybe something happened in Dallas,

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Speaker 6: and if it doesn't live up to the hype, we're

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Speaker 6: like kind of just chill a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 6: because I'm like, and you know, when you like, Housewives

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Speaker 6: used to do this all the time, unfathed and bathed

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Speaker 6: and bathed. That is the biggest indicator that you're bothered

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Speaker 6: is when you tell people how unbothered you are. When

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Speaker 6: you tell people I'm pressed, you're pressed. When you tell

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Speaker 6: people I'm broke, you're broke. Most usually, like you know,

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Speaker 6: like always, like if you're tweeting at four or five

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Speaker 6: unbothered you are, you are one thousand percent bothered. So

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Speaker 6: you're irritated, you're mad, you go to Twitter and you're

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Speaker 6: doing a subliminal Trust me, we've all probably done subliminals.

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Speaker 6: I've been guilty of it myself a lot of times.

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Speaker 6: I leave them in the draft, I write them, and

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Speaker 6: then I'm just like, Okay, that looks Oh that's going

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Speaker 6: to cause another problem and delete it. Because Kimashelle, everyone knows,

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Speaker 6: like you should know, all eyes are on you right

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Speaker 6: now because we're trying to put the pieces together.

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Speaker 7: Are you really on it?

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Speaker 6: We pretty much you know, we we pretty much know,

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Speaker 6: right but like, all eyes are on you right now.

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Speaker 6: They're trying to put the pieces together, so we're going

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Speaker 6: to like hold everything you say up under a magnifying

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Speaker 6: feel like less is more right now, Like I'd rather

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Speaker 6: her come out the gate and we'd be like pleasantly surprised,

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Speaker 6: then see all these sweets and be like, oh, she's

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Speaker 6: getting at them, and then when it comes out if

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Speaker 7: She's very dramatic, she's very entertaining.

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Speaker 6: So I don't know, but I'm like, all these sweets

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Speaker 6: ons are already on Twitter and we haven't seen that

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Speaker 6: when things drop yet. They just started feeling a couple

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Speaker 6: of weeks ago, like you are, it's already on ten.

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Speaker 3: Happened what happened now already?

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Speaker 5: Or is she being emotionally reactive to stuff that doesn't

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Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll see, we never know. What came

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Speaker 5: She's gonna hit that Jack Yoda, let them ladies put

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Speaker 3: So I'm ready for it. Let's see, And I'll tell

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Speaker 5: I think that if Angela Oakley did unfollow her, that's

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Speaker 5: gonna be a great match that's gonna be a great

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Speaker 5: verbal pair of verbal sparring matchup.

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Speaker 3: And I can't wait.

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Speaker 5: And Angela gonna get in that pain to handle their business,

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Speaker 5: So I'm excited.

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Speaker 6: It's just a lot of people though right it seems

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Speaker 6: like too many people though.

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Speaker 4: Well, based on the number from my calculation. So if

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Speaker 4: Ky Michelle and Picky Coole are the two newbies, right

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Speaker 4: you add Porsche, that's three, Faith makes four, Drew makes five,

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Speaker 4: Shanmia makes six, Kelly makes subvvant, and Angela Oakley makes eight.

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Speaker 4: I have never seen in my years working on alant

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Speaker 4: of housewives, so even being a part of it by

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Speaker 4: watching the show, eight housewives.

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Speaker 1: So the question does remain, is that too many houses?

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Speaker 3: Wise?

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Speaker 1: For one shot? Now I will say this, Oh go.

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Speaker 5: Ahead, No, it's not. These are women with extraordinary personalities.

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Speaker 5: I think that it is not going to feel too full.

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Speaker 5: I think that last season, even with the addition of

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Speaker 5: while she may not be my favorite housewife, people love

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Speaker 5: and it did not, it still felt like there was

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Speaker 5: it felt like to grow. So I think that if

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Speaker 5: there are eight ladies holding those peaches, what a better

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Speaker 5: way for Real Housewives of Atlanta to regain its position

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Speaker 5: as the grind dome no pun intended of the Real

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Speaker 5: Housewives shows. Give them ladies eight, give us eight Atlanta housewives.

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Speaker 5: It's been done on Beverly Hills before, it's been done

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Speaker 5: in other cities, like give us eight housewives. Can we

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Speaker 5: can handle that and then let the chips kind of

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Speaker 5: fall where they made later. I think eight is a

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Speaker 5: great number for Atlanta this season.

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Speaker 6: So you're saying eight is enough, Claudia, Yes, shot with

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Speaker 6: the old sikop I actually agree with you, Dustin in

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Speaker 6: the sense of look, I think when it comes to

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Speaker 6: Atlanta Housewives, Atlanta Housewives will always be a very special

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Speaker 1: And you are right.

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Speaker 4: Beverly Hills had a women at one point, and that

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Speaker 4: was actually a really good season. When it comes to

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Speaker 4: these women, I will say this, I am interested in

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Speaker 4: seeing the full story of all of them, and for me,

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Speaker 4: you also get a chance to see. Look, if somebody

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Speaker 4: we can see as the audience which housewife is lacking

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Speaker 1: But I think having eight is a step in the

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Speaker 4: I think eight, in my opinion, will afford these women.

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Speaker 1: The opportunity to step it up. I think I think

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Speaker 1: some of them last seasons lacked in.

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Speaker 4: The storyline department.

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Speaker 1: A lot more than others.

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Speaker 4: Right, so to be able to see more women who

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Speaker 4: have more interesting stories, I think I think it's a

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Speaker 4: great test to do that.

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Speaker 1: So I agree with you, I think eight is fine.

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Speaker 4: And when it comes to Michelle, when it comes to

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Speaker 4: chem Michelle, I will say this. I will always be

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Speaker 4: a Kim Michelle stand. The first day I met her

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Speaker 4: in Love and Hip Hop Atlanta, I knew she was

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Speaker 4: going to.

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Speaker 1: Be the big star she is today.

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Speaker 4: I will say this about Kim Michelle, and this is

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Speaker 4: the reason why I'm happy if she is doing the show. Hey,

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Speaker 4: legal note, but I'm also happy that she gets a chance.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say this and it may not be popular,

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Speaker 4: and I don't give a shit. I'm sick and tired

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Speaker 4: of the excuse me. I'm sick and tire of the

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Speaker 4: archaic waves things used to be done. There was a

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Speaker 4: time to where a love and hip hop star would

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Speaker 4: never be graced amongst a housewife show, right, And I'm

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Speaker 4: I am somebody who believes that just because you started

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Speaker 4: And look, I think the tweets, in my opinion, I'm

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Speaker 5: if kay Mischelle can do that successfully, then more power

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Speaker 3: I'm not a hater.

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Speaker 5: So if that makes if that happens for her and

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Speaker 3: Let's see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Claudia before you, I'm gonna Claudia to wrap

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Speaker 4: I'm not joke king, Okay, I would like to see

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Speaker 4: I would like to see Jocelyne Hernandez on The Real

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Speaker 6: Well, m m all right, Like how we're on the

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Speaker 1: Are we?

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Speaker 6: Non verbals? Non verbal?

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Speaker 3: Let me say Let me say this. I watch Joscelyn's

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Speaker 5: I think that Jocelyne is interesting on television and I

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Speaker 6: She's very funny.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll say that now that Housewives conversation. That's some

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Speaker 5: other ship, you know what I'm saying. But but as

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Speaker 6: Here, sure, I love seeing black and brown people work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, yeah mm.

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Speaker 6: If you want to add asad as Jocelyn, or just

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Speaker 1: General in general, what we talked about. We got a

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm I'm with it all with the evolution, I

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I feel like the show's not the show it used

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Speaker 7: It was just not a lot of wives on there.

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Speaker 6: Claudia Atlanta Streets Street Atlanta, the Streets of Atlanta, Because

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Speaker 6: I remember the niggas of parents, but now we got

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, scenarios, but.

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Speaker 6: As far as the housewife and husband dynamic that we

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Speaker 7: You don't have that.

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Speaker 6: You got girls that got to open up, like you know,

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Speaker 7: It's not the same. It's not like what it was.

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Speaker 6: I want to get back, like away from heaps fighting,

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Speaker 6: and he'd be.

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Speaker 6: And I think it takes more strength to be like that,

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Speaker 3: Care Yeah, very easy. I listen.

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Speaker 5: I would love to see I Ain't even gonna hold

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Speaker 5: we know the Real Housewives of Atlanta cast members. To

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Speaker 5: That's what I wanted to I want to I want

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Speaker 3: I don't know where it needs to live.

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Speaker 5: Carlos, who is dallous and magic. I don't know where

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Speaker 3: I want to see it.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying that it might not be

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Speaker 5: how much you love these women Carlos from all walks

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Speaker 3: I think you know.

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Speaker 6: Type chicks, feel like that could be a good Detroit show, Like.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I want to see that.

