1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: It's time to take cash a cheater only on the. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: Jubil show, Time for to Catch a Cheater. And Noah 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: is on the phone today. He's been dating his girlfriend 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: Evelyn for six months, but now he thinks something might 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: be going on. So see if we can help him out. 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: Know what's up? Man? 7 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 3: What's going on with you in Evelyn? 8 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 4: Hi? 9 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know something. 10 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 5: I our relationships kind of hit hit a wall if 11 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 5: you will. 12 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. 13 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 5: Everything was good for the whole six months and there's 14 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 5: not been a ton of snags, but as of late, 15 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 5: she's been different. She's going out, she's texting people that 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 5: she won't tell me in the yard, but I can 17 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 5: tell looking at her phone that it's a guy, you know, like, oh, 18 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 5: is that just a friend? 19 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: I don't know who that that is. 20 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 5: She'll go out with a group of friends and like 21 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 5: I can see, you know, she'll post pictures and she 22 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 5: and then I'll ask her about like what she did, 23 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 5: and she won't tell me every when she was out 24 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 5: with I don't know. Things have gotten quiet in the 25 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 5: bedroom and I don't know I did something. But yeah, 26 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 5: it just seems like she's not as committed to doing this. 27 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 5: I don't know any things just took off, you know, right, 28 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 5: like kind of like Gray where we met. You know, 29 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 5: we met this at a bar hanging out, and we 30 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 5: have the same kind of sense of humor. Everything was 31 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 5: going pretty well, we'd go out on dates all the time, 32 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 5: and things are just sort of slowed down. 33 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, do you feel like there's really a 34 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: problem or is that part of like the natural progression 35 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: of a relationship. 36 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I can't tell. I mean, I 37 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: haven't noticed. 38 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 5: There hasn't been anything on my end that made me 39 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 5: feel any differently. 40 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Or anything that I can think that caused it. 41 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 5: But there just seems to be like a switch flips 42 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden it's like, oh, she's going 43 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 5: out and I'm just I don't know, there's like I'm 44 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 5: less a part of us than it used to be. 45 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: Why why are you thinking specifically she might be cheating 46 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: though if she couldn't be just kind of like not 47 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: in the not really into it anymore. 48 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 6: She'll she'll put her phone away a lot when I'm 49 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 6: like trying to ask her questions about like oh, are 50 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 6: you going out with friends or like she seems just 51 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 6: very evasive when I ask about like what she's been 52 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 6: doing or like who she's going out with. 53 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 5: You know, I'll try to do stuff to like make 54 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 5: create a mood or like get her in the mood 55 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 5: for you know, especially in the you know, in the bedroom, 56 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 5: like it just there just seems to be less of, like. 57 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: Less into anything I try to do. 58 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 5: I don't know, it just seems like the things that 59 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 5: I'm trying to do, she seems not just not into 60 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 5: in a way that's like I'd be I'd rather be elsewhere, 61 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 5: or she just seems outside of it. 62 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: That is that is crushing feeling. Yeah, and when someone 63 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: starts to change their phone behavior that is usually kind 64 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: of a red flag something's going on, whether it's cheating 65 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: or not. 66 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 5: She puts it away really fast, and I'm like, oh, not. 67 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: A little suspicious. 68 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Well we'll see if we can 69 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: figure it out for you. You already told us what 70 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: grocery store she's a rewards card member at, So we'll 71 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: call pretend to be from the grocery store and tell 72 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: her that she's the lucky winner. Every month, we choose 73 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: one random rewards card member who gets free flowers delivered 74 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: from our full department. We'll see if she sends that 75 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: to you or to someone else. Is there anybody that 76 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: you suspect at all? 77 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: It could be this guy writer. She's always hanging out 78 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: with this guy, right, and I don't really trust this guy. 79 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: Okay, was writer in the picture before you. 80 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 5: He's been friends with her longer, and like, I just 81 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 5: don't get a good vibe from him when a few 82 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 5: times that we've all hung out together. 