WEBVTT - The Dr. Chandra Richardson Episode Part.1

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<v Speaker 1>You know, boys, it's back and reoded all in your mind. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not deep throating. This is for the streets, the reel,

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<v Speaker 1>the railroading, the distant franchise, the truth escape building, and

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<v Speaker 1>they ain't knowing we speak the truth, so they ain't

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<v Speaker 1>quoted because we wrote it. The North South East coat

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<v Speaker 1>g be my twe keeping your head bothering, it ain't

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<v Speaker 1>no stopping and wants to be drops head by. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the system is so corrupt they throw the rock

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<v Speaker 1>out of their heads and then blame it on us.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get it twisted on code and we danced for

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<v Speaker 1>no frontament biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar faces not

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<v Speaker 1>in the building, but I got his back. Collectively we

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<v Speaker 1>are the ghetto Boys. Reloaded with another episode of information

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<v Speaker 1>and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful world. In the studio, Dctor Chandra Richardson that afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>you got one of those names that the people gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be mindful. It's it's Chandra, not Chandra. Yes, sir, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's correct. How you feel. I'm great. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>allowing me to have the opportunity to be here and

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you and to share what may be important

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<v Speaker 1>to some and not so much to others. Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I like how you said that this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>about to be very very interesting. You have a very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting life. Some would say yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Houston native born in the trade. I always

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<v Speaker 1>tell my students Third War to the day I die.

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<v Speaker 1>Raised in Sunnyside. What's so special about the third Ward

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<v Speaker 1>Sunny Side? It's it's home um Home Street, Baptist Church,

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<v Speaker 1>a little kid, the big tree on the corner, my

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<v Speaker 1>my uncle playing dominoes. My grandfather had an auto mechanic

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<v Speaker 1>shop in the neighborhood. My father in law didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to be my father in law. He

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<v Speaker 1>also had an auto mechanic shop in the neighborhood. They

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<v Speaker 1>were actually best friends. And of course Jackie's high school. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you raised with your mother and father. It was

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<v Speaker 1>my mother, my grandmother and my grandfather your grandfather. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now where's your father? Going on to glory that way

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, where was your father? I never knew

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<v Speaker 1>it was growing up. In actuality, I didn't find out

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<v Speaker 1>until right about three years ago who my father was.

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<v Speaker 1>M hmm. He was never in the scene. So did

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<v Speaker 1>you find out before he died? No, I was the

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<v Speaker 1>secret child, and I actually was okay with it as

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<v Speaker 1>an adult, but somewhere in the back of my mind

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<v Speaker 1>there was always that I wonder, I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>who My mother took the identity of my father to

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<v Speaker 1>her grave. She died, it'll be it will actually be

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<v Speaker 1>three years in May, and um, I just wanted to know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I stepped out and did what you see people

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<v Speaker 1>do on TV. I did ANCESTR DNA and next thing

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<v Speaker 1>you know, someone was reaching out to me and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a female and I said, well, she's definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>my dad. But we communicated and we talked, and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have any family in Beaumont? I said no.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, well what about Louisiana. No. Keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I only know my mother's side, so all the people

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<v Speaker 1>in places she was naming meant nothing to me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm looking for a male and obviously he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to be somewhere close to my mother's

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<v Speaker 1>eight each and my mother's not telling me anything. At

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<v Speaker 1>that particular time, my mother was still alive, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was never a subject that she wanted to discuss. So

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<v Speaker 1>the young lady that I kept talking to, she said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me do some more research. Well, she was really

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<v Speaker 1>into ancestry DNA, and she dug deeper and deeper and deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, okay, I got some names. And I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that means nothing because I I have nothing. My birth

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<v Speaker 1>certificate says I know. So she said, well there's this

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<v Speaker 1>person that again nothing and I said, uh, well, my

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<v Speaker 1>birthday October nineteen fifty nine, and surely they would have

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<v Speaker 1>to be older than me. So the dates that she

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<v Speaker 1>was coming up with were within a year or two

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<v Speaker 1>of me. And I said, well, definitely not my dad. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no relationship. So she said, well, let me ask my

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<v Speaker 1>mom to do the DNA test. She actually asked her mother,

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<v Speaker 1>and her mother did the DNA test and it came

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<v Speaker 1>back that we were half siblings, and she asked her aunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Test came back, we were half siblings. She asked her

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<v Speaker 1>other aunt. Test came back, we're half siblings. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>well that means you're my aunt and my grandfather was

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<v Speaker 1>your father. So she actually set everything up. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting right during the Christmas holidays. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>this was almost three years ago, and my half sisters

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<v Speaker 1>and the half brother all showed up. All of our

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<v Speaker 1>parents were deceased, and I look like them. M I

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<v Speaker 1>looked exactly like them. And then uh, my niece named Michelle,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, what about the little toe? Was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>about the little toe? She said, let's see your little toe.

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<v Speaker 1>These people are must be crazy. Okay, I showed him

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<v Speaker 1>a little too. That's Grandpa's told that's the toe. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she is ours, she is ours. So I found out

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<v Speaker 1>I have these half sisters and a half brother and

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<v Speaker 1>lots of nieces and nephews, and uh, everyone was very welcoming.

