Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Made it to a Thursday. It's our one,
Speaker 1: Dan and the Dana's Dan Patrick Show. Just talking to
Speaker 1: Paulli since I have nobody else to talk to here
Speaker 1: in the Banqueve, but I was talking to Paully, and
Speaker 1: Paully goes, Just imagine if the Green Bay Packers a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago traded with the Houston Texans and
Speaker 1: they gave a second round draft pick to the Texans
Speaker 1: for DeAndre Hopkins, and let's say the Packers decided to
Speaker 1: move up in the draft and take a defensive lineman
Speaker 1: or maybe Cede Lamb. What would we be saying about
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers and Aaron Rodgers today. We wouldn't
Speaker 1: be saying anything other than, man, are they loaded and
Speaker 1: they are ready to go. Everybody wants to follow Kansas
Speaker 1: City's blueprint. Well you start with the quarterback, and how
Speaker 1: many teams have a Patrick Mahomes. The Packers have an
Speaker 1: older Patrick Mahomes and now they gave him track store
Speaker 1: on his team. They did supplement that defense made it
Speaker 1: better Chris Jones and was a godsend in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But if Green Bay had DeAndre Hopkins and they drafted
Speaker 1: CD Lamb. Let's say we would look at the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers completely different than we are today. We're looking
Speaker 1: at this team as if thirteen and three was a mirage.
Speaker 1: They were lucky to do that. They're really a ten
Speaker 1: win team, maybe a nine win team. I think Vegas
Speaker 1: has the over under at nine or nine and a half. Hey,
Speaker 1: we got to start looking at the future. Hey, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is on the decline. If they went out and
Speaker 1: got DeAndre Hopkins and Cede Lamb, I'd love to know
Speaker 1: what Vegas would list them as Super Bowl contenders, because
Speaker 1: they would probably be right there with San Francisco as
Speaker 1: the team to beat in the NFC. As a result,
Speaker 1: we're talking about Aaron Rodgers, the lack of a relationship.
Speaker 1: They want to send a message. They're tired of his passive,
Speaker 1: aggressive mood. And here is Brett Farve yesterday on The
Speaker 1: Rich Eisen Show talking about the bridge burned in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Green Bay's not going anywhere without Aaron Rodgers in the
Speaker 1: next few years. If he plays like we expected to play,
Speaker 1: they got a shot with or without a first round receiver.
Speaker 1: He's that good. So I would do all I could
Speaker 1: to not burn that bridge, and I don't think that
Speaker 1: they did that. I think that they burned a bridge
Speaker 1: that it's going to be hard to overcome. At some point.
Speaker 1: I think it will rear its ugly. Here that's Brett
Speaker 1: Farve on the Rich Eisen Show. Here's a couple of
Speaker 1: things that I took away from that. Now. I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised anything that Brett said. Brett said that he didn't
Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers ends his career in a Green Bay uniform,
Speaker 1: and I agree, I don't think he doesn't. I don't
Speaker 1: think that that's going to be possible. And Brett certainly
Speaker 1: understands this. Brett has been in touch with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: If I would have told you five years ago that
Speaker 1: Brett Farve would be an advisor to Aaron Rodgers, that
Speaker 1: Rodgers would be confided fighting and Brett Farve, you would
Speaker 1: have said, no, that's not going to happen. But that
Speaker 1: is what is happening. I also wondered, is Brett Farve
Speaker 1: sort of the mouthpiece for Aaron Rodgers right now with
Speaker 1: what Aaron feels and if he unloaded on Farv to say, hey,
Speaker 1: I get it, man, I get where you were, I
Speaker 1: get it, and you might be telling him something. So
Speaker 1: when Brett Farve goes on the rich eyes and Show,
Speaker 1: he might be saying, hey, this is just my opinion,
Speaker 1: but it might be my opinion with maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit of Aaron Rodgers in there. But yeah, just some
Speaker 1: things that I took away yesterday. Dan Orlovski of ESPN,
Speaker 1: the former NFL quarterback on Twitter yesterday, says, you tell me,
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers got Michael Pittman, Ben Roethlisberger got to Ebron
Speaker 1: and Claypool, Breeze got Sanders and Ruiz Ruiz the center
Speaker 1: out of Michigan. Brady got Gronk and Worf's, Rogers got
Speaker 1: Jordan Love and a pound the rock running back AJ Dillon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Orlovski ends his tweet by saying, one of
Speaker 1: these doesn't belong with the other, and we know which
Speaker 1: one that is. Look, if they want to send a
Speaker 1: message you don't like Aaron Rodgers' attitude, We're going to
Speaker 1: see if we can. He's thirty six. Are you changing
Speaker 1: his attitude? Now? Aaron should have known if you're going
Speaker 1: to bring in Matt Lafleur, you know what his coaching
Speaker 1: style is. As a offensive coordinator in previous stops, and
Speaker 1: you can't be surprised at that. If you're going to
Speaker 1: bring in somebody who wants to run, who likes what
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan does in San Francisco, who likes what Sean
Speaker 1: McVay did with the Rams, then you can't be surprised
Speaker 1: when he comes in and says, I want to run
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit more here. We want to
Speaker 1: be more like San Francisco. Aaron didn't get along with
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. That's set up the scenario for the Packers
Speaker 1: to go what kind of team do we want to be?
Speaker 1: Even though you have invested one hundred million dollars in
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Here was the other thing that came to
Speaker 1: mind when I was thinking about this. It's different with
Speaker 1: the Packers because they don't have an owner. Imagine if
Speaker 1: Tom Brady goes to if he went to Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: or he went to Robert Kraft. Like going to Robert Kraft,
Speaker 1: he can go to him and say, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't like what Bill's doing or how he treats me,
Speaker 1: or I want to have fun or I want to leave.
