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Speaker 1: Wait Well with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia
Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, November seven, twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: Season thirteen, episode number seventy. Welcome to another edition of
Speaker 1: The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at
Speaker 1: the Star. It's gonna be a good day today. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have a big picture look at the NFL. It's
Speaker 1: the mid season Cowboys that finished half their games, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you guys an idea of what we
Speaker 1: think across the board, just looking at the team in
Speaker 1: a big picture way, what we think about different players,
Speaker 1: different parts of the team, and hopefully set you guys
Speaker 1: up for what will be an entertaining I'm sure second
Speaker 1: half of the season. How's everybody doing good? Awesome, awesome?
Speaker 1: It's getting ready for tonight? Just getting ready for tonight. Oh,
Speaker 1: I know I know where you're going with that. You're
Speaker 1: gonna watch it live or I don't know, no, no,
Speaker 1: not live, not live. He's talking about you know, two
Speaker 1: years ago. On a year and a half ago, Kent
Speaker 1: Garrison actually said, do you know they're coming out with
Speaker 1: a Rick Flair thirty for thirty And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: they're not. It's like, yeah, they are, and they've been
Speaker 1: the hell out of it. Oh my god. I mean
Speaker 1: when you do that, when you gotta promote it, because
Speaker 1: it's it's almost like ESPN screaming like we we cover
Speaker 1: wrestling too, Like you know, you don't have to watch
Speaker 1: Monday Night Raw, you can watch us. That's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: The amazing part about it is that people that have
Speaker 1: been watching wrestling for a long time, they're watching this
Speaker 1: thing because Rick Flair. I mean, like that's wrestling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were kids, definitely that was wrestling. You know, I
Speaker 1: have three of those little wrestling figures up on my
Speaker 1: desk up in my office. He's one of them or
Speaker 1: the other two, uh sting, which you know he's a
Speaker 1: fan of of the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah show yeah. And
Speaker 1: then of course the all time greatest Randy matchamat Savage
Speaker 1: for a minute, am I cooking. Let me take a
Speaker 1: look at this. Huh, very coy. A lot of charisma,
Speaker 1: the most well knowing, the best looking, the best dress,
Speaker 1: custom made, the longest drop of all time. Role I
Speaker 1: watch ramas. Can you tell kens excited? He's excited, But
Speaker 1: he cannot be the most excited on our staff about this.
Speaker 1: I would think it has to be Rob, right. Rob's
Speaker 1: probably the biggest wrestling fan in our group. Right, Rob's
Speaker 1: the biggest. No, He's one of the biggest wrestling fans
Speaker 1: I've ever met in my life. Yeah, right, like not
Speaker 1: our group. I mean you just be like in the world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: WrestleMania nineteen, he'd be like Toronto Triple H against the
Speaker 1: Rock loser leaves Town match or something whatever. Yeah, all
Speaker 1: of us today, Okay, all right, let's get back barrass anyone.
Speaker 1: But does everyone know Rick Flair? No? I never would
Speaker 1: have guessed that we would start this show off with
Speaker 1: with Rick Flair. Pro wrestling. Yeah, but hey works, Hey,
Speaker 1: most pro wrestlers used to be football players. So they're
Speaker 1: talking a lot talking. Actually had sting on last year.
Speaker 1: Let's oh yeah, when he was here, he was on
Speaker 1: talking Cowboys. Look that up? Yeah, look that up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, let's get into let's talk some
Speaker 1: Cowboys we've got. You look at the NFC East right now,
Speaker 1: Cowboys are sitting in second place. They are at the
Speaker 1: moment a wildcard team. You got the Philadelphia Eagles in
Speaker 1: first place at eight and one. They'll have a bye
Speaker 1: this week. Cowboys are at five and three, will go
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. Washington at four and four plays Minnesota. That'll
Speaker 1: be a tough game. Minnesota now at six and two
Speaker 1: and leading their division. And then of course the Giants,
Speaker 1: they're one and seven and they'll be facing the OE
Speaker 1: nine San Francisco forty nine. Is that should be fun?
Speaker 1: That's my steam. Somebody will be watching that, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: All right. So here's the interesting part though, when you
Speaker 1: start looking at the wildcard race and some of the
Speaker 1: teams that are involved there. Right now, Carolina is the
Speaker 1: other wild card team at six and three. But listen
Speaker 1: to these other teams that are kind of in that
Speaker 1: mixed with the Cowboys and the and the Panthers. You
Speaker 1: got Seattle at five and three, got Atlanta at four
Speaker 1: and four, Washington and Arizona at four and four, Detroit
Speaker 1: at four and four, and Green Bay at four and four.
Speaker 1: And the best part about that for the Cowboys is
Speaker 1: there's only one team in that mix that has a
Speaker 1: head to head tie break over them, and it's the
Speaker 1: one that's going the opposite way, which is Green Bay
Speaker 1: at four and four. The rest of these teams either
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have already beaten them or the Cowboys play
Speaker 1: them at some point this season. So everything sits right
Speaker 1: in front of the Cowboys. Here's the question for you guys.
Speaker 1: Who scares you? You You look around the NFC right now.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is obviously out of the mix. Who scares
Speaker 1: you in the NFC at this point? That's second circuit
Speaker 1: cord or something like that. Yeah, that's that's the scariest
Speaker 1: thing you gotta face. Three judge three judge panel in
Speaker 1: New York is pretty scary. Yeah, that that right there.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to funny. That's it's true. That
Speaker 1: is true. I mean because we feel like with Zeke
Speaker 1: and they can they can compete with it. I mean
Speaker 1: they can beat anyone handily. Really, um Dick can compete
Speaker 1: with anyone for sure on any place. And and we
Speaker 1: know that this league now is and I said to
Speaker 1: the other day, it's it's becoming a sixty forty league
Speaker 1: for fans. So you got to go on the road
Speaker 1: and win, but you'll have fans there at home. You
Speaker 1: got to deal with it, you know. I mean Dak's
Speaker 1: trying to like quiet the crowd and like that only
Speaker 1: down in that chief's end zone. Like that didn't help,
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm just saying this team has a
Speaker 1: chance to win with Zeke, but with who scares you?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll let Dave answer that. Who's who
Speaker 1: scares this team? Well, our listeners have let me know
Speaker 1: how much they don't appreciate how much I respect Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: which so he's not an option. So if teams that
Speaker 1: have just like next level Hall of Fame caliber quarterback
Speaker 1: player are always going to worry me, Like that's the
Speaker 1: great equalizer, which so gods are one in seven day,
Speaker 1: I know that there's another team though there's another team,
Speaker 1: which honestly I don't. Oh, I don't so this point
Speaker 1: believe that they're as good as that six game winning
Speaker 1: streak indicates. But the Saints are rolling, and when they are,
Speaker 1: that Superdome is a tough place to play. Is he
Speaker 1: the only quarterback that's that's in the NFC, that's kind
Speaker 1: of in the hunt right now, that is better than
Speaker 1: Dack definitively, Yes, I mean, I mean there are other guys.
Speaker 1: You would say it's right there with Zak, and you
Speaker 1: can kind of Carson Carson Wentz is playing better than
Speaker 1: Dak because he's doing it there. Their success is a
Speaker 1: lot of because of him. Cowboy success is a lot
Speaker 1: of him and Zeke. But this, this goes back to
Speaker 1: the conversation we had two or three weeks ago, which
Speaker 1: Breeze is probably the only guy in the NFC that
Speaker 1: is inarguably a better quarterback than Dak. I think Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson probably deserves getting there. He deserves some credit there.