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<v Speaker 1>But I told him up front, I said, please understand,

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<v Speaker 1>I want nothing from you. I am whole, I am healed,

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<v Speaker 1>I know who I am, but I wanted to find

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<v Speaker 1>out who the unknown was and ancestor. DNA has the

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<v Speaker 1>disclaimer that says, please be prepared because the results that

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<v Speaker 1>you received may not be the ones that you expect.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got what I did not expect, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of siblings and cousins and nieces and nephews.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's okay, but we're very friendly. Every now and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll get together. But I was raised as an

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<v Speaker 1>only child. So for me, I'm good. I don't get

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone and call a lot. We make text

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<v Speaker 1>every now and then just to say hi or how

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing? But it's nice to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>fill in the blank and know who unknown was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>blens do you have but wherever you my father? The

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<v Speaker 1>four half sisters and one half brother. One half brothers

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<v Speaker 1>deceased and one half sister is deceased, and it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Now is it fair to call them half brothers and

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<v Speaker 1>half sisters like you know, like biologically? Yes? Well, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have four sisters and brothers and we have three.

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy is between us and we. I've never called them

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<v Speaker 1>my half brother my half sisters. Why do we say

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<v Speaker 1>that if, like if the dad have like we have kids, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a sibling, that's by where of your

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<v Speaker 1>dad will say half? But if it's mama, we just

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<v Speaker 1>say that's my siblings, right exactly? Is that fair? I

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<v Speaker 1>think all is fair in love and war. But nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>I could have come up with any number of names

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<v Speaker 1>referred to my father, my biological father, and my story

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<v Speaker 1>was always centered around I don't know who my earthly

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<v Speaker 1>father is, but I know who my heavenly father is.

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<v Speaker 1>So I found out who my earthly father was, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll still say my father. The best part is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not angry. I wasn't angry then and I'm still not

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<v Speaker 1>angry now. Um I can't say that for some of

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<v Speaker 1>the members who were upset to find out that I existed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, well, I'll just call it what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the bastard child. I was the one who

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<v Speaker 1>was kept the secret. I was the one who was

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<v Speaker 1>literally poor. But I was never made to feel that

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<v Speaker 1>way with my mother and my my grandmother and grandfather.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you feel growing up like not knowing who

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<v Speaker 1>your father was. Do you think that that affected your

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<v Speaker 1>childhood at all? I didn't miss. It's kind of hard

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<v Speaker 1>to miss what you didn't have because my my grandfather,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, she was amazing. He was the best

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<v Speaker 1>grandfather ever. But the flip side of the story is

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<v Speaker 1>I found out through doing ancestor DNA he was not

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<v Speaker 1>my biological grandfather. He was not my mother's father. He

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<v Speaker 1>was someone that married my grandmother when she was fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>or fifteen years old because my grandmother had had a

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<v Speaker 1>baby and her parents told her she needed someone to

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<v Speaker 1>help take care of her and her baby. And how

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<v Speaker 1>old was he when he married your grandmother in his thirties?

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<v Speaker 1>M but he loved me beyond measure. Your great grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>told your grandmother she needs she got pregnant by your

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<v Speaker 1>biological daddy and grandfather, right, they subsequently had gotten killed.

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<v Speaker 1>They told a fifteen year old girl she needs to

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<v Speaker 1>marry this thirty year old guy so he can take

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<v Speaker 1>care of the baby exactly. You know, that wouldn't fly today,

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<v Speaker 1>But that was a different time, that was a different

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<v Speaker 1>show that that definitely that definitely would not fly today.

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<v Speaker 1>So you are a military woman, you are educator, you

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<v Speaker 1>um an activist. That's fair. Where does all this come from? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I say there's a an inner spirit where being. And

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<v Speaker 1>only many times you don't have anybody to talk for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have anybody to talk up for you. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said that it seems like I just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stumbled my way into blessings. They weren't just there on

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<v Speaker 1>the table for me to say, oh, let me get

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<v Speaker 1>that or let me pick that one up. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I just knew I was cared for by

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<v Speaker 1>my grandmother and my grandfather, and that if I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>speak up, I wouldn't get anything. Sometimes if I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>open my mouth, going back to the scriptures, a close

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<v Speaker 1>mouth doesn't get fed. So I had to start learning

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<v Speaker 1>because that wasn't at the beginning. But as I got older,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to open up and say I want to,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to, I have to, I must, And more

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<v Speaker 1>times than not, I did and also received whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>was I was asking for. But if I didn't say anything,

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<v Speaker 1>well I got nothing or I didn't get what I

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<v Speaker 1>want or what I expected. Mm hmm. So walked me

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<v Speaker 1>into the moment that you decided that the military was

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<v Speaker 1>your calling. I was a student at Houston Community College.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to actually decided that I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>a surgical technologist, and I was going to school for that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was doing pretty decently. I had one instructor

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<v Speaker 1>who sailf Honey, you'll never make it in this profession.

