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Speaker 1: Rams beat the Bears twenty to seventeen in overtime.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford twenty and forty two, two fifty eight, no

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Speaker 2: touchdowns nor in receptions.

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Speaker 1: He was sacked four times.

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Speaker 2: Kyrin Williams random ball, extremely hard, twenty one carries eighty

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Speaker 2: seven yards, two touchdowns, thirty one rush attempts one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eleven yards, two touchdowns. Kobe Parkinson with their lead,

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Speaker 2: Well he called three for fifty six. Boo could have

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Speaker 2: five for fifty six. Jordan Winnington have thirty five. Davanty

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Speaker 2: had a big catch on that last drive. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: was nicetament field goal range. Yeah, see dove kayleb Willis

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Speaker 2: with another unbelievable throw.

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Speaker 1: Oh I don't know, I don't know how.

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Speaker 3: Yes, again, that's two. That's two. Listen, that's two weeks

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Speaker 3: in a row.

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Speaker 2: Two things can be sir, Yes, the ball was misplayed,

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Speaker 2: But to say that wasn't a hell of a throw,

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Speaker 2: you're just you're just being disingenuous. I mean you have

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Speaker 2: to keep retreating with four guys in his face and

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Speaker 2: throw off his back foot.

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Speaker 4: And then most of the money, Yeah, and most of

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Speaker 4: the time, I say most of the time. As a quarterback,

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Speaker 4: once you're retreating backwards and you have pressure coming at you,

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Speaker 4: that obviously that the ball tends to fall actually short

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Speaker 4: and it's an interception.

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Speaker 3: Yes, most of the time, because you are retreating and you.

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Speaker 4: Have pressure in your face, you're not able to get

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Speaker 4: the kind of strength you want to on the ball.

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Speaker 4: But listen, Kaitlyn Williams is up there when it comes

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Speaker 4: to having an arm talent and arm strength. I'm not

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Speaker 4: calling him Aaron Rodgers. I'm not saying he Brett fav

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's Matthew Stafford. But in conditions like

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Speaker 4: the night, he can still make all the throws they can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think his ability to throw on the

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Speaker 2: move is kind of what separates him because if you

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Speaker 2: really just watch him, he's more accurate on the move

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Speaker 2: than he is in the pocket. Yeah, I mean he

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Speaker 2: could row. And the thing is, O Joe. If you

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Speaker 2: notice a lot of his throws he's rolling to his left.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like you always try to force a guy

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Speaker 2: to his non dominant hand. Yeah, which is the right

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Speaker 2: handed quarterback, you force him left. A left handed quarterback,

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Speaker 2: you force him right. But if you look at his

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Speaker 2: best throws, he is rolling left left. Yeah, he feels

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Speaker 2: very comfortable you putting him in that situation. And by design,

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Speaker 2: it's hard for you to imagine. Man, he right handed,

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Speaker 2: let's push him right, I mean, let's push him left.

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Speaker 2: You push it in kind of where you want to be.

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Speaker 2: He made some throws tonight. He turned the ball over

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Speaker 2: a three interceptions.

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Speaker 1: Chat.

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Speaker 2: Look at the story. How many turnover for Buffalo they lost?

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Speaker 2: How many turnover for the forty nine ers they lost?

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Speaker 2: How many turnovers for the Texans they lost? How many

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Speaker 2: turnover for the Bears they lost? Yeah, you see a

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Speaker 2: real current thing.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a common denominator, Uncle.

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Speaker 4: You said it all the time, especially when it comes

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Speaker 4: to playoff football, where points at a premium. Every series

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Speaker 4: that you have the ball matters, and in games like this,

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Speaker 4: when it's so close, the margin of error is so

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Speaker 4: small when you turn it over.

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Speaker 3: Three times, it's hard to overcome that.

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Speaker 4: Even though the Bears had opportunity on that last drive,

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure with it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it was a miscommunication.

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Speaker 4: Between Kayler Williams and DJ Moore, and I mean, I

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Speaker 4: don't know what happened on that intersection.

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Speaker 2: You gotta keep running, you can't stop, even though if

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Speaker 2: you can't catch it, you probably you might be able

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Speaker 2: to knock it down that situation right there, Oh Joe,

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Speaker 2: they've already had a possession. You not have a possession.

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Speaker 2: If you turn this ball over, next possession wins. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Win, basically.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's that's why you got to keep running

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Speaker 2: because he's tharted with the anticipation that you will continue

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Speaker 2: to run. And if you don't catch it, you just

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Speaker 2: make sure he doesn't catch it. Just give me another chance, Ojo,

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Speaker 2: Just give me another chance. If I'm not mistaken. I

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Speaker 2: think that was second down. With that second down to

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Speaker 1: And if it was third down, allowed me to punt

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh, I mean they I mean those and

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Speaker 2: in those conditions guys were catching the ball extremely well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those yeah, they were.

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Speaker 4: They were listen, the dbs were catching the ball better

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Speaker 4: than the goddamn receivers because there are a lot there

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Speaker 4: are a lot of drops. There were a lot of

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Speaker 3: But I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 4: I think uh ro Room had some yeah loveling, you know,

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Speaker 4: he had some some balls that were catchable.

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Speaker 3: You know they were right there.

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Speaker 4: But obviously, even with the conditions, you got to focus

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Speaker 4: a little bit more. You know, uh, practice bringing the

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Speaker 4: ball in and listen. I'm used to playing conditions like

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Speaker 4: this all the time, especially once you get to November December.

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Speaker 3: You know, everything has to change. Your mechanics.

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Speaker 4: You you being able to focus on the ball a

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Speaker 4: little bit more, bringing it in, making sure.

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Speaker 3: You got it and uh, that ball a.

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Speaker 1: Heavy. That's a hard man.

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Speaker 3: It's hard and heavy. Boy.

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Speaker 4: I just got get ready to say that in the fact,

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Speaker 4: Hey Stafford and god damn Caleb throwing it like it's nothing.

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Speaker 2: That's why you kind of got You want guys with

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Speaker 2: arm talent like that on your that can cut through

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Speaker 2: the elements. Yes, because you know in Chicago it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be winded, and you also outside in Green Bay. So

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Speaker 2: if your home game is in the Midwest, so you

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Speaker 2: play Kansas City. So let's just say your home, your

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Speaker 2: Kansas City, your Chicago.

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Speaker 1: You're Green Bay, or.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be in the northeast where you're New England,

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Speaker 2: or you're the Jazz, You're the giant. Oh Joe, you

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Speaker 2: gotta have a guy that can cut through the wind,

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Speaker 2: cause it's gonna get windy, it's gonna get cold. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna probably have to play sometime in clement weather, be

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Speaker 2: it rained, snowsleek win.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why this happened.

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Speaker 2: It always happened like this as soon as I start

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Speaker 2: to come on there now so that I can't stop coughing.

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Speaker 4: But you sure everything good over there?

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Speaker 1: Everything is good. You see, I can't stop coughing.

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Speaker 2: But uh, I'm looking at the rams defense. Oh yo,

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Speaker 2: why y'all keep crashing and letting the man get.

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Speaker 1: The edge outside? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, every time, Damn, every time.

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Speaker 2: Y'all crashing down hard. He's a mobile quarterback. You can't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got you got to stay just then.

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Speaker 1: Oh there you go.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jordan's but that life, so I do something

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Speaker 2: going on.

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Speaker 3: I was like, damn, i's.

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Speaker 1: Still lights off.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we got we got some lights off.

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Speaker 1: There? You go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me get let me get that because here,

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, there ain't no reason to be coughing

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Speaker 3: What chat?

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Speaker 4: How y'all doing tonight, y'all y'all good hope, y'all having

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Speaker 4: a good uh hope, have y'all having a good weekend.

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Speaker 4: Y'all shouldn't have to work tomorrow. If you have to

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Speaker 4: work tomorrow, you need to think about changing, you know, job.

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Speaker 4: Outside of that, we're gonna were gonna have a good

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Speaker 4: time tonight. It won't going to going to the holiday

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Speaker 4: tomorrow celebrating you know exactly what it is.

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Speaker 2: God damn, But I thought, huh, I thought the Rams

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Speaker 2: defense allowed him to get to the edge entirely too much.

