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Speaker 1: Sauce on the side.

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Speaker 2: What's up. It's Gandhi and I'm here with Diamond Hitter.

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Speaker 2: Hi Hi, And today I say this because I already

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Speaker 2: know what the podcast is going to be strap in.

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Speaker 2: Literally we have Ben Bollen and Noel Brown from the

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Speaker 2: Stuff They Don't Want You to Know podcast, which is

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Speaker 2: all about conspiracy theories, which is one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: things to talk about. I don't even know that they're

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Speaker 2: really conspiracy theories anymore. It's really just the did you

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Speaker 2: know the actual truth about this type of stuff? And

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Speaker 2: that's where we go wrong because we don't know.

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Speaker 3: No, we don't know. Okay.

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Speaker 2: I hate to be this person because you know, I

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Speaker 2: hate thee There are facts, but they're also alternate facts.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anything anymore. I don't know what I

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Speaker 2: believe about anything anymore. It's very genius the way that

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Speaker 2: this has all rolled out, which we've talked about a

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Speaker 2: million times, Diamond, is there anything specific that you wanted

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Speaker 2: to hear about.

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Speaker 4: I want to hear about whether or not Trump actually

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Speaker 4: got shot?

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Speaker 2: Oh you know that's up first. Yeah, we already know

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Speaker 2: speaking about facts. Did you see I just saw Oh shoot,

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Speaker 2: I just saw that one of the guys who wanted

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Speaker 2: to investigate that assassination attempt in Butler was got fired. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: interesting stuff. I'm sure Ben and Knowle have a lot

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Speaker 2: to say about it. Let's just get right to it.

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Speaker 5: Baby son of buds, get out of here. Leading off

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Speaker 5: with this because the stupid Jimmy Buppett theory.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, I think you're just fascinated because you're irritated by.

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Speaker 2: A I'm you kind of irritating because of this. See

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Speaker 2: how by everybody sheep see you later? Who's a sheep

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Speaker 2: on his desk?

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Speaker 1: Andrew's hilarious?

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Speaker 2: All right? I am with Ben and Nol from the

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Speaker 2: Stuff They Don't Want You To Know podcast. Hello guys, hiy,

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Speaker 2: thank you for joining. I've been waiting for you to

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Speaker 2: come back for over a year because I have so

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Speaker 2: much fun talking to you and in the last year plus,

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Speaker 2: the amount of things that have service.

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Speaker 6: No notes, keep going, you know, definitely gives us job security.

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Speaker 3: No question.

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Speaker 2: I mean, from the from the inane little thing like

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not even comparatively it's inane. But I

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Speaker 2: would love to talk about the hollow Moon. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you guys have any thoughts on that.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I think the moon landing was faked by Stanley Kubrick.

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Speaker 6: But because they he's such an odd tour they needed,

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Speaker 6: they had such a budget, they figured out the only

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Speaker 6: way to fake the moon landing was to go on

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Speaker 6: the moon and fake it there, Chris, that's actually happened, Layers.

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Speaker 2: But then to the I was asking Ben this earlier.

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Speaker 2: I don't think President Trump got shot. I think that.

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Speaker 3: Got shot Wolverine.

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Speaker 5: He just.

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Speaker 6: Get shot like that. People who believe that story, I

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Speaker 6: have never seen someone be shot in real life, or

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Speaker 6: have never themselves been shot.

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Speaker 3: They thought it was a photo because.

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Speaker 6: It heals too quickly and cartilage right for anybody who's

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Speaker 6: been boxing or doesn't have a clip, it doesn't grow bad,

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Speaker 6: not that that way.

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Speaker 7: So he would have had several rowdy notches.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember when that happened, Everyone you knew was

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Speaker 3: just immediately like, oh he's gonna win now. Yes, that

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Speaker 3: staged for that very reason.

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Speaker 2: I mean everything about it from start to finish, and

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Speaker 2: who he is as a person. There's not a chance

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Speaker 2: in hell that if he thought there was still an

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Speaker 2: active shooter or multiples, because you don't know that quickly.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: You don't know if it's contained.

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Speaker 2: That his ass gets up in fist pumps.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the photo.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you it was a great one. It's

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Speaker 2: on point now if you ever want it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh good. That was my next question. So what

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Speaker 6: did he say when you guys interviewed him about it?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would absolutely happen. First sure, I feel like

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Speaker 3: Smile more to.

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Speaker 6: You.

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Speaker 6: Why I was going to give you flawsheim shoes smile

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Speaker 3: A ten and a half. Dhi name.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's heard of it, nobody cares.

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Speaker 2: Somebody knows. But I was showing Diamond a video the

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Speaker 2: other day because this is this is my evidence that

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Speaker 2: this never happened. Do you guys remember when he was

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Speaker 2: at some sort of rally and he was speaking and

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Speaker 1: Ship himself.

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Speaker 3: It's like like like different than usual, different it was.

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Speaker 6: I was impressed with his agility at that moment.

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Speaker 1: There's back out.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was like I gotta give it to him. Man,

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Speaker 7: he's slippery. Good to know, you're so right.

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Speaker 2: So Diamond had never seen that video. She didn't know

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Speaker 2: what I was talking about. So I showed her the video.

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Speaker 1: Will you come over to the mic for a second.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen the one where he gets scared by

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Speaker 3: the eagle? Yes?

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Speaker 7: Have you seen the one where he gets This is

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Speaker 7: where you say which one?

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Speaker 2: Right? So, Diamond, when you saw that video, because we

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Speaker 2: were talking about this specific conspiracy, and I said, I

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Speaker 2: just need you to watch this and then tell me

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Speaker 2: that this is the same man who jumped up and

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Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on the video?

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Speaker 2: That was not the same man? He reacted very differently.

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Speaker 4: And also, what we don't talk about enough is that

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't have let him do that, right, right.

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Speaker 2: I actually have a friend who was in the Secret Service.

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Speaker 2: He said every single thing about that was wrong. He

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Speaker 2: saying there's someone on the roof. What is this person

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Speaker 7: Yes, should be human shields at that point.

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Speaker 2: And now when you see it from all the different angles,

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Speaker 3: Do you the Maxi pad on his.

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Speaker 2: Head also where they were wearing it in support shot.

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Speaker 6: But then when the news cycle moved on, that old

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Speaker 2: So that was just one in Diamond and I have

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Speaker 2: been having so much fun with it. I remember where

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Speaker 2: I was when I heard the news. It was June thirteenth.

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Speaker 2: I was in my friend's car. We were going to

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Speaker 2: dinner and this news comes out, Oh, Donald Trump got shot.

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Speaker 2: I said, no, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Please, please, nobody believes this.

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Speaker 2: He's alive, He's this didn't happen.

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Speaker 6: It was awkward with us because we live in uh

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Speaker 3: I remember where I was too, and I just remember

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Speaker 7: If he survives, he's won.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was wild, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I sit here and now I'm that person

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Speaker 2: who when I meet a new person, I hate small

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Speaker 2: do is, so, what's your favorite conspiracy theory? Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: has happened that there's nothing I wouldn't believe is possible,

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Speaker 2: which is a fascinating place to be at in life.