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<v Speaker 1>You're too slow. You don't know what you're doing. And

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<v Speaker 1>she was not a person of African American descent, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>put it that way. And we just called her the

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<v Speaker 1>dragon Lady because she was. She cut people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she cut you in your mind. She knew how to

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<v Speaker 1>say things to you to be offensive and make you

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<v Speaker 1>want to quit and make you want to drop out,

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<v Speaker 1>and literally used that h worth to hate words. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, this lady. What is wrong with her? Something

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<v Speaker 1>that's wrong world. You don't talk to people like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't treat people like that. And I wasn't good

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<v Speaker 1>at what I was doing, and it was hard for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was determined she was not going to make

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<v Speaker 1>me quit. If I wanted to quit, that was me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wasn't going to let her, a person, make

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<v Speaker 1>me quit. So I just started working harder. And one

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<v Speaker 1>day she came in she said, oh, y'all, guess what

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<v Speaker 1>I did. And we're like what she said, I signed

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<v Speaker 1>up for the Navy. Oh, and I'm gonna have these

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<v Speaker 1>cute little uniforms and I'm gonna make all this extra

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<v Speaker 1>money and I'm gonna do this a lot extra money.

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<v Speaker 1>That that sounds kind of good to me. So next

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<v Speaker 1>thing you know, I finished the program and I got

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<v Speaker 1>certified and I was actually working in the hospital scrubbing

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<v Speaker 1>as a surgical tech. My favorite was labor and delivery,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could do cardiovascular surgery without blinking an eye

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<v Speaker 1>because I had grown into it. I learned to love it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got your PhD before you went to No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the last. This was on the last leg

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<v Speaker 1>of the career. So I actually went to a recruiter

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<v Speaker 1>and said, well, my teacher says she was enlisting and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to find out about doing that. And the

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<v Speaker 1>guy said, okay, uh, what do you do? And I

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<v Speaker 1>told him. He said you have certification. I said yes.

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<v Speaker 1>He said you have a degree, and said yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>have associates degree and my associate's degree was in biology.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to have a medical field, so he said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>sign here, and I said, well, do I have to

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<v Speaker 1>do all the stuff that everybody else has to do.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, well, we'll write that in so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do a lot of the initial things. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said okay, So I signed up. That was all

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<v Speaker 1>she wrote and I was in for a minute. And

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<v Speaker 1>next thing you know, came there as a storm and

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<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to ship out, and at that time

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<v Speaker 1>I had gone to the what we used to have

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<v Speaker 1>facilities on OST. I went to OST to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>my sea bag and I had to do all the

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<v Speaker 1>medical tests to go out. That's the Green Military Duffel

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<v Speaker 1>bag where you put everything, that's the value, your whole

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<v Speaker 1>life is in there, right. I still have mine, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't have my tags. I don't know where they are.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got my bag. I got my bag. So

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<v Speaker 1>um I went and they called me into another area

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<v Speaker 1>and so, okay, we're doing some tests and we're not

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<v Speaker 1>sure about these tests. We need to do some more

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<v Speaker 1>tests they're talking about. And they said, oh, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ship out. You need to go over to this

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<v Speaker 1>other room. What the heck? Why? Why? I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. Well, I was pregnant and didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>I was pregnant. My grandmother subsequently, right about that time,

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<v Speaker 1>had passed away. She has to come to breast cancer

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been with her all my life. And I

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<v Speaker 1>started to feel bad, really really bad. Need to send.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandfather passed away when I was about nine or

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<v Speaker 1>ten years old, but my grandmother that was that was

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<v Speaker 1>my rock, and I just I just couldn't shake the funk.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I couldn't stop crying. I was feeling bad,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, Okay, it's the it's the death. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's the death. But when the Navy people said,

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<v Speaker 1>and I say, oh, I know that can't be true.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to the doctor, who actually was the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor that I was working with on a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the surgeries, and she said, okay, we're gonna do the

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<v Speaker 1>test and uh, congratulations. No y'all are in the wrong room.

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<v Speaker 1>That's no, no, that's that's not mean, that's and no,

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<v Speaker 1>that is you. And I started crying. She said, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you crying for? You know what you did. What

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<v Speaker 1>you're crying for? I said, well that she was a

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<v Speaker 1>very wonderful woman, needless to say, and I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this wasn't what I was expecting. She said, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to get yourself together and decide what you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do. If we're going to have a baby, I

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<v Speaker 1>will help you and we will have a help healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>happy baby. If you're not going to have the baby,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do that, but I will send you somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>where they take care of that. And then I started

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<v Speaker 1>crying even more. She said, Okay, I'm gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>about two more minutes to get it together and stop crying.

0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I said, do I have to make up my mind today?

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<v Speaker 1>Because at that time, my daughter's father and I we

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<v Speaker 1>were not together. I had discovered right about the time

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<v Speaker 1>that my grandmother had passed away, that he was a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of person that I don't want to spend the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of my life with. And he was doing things

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<v Speaker 1>that I was not agreeing with, and he was an

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<v Speaker 1>habitual liar. And I started catching him more and more

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<v Speaker 1>and more right about that time, and I said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's over. We're done. I can't do this with

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<v Speaker 1>you anymore. And he was like, oh, it's it's just

0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.359
<v Speaker 1>your emotions. Your home a little that I know it

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<v Speaker 1>was my emotions, that my hormones was still the veil

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<v Speaker 1>had been pulled away, and I realized, he's a idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot do this, I cannot knowingly do this, so

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll just be on my own. And his family

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<v Speaker 1>was adamant that if I chose not to with him,

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<v Speaker 1>they would not help me. When I said, okay, that's fine,

0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll be all right because I had a job, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a career and I had a degree, so

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<v Speaker 1>Navy it was on whole. I went back to working

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<v Speaker 1>in the hospital. I worked all the way up until

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<v Speaker 1>it was time to have my baby. Had my baby

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<v Speaker 1>there in the hospital, my mom was there to support

0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:29.280
<v Speaker 1>me and my baby was ill and I was ill.

