1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thank advantage on the day. Will you get opportunity in 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: the game they can play? Oh by Michael, don't do 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: it one tuxdown Kansas City, The Chiefs all right in 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: the thick of a baby. Hi everyone, and welcome to 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: this edition of Defending the Kingdom. Mitchell is with you 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Voice of the Chiefs, along with Chiefs reporter Matt McMullin, 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: and the man would call the shop the Barber Shop, 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: the Spider made Sean Barber, ten year NFL veteran and 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: now leader in the community. And with the Chiefs ambassadors, 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: this edition of the Defending the Kingdom will be called 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: the Andy Reid Bowl. You see bowl games, right, these 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: college bowl games, they have the little patches up there. 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: Well you got the Super Bowl fifty four patch, your cool, Kelsey. 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: So we decided to go all Andy Reid Bowl. Here 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about one of the greatest coaches 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: in the history of football, not just the NFL. A 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: reminder that the Defending the Kingdom show is brought to 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: you by three sixty Vodka, the Kansas City's hometown vodka 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: and the official vodka of the Chief Kingdom. And before 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: we jump into Andy Reid, here we have another announcement 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: to Nate make It's a guy that I've worked with 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: for only twenty eight seasons now, but the executive producer 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs Radio network, so big even 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: beyond that, Dan Israel, will be inducted this weekend in 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: the Kansas Association of Broadcasters Hall of Fame. We've all 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: worked for Spartacus at one time or another, but the 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: dude is a genius and to get I'm so excited 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: he's into the hall man to see him on so 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: many different levels from a player standpoint and then being 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: able to do production behind the scenes and watch him 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: work both ways. Like you're saying, Spartacus, that is definitely 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: the terminology because he's a leader of men. He works 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: behind the camera, he produces some phenomenal footwork, phenomenal footage. 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: So many years as a player and now is on 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: a production team. Dan Israel, my hat's off to you. Yeah, 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: and just such a great leader. He's been for so long, 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: and I remember when I first came on the staff 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: several years ago, He's wanted to get to know me 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: and welcome to me. And he's always been that way. 40 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: There's a lot of turn over in sports, people come 41 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: and go, but Dan's always been here and always been 42 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: a huge member of this team. So well deserved and 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: so happy for him. He's impacted the Olympics, the League 44 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: calls on him when they want to figure stuff out. 45 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: He's worked with all the major networks seemingly and it's 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: also been a cancer battler. So prayers up for Dan. 47 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: But congratulations to Dan Israel aka Spartacus for making the 48 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: Kans Association of Broadcasters Hall of Fame. Also, and shop 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: people now defending the Kingdom's global We've had Bolivia, we've 50 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: had the African continent, every continent but Antarctica Antarctica. So 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: if you're out there in Antarctica, I know you love 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: shop and Antarctica. You're big in an Arctica. I'm just 53 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: telling you. But you've got a few more. Okay, So 54 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: our comment section on the last episode, so we have David. 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: He said, thanks for the shout out. He's in Australia, 56 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: so he appreciated the shout out. David. One more shout 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: out for you down in Australia. We have a Venetius 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: in Brazil. So down in South America, Venecius, I think 59 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm pronouncing her name correctly. Venetius in Brazil, Reiner in 60 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: Germany listening to DTK s the Reiner over in Germany. 61 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: So we have Europe covered. But then also, you know, 62 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: we talk about all these people all over the world. 63 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: Also a lot of listeners right here in Chiefs Kingdom, right, 64 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: So we have Brandon he listens while delivering mail here 65 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: in Kansas City. So wherever you are, if you're in 66 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: Germany or Australia, or maybe hopefully at one point Antarctica, 67 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: or if you're right here in Kansas City, thanks for listening. 68 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: Neither rain, nor snow nor anything will stop the mail. 69 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: It will not stop defending the kingdom, and it will stop. 70 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: The three of us are talking about Andy Reid. We 71 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: are saying, this is the Andy Reid bull. That's our 72 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: commemorative big red patch for this game, the Chiefs against 73 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: the Eagles. There's some just poetry here, but let's talk 74 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: about Andy Reid overall, because if he wins this game, 75 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: one hundredth win with the Chiefs in both regular end postseason, 76 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: it'll be the only coach. He'll be the only coach 77 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: in NFL history to win a hundred games with two 78 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: different franchises. That in of itself is enough to put 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: him in the Hall of Fame. Now we're going to 80 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: get into this in detail with you, but just a 81 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: few overall thoughts on Andy Reid. Well, i'd say, what's 82 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: amazing to me about Andy Reid and he's changed the 83 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: culture of two different organizations, two proud organizations, like we'll 84 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: talk about. But what I think is so impressive about 85 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: him is that he's not just a guy that has 86 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: his system. He plugs it in, it works for a while, 87 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: and then it goes away. Like we see so many 88 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: coaches have their system, their thing, right, Well, Coach Reid 89 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: has adapted with the times, and I think that's the 90 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: most impressive thing about him. Over his two decade long 91 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: career as a head coach. If you look at his 92 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: playbook in nineteen ninety nine, it's probably a bit different 93 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: than what it is today, and he's adapted with the 94 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: best of him. He's always been one of the best 95 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: coaches in all the football no matter what the times 96 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: and what everything is being thrown at him is. And 97 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: I think that's the most impressive thing about him is 98 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: his ability to adapt. And he's not a self promoter, 99 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: so This is why anything we can say about him 100 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: it is proper because he's just not one to put 101 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: himself out there. But your thoughts well, as a player, 102 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: you realize there are always two types of coaches. I 103 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: know they call him player coaches, and you have coaches 104 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: are always players under the bus, right, somebody's gonna get fired. 105 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the players. Ay, my fault. I put 106 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: him out there. I put him out aligned them assignment. 107 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: He didn't make the play. Let's get a new player. 108 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: Andy has been a guy that he doesn't want to 109 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: waste your time, whether it's in the meeting room on 110 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: the field. He treats men like men. There's a level 111 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: of respect he has for players. You've done so much 112 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: to get the opportunity to play this game, all through 113 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: the years of Little league and in college, to put 114 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: yourself in a position to be a part of the NFL. 115 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: All he wants to do is put you in an 116 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: environment to educate yourself and to be able to play 117 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: at the highest level possible. There's nothing he wants to 118 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: do from an organization standpoint. Then adds any extra distractions. 119 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: He wants to eliminate stressors, eliminate distractions, and let guys 120 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: go what he says on game day or the night before, 121 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: let your personality show. And as a player, you appreciate 122 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: that because there's not many coaches that see that the 123 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: team is being more important than themselves. It's a very 124 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: ego driven organization as far as the NFL as a whole, 125 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: And when you're the head coach of one of thirty 126 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: two professional teams in the NFL, at the highest level 127 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: of football, it's very easy to let your pride get 128 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: in the way. Andy for a number of years has 129 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: always checked his pride and his ego at the door, 130 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: and he lets the desire and the goals of that 131 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: team supersede anything he wants from a personal level. And 132 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: I'll add on that too. I have to get too 133 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: off base here, but that's what gives me so much 134 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: confidence in this team moving forward after a couple of 135 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: couple of tough losses because he always says, hey, that's 136 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: my responsibility, we'll clean that up. He's never too high, 137 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: never too low. I said that, I'm rewind after the game. 138 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: If the team's winning the super Bowl, he's excited, of course, 139 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: but he's not too high. And if the team has 140 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: lost a couple games in a row. He's not too low, 141 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: so he has that middle ground. He's always even keel, 142 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: and I think that helps players, and I think they 143 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: helps fans as well, and that's why this team will 144 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: be just fine moving forward, I think, which is why 145 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: he's a great troubleshooter. You and I earlier on Kingdom 146 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: of Conversations in fourteen, DeVito and DJ go down with 147 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: Achilles chairs within five minutes. Never seen it in my life. Okay, 148 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 1: Chief started and two. He rallies to go nine and seven. 149 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: Coach Reid does fifteen one five start, He wins ten 150 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: straight games and the Chiefs win a playoff game for 151 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: the first time in a generation. Seventeen, they lose six 152 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: out of seven games. He rallies the team, they win 153 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: the division nineteen. We all think about Unicorn's candy games rates. Right, 154 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: three straight losses at home, Mahomes is hurt, and they're 155 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: going to win the Super Bowls. That's your point that 156 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: the biggest compliment I've been able to give Andy Reid 157 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: is he gets the human spirit. He gets the human spirit. 158 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: He grew up in Los Angeles. He did not grow 159 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: up in Malibu. Okay, or Beverly Hills. He went to 160 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: John Marshall High School, multicultural high school, right, and the 161 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: fact that he has but he gets everything. He gets 162 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: the rural, he gets the urban, he gets the minority. 163 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he's an amazing person in that regard. He 164 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: gets it and he gets the human spirit, and he's phenomenal. 165 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: So to put this game in context, and again, if 166 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: you're just listening and not watching this edition of Defending 167 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: the Kingdom, we're in our chief's jerseys, suited up for 168 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: the Andy Reid Bowl, with our Andy Reid patches up 169 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: and ready to go. But let's go back and put 170 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: this game in context, because it's going to start really 171 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine. Let's take the Eagles when they 172 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: hired Andy Reid, the redheaded offensive coach from the Green 173 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Right, he had been with far if they'd 174 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: seen him on the highlights. But the Eagles in the 175 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: fifteen years prior to Andy Reid's of arrival, okay, one 176 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: hundred twenty six games, lost one hundred twenty six games, 177 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: and tied three. And he's there for fourteen years. Eight 178 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: division titles, gits him to the NFC Championship game takes 179 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: over the NFC East. Basically, we're gonna get to this 180 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: in a second. Shop has seen this from both sidelines. 