WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Kentucky Meat Shower 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.000 Thinking Sideways is not brought to you by a basket 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.760 of deplorables. Instead, it's brought to you by your local 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.440 animal rescue. That's right, Dogs, cats and all kinds of 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.280 other critters are out there up for adoption and you 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.640 need one, and more importantly, they need you. And really, 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.159 believe me, it's not just you rescuing the cat, the 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:21.080 cat or the dog. That animal is a really good 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:22.799 to enrich your life. I know it's enrised all of 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.520 our lives to have nice little pets, and it will 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:27.920 yours too. And hey, if you've already got one, you 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.640 can always still do something because there's lots more need 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.400 out there. 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And 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.880 since it's my turn, I decided that I would dig 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.760 into the old history book and find us a rather 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:55.480 old story. It is. Uh. This week we are going 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.200 to talk about what a story that is. God, it's 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.400 almost almost a hundred fifty years old at this point, 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.920 and for dred and fifty years. No, no, no, no, 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:09.239 it happened in eighteen seventy, six hundred forty years h. 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:15.680 I was just looking at the six I'm at yeah, yeah, no. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:20.200 This week we're gonna be talking about the Kentucky meat Shour. Uh. 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.919 And this is a listener suggestion. This was suggested by 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:27.359 Blake and a whole bunch of other people. Blake's the 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.440 first one that's on the list. But I know that 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.560 we've gotten this many many times because this is an oldie, 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.799 but a goodie, right, popular little story. It's a fun one. 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.240 I didn't realize it. You know what act if you're fun, 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.600 if it's fun, if you're not actually there on the spot, 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.840 well yeah, but you're not a cat. But Here's the 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.080 thing is that you see this story one list and 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.440 it seems like kind of a simple story and whatever. 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:54.079 And then I actually started cutting into it and found 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:55.880 out what was there. Was like, oh, this is good. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.799 I mean carving into carving into it. So let's turn 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:03.440 up the heat and let's see what we can make happen. Alright, 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.760 was the clumsy pun? It was, But it's my week 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:12.160 and I'm always clumsy with the puns. Okay, shall we begin. 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:18.079 Our story takes place on March third, eighteen seventy six, 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:22.400 just outside the town of Olympia Springs, Kentucky. According to 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:26.720 reporting at the time, Mrs Alan Crouch, who, by the way, 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.840 being a woman, didn't deserve to have her name listed 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.080 in the official recounting because it's the eighteen hundreds and 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.240 she's a woman. Apparently, because I dug everywhere and I 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.440 could not find her first name. Actually it's Mary. Did 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.880 you find it? God? I kept looking and looking and 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.840 look at it. It couldn't find it. It was really 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.200 making me mad. Do you post some links about the story? 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:53.160 Was it in there? It? No? Because I kept looking 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.920 in the old newspaper archives and I think that's what 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.000 was throwing me off. Okay, all right, well it is 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:06.160 Mary Crouch, uh, and she was outside making soap, and 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:10.320 she and her husband Alan were both in the yard. 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:15.920 This is at sometime between the hours of eleven am 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:22.080 to twelve o'clock, the meeting hours at some place they 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.360 call it chapel our. Yeah, and they're out there, they're 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:29.279 enjoying the day. This is, according to the official narrative, 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:33.960 while they're working, when suddenly it began to rain. And 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.600 we don't mean the normal kind of wet rain that 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:42.120 you and I know a winter, right. Instead we mean 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.440 the gross, meaty kind of rain, you know, the other 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:51.440 kind of rain. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's wet rain, there's hail. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:56.240 And then apparently this story the next phase is meat. 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:01.920 So so all of her getarian listeners, you're not gonna 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:07.599 like this episode, um so, according to the official narrative, though, 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:13.640 for somewhere between two to ten minutes, depending on the 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:20.159 accounting that you read, Mary and Alan Crouch watched as 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:24.000 what appeared to be small pieces of meat fell from 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:29.440 the sky. They described they none of it was baking though, 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.080 so it was terrible, but they described it as being 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:38.279 quote delicate shreds as light as a snowflake unquote, while 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:45.560 others were quote a solid lump three inches square unquote. Again, 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:47.799 this is I've kind of found a bunch of sources 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.960 kind of come up with my averages here. But my 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.120 average size for the material that was falling out of 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:59.840 the sky is somewhere is around five by five centimeters, 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:04.400 which would convert to about two by two inches, with 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:09.400 the largest chunks being somewhere between