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<v Speaker 1>I stayed in the hospital maybe about a week. When

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<v Speaker 1>we came home, she was very jaundice and my blood

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<v Speaker 1>pressure was through the roof. Never had blood pressure problems,

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<v Speaker 1>and just for whatever reason, things were not going as

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<v Speaker 1>well as we had thought. Next thing, you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>about a week or two later, baby and I are

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<v Speaker 1>out and we're going to visit the nurse who helped

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<v Speaker 1>deliver my daughter, because till this day that's over thirty years,

0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.879
<v Speaker 1>were still very good friends, and someone rear ended me,

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<v Speaker 1>at which point I went back up in the hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>staying there another two weeks, and my baby was home.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was going through it all kinds of ways

0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:12.879
<v Speaker 1>because I couldn't see her, I couldn't be around her.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to bond with her, so my friends would

0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:20.480
<v Speaker 1>bring her for me to see her. And obviously I've recovered,

0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:24.800
<v Speaker 1>because here I am, but I was not necessarily in

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<v Speaker 1>the best of physical shape. And I was told because

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<v Speaker 1>of the car accident that I could not go back

0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.280
<v Speaker 1>into the career that I've had, which was surgery. And

0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.880
<v Speaker 1>if you see the TV shows, people are standing, they're

0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.000
<v Speaker 1>not sitting doing surgery. So they said well, no, that

0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't be good for you. And I thought, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, what am I supposed to do? I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought about not doing that, and now I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>baby to take care of. So my military connections said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you got a lot of college hours. Have

0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:03.119
<v Speaker 1>you ever thought about teaching? Teaching? Teaching? What? That's not

0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.560
<v Speaker 1>what I planned on doing. I don't even know how

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. And they said, well, we got g

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<v Speaker 1>I money, got military benefits. We'll pay for you to

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<v Speaker 1>go to school. And are you still enjoying the benefits

0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:27.080
<v Speaker 1>of military in a roundabout way? Not? Because he was right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's a work in progress. I'm sorry. Where

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<v Speaker 1>how long were you in the military? I got credit

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<v Speaker 1>for eight years honorable discharge. H But I see, well

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<v Speaker 1>that's more than what a few people I know that's

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<v Speaker 1>eating good off off their military benefits. I mean they should.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's the that's next. If you need some help

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<v Speaker 1>to I know somebody who's very very good and get you.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember what I said about the clothes mouth doesn't get fed.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll say it right now. I need some help.

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<v Speaker 1>I got and I'm ready to receive it. Absolutely. We

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<v Speaker 1>shall talk after this agree boys reloaded podcast will be

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<v Speaker 1>right back after the pot Let's go back to the military.

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<v Speaker 1>While serving in the military, did you ever experience any

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<v Speaker 1>type of sexual harassment in the military, Because I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big deal. That scares me about women in

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<v Speaker 1>the military, because I have family members who are in

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<v Speaker 1>the military or female, and that always scared the hell

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<v Speaker 1>out of me about that. How pervasive it is. You

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<v Speaker 1>ever experienced something like that, um to the degree of

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<v Speaker 1>where it was flirtatious, only no one ever put their

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<v Speaker 1>hands on me. I was never in an area where

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<v Speaker 1>I was isolated or secluded where I had to concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about my safety. Yeah, so I was blessed in that

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.440
<v Speaker 1>aspect that didn't happen to me. But as far as

0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote hitting on me, oh heck, yeah, that was

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>all the time and perverse conversations or just inappropriate language. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Are you familiar with the case of Levina Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>Vina Johnson, she's a black woman who was found murdered

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and five. She was found murdered in

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<v Speaker 1>a tent that was owned by UM was a k

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<v Speaker 1>KBR you know, Ronnie Route who at the time it

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<v Speaker 1>was a it was a time, Yeah, it was at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. It was a subsidiary of had A buried. Yeah,

0:22:54.400 --> 0:23:03.200
<v Speaker 1>so she her death was rude a suicide. But checked

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<v Speaker 1>this out. The autopsy found that she First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>they said that she committed suicide with the with the

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<v Speaker 1>M sixteen rifle. She's a right handed woman. The bullet

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<v Speaker 1>wound was on the left side of her head. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a right handed woman. The bullet wounds on the left

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<v Speaker 1>side of her head. And they said she killed herself

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<v Speaker 1>for the rifle. They found lacerations on a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on a private areas. They found on her face, they

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:42.399
<v Speaker 1>found they somebody put some type of flammable liquid on

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 1>her body. They burned her. Uh, they poured died on

0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 1>her vagina. Uh. They did a bad They did a

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<v Speaker 1>real bad and they told the parents. They told the

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:58.960
<v Speaker 1>family that it was suicide. And as far as I know,

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<v Speaker 1>the families still don't have justice. And uh and then

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>recently here uh fort Hood. Uh, they had the case

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:16.360
<v Speaker 1>of Vanessa Yea who you know, was murdered and they

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>tried they she was brutally murdered, decapitated, and they uh

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<v Speaker 1>just totally ignored the evidence. And that was people are

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>saying like this, God, right here is a suspect held,

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you should talk to him, and they just totally ignored it.