Speaker 1: You go to one person, Aaron Rodgers can't go to
Speaker 1: an owner in Green Bay, it's a board of directors stockholders.
Speaker 1: If you had an owner, would Aaron Rodgers then be
Speaker 1: able to take a little bit of the air out
Speaker 1: of this the tension that is there because Brady was
Speaker 1: able to do that. Brady went to the owner to say,
Speaker 1: I want Garoppolo traded, and they traded Garoppolo. They traded
Speaker 1: their future. Aaron Rodgers would go to ownership to say,
Speaker 1: give me a chance here, we're close, help me get
Speaker 1: me some weapons, Let's see what we can do. Why
Speaker 1: don't we have a Kansas City style offense in Green Bay?
Speaker 1: Give me a chance here. It's one person, his opinion,
Speaker 1: and that owner would have been there through the five
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers era, so he would know, Hey, let's
Speaker 1: don't do what we did to five and do that
Speaker 1: to Aaron. Let's make sure that we give them one
Speaker 1: more chance here. And I'm not comparing Rodgers in farv
Speaker 1: because it's a little it's apples and oranges there. It's
Speaker 1: a little trickier because people are saying, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: did you have any problem with the packers drafting Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers when they had five? I did, yes, I did.
Speaker 1: I said, you got five at the end of his career,
Speaker 1: but still able to play a pretty high level. And
Speaker 1: I know what happens here. You go, hey, well it
Speaker 1: worked out, so therefore you know, if you're gonna look
Speaker 1: at the result of the strategy there, that's different. Here
Speaker 1: the strategy I didn't like. The result I loved, but
Speaker 1: that's the situation here. I don't. I'm on record saying
Speaker 1: I don't like trading up for a quarterback. If I'm
Speaker 1: paying my quarterback and he's still one of the top
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks in the league, we have a chance here.
Speaker 1: You're not as good as you think you are. You're
Speaker 1: not thirteen and three. You're a ten win team at best.
Speaker 1: In my opinion. Last year they were very fortunate, got
Speaker 1: in with a dominating team offensively and defensively, great offense,
Speaker 1: defensive line, and they got roughed up. But this year,
Speaker 1: I don't expect much out of the Packers. Oh, Aaron's upset.
Speaker 1: What's he gonna do? Is he gonna is he gonna
Speaker 1: throw to who? Exactly? Man, I'm really mad. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be great this year. I think Aaron Rodgers says that
Speaker 1: every year. Yeah, point going back to what you said
Speaker 1: right at the bat about like if they would trade
Speaker 1: it for Hopkins, that would have been the kind of
Speaker 1: weapons Aaron Rodgers needs. He doesn't need a Yeah, see,
Speaker 1: Lamb will be great probably, and all these other guys
Speaker 1: would be great, And it would be symbolic to draft
Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the first round. But you can
Speaker 1: get Emmanuel Sanders who's thirty years old, or new Hopkins
Speaker 1: who's twenty eight, and they're ready to play another They're expensive,
Speaker 1: but that's what you do when you're thirteen and three.
Speaker 1: You have a great quarterback if you believe your team
Speaker 1: is thirteen and three. I think the Packers and look,
Speaker 1: I'll give the management credit if they look at this
Speaker 1: team and say, you know what, we're not a thirteen
Speaker 1: and three team. And you know what, Aaron has not
Speaker 1: had great years. You're comparing Aaron Rodgers to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: That's not a fair comparison. Aaron Rodgers was spectacular. What
Speaker 1: he did with interception to touchdown ratio, it's not even
Speaker 1: close how great he's been with that. And when you go,
Speaker 1: you know, he through twenty six touchdowns four interceptions. How
Speaker 1: many teams would take twenty six to four interceptions. I
Speaker 1: know the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, would Chicago Bears, would San
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers? Would You can go down the
Speaker 1: list of teams that would say, wait, my quarterback's gonna
Speaker 1: throw only twenty six touchdowns but only four interceptions. I'll
Speaker 1: sign up for them. But they want to be a
Speaker 1: ball control offense. They bring in a running back, another
Speaker 1: running back to go along with Aaron Jones who had
Speaker 1: a wonderful year. You get an h back. Okay. I
Speaker 1: just wondered if if some if they had traded for
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and traded up in the draft for a weapon,
Speaker 1: how we would be viewing the Packers completely different? Guess boone?
Speaker 1: Whoa quarterback? News? Dan? Okay, give me a hint. A
Speaker 1: team is releasing a veteran quarterback. A team is releasing
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback. Okay, you want a piece of this, Andrew,
Speaker 1: you want a piece of this. That's my hands, mclovin.
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton has been released. Andy Dalton has been released.
Speaker 1: Bengals are releasing quarterback Andy Dalton. Purse source. According to
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter, whew, how long before Andy Dalton is picked up?
Speaker 1: And where mclovin. Andy Dalton's your boyfriend problem. The Patriots
Speaker 1: have no cap room. I don't know how they get
Speaker 1: over that. Well, they brought in Jameis Winston for nothing
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. That's a good point. And you're right,
Speaker 1: and he's made a lot of money. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: great point. So one million dollar deal New England, I'd
Speaker 1: say the best. I bet that's a Vega's favorite. What
Speaker 1: do you think, Well, I don't. Somebody's Jacksonville is gonna
Speaker 1: bring in somebody. Do you bring in Andy Dalton to
Speaker 1: help Gardner? Minshew? Do you bring in Cam Newton to
Speaker 1: maybe challenge Gardner? Minshew? I don't. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm not quite sure where somebody lands. Here is
Speaker 1: one a starter and one of Jamis realizes you will
Speaker 1: be a starter if you're smart as a backup quarterback
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Cam at his stage in his career,
Speaker 1: I don't you may have to go in as a backup.