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Speaker 3: It's making comedy really hard. I'm told no, no, like

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Speaker 3: I think it was. Conan was talking about how when

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Speaker 3: to kind of like poke fun at it and requiring

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Speaker 6: Yeah, comics are our friends who are like writers for

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Speaker 6: and they're like, is it irresponsible of us to have

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Speaker 7: Even though he's really good?

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Speaker 6: Like, are we pass the point where this is something

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Speaker 6: we can make fun of?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do cry.

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Speaker 3: I think his cabinet is like fair game, but like

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't you say they've pivoted away from future?

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Speaker 7: They have?

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Speaker 6: We have, we have it, We have that confirmed, and

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Speaker 6: I think it's better for the show, not the Lord

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Speaker 6: Michael's asking us every day.

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Speaker 7: You know, that's a once a month call it best.

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Speaker 6: But but I agree with you that there we say

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Speaker 7: There is no whistle like a graveyard whistle.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes if you can't find something to laugh at, things

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Speaker 6: will get even darker than they felt at the beginning.

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Speaker 2: So I think so too. And let me tell you,

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Speaker 2: this feels like the darkest time I can remember in

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Speaker 2: my entire life. Okay, I'm glad that people are directly speaking.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm trying to think of something to compare

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Speaker 6: Can't say that yielded age leading to great depressions of Chicago,

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Speaker 6: the overthrow of the US government.

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Speaker 3: The government, the mad Emperor of Rome, you know it?

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Speaker 3: And burns. Yeah, I guess we named a handful.

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Speaker 1: You did You did name something without having.

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Speaker 3: To resort to the N word?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 7: The other one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know when Nazi became the N word

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Speaker 2: like it's a thing. It's it's why just because you

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Speaker 2: be that doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Mean that it's suddenly a horrible word.

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Speaker 6: They're building they're building camps, literally building camps.

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Speaker 1: And because mine is always about profit.

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Speaker 3: Ben, you know there's a lot of these in our

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Speaker 2: So let's boil these down really quickly.

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Speaker 7: Oh good, Pizzagate is.

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Speaker 6: Pizzagate was a theory that came up under an Internet

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Speaker 3: Grape soda was another. And so when that came out,

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Speaker 6: Even these art code words like ooh, I do hope

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Speaker 7: And it's like, how good does your can I curse

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Speaker 6: How fucking amazing does your lawyer have to be to

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Speaker 2: we're all just letting it go. Europe is doing better

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Speaker 3: We've talked about that. There actually a little bit of

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Speaker 2: How do we not know?

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Speaker 7: Right, they lost like all the all the files.

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Speaker 6: This is the thing, all right, There are real victims

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Speaker 7: Also, this is one facet of a larger empire.

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Speaker 7: I have Jewish heritage and I have to be yes.

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Speaker 3: As reductive as saying that all Americans support Donald Trump

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Speaker 7: People don't want the nuance though, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, nuance is harder to sell. Nuance is harder

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Speaker 2: But just with more information than we've ever had, people

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Speaker 2: And so many of these conspiracies all go back to

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Speaker 2: And that has nothing to do with Jewish people. It

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Speaker 2: And I'm fascinated by it. From Donald Trump, fake getting

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Speaker 3: that from a real place of like I don't get

447
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Speaker 3: it right, Why I don't fully get it? And the

448
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 3: only answer can then be either concern about appearances of

449
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 3: being anti Semitic from a pr level, or compromise something serious.

450
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Speaker 6: Compromist maybe, but it goes across administrations and it's gone on.

451
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Speaker 6: So the official reacing is a loan democracy in that

452
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Speaker 6: part of the world. But that's not it's like democracy asterisk.

453
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Speaker 2: First of all, I'm no longer believe in it after

454
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Speaker 2: I watch the traders. I don't know if once you

455
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 2: watch the majority of people come to a decision together

456
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 2: based on evidence they think they have, You're gonna.

457
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Speaker 1: Be like, why why do you get to vote? This

458
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: is crazy?

459
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,959
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be allowed. But also, this isn't really democracy.

460
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 2: It's not the majority of the people.

461
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 3: That college made sure of that.

462
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 1: But again, they did a really good job telling us.

463
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Speaker 3: And they're selling it to the bred and circuses of

464
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Speaker 3: the campaign. It's you can participate in.

465
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Speaker 6: We're pro clown on our show. Okay, Like I'm very

466
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 6: pro clown. I want to get in front of that one.

467
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 6: But we just don't think they should be in the

468
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Speaker 6: political class.

469
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Speaker 2: You know what I meant, clown.

470
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Speaker 1: We don't love a clown running the country.

471
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Speaker 3: Can also think that political dynasties are not good, and

472
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Speaker 3: they have historically been the law of the land or

473
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Speaker 3: the way that it's gone. So we're not just picking

474
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Speaker 3: on Trump here, We're not. We're picking on the politics

475
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 3: throughout recorded history of this country never been great.

476
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Speaker 2: I mean, I tell Timon all the time. I now

477
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 2: have no faith in either side.

478
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

479
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,959
Speaker 2: There was a time I was like, Okay, I'm going

480
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,239
Speaker 2: to a hardcore rail for one side of it, and

481
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: now I'm like, you pussies.

482
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Speaker 3: The Wonders. It's awful.

483
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 7: It's weird to be because it's.

484
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Speaker 2: Better than pussies, because vaginas actually quite strong lass, sorry,

485
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: then I cut you off.

486
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Speaker 7: It's just it's weird though, because to that point.

487
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Speaker 6: You know, for anybody, if you've traveled around you have

488
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Speaker 6: friends who are not from the United States. I've had those.

489
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Speaker 6: I've had those moments. We're very close friends who are

490
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 6: well meaning, they're not trying to be jerks, and they're going, hey,

491
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Speaker 6: Ben's you guys have that democracy thing in the United States.

492
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Speaker 6: I'm like, well, yeah, on paper, you know, we got

493
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Speaker 6: a represent Okay, But to me this, how come the

494
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 6: presidents are so often related to other presidents.

495
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Speaker 1: Are they really don't win the popular vote.

496
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Speaker 7: And sometimes don't win the popular vote?

497
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 6: Are they really the best person out of three hundred

498
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Speaker 6: and twenty something million people for the job.

499
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Speaker 3: The answer is no, becomes the NEPO baby arguments. You were, Yeah,

500
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Speaker 3: they're born on third base, they have access to all

501
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 3: of this education and influence all of that. But I

502
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 3: think we're saying it maybe even goes deeper than oh yes,

503
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Speaker 3: and I think that's true.

504
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Speaker 2: So to another conspiracy, deeper than that, what do we

505
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: think about the Reptilian people? Is this a possibility?

506
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Speaker 3: You mean all these weird plastic surgery freaks, that's shade

507
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Speaker 3: on getting any work done, doing what you want to

508
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Speaker 3: feel good about yourself.