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like and I and and that's just that's just

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<v Speaker 1>uh two cases. But I see it's very very rare.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember reading something where it said that it

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<v Speaker 1>was like out of the like it was like ninety

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 1>nine six women who was murdered who died like in

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:06.680
<v Speaker 1>in in in Iraq, uh and Afghanistan. It was like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six of those women something around that number, like

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 1>about thirty six of those women were uh, we're murdered. Uh,

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 1>we're murdered outside of combat, so it was unco it

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<v Speaker 1>was non combat related. So and almost all of them

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<v Speaker 1>were raped. There was some type of rape involved. You know, America,

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll say America has a major problem with rape. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean day one, we could go all the way back

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<v Speaker 1>to slavery, but even today, people get excited when certain

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>people get convicted or accused of rape or whatever. They

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>want to bring them down or whatever. But I would

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<v Speaker 1>dare say that this country really don't care about victims

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<v Speaker 1>of rape because, uh, last I check, of all rape

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 1>kits in America are sitting in evidence rooms. Untested. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was just curious about that when I first when

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I found out that, you know, you had that military background.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh do you have any uh any any of your

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>your friends or your fellow soldiers female soldiers experienced something

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>like that. I don't know anyone exees me personally, but

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<v Speaker 1>I belonged to some women veteran programs where I know

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>it's there, but it does not get discussed openly. What

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:54.959
<v Speaker 1>trips me is like, if you can't be protected on

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<v Speaker 1>your base, your home, your home, think about it. This

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>is your base, this is ground this is ground zero

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>for protection. These the people that you're amongst your co

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 1>workers and all these people, these are the This is

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the US military, and they're supposed to be the first

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 1>line of defense for US as citizens. But to take

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>it further, you actually are employed directly by the military,

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>being the military from you employed to go out and

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>serve the country. And you're supposed to be going out

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.120
<v Speaker 1>here to get justice for other people and free other

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.439
<v Speaker 1>lands and all this stuff, But you can't get justice

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>for yourself right here. You know, how do you reconcile that?

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Like when you know knowing that you know, like I'm

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm serving I'm serving my country, but my country

0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>ain't necessarily serving me. It's to her for excuse me,

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:08.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a hurtful thought to know that. UM. I participate

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>with Dress for Success Houston. They also have a veterans portion,

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.679
<v Speaker 1>so tons of women every branch of the military that

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 1>you could think of, and sometimes and now more so

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>because of COVID, and we do a lot of things virtually,

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>so we don't get to do the relational building that

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>we were previously. But when you hear other women saying

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:37.919
<v Speaker 1>their PTSD, you know, or they're having some kind of

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>a psychotic or psychosis that they're having to deal with,

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and just like you say, it's not necessarily military related,

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>it's about something else that occurred while they were in

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the military. Yes, people on the base sometimes their personal relationships,

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>their spouses who may also be in the military, or

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 1>they're married to a military spouse, and the way they

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>have to handle the stress. I have no answers. I

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>have no answers. I don't know how to UM excuse it.

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>But it's just the idea that they experienced it. And

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>as you have said, the help, the help is there,

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>but some people are so afraid, just so afraid to

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>come up against powers that they feel are bigger than them. Yeah,

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that that was the case definitely with Vanessa gil Yam.

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:43.239
<v Speaker 1>You know she gil Ya and she uh told her

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>family that she had she was going through something. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy had sexually assaulted her and she was scared to debt.

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>And then it got out of something happened where dude

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>thought that he was going to be found out, so

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>he murdered and then like the cowardy he was, he

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>killed him. Two boys revoting podcast will be right back

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>after the point. M So you take your military uh background,

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and you kind of like, uh you you move on,

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you move forward, and you because you can't do the

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>military thing anymore, you get into education. What brought you

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>into education? Well, when I was given that offer, my

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>first thought, as I says, I don't know how to

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>do that? A little did I know? I knew a

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>lot more than I had actually given myself credit for.

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>So it was easier than your thought. Like actually teaching,

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'd had an instructor who was a history teacher.

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Prior to that. I had the medical background and the

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>biology because that was the career that I wanted. But

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>this one particular history teacher and I went back to

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>a c C. And she did something. It was like

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>sprinkling fairy dust on a person. And I loved the stories.

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I fell in love with the stories. I want to

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>do that. I want to tell stories. She made everything

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that you saw in a book come alive, where if

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you close your eyes you could see yourself there. And

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh my gosh, how did I do that?

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to do that. I really want to do that.

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>She was amazing. What's her name, would you believe? I

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>don't remember Diana. Diana was the first name, but the

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>last name I don't remember because it was quite some

0:31:55.840 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>time ago. But she was an awesome teacher, and I

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't like her. I didn't like her. I thought she

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>had something against me in the beginning, because every paper

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>its history class. You're gonna write. Every paper that I

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>turned in came back just blooded up. She just read

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>all over. And I thought, oh my gosh. I said, oh,

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>she hates me because I'm black. That was my first

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>thought because of it's like, surely i know I'm doing

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>everything right. And she said, oh, I'm gonna give this

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>paper back to you, fix it, turn it back in.