Speaker 1: I mean truly go in as a backup and then
Speaker 1: wait for your chance. And maybe you have Ryan Tannehill situation. Yeah, mcclub.
Speaker 1: What about a team like that's a contender that wants
Speaker 1: to high end backup, he's our quarterback, gets hurt a lot,
Speaker 1: or like I don't even even in Kansas City. Somebody
Speaker 1: who wants insurance that, you know, four games out and
Speaker 1: we're gonna win a Super Bowl? Who did Kansas City
Speaker 1: have they have? Like Matt Mato, Yeah, Matt Moore, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it takes a lot of contact. If I'm Andy Dalton,
Speaker 1: I look to grab a ring. He's got a lot
Speaker 1: of money. He goes to a situation, go to the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, and I know they've got a very great
Speaker 1: young quarterback that runs a lot and gets hit a lot.
Speaker 1: You may get in there and you have a great
Speaker 1: team around you. Pick up a ring. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he's got to go into a system that will fit him. Though.
Speaker 1: It's one thing you know with Carson Wentz you had
Speaker 1: Nick Foles who came in, and Nick Foles, they didn't
Speaker 1: have to really alter the system. If Andy Dalton would
Speaker 1: go in, Lamar Jackson got hurt, Now you got to
Speaker 1: change your system a little bit. There. This program brought
Speaker 1: to you by Legal Zoom. No matter what happens, you
Speaker 1: want to take care of your loved ones. And that's
Speaker 1: why Legal Zoom has made it easy to set up
Speaker 1: the right estate plan without leaving your home. Take care
Speaker 1: of your family today with the right estate plan at
Speaker 1: legal zoom dot com. All right, I got way ahead
Speaker 1: of myself because Paulie and I got into this conversation
Speaker 1: about the Packers and what if they had traded for
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Let me tell you the guest list here,
Speaker 1: Roy Williams, North Carolina head coach, get his thoughts on
Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan documentary because Roy is the one who
Speaker 1: recruited Mike to North Carolina. Michael Wilbon, he'll join us
Speaker 1: to talk about the back and forth between the Pistons
Speaker 1: and the Bulls. Doug Gottlieb on the new G League
Speaker 1: as some of these high school players deciding that they're
Speaker 1: just going to go to the G League. John Calipari
Speaker 1: came out and said, you know, these kids, thousands are
Speaker 1: going to be disillusioned here. And I don't agree with
Speaker 1: that because there's only a few that are going to
Speaker 1: get paid two hundred and fifty three four hundred thousand dollars. Therefore,
Speaker 1: it's supply and demand. How many are coming in. Not
Speaker 1: everybody gets to go in. You might want to go
Speaker 1: in It's just like the NBA draft when they were
Speaker 1: letting high school players, you know, declare for the draft.
Speaker 1: There's only so many teams and only so many roster spots. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going to declare for the draft. And then you
Speaker 1: realized nobody's going to draft you. If you want to,
Speaker 1: declare to go to the G League instead of going
Speaker 1: to UCLA or Auburn or wherever. Some of these top players,
Speaker 1: these are really elite players. The number one player in
Speaker 1: high school basketball is not going to college. He's going
Speaker 1: to go to the G League and he's going to
Speaker 1: make money. He's going to get a shoe. These are
Speaker 1: all the things that I thought would be smart for
Speaker 1: the G League if you could do it. As long
Speaker 1: as the NBA was okay with this, I don't worry
Speaker 1: about the NCAA, worry about the NBA if you go there,
Speaker 1: and I actually, hell, it's like a gap year. They're
Speaker 1: kids in high school who have a gap year to
Speaker 1: get ready for college. That's all this is. Now. I'm
Speaker 1: going to pay you to come in and understand what
Speaker 1: life is like when you go to the NBA, because
Speaker 1: those players are going to get drafted. They don't get
Speaker 1: the platform the stage like Zion Williamson say goodbye to
Speaker 1: Zion Williamson. I mean that that's not happening anymore. I
Speaker 1: think it'll be rare if a kid comes out and
Speaker 1: you know, unless you know, we have the high schoolers
Speaker 1: can go right to the NBA. If I'm in their
Speaker 1: position and I can make three hundred thousand, four hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, you can do this. Go in, I get
Speaker 1: a shoe deal. Adidas is going to come in and say,
Speaker 1: I got your shoe deal. When you go to the pros,
Speaker 1: you get locked in early. Hey, by the way, we're
Speaker 1: going to help you with things like investments, stocks, real estate,
Speaker 1: simple simple things that you might not be ready to do.
Speaker 1: You're not getting that in college. And I've said before,
Speaker 1: if I go to college and I'm only going to
Speaker 1: play basketball for six months, the university should just say,
Speaker 1: how about I make you a better person. We're gonna
Speaker 1: use you, you use us. You know, let's pull back
Speaker 1: the curtain here. We're gonna talk to Greg Sanky, the
Speaker 1: SEC commissioner, because now these players can they can capitalize
Speaker 1: on their likeness. Man, it's a gray area here because
Speaker 1: I don't know what the rules are I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Like let's say if a booster says, I got a
Speaker 1: card dealership, I'm gonna pay you a hundred grand to
Speaker 1: come down and spend Saturday's autographing in the off season.