83 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: Is he in a relationship? He is not in a relationship, Okay, Okay, yeah, 84 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: that's all right. 85 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: Well man, well hopefully she's not. But we'll try and 86 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: figure it out for you. Okay, we'll play a song, 87 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: come back and get your to catch a teeter next 88 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: if you're just joining us for a to catch a cheater. 89 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: Noah is on the phone and he thinks that his 90 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: girlfriend of six months might be cheating. So we're about 91 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: to call her and pretend to be from the grocery 92 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: store that she shops at and say that Every month, 93 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: we choose one random Rewards card member who gets free 94 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: flowers delivered from our Florida department, and she will see 95 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: if she sends those to Noah or to somebody else. 96 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: But before we do that, NOA, why don't you catch 97 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: everybody up on your situation. 98 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 99 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 5: So we've been going out. Evelyn and I have been 100 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 5: going up for about six months. Things have been great 101 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,559 Speaker 5: for the most part, and all of a sudden, she's 102 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 5: been kind of weird with it who she's going out with, 103 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 5: and being evasive about like answering me and kind of 104 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 5: not wanting me to see what's on her phone all 105 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 5: the time. And I just I'm getting a live that 106 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 5: she's kind of on the way out of this and. 107 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 3: There is somebody we're suspicious of. Right, what was his 108 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 3: name again? 109 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: His name's writer? 110 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: All right, man, Well, are you ready for us to 111 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: try to call her? 112 00:04:51,720 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Hello. 113 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: Hi, this is Gorbyn calling from I was looking for 114 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: our Rewards card member named Evelyn. 115 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: Oh Hi, this is she. 116 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: Hi Evelyn, Please don't hang up. This is not a 117 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: marketing phone call. I'm actually calling to tell you congratulations. 118 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: Here this month's winner. 119 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 4: Well that's awesome, heany what did I win? Oh? 120 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: Well, every single month we choose one Lucky Rewards Card 121 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: member to say thank you very much for being such 122 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: a loyal customer by giving you free flowers delivered from 123 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 2: our floral department. You've won thirty six long stem red roses, 124 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: a box of candy or chocolates, and a card to 125 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: be delivered to anybody that you want. 126 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: Ooh okay, well that's awesome. 127 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 2: Here's how we do it so I can take the 128 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: information over the phone in a matter of minutes. 129 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: If you know who you want to send it to 130 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: right now. 131 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 4: Well, I tend to just send it to myself, but 132 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: I'm going to send it to my friend Macey. 133 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: Would you like to put anything on a card with that? Yeah? 134 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: Love you girl. 135 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 5: He it. 136 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: You don't need a man who treats you like that. 137 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: Oh boy, Yeah, I'm so sorry she's going through that. 138 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: Well, Evelyn, it's at this point I'm just gonna let 139 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: you know this is not the grocery store. 140 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: This is actually Jewble. I host a radio show. It's 141 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: called The Jebel Show. Hi, Evelyn, I'm Nina. Also on 142 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 3: the show. Hi, and I'm Victoria. 143 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: Okay, your boyfriend Noah is on the phone. 144 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: Actually. Oh, and we do a segment on the show. 145 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: It's called to catch a Cheaters. 146 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: If you think somebody might be messing around, we see 147 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: if they send flowers to somebody other than their significant other. 148 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: And that's what this is. 149 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: Oh wow, you called the radio. You had a radio station? 150 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: Call me? 151 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, what you think I'm cheating on you? 152 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 4: On you? 153 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. 154 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 5: You've not been super upfront with me about like some 155 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 5: of the people that you are hanging out with. I mean, 156 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 5: you were gonna send the flowers to me, and you 157 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 5: know how I feel about her? 158 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: I didn't. That's kind of weird. I don't know. She's 159 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: not the best like influence on you. I think when 160 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: you guys hang out, I don't know. 161 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: That's why I sometimes I don't tell you who I'm 162 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: hanging out with. You don't seem to like my friends. 