509
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: There needs to feel shame.

510
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 3: What is going on with the like it's like an obsession.

511
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Speaker 3: It's a crazy.

512
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Speaker 6: Especially because it's becoming Yeah, that dysmorphia though is uniformized. Yes,

513
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Speaker 6: uh in the current administration, it's a I thought it was,

514
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 6: you know, body shaming or picking on people. And then

515
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 6: we started looking at comparing contrast through face a face.

516
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 7: I love that one.

517
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: That's not a conspiracy, that's just facting an image.

518
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: The other day of the new board of the Kennedy Center.

519
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Speaker 7: Oh, I thought I thought it was photoshop.

520
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: I was like, I saw and Reddit someone said it

521
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 3: looks like when Dwight cut the face off of the

522
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 3: CPR dummy in the office and put it on his

523
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Speaker 3: own face.

524
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Speaker 7: There's that one with it just this, That's what I

525
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Speaker 7: don't know.

526
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: Also, we need to hold plastic surgeons accountable for what's happening.

527
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: Because people are rich.

528
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 2: I know what I don't understand, but they clearly have disorders,

529
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: have body dysmorphia. And if you don't look in the

530
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Speaker 2: mirror and see, holy shit, I look like I was

531
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Speaker 2: brought back to life. You have a problem.

532
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Speaker 6: You could save a Mickey Rourke fellow plastic surgeons. Like

533
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 6: that's that's the thing. Maybe it's maybe we need to

534
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 6: rule similar to bartenders you are legally required to stop

535
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 6: serving you drinks if you're wasted. Yes, maybe walk in

536
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 6: and you have to say, well, hey, uh, this is

537
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Speaker 6: your fifth or sixth.

538
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 7: Time on this.

539
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Speaker 3: It just is like like the movie Excellent Dystopian kind

540
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Speaker 3: of nineteen eighty four s sci fi satire by Terry Gilliam,

541
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 3: crazy plastic surgery addiction in that film, also Escape from La.

542
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 3: You'll recall that what's his name? Bruce Campbell plays this like,

543
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Speaker 3: you know, weird dystopian future la plastic surgeon who looks

544
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Speaker 3: like make you work.

545
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Speaker 6: I mean, I understand when cartel leaders get plastic that's right.

546
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Speaker 7: Like we're on board with that. We always oh well yeah,

547
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Speaker 7: of course notco terrorists.

548
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

549
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Speaker 2: The board of directors at the Kennedy Center some astounding stuff.

550
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Speaker 2: I was like, they really rolled these old dinosaurs out here,

551
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Speaker 2: and we're like.

552
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Speaker 1: Enjoy what what again?

553
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Speaker 2: And then it's one of those things where like is

554
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Speaker 2: this am I being punked right now?

555
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Speaker 6: Is it?

556
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Speaker 5: Is?

557
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Speaker 4: It? Also?

558
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Speaker 7: Is it?

559
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Speaker 6: Maybe because of the social dynamics like, especially when you

560
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 6: are past a certain threshold of wealth and influence, your

561
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 6: circle gets smaller and smaller, like the people you consider people.

562
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Speaker 6: So when I looked at those folks after figuring out

563
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Speaker 6: it wasn't just really mean photoshop, I started to think,

564
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Speaker 6: what how did they get to this place? Are they

565
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 6: the only people they hang out with? And one person

566
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Speaker 6: starts getting a procedure and the other person's like, yeah,

567
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 6: I think my cheeks are kind of mid too, and

568
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 6: so they start escalating in like an arms race where.

569
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Speaker 1: They just go to the doctor and they're like, hey, doc,

570
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Speaker 1: fuck me up.

571
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Speaker 3: It becomes there's a David Cronenberg film called Crimes of

572
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Speaker 3: the Future. They heard these performance artists who like do

573
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Speaker 3: plastic surgery as performance art, like you know, get limbs

574
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: grafted to their heads and stuff like that. But if

575
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 3: you're in a small enough circle bind and that becomes

576
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Speaker 3: the flex of wealth, you got to have that weird

577
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 3: ass mod done too, you know what I mean, Like,

578
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Speaker 3: I'm with you on that bend. I think it is

579
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: such a bubble situation where they're only looking at each other.

580
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Speaker 6: Oh, Nigel, I didn't want to say it in front

581
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 6: of the group, but you're quite a peasant.

582
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Speaker 3: Face, exactly.

583
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: I see a wrinkle. I see, Oh, there's so much.

584
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so we described pizzagate and we were talking about

585
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 2: something else right after that, the detention centers.

586
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: Then we'll get to the legion of people.

587
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: So, okay, privatized prison which is not actually conspiracy.

588
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: That is a fact.

589
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: We know that prisons got privacy, but I think a

590
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: lot of people don't know that. So one of you

591
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: would like to explain the privatizing of prisons and then

592
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: go down to these detention centers.

593
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Speaker 3: Do you have historical context of when that started becoming

594
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: more of a thing. I remember when I was a

595
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: young early days in my career as a reporter for

596
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Speaker 3: public radio, and there was there were a lot of

597
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: these impoverished communities around where I grew up in Augusta, Georgia,

598
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: that were absolutely decimated by the housing crisis and the

599
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: collapse of that because that a lot of these these

600
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: communities relied on manufacturing of the fabrics and various building

601
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Speaker 3: materials like that, so they literally lay, yeah, wiped off

602
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Speaker 3: the face of the map. So what happened was these

603
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: private prison companies were doing bids to see which impoverished

604
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Speaker 3: community they could build their private prison in and I

605
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 3: went to a thing in a gym where everyone showed

606
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 3: up because they were stoked about getting that janitor job

607
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 3: or whatever it might be, prison guard in any particular

608
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: potential position. But that was like in you know, two

609
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Speaker 3: thousand and two.

610
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: So this actually says because I looked it up, it

611
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 2: probably looked like I was texting. I was not. I

612
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: asked one were prisons privatized, and it said modern private

613
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: for profit prisons in the US began in the early

614
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Speaker 2: nineteen eighties.

615
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Speaker 3: I was thinking, it's probably that early, but when the

616
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Speaker 3: war started to say, thank you, ben so, I only

617
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Speaker 3: I only was trying to set you up.

618
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Speaker 6: Oh no, this is perfect because I love how they

619
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Speaker 6: have that caveat in their modern private prisons. Because for

620
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Speaker 6: a lot of US history, you know, this is a

621
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Speaker 6: country that has separation of church and state, but has

622
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Speaker 6: never had separation of state and business.

623
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Speaker 7: So the so.

624
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Speaker 3: Mentioned the argument that slavery and and was just converted

625
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: into the present slavery. Yeah.