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Speaker 2: You have to understand, you have to you have to contain.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. See, this is what

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm just I'm just making sure I don't want no,

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Speaker 3: I don't want nothing. You got coming over across.

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Speaker 1: A bunch.

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Speaker 5: You.

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Speaker 3: Hey, if I'm the eater, you don't see me coughing?

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Speaker 1: Ever? Oh yeah, yes I did, Yes, I did.

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Speaker 2: You Remember when man, I had to I had to

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Speaker 2: call hands mad up in and clean every satura tie everything,

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Speaker 2: but they get the win. Look, I thought this, this

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Speaker 2: win was probably very satisfied for Sean McVay, considering how

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson ran on the field against Green Bay and

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Speaker 2: shut and shut Matt Lafleur's head. Yes, Matt lafloor and

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Speaker 2: shot and Matt are best friends. He didn't take too

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Speaker 2: kind of Oh no, yeah, yeah, yeah no, he didn't

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Speaker 4: You know what, if you're a Bears fan of you

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Speaker 4: have no reason to let your head down. You have

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Speaker 4: no reason to be sad. Obviously sad because you want

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Speaker 4: to be in the in the NFC Championship game. Obviously

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Speaker 4: you want a chance of going.

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Speaker 3: To to compete for Lombardi.

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Speaker 4: But your future is very bright because that God damn

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Speaker 4: Ben Johnson and Kayler Williams. As long as they're there,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna be in contingent every single year. And now

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Speaker 4: the EFC, the NFC, that division in general looks different

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Speaker 4: now because of your quarterback and your head coach. And

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be it's gonna be like that for a

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Speaker 4: very very long time.

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Speaker 2: Well, if Minnesota wants to, don't, if Minnesota doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to get left behind, they better get a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: They left behind already.

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Speaker 4: They are left behind already, because now who are you

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Speaker 4: going to find that that's going to be the type

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Speaker 4: of talent or equal to that of God Damn Caleb

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Speaker 4: Williams or Jordan love Well.

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Speaker 1: Hey find a Jared golf. Well, you had Sam Donald.

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Speaker 4: You let him walk, You let it walk out because

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Speaker 4: you thought your number eighty pick was the answer and

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Speaker 4: and you found out quick not only is he not

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Speaker 4: the answer, but it's hard to keep his ass on

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Speaker 4: the goddamn feel too.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I totally agree with everything you just said.

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Speaker 2: But when you the Rams have to feel very good. Look,

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Speaker 2: we got an epic game. We got an epic matchup

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Speaker 2: one Thursday night, o Jo. It was a It was

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Speaker 2: an unbelievable game. If we get anything close to that,

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Speaker 2: I'll take it. As a matter of fact, I'll take

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Speaker 2: a second helping of that because that was a phenomenal game.

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Speaker 1: Uh hope.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if the Rams to fix their special team

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Speaker 2: because remember Rashid Rashid Shaheed got it started. Yeah again,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've never seen a game a game winning

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Speaker 2: play the first minute of the game, but Rashid, he

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Speaker 2: took that play, that kick come back.

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Speaker 1: The game was over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, taking away a take take the win right up

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Speaker 4: out of yourself over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was over. It was over. But this was

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Speaker 2: a good This was a good game. This is what

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Speaker 2: the game is supposed to be. Two very evenly matched teams,

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Speaker 1: Uh, Caleb looked good. I agree with you, o Jo.

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Speaker 2: I think with the talent that they surrounded him, with

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Speaker 2: look at them offense, and they got Loveland, they got more,

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Speaker 2: they got a Doomsay, they got Commet, they got Burt

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Speaker 1: Uh. They they they they're loaded. Man. Yeah, I like

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Speaker 3: What is mother guy manonge manangang.

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Speaker 2: Manogie mo NANGI manogi Yeah him hey he rubbed, Hey,

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Speaker 2: he'd be running people over.

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Speaker 4: You know, you don't play, he don't go, Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, he running behind his path you know we usual, hey,

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Speaker 2: But I thought Swift ran the ball really hard tonight. Yes,

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Speaker 2: but they turned up when they turned the ball over

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Speaker 2: down inside. You know, zi o Joe pass gave up

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Speaker 2: those points. Now that game when it touched down, you

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Analytics is running the game instead of instead of coaches

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Speaker 3: You lead points on the field, on the points on

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Speaker 4: Going for it on fourth down, I mean were they

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Speaker 1: But they do it all the time. Oh Joe, oh Joe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we go for it once. I mean we might go.

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Speaker 2: We might have on fourth down, especially if we're losing. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we get you going for it, but man o Jo,

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Speaker 2: the bands went for it six times.

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Speaker 1: You might have.

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Speaker 2: You might have in a situation where you're not losing.

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Speaker 2: We might have maybe five in the season.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh.

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Speaker 2: Now these teams have like ten, fifteen, twenty fourth down going.

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Speaker 4: For it, and you got to understand why they're going

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Speaker 4: for it too. You understand the probable cause if you

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Speaker 3: So I kind of understand it.

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Speaker 3: But when you don't make it, that's the problem.

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Speaker 4: Now you put your guydamn defense in harm's way and

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Speaker 2: I'm confused. I need you to help me out on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, same way, but they gave him the catch, they did.

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Speaker 3: They gave him the catch.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously his knee was down with hell when Brandon,

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Speaker 4: knee was also down as well.

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Speaker 1: I guess this.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's confusing.

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Speaker 4: There's no consistency when it comes to calling those I

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Speaker 4: call them bang bang plays. Yeah, the receiver's catching the

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Speaker 3: But Davante let the ball.

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Speaker 4: Oh so I'm assuming that should have been what maybe

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Speaker 3: Or in completed something in completed.

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Speaker 4: Based on our logic and reasoning from last night.

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Speaker 2: Well, it couldn't have been incomplete because the guy caught

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Speaker 1: So it's either fumble or interception.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one or the other.

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Speaker 2: But I was surprised. I was surprised because I'm looking

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Speaker 2: because I look a very similar play play. Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 2: You know last time he was in the NFC Championship

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Speaker 2: Well that was just the uh.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles.

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Speaker 2: That's what they lost. They lost last year to the

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Speaker 2: I thought, look for a guy that's played in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I meant he played.

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Speaker 2: Really well against You said it, you said, hey, last year, Well,

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Speaker 2: last year he was dealing.

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Speaker 3: He was dealing. Boy, he's dealing. And he came.

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Speaker 4: He came one back show to pass away from beating

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, when you have that kind of

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Speaker 3: I get the.

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Speaker 1: Ball to you, I get I'll definitely make it happen. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But the.

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Rams move on. That played their division nemesis,

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Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks twenty to seventeen. They're very familiar. This

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Speaker 2: They want to run the football with a walker the

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Speaker 2: third and Charbenoa is.

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Speaker 3: Charbono good and charping O good. Because then he left

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Speaker 3: he was nick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he got nick, didn't it? Never?

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Speaker 2: Maybe somebody up from the practice squad if I think

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Speaker 2: I read that O yoe. But look Dway Kenn's walker running.

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Speaker 2: We just keep running him and you know those wires

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Speaker 2: JSN now.

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Speaker 1: Cooper cup Cup, Yeah, he makes some big catches yesterday

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Speaker 1: on third down. Now, you're just hoping that Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: He turned the ball over, you're not going You're not

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Speaker 2: So I'm just letting you guys know, just hope Sam

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Speaker 1: I don't think he turned it over in that last.

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Speaker 2: Regular season that last regular season game against the the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers, they got forty nine ers a game.

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Speaker 2: He didn't turn it over. He needs to, he needs

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Speaker 2: to repeat that song. Just play that this replay, Just

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Speaker 2: put that on replay, repeat, and keep playing it over

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Speaker 2: there's an excellent chance that you're gonna go to the

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Speaker 2: NF that the Super Bowl. According to the NBC sideline

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Speaker 2: reporter Melissa start Rams, players was putting cayenne pepper in

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Speaker 4: Hold on, kyne pepper. What the hell cayenne pepper gonna

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Speaker 1: Still pepper? It heats up?