Speaker 1: You could say that to a recruit, Hey, you want
Speaker 1: to go there because you know what that booster you
Speaker 1: get this, Like, I don't know what you're allowed to get,
Speaker 1: what is permissible? And do you know that Jim Trussell
Speaker 1: under these rules would not have been fired at Ohio
Speaker 1: State because you can't capitalize on your stardom, your likeness.
Speaker 1: You know, those kids traded in their stardom at Ohio
Speaker 1: State to get tattoos. Jim Tressell lost his job because
Speaker 1: of that or partially because of that. But I don't
Speaker 1: know what you can actually do now. The NCAA would
Speaker 1: love this to happen, so then they don't have to
Speaker 1: be under that microscope that says are you going to
Speaker 1: pay your players? Why aren't you paying your players? Now
Speaker 1: they can say, hey, you can capitalize in your likeness.
Speaker 1: Like Johnny Manzel would have been able to sign those
Speaker 1: autographs and he would have gotten paid and nobody would
Speaker 1: have had a problem with it. It's the things. How
Speaker 1: do you It's like you have to tell the irs
Speaker 1: everything you're doing, because if they find out that you
Speaker 1: didn't tell them, then you got trouble. It's like with
Speaker 1: the NCAA, we want to know what you're doing it's
Speaker 1: above board. Because we find out that you're not above board,
Speaker 1: then we're going to have a problem with this. And
Speaker 1: I also want to ask Greg Sanky, does college football
Speaker 1: need a commissioner, not a president like Mark Emritt, somebody
Speaker 1: who is a commissioner. And maybe Greg Sankey is the
Speaker 1: de facto commissioner because he runs the SEC, so we'll
Speaker 1: talk to him. Doug Gottlie will join us later, Michael
Speaker 1: Wilbon and the North Carolina head coach Roy Williams. We'll
Speaker 1: have a pole question, stat of the day, play of
Speaker 1: the day, all of those things coming up. Now. I'm
Speaker 1: fired up, all right. Fritzie's here, mclovin's here, Seaton's here,
Speaker 1: and we'll have all of those things. You can watch
Speaker 1: on YouTube dot com slanks to the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1: You can dialle us up page seven seven three DP
Speaker 1: show anything else that I missed here. We started out
Speaker 1: right out of the gates here because We just picked
Speaker 1: up the conversation that Paul and I were having an
Speaker 1: ugly day outside dan ugly, it's pouring, doesn't matter. There's
Speaker 1: sunshine in here. You sunshine in here, baby. Every day
Speaker 1: It's the super Bowl eighteen. After the hour, back after
Speaker 1: this and The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to
Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us
Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six
Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local
Speaker 1: station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio
Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching f s R. Once again, the
Speaker 1: Bengals have released Andy Dalton. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a shock but a little bit of a surprise. I
Speaker 1: didn't know if they would keep him there as a
Speaker 1: cushion for Joe Burrow for one year. We'll keep an
Speaker 1: eye on where Andy Dalton. Mayland will come up with
Speaker 1: a pole question, mclovin, do you have one before we
Speaker 1: get to the Commissioner of the sec. Well, maybe we
Speaker 1: want to wait till after the commissioner to ask my NCA. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's bring in Greg Sankey. He's the Commissioner of the SEC.
Speaker 1: He took over that title in twenty fifteen. Fritzie, how
Speaker 1: do you have an Ohio state jersey on with the commissioner,
Speaker 1: the SEC and all? Honestly, I just grabbed a jersey
Speaker 1: that I'd be comfortable in sitting here in the house.
Speaker 1: They should have realized that that was a poor decision
Speaker 1: on my point, but it was not something that was
Speaker 1: not taking a shot of course, the bow with the commissioner.
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, commissioner, Sorry about that. When are the
Speaker 1: performance evaluations I'd like to have? I'd like to have
Speaker 1: some input. What sports are you watching now? None? How's
Speaker 1: that I'm watching replays of games I attended. I actually
Speaker 1: watched the CFP National Championship game a couple of nights ago.
Speaker 1: I've been there, and you know, you've been to enough events.
Speaker 1: When you're at the event, you don't watch the event.
Speaker 1: You're in the same way. So it was fun to
Speaker 1: actually go see what I thought happened compared to what
Speaker 1: actually did happen. We won. What kind of told did
Speaker 1: March Madness not being played have on the SEC? Well,
Speaker 1: you know there's a financial impact to put that aside.
Speaker 1: The most emotional moment for me was having to make
Speaker 1: a recommendation to our presidents and our chancellors that we
Speaker 1: cancel our men's basketball tournament. If you'll recall back in
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, we had a basketball tournament interrupted
Speaker 1: by a tornado and we set up all night. We
Speaker 1: made it through. Georgia ends up winning and they had
Speaker 1: finished in the bottom half of our standings. And one
Speaker 1: of those moments for me, and nobody knew who I
Speaker 1: was back then, I was an associate commissioner. I'm walking
Speaker 1: down a hallway and there's a Georgia player holding the
Speaker 1: trophy walking towards me, saying over and over, this is
Speaker 1: the best day of my life. And that's one of
Speaker 1: those moments where the tickets, the TV, the attendance kind
Speaker 1: of goes by the wayside and you realize the importance
Speaker 1: of competition. So not being able to play hurt in
Speaker 1: a very different way. And then the rest of the
Speaker 1: month I would call a celebration. That's the enjoyable part
Speaker 1: of the job to see teams compete. You know, last
Speaker 1: year Auburns run to the final four was really enjoyable,
Speaker 1: and you hope for a national championship South Carolina I
Speaker 1: think would have been the number one ranked Grimmin's team,
Speaker 1: so we had an opportunity to win, which is always
Speaker 1: part of that fun. We'll get to the NCAA in
Speaker 1: a moment. But what kind of plan. It feels like
Speaker 1: every league, every commissioner, there's alternative plans here. There are
Speaker 1: alternative of plans for college football in the fall. M
Speaker 1: that's the conversation. You know, are you there? Sure is
Speaker 1: that the focus, No, the focus is on preparing to
Speaker 1: play as scheduled Labor Day weekend. I think that's an
Speaker 1: important message publicly. I think it's important for our student
Speaker 1: athletes to hear from me that we're focused on that preparation. Now.
