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Speaker 2: This is Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: It is Friday, October ninth, twenty twenty, and it is time,

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Speaker 3: donks for Morning Combat. Hi everyone, my name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Friday edition of the show. I am

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hoodies only on Friday. There's no rules, right you know,

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Speaker 4: it's there's no business on top. It's party all over

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Speaker 3: Certainly was a very memorable fight. Yes, very good. All right,

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Speaker 3: we have a lot to get today. We're gonna get

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Speaker 3: It was nice, We've glad to see him back, it

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Speaker 2: Now to your point.

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Speaker 3: In Connor's defense, though he's been waiting around since January.

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Speaker 3: Connor would do that no matter what. But these cards

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Speaker 4: He went all in to try to force his moment

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Speaker 1: This is rough. Now. Look, obviously you could set up

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Speaker 1: how about a Nat Diaz fight, right, how about a

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Speaker 1: freakin mazit All fight image If they did that, I

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Speaker 1: they did something like that. But this doesn't get him

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Speaker 4: And considering he just did a solid for the company

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Speaker 1: We really don't know who's gonna win.

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Speaker 4: It's perfection right now, and it does kind of connect

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Speaker 3: I don't know why he called Connor a terrorist. That

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Speaker 2: Dude, I get it.

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Speaker 3: I completely get it, and I think Tony has to

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Speaker 4: Now, do you give Tony more money than you want

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just nailed that the game is the game.

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Speaker 4: Okay, And but you know Omarkny you want to act,

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Speaker 1: It's totally fine, Luke, Okay, but I'm just saying that, uh,

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Speaker 3: Can we be PC about one thing? Can we please

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Speaker 2: Please.

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Speaker 4: Look, you have called me a terrorist on this show

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Speaker 4: but that's fair just because I went to your brother's

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Speaker 3: If it's any consolation, he does the same thing to me,

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Speaker 4: I was hoping to bargain that relationship into eating those

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Speaker 4: and all that. Yeah, it's my conversation. Would you risk

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Speaker 1: I will do that on the Patreon show. All right,

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Speaker 1: But Luke, this fight is great. Connor Pooria two.

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Speaker 4: Who are the betting odds been gonna go after here?

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Speaker 4: of did better against Habib than Dustin did. Connor owes

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Speaker 4: My heart's telling me Poorier should be the favorite here,

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Speaker 3: For the reasons you just articulated. Connor has good use

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Speaker 4: You know, he learned Eddie Alvarez into a brawl and

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Speaker 4: That's why I want to see it, because I want

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Speaker 4: It's oh god, I loved it. Pour some sugar on me,

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Speaker 4: and I'm not talking about Rashad Evans in the name

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Speaker 4: of love, Luke, I want this, I need this.

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Speaker 1: Please. I know you and McK maynard are friends. Make

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Speaker 3: You, Yeah we are. I think we follow each other

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Speaker 3: This weekend is going to be UFC Fight Night, whatever

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Speaker 4: What comes to mind is Cory Sanhagen's mindset, which I

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Speaker 1: I want to pause real quick and just say how.

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Speaker 4: Great is this fight? And it's completely under the radar

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Speaker 1: Luke, this is a world class basically a title fight

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Speaker 2: Jack? Mee?

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Speaker 1: Right now?

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Speaker 4: Thank you Jack, level nine? Got it all right? Look,

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Speaker 4: Longtime guy Ariel Hawani of ESPN had a really good

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Speaker 4: Here's the deal, Luke, every fighter you talk to says

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Speaker 4: Yet every time guys like you and me go to

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Speaker 4: What do they need to do here? Cory Sanhagan, who

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Speaker 4: know my skills are there, I know I can beat

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Speaker 4: mi Reish heads up. I gotta get myself mentally back

441
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 4: to where I come in at the even keel ready

442
00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 4: to go level if he is, Luke, if this is

443
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 4: something he has figured out, style for style, skills for skills,

444
00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,160
Speaker 4: I think he has the ability to throw so many

445
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,120
Speaker 4: different looks and angles and the length and I'm glad

446
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 4: you didn't call him Cody Sanhagan. Thank you against ma Reisch.

447
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,440
Speaker 4: That if he can take this into the later rounds

448
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,880
Speaker 4: and this is a five round main event, I really

449
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,760
Speaker 4: like his chances there, Luke. Maybe it buttons up with

450
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,479
Speaker 4: the fact that ma Reisch at times con gaslate, especially

451
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,359
Speaker 4: if he goes for the finish early. I think it

452
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 4: all comes down to the mental game here. Nice graphics,

453
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:51,959
Speaker 4: Rabier team, They're there.

454
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 1: We didn't notice it though, And Luke, you know he's

455
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 1: my favorite in this fight. I love me some mim Reisch.