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Speaker 4: Boy, unk, that's the new one that boy, I ain't

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Speaker 4: never heard it. I ain't never heard of that one.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you put a what you icy hot? Being gay?

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Speaker 2: Now many they used to put that in people's job

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Speaker 2: and when you start sweating, what it do?

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Speaker 3: Oh you hear?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I ain't never use that before. The only thing I

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Speaker 3: and I ain't have those either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the only thing I know about.

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Speaker 1: And I used to.

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Speaker 4: I used to take the hand woman's once it got cold, unk,

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Speaker 4: I take one, break it up, let it get warm,

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Speaker 4: and I put it on the inside of my gloves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I put on I could I have.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they called time out or I went

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Speaker 1: But I didn't have no pouch. I ain't need none

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Speaker 3: Oh well look at you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, No, no pouch. The last time the Rams won

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, Cooper Cup was the MVP. Next week,

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Speaker 1: Look, he knows this offense.

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Speaker 2: He knows that when they're getting certain firmations and you

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Speaker 2: much they rely on that. The film study normally tells

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Speaker 2: you maybe he can give him some intricate season, like

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Speaker 2: when you hear certain calls on your this is what

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Speaker 2: Rebau Bro, I know what Lucy is, and I know

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Speaker 2: what Slugo is, and I know what all that. I

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Speaker 2: I know we knew all that, and we know we

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Speaker 2: So yeah, get that mess out here.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots beat the Texas.

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Speaker 2: By the score of twenty eight to sixteen to reach

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Speaker 2: the AFC Championship Game. New England earned their first AFC

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It always comes down to, you know, Peyton and Tom. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the victor Chiefs alive a fifteen year street whether. Every

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Speaker 2: AFC title game since twenty eleven has featured either the

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Speaker 2: over the Jets in twenty ten.

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Speaker 1: C J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud had arguably his worst game of his three year career,

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Speaker 1: C J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud passer rating was twenty eight o JO. If he

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Speaker 2: thirty nine point six.

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Speaker 3: Hey, yep, that was embarrassing. That was embarrassing.

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Speaker 4: You can't you can't do You got the best defense

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Speaker 3: You got the best defense in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: You got away with it last week, and you watch

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00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 4: film all week. All right, I can't go into this game.

447
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,120
Speaker 4: I understand the importance of this game. I can't do

448
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,160
Speaker 4: one thing. I can't put the ball in harm's way.

449
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 4: I can't turn them all over.

450
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 3: I just can't.

451
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 4: And the watch film to understand that you got by

452
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 4: by the grace of God, and you come back in

453
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 4: this game and you.

454
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 3: Still do come on nine.

455
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 4: You got the best defense that can take you all

456
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 4: the way to Santa Clara. All I have to do

457
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 4: is the quarterback of this team is don't put the

458
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 4: ball in harm's way.

459
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: Don't turn it over.

460
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 3: That's it. I mean, it sounds easy, obviously sitting here

461
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,160
Speaker 3: on the goddamn you know.

462
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: No, it's not.

463
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 2: But I would have thought he learned his lesson Monday night.

464
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, we talked about it. We talked about it.

465
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 2: Oh Joe. He fumbled four times, he got they got

466
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 2: two of them back. Yeah, So he had two fumbles

467
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: and two picks right, or would he have two thumbles

468
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: in one pick?

469
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: What do you have on Monday?

470
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 2: But he got seven turnovers in two games, O Joe,

471
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 2: this is what Troy Aikman said on the broadcast. C J.

472
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 2: Stroud has been chasing his rookie success for the last

473
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 2: two years. He's not been the same player. We've not

474
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 2: seen the development from him. There's a reason for that

475
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 2: and it needs to be addressed now. When Shannon said

476
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: c J. Stroud has not been the same since his

477
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 2: rookie year, what they say, Oh Joe, go ahead and

478
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 2: tell them because they what they say. What they say

479
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: about when when when I say has not.

480
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 4: Been the same, they say you hate not They said

481
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 4: you hating?

482
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: Where's that energy for the white quarterback? Now what y'all

483
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: say about Troy? Maybe because Troy played the quarterback position

484
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: and I give you know what, I give you that right,

485
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 2: he played at an elite level. The guy with a

486
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP led a team to three Super Bowls.

487
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 2: So if you want to say what Troy know more

488
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 2: about that position, I'll conceive that. But all he said

489
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: was the same exact same thing that I said. It

490
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 2: was just a different voice.

491
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: You see. C j Stroud. He got intoxicated by the

492
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: success that he had. Listen at him talk.

493
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 2: He this man said his rookie season, he was one

494
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 2: of the five best quarterbacks in the NFL as a rookie.

495
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 2: He was going on everybody platform. He that guy, He

496
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: that guy, and he's regressed every year. But y'all don't

497
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: want to have real conversations. Y'all want y'all want us before, Well,

498
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: you wanted guys like oh Joy and myself, Guys that

499
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: played the game, guys that played the game at a

500
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: new level. But then when we tell you the hardest truth, well,

501
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: the word that energy. I said something today on y'all

502
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: say think about this, Think about I say, Chap, think

503
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: about this. If we want to debate Peyton and Tom

504
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: Joe Montana and Patrick Mahomes, Okay, we could critique that.

505
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: I say, think about this. Here y'all talking about Josh

506
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: Allen and Lamar Jackson. Neither guy has won a championship,

507
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 2: and now we're debating who's turned the ball over the

508
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: most in the playoff game. Let that think in something

509
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: we've never done before. We're not talking about championships where

510
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 2: we could compare. You want to compare Lebron where Lebron

511
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: got four championships, Kobe got five. Lebron got four MVPs

512
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: Kobe got won. Lebron got four finals MVPs Kobe got two.

513
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: Kobe's been in nineteen nineteen All Star Lebron has twenty

514
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: one All Star Game MVP.

515
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: If you want to debate that, we can have a conversation.

516
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: But since when do we debate guys that don't have

517
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: a championship. We start basing, We start picking apart with

518
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 2: one turned them all over fourth to have the other

519
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 2: guy turned it over three. One guy turned over three,

520
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 2: the other guy turned over two. When did we start

521
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: doing that? Ojoe?

522
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 4: Because there's nothing, there's nothing else to talk about. You

523
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 4: have to pull something out the air to to to

524
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 4: create dialogue, to to tell the difference between two quarterbacks

525
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 4: that haven't won a championship yet.

526
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 3: Not back to the C. Stroud thing.

527
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 4: I want to have a better understanding on why he's

528
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 4: regressing the way he is. Is it the coaching is

529
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 4: is oc is gone? I mean from his rookie year,

530
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 4: what what can it be? What is the issue behind it?

531
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 4: Because he has a talent around him, Yes, he has

532
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 4: a great supporting cast around him offensively, where the struggles

533
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 4: that he's having, he shouldn't be having them. One of

534
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: the best chances as far as that window for them

535
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 4: and having an opportunity to compete for Lombardi Trophy was

536
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,239
Speaker 4: this year.

537
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: Having the defense that they do have.

538
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: Yes, this was this was the year.

539
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 4: Yes, I just I just don't understand it. He's been

540
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 4: very inconsistent. He's been you know, up and down. He

541
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 4: has good games and he have a string that are bad.

542
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: It had you leave you scratch your head. Based on

543
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 4: on the standard in which he set from his rookie season,

544
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 4: you expect him to continue to get better and.

545
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: Keep chopping wood, keep chopping wood.

546
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 4: Sophomore year, Okay, it's a little shaky, Okay, we can

547
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 4: live with that. We know, going into your third year,

548
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 4: maybe things can continue to get better and you build

549
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: off some of some of the things that you've seen

550
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 4: that have been mistakes. You learn from it and you

551
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 4: don't do them again. But now those those same mistakes

552
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 4: are continuously happen, those same in assessments, those same fumbles.

553
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 4: That clock in your head has to go off sometime

554
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 4: as a quarterback. Understand that when you got to get

555
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 4: rid of the ball normally.

556
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: Is he getting better or if you're talking about getting better,

557
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: because here's the thing. Now, See, it's kind of like

558
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: winking in the dark. You know what you're doing, but

559
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: nobody else does. You can tell us whatever you want

560
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: to tell us. We have no choice but to believe

561
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 2: you because we're not there in your most private moments.