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Speaker 5: The girls that don't talk. I want to see a

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Speaker 6: Yes, someone said, oh, well, Claudia, you didn't have a

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Speaker 3: What happened anyway, But I was.

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Speaker 7: Dating someone at the time that.

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Speaker 1: Baby I had mine, Oh, Claudia.

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Speaker 6: But and now they had known and he had a meeting,

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Speaker 6: right I'm I gonna say, but he had a meeting.

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Speaker 6: No please, no, no, no, Oh, I know, Carlos, I know,

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Speaker 6: But what happened once we had just started dating towards

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Speaker 6: it was not Roger Bob, stop it. And he said, Claudia,

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Speaker 6: And I'm so glad I did ja bullet And this

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Speaker 6: But we're not gonna say all.

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Speaker 1: I'll say rain drops. He is five.

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Speaker 6: I only.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about your roster, and we're gonna listen.

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Speaker 4: I will give you this, and I'll give you your tens,

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Speaker 4: but I'm gonna give you this too.

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Speaker 1: Add this to your accomplishments in life.

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Speaker 4: I have the pleasure of being around two of Claudia's

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Speaker 4: former dates, right, and I also know about her other

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Speaker 1: I will give Claudia Jordan this.

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Speaker 4: Claudia Jordan's roster are all a ten out of a tent.

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Speaker 1: MS Mama does not do a nine.

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Speaker 4: She don't do a nine plenty five, Claudia doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Her tens are ten.

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Speaker 5: Answer based on what I know. Claudia don't suck around.

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Speaker 5: She don't play. You know she's going to cast the

442
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Speaker 5: net and get the fish.

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Speaker 3: She won't. I'll put it like that.

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Speaker 6: That's why when people be like, oh, you don't have

445
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Speaker 6: I'm like, no, I do. I don't tell y'all see

446
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Speaker 6: y'all have with him, and I also protect it. And

447
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 6: like the guys that I like are like unicorns, so

448
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Speaker 6: they don't come a diamond dozen like it takes a

449
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Speaker 6: minute to like get them.

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Speaker 1: People.

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Speaker 7: Let me see, I'll see.

452
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Speaker 6: I'll tell y'all if anybody right, yup, y'all mentioned maybe

453
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Speaker 6: one two, y'all mentioned I saw one.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna say nothing.

455
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Speaker 5: I'm not even at the comments, but I can already

456
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Speaker 5: tell you I know they're going to arrive at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's what That's what y'all said.

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Speaker 1: That. All I'll do is this, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Claudia protect her all the time, claudiaything no, so all

460
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Speaker 4: almost say it is Claudia pulls the tense for sure.

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Speaker 1: I will say this.

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Speaker 4: Quadia, I'm not gonna say much actually had two, but

463
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Speaker 4: she's forgetting about the second one that I've met at

464
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Speaker 4: the club.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, if you worry.

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Speaker 5: And they'd be cool too, I will say that, as

467
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Speaker 5: Claudia's friend that she has allowed in spaces with you know,

468
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Speaker 5: partners that she's been involved with or whatever, that I've

469
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Speaker 5: been treated very nicely. I actually have gotten along with

470
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Speaker 5: people to the point where I wish that. You know,

471
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Speaker 5: of course I'm gonna be on Claudia side no matter what.

472
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Speaker 5: Fuck the niggas, you know what I'm saying. But I

473
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Speaker 5: have wanted certain situations to work out because I genuinely

474
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Speaker 5: enjoyed the company of you know, the.

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Speaker 3: People that she has introduced me to.

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Speaker 5: I say that I'm trying to be as vague as possible, Claudia,

477
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Speaker 5: because you know, I.

478
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Speaker 6: Love you for that. I never hooked up with that person.

479
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Speaker 6: We met an event.

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Speaker 1: And no, no, no no, I think he wanted you.

481
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Speaker 6: We all will hang it out, but that he was

482
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Speaker 6: like wandering I with all my friends and like right away,

483
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Speaker 6: I was like, m but he's very fine. He's very

484
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Speaker 6: popular in Tyler Perry productions. Will say you are, there's

485
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Speaker 6: a lot of them. But I never touched him. We

486
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Speaker 6: never made out, We never kissed, No that. But he

487
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Speaker 6: was at my house with a group of us. We

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Speaker 6: all went out that night. Yet that was not club

489
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Speaker 6: in Atlanta. It wasn't Christian k y'all, it was not Christian. Okay, names.

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Speaker 4: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 4: Let's get back into the show anyway, And.

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Speaker 6: Tyler Perry do you have similar tastes like his taste in

493
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Speaker 6: casting and the.

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Speaker 1: People that he.

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Speaker 6: Is similar.

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Speaker 1: What big that I do want to say is Ray draw.

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Speaker 4: Somebody wanted me to give y'all a message. Peter Thomas says, Hello, shout.

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Speaker 3: Out to my boy Peter.

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Speaker 6: Yes he's in right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Oh man, hi Peter.

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Speaker 4: Yes he's he.

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Speaker 1: He wanted me to tell you guys hello, he said.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm only saying this because he gave me permission,

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Speaker 4: because I'll know, I'm gonna make sure.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So Peter Thomas wanted me to tell everybody he is

508
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Speaker 4: doing well, that he's hanging in there, he's in good spirit.

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Speaker 4: He said that this is the part that baby laugh.

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Speaker 4: He said, Well, don't Carlo, they know you here. I said,

511
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Speaker 4: oh the God tell me in prison. He said, yes,

512
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Speaker 4: don't do it, don't do it, don't do it.

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Speaker 6: Oh yes, love loud was king, Okay, do it.

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Speaker 8: So one thing he did say was he mentioned that

515
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Speaker 8: every Saturday day, he said, they are glue in front

516
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Speaker 8: of the television watching Huntsville.

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Speaker 4: He said, and in my mind, because I'm a little whatever,

518
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Speaker 4: I said, wait, just to be clear, you're like the

519
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Speaker 4: man's prison.

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Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, and what do you think I mean?

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Speaker 4: I'm like that sure, because I'm like he said, Carlos

522
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Speaker 4: is to the point where if you try to change

523
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Speaker 4: the channel, you're getting beat up. He said, they love Huntsville,

524
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Speaker 4: and he wanted me to tell everybody on Huntsville that

525
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Speaker 4: the prison mates, inmates, they love the show.

526
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Speaker 1: And he wanted me to tell you, Claude, you dusted.

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Speaker 1: Hello and the rain drops he says, Hi.

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Speaker 3: Is that what he said?

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Speaker 6: Just Hello?

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Speaker 7: That's it.

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Speaker 4: But he wanted me to everybody like he's doing good,

532
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Speaker 4: that he's in he's in good spirits and and he's

533
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Speaker 4: rocking and rolling and and he's not sad depressed.

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Speaker 1: He's doing his time and he's he's there to, you know,

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Speaker 1: do his thing and get out.

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Speaker 3: He got fine.

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Speaker 5: Peter will be just fine. Don't you remember when he

538
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 5: whooped mad ass? Remember Matt that Kenya was Dayton and

539
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 5: he whooped mad ass at that radio station. It's all

540
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 5: it's online, you can look it up. Peter be mad

541
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Speaker 5: ass in that radio station. Matt really thought he had him.

542
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Speaker 5: Peter is an old school hustler. You know what I'm saying.

543
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Speaker 5: When Peter and Cynthia are together and I was around Peter.

544
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Speaker 5: He was always very nice to me. You know what

545
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Speaker 5: I'm saying. Of course, my loyalty's eyes was Cynthia and

546
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 5: always will but like he was cool, you know what

547
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Speaker 5: I'm saying. And I think that he'll handle him. So

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Speaker 5: I hate to see him in there, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, But he'll pay his debt and handle that.

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00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 5: So and I'm not worried about him behind them by

551
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 5: shout out to Peter and shout out to everybody in

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Speaker 5: the system, you know what I'm saying, who's paying their

553
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Speaker 5: debt properly, you know, is remorseful about whatever happened to them.

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Speaker 5: They're all shout out to my podcast, The friend Zone.

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00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 5: We got approved on some list of podcasts that people

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Speaker 5: can listen to that are incarcerated and whatever prison systems,

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00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 5: and we get tons and tons of support from people

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Speaker 5: that are incarcerated at this time. So that's a that's

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Speaker 5: an audience, that's a population. And who better to speak to,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying that who better to give

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Speaker 5: information and make feel good than people who need it

562
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Speaker 5: at that time. So if y'all nigga's watching us right now,

563
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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, that's that's that's handling that.

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Speaker 3: And locked up. Shout out to y'all hold your head.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I used to have a connecting prison my one

566
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Speaker 6: of my friends, and they used to like study the

567
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Speaker 6: sports betting every day, and they used to give me

568
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Speaker 6: like ten team parlays.

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Speaker 3: You told me it's a long time ago. You told

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Speaker 3: me that Cardia.