456
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 1: Is that line right for the very elite? And you

457
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 1: know he may win a title one day, he's that good.

458
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 4: But I thought san Haagan was that guy before the

459
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 4: Aljo fight, and this is now his double down chance.

460
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 4: This ain't no come back from a loss. Get well,

461
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 4: you're going right back in in a basic number one

462
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 4: contender fight. We will find out on Saturday whether Corey

463
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 4: Sanhagan friend of the program, is everything I thought he

464
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 4: was before the Aljro fight.

465
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Speaker 1: This is his sort of not his last chance.

466
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 4: He's young, but you only get X amount of chances

467
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 4: to really stamp that home that you are for real.

468
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Speaker 1: He's gonna have that chance on Saturday, and I think

469
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 1: it's up here. Look it's up here, brother, Okay, right here?

470
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's interesting.

471
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,199
Speaker 3: I've spoken to him a number of times about his

472
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Speaker 3: various approaches to the game, and you're right.

473
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Speaker 2: He came in and Frankmer used to do this a lot.

474
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,199
Speaker 3: Like if you go watch Frankmir against Shane Carwin, he

475
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 3: was relaxed to the point of not taking the threat seriously.

476
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 3: You want to be relaxed to the point you don't

477
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 3: trip over your own shoes. You want to be relaxed

478
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 3: to the point where you don't get in your own way.

479
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 3: You don't want to be relaxed to the point that

480
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 3: you're not really understanding what the other person in front

481
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 3: of you is trying to do. And I think he

482
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 3: got a little bit over that line. But as you

483
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 3: indicated skilled for skill there, they don't come a whole

484
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 3: lot better than Corey Sandhagen. He is a nimble stance switcher.

485
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 3: He has great footwork, good timing, amazing faints, a good scrambler,

486
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 3: take down defense I think is a part of his

487
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 3: game that needs some work. It only is historically around

488
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 3: thirty three percent. That probably needs to come up a

489
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 3: little bit if he really wants to be one of

490
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,479
Speaker 3: the more elite lasting bands on weights. But against Marla Maris,

491
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,479
Speaker 3: that isn't necessarily the most relevant concern. This is going

492
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 3: to be one about striking and his big power and

493
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 3: his speed and his combination. So I go back to

494
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,959
Speaker 3: Sanhagan's fight against halfail a suns out, and he was

495
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 3: very much able to back him up with feints and

496
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 3: fakes and all kinds of angles and stand switching and

497
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 3: tricks and luring him into the space he wanted him

498
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 3: to with different kinds of trap settings and whatnot. Now,

499
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 3: certainly a Sunsou was not the same as Maris, But

500
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Speaker 3: I do think there's one problem that Mari's facing, because

501
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 3: we're talking about the sand Haagan show. Maris was this

502
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 3: guy who came in from World Series of Fighting, stumbled

503
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 3: a little bit in his debut, but then after that

504
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: was just an absolute force to be reckoned with, running

505
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 3: over numerous top contenders. Then he loses to Suhudo and

506
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 3: then he lost Excuse me, he beats I should say Aldo,

507
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 3: but a people thought he lost Aldo, or at least

508
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 3: some did.

509
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: And two, even if you are beat even.

510
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 3: If you thought he beat Aldo, you have to recognize

511
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 3: it felt like folks were getting a handle on the blueprint,

512
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: which was pressuring this guy backwards, forcing him to move,

513
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 3: not set his feet and not be able to get

514
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 3: his kicks off. You give the guy space to move

515
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: laterally and forward and backward to back you down.

516
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: He's a nightmare.

517
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 3: You do the opposite, it is a much easier fight

518
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 3: to win. So the question is a can Corey Sanhagan

519
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 3: do that and be if he can. What does that

520
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 3: say about the long term prospects for someone like Marice,

521
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: who one or two years ago was considered to be

522
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: the very top of this division for a long.

523
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Speaker 2: Time to come.

524
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Speaker 3: It's almost like the rugg got pulled out from under

525
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 3: him in the most surprising of ways for a guy

526
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 3: who was such a formidable striker and talent.

527
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I said he's you know, I didn't

528
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 4: want to use terms like elite gatekeeper. Maris was a

529
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 4: killer before he went into those those big names.

530
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Speaker 1: He just talked about.

531
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Speaker 4: He may still, he may win this fight. He may

532
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 4: win the title for all we know. That's why this

533
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 4: VANDAM weight division is so good. But you know, maybe

534
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 4: I'm wrong, but this is how I see it. I

535
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 4: think Sanhagan's ceiling is a little bit higher. He's not

536
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 4: as explosive as Maris, but you know, talent for talent,

537
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 4: this has all the makings to be a great fight.