626
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Speaker 6: This so historically, going back to days of the colonies

627
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 6: and stuff, a lot of these prisons are what we

628
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 6: would consider privatized. And then you've got the you know,

629
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Speaker 6: like Nola's saying, post slavery era or post emancipation, then

630
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 6: we have very corrupt things that are pretty much private

631
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Speaker 6: prisons private slavery, right, and they're just they're literally leasing

632
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 6: out these people, many of whom didn't do a crime

633
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 6: in their lives. So private prisons now are just sort

634
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,479
Speaker 6: of a reiteration or a new pattern of what we

635
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Speaker 6: saw in the past. How do they tie into this

636
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 6: idea of detention centers? They tie into detention centers because

637
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 6: private prisons in the modern age were actually not that

638
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 6: big of a slice of the prison industry overall, which

639
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 6: is huge here in the United States by any measure.

640
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Speaker 6: But they had a very p offitable, tiny piece of

641
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Speaker 6: the of the pizza.

642
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Speaker 7: Sorry it's on my mind, And so they got to

643
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Speaker 7: the pizza, back to the pizza, and so they.

644
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Speaker 3: Something prison pizza.

645
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 6: We just started it. But what what eventually what happened

646
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 6: was that they they got a lot of public outcryes.

647
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 6: People began learning about private prisons and learning about how

648
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Speaker 6: they do the same damnable stuff that private equity firms do. Right,

649
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 6: they shitified prison. If you could make it worse, the

650
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 6: food got worse, so it could be cheaper, security got worse,

651
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 6: hygiene was terrible. They were packing people in like sardines,

652
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 6: and they had to pivot because politicians were getting heat

653
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 6: from this. They said, okay, well you've already paid me

654
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Speaker 6: my money, so best of luck to you, but we're

655
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 6: not going to give you a new contract. And that's

656
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 6: when they sent their lobbyist in. In our opinion, that's

657
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 6: when they sent their lobbyists to Washington and to other

658
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 6: halls of power, other thing and said idea.

659
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know how we're like a country of immigrants.

660
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: What if?

661
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 7: What if?

662
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: What if we were presupposed dark around here? Picture? But

663
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Speaker 3: what if? What I was talking about earlier though, in

664
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Speaker 3: near Atlanta and the suburbs, there's literally this this insane

665
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Speaker 3: warehouse facility that was just purchased by DHS and it

666
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Speaker 3: will be, if you know, retrofitted whatever, the largest not

667
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Speaker 3: only detention center, prison, anything of its kind, indoor holding site.

668
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Speaker 1: We're building camps.

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Speaker 3: Say it because Ben posted the question earlier. If they're

670
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: trying to exports the wrong word, deport all of these people,

671
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: why do they keep needing to build more and more

672
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: space for keeping them here? Exactly under lock and key.

673
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: It's an extension of the prison system, and it's not

674
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Speaker 3: even you don't even have to have done.

675
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Speaker 6: A ground and we think or I think it's okay

676
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 6: for us to this on air. We're we try to

677
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 6: be objective, but sometimes when you're being objective, it can

678
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 6: make you look partisan because people don't always like facts

679
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 6: that don't hit their worldview. And we're pretty certain that democracy,

680
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 6: as imperfect as it is, is endangered here. The midterms

681
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 6: are coming up, right, and that I'm just saying, claiming

682
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 6: publicly that you are deporting people for one reason or

683
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 6: another and calling all these innocent people criminals is actually

684
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 6: pretty clever cover for building things that mean you can

685
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 6: start locking up people on mass Because the thing about

686
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 6: fascism it always needs an other. I'm not going to

687
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 6: soap box too much, but you will at some point

688
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 6: be that other, no matter who you are well.

689
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: And yeah for everybody.

690
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: Yes, when you don't think it want when you sweep.

691
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: Somebody up into this right and even if it turns

692
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 3: out all their papers are fine, sometimes already in the

693
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: system and they might not ever get out. You know,

694
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 3: they might get lost or god forbid killed. We know

695
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: people are dying inside of it. Absolutely, so you don't

696
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: even have to have done the crime or had the

697
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: actual real reason for them to snatch you up. But

698
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 3: once you're in, you're kind of in.

699
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Speaker 7: So again. Twenty twenty six ten ten No notes, you mentioned.

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Speaker 2: The midterms are coming, Yes, which is going to bring

701
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Speaker 2: me to another I don't know about this. Do you

702
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: believe Donald Trump won the election by the landslide that

703
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: he seems to have won the election by?

704
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Speaker 1: Do you think he won the election at all?

705
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Speaker 6: I'm sorry to cut you off. No, we might differ

706
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 6: on this, but I personally, yeah, I'd love to hear it.

707
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Speaker 6: I don't know, man, what do you think?

708
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 4: Well?

709
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Speaker 3: I just think that there were there was a lot

710
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: of influence that was happening on behalf of the Trump

711
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: administration from Russia. I do believe yeah to be true.

712
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: I just think that's definitely true. You know, I've seen

713
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: it in other elections, a lot of the flooding the

714
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: zone with you know, bots and all of that. With that.

715
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: I don't know that they like hijack voting machines or

716
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: change the numbers, but I just think they helped flood

717
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: all of this misinformation into that that objectively affected the outcome.

718
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 6: I hear you.

719
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 7: I think that's very fair.

720
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 6: I think to add to that, technocrats or technic arcs

721
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 6: like Aila Musk definitely fucked with the election.

722
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had control of some voting machines, did he not?

723
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: So how can we one?

724
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: I don't understand how that's not a conflict in some

725
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: capacity that you have this person saying I want him,

726
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to pay you money to vote, not vote

727
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: for him.

728
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm just going to pay you to vote, and now.

729
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: I coincidentally have control over these machines in swing states.

730
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Speaker 3: Remind me, yeah, I don't remember the machine's bit.

731
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 7: That's the machine.

732
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 6: Similar to the earlier Dee b Old scandal with electronic voting,

733
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 6: where people were saying those things got hacked or influenced.

734
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: Uh, there are This was in the election that Trump

735
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 3: claimed that he was stolen from.

736
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: Him, right, Yeah, we just all got the information that

737
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: in fact it was not.

738
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Speaker 6: It was not because he sent folks down the Devil

739
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 6: went down to Georgia today to investigate Ali gab.

740
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Speaker 7: Right, yeah, oh gosh.

741
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 6: What a super villains as to investigate voter fraud allegations.

742
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 6: And they did find evidence of voter fraud, but not

743
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 6: what they were expecting the other way with the other way,

744
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 6: which is like uh, calling the police at a car

745
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 6: accident for the cops to come up and say, oh, yeah.

746
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 3: No, it's definitely your fault.

747
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 6: Right.

748
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 3: Maybe I didn't know the updates, so that raid was

749
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: basically a wash. I was wondering why we hadn't heard

750
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: a follow up to Okay the.

751
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Speaker 6: Gatherer was scared the heck out of us original copies?

752
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 6: Is what id they basically shod a raid?

753
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Speaker 7: Uh?

754
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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I think it's fair to say that we

755
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 6: as well as as well as our brother in arms

756
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 6: Matt Frederick diplomatically put, we have serious, credible questions about

757
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 6: the legitimacy of this election, this most recent presidential election.