181 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: But your overall comment, let's go back to him transforming 182 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: Philadelphia into what they became, and then we're gonna get 183 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: into Shop's interesting story here, because if there's anyone in 184 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: the Kingdom that has perspective from both sidelines of Andy Reid, 185 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: it is one Shawn Barber. Your thoughts, well, it's just 186 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: crazy what he was able to do in Philadelphia, and 187 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: it's much like what he's been able to do in 188 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: Kansas City, where he truly has raised an entire generation 189 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: of fans where, hey, our football team is really good. 190 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: And for me, so I'm twenty eight years old, when 191 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: I was growing up, the Eagles were really good. So 192 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, when I was growing up 193 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: as a football fan, the Eagles are always in it. 194 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to four straight conference title games. 195 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: The Eagles are a great football team, and you think 196 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: about when you realize your own perspective, you think it's 197 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: always been that way. So in my mind growing up, 198 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: the Eagles have always been a great team and Coachree 199 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: truly made that when he got to Philadelphia in nineteen 200 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: ninety nine. He changed everything in Philadelphia, made them a 201 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: consistent winner, and even think about their Super Bowl victory 202 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: with Doug Peterson, Coach Reid was the ripple effect of that. 203 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if coach Read doesn't mentor and teach Doug Peterson, 204 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: doesn't teach him his system, the Eagles don't win that 205 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl even when coach Reid wasn't there. So coach 206 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: Read changes everything even beyond after he had left Philadelphia, 207 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: and he's done the same thing here where you have 208 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: an entire generation of fans in Kansas City that do 209 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: not know what it's like to miss the playoffs, which 210 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: is amazing and I absolutely love it. But for fans 211 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: that grew up when I did, when you're going up 212 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: in the early two thousands or in the late nineties, 213 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: he went through some tough times and Philadelphia fans did 214 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: the same thing, and coach here it has changed everything 215 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: for two generations of fans. So it's it's really amazing 216 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: what he's been able to do. So let's put you 217 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: were five years old when the coach here he got 218 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: hired at Philadelphia. Yeah, okay, you were five years old. 219 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: Then when there was an aspiring linebacker for the Washington 220 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: football team by the name of Sean Barber. And here's 221 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: where we're gonna go. Now, don't make him feel old. Well, 222 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: I'm look at you like, oh my gosh, you were 223 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: a Washington linebacker. Yes, and Andy Reid comes into the division. 224 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: Washington and Dallas Man were pounding it out for the Giants. 225 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: I mean the Eagles were kind of the Eagles. And 226 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: but now I'm of a sudden Andy Reid gets that job. 227 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: You had four games against him as an opponent, being 228 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: a linebacker for the Washington football team. What was that 229 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: like in ninety nine and two thousand? Other thing by recollecting, 230 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: try to reminisce about what it is preparing for you 231 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: Andy Reid team. It's always going to be a team 232 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: that's well prepared. You know they were gonna be not 233 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: heavily penalized. They were going to execute at a very 234 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: high level. So execution and preparedness was something you knew 235 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: he was gonna get. So you had to really be 236 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: on your toes. You had to be on your p's 237 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: and ques. You had to be always prepared to play 238 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: your job and understand your position from a fundamental standpoint 239 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: way beyond any other. All this playing instinctive football, putting 240 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: on the Superman cape, making players from sideline and sideline. 241 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: If you did that against Andy Reid, he would find 242 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: a way to expose. He would expose your quickness, and 243 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: the things you thought were your strengths somehow became your weakness. 244 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: And he had a way of doing that over and 245 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: over again, no matter how prepared you thought you was 246 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: for his game plan. He was able not only before 247 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: the game to put something in, but then there was 248 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: always a few wrinkles in the second half that utilized 249 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: whatever was working in the first half somehow didn't work 250 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: anymore in the second half. And he was so amazing 251 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: in those early years of the screen game. He had 252 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver screens, running back screens, tight end screens. He 253 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,479 Speaker 1: utilized that screen game so efficiently. It makes a linebacker 254 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: always you gotta play. It's like you're playing to run 255 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: the pass and then to run again in one snap. 256 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: And so you didn't you didn't know what you were seeing. 257 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: You didn't know it was a pass set the screen 258 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: set draw, and he kept you so kind of just 259 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: just unsure about what you were seeing up front with 260 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: false keys and things like that. So all of his 261 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: teams were so versatile as far as being able to 262 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: run and past the ball. He used to draw as 263 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: a as a run, He used a quick pass as 264 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: a as an extension of the running game. And those 265 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: are still things to this day that are very cornerstones 266 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: of his offense. But he has definitely extrapolated and definitely 267 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: gone way beyond. Uh, those ninety nine and two thousand seasons. 