538
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 4: I love that it's sort of slipping in in between

539
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 4: on this calendar. As you mentioned, October's loaded with big

540
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 4: time boxing in MMA, and this is your Fight Night

541
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 4: five round main event. This has the potential to be

542
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 4: fantastic and you know who one of my favorite fighters

543
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 4: was Luke. You know, a generation ago in UFC, remember

544
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 4: Dustin Haslett now emt loved that guy. I almost feel

545
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 4: like san Haagen is what Dustin could have been in

546
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 4: this era as a more well rounded guy but still

547
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 4: has unique threats in certain categories. I think he's a

548
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 4: special fighter. Again, san Haagan goes out there and lays

549
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 4: an egg.

550
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: It is what it is.

551
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 4: But I think this is his fight to win Luke

552
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 4: in a very close fight on paper, and I'm going

553
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 4: with our guy there, Cody Corey, both of them, both

554
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 4: san Hagan's I'm going with.

555
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 2: Him very quickly.

556
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: Any other fight on the card, I mean Edson, Barbosa, Mukwan,

557
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: I'm your Kannie as a co main event seems fine.

558
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: Hard to know what's left of Barboza, but if there's

559
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 3: anything left of him relative to his peak, he should

560
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 3: have done that pretty handily. Anything else on that card

561
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 3: that stands out.

562
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Speaker 1: To you, can I look at it, Luca, You're you're

563
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: kind of catching me cold here.

564
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 3: Can let me go while you while you do your

565
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 3: homework live on the air. I'll do this, Ben Rothwell,

566
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 3: getting back to action against Marching Taibora should be kind

567
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: of interesting. He has spoken out about some of his

568
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 3: political stands, causing him a little bit of trouble back home,

569
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: which has been an interesting kind of storyline there. I

570
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 3: would also say, Yusef Zilal is back. I think what

571
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 3: is this his fifth fight? His fourth or fifth fight

572
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 3: this year? So he has fought three times February, June,

573
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 3: and all August. He won them all, granted, albeit through decision.

574
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 3: This is his fourth fight in the UFC of the

575
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: calendar year, which means in October BC. If it goes

576
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: quickly or it goes well without too much issue, it

577
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 3: is possible he could squeeze five fights inside of twenty twenty,

578
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Speaker 3: maybe even ten or eleven months, which is frankly unheard

579
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 3: of in the modern era. Now I'm putting the cart

580
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: before the horse. He has to win, but he has

581
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: been an interesting guy. Trains out there with Factory X

582
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: and Mark Montoya, very well schooled, nice guy intervened Him's

583
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: got a great immigrant story coming over from Morocco back

584
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 3: in the Middle World on him.

585
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: So again, hell, Third.

586
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Speaker 1: World, you're ass if you're not careful, that's a little

587
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: bit racist.

588
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: Lastly, also Tom Aspinall who had a great UFC debut.

589
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: I think he's from Liverpool, very very good heavyweight striker.

590
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: We'll see what he can do.

591
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 4: Look, I think Cynthia Calvio had five wins in a

592
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Speaker 4: calendar year a couple of years ago, although one was

593
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 4: not in UFC.

594
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Speaker 1: And also Luke, I have looked at the undercard now.

595
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Speaker 4: No, I'm not excited about any other fight, but thank

596
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 4: you for breaking down those storylines.

597
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 3: Also, Chris Dawks taken on Handrigo Naciamento should be good.

598
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: Oh that guy cam Philly. Yeah he bangs a little bit.

599
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,719
Speaker 2: All right, I'm he bang, he bang. H Okay.

600
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: So now we go to topic number three. Belatore two

601
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Speaker 3: forty eight. So Bellatore triumphantly putting their first show on

602
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: the first major not the actually first first, but the

603
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: first major MMA show in Paris, France. France has finally

604
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: legalized MMA for folks who man, I know, they have

605
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: a long history of judo and they're very very elite

606
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: judo players that come out of their Teddy Reiner being

607
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: a reigner how do you pronounce it? Is one of

608
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: the most sort of prominent ones in the modern era.

609
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: But they finally got it done there.

610
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Speaker 2: It is.

611
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Speaker 3: They're going to have a show there and it's going

612
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: to be headlined BC. Well in a couple of different ways.

613
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Speaker 1: There's the well, let's talk about this, Luke, let's jump

614
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: in and talk. Explain.

615
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: Explain to the folks how they're stacking it and what

616
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Speaker 3: would you what you make of that?

617
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, we tell the truth around here. We're you know,

618
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: we're all Vikom CBS family at the end.

619
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Speaker 4: But I don't like when Beltour does two cards on

620
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: back to back nights from the same city.

621
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Speaker 1: I'd rather than loaded up my preference. This is a

622
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: little weird rollout.