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Speaker 6: Yes, shout out to Boo. I think his name is Boo.

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Speaker 6: He used to give me some good bets. I think

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Speaker 6: I want like five ten team parlays. I would like

574
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Speaker 6: throw a little something on his books, give his mama

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Speaker 6: some money. I know, I got a little rapticide.

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Speaker 5: Anyways, and they loved you from the Prices right too,

577
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 5: didn't you have a big audience in there from like

578
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Speaker 5: your time on the Price is Right.

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Speaker 6: Because back then the Price was Right was like pouring

580
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Speaker 6: back then for them. They could see girls.

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Speaker 1: So wanted to make sure I stayed up before I

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Speaker 1: moved on.

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Speaker 4: So last hot topic of the evening, speaking of casting,

584
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Speaker 4: The Real Housewives of New Jersey, as you all know, has.

585
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Speaker 1: Been put on palls for almost I think it's going

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Speaker 1: on the year.

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Speaker 4: For my calculations due to the fact that last season,

588
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Speaker 4: the ladies were not getting along.

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Speaker 1: It was destructive.

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Speaker 4: Rumors had it in the past week or two that

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Speaker 4: has been the talk of the town that they are

592
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Speaker 4: testing new housewives.

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Speaker 1: Potential housewives, but.

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Speaker 4: The potential housewives are only filming allegedly with Dolores, Melissa Gorga,

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Speaker 4: and Margaret Josephs missing in terms of filming.

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Speaker 1: Is Teresa? Excuse me?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 4: Teresa recently sent her podcast that you know, she felt

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Speaker 4: that last year the ladies were trying to out her out.

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Speaker 4: I mean I saw out so that she wouldn't come back,

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Speaker 4: so that it's been hard. Her guest Christian Gray said that,

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Speaker 4: you know, we got to make sure that we're not

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Speaker 4: doing this in this scene and we're not talking to

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Speaker 4: her in the scene. Is that what happens on these shows?

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Speaker 4: He feels like it shouldn't happen. Teresa says she agrees,

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Speaker 4: and that's why she feels like Salt Lake City is amazing.

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Speaker 1: She's been watching the show and learning a lot from them.

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Speaker 1: So Dustin and Claudia.

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Speaker 4: Can the Real Housewives of New Jersey survive without Teresa Judas.

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Speaker 6: Full disclosure, I don't know who any of the my

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Speaker 6: girls are. I really don't. I don't I know who

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Speaker 6: Terreitha is. I've never seen one episode, so I have

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Speaker 6: to just tap out on this one and let the

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Speaker 6: reality show TV historian Dustin I have to.

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Speaker 7: I relinquished my time.

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Speaker 3: Okay, look, snatches, Kate, let's go. First.

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Speaker 5: Of all, Real Housewives of New Jersey is a ghetto

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Speaker 5: ass show. I don't care what nobody says. They've been

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Speaker 5: ghetto from day one, and that's why a certain audience

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Speaker 5: loved that show.

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Speaker 3: It also appealed to us. It was about.

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Speaker 5: Families, it was drama, and they never gave a fuck

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Speaker 5: about going to the line with the drama.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: It was a refreshing take on a bunch of white

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Speaker 5: ladies living in a you know what I'm saying, that

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Speaker 5: random neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: It was refreshing.

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Speaker 5: We were able to identify with certain elements and themes

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Speaker 5: this whole Teresa Versus Melissa debate. This can be summed

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Speaker 5: up very simply by people who watched the show from

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Speaker 5: season one forward. Seasons one and two of the Real

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Speaker 5: Housewives of New Jersey. Teresa and her family were interesting.

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Speaker 5: We were captivated by them, her and all them daughters

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Speaker 5: and just everything going on with them. We didn't even

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Speaker 5: know that Teresa had a brother and a sister in law. Okay,

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Speaker 5: she never mentioned her family. She never exploited that very

638
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Speaker 5: serious rift that was going on in her family that

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Speaker 5: we didn't know anything about it. We found out about

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Speaker 5: it because Melissa was willing to introduce that family drama

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Speaker 5: and use it as something to position herself on the

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Speaker 5: cast of the show. That's what happened when Teresa, so

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Speaker 5: much so that when Teresa came on to season three,

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Speaker 5: episode one and she was at the baby's christening her

645
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Speaker 5: nephew or niece's it was one of her nephews, Christenings,

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Speaker 5: I think, and they had that big blow up in

647
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Speaker 5: the first episode. Melissa and her sisters was bringing the

648
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Speaker 5: straight up drama and they all introduced and Joe Gorga.

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Speaker 5: They introduced that family conflict to the audiences and to

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Speaker 5: the world.

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Speaker 3: Teresa never did that. Now.

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Speaker 5: I have my personal take on Teresa and some of

653
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Speaker 5: what she's offered to that show, but take all that

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Speaker 5: out when it comes down.

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Speaker 3: To Melissa versus Teresa.

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Speaker 5: Melissa and Joe are the ones who brought that family

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Speaker 5: drama to the forefront and used it as something to

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Speaker 5: position themselves on the show.

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Speaker 3: That's simply what happened.

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Speaker 5: You might ain't gotta like Teresa, you ain't gotta agree

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Speaker 5: with nothing else going on in her life, But when

662
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 5: we're talking about Melissa versus Teresa, that is what happened.

663
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: And because of that, I've never really seen the value

664
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 5: in Melissa on the show beyond her conflict with Teresa

665
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 5: and them which Teresa never used to be interesting on

666
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 5: the show. And that's the difference between the two of them.

667
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 5: Now has it run its course? Is it still absolutely?

668
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 5: Are the audiences as a whole ready to move on?

669
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: For sure? Okay?

670
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 5: But what happened is that Melissa and Joe were willing

671
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 5: to exploit their family drama to be on that show,

672
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 5: and they introduced all of that shit to the show.

673
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: That's just the facts.

674
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 5: Now, you can't start a story in the middle, you

675
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 5: can't start it in the end close to the end.

676
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 5: Things have happened along the way that Teresa is at

677
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 5: fault for. She's had multiple opportunity it needs to quell

678
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 5: that drama and shut it down.

679
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 3: She has not.

680
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 5: But if we're talking about what happened, Melissa and Joe

681
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 5: brought that family drama to the show. Terita never used

682
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 5: that to be interesting on the show. That's the facts

683
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 5: we can go on.

684
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 6: You're so there's such a like we're so lucky to

685
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 6: have you, like you're such a JOm Like I'm like,

686
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, yeah, I need to go back and

687
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 6: see this because I.

688
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 7: Don't know this ship, and damn you can just go.

689
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 6: Like your brain is like an encyclopedia.

690
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: That's what we get along because yours is too, you know, Claudia,

691
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: we can run it.

692
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Yes, encyclopedia, but you have

693
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 6: that reality stuff down like you have so much like

694
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 6: your memory card is not full.

695
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: My little.

696
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 6: More bandwidth, okay, but you just go when you find

697
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 6: episode eight season two, remember that.

698
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: Thank you, Like remember that ship because I used to. Really,

699
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 3: I was caught up in that world.

700
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 5: When they announced I remember them announcing, you know, it's

701
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 5: old time at the Apollo over here. I remember stuff,

702
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 5: and so I remember when they announced The Housewives of

703
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 5: New Jersey. I remember that first trailer. I remember season two,

704
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 5: the whole hair pulling moment with Jacqueline's daughter, which I

705
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 5: love the way they said her name Jacqueline. The would

706
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 5: call her Jacqueline. I love that, but I remember just

707
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 5: all those were huge moments, and Carlos, that's when you

708
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 5: were at the helm of you were producing over there,

709
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 5: when all that stuff was going on in seasons one

710
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 5: and two, that made everybody fall in love with the

711
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: Real Housewives of New Jersey. That's why it's still here,

712
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 5: so you know, return the form would be cool. The show,

713
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 5: Like I said, they ghetto. Danielle Cabral was yelling on

714
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 5: their last season, you're dirty, You're dirty, yelling at the

715
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 5: old girl's face, throwing glasses and shit. I remember when

716
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 5: them ghetto ass twins was on there fighting and them

717
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 5: firemen costumes and shit. It's been It's been multiple physical,

718
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 5: multiple physical altercations on Real house They've had.

719
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: More fight than and just so you know, Claudia, the

720
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 4: Real Housewives Jersey has have more physical altercations than any housewives.

721
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: Of course.

722
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 6: Let me tell you, Italians and Irish are the what

723
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 6: word can I use of the whites you already know, Okay,

724
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 6: they are them. They are them Italians and the Irish

725
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 6: they are with the ships. They're the most I don't

726
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 6: want to say, yeah, the most.

727
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: The Real Housewives in New Jersey that's what they get it.

728
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: They get a going, they get a going. So listen,

729
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: Dustin is I don't have anything to say after what

730
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: Dustin just said. I mean, I agree with everything he said.