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>She gave her I said, well, I don't know what's

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>wrong with her. It was perfectly paper as far as

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I was concerned. I'm literate, I know how to write.

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what she's talking about. So I went

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and I changed some things around. Keep in mind I

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>had iff at first. I turned it back in and

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I got a d about, Oh what is wrong something

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>it's wrong with this woman? And she said, okay, I'm

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna give you one more chance. Take it, fix it,

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>turn it back in. She hates me. I know she

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.719
<v Speaker 1>hates me, because now there's nothing wrong with this paper.

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Did you try to get any help from anybody else?

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Did you act? I'll just look at it, look at it.

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't. I was the only person in my family

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:22.719
<v Speaker 1>who had graduated from high school, so I couldn't. And

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I went and did some more stuff, and I turned

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it back in again. But I'm thinking, I'm a genius

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>and I know these things. So I turned it in

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and she said, let me talk to you. Oh my god,

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>what does she want now? Is I can't get away

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 1>from her now? But she told good stories, and that's

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>what I liked. And she said, I see in you me,

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I see you making the same mistakes that I used

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>to make, and it wasn't until somebody stopped me that

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I was able to fix it. I'm stopping you now

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>because I want you to fix it, because you have

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>a great opportunity. But if you don't get this writing part,

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be all that you wanted to be.

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>At that point, my whole outlook about her changed tremendously, respectfully,

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>and I was so appreciated because no one had ever

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>said that they would just take the works. Oh yeah,

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 1>you did, you turned in here's a So of course

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought I knew what I was doing. I was

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>a really good student in high school. I could look

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>at something, learned, take the test, make a but I

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't know how to study. So when I first graduated

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:33.800
<v Speaker 1>from high school, I went to the University of Houston

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.319
<v Speaker 1>as a part of my testimony to my students and

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the parents that I had a full scholarship got in

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the University of Houston. Keeping mind, this girl had nobody

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>in her background. This she could ask about school. So

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.240
<v Speaker 1>here I am in a place that was far into

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 1>my family, and in my first year of college, I

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>ended up with a point seven five g P A. Yes,

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that is an F that is the grandfather of f's.

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 1>And it was so bad that University of Houston said,

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>do not enroll here anymore. Like ever, it's so bad.

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>And I thought, okay, so I went and got a

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>dead in gonna wear a job. The lady on the job,

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>wonderful older lady, Mr Do Lories, who said, baby, why

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>are you here? And I said, because I have a

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>car note and I need a job. She said, no,

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean that. I mean why are you here

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>in this place? Why are you doing this job? I

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 1>was filing papers. That was my job to file papers.

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>And um, I said, well, I got bills and I

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>failed in college. How do you make a point seven? Easy?

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Come to class, don't go a class on time, don't study.

0:35:55.960 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>And I parted like nobody's business. And I had a

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 1>good time because but I should have got an eight

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>for pardon when I said, sister, did that? I did that?

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>And I cannot lie. I have to own my truth,

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and that is my truth because that's what makes me

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>be who I am now. And then what campus was

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 1>this central campus? The third ward the day downtown? Oh well, yeah,

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>well I don't even know if they had downtown. Write

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>about them. But nevertheless, uh, they said, they put me out.

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 1>And that's how the circle. Literally it was like the

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>children in the desert wandering. That's how the circle started.

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.479
<v Speaker 1>You know, I do this, and so that's not working.

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Let me do that. Oh that's not working. That's how

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.720
<v Speaker 1>military peace came up. That's how all of these things

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>came up. Because I failed out of high school. I

0:36:54.320 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 1>graduated wonderful, but at that point eighteen, I lost my mind,

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what I was doing, didn't know how to

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>do it, and had nobody to ask, and didn't have

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 1>sense enough to know I needed to ask. So what

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>did that teacher say to you specifically that turned you around?

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>She saw me, and so when she said that, that

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 1>was all the motivation you need. You felt like she

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>cared about you. She cared right, absolutely. Okay, So, so

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean almost freshman high school and I go into

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>my homeroom teacher who happens to be my science teacher. Also,

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I go into a room, me and my buddy, and

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 1>we got on trench coach and gangstads and we walk

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>in singing, singing slave walking down the street watching ladies. Right,

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>We just jamming. So she just sat back and just

0:37:55.600 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>watching the class erupts going crazy. They're loving it, laughing Nick,

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 1>get it. We finished, she said, okay, you come sit

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>right here. So she made me sit up in the

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:09.800
<v Speaker 1>front since she made me sit sit in front of class.

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>And then um, she tells me to write the daily

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 1>objective on the board the next day. Now, up until

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>that point, I always thought that right in the daily

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>objective on the board. Objective on the board was for

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the smart kids. I never I never particularly considered myself

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>smart because I didn't make the grades. But when she

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>when she delegated authority to me, it gave me a

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:49.359
<v Speaker 1>sense of pride. And I'm writing the daily objective, I'm heah,

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, stipid chest out something right. And then next

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:56.320
<v Speaker 1>thing she does is she tells me to keep names

0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>when she leave her room, she tells me to keep

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the name. That's huge. Well, I didn't understand what she

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 1>was doing to me, but she really made me out

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>out of a rat. But I didn't have to rat

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>on nobody because she understood if I can get him

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:15.720
<v Speaker 1>under control, I can get my whole class room under control.