Speaker 1: Whether or not we can make that happen, that's going
Speaker 1: to be up to the circumstances around the virus. But
Speaker 1: no football, you know, football with no fans not something
Speaker 1: I have to decide right now and not high on
Speaker 1: my priority list for thinking about now. Whether whether the
Speaker 1: fan patterns look different, that's that's another question that again,
Speaker 1: we've learned a lot in the last thirty to forty
Speaker 1: five days. We're going to learn a lot more in
Speaker 1: the next forty five days. And we've got you know,
Speaker 1: a little over one hundred days to the start of
Speaker 1: what would be football season as scheduled, and that old
Speaker 1: guide how we make those decisions. But I wonder if
Speaker 1: you have students on campus, then do we have Is
Speaker 1: there a correlation between that students on campus fans in
Speaker 1: the stands or is that a big leap there? I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a big leap, Dan. I think the
Speaker 1: first threshold is our campuses moving back towards operation. And
Speaker 1: you see really on a daily basis, universities across the
Speaker 1: country talking about moving forward with their fall plan. So
Speaker 1: that's the first step. The patterns and how people enter
Speaker 1: and leave and where they sit or all those other
Speaker 1: types of conversations that, yeah, is it linked to students
Speaker 1: being on campus? Shore is it directly linked? I don't
Speaker 1: think you can make the statement that it's all one
Speaker 1: seamless process. Explain to me, if you can, and layman's terms,
Speaker 1: about what you think these athletes are going to be
Speaker 1: able to capitalize on with their likeness and how do
Speaker 1: we keep it above board. That's a heck of a question.
Speaker 1: You just boiled it right down to its essence. But
Speaker 1: let's just take a step back for a second. Remember
Speaker 1: a year ago, California is in this debate about its
Speaker 1: state legislation. The NCAA sends the letters, says they better
Speaker 1: be careful about championships participation, and a year later we're
Speaker 1: talking about operationalizing student athlete name, image and likeness. So
Speaker 1: there are some easy elements, you know, if you read
Speaker 1: what is a thirty one page report, which I haven't
Speaker 1: had the time to read yet because I first saw
Speaker 1: it yesterday. One element is businesses like student athletes operating
Speaker 1: businesses with and we've had people do that do it
Speaker 1: really well. We had a football player one of our
Speaker 1: universities around a landscaping business as whole college career, believe
Speaker 1: it or not, and did quite well, you never knew it.
Speaker 1: We had another student athlete who played in the NFL,
Speaker 1: wrote a book, worked with the compliance office, did it
Speaker 1: in a great way. Now, can you just say we're
Speaker 1: gonna run business is and all of a sudden the
Speaker 1: boosters don't take over and make it a recruiting issue.
Speaker 1: That's the above board piece, and that's where there are
Speaker 1: a lot of questions still to be answered, in my view.
Speaker 1: But okay, can let's say I own a car dealership
Speaker 1: and I'm in Athens, Georgia, and I want to say
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, come on over Saturday's non football season
Speaker 1: and you can sign autographs once a week and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pay you one hundred thousand dollars. Is that legal? Well,
Speaker 1: that remains to be seen. I'll back you up and
Speaker 1: say we have a football leadership council where I have
Speaker 1: taken them through that exercise. I didn't put the one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars on it because I'm not sure that's
Speaker 1: necessarily real world right now? Could that happen? So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put that hypothetical aside. But I just talk through
Speaker 1: a room of starters from each of our fourteen teams.
Speaker 1: The process of people reaching out asking about appearances, asking
Speaker 1: about showing up at a car dealership, at a restaurant,
Speaker 1: you know, high value time would be football season. And
Speaker 1: our student athletes have said to us for years, I
Speaker 1: don't have enough time in my life right now. They
Speaker 1: are very good about identifying where they should have this space.
Speaker 1: But when you actually walk through the exercise of scheduling appearances,
Speaker 1: having contracts, what's the rate going to be where I'm
Speaker 1: going to find the time? We literally ended with a
Speaker 1: question to me, of one, how can my university help
Speaker 1: me in this process? And that hasn't been answered for
Speaker 1: us yet. And then the next observation was, I don't
Speaker 1: know that I want this. And we're talking about high
Speaker 1: level competitors saying, you know what I'm preparing for football?
Speaker 1: Would we have sixty three guys drafted last week? And
Speaker 1: I think you've got this tension between the focused competitor
Speaker 1: and the distractions and we're going to have to find
Speaker 1: that balance. Quite frankly, he's the commissioner of the SEC,
Speaker 1: Greg Sanky joining us Stan Patrick show. Johnny Manzel under
Speaker 1: the new guidelines would have been allowed to do what
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel was doing at Texas A and M right
Speaker 1: signing autographs. Well, that's been identified as one of those activities. Yeah,
Speaker 1: We've had a few of those eruptions over time, but
Speaker 1: we'll go with that one. Yeah, That's what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to understand here, because I don't know does this How
Speaker 1: does this benefit college football? If you're going to allow
Speaker 1: these student athletes to capitalize on their likeness, are we
Speaker 1: are we getting away from Hey, you got to pay them?