562
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: But that's not what the work says.

563
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 4: But I will say this, I will say this. You

564
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 4: don't get you don't have the success he's had. You

565
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 4: don't get to where he's gotten to and done some

566
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 4: of the things he's done in his career without putting

567
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 4: in the work.

568
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: O jo.

569
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: How many guys got to the NFL. There's been a

570
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 2: lot of guys that had great college careers. We've seen

571
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: a lot of guys have great one years. Yeah, the

572
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: trick is to do, O joe. If you go to

573
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl one time, ma'am, didn't nobody know you

574
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 2: had that in you? But now can you go back again?

575
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: Can you go back again? In?

576
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: Can you go back again? When they build a game

577
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: plan to stop you? O jo? Can you still have success?

578
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so now you have the outstanding rookie season, what

579
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna do by your sophomore year, Yeah, you got

580
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: you gotta keep. What about you junior season?

581
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: You gotta keep.

582
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: Are you gonna talk about it or you're gonna be

583
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: about it?

584
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: Come on now, damn man, hey.

585
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to have you have to have real

586
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: hard conversation about these guys. Like I said, I came

587
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: in the league in nineteen ninety, so that means I've

588
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 2: seen a lot of quarterbacks. I saw my homes, I

589
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: saw Brady, I saw Manny, I saw Rivers, I saw Roethlisberger.

590
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of quarterbacks. I've never ever.

591
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety so that's about thirty seven years of

592
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: being in the NFL in coverage, I've never heard a

593
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback talk as much as this young man did

594
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 2: after success that he enjoyed in one season.

595
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: I've never.

596
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 3: You know, you know, you know, it's funny. So it's hard.

597
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 4: It's hard for me to be able to give my

598
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 4: context and perspective on what he said because most of

599
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 4: the time, the times that I've heard him talk, it's

600
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 4: obviously God fearing God. So I haven't seen or heard

601
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 4: some of the things you might have heard. So It's

602
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 4: hard for me to get my piece on that. But

603
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: I just don't understand with the issue and why is

604
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: as good as he is, as great of a thrower

605
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 4: of the football that he is having Nico Collins and

606
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 4: having some.

607
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: Of the other weapons.

608
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: Well, Nico was out to day, Ojoe.

609
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: I'm just saying in general, yeah, yeah, overall.

610
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he had he go to large one of

611
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: the season.

612
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, during the season. I'm just I just I

613
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 3: don't understand.

614
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying.

615
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe maybe.

616
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 4: Next year, you got Tankedale come back, you got Tank

617
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 4: Tank one hell of a player.

618
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: Uncle.

619
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tank is one hell of a player, and he

620
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: changes it.

621
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: Hopefully he can come back. That was a gruesome injury, ojo.

622
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he hit me back.

623
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: That was a gruesome Ojo. It was.

624
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: It was, but and then it becomes back. It's still

625
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: gonna take another year for him to get his timing

626
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: and his legs. He's been rehabbing all this time. He

627
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: ain't trained.

628
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

629
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: Fuck, I hate my bad. Excuse me, sorry, but you're good.

630
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: I hate I hate stuff like that, just.

631
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 4: Because you understand how that position is scrutinized, yes, general.

632
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: But you also understand why they gets sixty million a year.

633
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: M hmm, come on, now, look at your Brady's, look

634
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: at your Mannings, look at your Jackson's. Lamar Lamar this year,

635
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: I'm a chalcolate of the injury. He was injured, he

636
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: was in and out and when he came back, he

637
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: wasn't the same Lamar. But you go back and look

638
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: at Lamar's track record, Lamar, Lamar's proven commodity.

639
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: You look at it.

640
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: His first year he started like six games, they make

641
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: the playoffs. He come back the next year, he wins

642
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: the MVP. You look at mahon boy and it's maybe

643
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: it's unfair because everybody in their second year, third year

644
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: not winning MVPs. Everybody can't have the lovels success that

645
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson has had. Patrick Mahomes's head Drake may have

646
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: been the running for the m v P uh in

647
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: his second year, could win. I think Matthew Stafford's gonna win.

648
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: The fact that he's in the discussion only in year two. Yes, Now,

649
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: maybe we look at the coordinator who's coaching him. What's

650
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: he teaching him?

651
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: And he is isy?

652
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: Is he processing? Is he's learning what he's being taught?

653
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: Because we've seen coaching matters. We look at mac Jones

654
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: when he had Josh McDaniel, and we look at mac

655
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: Jones when he had the other guys in his ear m.

656
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: We look at capelon Chesson now that he's here with Brabel,

657
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: he looked like a different player than what he was

658
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: with the Jags.

659
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 1: Coaching matters.

660
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: Systems matter, organizations matter, Sam Darnold Tudah, those things matter.

661
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: So I would ask Demiko, look at joll who's coaching him,

662
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: the quarterback who's in his ear ohc he's regressed.

663
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: He has not gotten better. He has not.

664
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: And you cannot convince anybody that's watched him his rookie year,

665
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: it watched him sophomore in junior year that says that CJ.

666
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: Stroud has gotten better at anything than what he was

667
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: as a rookie.

668
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't understand it, you know, from the

669
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: outside looking in, and I'm not in that building. All

670
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 4: I get to see is I get to see the

671
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: finished product like everybody else in the chat. I get

672
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 4: to see him on Sundays obviously playing that position. You

673
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 4: understand the work that has to go in to improve

674
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 4: from your rookie year to your sophomore to your junior year,

675
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: and for some reason things haven't it just it just

676
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: hadn't done that. Now, the one thing that we can

677
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: hoop and hall about is that goddamn defense over there

678
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: in Houston Hunt. That's that's one of the best, if

679
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 4: if not the best, in the NFL outside of the

680
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: goddamned Seahawks and the goddamn Broncos. Can you imagine could

681
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: you imagine understanding I'm just I'm putting myself in C. J.

682
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: Stroud's shoes me having a defense like that.

683
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 4: I ain't got all I got to do. I gotta

684
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 4: mess it up. I mean, if you got it sounds easy,

685
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 4: you know, but obviously, oh man, that's.

686
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: How about just not out Joe? Look at the players

687
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: that he was turning the ball over on though, Oh Joe,

688
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: what was complex? What was complex or overly complicated about that?

689
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: Just don't throw it to the other team, hold on

690
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: to the damn ball.

691
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 4: Mm hm.

692
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: They would have won this game.

693
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: If if the Texans could have got those scooping scores

694
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: like they got against Pittsburgh, they won this game.

695
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they.

696
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: Drake may thumb twice he only lost two, he thought

697
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: be four times. What if one of those or two

698
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: of those they scoop and scores. Like we saw against

699
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh they got a scoop and score and they got

700
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: to pick six.

701
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: Changes everything, It changes everything.

702
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: But when you got a defense like that, you don't

703
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: have to do much. You don't. Ah, he just I

704
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know.

705
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: Maybe he goes to a whitfield, or he go to

706
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: Tom House, or he goes to someone, but whoever is

707
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: in his ear currently, Oh Joe, you can't regress like that.

708
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: You can't.

709
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: Now, I promise you. We gotta have real Oh Joe,

710
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: they having real conversations. Do we extend this guy for

711
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: three hundred million or do we make him play?

712
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 4: Oh?

713
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: Do we just pick up that fifth year option and

714
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: make sure he plays year four three hundred million or

715
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: play out year four and we pick up your five?

716
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: That's that? Oh, that's that's one that I wouldn't want

717
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 3: to be. Nick Carrier.

718
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: You said you want to be a GM. You said

719
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: you want to be Matt Ryan. That's what you said, Chad?

720
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: Did he not say that? Why don't know why the

721
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: Bengals should call me? One of these teams should call me?

722
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: So now here you are You're GM.

723
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: So okay, I'm the gym of the the Houston, Texas

724
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: right now.

725
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: Yes, do I pick up?

726
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: Do I pay c they shroud? What three hundred million?