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>So every time she came back into the room, the

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>room was quieter than it was before she exited the room.

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:31.319
<v Speaker 1>And so again I did not figure out what she

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 1>was had done to me until a few years later.

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 1>But I made straight a's in her class when I started.

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 1>When I made an A in science, I thought I

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 1>could make an A in anything, because you know, blowing

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:50.680
<v Speaker 1>up you think you think of science is something difficult

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>to do because people tell you it's difficult, right, so

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you're think in your mind it's difficult. But she worked

0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>with me. She showed me, you know, the science, you know,

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 1>of of of studying and learning. And I aced her classroom.

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:12.360
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, well, I'm gonna try to with

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the other classes. So I ace math, I aced history, everything.

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I just as everything. So out of nowhere, I go

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>from you know, bees and seeds and d's two straight a's.

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:32.320
<v Speaker 1>And back then, they used to announce your name on

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 1>the on the intercom if you made the honor roll.

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 1>So when they announced my name, everybody started looking around it.

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what you do is threatened to teach you

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>what you beat up to teaching something and all that stuff,

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and and so I had to deal with that every

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>time after I would make the honor roll, you know,

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, after I would make the honor roll. I

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with that all the time. But I said,

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I just say, you know, you get the right teacher

0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>in your life. They could change life. And this is

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>why I respect teachers so much. I respect educators. You

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 1>get the right one and they can change your life.

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 1>If it was not for Mrs Oliver at Forest Brook

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>High School, I probably would be a different man. I

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>think she saved my life, you know, because I mean

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>she she sold it to me. She took the time.

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.359
<v Speaker 1>She could have easily said, get out of my room,

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, go to the principal's office like everybody else did.

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>But she understood. She's like, okay, we got us right here.

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 1>We got a class clown basically, uh yeah, class ground.

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know, hey, you know I can work with him.

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>You know he you know, I'm gonna work with this kid.

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>And it was because she took a chance on me.

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I took I take chances on people all the time

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 1>because I see I can see me in a lot

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>of these youngsters. And you know, I think all of us,

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>whether we want admit it or not, everybody likes to

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>be acknowledged. And you're going to either get some attention

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 1>to good way or the bad way, good or bad.

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:18.319
<v Speaker 1>People like to be acknowledged. People likes to be acknowledged.

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 1>So at that time I was doing getting it a

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>bad way by being a class clown. But she's taught

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 1>me how to get it a good way. And so

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>uh again, shots, ms, I gotta not. This ain't no

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>shot at right now. That's salute to Miss Oliver, Mrs Oliver, salute, salute, salute, shot,

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to the first one. My first grade teacher,

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Mrs Eppel Route Wilson Reynolds Elementary School. You know she

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>owed school ethel my first great teacher who I know

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>all day long, I was teacher's pet, and she would

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>take me home in the car. I wrote in the

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 1>teacher's car on the front seat. She would give me

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>books and tell me, now you take this book home

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>when you better learn how to read it. In kindergarten,

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know how to spell my name. And again

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I tell that because that's a part of my journey.

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.720
<v Speaker 1>She would always tell me you're gonna be my sister

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:31.959
<v Speaker 1>one day? Can I be her sister? She I don't

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 1>know how that's gonna happen. Till this day, I am

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 1>her sister. We're in the same sorority. She made sure

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get to look in any other direction. Was

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Zeta far Beta Sorority Incorporated? And I'm in Lamba Zeta chapter.

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I've been her sister since that little boy that you've

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 1>got to meet at the time, he was right about

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:05.879
<v Speaker 1>six months old. No regrets, Taylor. At some point in

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>your educational career, you became the dean of discipline at

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Milby High School. What exactly is a dean of discipline?

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:19.720
<v Speaker 1>What are your task? What are you task to do? Well,

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>as the title says discipline, I dealt with everything that

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>students did that were violations or infractions according to the

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<v Speaker 1>Student Code of Conduct, and more times than not, anything

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<v Speaker 1>that involves sending students to j j a P, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the Juvenile Justice Alternative Education program the county, sending

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<v Speaker 1>them to ABC East or West, which is for students

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<v Speaker 1>who commit violations but they also have some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a mental disorder that may cause them to do these

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote violent acts. It seemed like a bad guy

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<v Speaker 1>type job, like you know, like you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the guess the dr Doom, you know, like you come

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<v Speaker 1>and see me bad things happening. You know, you only

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<v Speaker 1>come to see me still hand out the punishment at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. Yeah, I had a student once who

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<v Speaker 1>had a traumatic brain brain injury. He had been hit

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<v Speaker 1>by a car. Young, Hispanic male, but because of the

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<v Speaker 1>brain injury, it caused him to have a very dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>side to him. That was a part of his effect.