Speaker 1: And if you just want to talk resume, then you
Speaker 1: gotta throw Eli in there. And but he's not in
Speaker 1: the mixing right No, Yeah, but I mean he's about
Speaker 1: his out of it as Rogers Breeze. Bree he's in
Speaker 1: RUSS I think, or unless I'm just really forgetting that.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy that's taking his team to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. We had this conversation though, like he's
Speaker 1: Doctor Jekyl and mister High. Yes he can be now
Speaker 1: old song, Oh, But who's who says that though? Is
Speaker 1: it Teddy Riley? I think it's Teddy Riley. Matt Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: and Matt Stafford are probably on that list too, honestly.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're just talking about playing the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: What they've done and what they can do. You can
Speaker 1: say that they're better than Dak right now, but I
Speaker 1: mean Dak is trending that way, and I'm certainly I'm
Speaker 1: not willing to concede on the Dak Wentz argument anytime soon.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna be fascinating but also annoying for
Speaker 1: like the next decade. It's that debate quarterbacks. It's kind
Speaker 1: of funny when you when you have one that you
Speaker 1: really like, you might argue, Okay, this guy's better, his
Speaker 1: resume is better, or he's playing better, but you're not
Speaker 1: trading anyone for him like you wouldn't. There's no one
Speaker 1: that's the end exactly. That's a trade for Dak talking
Speaker 1: about for a game a season, for a season. That's
Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of my I mean, the only thing,
Speaker 1: the only one that came to my mind was Stafford
Speaker 1: because I think he's in the prime of his career.
Speaker 1: And I think he is right now, of all those
Speaker 1: guys you mentioned, I think he's probably he's right up
Speaker 1: there with the way he plays and how much has
Speaker 1: heaped on him to be able to get his team
Speaker 1: to win. Yeah, I think he's up there with those
Speaker 1: those Yeah, you're right. I probably would trade for Stafford
Speaker 1: two for one. And I'm not saying I would. That
Speaker 1: just gave me pause, Like that's the guy I think
Speaker 1: about it. You're right, he does a lot with less
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's like, oh, there's up doing
Speaker 1: it back there fumbling the ball in my fantasy game
Speaker 1: away and umtually one lesson the guy that was I
Speaker 1: was playing against was ahead of me and then he fumbled.
Speaker 1: You're talking about your fantasy game right now. Absolutely am
Speaker 1: and awful. Radio. I don't care what you have to
Speaker 1: say about that, Mara. Yes, I would ask y'all to
Speaker 1: do that. I didn't ask y'all to do either. We
Speaker 1: talk about her lives day, We do talk about our
Speaker 1: lives fantasy football and can be. I don't think they do.
Speaker 1: They absolutely do. You know, it's it's a big deal
Speaker 1: for them mud hounds and mad dogs. What the mudhounds?
Speaker 1: What a mad dog about your awful fantasy team, the
Speaker 1: mad Dogs, mad Hounds dog whatever they are, what is
Speaker 1: it mad hounds? Excuse me, the mud hounds, the mud
Speaker 1: mad Dogs. We were right there. We were close. The
Speaker 1: winning is team in all football. That's your fantasy team
Speaker 1: doing that's a thing. This morning is just gonna responsible today,
Speaker 1: one and done. She played last year, Yeah, last year.
Speaker 1: It's too stressful. Yeah, it's because we did an auction league.
Speaker 1: I'll never do that again. That ever, that sucks. Ever.
Speaker 1: All right, here's what we're gonna do. I want to
Speaker 1: because it's the midway point of the season. I have
Speaker 1: some questions for you guys. We're gonna do like a
Speaker 1: mid season recap, and these questions again, are gonna be
Speaker 1: big picture questions about this team. And I want each
Speaker 1: you guys are going to go around the table. You guys,
Speaker 1: each give me an answer. Feel free. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you options, but feel free to throw in another option
Speaker 1: if you choose, if you think there's a better option
Speaker 1: out there that I missed. All right, so' gonna start
Speaker 1: the first question. Defensive player who has had the biggest
Speaker 1: impact de Marcus Lawrence shan Lee or David Irvy you
Speaker 1: want me to say de Marcus Lawrence, No, I don't
Speaker 1: the answer. The answer Sean there you go. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: answer is Shaun, which is on this side of the table. Yeah,
Speaker 1: am Er, what do you think you agree with that? Well?
Speaker 1: I think Sean Lee, Yeah, you've it's been super noticeable
Speaker 1: the impact that he can make in this defense, especially
Speaker 1: you know when he's not there, you see how much
Speaker 1: that affects the team. But at the same time, I
Speaker 1: would say de Marcus Lawrence, he came this season, he
Speaker 1: came in doing so well that I think it just
Speaker 1: feeds off everyone else on the line and it helps
Speaker 1: everyone everyone, you know, play better. And I think he
Speaker 1: was a great impact. He's been great as well, No
Speaker 1: doubt you can make an impact for all three because
Speaker 1: David this defense is now take it to the next level.
Speaker 1: Since he's gotten here, he's got what six sacks in
Speaker 1: what three four d four four games? Yeah, he's on
Speaker 1: pace for like eighteen or something like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's that's amazing. And then you know DeMarcus has done
Speaker 1: and he's I don't think he's leading the league anymore
Speaker 1: in sacks, but I mean he's right there. He's only
Speaker 1: half off Yeah, he's he's right there. He's played outstanding.
Speaker 1: I can't believe he couldn't get eight straight to start
Speaker 1: the season. At his first game with no sacks came
Speaker 1: after Halloween like that. Just it's remarkable when you put
Speaker 1: it in that perspective. But I really am at the
Speaker 1: point they would have won at least one of those games,
Speaker 1: Rams or Packers. They would have won at least one
Speaker 1: if Shanley had been on the field. I really do
Speaker 1: believe that. Definitely agree with you, I really do. I
Speaker 1: mean just probably probably the Rams game. Probably the Rams,
Speaker 1: but one way or the other, I really think that
Speaker 1: would have made I mean, you're talking about razor thin
Speaker 1: margin of error. Like if he makes three plays, I
Speaker 1: mean he sniffs out a screen to Kareem Hunt that
Speaker 1: might have gone for a seventy yard touchdown, and he
Speaker 1: had at least one tackle for loss on Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: two on one of those care I mean, those players
Speaker 1: make difference. That's the difference between Todd Gurley splitting the
Speaker 1: defense going fifty three yards for a touchdown. Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: is his name, Aaron Jones the Packers. I just don't
Speaker 1: see one hundred and fifteen yards out of him. With
Speaker 1: Sean Lee out there, I mean, I just don't. I
Speaker 1: just think he'll stop the drive earlier, they'll sniff that
Speaker 1: stuff out. And but yeah, so to me, the answer
Speaker 1: is Sean Lee. But those other two guys are really good.
Speaker 1: It really illuminates how much injuries just matters so much
Speaker 1: just one guy. Because even think about this, like you
Speaker 1: take you take right now, Aaron Rodgers obviously out that
Speaker 1: team would have been right up there at the top
Speaker 1: of the NFC in my opinion, and right now they
Speaker 1: are going the other way, and they're the way they
Speaker 1: look last night. It's hard for me to fathom them
Speaker 1: even making the playoffs. There I'm I'm stealing. I'm stealing
Speaker 1: this line from r. J o'choa, who's one of the
Speaker 1: you know cowboys. He covers the Cowboys. He does really
Speaker 1: good job of it, for whatever that's worth, but he
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen Packers are the twenty fifteen Cowboys. Like
Speaker 1: watching that team last and just trying to make it
Speaker 1: work with less than great quarterback play. You've got some
Speaker 1: playmakers on defense who are trying to make it work.