Speaker 1: You know that. Maybe that question doesn't get asked anymore
Speaker 1: of Mark Emerton and the NCAA. So I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out what's the benefit for college football. Well, I
Speaker 1: think the question is asked. It's asked of Mark, it's
Speaker 1: asked of the NCAA globally, it's it's asked of me
Speaker 1: and or not in a pay for play mode. And
Speaker 1: we've said that as a principle. So this isn't an idea.
Speaker 1: And let's go back to the California law. The California
Speaker 1: State law very clearly said here's the circumstances around this name, image,
Speaker 1: and likeness, activity, those concepts. By the way, I've been
Speaker 1: out there in different areas, whether it's a media conversation
Speaker 1: and discussions in lawsuits. So now what does it mean.
Speaker 1: It means that an individual gets to go act in
Speaker 1: their own interest and decide do I or do I
Speaker 1: not want to be involved in economic activity. The responsibility
Speaker 1: university has to provide the support basis, be it the
Speaker 1: scholarship at academic support, mental health, but the individual student
Speaker 1: athlete gets to go function somewhat like a student who
Speaker 1: wanted to go sell autographs. By the way, I don't
Speaker 1: see a lot of students out there successfully selling their
Speaker 1: autographs from our university campuses. So some of these comparatives
Speaker 1: I think, get a little bit twisted, if you will.
Speaker 1: Fritzie just changed his jersey from Ohio State to LSU. Fritzie,
Speaker 1: come on a little peace offering. I don't want to
Speaker 1: upset his commissioner. I didn't. Joe Burrow moved right there, right,
Speaker 1: that's exact. Start with Andy Dalton and Cincinnati and we
Speaker 1: see the impacts playing out on the show. I want
Speaker 1: to upset the commissioner. Oh yeah, I'm sure you have
Speaker 1: to be really up at your master's degree to that.
Speaker 1: Let's be clear about that. All right, here's the tough question.
Speaker 1: If I could only go to one tailgate in the SEC, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's like dangerous for me because I have fourteen favorite
Speaker 1: universe just one, Like, I mean, all that is is
Speaker 1: trouble for I know that. I know that. That's why
Speaker 1: I said that's the tough question. Like, have you ever
Speaker 1: been to a football game at the University of Montana
Speaker 1: and like minus ten degrees that's a memorable tail I
Speaker 1: would love I would love to do that. I grew
Speaker 1: up in Ohio. I'm not afraid of the Cole oh
Speaker 1: Miss very clearly UM has distinguished themselves. If it's caloric intake,
Speaker 1: you're going to be in bat bruised for creative, creative
Speaker 1: food choices. UM. When you're me, you usually don't walk
Speaker 1: through a lot of tailgates because there are opinions expressed
Speaker 1: and in their own creative ways. But do you get
Speaker 1: booed like the the NFL commission, Like, how do fans
Speaker 1: treat you because you're you're thee Yeah? Pretty well, you
Speaker 1: know there were when LSU had its celebration. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're in a figure an authority position, you're going
Speaker 1: to get a few few booze. So I started out
Speaker 1: with my remarks there are just a few people in
Speaker 1: the arena, and I observed that I asked the question,
Speaker 1: what do you think of the first year of beer
Speaker 1: sales and Tiger Stadium? It was like, hooray, So there's
Speaker 1: a commissioner. You got to have those moments when you
Speaker 1: can turn the turn the criticism into something more positive.
Speaker 1: You should also since you're joining us from I don't
Speaker 1: know if that you're den but you're at home, I
Speaker 1: think the home office. Yeah, the angle that you have
Speaker 1: with your zoom camera, you need to do sort of
Speaker 1: like the Batman logo that they would always do when
Speaker 1: they would like you, you should put an SEC logo
Speaker 1: above you, like a spotlight that has SEC right above
Speaker 1: your head there on the seal. Well, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what I did for a zoom call a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago. I did have a colleague on and I
Speaker 1: grab I have three mini CFP championship trophies and I
Speaker 1: placed them right over my shoulder here in the background.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't do that for you. Today. I've
Speaker 1: got I've got some good memorabilier or my Huey Lewis
Speaker 1: autograph sports poster over here. I could have thrown up, Wait,
Speaker 1: you got a Huey Lewis autograph poster? Yeah? Okay, why
Speaker 1: there was the eighties, right, You gotta love the eighties
Speaker 1: the sports album. Yeah. Well, and you know you were
Speaker 1: a golf coach, weren't you before? And he would play
Speaker 1: a ton of golf. Yeah, that was a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Actually not as long ago as the eighties, but very
Speaker 1: close to it. Commissioner's great to talk to you, and
Speaker 1: we appreciate your time. Good luck with navigating you got
Speaker 1: you got some choppy waters there ahead, and I don't
Speaker 1: envy you, but hopefully we'll be able to get through this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's clear as we've answered all the easy questions and
Speaker 1: only the hard ones are left. He here we go, right,
Speaker 1: that's true. Thank you, Greg, thank you. That's the commissioner
Speaker 1: of the SEC. I appreciate his time. Fritzie, what a
Speaker 1: sunk up? What are you doing? I felt trouble. I
Speaker 1: didn't even think of the whole connection with just wearing
Speaker 1: an Ohio was state jersey and that we had the
Speaker 1: SEC commission. I grabbed a jersey like ten minutes before
Speaker 1: we got on the air, and I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 1: said hi to him, and He's like, first thing, you
Speaker 1: gotta do it. You're gonna talk to me. And then
Speaker 1: it's dawned. I mean, what am I wearing a being
Speaker 1: ten jersey to the SEC? Cummers? I gotta change. I
Speaker 1: loved it. I hated the fact you changed your jersey,
Speaker 1: but I love Yeah. I loved that. Yeah, Paul, damn,
Speaker 1: we gotta hit a tailgate this year. I mean more
Speaker 1: this year, more than ever. We're not gonna have tailgate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we will. We're gonna find SEC. Yeah, the SEC. I'll
Speaker 1: have tail I think next year we hit a tailgate. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I went to a couple of tailgates
Speaker 1: in SEC country when I was in my late teens.