727
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 4: Three hundred So do I pick up the fifth year

728
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: option and and make improve himself one more year? Yep,

729
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna take option two. I'm gonna pick I'm

730
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: gonna pick up that fifth year. I'm making prove itself

731
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: next year. Yes, and then boom, Okay, you know you're

732
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 4: the future for the next ten years.

733
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 3: I got you. Let's go. I can do that.

734
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean both guys like enough to joint

735
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: for a long time. I mean, o jo.

736
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: If you go back and think about it, Drake may

737
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: got three touchdowns, but to a boot Ta touchdown and

738
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: Stepan Digg, I don't know how to held on to that.

739
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: I still don't know how Stepan Diggs. Stefan Digg was

740
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: looking at the damn head like, how did I how

741
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: did I hold over there? What the hell? Yeah?

742
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: Boota in those in that element, in those elements, he

743
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: caught the ball with one hand against Stingley Junior.

744
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, he had a beat and you know what,

745
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 3: that was great coverage by Singley.

746
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: But great.

747
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 4: A perfect ball placed would be great, great coverage any day. No, absolutely,

748
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 4: that was perfect perfect ball placement.

749
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody a perfect shot beats up beats some perfect defense.

750
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: I don't care how Oh you see, we've seen Covid

751
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: and Steph and Lebron and Jordan, all these guys the defender.

752
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: I mean, bro, how you how first of all, how

753
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: you kd how you even see the basket? We watched Steph?

754
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: Oh ya, we watched Steph last year at the Olympics. Yeah,

755
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: I mean twenty four Olympics. And you're like, hold on,

756
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 2: wait a minute, but two and these guys are basically

757
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: in this job. Bro, how you making shots some thirty

758
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 2: five like that? Like it ain't nothing, Ain't nothing you

759
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: could do. We've seen the hottest hitters and a pitch company.

760
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: The perfect placement ain't nothing you could do. That was

761
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: a perfect throw boot tape. How he survived, Oh guess what,

762
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: he caught the ball. He survived the contact from the

763
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: ground and got.

764
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: Up with it.

765
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: That is a catch. Yeah, but.

766
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: This defense at some point in time, Oh Joe, you

767
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 2: can't pay everybody on that defense. Now, Oh, will Landerson

768
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: Junior contracts, So what you're gonna do with him.

769
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: Hold on, and that's what I'm giving the.

770
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: Three times I think he's gonna do what three Pro bowls? Yes?

771
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 4: Uh?

772
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: Two or three Pro bowls? He's all Pro this year.

773
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: He's gonna be probably a top twenty of the top

774
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: one hundred players. He's probably gonna be in the top twenty. Okay, CJ,

775
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: if you get CJ three hundred. Oh, you just saw

776
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: what a Miles Garrett got. You just saw what Michael

777
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: Parkson's got, and he yelled at Michael Parson's So you're

778
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: gonna have to be looking at it to give him

779
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: one ninety two hundred. You just paid Stingley, and you

780
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: paid the other guy a last of the on the

781
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: other side, Petrie.

782
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, no, last of the Petrie bullet. Hey, this

783
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: was the year Many. They got a squad man. They

784
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: got them Shaziir Shazier is up or he's still.

785
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: He got I think might be up to Oh they

786
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: got a squad man.

787
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 3: Yes, this was their year.

788
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: Boy.

789
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: Look, they've taken care of They've taken care of shows.

790
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:37,479
Speaker 2: They've taken care of of Nico. Huh Stingley? They last,

791
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 2: didn't they take care of Lassener?

792
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: No, lasted only in the second year, ain't he?

793
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: Oh?

794
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: Is he?

795
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: Yeah?

796
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: Second, what about I'm not I'm not sure. I'm not

797
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 4: sure about Petrie all them? Boy?

798
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: Man he god, wait, hey, could you imagine?

799
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 4: Could you imagine if I was out there at the

800
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 4: quarterback quarterback at Houston?

801
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: What hey, I called Josh mcdan, I called Mike McDaniel,

802
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 1: Joe Blue Raye.

803
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a good one for the OC.

804
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 4: Yes, hey, oh, hold on, un, I'd rather I mean honestly,

805
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 4: I like I like, I like the idea. I like

806
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 4: where you're going with it. But I prefer I prefer

807
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 4: God damn Mike McDaniel over there in Detroit.

808
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: But he has more to play with. Yeah, he has

809
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 3: more tools to play with.

810
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 4: He got more tools in the toolbox and that kind

811
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: of offense, and it's makesing what he's already used to running.

812
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: Like like, I like you talking about that.

813
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that.

814
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: Check this out. This is what Demiko said. He never

815
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: considered bitching CJ cjs O guy. I believe that he

816
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: could come back out in the second half and flip it.

817
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: I believe that he could come play better, and he

818
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: did that in the second half. He did play better.

819
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: We had some positive drive there in the second half.

820
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: I believe that we would do that and he did that.

821
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: As I always tell our guys at halftime, it really

822
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what happened in the first half.

823
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a two half game, two half game. You

824
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 4: just stink it up the first half and come back

825
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: and look all world in the second.

826
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

827
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: But it's in a game like this, it's hard to

828
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: overcome four turnovers in the first half. The only thing

829
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 2: that saved them it was that Drake May was throwing

830
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: pigs and fumbling the football.

831
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what kevi him in the ball game.

832
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: And they needed their defense to get some scooping scores

833
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 2: and some pick sixes like they got against Pittsburgh. God,

834
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: and they had one. The guy tried to pick it

835
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 2: up in that area of the feld. You got to

836
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: just jump on it, just jump on it, trying to

837
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: play hero. Will Leerson Junior got one out and he

838
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 2: almost had it between his leg and then Campbell jumped

839
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: on that one. That could have been another one that

840
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: could have led the points, maybe a touchdown, maybe a

841
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: field goal, we don't know. Yeah, but there were some

842
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: opportunities there for the defense. But it's just hard where

843
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: your offense puts your defense on short fields and puts

844
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: you and keeps putting you in harm's way because I

845
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: don't care how great you are. That's what we had

846
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: to learn that the two thousand Ravens, as great as

847
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: our defense were, if we kept putting them on short

848
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: fields with a guy, Hey, all they got to do

849
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: is just kneel down to kick a field goal. Yeah,

850
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: and then a bus can player or broken tackle that's

851
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Make him drive seventy eighty You wasn't driving

852
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 2: seven arey on that defense, not that year. I don't

853
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: believe a team is gonna consistently drive seventy eighty yards

854
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: on that Houston, Texas defense. Now.

855
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: The only thing that would harm them or would put

856
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: them in harm's way.

857
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, turnover offense, turning the ball over.

858
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: And the Patriot they got their hands on the ball.

859
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: Gonzalez got it out from Woody Marks. Carlton Davis had

860
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: two outstandings.

861
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 4: Ain't assession with Knight. Hey, Carlton Davis played a little

862
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 4: receiver back. He must have played the livery receiver.

863
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: Back in the day. Those guys, those guys played well.

864
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: They did a great job.

865
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: Athrety Jennings had a sack, Songa had a Tonga had

866
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: a sack. Ky Levon, chase On had a sack. They

867
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 2: got they put pressure on him. But man will Anderson Jr.

868
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: Was playing out his mind. Three sacks, the nail hunter.

869
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: Two sacks countless precious.

870
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: Hey, they supposed to come away. I mean, the coach,

871
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: your defense do that for you.

872
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 4: You five sacks, You're supposed to repay the favor though.

873
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: But you know what's funny is them five sacks the

874
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 4: full turnovers.

875
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: It it counters. It evens everything out, yes, even it

876
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 3: evens everything out.

877
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: Yep.

878
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: And the thing is the reason why it was a

879
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: close ball game is that, like you said, one team

880
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: had had five with five turnovers.

881
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: No, they had no what marks laws?

882
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Willie Mark's lost one uh and uh four, So

883
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: that's five turnovers and the other team had.

884
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: Three turnovers.

885
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: It's crazy, but.

886
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: I but look, I gotta try something because something is

887
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: going on with my quarterback, and I believe he's the

888
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: If I'm Demico, this is how I'm thinking. I'm Demiko Ryant.