Speaker 1: But I mean, it's not like they got their doors
Speaker 1: blown off in that game last night. But you just
Speaker 1: you gotta have quarterback play in this league. You have
Speaker 1: to ye, all right. Next question, who was or will
Speaker 1: be missed more David Irving during the first four games
Speaker 1: of the season or Brian Price during the rest of
Speaker 1: the season. I think it. I think Brian Price has
Speaker 1: been playing well and they are thin at one tech,
Speaker 1: and you know, depending on what they do here, that
Speaker 1: could be something that matters. But I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: ready to give him that kind of status just yet
Speaker 1: to where you know, I don't know that it's going
Speaker 1: to drastically change what the defense looks like without him.
Speaker 1: They signed Nick Haden yet, Is Nick Hayden still around?
Speaker 1: Is he available? I do wonder about that though, I mean,
Speaker 1: logic I don't know if he's around. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Logic says you would sign Lewis Neil because he's not
Speaker 1: a one time I know that's but you carried him
Speaker 1: on your practice squad, you liked him enough to keep
Speaker 1: him around. You almost put him on your fifty three.
Speaker 1: And these guys always tend to favor their guys more
Speaker 1: than somebody else's guy. But he really doesn't fit what
Speaker 1: they need right right, and That's exactly why I asked
Speaker 1: this question the way that I did. I think conventional
Speaker 1: wisdom would say it's David Irving. But I think when
Speaker 1: you look at the way this team is constructed, and
Speaker 1: you look at what they have on their practice squad,
Speaker 1: Brian Price really was their big body. They don't have
Speaker 1: other big bodies. I actually have Ash now, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the same Like I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't see him as like you look at Brian Price.
Speaker 1: He is just a mean, he's a just a massive
Speaker 1: dude can full of dirt. Yeah, and they don't have
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like even Ash. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: that kind of guy, Like he's not that big. And
Speaker 1: and I just I was actually hoping before this game,
Speaker 1: I was saying I really wanted them to do more
Speaker 1: with keeping Brian Price in there and rotating Malie Collins
Speaker 1: at three technique with David Irving because I thought you
Speaker 1: would get more out of Malie Collins, you know. But
Speaker 1: I think right now, I just I don't like what
Speaker 1: they have left at at the one technique. I don't
Speaker 1: think they have a guy that really these just a
Speaker 1: you know, basically suck up two blockers and consistently be
Speaker 1: able to hold a point of attack like that. Well,
Speaker 1: let me throw this out. Let me rephrase what I
Speaker 1: was trying to say. It's Tuesday morning, and we haven't
Speaker 1: heard anything about workouts, which we probably would have if
Speaker 1: that was normally happen. Yeah, like tuesdays, that off day
Speaker 1: they get into practice tomorrow, this would be the day
Speaker 1: that they'd be working guys out if they were planning
Speaker 1: on signing somebody from outside. And maybe they will, but
Speaker 1: typically we hear about those types of things late Monday night,
Speaker 1: early Tuesday morning, and I haven't heard anything. No, I
Speaker 1: haven't heard anything about a workout. But don't forget that
Speaker 1: they have worked out guys on a regular basis. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure they're keeping track on these, you know,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle or if there was one in the last
Speaker 1: few weeks. So, okay, this guy's good or not. I
Speaker 1: just wonder, and again I could be wrong. Maybe they'll
Speaker 1: work a guy out, maybe they'll just bring a guy in.
Speaker 1: But you've got Irving who can play tackle, You've got
Speaker 1: Tyrone who can move inside. You've still got Malik and
Speaker 1: Ash there. You could call up Neil and I'll say
Speaker 1: it for the million of time, even though they don't
Speaker 1: want to do it. You could also play Taco at
Speaker 1: tackle if you wanted to. So they got the options.
Speaker 1: They don't have that big body. I agree with you,
Speaker 1: But well, they'll keep they'll keep having. The assumption will
Speaker 1: be they'll keep Malik at one technique. He'll still be
Speaker 1: your one technique. Ash will be a guy that rotates
Speaker 1: there with him at one technic. Right, and then you
Speaker 1: can Neil probably gonna if he gets thirty one teams
Speaker 1: out there with the practice squad of ten guys, I
Speaker 1: guarantee there's a big body out there. I would take him.
Speaker 1: Just just just go grab a big body. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got to be on your roster for three weeks, but
Speaker 1: that's okay because Brian Price is going to be you know,
Speaker 1: on ir. Yeah, I'd be interested. I mean, Malik has
Speaker 1: been playing one and Ash can play one. Maybe call
Speaker 1: up call up my guy, the LSU guy, and see
Speaker 1: if he dish the past. I mean, I mean Jay
Speaker 1: Ratliffe was an undersized guy too. And I mean I'm
Speaker 1: not to sound, you know, like Lou Holtz here, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, you can't underestimate the guy's heart.
Speaker 1: I mean, he this guy's here. You got it this far,
Speaker 1: and I know that. You can just see him in
Speaker 1: the locker room talking. This is talking about Lewis Neil.
Speaker 1: He's chopping at the bit to get out there. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't mean, who's to say that he won't
Speaker 1: do something? And I get well, and I guess my
Speaker 1: point is you don't have to call him up to
Speaker 1: play one because that's where the injury was. You can
Speaker 1: play him at three and have some other guys. It's
Speaker 1: kind of massage it a little bit, but he can
Speaker 1: do something. All right. We're gonna take our first break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll continue this game. We want
Speaker 1: to talk about the best win, the worst loss, best rookie,
Speaker 1: most disappointing rookie, and of course who's been the MVP.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's the second segment of the Break lot
Speaker 1: from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We
Speaker 1: are going through our midseason review and I'm asking these
Speaker 1: guys questions about the team. Let's get to the questions
Speaker 1: we got. The next question is which was the best win?
Speaker 1: When at Washington with a one thirty three nineteen Week
Speaker 1: eight or the Week nine victory against Kansas City where
Speaker 1: they won twenty eight to seventeen. That's those are the
Speaker 1: only options. You feel free to throw in others if
Speaker 1: you like. Now that's I mean the Chiefs, the chief skin,
Speaker 1: It's it's got to be the Chiefs, you think. I
Speaker 1: think it was the best game they played as a team, offense, defense,
Speaker 1: and special teams. I think it was the best team
Speaker 1: they've beaten to this point, the only one with a
Speaker 1: record above five hundred right now, if I recall correctly,
Speaker 1: Arizona Arizon's four four. Arizona and Washington are both best team,
Speaker 1: they played, best performance just all. I mean, they dominated
Speaker 1: a team that I expect to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So that's yeah, that's the one. Yeah, it's the most
Speaker 1: impressive win. It's probably not the most important, but it
Speaker 1: is the most impressive win. But I'll switch it up,
Speaker 1: but I'll say that the one two weeks ago was
Speaker 1: was a better win. Um not from a surprising standpoint,
Speaker 1: because obviously it picked the Chiefs to win the game,
Speaker 1: and I am surprised. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: beating the Redskins was probably a better win because not
Speaker 1: only is it a division win, it's a conference win
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. That doesn't really affect you as much
Speaker 1: other than win lost records. So I'll just I guess
Speaker 1: would just be different. I mean, I mean more impressed
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs win, but that one going they're winning
Speaker 1: in the rain like that, doing it the way they did,
Speaker 1: the defense, shutting them down like that, playing limiting their
Speaker 1: mistakes in that monsoon, and getting that win, getting a
Speaker 1: defensive touchdown, getting Byron Jones to make play. That's big win.