758
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 6: You know, a ton of Americans don't vote anyway outside

759
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 6: of the you know, our little every four year super Bowl.

760
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 3: Some of those folks can make them mad enough, they'll

761
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: they'll show up.

762
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: And these midterms are so important, and local elections are

763
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: so important, and people don't talk about how important they are.

764
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: That's the stuff that makes a difference in your day

765
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: to day life and the people that you're putting up

766
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: there to say, where is Congress, what is happening right now? Well,

767
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 2: did you vote for the right people to be in Congress?

768
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: Who's to say?

769
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Speaker 6: And this is well, this is where we can appeal

770
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Speaker 6: to personal vanity, which I think is always a very

771
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 6: effective way to get people to participate in those kind

772
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 6: of conversations. Don't think about, you know, the line, don't

773
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 6: think about the larger implications. Figure out how you're going

774
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 6: to vote, and then just remember, for the rest of

775
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 6: that week you were going to be like pre college

776
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 6: rob out Kanye West. You're going to be so much

777
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 6: You're going to think you're so much better than everybody.

778
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 6: Bring it up in every conversation where someone yeah, you

779
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 6: get a sticker, rock the sticker sticker. Also, I sometimes

780
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 6: like to save the sticker until it's time for me

781
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 6: to get in an argument, and then you're just going

782
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 6: to like.

783
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 7: Rock up like actually, as.

784
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Speaker 6: By the way, it's not my turn to do the dishes,

785
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 6: because I did the dishes for America.

786
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Speaker 1: You did your.

787
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: Job to the private, privatized persons. And these these detention

788
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: centers that are being built. I'm sure you guys have

789
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: already gone down this rabbit hole and we don't need

790
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 2: to completely explore it. But if you've never read about

791
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: the link between the hip hop industry and privatized prisons.

792
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: That is a fascinating read, and that one sent me

793
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: down such a dark path. I was angry. I'm still

794
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: angry about it, but it's like, huh, what an interesting

795
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: way to go about doing this.

796
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Speaker 6: I remember when we first started looking into this because

797
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 6: it was another like said earlier, Gandhi was one of

798
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 6: those things where you first read it and you go.

799
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Speaker 7: Right, no, no way, right, And you're.

800
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 6: Very connected in the music industry, more so than Noel,

801
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 6: Matt and myself. But when we were first when we

802
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 6: first heard the story, we were like, okay, you know,

803
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 6: who hasn't been high in a college dorm room?

804
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 7: Like, that's what this makes us think of.

805
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 6: But if you look through the allegations, the idea that

806
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 6: the FBI or certain shadowy government agencies we're having these

807
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 6: private meetings with.

808
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Speaker 3: Record labels, why would that happen, right, and tell.

809
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 7: Them what to sell?

810
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 6: But then we started thinking, you know, government agencies, intelligence

811
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Speaker 6: agencies can also control mass media, like the FBI can

812
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 6: go to the New York Times and say ooh, heel boy,

813
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 6: and they have done it, and so maybe rap isn't

814
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Speaker 6: that different. We say that as fans of hip hop,

815
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Speaker 6: and I know I bet them in your mind. Billy Corgan, thing.

816
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: About the Sasquatch didn't appeared to him. No, that's a

817
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: different way for sir. No. No, but what I I

818
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 3: didn't remember, I didn't know. He sure is, don't meet

819
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: your heroes. Hem Sorry. The hip hop to prison pipeline,

820
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 3: as discussed in the podcast Louder than a Riot and

821
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 3: other things, there was a letter that came out in

822
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Speaker 3: twenty twelve.

823
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to say I remember reading like an

824
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Speaker 2: eighty six page some sort of like release about Okay, yeah.

825
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: For sure, just to you know, I needed to refresh myself.

826
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Speaker 3: We are saying that hip hop record executives and private

827
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 3: prisons had a deal so they would flood the zone

828
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 3: with violent extra wrap content that would then create more

829
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Speaker 3: inmates by you know, violence, drugs.

830
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Speaker 2: Well, just really bad behavior targeted a very specific group

831
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: of people that they wanted to go into these detention centers,

832
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: privatized prisons, whatever it is.

833
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 6: We're already impoverished and wouldn't have legal resources to fight fight.

834
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Speaker 2: Let's make it cool. Let's make them all think it's

835
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: super cool. And the rappers that don't agree with this,

836
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: are not on that same page. You're not going to

837
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: get the same type of publicity.

838
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Speaker 7: The record deal, Right, Yeah, Crazy.

839
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: Kanye busts on the scene and does his thing, and

840
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: he didn't rap about drugs and guns and any of

841
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 2: that stuff. And now you know he's down his own path.

842
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 6: What's that old jay Z line? I always thought reference this.

843
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 6: I used to rap like common sense till I made

844
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 6: my first mill. I haven't wrapped like common sense.

845
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.

846
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Speaker 2: For you for being able to quote that diamond. Had

847
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: you heard about this? Are we saying something new to you?

848
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: Haven't heard about this?

849
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: Whoa there?

850
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 2: Feel like this would be very interesting to you? Are

851
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: you interested in it?

852
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: Ben? Do you? Do you see any parallels?

853
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 5: Though?

854
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: Within the argument becomes well, is this the same as

855
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: saying heavy metal caused people to worship the devil? No? No,

856
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: that's so. Then my question becomes is it gangster rap

857
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: that's causing people to do gangster shit? Or is gangster

858
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: rap just about this community in this world that already exists.

859
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 3: That's it becomes a question of influence. If we're going

860
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: to go down the rabbit hole of this was a

861
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 3: successful campaign to increase population.

862
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: Were there meetings between like the heads of the Satanic

863
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: Church and heavy metal. We have the meetings that we

864
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: know happens between the FBI, CIA and whoever.

865
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Speaker 3: With Sure, I'm really doing more talking about whether it

866
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 3: would be a successful or not.

867
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Speaker 6: And like if we were project managers, what would our

868
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 6: metrics be?

869
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 7: You know what?

870
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Speaker 6: That's scary because in this case, the metrics would be

871
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 6: coming from intel agencies in private prisons and they would

872
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 6: have like a spreadsheet with a little graph on it.

873
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 6: They'd be like, this is great, you guys, more of this.

874
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 7: I don't know that's.

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00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: The best part about what we're doing though, because we're

876
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: just talking shit, like this is what I think based

877
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 2: on these things that I've read. I don't have fact

878
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 2: necessarily to back it up, but based on the evidence

879
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: I have seen, it seems like it's very plausible.

880
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't does everyone have intuition.

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Speaker 3: I'm very concern But I'm just saying, at the end

882
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: of the day, we're not just talking shit. I mean,

883
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 3: we're kind of going with our gut. We are backing

884
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: it up with as many facts as we have access

885
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: to it.

886
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Right, but we're not saying for this happened.

887
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: You can't sue us. You're just saying this is what

888
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: we have have come to our best, our best conclusion

889
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: based on the things that we've seen.

890
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 7: We also not true. Maybe not true.