two and three times 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:16.040 that size. So there, yeah, out of the sky at 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:21.440 this point. So were the crouches the only people who 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.600 saw this happen, Yes, so they are the only ones 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:28.320 to witness the event. There will be others who very 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.880 shortly show up, but they're the only witnesses that I 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.760 can find record up to the meat actually falling from 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:38.680 this guy. Correct. So the couple they watch in amazement 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:45.160 and probably you know, stupefied as this is happening. Their cat, however, 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:50.400 goes into an immediate feeding frenzy and runs outside and 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:58.880 gorges itself on this sky sky filled bounty. Name uh full? Okay, 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:00.520 So I have no idea what the it was. The 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:05.279 cat was full a yeah, absolutely, like your typical farm 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.800 cat in those days probably didn't get a great diet. 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.360 Oh it's not. Yeah, no, no, it's not like you 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.520 weren't feeding the cat and hoping that it would catch mice. 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.600 The cat subsisted on whatever it costs. So this was 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:22.800 a literal bounty from heaven. Yeah. Yeah. So the couple 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:27.080 they watched this happen, shortly one or two people show 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.360 up at their house. And this is weird because I 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.200 don't understand why these in both of the names of 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.400 these people, I can't really find record of did you 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.760 find him? I did not, dang it. I screwed up 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.920 in the first one, not the second one. But these 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.960 people show up, and at least one of them actually 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.240 ate the material that fell out of the sky. Would 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.640 you eat that crap? Oh no, no no, But in 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.360 this d and age, you know, we have different sensibilities. 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.960 But at least one of the people did consume some 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:03.400 of the material and said that it tasted like mutton. Alright, 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:05.720 I'm not willing to say that I would have been 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:10.160 above eating that. Yeah, I mean like today, yes, in 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:14.120 like the eight hundreds, maybe not, maybe, maybe not, Okay. 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.800 I would just be concerned that maybe there's some human 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.360 flesh in there somewhere, and so I probably eighteen hundreds. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.559 I probably just would have assumed it was like God 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.880 giving me something beautiful, and I'm kind of like a 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:29.760 cat apparently just been like me, it's intended just for me. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.800 A well, remember to waive your paw when you need 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.160 to use the box, and we'll take a break. Thank you. Okay, 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:42.240 So the reporting that I have found, again, the numbers 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.000 are going to vary from site to site that reported. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:50.520 But the meat fell on an area of approximately one 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:54.640 hundred by fifty feet. If we convert that to meters, 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:58.599 that's going to be thirty by fifteen meters, and it 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.600 coded it pretty pretty solidly. But by the next day, 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:06.040 of course, this material is all begun to spoil. It's 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:11.640 all going south, which is not surprising. Mess I can 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:17.280 I cannot imagine. All right, get up, honey, we gotta 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:22.640 clean the meat off the fence and the law and everywhere. 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:27.040 Like I couldn't imagine the screw. Just let it sit 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:31.040 there and eventually dry out. It'll go away, get it. Yeah, 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:36.840 it's revolting. Yeah. Local scientists and investigators would come out 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.320 to the home and they would collect samples and they 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.280 would attempt to preserve them, and what they would do 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.199 is they apparently they were putting them in jars a 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.319 glycer in which um glycering is. Joe helped me. I 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:52.400 suddenly cannot think of what that is. Hell, I can't 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.440 remember either. It's like I didn't realize I didn't know. 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.120 The only thing gliser is gonna do keep it from 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.960 air well. Yeah, but it's also but that should also 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:05.599 then keep it from decomposing, because it's Oh god, I 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.960 know they used to use glycerin in a lot of 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.719 old tiny stuff as a preservative. All I know is 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.640 that they still have a few of these samples laying 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:19.880 around in jars today, but those are preserved formaldehyde. Oh yeah, 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.800 the formaldehyde is going to be for a long term preservation, 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:26.280 much better. Yeah, obviously the glycer didn't quite cut the mustard. Yeah, 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.280 that seems silly. Yeah, they're still around. I had no 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.160 idea if they still look like what they used to 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.920 look like. But I don't know that they do. But 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.720 could you You couldn't test them since they've been in formaldehyde, 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.120 and I would I would say that after a hundred 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:48.840 years and formaldehyde usable DNA has probably been destroyed. Yeah, 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.520 I mentually you could probably still take slices, look at 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.600 the cell structure maybe at least like if it's meat 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:59.120 or something else. Yeah, we'll get into some of that 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.600 in theories because we've got some information on that during 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:06.280 the theory section. But for overall preservation, yeah, they don't. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.520 They don't look the same. Obviously. They don't look nice 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.360 and fresh and pink and white like they did on 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.880 day one when they fell in Mary and Alan Crouch's yard. 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:25.120 Twinkies were originally based on you don't know, um, so 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:30.199 the samples would be examined by scientists and a whole 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:36.400 slew of suggestions would be made. Yeah, totally was, and 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.160 people kept saying, oh, well, it's got to be this, 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.680 it's gotta be that. I mean, some people said that 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.920 it was bear meat, while others, I'm guessing based on 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:49.000 the taste tests, said it was mutton. Yet others said 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:53.080 that it was lung tissue, which is creepy and weird. 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.280 And yet other people said that it had to be 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:01.800 an analogy of some sort. So there's a huge bevy 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:06.600 of theories of what this stuff really was that that 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.120 showed up in these people's yard. I don't know that 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.800 if somebody were to just you know, sit me down 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.840 and say, taste this meat and tell me what you 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:18.600 think it is. I definitely couldn't say like mutton necessarily, 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:19.960 but I mean, you know, we don't need a lot 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.680 of mutton. I was gonna say, actually, mutton is obscenely distinct. 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.080 Is that? Yeah? I haven't eaten a whole lot of mutton, 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.679 but I have eaten it, and it's it's one of 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.080 those things where when you bite into it and you 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.680 taste it, you know you have you ever had bear? 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:38.600 I have not had bear, so maybe it's the same 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.920 as bear. No bear again, Bear is one of those 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.840 gamy animals that gamy animals all kind of taste the 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:50.480 same as way as well, and gamy animals are much 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.720 different than mutton. It's I don't know how to describe it. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.760 I'm not a foodie, that's true. I don't know either. 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.800 If I haven't had muff, mutton is so many years 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.079 after gotten how it tastes, so I had no idea. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:07.439 It's weird. It's a good No, No, I don't think 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.520 it's good. I'm not a fan of much. We're gonna 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.160 get some good emails about that. Oh well, that's fine. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.480 You know what I like to I like my sheep sheared, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:20.160 I don't like them barbecued, So that's that's fine with me. Yeah, 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.400 I mean, we've got a po box. Please send us button. 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.800 No no no no no no no no no no, 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:30.160 Please do not send us buttons. Okay, fine, okay, send 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.560 us just jerky or something, Okay, believe it or not. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:35.880 Unlun well, actually this is kind of in line with 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:39.120 your last one of your last episodes. The story was 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:44.640 amazingly short, while we had a relatively decent section for theories, 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.840 and we're in one of those again. Oh yeah, was 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.160 it hell dot Com? I don't know. All I know 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:53.120 is that we're about ten or fifteen minutes into this 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:57.400 and we are already theories. Yeah, which is yeah, it 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.199 just kind of it's the actual story itself. But mean, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.840 there was a big, you know, aftermath too, because it 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:07.079 was speculated on for years like plus yea by scientists 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.319 and everything, but especially still around the time that it happened, though, 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.199 there was a matter of intense speculation for at least 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.320 a couple of weeks, a couple of months something like that. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.520 Actually I think a couple of years, because there was 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.400 a couple of scientists who I remember the things that 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.960 they wrote because they didn't get because it took so 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.840 long for some of them to get the samples that 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.640 you know, I mean, think about it. It's eighteen seventy six, 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.040 and it takes a long time for a horse to 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.960 travel across the country to deliver a vial of something 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.200 for somebody to look at. So we actually was years 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:45.960 that this thing continued to have information, not necessarily new information, 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.600 but information per se to come out about it. Did 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.800 you see, by the way, that that that plaque that's 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.640 along the side of the road somewhere in the Olympia Springs? 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.480 What this this sounds familiar, but please refresh my memory, sir. Well, 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.080 if you go to the maps and you type in 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.840 Olympia Springs, Kentucky, and then you know pictures on the left, 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:06.240 you know, so you click on the picture and it's 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.840 his plaque. It's a roadside plaque, really nice like bronze plaque, 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.600 and everything talks about Oh, you know, in this year, 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.680 you know, the citizens of Lexington came out to what 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.640 was it called mud Lick Springs. That's what the springs 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.560 ever called mud Lick Springs? And wait, I thought it 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.560 was the escaped the collar epidemic or something. And in 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.280 this year the Battle of eighteen twelve this happened. Then 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:31.600 in this year theout the Civil War battle was fought nearby. 