889
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: My quarterback is not the same as he was in

890
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: his rookie season. Now I need to know why. I'm

891
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 2: not I'm gonna I'm not gonna leave a stone unturned. Yeah,

892
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: almost sky with heaven and Earth. Maybe he needs to

893
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: get a no OC. Maybe he needs somebody else in

894
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: his ear.

895
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know what it is. They need

896
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 3: to do something because when CJ.

897
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: Stroud missed a few games, David Mills came in and

898
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 4: kept their head above water. David Mills came in and

899
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 4: kept that Houston Texans offense above water until until C. D.

900
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: Stroud got back.

901
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: He did so.

902
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 4: If David Mills can do it and look the way

903
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 4: he looked in such a short amount of time, I'm

904
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 4: sure c J. Stroud can come back and do it.

905
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if his confidence may be shot a

906
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: little bit. Maybe they need to have a different approach

907
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 4: and to get it in getting him in rhythm. Stop

908
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 4: having plays that are so long, stop having plays that

909
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 4: require play action.

910
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't I don't know.

911
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

912
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: You know that team Demko, they understand what.

913
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: CD Strouds CD Strouds strengths are as a quarterback, and

914
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 4: they understand what the weaknesses are. You need to make

915
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 4: sure you play to a strength and hide his weakness

916
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: is the best way you can until you can make

917
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: his weaknesses a part of his strength. And that that

918
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: that takes years and years and years of working at

919
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 4: your craft to do that.

920
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well today was the ALC Championship game in ninety seven.

921
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, yeah, that was ninety seven. I think

922
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: we did pick off Cordell a couple of times. What

923
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: do we pick him up?

924
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: Three times?

925
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: Two times? You played against Cordell Stewart?

926
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, when it is but the.

927
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: Steelers on okay, yeah.

928
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: Three times?

929
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think if they no he because uh,

930
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: one year Cordell, I think it might have been that

931
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: year Cordell finished like second to third in the m

932
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: v P voting.

933
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: Who won the MVP in ninety seven? Barry and Brett

934
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: Farr tied.

935
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: Bretton won it three years in a row ninety five,

936
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: ninety six, ninety seven, and then TV wanted in ninety eight,

937
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: and then uh, Kurt won and won it in two

938
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: thousand ninety nine, and I think Marshall won him in

939
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: two thousand and then Kurt won it again in.

940
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: One I think I think with the Rams, uh now

941
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: rich Gannett, Yeah, I think.

942
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: Kurt won and O one. I think Rich won in

943
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: a Rich one in O two.

944
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: That's what with the Raiders. Yes, yeah, we're Jerry and Tim.

945
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, But Houston, you got too much talent. Don't

946
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: squader this. You got to find out what's going on

947
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: with CJ. Because you're about to have to invest a

948
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: boatload of money in him, so you might want to

949
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: make sure everything is on the that you got. You

950
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: you give him the best tools possible from an offensive

951
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: perspective as a coordinator and a quarterback coach, to make

952
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: sure you're maximizing his ability. After the game, several fans

953
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: posted Stroud's infamous postgame moments with Caleb Williams from Week

954
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 2: two of last season. Stroud big brother Williams despite them

955
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: being the same age, and told Caleb stopped taking those

956
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: big hits and then it would be a hell of

957
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: a player in the NFL.

958
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: Well, he didn't lie.

959
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: Williams did not look at all interested in what Stroud

960
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: had to say since that moment. CJ Stroud seven hundred

961
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 2: ninety five yards, thirty four touchdowns, eighteen picks. Caleb Williams

962
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: six thousand, six hundred and twelve yards forty eight touchdowns,

963
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: twelve picks.

964
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, tough.

965
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: He tried. He just tried to look at he just

966
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: trying to you know.

967
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 4: That was that was That was a genuine moment too,

968
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: from from from two players obviously knowing each other before

969
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 4: they even made it to the NFL.

970
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: Just just just give me some because you know how

971
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: they were giving Caleb.

972
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 6: Crackt He came from from California, from LA. You know

973
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Caleb is from the DMV. They know

974
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 6: each other. Come on, man, I'm talking about from college.

975
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 6: I'm not talking about when you know you know, you

976
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 6: know what you said.

977
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

978
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 2: The number one Seattle Seahawks bully the San Francisco forty

979
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: nine is by the score of forty one to six.

980
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: The Seahawks advance to the NFC Championship Game. They'll host

981
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: either the Rams or the Bears next week. Rahie Shaheed

982
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: returned to open a kickoff ninety five to set the tone,

983
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 2: and they never looked back. Seattle's defense was stifling, as

984
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: they were the last game of the season when they

985
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: beat the forty nine Ers thirteen to three. This time

986
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: it was even more convincing. Seattle defense dominated, forcing three turnovers,

987
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 2: holding the forty nine ers two hundred and thirty six

988
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: yards and three turn them over on down three consecutive times.

989
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker finished the game one hundred and sixteen rushing

990
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: yards and three touchdowns, tying the Great Alexander the Great

991
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: Sean and Alexander the Great Seattle running back Seattle Seahawks

992
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: running back for the most touchdowns of the playoff game.

993
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: Oh, Jo, this thing got started from the job Reddy.

994
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 2: It's hard to overcome, you know, a special team touchdowns

995
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: on Joe, they just do something to you.

996
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, they take the win out your sales. For one,

997
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 4: you're already playing on the goddamn road having to deal

998
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 4: with the twelfth man. Then obviously, you know, you practice

999
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 4: all week and you focus on the offense and the

1000
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 4: high power octane that is the Seattle Seahawks off Then

1001
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 4: you know what you know what they look like on defense,

1002
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 4: and then the half to deal with the special teams too.

1003
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 4: They come out and score as soon as the game starts.

1004
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: It already puts you behind the eight ball. Then you

1005
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 4: can't get nothing going offensively on top of the turnovers

1006
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 4: you have, and in the game, hell, you really don't

1007
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 4: stand a chance to actually.

1008
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 5: Let alone win.

1009
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: You can't even compete.

1010
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 5: Playing like that. And so I mean, damn, all.

1011
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 4: Three phases dominated, all phases, They dominated the entirety of

1012
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 4: the game at no point, at no point in the game,

1013
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 4: Well they got damn forty nine ers in the game

1014
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 4: at all. And hey, listen, I tweeted, at one point

1015
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 4: they were up, they were up by uh by, maybe by.

1016
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: Maybe by.

1017
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 4: Something like that seventeen six, I said, listen, at some point,

1018
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 4: the pendulum is gonna shift, the momentum is gonna shift.

1019
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 4: Can the Seahawks get enough of a lead when that

1020
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: millennium shifts where the forty nine ers don't have a

1021
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 4: chance to come back? Most of the sam Monk, you

1022
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 4: watched football for a very long time. Most of the time,

1023
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: when it does shift, the other team makes away and

1024
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 4: finds a way to come back and crawl their way

1025
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 4: back into the game.

1026
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: Tonight, man, Yeah, I wasn't even close.

1027
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what that was. I don't know if

1028
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: I've ever seen this before. A team only had fifty plays,

1029
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: team ran fifty plays, though, jo, and you get forty

1030
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: one points. Okay, let's just say, for the sake of argument,

1031
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: we will take that special teams play away. But still

1032
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: they got thirty four points on fifty plays. That's crazy,

1033
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: that is crazy. You came out in the postseason. I

1034
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: don't care how good your team. And we're talking about

1035
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: this Buffalo. You turn the ball over four times. Now,

1036
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: you know, Sean got a little conservative there in that

1037
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: bar five turns my bad. But in this game right here,

1038
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: Seattle Man, that defense they're good at all three levels.

1039
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: The back end is really good. Ernest Jones the Force

1040
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: takes the ball away. Leona Williams and d Long. DeMarcus

1041
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: Lawrence has found new life getting out of Dallas.

1042
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: Uh.

1043
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: He finds the guys are playing for one another. They

1044
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 2: fly to the football. Big Leonard Williams is since been sensational.

1045
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: Man.