163 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: I just wish you could talk to me. I don't know. 164 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 5: I just you know, I just want what's best for you. 165 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 5: And like when you don't talk to me about stuff 166 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 5: and makes me kind of like question stuff I don't know. 167 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 5: And like, also, you know, you'll be on your phone 168 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 5: a lot and I'll ask you, like, oh, who you're 169 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 5: talking to or like what's who you hang. 170 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: And she'll you'll put your phone away really cool fast. 171 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 5: And I'm I just even acting kind of weird when 172 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 5: I talk about your friends and like not giving me 173 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 5: like all the information. 174 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: So are you cheating on Oh No, I'm not cheating 175 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: on you at all. 176 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: I just I've been hanging out with my friend lately 177 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: who's been going through a lot, and I know that 178 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: you don't like her, and I feel like there's it 179 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 4: just seems to upset you or get anxious when I 180 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: hang out with her and or when I hang out 181 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: with certain people. So I just kind of I don't know. 182 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: I don't want to stop hanging out with them, they're 183 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: my friends, but I guess I just thought if I don't, 184 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 4: if I like keep it from you, then I just 185 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: want to upset you and I can kind of keep 186 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: those things separate. It just seems like, well, it's upsetting. 187 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: You, So I don't really know. 188 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just kind of feel like you. 189 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 4: Don't trust me, and obviously you don't. I mean, obviously 190 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 4: you don't trust me to the point where you're trying 191 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 4: to get people to find out if I'm cheating and 192 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: that I'm not. It's a little bit like it's a 193 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 4: lot for me to it's kind of overwhelming for me. 194 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 5: Well that's why that's why I try, you know, sometimes, 195 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 5: you know, or just in bed together, I'll try to 196 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 5: start something or I'll try to, you know, do stuff 197 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 5: to show you that I'm still in this and I'm 198 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 5: trying to. 199 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: Bring some you know, a different food or you know. 200 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 5: Create a moment, and you just like kind of aren't 201 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 5: receptive to some of the stuff I do. 202 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 203 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 4: I guess the insecurities that I've seen from you, it 204 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 4: kind of is a turn off for me, and it's 205 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 4: kind of I guess made me of this. And I 206 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 4: like you and everything, it's just the constant worrying about 207 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 4: me going out with my friends, and it's just not 208 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 4: a turn on for me that you don't really seem 209 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 4: to have confidence in us or yourself. 210 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can see that now. Honestly, I might have 211 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 5: overreacted in this moment. It feels like I'm doing too 212 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 5: much and I kind of see that. So this this 213 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 5: is a lot to put. 214 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: On you and I. I guess I could have just 215 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: been more openly communicative. 216 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: Instead of maybe I know, you know, we're we're not 217 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: getting married and we aren't like you know, and that's. 218 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Like toxic dark hole. 219 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 4: But maybe we should get counseling. 220 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: Other if you you. 221 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: Know, be for that. 222 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 5: Well, I guess I can take the ring I got you. 223 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 5: I guess I could take back to the ring and 224 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 5: use that towards therapy. 225 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: I was just it was a joke. You know, I'm 226 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: bad with jokes. I'm just. 227 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, But yeah, I do think that's a good idea. 228 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 5: I think we should do that, because you know, I do. 229 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 5: I want to stay with you and I don't want 230 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 5: to mess this up, So I think that would be 231 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 5: really a good idea. 232 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: I want to do with you too, and I don't 233 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: want to mess it up. 234 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: Well, sweet hey, at least no way. You know, she's 235 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: not cheating and not down for that. And I think 236 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: it's great if you guys go counting together. You don't 237 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: have to be having like big problems to start counting 238 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: just together. I think it's great. I think everybody should 239 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: help the conversation. And also maybe Noah can hang out 240 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: with you sometimes, Evelyn. 241 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jubile shows to catch a cheater