Speaker 1: And the most important part about that is they went
Speaker 1: on the road to get that means they still got
Speaker 1: to play watching it, but they get them at home
Speaker 1: for the second game. Amber which way do you go?
Speaker 1: They were both great, But I would have to say
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, I thought they would have a good
Speaker 1: battle against the Redskins, but I still had in mind
Speaker 1: that they would be able to beat them. So I'll
Speaker 1: just go with the Chiefs because I definitely didn't expect
Speaker 1: that outcome. Okay, here's a little tougher question. Which was
Speaker 1: the worst loss at Denver where they lost forty two
Speaker 1: to seventeen in week two, playing versus the Rams where
Speaker 1: they won thirty five, I mean they lost thirty five
Speaker 1: to thirty in week four, or playing Green Bay where
Speaker 1: they lost thirty five thirty one in week five. You
Speaker 1: want me to say Denver, I do not want you
Speaker 1: to say Rams, it's the Rams or I mean you
Speaker 1: can throw green Bay in there too, because you have to.
Speaker 1: We're all painful. Has to be the Rams. They they
Speaker 1: lost because of themselves. Yeah, when you lose because of that,
Speaker 1: then that just so. Are you guys not buying into
Speaker 1: the Rams because it does. I get the impression listening
Speaker 1: to you guys talk about the Rams those things where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys should have won. I don't care anything about
Speaker 1: what the Rams have done after that. I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about the sixty minutes that we watched. They were better
Speaker 1: football team. They shouldn't have lost that game. They really
Speaker 1: how Boys were better football to Cowboys were better. They
Speaker 1: shouldn't have lost. They made a mistake there. They let
Speaker 1: Here's here's the difference of how they've grown. They let
Speaker 1: a horrible mistake just kind of change the whole game
Speaker 1: and they couldn't recover from. I'm talking about Switzer's fumble
Speaker 1: this time against the Chiefs, worst mistake. They were able
Speaker 1: to overcome that and not let it snowball, so that
Speaker 1: there's some signs of growth there. But I think there's
Speaker 1: really no excuse for I mean that excuse. The Rams
Speaker 1: are playing well, they're better than we thought, but they
Speaker 1: should have won that particular game. In my opinion, it's
Speaker 1: got Yeah, it's got nothing to do with whether or
Speaker 1: not the Rams are for real. It's got everything to
Speaker 1: do with holding an eleven point lead at home against
Speaker 1: a I mean, going back to that conversation, like, is
Speaker 1: Jared Goff that Aaron Rodgers type of quarterback that you're
Speaker 1: just kind of have to tip your cap. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, at least not yet. They're talented team. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they're they're in the front running to maybe even get
Speaker 1: a buy in the playoffs. But you got a team
Speaker 1: down by multiple possessions at home. You need to win that.
Speaker 1: I mean, going to Denver, one of the toughest home
Speaker 1: field advantages in football, playing against that defense on a
Speaker 1: rainy day. Okay, stuff happens. You lose to Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: with a minute to go. Okay, he's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: But the Rams, that's even if they win the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl this year, I still won't think that will be,
Speaker 1: you know, a justifiable loss. And I'll say this too,
Speaker 1: I would like now Aaron Donald is going to be
Speaker 1: a beast regardless, but I would like to see Jonathan
Speaker 1: Cooper now against him. Um, I think it's gonna be different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Jonathan Cooper is playing much better. I think
Speaker 1: the offensive line is more a cohesive unit. And I
Speaker 1: think I think you would see a better showing there
Speaker 1: than than you saw there. They still score thirty points,
Speaker 1: but I think they would be better there. I mean,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee there. All I know is is they could
Speaker 1: have to might have to play at the Superdome, might
Speaker 1: have to play at all these you know Seattle, they
Speaker 1: have to go to play at the Coliseum against the
Speaker 1: Rams in the playoffs. Like okay, okay, that's fine. Whether
Speaker 1: it'll be great, it'll be half Cowboy fans there. That
Speaker 1: would be of all the destinations they could have in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, that sounds like the most attractive. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: that's not disrespect toward the Ring now, it's just that
Speaker 1: everything he just said as opposed to Minnesota as loud
Speaker 1: as hell. Oh man, the Saints are loud as hell
Speaker 1: and have a Hall of Fame quarterback and there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that Cowboys fans travel and it's close, but
Speaker 1: super Dome off game. No other outdoor stadiums left in
Speaker 1: the NFC that are at the top, like Philly is
Speaker 1: the only one. Philly. Yeah, because I'm thinking this is
Speaker 1: the team what I love about the Cowboys what they
Speaker 1: did against Washington where I think this team, better than
Speaker 1: any of those teams were mentioning, has the ability to
Speaker 1: go into inclement weather and really be able to play
Speaker 1: well much better than their opponent can. And I just
Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna have a lot of those
Speaker 1: opportunities most seasons. But I don't remember exactly what we
Speaker 1: were just talking about, but it was something about home
Speaker 1: field advantage and whatnot. I like this team on the
Speaker 1: road way better than I like. Yeah, just for whatever
Speaker 1: that's worth even though you mumbled it. I agree with you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you whenever it's like a side whenever,
Speaker 1: whenever I feel like I'm saying something that might not
Speaker 1: be popular with management and owner. You think you say
Speaker 1: lower into the microphone. Yeah, exactly, awesome, Yeah, eventually you
Speaker 1: think you can have all No, I don't think when
Speaker 1: the Chromos are playing it at home, they're good. But
Speaker 1: they're a lot better on the road than they are
Speaker 1: at home, in my opinion. Like it all right? Next question,
Speaker 1: who's been the best? Rooca the son? Jordan Lewis, Xavier Woods,
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods, Xavier whatever, Xavier, Xavier whatever. I noticed that
Speaker 1: you say that, But the basketball team that wins games
Speaker 1: is x The word is Xavier, that's how you should
Speaker 1: pronounce it. But Xavier Woods pronounces it xavier and it's
Speaker 1: his name, So I'm gonna, I mean, is that technically
Speaker 1: the correct way to pronounce the word. Probably not, but
Speaker 1: that's what he wants. So okay, feel free? Yeah, wow, Xavier. Okay,
Speaker 1: there you go. Who's been Who's been better? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: that was the question. The question was best rookie shouts
Speaker 1: I'd say Jordan. I'm a big fan. I think we're
Speaker 1: forgetting someone can't no, who no, forgetting one of the rookies.
Speaker 1: He's coming, you'll be in the next question. So let's
Speaker 1: just say with this Woods or Jordan Lewis, big fan
Speaker 1: of Xavier Woods. Jordan Lewis got no training camp, no preseason,
Speaker 1: came in on a moment's notice in week two, and
Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna make the Pro Bowl. But he
Speaker 1: has been solid. He has been really good. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't think I know, he got beat by Josh
Speaker 1: Doxon pretty bad in DC on a but a dropped pass.
Speaker 1: It didn't wind up coming back to bite him. I
Speaker 1: can't think of a lot of other players where he's
Speaker 1: been like noticeably beaten up. And at this point his career,
Speaker 1: did you say the touchdown which one oh Adams? Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I mean, but at one point you see those
Speaker 1: kind of plays, that play doesn't bother me. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think of that as like, oh, this rookie that
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. They should have run the ball, perfect play ball,
Speaker 1: a great catch and he had good coverage. That that happens,
Speaker 1: that's the NFL. He shouldn't have been in that position
Speaker 1: in the first place, and he broke up the first one.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you, that's a fifty fifty kind of situation.