731
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 4: The only thing I'm going to offer up as producer

732
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 4: is this, just because newbies aren't filming with all of

733
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 4: the potential housewives doesn't mean that that person is out right.

734
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: And I'll give.

735
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 4: Claudia an example, because she's here. Claudia filmed with Kenya

736
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 4: right when she was testing out. Claudia did not film

737
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 4: with any of the housewives. So just because the new

738
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 4: the potential housewives are not filming with Teresa does not

739
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: mean Teresa is not coming back. Now, the rumor is

740
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 4: that if she's not coming back, it's because they're giving

741
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 4: Teresa her own show with her family, which would be great.

742
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: Too, But I want to offer it up, don't.

743
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: I don't care about her family. I don't want to

744
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 3: see no damn show with Teresa and Louie and them

745
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 3: fucking kids. We don't know what Louise. We care about

746
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: Teresa's daughters because we've seen them.

747
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 5: But they've been writing Donald Trump and doing all kinds

748
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 5: of shit that we're disinterested in right. So I personally,

749
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 5: just speaking for myself, I don't give a fuck about

750
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 5: the show with Teresa and her family. Teresa needs to

751
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 5: be on the Real Housewives of New Jersey. She needs

752
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 5: to figure it out when it comes to filming with Melissa,

753
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 5: because apparently Bravo sees valuing her and she ain't going nowhere.

754
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: And so suck it up. Figure it out, Teresa, that

755
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 3: whole stalemate, not filming with this one and not filming

756
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 3: with that one. Don't nobody, none of.

757
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 5: Y'all add enough value to the show to be able

758
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 5: to take that sort of stance and have it, you know,

759
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 5: have some weight and levity. Suck it up, be a

760
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 5: grown up, learn how to film, even if you have

761
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 5: to figure it out, so that we can get back

762
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 5: to what makes all of you interesting.

763
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: We only like Teresa because she was on the Real

764
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 3: Housewives of New Jersey.

765
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 5: Outside of that, yes, she's got had cookbook success and

766
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 5: all the other shit, but that's been a derivative of

767
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 5: her run on the Real Housewives of New Jersey. She

768
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 5: owes it to herself to figure out how to if

769
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 5: this is your show and you started this shit whole court,

770
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, it don't matter who they

771
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 5: bring on the show. You can deal with it and

772
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 5: figure it out, even if it's your sister in law

773
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 5: who you automatic. I've never understood why Teresa allowed herself

774
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 5: to succumb to Melissa's tactics. You were here first, hold

775
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 5: your ground and make Melissa uncomfortable on this damn show.

776
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: That's what you should do. So all that, not on

777
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: the film or giving her her own show.

778
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 5: I don't give a damn about nothing going on in

779
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 5: that tacky ass house that looks like them tacky ass

780
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 5: decorations they put in the White House, all that gold

781
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 5: leaf shit, I don't care about.

782
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: None of that. I want to see her on the

783
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: cast with the other women.

784
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 6: Everybody thinks they need a spin off or deserve one,

785
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 6: or that they and not just housewives. I mean, everyone

786
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 6: thinks I should have a reality show. I should, I should,

787
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 6: I should spin off, And it's like it takes a

788
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 6: lot to carry that.

789
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: You know. I'm so we we we shall see, we

790
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: shall see so. But as of now, no announcements have

791
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: been made.

792
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: So with that being said, look, I would love to

793
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 4: see Teresa back on the show. I think Teresa the

794
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 4: face of the show. I think I was a producer.

795
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: It's her show, and I think in terms of advertising,

796
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: marketing and all of that, when advertisers and everybody hears

797
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: the real house spots from New Jersey, Like Claudia said,

798
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: Claudia knows not one person on that show besides Teresa

799
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 4: Judi and that's the reason why she needs to come

800
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 4: back to the show. So I'll just ended there. Now

801
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 4: let's get it to Love and Marriage Haunts Bill. So

802
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: this episode was a doozy. There was a lot going

803
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 4: on Dustin and Claudia. I first want to get into

804
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 4: what's going on between Destiny and Lance, so to update

805
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: the audience and to update well, don't needs up at YouTube.

806
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: Destiny is single, she was married, she's divorced. She's a

807
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 4: single mother. Okay, she is in hospital, Alabama that has

808
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 4: a population of eighty two people.

809
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: So I'm teasing you Forguret to take me seriously.

810
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 4: So Hustbille as a small town, Destiny is a beautiful

811
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 4: single woman.

812
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: Lance is the adult son of Neil Fletcher.

813
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 4: Okay, that's still we're clear now with that being said,

814
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: just for you know, to let everyone know, because I

815
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 4: think y'all access last time Chris Fletcher is not Lance's

816
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 4: biological father. Okay, So Mail had Lance in a previous relationship. Okay,

817
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 4: Destiny dated Lance. Okay, they had a rendezvous. Destney said

818
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: it wasn't intimate. We'll get into that conversation letter that

819
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: she had with Neil. But while Destiny and Lance were

820
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: dating the day we tape the reunion last year. So

821
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: we take last year's reunion Claudia and Dustin in October

822
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty four. We tape the reunion in Los Angeles. Okay,

823
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 4: nine times out of ten. The cast obviously likes to

824
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 4: stay a couple of days after because why not. Apparently

825
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 4: Lance Lance was there, but he was off camera. Apparently

826
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 4: the Fletchers left immediately, they left La and Latitia Scott,

827
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 4: and Nail's voice told Destiny that she heard they had

828
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 4: to run off because this woman that Lance was dating,

829
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 4: he got her pregnant and the lady was having the baby.

830
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: Okay, that's happened.

831
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 4: Allegedly, Destiny found out that Lance had a baby courtesy

832
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: uh Instagram.

833
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: So in this one on one they have the conversation.

834
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 4: Claudia, want to start with you, as a woman, what

835
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 4: did you think about the fact that listen, Lance said

836
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 4: he did not hide his baby from Destiny.

837
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: He was hiding the world from his baby. I'm saying that.

838
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 7: Okay, but okay, okay, Drake, thank you, thank you, thank you.

839
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 4: But when it comes to that, do you think as

840
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 4: a woman that Lance is Lance should have told Destiny.

841
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: Yes, we're dating. Yes it's casual. I'm dating other women.

842
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 4: However, I did get someone pregnant before nine months later

843
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 4: seeing the photo on Instagram, of.

844
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 6: Course, like why are we playing this woman's face like

845
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 6: like like she didn't have a valid point to feel away?

846
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 6: Of course I don't. Even if we're actually dating, you

847
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 6: having a baby, you're getting another woman pregnant is a

848
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 6: big occurrence in your life. Let's flip the script and

849
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 6: reverse it real quick. What if she would have just

850
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 6: got pregnant by someone else while she was casually dating Lands,

851
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 6: it would be the end of the world.

852
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 7: She's a horror, she's for the streets.

853
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 6: Like, let's let's normalize, like, you know, an equal playing

854
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 6: field here. Of course, that's a big deal. And she

855
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 6: doesn't have to be his woman official title for him

856
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 6: to share that with her, just being someone that's in

857
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 6: his orbit in his life. That's something I want to know.

858
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 6: I don't want to be with someone that has a

859
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 6: newborn baby because it always reflects badly on the woman

860
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 6: that's right after that, Like, you're not letting a family

861
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 6: be a family. You're interfering, You're in the way. What's

862
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 6: going on here? And yes, and you know, I take

863
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 6: issue with like Nell and I love now when she

864
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 6: was on the show. I think she's adorable. I love

865
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 6: her personality, but like, these are grown up, these are

866
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 6: not children. And having smoke for Destiny because she may

867
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 6: have flirted with someone else. I love the line that

868
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 6: Destney said, I may have been making googly eyes, but

869
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:08,479
Speaker 6: he was making babies. I thought that was bars because okay,

870
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 6: well Britain bars. Okay, you know, not the first one

871
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 6: a pre write a read.

872
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 3: But you know, there you go, fam, I'm making babies,

873
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 3: I'm making an eye. You know she was rapping.

874
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 7: It's like the double standards is out of control.

875
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 6: You know. I'm like, if someone has a baby while

876
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 6: we're dating, guess what. I can date your father, your cousin,

877
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 6: your brother, can date whoever the fuck I want. And

878
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 6: you can't really say anything about it because you are

879
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 6: out here raw dogging other people and made a baby,

880
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 6: so please stop playing with me and like to make

881
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 6: her like where the scarlet letter that.

882
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 7: She's some half of the streets.

883
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 6: I don't think she knew that that was a relative

884
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 6: when she saw him and made quote unquote googly eyes.

885
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 6: I feel like she saw a tall, good looking man,

886
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 6: which you know, in shape with You don't really see

887
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 6: that a lot, and everyone does that, Oh, who's that?

888
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 7: Does she give him? Does she give him? Ask that night?