268 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: Like you said, I think I went two and two 269 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: against him. I feel I feel lucky to have those 270 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: two wins because I know as a linebacker he really 271 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: had me playing to probably some of my highest level 272 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: of plays during in those two seasons. Was Brian Wesbruck 273 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: there when you were defending them. Actually, if we talk 274 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: about ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand, it's probably more 275 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: was Douce Staley. It was the Douce Staley teams. Um 276 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: obviously Um Uh. The quarterback was probably Um. With Doug Peterson. 277 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: It was it was just crazy Peterson for a while 278 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: and then McNair for maybe a few years before I 279 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: actually um became a Philadelphia Eagle. But uh, it was 280 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: it was just so it was so amazing to play 281 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: a team that was so versatile that could I mean, 282 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: he stretched you all fifty three in a quarter yards 283 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: from sideline and sideline. It was always opportunity for them 284 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: to expose your defense. Um and whatever you didn't correct 285 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: a week before, whatever, whatever big plays you gave up 286 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: a week before, there was some way he was going 287 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: to attack that exact same thing to see if you 288 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: corrected it. He wanted to know in the first fifteen plays, 289 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: did you correct your mistakes from a week ago, because 290 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: now we're gonna keep it movement until you have the 291 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: correction on the sideline. So he took everything you gave him. 292 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: He took it, and then when he came to that 293 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: second half, you had to be ready for Andy point 294 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: two point zero. Let me just give you the stats here, Matt, 295 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: since you were five years old. But which is cool. 296 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: In ninety nine, Shop splits with Andy. He loses thirty 297 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: five twenty eight kind of a shootout, but Shop had 298 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: a pass defense. It's a lot of points. It is 299 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: a four tackles two weeks later. So this goes back 300 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: to your point. You're playing these guys within close proximity, 301 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: and I love what you said. He'll take your strength 302 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: and make it your weakness too. I can see that. 303 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: Then in two weeks later, you play him at home 304 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: and you win an overtime twenty to seventeen in Washington. 305 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: He had six tackles in that game, all right. Two 306 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: thousand November eight at Philly, a seventeen fourteen win for 307 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: the Washington football team. Pass defense for our favorite co host, 308 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: try host here. And then on November twenty six, feels 309 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: like a Thanksgiving game, lose twenty three to twenty. So 310 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: again you played him in close proximity. But man, that's 311 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: just that's what we see from coach and we've seen 312 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: it over the last several years too. Yeah, And you 313 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: got my mind thinking here about how he attacks your 314 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: weaknesses because I mentioned how he adapts at the top 315 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: of the show, and I think his ability to identify 316 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: weaknesses over time led to him adapting and pulling things 317 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: from the college game and changing the game as we 318 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: see it today. You mentioned the screen game. The NFL 319 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: didn't use running backs like Coach Read did back when 320 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: he first broke into the league, and now everyone uses 321 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: them that way. And a few years ago I looked 322 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: this up to see how much the league had changed. 323 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: But also how coach Read had changed with the league 324 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: and led that charge. I believe back in it might 325 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: have been nineteen eighty nine or two thousands when I 326 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: looked it up, but I was curious how many shotguns 327 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: snaps Coach Read had his quarterback in in one of 328 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: his first few years, and it was like one or two. 329 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean, because that's just the way the league was, 330 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: because I mean, it was power Ie, it was it 331 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: was you know, under center. I mean, you never put 332 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: your quarterback in the shotgun unless it was like third 333 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: and forever or something. Well, now everyone's in the shotgun 334 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: all the time. And it just impresses me so much 335 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: that coach Reads found ways to change his entire off 336 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: It's a philosophy. Like once again, guys coming out of 337 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, the mts of football world, they have their 338 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: their playbook and they're like, this is my system. This 339 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: is going to work. It's going to work wherever I go. 340 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: We see that so often in the college game and 341 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: it kind of bleeds into the NFL. But the best 342 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: coaches are the ones that say, here's my personnel, how 343 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: can I take advantage of it and make my team 344 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: better and attack the opponent and Coach Read for decades 345 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: has found ways to do that in ways that no 346 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: one else has been able to do. And he leads 347 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: the charge like how often do we watch a game 348 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: on Monday night football or something and go, that's a 349 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: coach Read play right there that we were running two 350 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: years ago, because other play callers see it and go, 351 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: how is he figuring these things out? How is he 352 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: thinking of these things? How can we replicate it? And 353 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: that's the challenge for the chiefs. It is just finding 354 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: ways to constantly stay ahead of everyone else because everyone's 355 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: trying to follow what we're doing. But it's amazing stuff, 356 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: and he's not too proud. He'll look at other plays. 