1046
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: You know, they got guys that can make plays on

1047
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: the offensive side of football, that can run the football

1048
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 2: with Kennith Walker, the third Charbonneau, but the receiving there

1049
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: they make plays. I mean, they just they're just the

1050
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: sound football team, very very well coached. And I think

1051
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: the thing is defensively Oho when you watch them, they

1052
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: don't do a whole lot. They don't do a whole lot.

1053
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: I mean, from what I see, they play some quarters

1054
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: and maybe man man down in the reb zone. But

1055
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: other than that simplicity, let's do let's let's do a

1056
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: few things great as opposed to do a lot of things.

1057
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, And I think that's one of the reasons

1058
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 4: why defensively, most of the time they're really not ever

1059
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 4: out of position because.

1060
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 5: They do the simple things, and they do the simple

1061
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 5: things very very well.

1062
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 4: Obviously, when you have the personnel that they do have defensively,

1063
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: it makes it a lot easier.

1064
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 5: We don't have to do all the dotic shit, you

1065
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 5: don't have to confuse your.

1066
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 4: Opponent with all types of different coverages and schemes and

1067
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 4: tactics to be able to do things. And the fact

1068
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 4: they were able to put up forty one points to

1069
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 4: night minus let's let's like you said, let's take out

1070
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 4: the return from they still put up thirty four to

1071
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 4: thirty five goddamn points.

1072
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 5: Sam Donald the night, he was.

1073
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: Only twelve seventeen, But that's it one TV, the.

1074
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: JSN, that was it.

1075
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 5: That is how good they played the night.

1076
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker Junior played well, Cooper Cup led the team

1077
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 4: with five for five for sixty, But that god damn defense,

1078
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 4: by that god damn, I don't. I'm not sure who

1079
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 4: they're gonna play. I don't know who they're gonna play.

1080
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: Obviously we'll find out tomorrow.

1081
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: Oh, y'all.

1082
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, Joe, and that you never

1083
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: want to put the you know, the card in front

1084
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: of the horses in front of the car, Well, that's

1085
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: where it goes, right, the car.

1086
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 5: In front of the horse car, the car in front

1087
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 5: of the herds got to pull the car.

1088
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: And I mean when you look at when you just

1089
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: look at them and the way they rally to the

1090
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: fing football, I mean, it's not one. I'm like, well,

1091
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: hold on, hey, Ralph, I think they got too many

1092
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: men on the shore. Ain't no wear hemp for hey, hey,

1093
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 2: Dodd nod. We're all just supposed to have a level.

1094
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: They gotta have thirteen. Ain't no way that they get

1095
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: to the ball that quick. If they do.

1096
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: The front for.

1097
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 2: They can generate pressure. Occasionally they'll come with a blipz,

1098
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: but most of the time they just generate pressure with

1099
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: that front four. Hey, that number three ooh ooh. But

1100
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: if you look at them, they play defense just like

1101
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: the old Legion of Boom. The Legion of Boom, basically

1102
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: plays one cover. They played single high robber. We called

1103
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: it was back then. He used to call it alert

1104
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: cam chans lurker looking to pick off any crossers.

1105
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: They call it robber. Now he's looking to rob the

1106
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: crossing rode or the ink. Other than that, that's it.

1107
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: That's how they played.

1108
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: If you look at this team, listen, they're a very

1109
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: simplistic coverage team. Good luck good and up against Boone

1110
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 2: and Woland got loved safety. You got Ernest Jones the

1111
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: third excuse me, the fourth, and then you got those guys.

1112
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: You swarm the d lines just swarm yare fundamentally Silen McDonald.

1113
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 2: You know, this is a really tough because Ben Johnson

1114
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 2: could get Coach of the Year, Rabel could get Coach

1115
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: of the Year, Demiko Ryan can.

1116
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: Get Conture the year. McDonald get coatur of the Year.

1117
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: I mean, look, there are a lot of worthy candais Hell,

1118
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: Sean Payton can get Coach of the Year. There are

1119
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: a lot of worthy candadiates. But the job that McDonald

1120
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: has done with this team and a short time there.

1121
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: This is only second year, yeah, only second year, and

1122
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: here is that they're the NFC Championship game with that

1123
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 2: game on their home field.

1124
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Ojo.

1125
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 4: The funny thing about it too, those that in the

1126
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 4: chat that are watching now you understand the importance of

1127
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 4: a quarterback. You look at some of the teams that

1128
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 4: have struggled and and and then, and it's his goal

1129
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 4: to say, for Sam Donald's situations matter, where you go matters,

1130
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 4: coaching matters, the person, organization matter.

1131
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't give it that couldn't go to the Jets.

1132
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: He's gonna be. He ain't gonna be the what we know, well.

1133
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, what we used to seeing. So, I mean, Sam

1134
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 4: Donald is in a perfect situation. I know, I've said

1135
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 4: it multiple times on the show. I know Minnesota is

1136
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 4: kicking themselves in the foot, you know, for actually allow.

1137
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: Out hard to keep. But I get what you said,

1138
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: we get, we can we know what he was saying.

1139
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,479
Speaker 1: Chatty man, listen, I'm trying.

1140
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 5: I'm trying to prevent from cursing. That's why I said that.

1141
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 4: We know, we know, we know what you be right, right, right,

1142
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: But but hey, Sam Donald's playing exception plan exceptional.

1143
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 5: Obviously, I've been worried about him. He's been somewhat, he's

1144
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 5: been turnedover. Yeah, he's right, Yeah, I think he had,

1145
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 5: but yeah, you know, he had twenty something interceptions.

1146
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: He had twenty plus turnovers plus.

1147
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 5: Twenty plus turnover, So I was worried about him going

1148
00:54:58,560 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 5: to the playoffs.

1149
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 4: I was hoping he just took care of the ball

1150
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 4: because the defense was so well and if they if

1151
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 4: they can play defense the way they played the night

1152
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 4: and special teams.

1153
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 5: They do what they need to do, and and Sam

1154
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 5: Donald doesn't put the.

1155
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 4: Ball in harm's way and just allow allow offensively whatever

1156
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 4: the defense, just don't lose it, just take it.

1157
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 5: Just just just don't lose the game trying to try

1158
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 5: too much.

1159
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: That's worse.

1160
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, o Choe. And when you look

1161
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: at this team, like I said, they're very well coached.

1162
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: They're discipline, they're gutting the special team's area, especially on

1163
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: punk kick return because heat Is is a Pro Bowl player.

1164
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: On their special teams. On the other end, they do

1165
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: a great job of tackling.

1166
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: They pin you down, they make you they don't give

1167
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: you big plays, they make you nickeling down your way

1168
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: down the field. And that's the best way to play defenses.

1169
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 2: Defense is not to give up anything cheap, anything deep.

1170
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 2: I believe if you have to consistently drive the ball

1171
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: ten twelve, fifteen plays. I believe I can make you

1172
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: turn it over as opposed to giving up a one

1173
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: or two, you know, a sixty yard run or a

1174
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: fifty yard pass. I believe if I make you go

1175
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 2: first down, first second, Okay, convert third down, first second,

1176
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: conduct conduct, convert third down. I believe if I make

1177
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: you continuously have to nickel and dime your way down

1178
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: the field, I believe you'll stub your tone.

1179
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: I believe you will make a mistake. And that's all

1180
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: I need. Yeah, And you know what else is good?

1181
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 4: If you look at the escape of the teams to

1182
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 4: the left, let's say for the NFC in general, you

1183
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 4: look at a game like to night Offensively, christ mccraff

1184
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey CAUs an issue regards to who they're playing

1185
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 4: because they can create mismatches by using him in a

1186
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 4: multitude of ways offensively, but because the goddamned Seahawks are

1187
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 4: so good in all three levels, whether it be the front,

1188
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: whether it be the second level, or they got them

1189
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 4: back in, they match up so extremely well.

1190
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 5: Some of the things that Christian McCaffrey is able to

1191
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 5: exploit when they're playing.

1192
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 4: Other teams, play somebody like Seattle. Uh huh, it's not

1193
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 4: happening like he he had some runs he would able

1194
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 4: to do. Nah, there were no gases the night and boy,

1195
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 4: they was putting the hat on him to night. Boy,

1196
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 4: boy was putting the hat on him to night.