891
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 6: I like that, but we're saying it's not implausible, which

892
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 6: I think is very fair and iwight edge toward. I

893
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 6: think it is quite possible that something like that occurred.

894
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 7: There's often a grain of truth in these things.

895
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 6: So some like that occurred, but maybe not to the

896
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 6: level we are or some people are imagining. But the

897
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 6: music industry can get touched so easily now, right, Like

898
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 6: when I was mentioning Billy Corgan, who is just a

899
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 6: fascinating character, saying there was a get rid of rock

900
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 6: music and replace it with gangster rat and he said

901
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 6: the only way you could explain that was a government conspiracy.

902
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 6: And not to be a jerk, you know, I grew

903
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 6: a big fan of the Smashing Pumpkins and Corgan's work,

904
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 6: and I was thinking, well, that's that's one option. There's

905
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 6: also the option that maybe just your album didn't do

906
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 6: as well as you wanted, Like that takes the CIA okay,

907
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 6: but yeah, it's interesting because it is plausible that the

908
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 6: music industry could be touched.

909
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: Every industry could be touched. Everyone can be touched, Which

910
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: brings me to my question for you guys. Within the

911
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: last year and however it's been, however long it's been

912
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: since I had you on, so many other conspiracies have

913
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: popped up, many like what the fo we're talking about

914
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: right now? Have you been approached by anyone.

915
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: To shut up?

916
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: To hey, take it easy, guys, you're walking on something

917
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: ice here. I wish they're just watching you.

918
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 7: Not like a men in black situation.

919
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 6: But I remember there are a couple of things where

920
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 6: we've had very politely worded diplomatic emails, like we did

921
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 6: an episode on something called shot Spotter, and shot Spotter

922
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 6: is is a system. It's definitely in New York, It's

923
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 6: in every major US city. It's a system that uses

924
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 6: you could call it echolocation to figure out when a

925
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 6: where a bullet is fired and sometimes to what degree

926
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 6: it's fired.

927
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: And uses it to measure demographics of crime and right

928
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 3: label areas as high crime.

929
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 7: And then sell that data.

930
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 6: Yes, and turns out their legal teams a little bit touchy.

931
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: It turns the product don't quite work as advertised. That's

932
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: what we were saying and I think we did get

933
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: an email, not a cease and desist per se, but

934
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 3: strongly worded email from someone from within the company.

935
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: Was it actually from someone with the company, because now

936
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: everyone's chat GPT in fake lawyers and that's kind of

937
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: funny to me.

938
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 6: Oh this was a little bit. Oh, this was a

939
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 6: little bit before chat GPT. I think it was so

940
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 6: that one was a real guy and then the only

941
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 6: other one I can think of, Scientology surprisingly hasn't reached

942
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 6: out yet, but we got.

943
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 3: Not even weird enough to rank anymore.

944
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: I don't think based on everything else, like Scientology is

945
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 2: so far down the list.

946
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 6: Vacation, who was it? There was oh you know what.

947
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 6: Weirdly enough, Peta Peter.

948
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: Reached out to the terrorist organization man.

949
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 6: And they were very nice about it, and then they

950
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 6: started mailing us things.

951
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: Like horrible visuals.

952
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: That's great, I love puppies and kiddies. But then they

953
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 3: started just know they.

954
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: Are a terrorist organization. I am on board with half

955
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: of the stuff that they do, and then the other

956
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: half I'm like, okay, so you released all the minks

957
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: to wear.

958
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 7: Why would you do that?

959
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: But also like in my heart.

960
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 3: I'm like I want to release.

961
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: I want to do that too, but then they all

962
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: get run over in the street because they don't know

963
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: what they're doing. It's it's an interesting organization, that's Peter.

964
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 6: Have you ever had if we could flip the script

965
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 6: here on the other side of the table, because you

966
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 6: have explored so many things and met so many people,

967
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 6: you have so much experience, so many connections. Have you

968
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 6: ever run into something where you got one of those letters?

969
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: I wish No, Maybe today's the day we'll find out.

970
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: The only thing that ever really happens with us is,

971
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: you know, every now and then we'll have a celebrity

972
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: and the interview will go really well, and then that

973
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: celebrities team will circle back later and say, hey, we

974
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: need to cut this, this, this and this, and that

975
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: infuriates me adam Levine. But aside from that, no, not.

976
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: Really, Okay, apparently.

977
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: Everyone had an experience with that am Levine.

978
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: And let me tell you, I really enjoyed him.

979
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: When he was in I was like, this is great. Yeah,

980
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: And then I got.

981
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: I even got feedback from his team like this was

982
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: his favorite interview of the day, he loved it so much,

983
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: thank you so much. And then like fast forward, I

984
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: was getting these like death threat even not quite that,

985
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: but but it was very inane. The stuff they wanted

986
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: taken out was so like nothing sauce that I thought, what,

987
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: that's so weird.

988
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 6: Sometimes it feels like at least we probably had similar experiences.

989
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 6: But sometimes it feels like members of the team are

990
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 6: kind of justifying why they're on the team with a

991
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 6: few of the over worried things.

992
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: It's usually the team, not the person to hear the case. Usually, Okay,

993
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure that there are some people who

994
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 2: are hardcore. Don't photograph me from the side. I don't

995
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: want to stand near a woman. We do know for

996
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: a fact that those people exist Martha Stewart. But aside

997
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: from that, no, not really. Oh man, I haven't been

998
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: approached as far as you know, Hey, that stuff you're

999
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: saying about the government stuff.

1000
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: Even though how's people are about to Let.

1001
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: Me tell you, I love Martha Stewart for everything that

1002
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: she did and she was and she was a bad

1003
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: bitch back in the day.

1004
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean she still is.

1005
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: She is.

1006
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: She's wonderful. She's such a strong woman.

1007
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: I love it.

1008
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: She's mean as fuck. Man, She's like, I mean.

1009
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 6: She's about that business from what I hear, and I yeah,

1010
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 6: I think you become a larger than life figure after

1011
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 6: a certain amount of time in the cultural spotlight, So

1012
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 6: maybe that does have an influence on how you behave.

1013
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: Doesn't that seem like it's a bummer?

1014
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: It is. It's like you're not even In her documentary,

1015
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: they basically said she went to jail, not for anything

1016
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: that she actually did, but she went to jail because

1017
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: she was a big old bitch and people wanted to

1018
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: see her go to jail because she was a powerful

1019
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: woman and they didn't like the way she operated. So

1020
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: I get angry with myself for being like, yeah, she

1021
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: is a big old bitch.

1022
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she mean she shouldn't have gone to jail

1023
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: for it.

1024
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 3: Mean, but also yeah, degree.

1025
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: If you asked to pet her dog, she'd be like no, what.

1026
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: I feel like, that's that's who she is.

1027
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 6: This is like I can compare it to when I

1028
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 6: finally figured out that Bill Nye is sort of famously

1029
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 6: a pill.

1030
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: I love it.

1031
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 3: The science guy.