Speaker 1: He got fifty. I mean, I for a guy that
Speaker 1: didn't have a training camp. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: could want more from a third round pick who's starting
Speaker 1: in his rookie season. Yeah, he's been he's been good.
Speaker 1: So Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, everybody, Yeah, all right now most
Speaker 1: disappointing rookie UM Taco Charlton, Ryan Switzer, Chidobe Ewoozia. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna cop right out of this and just say Cheeto
Speaker 1: because he's he's not playing, and I mean it's not
Speaker 1: his fault, but he has He hasn't played since Green
Speaker 1: Bay and he's only played in three out of eight games.
Speaker 1: Cowboys are optimistic he might finally start practicing this week.
Speaker 1: Maybe he can play against Atlanta. But he just I mean,
Speaker 1: he was a top sixty pick. He's the guy. He
Speaker 1: I mean, he was. You thought he would, you know,
Speaker 1: have a prominent role in this defense right away, and
Speaker 1: he just hasn't happened for him. This is a good one.
Speaker 1: You can make a case for all of them. You can, Um,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna Gowitzer hasn't done anything. He hasn't
Speaker 1: done anything positive for the Cowboys. He's he's affected games,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't really affected them in the right way.
Speaker 1: And let me clarify the question when I'm saying disappointment disappointing.
Speaker 1: Disappointing has a lot to do with expectations. So with
Speaker 1: that being sid, who is who's been the most? Like
Speaker 1: when we when training camp started, even the rookie minicamp,
Speaker 1: there was so much hype around Ryan Switzer that you
Speaker 1: expected it to turn out pretty good, you know, once
Speaker 1: he got out there on the field. Now on Taco,
Speaker 1: speaking of Taco, I would give him the advantage of
Speaker 1: just being like, okay, the position, it takes a while
Speaker 1: to learn and to the point she's trying to make.
Speaker 1: The day one talk on Taco was this is gonna
Speaker 1: take some time. He's raw. He's probably not gonna do
Speaker 1: that much. The day one talk on Switzer was like
Speaker 1: dunbar punt returner going to the house seven times, like
Speaker 1: all that. I mean, he was the leading returner in
Speaker 1: college football. I get yeah. I mean I'm going with
Speaker 1: a lot of different voices a day. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is like in a world where Lance dunbar Is at
Speaker 1: Los Angeles ran. The Cowboys needed a new punt returner.
Speaker 1: His name, Ryan Switzer is the newest here you go,
Speaker 1: So I get what ambers I mean, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of hype on Ryan Switzer and not much of
Speaker 1: it has materialized to this point. But he is also
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. And let's not forget he missed
Speaker 1: what two or three weeks ye siderable time, He magnificant time.
Speaker 1: He missed a junk of training camp. No, no, I
Speaker 1: don't want to clarify those words. I'm just saying it was.
Speaker 1: It was a good amount. I mean, for me, the
Speaker 1: thing about Switzer is my expectation was that I didn't
Speaker 1: expect much from the receiver him at receiver. I did
Speaker 1: expect him to immediately come in and give something with
Speaker 1: punt returns. And not only has he not really been
Speaker 1: the guy expected there, he's actually made mistakes there that
Speaker 1: I thought were a little bit and seemingly uncharacteristic of
Speaker 1: a guy who is who is so proficient at returning
Speaker 1: punt and quietly benched quietly, yeah, he was benched. I mean,
Speaker 1: his job is to be the punt returner, and that's
Speaker 1: really what he does. And they're saying that when it
Speaker 1: gets down to the ten yard line, they're gonna put
Speaker 1: a guy that doesn't practice as much as him, that
Speaker 1: had a concussion the week before, and he's gonna make
Speaker 1: him the safe punt returner. That's a problem. So, I
Speaker 1: mean they're basically saying that when it comes to making
Speaker 1: decisions down there, that Beasley is better than Switzer. He
Speaker 1: probably just doesn't do it all the time because Beasley
Speaker 1: actually runs route and play I mean, and it's more
Speaker 1: of a part of the offense switchers out there, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't do it as much. So I still I
Speaker 1: agree with everything y'all just said him. But Cheeto not playing.
Speaker 1: I mean, Chito was supposed to be one of the
Speaker 1: four or five, like, I mean, he was going to
Speaker 1: be a real member of this secondary and it just
Speaker 1: hasn't happened for him. You know. That's the epitome of disappointed,
Speaker 1: but very injuries versus performance. No, sure, but I mean
Speaker 1: he just he just disappointed that you haven't. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: hasn't made an impact on this season whatsoever, which again,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm not it's not his fault. It's
Speaker 1: just a statement of fact and one of the things
Speaker 1: that I think that disappoints me there it with Cheeto specifically,
Speaker 1: is that he actually was out there during training camp
Speaker 1: more than Jordan Lewis. And so if you would have
Speaker 1: told me, okay, by mid season, one of these players
Speaker 1: will still be battling a hamstring injury and the other
Speaker 1: will be out there playing and playing pretty well, it
Speaker 1: would not It would have been the flip, and I
Speaker 1: probably would have been a little less disappointed that Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis wasn't doing it because he was battling this hamstring thing.
Speaker 1: Going back that far, it just kind of flipped. I
Speaker 1: have never been really down on Taco. I really haven't
Speaker 1: either because the expectations right, hey, yeah, I'm okay with
Speaker 1: it with him, I'm in I'm in a weird place.
Speaker 1: I think I said it a couple weeks ago, where
Speaker 1: like I said, the expectations were never high. He was
Speaker 1: always going to be a project. I think it's fair
Speaker 1: to expect a little bit more like when you're talking
Speaker 1: about your first round pick getting seven snaps a game
Speaker 1: and not showing up on the stat sheet, that's problematic.
Speaker 1: But if he I think since he started playing a
Speaker 1: bigger role, since de Monterrey Moore was released. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got a sack, he's he had some pressures in
Speaker 1: San Francisco. His performance since the bye week has been
Speaker 1: on par with about what I wanted. But the first
Speaker 1: five weeks, I would say not so much. And it
Speaker 1: helps that you've got the guy leading the league or
Speaker 1: right up there in sacks and Crawford on the other side.
Speaker 1: If Benson Mayowa was having you know, had one sack
Speaker 1: and was ahead of him, and Ebony's or Ecuban was
Speaker 1: ahead of him, then that's one thing. And I was
Speaker 1: just about to ask you that question, is the success
Speaker 1: of the defensive line? The reason why you're not so
Speaker 1: because you feel like, hey, Taco has time because these
Speaker 1: other guys are playing so well. If they were getting
Speaker 1: very little pressure in very few sacks, I think there'd
Speaker 1: probably be a lot more pressure, like why is this
Speaker 1: rookie that's a first round pick not doing more? And
Speaker 1: I'll say that there's a I don't know what category
Speaker 1: he would go in, but a rookie to be somewhat
Speaker 1: excited about. And I know you don't have to say
Speaker 1: sell this to Dave, but Noah Brown, from from a
Speaker 1: standpoint of he you know, young guy does his job.