357 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: He might watch the rich Bag game and go, oh, 358 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: I like that. And he's got all these eyeballs on 359 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: all these games. I know, I've seen it. It's the NASA, 360 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: it are surrounding him. But he's He's fascinating in the 361 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: way he approaches and always adjusting. I can tell you. 362 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: And I've broadcast his games for nine years and Shop, 363 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: you've been around this game a long time. I can't 364 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: tell you based on down a distance or hash mark, 365 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: what he's going to do is totally unpredictable and you go, 366 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: oh that formation, this okay, that's what this is going 367 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: to be. We see that in most teams and map 368 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: to your point, most coaches are the ones that this 369 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: is my system. Here's what we do. You're going to 370 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: run it. This guy's rare. Okay. Now let's shift on 371 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: and by the way, are Defending the Kingdom podcast. This 372 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: one is entitled the Andy Reid Bull Coach can be 373 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: the first player or coach, sorry, first coach in NFL 374 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: history to win a hundred games or two different franchises. 375 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: This week in Philadelphia, it's just poeting, it's crazy, and 376 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: it's the We got our Andy Reid Bull shirts on here. 377 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: Our jerseys are ready to play. But this is the 378 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: old adage, if you can't beat him, join him. Because 379 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: now Sean Barber becomes a linebacker on Andy Reid's team 380 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: in two thousand and two, I love this shop. You 381 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: become an Eagle and honestly, this is your best year 382 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: of your career. What is it now like being with 383 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: Andy Reid instead of him using his strengths against you. Well, 384 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: it became a time for me to basically go out 385 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: there and let my talents kind of show themselves. It 386 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: was a time at Washington where I was fitting in 387 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 1: the defense I was I was kind of becoming my 388 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: own learning what my strengths and weaknesses are. And I'm 389 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: going to Philadelphia got me a part. I was able 390 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: to join a defense that was already one of the 391 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: top defenses. But one part they were missing was a 392 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: playmaker at the wheel lineback position. And they told me 393 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: coming in that exactly what I was expected to come 394 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: in and do. They wasn't gonna slow down. They wasn't 395 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: gonna start. I'm not calling stuff or slow down. The 396 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: Blitz package for me, the train was going, it was 397 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: going one hundred miles an hour, and I was expected 398 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: to jump on. They wasn't gonna press the brakes slow 399 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: me down to anything. And so our blitz package was 400 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: something that it definitely showcased in my coverage ability. It 401 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: showcased my ability to make plays, but also that will 402 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: linebacker position allowed me to go sideline the sideline, stay 403 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: covered up and be a playmaker creating fumbles. I'm actually 404 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: getting a lot of tackles throughout the season. But with Andy, 405 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: I would say that the spice he added to the 406 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: defense was an air of patience knowing that you didn't 407 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: the play was gonna come this. Trust the system, trust 408 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: the defense. We dropped the system and to play for it. 409 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: For you to make a play, sometimes it's not yours. 410 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes we just need you to play within the defense 411 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: because we're setting a trap for the offense. And when 412 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: we want to set that trap and let that offense 413 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: walk into it, and it's time to set that trap 414 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: off you need to be able to not just knock 415 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: the ball down, but you need to go ahead and 416 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: make that picks and run and run back for a 417 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: pick six. And there was only certain amount of guys 418 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: they felt like we're cable of playing that position and 419 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: being putting that man. I played with some amazing guys 420 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: on that defense, but we had at such a level 421 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: of trust on all three levels, and that trust came 422 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: from Andy and Andy reid Man. He gifted us a 423 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: sense of trust, camaraderie, a sense of oneness in that 424 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: defense that was unlike any of the team I played for. 425 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: It shows up in your stats. I listen to these matts. Okay. 426 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: Two thousand and two, the star Man's Shop started all 427 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: sixteen games, sixteen sixty nine tackles. Okay, your career high. 428 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: You had a sack, two interceptions, including an eighty yard 429 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: pick six at Dallas at Dallas Cowboys. Was it who 430 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: was it against? Drew Bledsoell? No, I guess as the 431 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: old Dallas coach. I think listen against the Jason Garrett 432 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: j I think it was Jason. Okay, Wow, did you 433 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: totally know who it was? You know it? Two forced fumbles, 434 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: three fumble recoveries. More importantly, they win a divisional playoff match. 