889
00:44:59,080 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

890
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 7: I don't know. Oh that's my opinion.

891
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 6: Y'all know these people more than I do. But what

892
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 6: I'm looking at, I was like, I don't think she

893
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 6: was in the wrong. And the fact that she even

894
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 6: gave the respect to Lance and said, I'm letting you

895
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 6: know that I heard he's interested and if he does

896
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 6: ask me, I would be open to go on that.

897
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 7: Why you're out here making children with other people? Think

898
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 7: she I think she handled it right in my opinion.

899
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm rolling with Claudia on this one. I'm one

900
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 5: hundred percent in agreement. I'm over people trying to police

901
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 5: women's bodies. If Destiny wanted to fuck everybody on that show,

902
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 5: that she could morally so what she can do what

903
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 5: she wants to do.

904
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: And I don't think that it's nails ain't none of

905
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: nails damn business.

906
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 5: I actually, and I'm fresh off of that documentary on

907
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 5: Netflix's Unknown Number where that mother was sending them crazy

908
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 5: text to her daughter. So the whole other of like

909
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 5: over involvement of the mother in the child's very adult business,

910
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 5: I'm triggered by that.

911
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: In this case, I.

912
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 5: Definitely thought Nail was overstepping the fuck out of her

913
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 5: boundaries by even having a conversation about what all these

914
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 5: grown people are doing with their privates.

915
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: I don't understand it, and then doubling down on the

916
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: fact I know he slept with it. I know, my boy,

917
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: all of that stuff, Like I just I was.

918
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 5: Like, damn Nell, Like if he's saying they didn't do it,

919
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 5: Destiny Flyers said in her scene that they did not

920
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 5: mess around, which they didn't have to say anything at all,

921
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 5: because it was nobody's business what the fuck they did.

922
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: And even if and I thought it was interesting that

923
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 3: nobody Nails.

924
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 5: All of Neil's vitry all was aimed at Destiny for

925
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 5: allegedly having involvement with these two men who had a

926
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 5: pre existent relationship as god brothers. But Neil didn't say

927
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 5: nothing to them, like, well, why y'all trying to fuck

928
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 5: on the same girl? You know what I'm saying, Like

929
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 5: that was not called out by her. So I'm one

930
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 5: hundred percent with Claudia on this. There is an obvious

931
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 5: double standard, and Destiny was in the right in this case.

932
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 5: She has four control over her autonomy. She can be

933
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 5: with whoever the hell she wants to be with. And

934
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 5: I do not believe for one second to her and

935
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 5: Lance where any form or semblance of anything serious. I

936
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 5: think that they were having fun and dating. As far

937
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 5: as this cast is concerned, Destiny is like the single

938
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 5: one who can be living that life and going on

939
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 5: dates and stuff.

940
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: And if that's what she was doing, that's what she

941
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 3: was doing. You know what I'm saying.

942
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 5: Yes, she was flirty with this one, flirty with that one,

943
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 5: but if her and him were not in a serious connection,

944
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 5: she had every right to do that. And so I

945
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 5: don't this all the involvement. I don't get led Destiny Rod.

946
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 5: That's hers to do whatever she want.

947
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 6: To do it with and some I will never say

948
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 6: all or many, but there's some black mamas that are

949
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 6: very involved in their son's lives and almost treat them

950
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 6: like their man sometimes. And it's weird, right, Like it's

951
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 6: like when she started naming the names of all these

952
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 6: other men that alleging like kind of putting bodies on Destiny,

953
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 6: I thought that was kind of like not cool, Like

954
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 6: why would you do that? Like it was almost like

955
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 6: she was like, your son is the one that has

956
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 6: actual DNA evidence of being with other people, you know,

957
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 6: like while you're out here like kind of kind of

958
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 6: low key kind of shaming destiny. Your son is out

959
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 6: here like what they say, laying it low, spreading it wide.

960
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 6: I don't know whatever shout out to funky with the

961
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 6: saying but like you know for a fact that he's

962
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 6: been with other people, you're like a legend things about

963
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 6: this girl and it kind of like, you know, and

964
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 6: luckily Desinely had a good sense of humor about it

965
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 6: and she didn't seem to go off. But that usually

966
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 6: that that will put again a scarlet letter around a woman,

967
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 6: like why is it that she's so wrong for even

968
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,959
Speaker 6: flirting or noticing an attractive man, But we're not having

969
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 6: the same accountability or smoke for someone that's dating seeing

970
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 6: this woman but then laid up with another woman and

971
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 6: got another woman pregnant and created a whole entire life.

972
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 7: It's like, to me, like, they're not this, They're.

973
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 3: Not the same thing, and neither I'm sorry, I mean

974
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: to cut you off for him more.

975
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 6: She's getting more like pushback, and it's like the people

976
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 6: not like destiny. Is that why they're like judging her

977
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 6: more harshly. But I think a lot of times mama

978
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 6: is of a black boys. Some black men be babying

979
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 6: their sons and they don't like they kind of like

980
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 6: co sign everything they do and they never really feel

981
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 6: like they have to have accountability for anything because the

982
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 6: mama always tells them, No, you're right baby, No, that's

983
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 6: a fast girl, that's them.

984
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 7: No sometimes that you sometimes that you.

985
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 5: I believe that a lot of what Neil was doing

986
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 5: in this episode was for the sorry y'all that's probably

987
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 5: in order coming through anyways is gonna happen, but okay, anyways,

988
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 5: I think that Neil was being performative. A lot of

989
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 5: that was for the camera based on what like, we

990
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 5: just had a great conversation with Neil on the show

991
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 5: A couple of weeks ago, based on what we've seen

992
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 5: in past seasons from her and the other scenes, she

993
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 5: was prying and really like tapping into that.

994
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: I think for the show. I think in real life

995
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 3: she wouldn't be that involved in our son's business.

996
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 9: And I'll stop you there, not to get too much away,

997
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 9: not to give too much away, but I will say this,

998
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 9: Nell is a mama bear, and you'll see more of.

999
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 4: The interaction she has with her family this season. But

1000
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 4: when it comes to I'm not talking about her being

1001
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 4: performed or whatever, but I think when it comes to

1002
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 4: when it comes to her kids now, is definitely a

1003
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 4: mama bear for sure.

1004
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 3: Okay, well, then in that case, Neil, you're wrong. You're

1005
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 3: wrong as hell.

1006
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 5: You need to get out of Destiny and the lance business.

1007
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 5: They don't really have no business for you to be in,

1008
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 5: especially if they didn't have sex, and even if they did,

1009
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 5: they're grown adults. All these people are adults and everybody

1010
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 5: needs to mind their business.

1011
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: So Nail, you're wrong, and that's that, you're wrong as hell.

1012
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: Stay out their business.

1013
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 6: And it did it did feel like you know, when

1014
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 6: you maybe you have a slow week with your drama

1015
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 6: and your own storyline and you kind of have to

1016
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 6: milk something. When I was looking at like produce her mind, like,

1017
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 6: I was like, this feels that she's kind of dragging

1018
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 6: us a little bit. Sd Max says, Italian mom is baby,

1019
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 6: they're boys too. That is one thousand percent of facts.

1020
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 4: My mom.

1021
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 6: My mother is like one of seven and she has

1022
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 6: one brother. And the way they would baby the brother

1023
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,959
Speaker 6: the boy like everything it is right, nothing is wrong

1024
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 6: just because he has a penis. Like, honestly, some cultures

1025
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 6: really just do not like to hold their sons accountable,

1026
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 6: like they really treat them as the golden child.

1027
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 7: And I think Italians black folks very much do that.

1028
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 4: And that's, to me, is the beauty of this conversation, right,

1029
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 4: because I do think it's funny because as you all know,

1030
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 4: I'm one of ten kids.

1031
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: I have nice siblings. And one of the topics is, well,

1032
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: let me break it down first.

1033
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: It's seven boys and three girls, right, seven boys and

1034
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 4: three girls, and my sisters high to Meka, Lakita and Carlita.

1035
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: They watched every Monday. My sisters will always tell my mom.

1036
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 4: You baby, these boys like you baby, these boys. And

1037
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 4: it's funny because this is the best part of the conversation.

1038
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 4: My two of my sisters obviously had children. They have

1039
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 4: a daughter and a son, and their daughters told them

1040
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 4: you baby my brother like so I thought it was

1041
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 4: interesting because it is sort of like, is it this cycle?

1042
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 4: And that's the reason why when it comes to Nail,

1043
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 4: Nell is very passionate when it comes to her kids.

1044
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: In general, Lance is her first born and that's her

1045
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 1: Her first born.

1046
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 4: Is a is a like you we said, a boy

1047
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 4: a man, and that's why to me, it is interesting

1048
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 4: to sort of see the mama bear come out when

1049
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 4: it comes to it. And that's why rain das from

1050
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 4: the chat, I do, I do want to talk about

1051
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 4: this more in detail, not tonight, but just in general

1052
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 4: as we sort of recap the rest of the season.