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.280 But they didn't mention the meat shower at all. Interestingly enough, 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.480 maybe they're embarrassed about it. I don't know, it's gonna 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.320 say they're they're in the meat closet. Yeah, that is 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.560 just that is just unfortunate. Yeah, so I guess we're 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:48.080 ready to talk about all right away. Let's just dive 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.720 into theories. A little butter in the panel, Let's see 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:55.880 what comes out. You've never cooked meat. I don't think 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.120 you've ever cooked meat, is what I'm starting to think. 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:04.120 Oh wait a second. You have never taken a piece 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.880 of beef and thrown had gotten sizzling hot butter and 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.760 thrown a thin piece of beef in the pan. Of 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.680 course I have. I just keep questioning your insistence that 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.280 we're just gonna quote see what comes out, like you 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:17.840 don't know what's going to come out of that pan 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.400 that you've just put in. Listen, I'm trying to maintain 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:26.320 an air of mystery. Year. Come on, we're a mystery podcast, alright. Nobody, nobody, 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:31.840 can smell the aroma of what I'm cooking. Theories, Yeah, alright, 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.640 theory number one, Well, this was the initial suggestion is 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:39.600 that it was a bacteria. According to a man named 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:47.400 Leopold Brandies, the material was actually cyano bacteriak algae, and 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.600 this particular algae was known to look powdery and rather 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:55.280 unassuming when it was dry, but when it was wet, 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:59.000 it would swell up when it came into contact with water. 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.560 And I think we've all probably seen this kind of stuff, 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.240 because it's weird powdery stuff. You'll see on the forest 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:08.400 floor around the base of trees sometimes and then you'll 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.800 come by and it's this weird kind of whitish, gelatinous 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:18.919 jelly stuff during a rainstorm. That's the kind of stuff 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.160 that he's talking about here. He said that what had 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:26.640 actually happened was that this stuff was around the area 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:31.480 and all over the property of the Crouches and that 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:37.240 and somehow it got wet. This is a little contrary 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.639 to the story, of course, because according to the Crouches 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:47.399 it was a nice cloudless blue sky day. So where 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:51.800 the water come from from? Well, yeah, the well, the 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.360 thing about it is is like if it's been present 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.680 in their yard. Wouldn't this be happening routinely? And that's 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.840 exactly exactly the problem with this, this initial theory. And 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.560 to answer Devon's question, what he's saying is that this 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:09.960 stuff swelled up and then they immediately grabbed it and 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.680 threw it in the glycerin so that it didn't dry 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.399 back out. Sure, No, that's fine, that's not what I'm asking. 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.439 I'm asking like they're saying, well, like, where did the 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.320 water come from? I don't know. I feel like I 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.520 can explain where water just happened to appear way better 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.400 than I can explain where meat just happened to appear, 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.760 because they're saying like it was a cloudless, beautiful day 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.280 and the meat just came raining down from nowhere. Like 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.880 I'm way happier to especially living in Portland, Oregon, where 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.440 I know you can look up even it's pouring rain 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:40.160 on you, and you can look up and it's blue 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.639 sky right above you, and somehow it's pouring rain on you. 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:47.199 Happy that we would have nicknamed this meat algae a 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.320 long time ago if it looked like meat when it 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.760 got wet. Well, we don't know that the crouches were 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:57.959 particularly intelligent humans. I mean, just in general. It doesn't 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:02.359 have to just it was a bacterium mutation, you know, 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.560 if this was something that happened naturally on a regular 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.760 basis to look like this, because in the descriptions, and 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.679 here's what we haven't talked about so far, is in 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:16.600 the descriptions, like people took the knife to this material 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:22.000 and said that it had the striations of muscle with 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.680 little bits of gristle and fat in it, Like it 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.119 looked like you cut it out of a cow or 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:32.399 a pig or a chicken or whatever, not gelatinous like 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:35.480 you would expect something to be if it was just 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:40.879 a cyanobacteria that swelled up at the introduction of moisture. 