1032
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 6: Guy, yeah, way, yeah, apparently he is not the pleasant

1033
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 6: Oh let's learn about hydrogen guy that I thought he

1034
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 6: at Okay, no, because I don't respect him anymore.

1035
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: I want to hear why because we had Bill Nye

1036
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: in here, We've had him in a couple of times.

1037
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I adore him.

1038
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 7: I've never met I love it.

1039
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: But I can absolutely see like he just doesn't suffer fools.

1040
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: He's a scientist, and he is surrounded by a world

1041
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: right now that is sort of shunning things that he

1042
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: has been trying his whole life to make us think about.

1043
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 2: And I think that he just you ask him, I'm question,

1044
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: and he'll just look at you and be like that

1045
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 2: was incredibly dumb.

1046
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: Doesn't He also kind of do a bit though on

1047
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 3: his show, like isn't he sort of this goofy like

1048
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 3: caricature kind of version of himself.

1049
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 7: When he came up, Yeah, becau the kids show.

1050
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be a dick on a kids show.

1051
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 2: But now that he's an adult and all these kids

1052
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: have grown up, and now you have, like, you know,

1053
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: the essential oil moms over here saying science isn't real,

1054
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: but I can give you this lavender oil and everything

1055
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: will be fine. Of course, the Bill Nys of the

1056
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: world are going to be like, go fuck yourself.

1057
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 3: I guess it has mean comparatively to the Kid show persona.

1058
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's because it's a it's a different Yeah, it's

1059
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 6: a different show, right, Like, but I also think it's

1060
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 6: important for us to note folks at that level, the

1061
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 6: Martha Stewart's, the Bill nyes, et cetera. Uh, they have

1062
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 6: to answer the same question, sure, like constantly. So I'm

1063
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 6: sure your nerves start to free. But I'm sure they

1064
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 6: are both completely human and not lizard people.

1065
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: Okay, that is a good pivot, diamond. Where are we

1066
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: at time?

1067
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: By the way, Wow.

1068
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: We could keep going. Okay, so on the lizard people,

1069
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: and then we'll wrap up this episode and we'll start

1070
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: the next episode. Yeah, the lizard people, you guys say, no,

1071
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: they don't exist, And let's explain what.

1072
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: People are to find some terms here are we talking

1073
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: specifically about like the plot of the movie Bogonia, Like

1074
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 3: are we talking about the Andromedam.

1075
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: That movie was so good at the end of it

1076
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: pissed me off so bad, pissed me off so bad,

1077
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: damn it. There was such good commentary here on society.

1078
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: And then we could have a separate discussion about how

1079
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 3: maybe I think the ending sport perfect.

1080
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 6: The mini series V from way back in the day

1081
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 6: also will.

1082
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 3: Be for Vendetta V. It was like a sci fi

1083
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 3: literally lizard people invasion Body Snatchers kind of. They remade

1084
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: it in the night late nineties or two thousands, there

1085
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: is a remakey you're talking about the eighties V.

1086
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 7: I'm talking about the eighties V.

1087
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 3: The very weird with the o GV.

1088
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 6: It's the idea of lizard people, defined as a secret

1089
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 6: hybrid race of reptilian aliens and certain bloodlines of humanity

1090
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 6: have conspired in secret to control every aspect of human

1091
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 6: civilization for insert reason here, right, Because it changes every week. Right,

1092
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 6: It's like sometimes it's because they want all the money. No,

1093
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 6: it's because they want to sacrifice babies.

1094
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: No, it's so it's we're an experiment, Like we're like

1095
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 3: a human zoom kind of Charlie's Own plot.

1096
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's very That conspiracy theory is very like four

1097
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 6: thirty PM on a Friday at the writer's room.

1098
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 7: Okay, energy, They're like.

1099
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 6: Okay, guys, we all want to get out of here, right,

1100
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 6: I know that, So let's just figure out toss something out,

1101
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 6: toss them out, and somebody's like experiment.

1102
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 7: It's like great, cool, We're done for this week. That's

1103
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 7: you know, that's dinner.

1104
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: Everybody're walking out the door. Someone says lizard people and

1105
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: they'll turn around slowly and go ve just good enough

1106
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 3: to work.

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00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: So I, like I said earlier, there's nothing now that

1108
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: if you toss it out, I'm going to immediately shut

1109
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: it down. I'm going to leave a little space for

1110
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: all of it because I have no idea anymore what

1111
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: is real what is not real? And now when you

1112
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: add AI into the mix, whether it's videos or I

1113
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: saw an AI video of myself what and I was.

1114
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: Like, what did I do that?

1115
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: I didn't do that? Did I do that? That looks

1116
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: so real?

1117
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 4: Oh?

1118
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: I have six fingers. Okay, I'm okay, I didn't.

1119
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I can't even trust myself my own

1120
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 2: memory anymore, because you know, you party a little bit

1121
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: every now and then.

1122
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 3: Things before. I've been noticing people using AI just to

1123
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: recreate actual clips from late night shows or news shows.

1124
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a way of getting around

1125
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 3: copyright claims or something, but I'm looking at this thing.

1126
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: It's like meant to be a clip of Matthew McConaughey

1127
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 3: being interviewed by Conan or whatever. And Conan doesn't have

1128
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 3: a talk show anymore. But you know what I mean, right,

1129
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 3: And I can see the AI of it, and I'm like,

1130
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: why this isn't They're not making this up. This is

1131
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: the gist of what the clip was supposed to be.

1132
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: Why are they doing as.

1133
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: We slowly kill the environment making people kiss?

1134
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: What was the recipes?

1135
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 7: I'm so curious. What was the AI clip of you?

1136
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: Oh? It was me making out with which I then

1137
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 2: got the same program and made other people make out

1138
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: because I was so fascinated by it.

1139
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: We went out one night we part.

1140
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 3: Got specific AI.

1141
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: No, it's just it's I think it's Brock Grock whatever

1142
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: the video aspect of Icy one, Yeah, Spicy Rock after

1143
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: Dog exactly. We were out, we had a really good

1144
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: time and I definitely got hammered. And then like a

1145
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 2: week later, my friend sends me the video and he said,

1146
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: do you even remember this? And I said I do not.

1147
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh my god, I cannot believe this.

1148
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: And then I was like, you, my jawline looks a

1149
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: little too nice and my skin is so swooth. Something

1150
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: about this is weird. Okay, that's not real.

1151
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 3: It looked like shaky cell phone video kind of Yes, yeah,

1152
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: it was wild.

1153
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, so a not this was

1154
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: not the time for her to get involved in everything,

1155
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: But here we are, or maybe it was the perfect time.

1156
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you know, are we at the stage

1157
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 6: where it's just like roll the dice? Because I think

1158
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 6: we all remember during the pandemic lockdown where the news

1159
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 6: came out the government basically said we're not saying a

1160
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 6: but maybe aliens and everybody just sort of collectively shrugged,

1161
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 6: fun with that, right, And so that's where we're at.

