WEBVTT - The Karol Markowicz Show: The Attack with Kurt Schlichter 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:09.360 Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:13.160 Over the weekend, my husband and I celebrated our fifteen 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:17.160 year anniversary five years ago. On our ten year anniversary, 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.840 I tweeted a thread about where my life was before 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.840 I got together with my husband and how fast it 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.319 turned around. I'll read it to you so on my 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:29.240 tenure wedding anniversary today. I want to do this thread 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:31.880 in case it helps anyone going through a bad time. 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.519 I'm forty one. I got married at thirty one on 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.600 my thirtieth birthday. My life was a total disaster. I 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:41.360 was at the tail end of a seven year relationship 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.479 with a really great person for whom I was ill suited. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.159 I wasn't working, and I had no idea in what 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.199 direction to take my career. I was in debt for 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.360 the first time in my life because I made the 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.680 mistake of going to grad school yet continued to live 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.520 like I had the same high paying job I had before. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:02.120 I was a pharmaceutical legal straight out of college, which 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.000 paid well, but I quit that to follow my passion 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.200 into politics. I was in a dark place. I'm an 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:10.840 optimistic person, but I had a hard time seeing my 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.560 life improving. I wasn't suicidal. I don't want to minimize 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:18.480 people in real darkness, but I was completely adrift. I 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.840 was drinking a lot daily, and my friend Tom Elliott 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.640 kept asking why I'd always drag him to bars with 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.480 homeless people asleep in the corner. I didn't want to 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.640 be around functioning, normal thirty year olds because I was 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.840 so off the path, and also those bars never really close, 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.319 so four am would come and go and I'd still 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.120 be out. I'd sleep till five pm regularly. My husband 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.600 was actually my best friend. That's not just something we say. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.840 He was the main voice, along with my brother, who 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.640 would reason with me to get my shit together. But 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.920 it's so much easier not to seriously when you ain't 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.720 got nothing, you ain't got nothing to lose, which is 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.120 just so true. I don't have a secret sauce for 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.960 how things got better, But the summer of my thirtieth year, 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.320 I slowly started to pull myself together. I got a 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.440 consulting job, I spent more time with my now husband, 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.079 I went outside during the day. That's a big one. 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.320 It turns out I took better care of myself. After 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.960 some false starts, my husband and I got together for 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.880 real that Thanksgiving. We were engaged in September and married 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.639 the next April. Sometime I'll do a thread about what 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.000 went right in my career after we got married. I 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.840 had to fix myself before I could be with him seriously, 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.600 and then just being with the right person went such 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.280 a long way toward making everything else fall into place. 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.800 He knew all my faults and they were okay. My 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:41.960 big point is that everything seemed hopeless, really hopeless, and 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:43.880 then a year later I was at the start of 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.800 the best decade of my life. It can turn around 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.880 so quickly. Don't give up on yourself, don't wallow. Acknowledge 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:52.880 you're in a bad place, and work to get yourself 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.440 to a better one. I believe in you. So five 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:59.320 years later, I think about that thread and I reposted 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.440 for people who might be going through a hard time, 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:05.480 and look that thread. It's honest, But really it was 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.440 far worse than it sounds. I broke up with a 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.960 good guy because he wasn't the one for me, and 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.880 that's way harder than breaking up with a jerk who 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.720 treats you badly. Career wise, I was feeling that I 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:21.120 had made a huge mistake going into politics. I wasn't 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.920 a writer yet, not really. I had a blog and 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.160 I made a tiny bit of money from it, but 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.480 I had no idea that I could even be doing 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.000 what I'm doing now, and I retreated further and further 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:36.200 from my normal and successful friends. My husband was my 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.320 best friend, and when I say that, I mean that 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.360 whenever I met a nice girl, I would try to 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.800 set him up with her. He was worried about me, 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.840 and it showed in so many ways. But my point 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.440 here is not that life can be bad or hard, 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.800 and it's only partially the amazing things that can happen 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.360 to you if you're in the right relationship. It's that 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.840 it all can turn around very quickly. If you're in 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:02.840 a bad place, don't give up. Make incremental changes, small steps, 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.520 leave the house, talk to people who love you. There's 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.760 a light at the end of the darkness, even if 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.600 it's not obvious to you. Right now, my light was 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.720 brighter than I could have ever imagined. Coming up next, 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.880 an interview with Kurt Slifter. Join us after the break. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.800 Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:29.320 guest today is Kurt Slichter. Senior columnist at Townhall dot com, 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.720 retired Army colonel, lawyer. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.080 And author of The Attack. Hi, Kurt, it's. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:35.599 Nice to have you on here. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.240 So the attack. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.800 Scared the living Bejesus out of me, so we could 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:42.400 start there. 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:44.679 Why did you. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.440 Do that to me? And tell me about this? The 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.400 book came out in January. First of all, it came 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:52.159 out in January? 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:52.680 Is that right? 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:58.240 Yes, I saw the attack on ten to seven. I 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:04.800 immediately recognized the vulnerability here. I started talking with folks 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:10.120 at Regnory, and on October tenth, I started writing it. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.440 On November twenty nine, fish it Wow. Unfortunately Regnory went 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:20.520 away as an imprint, But I did what I did 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:24.440 with my Kelly Turnbol People's Republic novels. I got it 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:28.880 out very quickly on using Amazon as my distribution platform, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.640 and by January seventh it was out and it has 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.640 been selling like hotcakes and scaring the hell out of 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.720 people ever since, which is exactly what it was intended. 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:40.919 So can you tell us a little bit about the book? 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.800 What was your you know, what was a thinking behind it? 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:47.200 And you obviously have experience in this world. In fact, 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:51.640 you often write about kind of military topics and also 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:52.799 very scary stuff. 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:55.960 We'll get into that, but tell us about the book. 0:05:56.160 --> 0:06:00.280 Well, the book is a novel I could have done 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.080 as nonfiction, but I don't think that would have punched 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.000 people in the gut the way they need to. Essentially, 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.960 imagine a ten to seven attack here in the United 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:15.080 States with except exponentially larger because we have a wide 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:19.880 open border and a you know, an intelligence and law 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:24.000 enforcement community that's more focused on arresting people for walking 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.400 through the rotunda, taking selfies or praying at abortion clinics 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.560 than protecting us from mass murderers. And we've seen you 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.919 know you. Every time there's one of these psychos with 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:39.240 a rifle, you know he's been on the FBI's radar. 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:45.919 It's shocking. I took a look at events like the 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.640 Boston incident, where you had a couple of idiots with 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.159 pipe bombs and a couple of handguns and they managed 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.920 to shut down an entire city. Imagine thousands of guys 0:06:55.920 --> 0:07:04.359 with minimal training, simple weaponry, and simple instructions going on 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.039 a rampage. And this talks about the rampage from the 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.480 points of view of many different individuals. The way I 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.200 did that, I couldn't have like one character Forrest gumping 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:19.360 his way from the White House to a city street 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:24.160 where a bunch of psychos are killing people. So it's 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:30.120 about forty little vignettes of people telling what happened. If 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:34.120 you remember World War Z or World War three for 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.720 that matter, the old John Hackett book from the eighties 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.640 that really scared the hell out of people about the 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:45.080 Warsaw Pact. I use that style. I think it was 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.840 pretty effective. It has been scaring the hell out of people, 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.760 and that's what it's supposed to be doing, because we're 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.679 in a lot of danger. We are at risk because 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:58.000 we default to a peaceful and secure society, but we're 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:02.320 unwilling to do the things that were fire. They're required 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:06.040 to maintain a peaceful and secure society, and much of 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.520 what we do is frivolous and stupid. Much of what 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:16.000 we do is self defeating, you know. I think if 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:21.760 you look at our vulnerabilities, particularly the kind of people 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.400 who watch an MSNBC are particularly vulnerable because very few 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:32.080 of them are armed, you realize that as individuals we 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.960 are vulnerable, and as individuals we need to be able 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:36.480 to fight back, but we also need to be fight 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:40.360 back as a country, and this talks about all of 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:44.119 that from the perspectives of men and women, law enforcement, 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:51.040 regular civilians, government officials, bad guys as well, including homegrown 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.080 anti fought type terrorists who I think is to be 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.680 a willing part of this sort of thing. So it's suck. 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.320 It's a scary book, okay, And it's selling very well, 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.559 which I appreciate. I hope people listen. 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:06.240 I hope they do too. 