1053
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: Do y'all feel like when.

1054
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 4: It comes to black mothers Italian mothers too, as as

1055
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 4: you guys outline in the in the chat that they're

1056
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 4: they're harder on their daughters than they are their boys.

1057
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 4: Because that is a topic of conversation that my family had.

1058
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 4: I'm singing on the show and Claudia and Dust and

1059
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 4: I've raised the good points too when it comes to

1060
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 4: DestinE that we'll say this when I created a Love

1061
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 4: and Matter. TUN's bell obviously lives about three couples, but

1062
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 4: similar to housewives, things change, and unfortunately the divorce rate

1063
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 4: is that fifty one percent. I believe I always wanted

1064
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 4: to tell the story of like look, just because your

1065
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 4: divorce doesn't mean.

1066
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: You your life is over.

1067
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 4: I will always applaud destiny to tell the story of

1068
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: I'm single, I should be dating and figuring life out.

1069
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 4: I do think it's unfair, and I agree with Dustin

1070
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 4: one hundred percent. I do think it's unfair that a

1071
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 4: woman who is single is not allowed to day around

1072
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 4: figure things out, and if she wants to sleep around,

1073
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 4: it's her body, do what she wants to do. As

1074
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 4: long as is her choice, her body, her choice will

1075
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: This is a big topic the rest of the season.

1076
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 4: But I will say is I applaud destiny because being

1077
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 4: a single woman, Claudia, I would love to ask you this.

1078
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: Being a single woman around married women and.

1079
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 4: Married couples, it is harder because you are seen oftentimes.

1080
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: But again, I want Claudia as a pain on this

1081
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: because I'm not a single woman.

1082
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 4: But Claudia, do you feel like unfortunately single women get

1083
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: a bad rap for dating around town just because they're

1084
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 4: around married couples and people look down on it.

1085
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 6: One thousand percent. You're always seen as a threat. I

1086
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 6: can't tell you how many friends like you know, I'm

1087
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 6: a relationship girl. When I'm in a relationship, I love

1088
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 6: going on like couples trips. I love doing like double days.

1089
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 6: I love that. I feel like it builds like kind

1090
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 6: of community and like it's strong hands. It's really good

1091
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 6: for your couples to be with other couples. But you know,

1092
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 6: sometimes in between relationships, I'd be the single girl at

1093
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 6: a wedding or on a trip, and I feel like

1094
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 6: the men that have these women, they almost want to

1095
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 6: keep their women away from me, their girlfriends, like I'm

1096
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 6: gonna somehow encourage them to like creep or I'm gonna

1097
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 6: have them around all these single men, and it's just

1098
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 6: like not right, It's just not true. I remember one

1099
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 6: year on a girl's trip, a Rata, who is Michael

1100
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 6: Blackson's fiance. Michael Blackson came on the trip with us, right,

1101
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 6: so he was the one man on a girl's trip

1102
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 6: and he got to see what it was like and

1103
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 6: he was actually blown away. And I was like, see

1104
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 6: I wanted you to see this like we're not these

1105
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 6: like we're not these threatening mystical beings that just have

1106
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 6: supply of random extra spare dicks on hand for our

1107
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 6: friends to just run through. It's not like that. But

1108
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 6: people tend to think, Oh, that single girl's gonna take

1109
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 6: you away and she's gonna have you around her single

1110
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 6: baller friends, and you're gonna leave me for that. You

1111
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 6: can be single and still be a good girls girl

1112
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 6: and still be a pro relational friend. I always encourage

1113
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 6: I'm not with that being a side chick or my

1114
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 6: friends like cheating on their men. I'm always like, yo,

1115
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 6: you need to talk to your man and figure it out. Like,

1116
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 6: don't go to me for an alibi. Let's you're my Bessie, Bessie,

1117
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 6: I got your back girlfriend.

1118
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 3: But I'm saying like, I'm gonna call you, and I

1119
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: ain't your girlfriend. I'm gonna call you.

1120
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 6: I would never try to encourage someone to, like, you know,

1121
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 6: just be be trifled like that. Matter of fact, I

1122
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 6: have friends that lie to me about what they're doing

1123
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 6: because they know I don't play that. So yeah, they

1124
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 6: definitely look at the single friend as like you're like,

1125
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 6: you know, you represent temptation and like bringing their girl

1126
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 6: like or you also can give them the game like girl,

1127
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 6: there's still other men out there. And I hate that

1128
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 6: they think that because if you get to know me,

1129
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 6: you know I'm a very traditional relationship Like I'm traditional roles.

1130
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 7: Like I like, I don't like all that cheating nonsense.

1131
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 7: I'm not with that. So, yeah, one thousand was sent.

1132
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 6: They think that we're like the Scarlet Letter once again,

1133
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 6: like we're just We're gonna take your girl and make

1134
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 6: a fuck somebody else.

1135
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 7: I'm like, no, I'm not doing that.

1136
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No.

1137
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 4: It's a very interesting topic and again it just explore

1138
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 4: a few more times this season.

1139
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: But I want to move on to talk about the

1140
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: men meet up.

1141
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 4: So Maurice decided to get all the guys together so

1142
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 4: that Martel and Marcel are able to finally address their

1143
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 4: long standing feud. Claudia, to catch you up on what's

1144
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 4: been going on since day one, long story, short years

1145
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 4: ago maybe ten years ago, no, I think he said nine.

1146
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 4: Nine years ago.

1147
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: Martel and Marcel decided to.

1148
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 4: Go into business together and have a company named Scote

1149
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 4: so it's Scott's and Hope Merge as one they called

1150
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 4: it scope, okay. Martel is alleging that Marceau was on

1151
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 4: hard times being a manager at the movie theater getting

1152
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 4: fired for that's what he's saying, and that he was

1153
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 4: in bad times and that's why Martel decided being in

1154
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 4: good a good space financially to even have this company.

1155
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 4: What happened is a few years later they decided to

1156
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 4: disband the company and Martel decided to give Marcel the

1157
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 4: name and walked away from it.

1158
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 3: Right.

1159
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 4: What has been sort of a top of conversation ever

1160
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 4: since then is Marcel and Martel being an odds alleged

1161
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 4: cheating scandals. Martel has alledged to that Marcel has slept

1162
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 4: in twenty women while he was married.

1163
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: Martel did a YouTube interview.

1164
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 4: With a woman alleging to be one of Marcel's lady

1165
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 4: friends that he slept with, and this is how everything

1166
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 4: started to unravel in it when it came to their friendship.

1167
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 4: So in this conversation, they really were throwing digs at

1168
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 4: each other.

1169
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: But Dustin, you have.

1170
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 4: Been around since season one, watching all of this for

1171
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 4: the past ten seasons, what do you think is the

1172
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 4: root of Martel at Marceau's issues.

1173
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: A lack of accountability on Martell's behalf. That's what I think.

1174
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 5: I think that Martel has been running from taking accountability

1175
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 5: with the fact that he broke his family up and

1176
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 5: that had overreaching impacts into their friendship circle, and he

1177
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 5: is constantly running away from the acceptance and acknowledgment of

1178
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 5: that fact, and it affects every area of his life

1179
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 5: that we as viewers have been exposed to. So that's

1180
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 5: what I think is the root of all that. Again,

1181
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,479
Speaker 5: you can't start a story at the end, in the middle,

1182
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 5: or at the end. You have to start at the beginning.

1183
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 5: And the root of their conflict came from Marceaul.

1184
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 3: Marceul laid it out.

1185
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 5: He laid it out, He told jokes about something that

1186
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 5: he thought was fodder amongst the group, lighthearted jokes. Martel

1187
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 5: took issue with that because Martel was facing a lot

1188
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 5: of accusations right which belonged in his lap, but he

1189
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 5: was facing a lot at one time, and he decided

1190
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 5: to act out towards Marceau in that way.

1191
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 3: We saw him go way far with that.

1192
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 5: Accused Latsia of sleeping with other people at some times

1193
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 5: back in the day, bringing up things from back in

1194
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 5: the day to try to make them look bad, right,

1195
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 5: bringing up guys that said they had a sexual relationship

1196
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 5: with her at a time when she was an adult

1197
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 5: and single and able to do so. Bringing up the

1198
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 5: fact that Marceau was managing that movie theater to try

1199
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 5: to diminish him or look like he was at a

1200
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 5: low earning job and was seeking some sort of relief

1201
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 5: and help from Martel in partnership with him on scold.

1202
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 5: That's why he brought all that up. You bringing those

1203
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 5: things up to make him look like he needed your

1204
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 5: help at one point. These are things that have nothing

1205
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 5: to do with literally the root of your issue. And

1206
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 5: so all that deflection, all that the accusations he threw.