Speaker 1: He's already got that NFL body. He's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 1: kind of keep getting better and improving. And I think
Speaker 1: that when you're talking about free agency and next year
Speaker 1: and all that decisions that they've got to make, I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be really happy with Noah Brown and
Speaker 1: getting the playing time that he's getting right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know he was an active this last week, but
Speaker 1: they try to get him active. I mean, if if,
Speaker 1: if they have a chance they make him active and
Speaker 1: he has a little bit of a role by going
Speaker 1: in there and blocking, he'll be Okay. This may be
Speaker 1: a really tough question to ask, but I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: you guys, anyway, is his upside as good as say,
Speaker 1: an undrafted guy like a Miles Austin is. Does he
Speaker 1: have that kind of potential or is he just one
Speaker 1: of those guys that his ceiling is kind of He
Speaker 1: can be a you know, he can be a thirty
Speaker 1: catch a year type guy that really blocks well and
Speaker 1: makes a few big catches for you here and there. Like,
Speaker 1: what is his upside? What what do you think is
Speaker 1: the max for for where he can go? I'm I
Speaker 1: mean I'm not trying to cop out, but I don't
Speaker 1: even know how you answer that. Well. I think Miles Austin,
Speaker 1: though it was a phenomenal athlete like now, it took
Speaker 1: him a while. You know, he had to run a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, routes in the backyard to really
Speaker 1: get to the point where where he is. But but
Speaker 1: you know, I just had to go out to the
Speaker 1: house run some routes. It is true. I wish we had, uh,
Speaker 1: mister Garrett on the talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: That'd be nice. He's watching tape. But I think that
Speaker 1: it's hard to compare that to Miles, because Miles it
Speaker 1: took him at while. He didn't he just kind of
Speaker 1: blew up there in Kansas City that day. And that
Speaker 1: was and I don't did you see that coming now?
Speaker 1: That to me will go down as one of the
Speaker 1: top five games of all time. No, did you see
Speaker 1: Miles Austin coming out the years before that? Did you
Speaker 1: see anything in him that said, man, I think this
Speaker 1: guy really had no if he can ever get over
Speaker 1: the this. A week before that, I was like, this guy,
Speaker 1: get him out of here. The week before it was Denver.
Speaker 1: I guess he didn't play. Well, it's like, what are
Speaker 1: they still doing with this guy? And then he had
Speaker 1: to start a game and then he just had two
Speaker 1: fifty and another dumb we've been and then he was
Speaker 1: off and running off and running for two or three years. Literally,
Speaker 1: we've been I mean, we've been saying that since the
Speaker 1: draft really and it's a good comparison though it's well,
Speaker 1: the well he has that body, right, he's he's got
Speaker 1: He's baby Deaz, That's what I'm trying to say. And
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous for me to say that his ceiling is
Speaker 1: eighty nine catches, eleven hundred yards and sixteen touchdowns, which
Speaker 1: for three or four years there, that's what Dez was
Speaker 1: reeling off. But he's that type of receiver, like he's
Speaker 1: he's not the eighty yard Antonio Brown guy. He's the
Speaker 1: red zone mismatch. And we saw him make some plays
Speaker 1: like that in training camp. We saw him make some
Speaker 1: plays like that in the preseason where I think it
Speaker 1: was the rams where he just shook off a bunch
Speaker 1: of tacklers probably would have gone to the house if
Speaker 1: he hadn't just had a case of the whoopsies fumble. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just randomly fumbled it. But he is a big body
Speaker 1: like he can box defensive backs out, he can go
Speaker 1: up and high point the ball. He's a good blocker like.
Speaker 1: I think he could be a receiver in that des mold.
Speaker 1: Whether he'll ever reach All Pro status, who the hell knows,
Speaker 1: but he has that type of potential to be that
Speaker 1: type of player. We'll take our final break and come back.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about who has been the MVP for this
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Speaker 1: the game. Here the midseason review. Here's our final question
Speaker 1: of the game. Uh, it is the question of who
Speaker 1: has been the MVP for the Cowboys during the first
Speaker 1: half of the season. Here your candidates, Zeke Elliott, Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott to Marcus Lawrence and Sean Lee. Try to think
Speaker 1: about this and don't take the obvious answer. Well, to
Speaker 1: go with Dak. He's the most valuable player. I mean
Speaker 1: I was talking about this earlier this morning. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is the NFL's MVP. There's no doubt about it. You
Speaker 1: can't see what's going on here. He is the MV
Speaker 1: as we saw with Manning years ago when this team
Speaker 1: just fell apart. But they don't. They don't. That's not
Speaker 1: what they want to give it to. It's like who's
Speaker 1: having the best year? I get it, But so thinking
Speaker 1: about that from that standpoint, though, MVP most your bull player, man,
Speaker 1: who's provided the most of this team in the first
Speaker 1: half of us Oh, that's a different question, is it,
Speaker 1: Because if you're talking about who's been most valuable, then
Speaker 1: it's probably the guy that if he's provided the most.
Speaker 1: Take him away and you probably don't win the five
Speaker 1: games you've I would say I'm going with Dad just
Speaker 1: based on the circumstances, like the things he's been able
Speaker 1: to do given the scenario that he's been put in.
Speaker 1: That's the only reason I'm not saying, like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: call it MVP necessarily. But but but you know what,
Speaker 1: you make a good point, and the Cowboys are lucky
Speaker 1: that they haven't had to see that, because when you
Speaker 1: talk about drop off from Morris, I mean from Zeke
Speaker 1: to Morris. We haven't seen it yet, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think they could. They could manage it, and I
Speaker 1: think that I'll be able to manage it. You know,
Speaker 1: with Shawn Lee, they really couldn't manage it. But Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush is one play away, So I think actually the
Speaker 1: answer is Dak. I want to say Zeke, And my
Speaker 1: logic here is like, okay, well, Zeke can be the
Speaker 1: first half MVP, and Dak is about to have a
Speaker 1: chance to make his case probably if Zeke is suspended
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys keep role, and then Dak is going
Speaker 1: to get all of the credit in the world and
Speaker 1: justifiably so m he could in the league if he
Speaker 1: keeps playing this way without Zeke and gets the Cowboys
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. If he's not in consideration, that's a travesty.
Speaker 1: I want to say Zeke in the first half, but
Speaker 1: I don't think I even believe that, because I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here all right. They've won five games, and every single
Speaker 1: one when Zeke had a good game, it also was
Speaker 1: dependent on Dak playing pretty damn well. And I'm even thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, Arizona, did they win that game because of
Speaker 1: Zeke or was it was it Dak? It was Dak, Bryce, well,
Speaker 1: Bryce too, but somebody had to throw those passes exact
Speaker 1: But how much does how much? Does? I know what
Speaker 1: you're saying, and I agree with it, but just to
Speaker 1: play Devil's advocate here, how much of that is, though,
Speaker 1: dependent on the fact that the defense. The opposing defense
Speaker 1: really creates their opportunities created because of Zeke being in
Speaker 1: the backfield. Yeah, but remember how the Cowboys offensive line
Speaker 1: was struggling. Even with those struggles, we've seen Dak being
Speaker 1: able to still keep the game going and get away
Speaker 1: and run and make the right moves that he should
Speaker 1: be making in order to keep the offense going. So
Speaker 1: that's why I'm saying like in that case, because again, Zeke,
Speaker 1: you expect him to be great. You expect him he
Speaker 1: goes up against the wall and he's gonna get those
Speaker 1: extra yards and he's great little yards, but they all
Speaker 1: add up at the end of the day. Again, Dad,
Speaker 1: we talked about his sophomore year, let's call it that way.
Speaker 1: Whether he was gonna have a slump, is that what
Speaker 1: you guys call it slump or not? And he hasn't.