435 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: They get a buye beat Atlanta and divisional playoff game 436 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: and lose narrowly to Tampa Bay, who goes on to 437 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: win it Gruden taking Tony Dungee's team. But anyway, it's 438 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: neither here nor there. The point is, um, you got 439 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: that close to the smoke, the big show. Your thoughts 440 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: when you hear that Matt about Sean Barber thriving in 441 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: Andy Reid's system, Well, I'm not surprised, of course, but 442 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: I have actually a question for Sean based on all 443 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: of this, And I mean my thought here as we 444 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: talk a lot about culture and how coach read changes 445 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: the culture of places, and you've kind of touched on this, 446 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: but coach read isn't a big, raw raw guy. I mean, 447 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: he's not, you know, getting out there in the media 448 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: and screaming and yelling and all this stuff, or rolling 449 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: the team up with those kind of antics. But we 450 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: always hear about the culture that he has and how 451 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: he endears himself to his players. And I'm as curious 452 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: as a guy that played for him, what gave you 453 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: that trust in him, that he had your back and 454 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: that you wanted to play to your best of beer 455 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: buldies for him. I mean, I say, initially it was 456 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: the fact that I was coming off from injury. So 457 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: the reason I left Washington was because I had an 458 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: aco injury and I was rehabbing it and Redskins didn't 459 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: feel like I was gonna come back one hundred percent. 460 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: And the Eagles actually took a chance on me. They 461 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: took a chance. They saw enough of my rehab and 462 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: they felt comfortable with me getting back to one hundred percent, 463 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: And actually, I guess from playing him twice made enough 464 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: plays that they felt like that might be a good 465 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: addition to their team. Obviously, it comes under the mentorship 466 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: of Jim Johnson, God bless her soul, one of the 467 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: most aggressive defensive callers as far as his philosophy was 468 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: to put so much pressure on the offense. We were 469 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: gonna dictate from a defensive standpoint what we were going 470 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: to allow the offense to do. So this this whole 471 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: concept of offenses calling plays and then defenses having to react, 472 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: we totally flip that around three sixty. We made we 473 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: we totally took your offense and we created such a 474 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: pressure package that we made you eliminate offensive plays from 475 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: a defensive standpoint. That made my job a lot more easier. 476 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: And so from like I said, he as he made 477 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: analysis and he made he was able to like look 478 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: at my game and say, it's look, Sean, you go 479 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: sideline and sideline. You're so quick, so fast, you don't 480 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: have to be correct your first step. You can give 481 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: the offense account or two because you still have the 482 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: speed to make up for it and still make a play. 483 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: But what I can't have you do is be wrong, 484 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: because if you're wrong going to you're so fast, you're 485 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: gonna dislodge yourself about five yards and then you're gonna 486 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: leave that backdoor. Fatiki Barber and those red skins that 487 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: Stephen Davis is of the world, when they hit that 488 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: back door they're gonna go out to the the gate, so 489 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: we need you to protect our backside. And then if 490 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: you need to turn on that next level, getting that 491 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: next gear. You have great makeup speed, you have great 492 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: you can cover the field, but just don't don't, don't, don't, don't, 493 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: don't from the snap of the ball. Don't overreact this 494 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: way for the play to come to you. And like 495 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: I said, instinctively, um that defense was something, and you 496 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: can tell from the stats it became like my second nature. 497 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: That was the most fun I had my entire career 498 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: was playing with the Eagles under Jim Johnson and Nandy Reid. 499 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: I just love hearing that, right because when you think 500 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: about the confidence that he gives his players, you can 501 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: see that on the team here today. It's here's what 502 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: you're really good at. You're awesome, like your personality show, 503 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: and here are a few things to keep in mind 504 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: out there. And it shows year to year we see 505 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: players and other systems and other cultures they come here 506 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: and they truly blossom, and it's just a really cool 507 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: thing to see. I've heard many say exactly what you said, 508 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: They've had the most fun of their career playing for 509 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: this coach Andy Reid, and guys that were here when 510 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: he took over. Now let's advance it here because now 511 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: we're going to get to the Chiefs part of this 512 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: all right. In the fifteen years prior to Andy Reid's arrival, 513 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: the Chief's Kingdom won one hundred eighteen games and lost 514 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: one hundred thirty eight twenty games below five hundred and 515 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: fifteen years, so you're looking at about seven to ninety 516 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: six and tenies. There were some good years popping. We 517 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: all know that, and you played on a thirteen three team. 518 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: But he changed things immediately. I remember when I got 519 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: the text from Mark Donovan, He's coming and I'm thinking, Wow, 520 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Andy Reid is coming here. Everything changed, and it changed immediately. 521 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, I often said we were the dishes 522 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: on the Titanic. We were Phytoplankton. We were at the 523 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean at two and fourteen, and we 524 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: looked like it was a long way to three and thirteen, 525 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: and we go nine and zero is first year here. 526 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: It's phenomenal the impact that this guy has. So let's 527 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: talk about the transformation that happened here. Because people enjoy 528 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: success for a nine year period, all they think is 529 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: we're going to the playoffs and win Super Bowls. Wait 530 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: a minute, let's back up the truck and look at 531 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: this and realize the perspective here of what Andy Reid 532 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: has done from a historical context, better than a Hank 533 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: Stram beloved, better than the late Marty Schottenheimer beloved, any 534 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: coach that's coach for the Chiefs, none has done what 535 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: Andy Reid has done. So I remember back in twenty twelve, 536 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: I watched with my buddy in college. We watched every 537 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: single game, all sixty minutes of it, even the last 538 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: game of the year. So did I by the way, Yeah, 539 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: and you had to call it you and I yeah, 540 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: But you know I watched every single one of those games, 541 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: and all I wanted old Chiefs Kingdom wanted was a winner. 