1197
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: But I mean nice Jones and fourth had two takeaways,

1198
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 2: he had a pig, had a forest fumble, ripped it

1199
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: out on the tight end.

1200
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: But a look from about a week, I mean, for.

1201
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: Like the last month, after what they did to the Rams,

1202
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: they showed me something being down like they were, and

1203
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: and and and and and finding a way to get

1204
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: that off the mat and to win that game and

1205
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: overtime in the fashion not only did they tie, because

1206
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: the Rams go right down the fielding overtime, get a

1207
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: get a touchdown, p a T. They're up seven, and

1208
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: for for Seattle to match it, to go down the

1209
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: field and then say, you know what, we ain't doing

1210
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: no more overtime because the next score win, we're gonna

1211
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 2: win it and lose it right here, and they say,

1212
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: you know what, We're gonna win it. If Sam Donald

1213
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: did a great did a did a great job. See

1214
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: how it's gonna be a tough out on Joe. He

1215
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: will be telling I don't care. Look the game. Obviously,

1216
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: we can say the game favors Chicago because then they

1217
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: practicing that and they play more often in those kind

1218
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: of conditions.

1219
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: Than the RAM.

1220
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: But anything can happen on a given Sunday. That's why

1221
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 2: we love football so much because it's one thing. It's

1222
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: one game. It's winn to go home. There is no tomorrow.

1223
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: There's finality once postseason.

1224
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: It's not like that.

1225
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 2: In any other sport they say game seven, there's nothing

1226
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: like game seven. Well, in the NFL, every playoff game

1227
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: is a game seven, whether it's the Wildcard division or

1228
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship.

1229
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: Obviously the Super Bowl, we know what that is.

1230
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 2: But every playoff game in the postseason, I mean, every

1231
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: playoff game in the NFL is a game seven. No

1232
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 2: other sport has that. Because I get four chances. All

1233
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: I gotta do I gotta beat you four times. But

1234
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: that it doesn't work like that in NFL. I ain't

1235
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: gotta beat nobody four times. I gotta win if I

1236
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: win four games. If I win four games, on Joe,

1237
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: if I'm a wildcard, I'm gonna beat the Super Bowl

1238
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: champh In the other sport, if you win four games,

1239
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: all they all you did was advanced to the next round. Yeah,

1240
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: four games in the NFL in the postseason, you suit

1241
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: Bowl champs.

1242
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: But looks.

1243
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: San Francisco. You know the injuries, the in and out.

1244
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 2: You know, they lost trentp for a minute, uh, the

1245
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: wide receiver. I thought they did. I thought they they

1246
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: played well. But sometimes you know, team just has your number,

1247
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 2: Teams have your number. Seattle, Seattle is I'm not so

1248
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: sure if the forty nine ers have all their pieces,

1249
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: that they're a better football.

1250
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: Team than than than than Seattle.

1251
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 4: You know, you know, when I think about it, I

1252
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 4: think about if they had Bosa, if they had Fred wa.

1253
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because you gotta be they can't get pressure

1254
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: on the quarterback, on Joe. It's so hard for them

1255
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: to get pressure. And you got to have somebody that

1256
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: can win quick. You need somebody that can win right now,

1257
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 2: that can win his one on one matchup. They got

1258
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: and they don't really have that. Fred Warner is not

1259
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: gonna make them. Some of the mistakes that these guys

1260
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: were making. They're trying to go under and they get

1261
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: pinned and the spence out, or they go over and

1262
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 2: the guy cuts back.

1263
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: Fred is not gonna make some of the mistakes. He's

1264
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: two veteran of a player.

1265
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 2: He's gonna rediagnose what's going on a lot sooner than

1266
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: these guys. But I think from look and it's these

1267
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: games are always close, normally normally. I mean the first

1268
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: time they played up in the Seattle, they the forty

1269
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: nine ers won, but it was a very close ball game.

1270
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: The second time it was a thirteen to three ball game.

1271
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers felt that, you know what if

1272
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: we eliminate some of these turnovers, though, Joe, we like

1273
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: our chances because we've already we've already been here and

1274
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: one before, so it's not like it's foreign to us.

1275
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: It's like it's out of the realm of possibility that

1276
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: we can't we can win because we won here before.

1277
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: So you know, you feel somewhat good. You like to

1278
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: have Bosa, yeah, because you had Bosa when you won

1279
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: the first time, You had Fred Warner when you run

1280
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: won the first time. You had Kittle when you won

1281
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: the first time, So you would have liked to have

1282
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: some of those pieces, But you got what you got,

1283
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: you got what you got, just look good.

1284
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 5: You gotta make yeah, you got, you gotta make do

1285
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 5: it what you have.

1286
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 4: Obviously, I think it hurts not having killed, not having both,

1287
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 4: not having fed Warner. But you think it comes to

1288
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 4: this time, when it comes to playoff time, there are

1289
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 4: a lot of teams that have injuries, maybe not maybe

1290
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 4: not injuries to some of their star players to the

1291
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 4: extent of that of the forty nine ers.

1292
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 5: But you got to make do it.

1293
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 4: You got, you got to make what you got. So,

1294
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 4: I mean it's unfortunate. I think for the forty nine ers.

1295
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to look.

1296
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 5: It's hard for me to understand why right back next year.

1297
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: So I mean, it is what it is. Yeah, I'm

1298
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: trying to think.

1299
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the forty nine ers, maybe a d lineman,

1300
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: maybe a corner I mean, losing huff a finger, who's

1301
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: in Denver right now? Their safety is man, I just

1302
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean the past that jig, But I

1303
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 2: don't know what thirty six were looking at that. Oh Joe,

1304
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: why would he look back inside? The quarterback is rolling

1305
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: towards the sideline, you look back inside and he throws

1306
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: it and Jake, but slides and catches it.

1307
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you looking for?

1308
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 5: That was a nice drop in the bucket too, now, I.

1309
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: Mean he looking like your mom called him, like he

1310
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: heard somebody you called me mom?

1311
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 2: No, man, see o Joe. I mean when I go

1312
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: to games, and this is why and and and we're

1313
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: gonna talk about the Bronco. It's why I came. Man,

1314
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: I see some stuff.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, what I just okay, come in, son,

1317
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: come in, Let mesk you something real quick. Tell me

1318
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: what you saw? What did you see?

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Speaker 1: Right? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but you got You gotta understand too,

1321
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 4: now when you when you're watching the game from a

1322
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 4: fan perspective, even though you played the game, and when

1323
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 4: you're watching from an eye level of you.

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01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: Today because we can see everything behind with you.

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01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, sometimes you know what we see with with

1326
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 4: with a clear eyesight. Yeah, you know, and the bullet

1327
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 4: and the bullets you know it's flying, and you know

1328
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 4: it's a thinking man's game, my dad un thinking man's game.

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01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 5: So one mistake, one slip up, one step in, take

1330
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 5: what you've done the wrong way, you hesitate, you're peek

1331
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 5: in the backfield.

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01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: That's all the only thing that I tried to do,

1333
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 2: go ahead, go ahead, you said, yeah, you're out of position.

1334
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: The only thing that I really that I really emphasized,

1335
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: O Joe, is that I never tried to get beat

1336
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 2: on what I've seen on tape. If I know a

1337
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: guy like the cross face, I can't let you beat

1338
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: me cross. Now, if you step cross like, you can

1339
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 2: cross my face and come out the backside. We need

1340
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: to get a different running back, because he too got hold.

1341
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 2: Other than that, O Joe, You're gonna make You're gonna

1342
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: have drops, You're gonna make some mistakes. But as I told,

1343
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: I remember patser Tan, I got in a chance to

1344
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 2: holler at him. I saw his dad. I saw his

1345
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: dad also talked to him. I say, in the playoffs,

1346
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 2: there are no incidental plays. Every play matters. See if

1347
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 2: some in the regular season, oh show sometimes the first

1348
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 2: quarter play might not have an impact and to get

1349
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: rest of the game. But in the postseason, every play matters.

1350
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: Every play matters, and so you're like, oh, don't worry

1351
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: about we'll get it back. But that's the difference, you know, Now,

1352
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 2: all of a sudden instead of a sem point, you

1353
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: got three, Now that's four points win.