1207
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 5: While you can ask questions about the fidelity of Marceaul

1208
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 5: and Latsia's Latisa Scott, you could ask questions about the

1209
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 5: fidelity of their marriage, but that don't have shit to

1210
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 5: do with what Martel did and what he took umbrage

1211
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 5: with Marcel Scott for in the first place. You ain't

1212
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 5: gotta like Marceau, You ain't gotta like le Tisa Scott.

1213
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 5: You ain't gotta like them. You can have you can

1214
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 5: have very real feelings and opinions about the ways that

1215
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 5: they have shown up in other relationships amongst the cast.

1216
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 5: But if we talking about Martel and Marceaul, the fracture

1217
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 5: of the relationship we were presented with Martella's at fault.

1218
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 3: That's just what it is.

1219
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say this about Martella. If I was any

1220
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 6: of the male cast members on this show, I would

1221
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 6: never confide or tell him anything ever. Again, He's the

1222
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 6: type of person that when he's on the hot seat,

1223
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 6: he's gonna blow the whole thing up and bring everybody

1224
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 6: down with him. He can't just stand in his truth

1225
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 6: and his lane and say let's just talk about like

1226
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 6: they can't, you know, and you have a conversation like

1227
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 6: about you, you gotta be well, when you did this,

1228
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 6: when you did that, when you did this, well, fuck it.

1229
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 6: If I'm going down, everyone's going out. He reminds me

1230
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 6: of the scene in the movie Why Did I Get

1231
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 6: Married To with all the dinner table and everyone's like, oh, okay, okay,

1232
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 6: we're telling secrets. Well, why don't you tell your wife

1233
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 6: about where you're taking you know, antibiotics. Oh okay, we're

1234
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 6: doing that, Well, why don't you say that's.

1235
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 7: What Martella is doing that's his whole thing.

1236
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 6: And yes, he was in the hot seat for a

1237
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 6: long time from his own actions, and now he's not

1238
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 6: so much on the hot seat like he's been in

1239
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 6: the past. He feeling himself a little bit. So now

1240
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 6: he's like getting everybody back. But when things were rough

1241
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 6: for him, that's what it feels like to me. I'm

1242
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 6: you know, it seems like he's like the way he

1243
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 6: did that, like I know this guy code right, and

1244
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 6: you know, you can't trust someone if in good times

1245
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 6: all the things I tell you now or you know

1246
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 6: you're gonna just put me on blasts on television like

1247
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 6: that to use it in a tactic to win a fight.

1248
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 6: I only would do that if it's someone I never ever, ever,

1249
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 6: ever ever care to ever be around ever again.

1250
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 7: I'll be cool with.

1251
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 6: That's when you burn the whole thing down, Like he's

1252
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 6: still kind of like one foot on, you know, he's

1253
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 6: straddling the fence, like you're I don't get how he's

1254
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 6: like going scorch to earth on everyone like that.

1255
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 3: To me, my thing is to Claudia, like what the

1256
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 3: fuck we supposed to do with that? Right?

1257
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 5: If anything, nigga, you laid up in the room while

1258
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 5: they was fucking these other women, You was going on

1259
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 5: trips with it. If what you're saying is true, you

1260
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 5: are just as complicit, And don't tell me about it

1261
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 5: now when you was alright with it before your shit

1262
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 5: hit the fan and before your shit came out.

1263
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 3: I can't stand people like that. You just as bad.

1264
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 5: That don't make you look more pious or make you

1265
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 5: look like you are you have any integrity. You kept

1266
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 5: the line going as long as it served you, and

1267
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 5: I can't stand motherfuckers like that. Don't tell me something

1268
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 5: somebody did to me or how they wronged me, when

1269
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 5: you were all right with them wronging me allegedly.

1270
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 6: You know, you laughing about it before.

1271
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 3: No, no, he does.

1272
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 6: He does give that. He's crashing out right now, but

1273
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 6: he's trying to act cool and like I even know

1274
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 6: the time he answered questions, his voice goes up. That's

1275
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 6: a sign of man's line. Okay, person, when the register

1276
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 6: goes up like that, and he's like, he's just interested

1277
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 6: in trying to humiliate the other man, and that's that's

1278
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 6: his defense mechanism, and that's I mean, that's very similar

1279
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 6: to what the housewives do. So at this point, March

1280
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 6: hopes give him a peach because he's earned it at

1281
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 6: this point, being a messy up. He's being messy, he

1282
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 6: being like one of the he's one of the girls

1283
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 6: right now.

1284
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 4: So worth I do what to talk about is doing

1285
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 4: that conversation. Obviously it's it's between the two of them,

1286
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 4: but there's four different men in the room, and a

1287
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 4: lot of the men who were there just felt like

1288
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 4: these two are getting anywhere. One of the things that

1289
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 4: was talked about is did you guys get a sense

1290
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 4: of what people are saying? And it's that these are

1291
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 4: two theories and I want you to to tell me

1292
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 4: your thoughts on it. Okay, Based on this scene, two

1293
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 4: theories arose on social media. The first theory is the

1294
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 4: form of jealousy. Okay, there's people who believe that Martel

1295
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 4: is jealous of a success that Marceau has accumulated because

1296
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,919
Speaker 4: when he gave him the company, he did not think

1297
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 4: Marceau would do anything with it, and when he sees

1298
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 4: Marceau excelling, still.

1299
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: Being married, having the family, having the job.

1300
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 4: There are people on social media who feels like the

1301
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 4: basis of that scene that we saw was because they

1302
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 4: felt like Martel is shocked that Marceau has made something

1303
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 4: out of the company that he gave them.

1304
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 6: I would say that, and like, listen, I'm not saying

1305
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 6: the other guys are innocent. They very well may have

1306
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 6: all done stuff right, and Marteau probably has some real

1307
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 6: tea on them, because that's what happens when you're in

1308
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 6: a friend circle. You guys do dirt together, right, But

1309
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 6: he didn't have the same The other guys didn't have

1310
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 6: the same consequences as Martel did. Martel has been on blast.

1311
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 6: We all know him to be the cheat of the narcissist,

1312
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 6: so he's probably like, damn we always getting grinme me,

1313
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 6: Why am I the only one getting single?

1314
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 7: Though, So he's paying.

1315
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: Them back Like that was just and not to cut

1316
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: you off, just to talk about it. That was theory

1317
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: number two how people felt.

1318
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he wants like it's like we rob the

1319
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 6: three of us go rob a bank together, right, and Carlos,

1320
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 6: you're the only one that really gets caught. But we

1321
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 6: all did it together, kind of like Phaedra and Angelo,

1322
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 6: sant and Apollo, but really like all of them didn't

1323
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 6: really get the same punishment, you know, so you would

1324
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 6: feel a way if you're the one that actually served

1325
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 6: the time and the other people didn't, you'd be like, nah, man,

1326
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 6: y'all guilty too.

1327
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 7: And I hate that no one's seeing it. And I

1328
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 7: think that's what he's feeling.

1329
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 6: If I had to like psychoanalyze with my limited you know, well,

1330
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 6: with my college education, I think that's what it is.

1331
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 6: He hates that the public doesn't see the other guys

1332
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 6: like they see him, That's what I think. And I

1333
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 6: think he wants them to get more dirt on them too.

1334
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 3: He almost feels like, I agree. I agree with Claudia

1335
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 3: one hundred percent.

1336
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 5: And listen, anybody would feel burdened right by the responsibility

1337
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 5: of carrying that title, right when people know the dirt

1338
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 5: you've done and know something that you're not proud of.

1339
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1340
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 5: We saw his marriage implo, we know why, and a

1341
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 5: lot of people have strong opinions. Audience is very passionate.

1342
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 5: The opinions get passionate. They take it very, very far

1343
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 5: beyond the television screen. And so I'm sure that Martel

1344
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 5: faced a lot of you know, hard shit about what

1345
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 5: he did. But to me, if you're a person who

1346
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 5: is facing your truth or whatever. If this other person

1347
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 5: is not involved in what you had going on, it's

1348
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 5: very immature to me to say, well, well, but.

1349
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 3: Look at what he did.

1350
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 5: Look at what he did with her that I knew

1351
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 5: and didn't tell nobody because he did that with them,

1352
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 5: so be mad at them too. That's immaturity personified. And

1353
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 5: so I don't care about the accusations that he sends

1354
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 5: their way. Latissa Scott and Marceaul can work that out

1355
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 5: on their own time and whatever. They seem to have

1356
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 5: it figured out according to whatever, feel how you want

1357
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 5: to feel about their marriage. But to me, it's lame

1358
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 5: as hell to be dragging other people's stuff that doesn't

1359
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 5: have anything to do with your situation into the forefront

1360
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 5: when you simply don't want to face accountability, tired of

1361
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 5: people telling you you're a bad person, which anybody would be,

1362
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 5: but that doesn't give you license then to go try

1363
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 5: to bring other people in there, bullshit that has nothing

1364
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 5: to do with what you have going on, what you're

1365
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 5: being held to the fire for, so to speak, into

1366
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 5: the fold. It's just an immature take at the end

1367
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 5: of the day, and that's why it doesn't make It

1368
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 5: doesn't win him any points. To say, Okay, well they

1369
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 5: was cheating with him too, so and I knew about it,

1370
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 5: so now you know what I'm saying, Like, So what,

1371
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 5: my nigga, you just you look even worse.