1162
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 6: You know, we call it sometimes on the show, like

1163
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 6: a post truth environment. I used to entirely dismiss the

1164
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 6: idea of like a reptilian secret race because it seems

1165
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 6: so difficult to cover it up at such a tall milkshake.

1166
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 6: But just like you, at this point, I think the

1167
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 6: three of us on our show kind of look at

1168
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 6: each other and go, you know, not just elaborate pain sigh.

1169
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 3: Well, let's say that, like tomorrow, we were to discover

1170
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 3: time travel, right, it would be like, well, yesterday we

1171
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 3: didn't think time travel was real, And like, I feel

1172
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 3: like some of the disclosure stuff is on the same

1173
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 3: you know track as that where we definitely have acknowledgment

1174
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 3: that there is something, and so what else can we

1175
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 3: call into question?

1176
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, that's a great point because now I

1177
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 6: advanced the question even further. For the uh, For most people,

1178
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 6: we dismiss the ancient alien hybrid race thing entirely. But

1179
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 6: how long can we do that? Especially given genomic technology

1180
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 6: or genetic technology. We're closer and closer to just making

1181
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 6: that reel. So fuck if it was real before, now

1182
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 6: we can really do it. You know, like chatch Ebt.

1183
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 6: We basically built a gin right and we let it

1184
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 6: out of the bottle sky at the very least, sky

1185
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 6: net at the very least.

1186
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 3: We don't need lizard people. We got plenty.

1187
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: We have the people on the board of the Kennedy

1188
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: Center for Arts.

1189
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it'd be interesting to hear what they think about that.

1190
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 6: I'm sure hopefully like one of them is cool.

1191
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: Hopefully fingers crossed.

1192
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 7: Fingers crossed.

1193
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that's a soft no.

1194
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 6: It probably depends on what we asked them about black people.

1195
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts?

1196
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 7: Thanks so much for coming on the show. You might

1197
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 7: have heard I don't like small.

1198
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 2: Talk exactly all right, So we have to wrap it

1199
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 2: up just for this episode, because it's been about an

1200
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 2: hour and that is the max that we can talk

1201
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 2: about things before people stop listening. So I have no

1202
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: doubt that they're going to want to listen.

1203
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 3: To seeing the stats more.

1204
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, more of this on the next episode. So if

1205
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: you guys don't mind sticking around for another one.

1206
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: I would love that absolutely.

1207
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: Thank you, Ben and nol from the stuff they don't

1208
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: want you to know? Podcasts, where can they find that?

1209
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 6: You can find it anywhere you find your favorite shows

1210
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 6: like Sauce on the Side, just good. Thee to the public,

1211
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 6: the podcasting platform, Public.

1212
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 3: Library, Public Archived. We're in the Library of Congress. We're

1213
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 3: in all the places now, just kidding. Yeah, Spotify, Apple Podcasts,

1214
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app of Horse. We're on Netflix now. Yeah,

1215
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: week think episodes a week on Netflix.

1216
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're superstars. This is incredible. I'm gonna go watch it.

1217
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 3: It's pretty neat, fun little camera setups. We've all got

1218
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: a little.

1219
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,479
Speaker 2: Sets so fun.

1220
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 6: Consistently trying to impress our girlfriends with like that one fact,

1221
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 6: at least we never alert they're not impression yet.

1222
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, these guys just talking again, all right,

1223
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 2: And that's.

1224
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: How my boyfriend is too.

1225
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: He's like, here she goes Jesus Christy.

1226
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: Oh lord, He'll.

1227
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: Just go start golfing. He's like, I'll be back in

1228
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: eighteen holes.

1229
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: You have fun.

1230
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: If people want to find you on Instagram, where will

1231
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: they find you?

1232
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm at a how now Noel Brown?

1233
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 6: Okay, and you can call you can find me in

1234
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 6: a burst of creativity calling myself at ben Bullet.

1235
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 3: Okay, lock that one down though, Bro, you got it.

1236
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: You need to get that.

1237
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you have it all right, and we

1238
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: will see you guys next week. Okay.

1239
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: Diamond, you sat through.

1240
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: All of that, Yes, very entertained. And who were you?

1241
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 3: Yes?

1242
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 2: Okay, I couldn't tell him. Like she's in the corner.

1243
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 2: She's kind of quiet. I know you chimed in a

1244
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: few times, which if the mic sounds different, by the way,

1245
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: let me tell you what happened. I was adjusting something

1246
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: and I unplugged Diamond's microphone and did not plug it

1247
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: back in. So when she approached the microphone to ask

1248
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: the questions, obviously she was there and we're all talking

1249
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: to her, but you couldn't hear it. So that's why

1250
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 2: we just added her questions in and maybe it sounds

1251
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: a little different. Fun fact, that's actually you should have

1252
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: just left it out, just make people guess. Maybe we'll

1253
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: have two different versions, the one with Diamond and the

1254
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 2: one with al but either way, Yeah, there's there's more

1255
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: on the way of other stuff that we talk about

1256
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: in the next episode with Noel and Ben and Diamond.

1257
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: I love you so much for sitting.

1258
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: Through it and being entertained by it. Oh you're welcome.

1259
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: I love you too. Oh you didn't say thank you.

1260
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: I said I love you. Oh, well, thank you and

1261
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: I love you. And also you're my gauge a lot

1262
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: of times on whether something's interesting or not because I

1263
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: can hear and see your reactions sort of quietly off

1264
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: in the corner. So I'm like, oh, she laughed, like

1265
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: an actual laugh, and I wish she had a microphone

1266
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: for that, but no, she's always laughing in the corner quiet.

1267
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: Oh God.

1268
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: Fine, if people want to find you online, Diamond, where

1269
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: they going to find you at? Diamond?

1270
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 4: Sincere on Instagram, you're still threading, Yeah, but I don't

1271
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 4: get engagement and I'm not gonna like force my threads

1272
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 4: on people.

1273
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: So I'm just like I'm here, but whatever, I know,

1274
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: I don't even pay attention to the engagement anymore because

1275
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 2: it's so all over the fucking board anymore, like all

1276
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: over the map. And I'm pretty sure that Adam Wasseri

1277
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: is out to get us all and just punish everybody

1278
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 2: who doesn't, you know, boost posts and pay for things.

1279
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: You know who he's not punishing.

1280
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 4: Oh my sister, every thread, everything she posts, whether it

1281
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 4: makes sense or not, she gets so much engagement.

1282
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: Really okay, yeah.

1283
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: You must have pissed off the overlords at some moment.

1284
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: Whatever, I better have it. And there you go, all

1285
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: right at Diamond. Since here I am at Baby Hot Sauce.

1286
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: If I'm not Shadow Band still, which let's be honest,

1287
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 2: I am. Come follow also like subscribe, follow the podcast,

1288
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 2: leave us a review, and leave us a talkback, because

1289
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 2: we do really love those talkbacks, and we do episodes,

1290
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 2: as you know if you listen of just talkbacks sometimes,

1291
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: so thank you for listening. We'll be back with Ben

1292
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 2: and Nowel next week.