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<v Speaker 1>He literally took a baseball bat and beat his grandfather.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't kill him, but he beat his grandfather. And

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<v Speaker 1>he would come to school and he was very intimidating,

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<v Speaker 1>very frightening. And students like that. You can't just send

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<v Speaker 1>them away or send them to an alternative setting. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to go through a process which is with special

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<v Speaker 1>education and make sure that you're not violating their rights.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's called an m DR Manifestation determination review, which

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<v Speaker 1>shows that what the student did is or is not

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<v Speaker 1>related to their illness for their disorder. I was so

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<v Speaker 1>engaged into that that I just recently got another credential

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<v Speaker 1>or certification as an educational diagnostician because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to ensure that students who were having mental

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<v Speaker 1>or psychological disorders were being diagnosed properly. But how do

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<v Speaker 1>you not violate their rights and keep the greater student

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<v Speaker 1>body safe. Sometimes the students have to be in a

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<v Speaker 1>contained area where they're not mixing with the general population.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there are other times that is a part

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<v Speaker 1>of their UM i e P. Their educational plan, their

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:58.399
<v Speaker 1>individual educational plan that they do mix, but they may

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<v Speaker 1>have to have a co teacher with them. Um they

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<v Speaker 1>may only have two or three courses out in the

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<v Speaker 1>general population, and then others they have to be in

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<v Speaker 1>a more contained area. It just depends on the situation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>can you share that story that you were telling me

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<v Speaker 1>about where the kid came up to you one day,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was after school or something that he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted you to leave the school stop staying so late,

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<v Speaker 1>and share that story. UM. I was at an alternative

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<v Speaker 1>school on the West Side and I was the principle

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<v Speaker 1>over this particular section. We had elementary, middle, and high

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<v Speaker 1>school all under the same roof. And this particular student

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<v Speaker 1>he was tatted up, he had his gang signs on him,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a little tear drop by his eye and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And one day he came to he say, miss uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to stop staying late. I said, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about? He said, I know you're here. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you he at the school. It gets late. Stop

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<v Speaker 1>staying here. I need you to go home. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you know that I'm here? He said, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I got people watching. But I told him she's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>don't bother her. Let's stop staying because one time I

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<v Speaker 1>might not be able to stop somebody. M hmm. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That let me know that he liked me because he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to warn me and I stopped staying. How

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<v Speaker 1>come YEA, I don't have security after iurs when teachers

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<v Speaker 1>are standing putting in over time. Well, UM, as far

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<v Speaker 1>as H I. S D Is concerned, we do have

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<v Speaker 1>security now. Even our security guards. They generally clock out

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<v Speaker 1>at five o'clock. So if you're staying after that, then

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<v Speaker 1>more times than not, that's your choice. Is not something

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to do. And if it's not an event,

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<v Speaker 1>then you may not have security there for that event,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I I do not um advice for myself

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<v Speaker 1>or even the individuals who work under me, that they

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:10.319
<v Speaker 1>stay late, especially when it starts getting dark, leave at

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<v Speaker 1>a decent amount of time and don't stay by yourself

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<v Speaker 1>or don't walk out alone in regards to respect. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I cover a lot of stories where kids challenge teachers. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>they will swing on teachers, call them all kinds of names,

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<v Speaker 1>everything but a child of God. Sir, what are some

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<v Speaker 1>particular challenges that you have faced when trying to rank

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<v Speaker 1>order and in the schools that you have worked there? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my first school, and I'll never forget, I was a

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<v Speaker 1>green teacher like the curtains on the wall, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had a student who was kind of acting up. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>two unusual. Generally my classes were pretty decent, but this

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<v Speaker 1>one particular day, a young man was very agitated and

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<v Speaker 1>he said he was leaving. And I'm four ft ten

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<v Speaker 1>and I stood in front of the door like wonder woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you are not boy, said that you're not leaving.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna stay. And he said, Miss, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>move and I said, no, I need you to sit down.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're not leaving today. I need you here in

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<v Speaker 1>this room with me. I need you to stay. And

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<v Speaker 1>he said, Miss, I'm telling you I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt you. And that was the first time I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>had a student to say something like that to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought, Okay, this is not a drill, this

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<v Speaker 1>is real. And I refused to move. I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be stoic and stand there, and I say, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to stay in the room. He politely

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<v Speaker 1>came up. He grabbed me by my elbows and moved

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<v Speaker 1>me over to the side and said, I told you

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hurt you. And he walked out

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<v Speaker 1>the room. Needles to say, I was traumatized, and the

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 1>kids in the room they were like, miss are you okay?

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:07.400
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, okay, I gotta hold it together

0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 1>because they're watching me. And I said, uh, somebody pushed

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<v Speaker 1>the button. Just somebody just pushed the button, the emergency button,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody came. And I said, okay, y'all sit down.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you move. I cannot protect you if you leave

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<v Speaker 1>the room. You stay in the room. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>get help. So I went to get my own help.

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<v Speaker 1>And at that time, when I share what had happened,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, well, that's the straw. I said, what do

0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:41.799
<v Speaker 1>you mean that's the straw? We needed one more thing

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<v Speaker 1>for that student to move him out of the school.

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<v Speaker 1>He touched you. I was like, wow. I felt sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for him, but I was so scared. I was more

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<v Speaker 1>afraid than I was sorry for him at that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's when they told me that he had

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<v Speaker 1>a psychological imbalance and he has seen his mother's boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>blow her brains out and it affected him and there

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<v Speaker 1>were psychotic disorders in his family. Steve tuned for part

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