Speaker 1: I almost didn't make it back when I went to
Speaker 1: visit Old Miss and went to a tailgate, I almost
Speaker 1: transferred to that in school. I'm not kidding. I called
Speaker 1: my mom and said, I may I may transfer just because, well,
Speaker 1: you almost went to Alabama just because of the football.
Speaker 1: Absolutely true story. When I a friend of mine went
Speaker 1: to Alabama and a couple of years before me, and
Speaker 1: when I applied to go to Alabama, they told me,
Speaker 1: if you're a student, you get free football season tickets
Speaker 1: or you have the phenomenal fee. I was like, free
Speaker 1: tickets to Alabama football. Hopefully they have a journalism program,
Speaker 1: but if that, I'll change my major. I know when
Speaker 1: my son transferred and he wanted to go to USC,
Speaker 1: part of the reason is he wanted to go to
Speaker 1: the football games. And I said, you know, you need
Speaker 1: to go to school for something other than football. Like
Speaker 1: I have to say this in front of his mother,
Speaker 1: but then privately I went, hey, I don't blame you. Man.
Speaker 1: We go out there on that. If you walk around
Speaker 1: the campus of USC and you can get into USC.
Speaker 1: Then you go to USC. That's that's a it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful campus. And you know you might have to fake
Speaker 1: something like you were on a rowing team or something,
Speaker 1: but uh, yeah, too soon, you think for a little bit,
Speaker 1: maybe a little I remember that I was in New
Speaker 1: York and my daughter went to USC and my son
Speaker 1: went to USC. And my daughter calls me in a
Speaker 1: panic when this whole controversy breaks. She's like, Dad, tell
Speaker 1: me you didn't pay for me to get into USC.
Speaker 1: And I go, I'm paying, honey, I didn't pay an
Speaker 1: extra penny to get you into USC. The charges enough. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I get home and my wife goes, did you
Speaker 1: talk to Georgia? And I go, yeah. She's in a panic.
Speaker 1: She thinks that you paid for her. I said no,
Speaker 1: I paid the full boat for her while she was there.
Speaker 1: And then like weeks later, I don't hear from my
Speaker 1: son he went to USC. I said, hey, dude, didn't
Speaker 1: hear from me about this whole controversy. He goes, yeah, why?
Speaker 1: I said, well, did you want to know if I
Speaker 1: did something extra? Goes no, I didn't think you needed
Speaker 1: to to get me in there. And I go I
Speaker 1: said what do you think of the controversy? Goes now,
Speaker 1: I tell people that's how great an education USC is.
Speaker 1: These people are willing to risk going to prison for
Speaker 1: that education. And I said, thank you, Jack, that is
Speaker 1: an interesting spin on that. He didn't He didn't care that.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, people, they're allowing them in and they're
Speaker 1: not even they're fake athletes. He said, yeah, whatever it
Speaker 1: takes to get in, that's what they're willing to do.
Speaker 1: I go, okay, meanwhile, your sister thinks that I, you know,
Speaker 1: paid extra here. Yeah, McLevin, I did not know us.
Speaker 1: He was so hard to get into until this scandal,
Speaker 1: but it has it always been like this day. No, no,
Speaker 1: I think the last twenty years USC, prior to that,
Speaker 1: it felt like it wasn't as difficult. You know that
Speaker 1: the hard school to get into from out of state
Speaker 1: is UCLA. That's really hard. But you know, the California
Speaker 1: schools take care of you know, the residence, which I
Speaker 1: understand that, but you know, you start to look at
Speaker 1: these schools and you go my wife went to NYU
Speaker 1: and she said, I couldn't get into NYU right now.
Speaker 1: And I went to Dayton and I probably couldn't get
Speaker 1: into Dayton right now. Yeah, Paul, you know Dan, Guys
Speaker 1: like Set and I. We like schools that are more
Speaker 1: inclusionary men of the people. West Virginia, southern Illinois. They
Speaker 1: want more people. They want to bring lots and lots
Speaker 1: of people together. They don't want to keep pople out.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even get into crappy schools in the nineties
Speaker 1: when it was easy, so I got no chance of
Speaker 1: getting into school now. Yeah, but I love the fact
Speaker 1: that my son said, yeah, people are doing whatever they
Speaker 1: can do to get into USC. I think yes, Todd.
Speaker 1: Now Ken aunt Becky used that as a defense, it's
Speaker 1: such a great school. You I see that I had
Speaker 1: to do that. I don't matter what I have to
Speaker 1: do to get my daughter. And that's how great a
Speaker 1: school it was, and that would be enough to drop
Speaker 1: the charge. But you start to look at the pressures
Speaker 1: here and plus, as parents, you want your kids to
Speaker 1: go to a school, and then it's a reflection on you.
Speaker 1: Where somebody goes, Wow, Sun got into and your daughter
Speaker 1: got into. I said, I wanted them to go where
Speaker 1: they wherever they wanted to go, because then I have
Speaker 1: two other daughters that went to a small school in Ohio.