542 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: And we have this incredible fan base, we have this 543 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: incredible history, and we know that we're better than this. 544 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: We know it, you know, and we deserve it. And 545 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: when coach Reid came along, before he even coached a game, 546 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: I remember his opening press conference. I'm just a fan 547 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: back then. I'm watching it and just thinking to myself, Man, 548 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: everything is different now. You can just tell it's just 549 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: different now, and it's been that way, and it's just 550 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: as a fan of this team first and foremost, it 551 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: just makes everything worth it in the end, and it's 552 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: like we knew that we could get to this point. 553 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: And that's what I was thinking about when we won 554 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. I got 555 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: my patch here my wife or this during when she's 556 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: at super Bowl fifty four, so I think she has 557 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: to wear this to all of them moving forward. But 558 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: that's what I was thinking about, you know, is I 559 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: remember where we were and where I was as a fan, 560 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: and it's like, I'm not jumping ship. This is my 561 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: team and I love them. How do we figure things out? 562 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: And Coach Read figured it out and I knew it 563 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: from day one, and it's just so cool to know 564 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: that this guy has the ingredients necessary to create this 565 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: amazing recipe and then he does it for all these 566 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: years and the success that we've had to be the 567 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: team that we are now is just so much fun. 568 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: To the point where we're one and two and we're 569 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: like what one and two? What? And we know we'll 570 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: figure it out. We're not even panicking because we know 571 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: we have Coach Read at the helm. It's a very 572 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: special thing. Remember the old movie Pleasantville. Everything's in black 573 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: and white, of course, and as the movie goes on, 574 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: like people appear in color when they become enlightened. That's 575 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: the way this place was. Because it felt like we 576 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: were covered in coal dust and then being within a 577 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: week and a half he started to change things. And 578 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you shop because again more than 579 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: any you were here in the kingdom. But you saw 580 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: he's coming. You played for him, you played against him, 581 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: You played for him again in two thousand and six. 582 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: We're run out of time. We can't get into that story. 583 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: But the Burkholters and the Spags eventually, but they he 584 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: brought his village with him. Yeah, what were you thinking 585 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: when the Chiefs have Andy Reid is or coach. Now, 586 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: the perspective I can put on it is when I 587 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: got here in No. Three, four and five, there was 588 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: a great offense here, a great offense, and I was 589 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: almost deemed or christen to be a leader on the 590 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. With Greg Robinson in that defense, 591 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: there was you know, I can boldly and honestly say 592 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: there was not much trust in that defense from a 593 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 1: player to the coaching staff, whether it's from the d 594 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: line to linebackers, from a linebackers trusting that our secondary 595 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: can do what they were asked to do. And when 596 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: you go into a meeting room on a practice field 597 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: and you and you feel that there's a lack of 598 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: trust on the different levels, you know, sooner or later, yeah, 599 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: you might win a couple of ball games. And I 600 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: think that season right in two thousand three three, right 601 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: we started nine and oz went thirteen and three. But 602 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: something as meat as a player knew that that team 603 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: could not win it all. It couldn't, It couldn't be 604 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: a team to stay in the test of time because 605 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: it was so much mistrust. No one trusted day was 606 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: gonna be in the right position, or that the defensive 607 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: call was gonna be the right call for that situation 608 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: in the game. The one thing I knew that when 609 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: Andy Ree came to Kansas City, that one thing, that 610 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: trust was gonna be elimited. That lack of trust was 611 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: gonna be eliminated. I didn't know how long it was 612 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: gonna take. I didn't know how long the environment was 613 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna take for him to evolve and build that trust 614 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: between the offense, and defensive side of the ball, and 615 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: between the front office and the coaches and the coaches 616 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: and the players. But I knew if he had given 617 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: enough time and people just just just just eat what 618 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: he's feeding you, Right, It's about the players having time 619 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: to learn. It's about the environment of learning, alignment, assignment, 620 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: learning football philosophy, Taking guys, Taking guys who have been 621 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: told they are all