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.680 I have to say that the thing that helps me 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.480 kind of sleep at night when I think about this 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:12.880 kind of stuff is that it hasn't happened yet. And 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.040 what do you say to that, the fact that we 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.679 haven't had any kind of attack like that yet, and 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.840 our border has been wide open for a while, and 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:22.720 we do have people across the world that hate. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.040 Us, Why do you think it hasn't happened, You. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:30.800 Know, Carol, I'm often stunned about how our enemies missopportunities. 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.800 We like to think there are enemies. Are these ern 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:38.160 stavros Blofeld, the volcano layer guys stroking the task, these 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:42.720 geniuses who can put all the pieces together. It's important 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.960 not to underestimate them. It's also important to be realistic. 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.880 A lot of them are kind of stupid. In fact, 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:51.520 as the book points out, a lot of the foot 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:55.920 soldiers in these things are stupid people, dumb people, people 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:59.040 in no future, who get sucked into these things and 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:03.040 do horrible, horrible things at the behest of much smarter people. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.640 I see them missing a lot of opportunities I have 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:11.120 always looked at, for instance, on a different level, President 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:15.679 g not moving to take Taiwan. I mean, you know, 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.400 it would be an audacious move. I'm not sure we 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.560 could stop it, and I kind of wonder why not. 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.679 I don't think it's the goodness of their heart. I 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:33.120 just don't think they're as unbelievably talented as we sometimes 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:34.280 make our enemies out to be. 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.120 You write and tweet a lot about our military largely 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.640 falling apart. You do you feel like that that is fixable. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.160 I have a town hall column that'll run on March 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:52.040 seventh about that very subject, with a lot of focus 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.920 on the frivolous trans idiocy. I mean, when you have 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:59.360 a full colonel coming up, who is a man pretending 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:04.800 to be a woman addressing other officers, that's not a 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.600 serious military and I might give a little more leeway 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:14.920 to these kind of social fads. If we had unequivocally 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:16.960 won a major war in the last thirty years, which 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.240 we have not done. I was there the last time 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.040 we did. I was there at Desert Storm. I was 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.400 in the seventh Core main command post, and we achieved 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.160 a victory on par with Hannibal or Julius Caesar. We 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:32.040 destroyed what thirty six divisions and one hundred hours. It's unbelievable, 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:37.360 just unbelievable. And since people know, I'm. 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:38.840 Going to drop that line by the way to my 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.040 history loving son, because I don't know anything, so I'm 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.120 going to be like, you know, it was a victory 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.800 on par with Hannibal and Julius Cesar. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.360 It absolutely was. And if you're right, we could do 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.120 a deep dive in a Hannibal at CANi, but we 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.360 don't need to do that. The simple fact is we 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:59.240 had the most You know, there are legendary military forces 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:03.640 throughout history, and the American military of nineteen ninety one 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.080 would have to be in the top ten of any 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.680 serious list, you know, with the Mongols, with Hannibal's army 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:15.840 in Italy, with a Julius Caesar and Gaul. It's just 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.760 it was a pinnacle, and as for so many as 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.880 with so many things, we took it for granted. My 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:30.400 theory is, you know, we're being run by the third generation, 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.720 right Like you look at the Fords, and you know, 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.120 Henry Ford had a lot of issues. He was a 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.240 jerk in personal life. He was also a genius who 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:44.400 revolutionized manufacturing and he built a giant empire. And the 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.880 second generation of Fords took that and made it even 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.720 bigger than you know, they brought us the Mustang. I mean, 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:55.400 it's just Ford is a multinational corporation, just a huge achievement. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.560 Name me a third generation four. It's like naming me 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.959 naming a third generation Kennedy. Okay, you want to meet 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.880 one of them. You know they're they're there, Toyota Corolla 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:07.480 is idling in front of a crack house. 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.319 Okay, do we just get too comfortable? 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.720 Is that we had what we are? We are run 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:18.280 by trust fund babies. Our institutions were not built by 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.800 the people who run them. They were not uh they 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:26.280 didn't suffer, they didn't put any sweat equity in. They 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:30.200 were handed them these institutions thanks to their credentials. You 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.320 went to Harvard, great you're now qualified. So look at 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.800 I mean, generationally, look at it. The World War two 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:40.840 generation beat beat Hitler, beat the depression, the next generation, 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:45.040 you know, civil rights built America into a superpower. And 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:50.719 the third generation, what's it got? Only fans and the grinder. Okay, 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.559 I mean the the the people who run our institutions 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.680 right now are not running the institutions to have the 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.839 institutions do what the institutions are supposed to do. It's 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:04.840 pursue their own personal agendas. The thing about institutions is 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:08.719 the institutions have to actually perform their function or they 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.640 lose all credibility. So if you look what's what's the 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.800 institution that works today is at academia? No? Is it 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.800 the media? No? You know? Is it the military? No? 