Speaker 1: It didn't matter to me they were going. I didn't
Speaker 1: want them to go to a school where I went, Hey,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, can't you go like Ivy League
Speaker 1: or something, or you know, step it up a notch
Speaker 1: here a little bit. I was like, Nah, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Wherever you want to go, you gotta go there. Take
Speaker 1: a break. Play of the day coming up, phone calls.
Speaker 1: We'll settle on a poll question right after this. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure
Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon
Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and
Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR
Speaker 1: or stream us live every day at YouTube dot com
Speaker 1: slash The Dan Patrick Show. Speaking of Jameis Winston in
Speaker 1: his introductory press conference with the New Orleans Saints. So,
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston is there and he's talking about he had
Speaker 1: Lasik surgery. He said that he doesn't have any blurriness
Speaker 1: and that's huge right now. He said that he has
Speaker 1: a sharper vision. That's the biggest thing. Then he says
Speaker 1: the following, as only Jamis Winston can do, I can
Speaker 1: say this when you're riding in a car and say
Speaker 1: you get into an accident and you can't read the
Speaker 1: license play to the person you just hit, but they
Speaker 1: just ran off because they didn't have insurance, right, stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I can read license plates. I can read
Speaker 1: street signs. I think the precision in the vision is
Speaker 1: the biggest difference. Read them. Wait a minute, what happened?
Speaker 1: Did you run into somebody? How many times? Like? How
Speaker 1: many times? You know how that happens? Like like you
Speaker 1: just like you run into the back of somebody, but
Speaker 1: you can't read the license plate that they take off.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like that, you know how that is right? Right,
Speaker 1: of all the analogies you use. I'm so looking forward
Speaker 1: to my next vendor vendor and all all of my
Speaker 1: eye surgeries. You know, when somebody says, hey, how's your eyesight?
Speaker 1: I had never once said, you know, when I run
Speaker 1: into somebody, I rearend them and I can't read their
Speaker 1: license plate, and then they take off because they don't
Speaker 1: have any insurance. It's not their insurance, it's your insurance
Speaker 1: that really matters here. Hey, I you know I can
Speaker 1: now read street signs, and so I can read the
Speaker 1: streets of where I ran into somebody and read their
Speaker 1: license plate. Yeah, hey, Jami's as long as we're admitting things.
Speaker 1: But I don't admit three years ago that you couldn't
Speaker 1: see Mike Evans on a fly pattern in the entire season.
Speaker 1: Did you see that there were price tags on the
Speaker 1: seafood you got when you were at Florida State. Did
Speaker 1: you see that they actually had to pay for those
Speaker 1: okay freedom squints and everything there? Yeah, Todd, I heard
Speaker 1: his offtenmull just said you had to pick six three
Speaker 1: pairs of glasses. So that was a nice gesture. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Todd McLevin. What kind of poll question do you have?
Speaker 1: I actually put up our one simple question, will the
Speaker 1: new rules clean up college sports? Yes? Or no? Sixty
Speaker 1: four percent said no. I don't even know what that
Speaker 1: means clean up college sports? Yeah, I know I left
Speaker 1: it vague. Well, if somebody, if you want to pay
Speaker 1: somebody and they're willing to accept, then you're gonna have
Speaker 1: that transaction. There's stuff that goes on now. It's it's
Speaker 1: not as prevalent as it was before, I think, but
Speaker 1: it's there because you're investing in a stock. If you're
Speaker 1: eighteen years of age, I'm investing in you. How do
Speaker 1: I get into your inner circle? I get your shoe deal,
Speaker 1: I get your money, I got you on the fast track,
Speaker 1: I got you in aged that. I mean, that's just
Speaker 1: common sense logic that would say this is how it works.
Speaker 1: And I do believe these players who are one and done,
Speaker 1: how do I steer you to a school? The shoe deal,
Speaker 1: the shoe contracts, they have a lot to say in this.
Speaker 1: I can take a coach out of this. I can
Speaker 1: even take the boosters out of this. And that's what
Speaker 1: some of these schools have been able to do with
Speaker 1: some of these recruits. Yamp On, Can you imagine these boosters?
Speaker 1: All these guys are gonna be told? So I could
Speaker 1: pay players legally, I don't have to bring a bag
Speaker 1: of cash over and drop it. I don't have to
Speaker 1: make a no show job for them. I could just
Speaker 1: pay them. Yeah, and I gotta pay taxes on it.
Speaker 1: I just wonder how much you're able to spend and
Speaker 1: do it legally above board, Bash and Ohio joins us, Hey, Bash,
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. A quick story. I'll talk
Speaker 1: fast at DC football in Telgating. My daughter Sailor, who's
Speaker 1: a senior This year, I at Indiana High School in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: home with Pete Rose's bookie. It's broadcast journalism major. We
Speaker 1: go on thirty six campus visits literally from Harvard to Hawaii,
Speaker 1: everywhere in between. Love USC. We're at Pepperdine. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to talk her into why she should consider Pepperdine. And
Speaker 1: she looked at me and says, Dad, I want to
Speaker 1: go somewhere that plays major college football. And I said,
Speaker 1: all right. Start She said no, I don't mean just
Speaker 1: good competing for the national championship. And I thought, oh
Speaker 1: my god. I've had such an influence on this kid.
Speaker 1: So she just makes her commitment. She's headed too, following
Speaker 1: David Pollock and Maria Taylor headed to Georgia. Nice and
Speaker 1: congratulations Bash. Why didn't she tell you that before you
Speaker 1: went to Hawaii and before you went to Pepperdine. Pepperdine
Speaker 1: doesn't even have a no Roy Way MS joining us