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.200 So the problem with this is right off the bat, 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.119 that does none of that make sense? I think another 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.919 problem with it, too, is that there was reportedly blood 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.520 on the ground around around the chunks of meat. There 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:57.840 was some blood. Was it blood? I struggled with that. Yeah, 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:01.239 I mean go ahead, Joe, I because I was like, 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.919 reportedly people said that there was some there was some 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:08.320 red stuff presumably blood on the ground, and so it's like, well, 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.399 you know that would come from me, but from this 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:15.040 bacteria stuff. Probably not. Yeah. Plus, you know, bacteria has 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:19.320 been scientifically proven cannot tastes like mutton. Yeah. Yeah, she 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.920 has done extensive studies on this. No, I agree, it's 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:25.240 it's a bad theory. I just wanted to know. No, 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:26.720 you just wanted to put more holes in it. I 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.520 totally understand. Let's let's move on to the next theory, 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:36.679 which I have titled space meat. Well, you know it 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:41.439 does microwave quite well. But space meat was one of 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:46.399 the very first and honestly funniest explanations from the time 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:50.320 that this happened. According to the reports by the quote 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:56.080 unquote experts, the meat was actually from meteors and I 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.080 don't know, I don't know how we're spelling meat yours, 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:04.000 but it was from meteors that had come into contact 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:09.120 with the Earth and fallen from space backwards. I mean, 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:11.200 doesn't that doesn't don't they fall from space and then 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.520 come into contact with the Earth. I think this is 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:15.600 I think with the way I wrote this was, I 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:19.399 meant it came into contact with the Earth's gravitational pull 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:25.520 and fell from space. Um, but you love it. If 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.159 you want to finish this, well yeah, sure, I just 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:32.320 want to clarify this as a theory from Yeah, totally, totally, 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:38.440 this is from is going to make that very clear. Okay, 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:44.520 So the theory goes, because there was no bone fragments 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:48.640 found in any of this material, it must have been 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:54.960 the remnants of an exploded planet of creatures that had 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:59.000 come into the path of our planet. And then of 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:04.120 course that debris field of exploded rock and planet and 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:10.240 creature matter was then drawn in and fell to the 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:14.160 Earth from space because we went through the debris field 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:18.240 of that dead world. And so so it's all aliens. 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:22.160 This is literally it's alien chunks. Is what was falling 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:26.359 from the sky of spectacular like meteor crashes around that 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:32.920 time too, though, right ye if yeah, rock meteors, yes, 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.320 not meteors. Yes, you're right. If if this were true, 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:39.280 there should have been a lot of meteors coming from 0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:43.440 the sky in general, in in the time frame. No, 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:46.720 there's not. I'm sorry, simpler thing, If this were true, 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:49.720 the meat would have been cooked or vaporized. It should 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:51.800 have been burned up on re entry. Yes, yeah, you 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:55.600 would think it would at least be medium. Well, but no, 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:59.320 that is like a monster. Well, although I guess on 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:01.639 the other hand, and just to you know, play the 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.320 aliens advocate for a minute. We don't know what life 0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:06.760 looks like on other planets. For all we know there 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.919 is some sort of meat that is resistant to high velocity. 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.199 It does need to be cooked at a thousand degrees 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:15.680 for forty seven minutes. Yeah that the surface of their 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:18.040 planet is like a thousand degrees So yeah, this is 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:22.240 like a chilly day for that. Yeah, we're actually keeping 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:25.040 the meat nice and cool for that. You know, this 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:29.040 is this is it's fun. It's a fun bunk theory 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:35.680 because it is literally from the era eighteen seventies six 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:39.239 theory before anybody actually knew how space worked or had 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:41.840 a good, you know, better understanding of how space worked 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:44.720 than it wasn't a commonplace and there were there were 0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:48.320 people that understood gravity and and all that stuff. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:50.919 that's why I was trying to So there were actually 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:54.520 alien creatures and trunks of aliens that came down to Earth. 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:57.720 That's what this is a recounting. But you know, we 0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:01.840 know that because we know this isn't because everyone knows 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:06.600 that aliens tastes like chicken and not mutton, which I mean, 0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:09.760 really is the bar that I'm working on. Well, it 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.040 actually makes no sense too, because I mean, the aliens 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:14.440 always eat us. We never do we ever write the 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:18.440 aliens in the move No, no, now we we run 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:20.879 from the aliens. We dropped the baseball bat when we 0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.439 beat the bad guy. Yeah, none of this, none of 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:27.879 this is actually happening. Um okay. So the next theory 0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:31.320 that and this is also from the time. The next 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:36.160 theory is that this is meat products from heaven according 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.919 to this theory. And please don't interrupt me, because I 0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:40.960 wrote this and I'm very happy with the way I 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:44.840 crafted this sentence. It says, God giveth and God taketh, 0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.240 and in this instance, he gave it the people of 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:51.400 Olympia a rain of meat. So that was probably from 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:55.200 the local preacher and the actual entire theory right there. Yeah, 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.680 because that's entirely what I made up. Because there were 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:01.359 I'm being a bit of a jerk, coming a bit 0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.919 of a pill about this. There were men of the 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:08.280