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.280 You you you look at polls in. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.280 Health care agencies no. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:31.840 And uh and they and the credibility uh uh just shrinks. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:35.680 So these people are simply defending sinecures rather than actually 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.120 doing jobs. So we are run by cultural trust fund 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:42.160 babies who are not accomplished people. They're not particularly right, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:47.360 they're not particularly good at their job. This is why 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:51.040 we have a war on accountability. You know, I mean, 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.160 there is nothing our ruling class hates more than being 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:58.600 held responsible. And look, I've got some issues with Donald Trump, 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.840 but Donald Trump is accountability in the sense that he 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:07.920 was elected because you guys suck and and nobody nobody about. Yeah, 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.600 nobody exemplifies that better than Hillary Clinton, who he beat. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:17.720 Hillary Clinton is a unaccomplished, not particularly bright woman. She 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:21.080 failed the District of Columbia bar exam for God's sake. 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.200 I mean, she had a pulse and everything. How do 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:27.120 you do that? She's she's no genius. She got went 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.360 to the right school and married the right guy, and 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.520 that that's that's who she is. But that's emblematic of 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:37.400 our ruling class. They you know, they get they get 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.840 hand to a silver spoon and then imagine that they 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.880 somehow mine the ore. But they didn't. And they're terrible 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.320 and they're only concerned with maintaining their power. That's what 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:50.200 aar democracy is. It's not art democracy, it's their sinecures. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.840 What would you say is our largest cultural problem, Like, 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.200 what do you think we need to tackle first? 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:01.240 Basically, Uh, there's so many. I I think we have 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:06.720 to re establish normality in the sense that it's the 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.160 normality that I grew up with. I'm not sure whether 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:13.080 you were here during the seventies or eighties, but that was. Yeah, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:19.480 there was a sense right that kings worked one perfect 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.400 you know. I mean there were there were problems, there 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.560 are always problems, but there was a sense that, you know, 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.400 justice is kind of going to prevail, you know, the economies, 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.880 we're going to get through it. I'm going to be 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.160 better off than my parents were. You know, I can 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.840 generally walk the streets safely. I'm not going to get 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.760 arrested for saying something. Government's not going to stop me 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:45.600 from saying something. And none of that's true today, none 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.280 of that's none of that's something we can rely on. 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.480 We have to get back to that, and that means 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:56.800 reorienting our ruling class, because there's always a ruling class, 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:02.520 and I am hoping that we don't have to completely 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:07.000 fail before we have a reform move. But right, you know, 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:14.520 the the old thing about weak men make hard times. 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:19.479 You know, hard men make good times. Good times make 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.200 weak men. I mean, there is a cycle to history, 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.520 and I just you know, I don't want to run 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:29.280 out my personal life clock on the downslope of the 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.640 Bell curve. But here we are. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:33.840 Yeah, you're still in California. 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.439 That's a surprise. I do have you just want to 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.159 be the last one to turn out the lake. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:45.199 Literally, I literally have one or two conservative friends left here. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.440 There used to be a vibrant community when Andrew Breitbart 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.760 was here, a lot of people and they're all gone. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:56.560 The people in California are not the communists, not the 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:03.600 welfare cheats, not the losers, not the Chardonnay soaked wine moms. 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:08.280 It's people like me and I am. I'm going to 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.600 be spending more and more time in Texas. Yes, Arena 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.560 wants us to get a third place in Florida. 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:15.240 I love her. 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.640 I watch it too. I love Florida. If there wasn't 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:22.040 family in Texas, I got the only Manbin family that's 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:28.000 not in Miami. But no, you know, I got here 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:32.240 in seventy two, and you could feel, even as a 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.600 little kid, I could feel the excitement. It was a 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:35.480 beautiful place. 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.080 I used to love California. I mean I loved it. 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:45.000 It was a governor. He there was always a sense 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.000 and I never didn't have this sense that I could 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:50.480 do whatever I want to do. I went to school 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.159 at uc San Diego, went off to the Army for 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:54.639 four years. But I came back and I went to 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.119 Los Angeles. Now I grew up near San Francisco, and 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:58.760 then I went to school in sandiw but I'd never 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.359 been to Los Angeles, and I knew Los Angeles was 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.840 a place you go to do what you want to do. 