Speaker 1: He's been great given the what has been happening to
Speaker 1: this team so far. Yeah, they really do go hand
Speaker 1: in hand. And I get what you're saying, and I
Speaker 1: I say it all the time like that. My analogy
Speaker 1: is that like Zeke is the engine of the car.
Speaker 1: He I mean, everything runs through him. He's the horsepower.
Speaker 1: But you still need a driver to drive the car
Speaker 1: and have it make the right decisions and go in
Speaker 1: the right places. And Dak has been so amazing at that.
Speaker 1: And this is such a quarterback dependent league, I'm just
Speaker 1: always inclined to give the nod toward the quarterback if
Speaker 1: you just had to right now, you have to give
Speaker 1: a six game suspension to one of them? Who are
Speaker 1: you giving it to? There? You go, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a no question, all right. But but I also
Speaker 1: but but but wait, but let's take it back one step.
Speaker 1: We started this conversation talking about Sean Lee and how
Speaker 1: important he was to this defense. Does this thing continue
Speaker 1: to go, Well, if he's not a part of give
Speaker 1: it you give your suspension to him, then you gotta
Speaker 1: give one out to somebody that no, it's not you,
Speaker 1: not me. You gotta give you a suspension out to somebody.
Speaker 1: I mean, And then maybe that's not fair because the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have padded this running back position with a full
Speaker 1: of really good expectation and they haven't done that at
Speaker 1: quarterback obviously, So you know that might be the drop off.
Speaker 1: But you know, we could be one growing injury away
Speaker 1: from having a different person in here. If chas Green
Speaker 1: can't block on Sunday. Good point if Tyren Smith is out,
Speaker 1: so we might have some complete different answer there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. No, I'm just gonna say I do think
Speaker 1: that there needs to be a little bit more thought
Speaker 1: they're given to Shan Lee, just because I do believe.
Speaker 1: I don't know that they win that game against Kansas City.
Speaker 1: You guys just said they probably win the games against
Speaker 1: maybe Green Bay or the Rams if they have him
Speaker 1: out there. I don't think they necessarily win against Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I don't think they stopped that offense the way they
Speaker 1: did without Sean Lee. Everything you said is true, But
Speaker 1: this is a this is a middling team without Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: But their offense is still good enough to give them
Speaker 1: an edge in a solid chunk of their games until
Speaker 1: they face better offenses. Yeah, this team is hopelessly lost
Speaker 1: without Like they're only as good as their offense is
Speaker 1: going to be. That's all that. That's that, that's just
Speaker 1: that's it. That's the bottom line, and so you go,
Speaker 1: I'm always going to give deference to and we're talking
Speaker 1: about something that we haven't seen. Thankfully we haven't seen
Speaker 1: dak Be you know, out of the game. But I
Speaker 1: will say, in a weird way, this sounds counterintuitive and bad,
Speaker 1: and I get that, like kind of intrigued to see
Speaker 1: what this will look like If Zeke isn't there, I
Speaker 1: would prefer to not have to deal with that. But
Speaker 1: with that, like that's just something that's on the docket,
Speaker 1: and we all think there's a pretty good chance he's
Speaker 1: gonna be going away. Let's talk about with that in mind,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of intrigued to see, you know, put even
Speaker 1: more on dak shoulders. I want to see what it
Speaker 1: looks like. I wish I could see it without accounting. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be run out there and run it through
Speaker 1: and then afterwards the game doesn't well you know this,
Speaker 1: Uh this past game against the Chiefs, I was thinking,
Speaker 1: and why aren't they running the ball more? I would
Speaker 1: expect him to have tried to run the ball more.
Speaker 1: But then I was really happy they didn't because we
Speaker 1: got a chance to see what it would be like
Speaker 1: with Dak kind of having the receivers more involved, and
Speaker 1: they were able to do so with having Zeke kind
Speaker 1: of like as a cushion in the back and as
Speaker 1: a support. Now, maybe with Zeke away, they're able to
Speaker 1: still keep that going what No, I was gonna ask
Speaker 1: I'm asking you a follow up question that go ahead. No,
Speaker 1: do you think that that was because the game plan?
Speaker 1: Does that represent the game plan before they knew about
Speaker 1: Zeke that they were gonna say, Hey, we're going in
Speaker 1: and we're gonna put this more on Dak, then we
Speaker 1: will on the running game. And they just didn't change
Speaker 1: it once Zeke was back. It probably did, and we
Speaker 1: talked about that before going into the face. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: y'all are making it sound like Zeke had ten carries. No,
Speaker 1: but they threw the ball more than they ran the
Speaker 1: ball this game. It was thirty three to thirty one,
Speaker 1: So he carried the ball twenty seven times. I understand that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying when you talk about the disparity of
Speaker 1: running versus passing, usually in most games the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: a run heavy team. They were not a run heavy
Speaker 1: team this week. I get what you're saying, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, ze Zeke carried the ball twenty seven times
Speaker 1: like he was still I didn't. I it's it's it's okay,
Speaker 1: it's fifty two forty eight, Like, yeah, that's outside of
Speaker 1: their that's outside of their tendency, but it's not so
Speaker 1: weird that it's like this crazy out no, no, no.
Speaker 1: But but I do think just that one play in
Speaker 1: the second drive when it was third and one, or
Speaker 1: was it maybe the first drive of the game was
Speaker 1: third and one, and he just goes back to throw it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, why aren't we giving the ball
Speaker 1: to Zeke here? Like I mean that play I remember,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember a lot others of like why
Speaker 1: aren't they running it? But when we talked about yesterday,
Speaker 1: both those two touchdown drives that they had, the first
Speaker 1: two touchdown drives, they had six passes to one run. Now,
Speaker 1: of course, the last one that was in a one
Speaker 1: minute fifty one minute thirty something seconds left in a half,
Speaker 1: so of course they're gonna be throwing more than they're
Speaker 1: gonna be running. But that first one that happened earlier
Speaker 1: in the game, there was not a time situation, and
Speaker 1: they threw the ball six times and ran it once.
Speaker 1: Like that's not typical of the Cowboys offense. And that's
Speaker 1: my point is there were moments in that game that
Speaker 1: didn't seem typical, and it does make me wonder, I
Speaker 1: know what you're saying, yes, they ran Zeke a ton
Speaker 1: of times, and that more importantly, like they didn't pull
Speaker 1: him out, which they usually do, especially in that third
Speaker 1: series of the game. They did not do that. But
Speaker 1: all that being said, I do think there was a
Speaker 1: difference in how they call that game than they typically
Speaker 1: call games. In my opinion, I think, man, you might
Speaker 1: be right. I can't say that you're definitively wrong, but
Speaker 1: it's not enough to where I'm convinced. I think Garrett
Speaker 1: would probably say something like WHOA, each game is different
Speaker 1: in the situation You've already told us that process. He
Speaker 1: will say things that you don't necessarily believe every day
Speaker 1: that really doesn't matter. But I don't know I would.
Speaker 1: I don't. That's not enough of a discrepancy that I'm
Speaker 1: jumping onto this thought. Probably, So let me ask that question,
Speaker 1: and I'll just ask you the question in this coming week.