this. Sometimes you gotta chop them 622 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,239 Speaker 1: down a few. You gotta chop them down and let 623 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: them see their faults, and then you gotta build them 624 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: back up. As a coach, you can't coach a guy 625 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: on the field. You gotta let him make some mistakes 626 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: to realize why he's making the mistakes. But then you 627 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: got to be bold enough and proud enough as a 628 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: coach to take that player to the side and find 629 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: out why did he do that? Why did he missed 630 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: up and go the wrong way, Why did that player 631 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: run that route short? Why was that ball overthrown? Like 632 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: all the different things. Some coaches and players don't They 633 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: don't communicate. They want to be watch the film and 634 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: they hope the coach don't see that play I missed 635 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: up And coach goes to the next play, and they 636 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he didn't see that play. He 637 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: didn't see the play where I was looking the wrong way. 638 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: I went the wrong way. When when it's an accountability 639 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: and you know it's a passion to be in truth 640 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: and honor and you just want the team to be successful, 641 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: even if it's at your own demise, you hold up, coach, 642 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: stop that play. Hey, I went the wrong way. I 643 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: had my eyes on that guard and when they went 644 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: that way, like which gaping I'm supposed to take? It's 645 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: a it's a passion for learning, and some coaches do 646 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: not build a culture that make guys feel comfortable even 647 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: showing that they don't know what they don't know. And 648 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: you and you go over and over again, assuming that 649 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: the guy to your left and the right knows what 650 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: they're supposed to do, until guess what, it's game day 651 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: and that offensive coordinate on that other team he tweaks 652 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: to play instead of the guard pulling, the center pools 653 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: and we got two linebackers going to the gap and 654 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: nobody in the C gap and it goes for six 655 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: and we're on the sideline looking like, what what do 656 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: we do wrong? Who hit the wrong gap? Nobody has 657 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: any accountability. Nobody wants to step up and say, hey, 658 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: I read the wrong person I read the wrong gap, 659 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: I ran the wrong personnel. Oh, I lined up in 660 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: the wrong place, I execute it wrong. There's a there's 661 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: a there's a level of trust here. Everybody is sacrificing, 662 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: working at butts off on a daily basis, do things 663 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: the right way. And that's something that coach Read since 664 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: day one is brought here and I knew when he 665 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: brought that here. We had the personnel. We had the personnel, 666 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: but all we needed was that trust and that accountability. 667 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: And he's married both of those things to create a 668 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: what we had in the middle of a dynasty. And 669 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: I'll add there to that accountability is behind closed doors, 670 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: which I think is super important because how often do 671 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: you see coaches call out players in the media or 672 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: call out players outside of the building. That doesn't do 673 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: anything for accountability. That just makes a guy be down 674 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: on himself and then you have mistrust. Coach Read will 675 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: go out and say, this is all my responsibility. The 676 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: behind closed doors address the issues, and that's so important. 677 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: But while he addresses the issues, he creates horizontal accountability 678 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: in his locker room. He knows that's important that he 679 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: can't win without that. It can't just be the coach alone. 680 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: We'll close this way. One of my first conversations with him, 681 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: because you spurred this thought is shop as I said, coach, 682 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: because we were in a one on one. I said, 683 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: it just seems like the league is turning into almost distrust, 684 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: like instead of starting at zero, and I've got to 685 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: earn shops trust and Matt's trust, like you're starting at 686 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: negative five. He goes, no, I don't necessarily agree with that. 687 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: It depends on the environment that you're in. Now I 688 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: can see what you're saying a little bit. Things have 689 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: changed in this league. But he goes, just, it's not 690 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: necessarily that, like, don't start at minus five. Now, I'm 691 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: gonna let you start at zero. Might give you plus one. 692 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: But he immediately said, I'm gonna hold you accountable. I 693 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: saw that look in his eye, and I got like 694 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: I had to go to the bathroom real fast. But 695 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: it's also something special in him and I saw it, 696 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: and starting in the first couple of weeks he was here, 697 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: I thought, we're gonna win, and we won Philadelphia one. 698 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: The Chiefs have won and now the two play each other, 699 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: ironically with Andy Reid can make National Football League history 700 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: if he gets his one hundred win with the Chiefs, 701 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: and he did so with the Eagles. No, their coach 702 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: has done that in the history of the league. Yes, 703 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: it's the Andy Reid Bowl. Thanks to my man's shop, 704 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: Sean Barber, thanks to my man Matt McMullen, and honestly, folks, 705 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: don't let this thought pass by. This is a moment 706 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: in National Football League history. The Andy Reid Bowl coming 707 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: up on Sunday. Thanks for joining us on this edition 708 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: of Defending the Kingdom. My Mitch Holter's voice. The Chiefs 709 00:33:42,000 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: touch down and the celebration begins in their head.