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:05.440 And you know care I was able to make it. 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.920 I built a law of firm. I was a stand 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.879 up comic. I became a best selling author. You know, 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.399 I built a family. I did all these things that 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.840 I wanted to do, and it never occurred to me 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.400 I couldn't. But we have a whole generation to young 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:26.560 people now who only see limitations, They only see constraints, 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.720 and that's not what California is supposed to be. It's heartbreaking. 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:31.080 Do you feel like you've made it? 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:35.679 I know, I feel like I have a lot of 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.080 things that I want to do, but I'm not. I 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.640 don't feel like I've missed something. I feel like I've 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.080 always been an optimistic California kind of old time California person. 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:47.880 I'm looking to the future, going there's all these neat 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:52.560 things I can do. You know, what are you thinking? 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:54.040 What do you what are you gonna do tell us. 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.840 Maybe I'll write a movie. Maybe I'll start another company. 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.119 I'm certainly gonna write more books. Who knows. Maybe I'll 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:04.240 get a radio show. I'm a guest host for Hugh 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:08.400 Hewitt tomorrow. I mean, I's some suburban kid from California, right, 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:11.199 and I'm going to talk to two million people for 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:12.919 three hours tomorrow morning. 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.440 That's amazing. Yeah, I'm not special. 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.879 I'm not particularly I'm not an idiot, but I'm not 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:27.000 a genius. I just I just don't think there are 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:30.000 any limits out there. And I want other people to 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:35.919 get that too, Because I'm excited about tomorrow. I always have. 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.480 It's like, what's going to happen next? I mean, what 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.040 cool thing do we do now? 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.879 I've seen you excited about rain, you know. 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:49.520 I remember that you and Arena were in Florida and 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.280 it was raining outside and you both ran toward it 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.760 like it's so cool. But then you guys got a 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:57.800 lot of rain in California, like right after that. 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:01.480 I feel like, but in. 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.480 How we should all be excited about all the new 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:06.480 things that can happen, all the things you can do. 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:10.280 I watch people who spend their lives on video games. 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:14.240 Or you know, on the internet all the time. And 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.040 I'm on the Internet a lot, but I'm enjoying and 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.800 I'm learning new things and doing things. I look at 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.359 Twitter as my Sudoku. It's a you know, can I 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.359 be funny? Can I be clever? Can I be pippy? 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.640 And there's just so many There's so many neat things, 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:32.480 and I just want to do them now. Sometimes I 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.640 just want to chill. That's okay. I love my routine. 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.560 I have my favorite restaurants and everything. But I think 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:43.600 I'm essentially excited about life, and I don't like that 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:47.080 the younger generation doesn't seem to feel that way because 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:50.280 they've been told they can't and that doesn't happen. 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:52.200 How do you challenge that with your own kids? 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.240 Oh gosh, Well, they're teenagers, so they don't talk to me. 0:21:56.119 --> 0:22:00.320 They're finding their way in the world, doing interesting things 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:03.639 and not the things that I did, not that not 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:07.880 not necessarily the past that I've taken. But uh, you know, 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:10.840 there's there's a world out there and they've you know, 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.240 they they've got some of I don't, which is youth. 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:16.679 They got they got this whole future ahead of me. 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:17.520 It's very exciting. 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:19.800 We're going to take a quick break and be right 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:25.639 back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. What would you be 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.639 doing if you weren't in the media or a lawyer world? 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:30.199 What would be a plan be? 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:35.200 I don't know. Yeah, there's so many things. I could 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:37.120 have stayed in the military and tried to do some 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.560 cool stuff there. I mean, I was in the reserves 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:44.000 for Rocco, stayed active. Uh. I always thought building another 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:48.040 a different kind of business might be interesting. Who knows. 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:50.080 Maybe i'd be a park ranger and take people out 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:52.679 and uh, you know, show them, you know, do the 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:57.399 little uh midnight star watching things. I always enjoyed those. 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:01.040 I mean, gosh, I like that answer. 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:01.840 Park ranger? 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:07.000 Why not? I mean, that's just yeah. I have always 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:09.840 promised myself I'm never gonna get in a situation where 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:13.320 I wake up dreading the day on a regular basis. Yes, 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.119 I mean as a lawyer. Sometimes I'm like ah in 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:18.800