1372
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 3: Like you look even worse in that situation. So That's

1373
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 3: where I'm at with it.

1374
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 6: Carlos, as your producer with your producer hat on, well

1375
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 6: execut producer, show creator, do you think that if Martel

1376
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 6: would just like stand on it right, regardless of what

1377
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 6: the other what the smoke the other guys are or

1378
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 6: are not getting, if he would have earlier on in

1379
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 6: his career said I messed up. I'm going to take

1380
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 6: accountability for what I did and be a change man.

1381
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 6: I think he would go from being the least the

1382
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 6: most hated to the most love. He's an attractive man,

1383
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 6: he is charismatic, he's fun to look at, but like

1384
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 6: I think that's the thing that holds him back is

1385
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 6: that he refuses and then he goes petty. I think

1386
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 6: it would make him look like a grown man. Do

1387
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 6: you think he's capable of doing that? Well?

1388
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 1: I think this, I think based on the earlier season.

1389
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 4: Dustin you, I would love to hear your thoughts too,

1390
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 4: because you watch it since then, the infidelity that happened

1391
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 4: in their marriage was discussed episode one.

1392
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: I've Seenzon one, Claudia.

1393
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 4: It was it was out the gate, and by episode

1394
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 4: three is when he revealed to his boys at the

1395
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 4: time it was Mark Tello Marie that he did Steposts

1396
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 4: out of his marriage. So it wasn't anything that wasn't

1397
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 4: kept a secret like like like it was since episode one.

1398
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 4: It was out there that they had, you know, the

1399
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 4: infidelity happened. I think what's happening is it's been this

1400
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 4: sort of accusations flying right from everybody involved. And what

1401
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 4: people don't understand, and that's why they'll always ask me

1402
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 4: questions and I always tell them those three couples were

1403
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 4: friends for six years before I even stepped in the picture.

1404
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 4: They have a history of friendship, and Clauda is its

1405
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 4: equivalent to if I came in and you and any

1406
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 4: have an issue and then all of a sudden people

1407
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 4: are like, well, Carlos is about that. I'm like, they've

1408
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,799
Speaker 4: been friends for decades. Yeah, we would have to spend

1409
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 4: thirty years telling that story. And one thing that I

1410
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 4: will say, and I've even said this on the air

1411
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 4: at the reunion and I stand on this till this day.

1412
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: I think all of them know way more about each

1413
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: other than they have sat on the show. And I

1414
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: know that I know that may sound weird to a

1415
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 1: lot of people.

1416
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 4: I I strongly believe in my heart of hearts that yes,

1417
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 4: thing's got messy, a lot of a lot of stuff.

1418
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: I've been said that it's abhor it.

1419
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 4: I still believe there's a lot of stuff that have

1420
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 4: yet to be said, because I do feel like, in

1421
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 4: some strange way I get an audience, there is still

1422
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 4: this fine line of.

1423
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: What not to cross. If that makes no sense, right,

1424
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, you keep the line has been crossed.

1425
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if we're sitting here, I'm with my

1426
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 3: wife and you say that it took me, I'm not

1427
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 3: gonna go.

1428
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 5: We're not gonna get too deep in the minutia of

1429
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 5: all this. Yeah, but yes, I do believe a line

1430
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 5: has been crossed at this point. I think that that's

1431
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 5: why Marceau's take was so final on it. Marceaul was like,

1432
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 5: I don't need no apology, I don't need nothing from you.

1433
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 5: I'm not interested in resolved. You just stay in your space.

1434
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 5: I stay in mind. He wasn't interested in because he

1435
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 5: said that he felt like Tell was going to repeat

1436
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 5: the behavior, and based on what we've seen, he has now. Listen,

1437
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 5: Martell is not the first person that made a mistake

1438
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 5: and stepped out of their marriage or repeated a mistake

1439
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 5: and did that.

1440
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 3: But after that, we've seen him literally be nasty.

1441
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,440
Speaker 5: We've seen him go low, We've seen him run from accountability,

1442
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 5: and all of these things that compile ill two us

1443
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,799
Speaker 5: not having a trust with him as an audience.

1444
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1445
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 5: When we watched the show, Martell had opportunity after opportunity

1446
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 5: and continues to have opportunity because he hasn't done it yet. Right,

1447
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 5: He continues to have an opportunity to kind of reroute

1448
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 5: and change his approach to everything that we've been exposed

1449
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 5: to about his very personal.

1450
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 3: Business, right, but he won't do that.

1451
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:44,879
Speaker 5: Instead, he chooses to find something else slatious to introduce,

1452
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 5: or find something else to try to expose, or he's

1453
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 5: pointing at everybody but himself.

1454
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 3: And that's what we're getting on the screen.

1455
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 5: And that's why I think it's hard for some people,

1456
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 5: because I'm sure he got people that connect with him

1457
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 5: and want to see him win, like we all do.

1458
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 5: I don't want to see nothing bad happen to Martell,

1459
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 5: but he don't want to see nothing good happen to

1460
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 5: himself based on what the fuck we're seeing on the show.

1461
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 5: And that's where the challenge comes in. So I think, yes, Claudia,

1462
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 5: to your point earlier. I think if he had stood

1463
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 5: in it and been like, I made a mistake and

1464
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,600
Speaker 5: I feel bad about that, but motherfucker you're wrong for this,

1465
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 5: Da da da, I think people would have a totally

1466
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 5: different reception from him. It's all this stuff, and then

1467
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 5: we're exposed to stuff that goes on outside of the show,

1468
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 5: and all this shit. It's hard to kind of see

1469
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 5: him as a person who is even seeking that sort

1470
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 5: of redemption for his image or for what people think

1471
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 5: about his character. We don't even know if he wants it.

1472
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 6: M M. I don't think he does. I think he's

1473
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 6: you know, you know, when you have an argument with

1474
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 6: someone or you have an issue with like someone you're dating,

1475
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 6: our friend, and you're like, you know, I have to

1476
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 6: tell you something about something that you said that bothers me,

1477
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 6: and you want them to hear you and receive it.

1478
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 6: Process it and then you know, and instead of them

1479
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 6: listening to you as soon as you're done talking to go,

1480
01:13:58,479 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 6: but you did this to me, and you're like, wait, wait,

1481
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 6: let's let's start with what you did first, and then

1482
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 6: we'll get to that. And you never get any result

1483
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 6: with those kinds of contents. Because I'm not saying that

1484
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 6: that everybody else is innocent. I'm not saying that Martell

1485
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 6: is the only bad guy here, the only one that.

1486
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that, but the way his approach to

1487
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 6: it makes it hard to empathize for him or sympathize

1488
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 6: sympathize for him when and now we're not talking about

1489
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 6: what Marceau may have done because we're just stuck on

1490
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 6: what Martell did because of how he responds. It's like, yeah,

1491
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 6: because the co Saw comment was kind of that was

1492
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 6: kind of a little sague, wasn't it.

1493
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 7: The co saw side the side thing he said he wanted.

1494
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 5: To he went and he said it too. He said

1495
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 5: it in the scene. I'm saying, it's a rattle this cage.

1496
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 5: He said it, you know what I'm saying. I think

1497
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 5: that's the difference you see when Marcel does when Marcel,

1498
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 5: when Martel does and says things he says, He just

1499
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 5: says them and tries to divert the attention.

1500
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 3: At least. Marceau is like, yeah, I'm saying it to

1501
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 3: funk with him.

1502
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.

1503
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1504
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, like I said no.

1505
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,560
Speaker 4: And that's the thing, and that's the reason why you know,

1506
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 4: when you watch the scene isn't going anywhere because it

1507
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 4: was digs after digs, and when your intention is to

1508
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 4: just throw out the worst dig to one up each other,

1509
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 4: it's hard to listen to each other.

1510
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: And that's why next week they are going to.

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Speaker 4: Have a one on one sit down without anybody to

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Speaker 4: really see if they're able to come to an agreement

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Speaker 4: of how to move forward in all of this, because

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Speaker 4: it did get to a point where they just weren't

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Speaker 4: hearing each other and and and that goes to show

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Speaker 4: you that is because look, they're hurt, and it's it's

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Speaker 4: it's it's it's evident.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens next week.

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Speaker 4: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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Speaker 4: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with The Lack

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Speaker 4: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube

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Speaker 4: channel at Big Carlos King Underscore.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening and celebrating five years of the Black

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Speaker 2: Effect podcast network with us. Keep following because the next

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Speaker 2: five years are about to be even bigger