Speaker 1: Let's assume for a second we get to the week
Speaker 1: end and Zeke is not available to the Cowboys. Do
Speaker 1: you expect this to be a team where they become
Speaker 1: now more dependent on the past than the run. No? No,
Speaker 1: I honestly, I okay, You're right. I don't always believe
Speaker 1: everything Jason Garrett says, but I do believe him when
Speaker 1: he says that they're not going to change a whole
Speaker 1: lot about what they do just because Zeke's not there
Speaker 1: until it has proven that they have to, Like they're
Speaker 1: gonna make these teams prove that Rod Smith, Alfred Morris
Speaker 1: and Darren McFadden can't hurt him. Before that, they just
Speaker 1: drastically like, all right, we're it's twenty twelve. That order
Speaker 1: Dack's throwing sixty times. No, not at but maybe I
Speaker 1: mean it'll it'll be come down to who's who's doing
Speaker 1: the best in the you know, the second half. Maybe
Speaker 1: it is Rod Smith. Alfred Morris looked like he really
Speaker 1: wanted to keep running after that one. Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: just took that Linebacker's like, what's we're going. We're getting
Speaker 1: a first down either you can grab me all you want,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna get eleven yards. It don't really care
Speaker 1: what you do. Like he looked that looked like a
Speaker 1: Zeke type of run. I'm so fascinated, Like all three
Speaker 1: of those guys, like you know, you know, they love
Speaker 1: their teammate, you know that they want what's best for
Speaker 1: the team. But like they want to play and and
Speaker 1: like I'm not saying they're like mad at Zeke or
Speaker 1: but mad at the situation, but like that's gotta be
Speaker 1: tough on them too, that like, you know, you think
Speaker 1: you're getting your chance. You're like it's like and this
Speaker 1: offensive line, it's like you're trying to get into a
Speaker 1: Cadillac and they're like, wait a second, hang on, we're
Speaker 1: not done with the paperwork yet. Like they want to
Speaker 1: run behind this line just as much as anybody else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: poor mcfad and he was gonna get a game, we
Speaker 1: actually could play football, right, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's like, nah, you're going to be an active again.
Speaker 1: I think if they get a chance to do their stuff,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna, you know, redefine the running
Speaker 1: back position, but I think they're like pissed off and
Speaker 1: want to show people that they they're talented to I'll
Speaker 1: say this, after watching last game, I feel a little
Speaker 1: bit more I guess less worried to see the Cowboys
Speaker 1: play without Zeke, like what they can possibly do without
Speaker 1: having him. I'm I'm feeling a little more confident about
Speaker 1: this team with you know, doing his app because it
Speaker 1: was solid balance. And let me go back to this
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to talk about. Actually what I oh?
Speaker 1: And another thing, No, I guess defensive sometimes, but I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly how I worded it yesterday, but I
Speaker 1: started getting some messages from people, Oh, I'm so negative,
Speaker 1: and do you even watch the games? Yes? I watch
Speaker 1: every single game. I'm at every single game. Yes, My
Speaker 1: point yesterday was I don't think the Cowboys offense suck
Speaker 1: at all. They've been what it's fair to say average,
Speaker 1: averaging like thirty points a game or so something like that,
Speaker 1: but they've been very, very good at scoring points. They've
Speaker 1: been good at the running game. Again, my point yesterday
Speaker 1: was saying that it was to me, at least the
Speaker 1: first time I saw them be successful as successful successful
Speaker 1: at the passing game as they were compared to every
Speaker 1: other game that we've seen. Yes, they've thrown the ball,
Speaker 1: Yes they made some good catches here and there, but
Speaker 1: they weren't very consistent at it. And this was the
Speaker 1: one time that I thought they were actually able to
Speaker 1: have it more consistent. And the interesting part about that point,
Speaker 1: Amber is that it's not just Dak, it's the receivers
Speaker 1: like until this last game, have you seen a game
Speaker 1: this year where you had the full compliment of receivers
Speaker 1: being a part of the game and really making plays
Speaker 1: that made a difference. Terrence Williams obviously in what he did,
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley with two touchdowns, Dez catching some balls across
Speaker 1: the middle, which I think he's probably best at, and
Speaker 1: they don't seem to find him all the time in
Speaker 1: those situations. You know, I just think that it goes
Speaker 1: back to what you were saying. I don't think they've
Speaker 1: really gotten into a game this year where all those
Speaker 1: things clicked like they should have, certainly like they did
Speaker 1: last year, because I think they had several games last
Speaker 1: year where they had a compliment of guys all clicking
Speaker 1: in the passing game with the running game. How about
Speaker 1: this that I told you right before, And you're right,
Speaker 1: the passing game has not been there. I don't believe
Speaker 1: Dak has a three hundred yard game yet. And the
Speaker 1: first one hundred yard receiving game was Terrence Williams, who
Speaker 1: would have won that bet. But the Cowboys have tied
Speaker 1: this team's This offense has tied the franchise record for
Speaker 1: most consecutive games of twenty eight points or more was six.
Speaker 1: It happened in two thousand and seven. It's pretty good
Speaker 1: offense right there, with Romo, Tarrell Owens and those guys
Speaker 1: Marion Barber so set they had six games of twenty
Speaker 1: eight points or more. This one's already there and has
Speaker 1: a chance this week to pass that and might need,
Speaker 1: might need to get there against Atlanta to get seven straight.
Speaker 1: So that just goes to show that this offense, and
Speaker 1: some of its been defense and turnovers, but how this
Speaker 1: offense has turned in around and you can't just take
Speaker 1: it away. I get that. But outside of one just
Speaker 1: abysmally horrific day in Denver for everybody involved. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've been on a role all year and they read
Speaker 1: zone problems against the Giants, but they put up twenty
Speaker 1: eight against the Cardinals, put up thirty against the Rams,
Speaker 1: thirty one against the Pack. I mean they Denver is
Speaker 1: really the only team that just completely stopped him from
Speaker 1: doing what they wanted to do. It's amazing that they
Speaker 1: did that, and now they are the team that they are.
Speaker 1: Paul's weird like that man, like they have just completely
Speaker 1: fallen off the map after a start like they had
Speaker 1: where the two Batman back wins, including the big win
Speaker 1: of the counts. You know it all those first four
Speaker 1: or five games, Um, you know, Packers was the fifth game,
Speaker 1: But when you think about it, two of those games
Speaker 1: they had they got to play against the team missing
Speaker 1: their best offensive player in Odell Beckham and David Johnson.
Speaker 1: And then you know, but they have to face a
Speaker 1: Denver team now that's not playing like that now Green
Speaker 1: Bays certainly not playing like they are now, and we
Speaker 1: know why. So just kind of works out that way
Speaker 1: as a schedule of the NFL, right yea. And that's
Speaker 1: the other thing that makes you feel pretty good about
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys are at this moment. Now that can
Speaker 1: all change, but at this moment, they've been one of
Speaker 1: the healthier teams in the NFL, and so that they
Speaker 1: have not had that major injury that somebody's gonna miss
Speaker 1: the play somebody's gonna miss the playoffs by a game,
Speaker 1: you know, and I can't think who would be, but
Speaker 1: but somebody's gonna have to face Zeke and lose. And
Speaker 1: you know, he was supposed supposed to be suspended for
Speaker 1: these six, but then it's gonna be the six and
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna work out, probably bad for somebody,
Speaker 1: maybe for the Cowboys. You know, maybe it was Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like Kansas City, if right. If he
Speaker 1: gets suspended at this point, basically you said it last week,
Speaker 1: Oakland becomes the benefactor because now he got to play
Speaker 1: against Kansas City, and then he would miss the game
Speaker 1: versus Oakland, so and that affects their division on that
Speaker 1: timeline as well. Then he comes back just in time
Speaker 1: to play the Seahawks, who you would imagine or scrapping
Speaker 1: for a playoff spot as well. Right, So, I mean
Speaker 1: it fascinating little jigsaw puzzle. All right, we appreciate you
Speaker 1: guys joining us back tomorrow nine thirty am. Told then
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