623
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Speaker 4: Tomorrow, we're getting a four fight main card of Belotore

624
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 4: two forty eight beginning at eleven thirty am Eastern Time

625
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 4: on CBS Sports Network. Michael Page and Ross Houston is

626
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 4: the main event of that. Then you get the undercard

627
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 4: after that for Bellatore Paris, and then your Bellator Paris

628
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 4: main event is about five pm Eastern when it's uh

629
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 4: Checkango and Timothy Johnson at heavyweight. That's a two car

630
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 4: two fight main card at five Eastern. Is a little

631
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 4: wacky in jumbled, Okay, it's gonna be all day breakfast

632
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: with Belatore, lunch with Belatore, tea time with Bellatore, whatever.

633
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 4: But in terms of the fights, Luke, anything here moving

634
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: you cause I'm I'm getting a little moved by MVP

635
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 4: right here.

636
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: You want me to tell you why?

637
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Please?

638
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: All right? He's got Ross Houston. You don't know Houston.

639
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: He's eight and oh thirty two year old from Scotland,

640
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: had won the welterweight championship at Cage Warriors. Looks like

641
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: a formidable fole here.

642
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 4: But obviously this matchup is more about where is Michael

643
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 4: Page exactly? We know he got one punched by Douglas.

644
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 4: Lima has come back with three knockouts, but Luke, they're

645
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 4: against guys.

646
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: Maybe he sho have knocked out. I'm not telling you Ross.

647
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 4: Houston is a world beater, but this is an interesting challenge.

648
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 4: But here's what I love about MVP. You want to

649
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 4: get in his mind? You figure out is did that

650
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 4: one loss to Lima humble him? Did it make him

651
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: want to be more of an entertainer than a fighter?

652
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: What was it?

653
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: Well?

654
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: He was on CBS Sports HQ this week, Luke and

655
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: I checked that interview out and he says it's not

656
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: about the title. I'm gonna be wherever Douglas Lima is

657
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: gonna be. I'm gonna run that back. If he goes

658
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: to middleweight and beats Musasi for the title, I'm moving

659
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: up to middleweight. If he goes to light heavyweight after that,

660
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: or he goes to heavyweight, I'm moving up to heavyweight.

661
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: Where he eats, I eat, where he sleeps, I sleep.

662
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: Which is a nice shout out to Shannon Briggs. Let's

663
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: go champ on stealing.

664
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: That line, and I'll add in my own where he bangs,

665
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 4: I bang. I like that from MVP. I like that

666
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: Luke that it's this guy bested me. He's one of

667
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: the best in the game. I'm gonna get him back.

668
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 4: I think that's where Michael Page should be leaning and

669
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 4: looking to go. And Scott Coker did say the winner

670
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: of this, if they do so spectacularly, could very well

671
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 4: be getting a walter Way title shot next, whether it's

672
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 4: a rematch with Lima, if it's MVP, or it's more

673
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: a vacant title. Interesting fight here Luke actually has some

674
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: legit title implications.

675
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: How much do you.

676
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: Believe that MVP can be just that a true elite

677
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: title contending out and not just a guy who can

678
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 4: do spinny shit against C plus fighters.

679
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, not much, not much. I don't begrudge him that.

680
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: I don't think that's some kind of knock on his

681
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: character or it makes him a bad person. I think

682
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: the belt or gave him the kind of treatment to

683
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: really bring him along to get the best out of him.

684
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: I actually love his showmanship when he was bringing out

685
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 3: the Infinity Gauntlet, I was all in favor of at

686
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: the Pokemon Ball like I think that really. I mean,

687
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: he gets on Sports Center or goes viral for Belatore,

688
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: and you can understand why they want to keep a

689
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: guy like that around. He is just built for virality.

690
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: He is the viral fighter in the viral information age,

691
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: and so in that sense he has tremendous value. And

692
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: they did what they could. They gave him every kind

693
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: of new want step along the way to see where

694
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: he was. But when he goes up against the very

695
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 3: very best, he certainly performs ably, but he's not of

696
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: that caliber.

697
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: And that's okay, not everybody is. That's not the reason

698
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: why I.

699
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: Want to ask you. I want to pause you and

700
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: ask you the sample size that we've seen of him

701
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: against the elite was the very sleep inducing technical performance

702
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: against Paul Day in which neither committed to throwing, and

703
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: it was a fight with Lima that started to heat up,

704
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: and when it did, he got knocked out with one punch.

705
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: Is that enough of a sample size to show you

706
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: whether he is or isn't truly.

707
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: Elite by itself?

708
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: It's not definitive evidence, if that's what you mean, Like

709
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: we can affirmatively conclude based on all of these fights

710
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 3: he is or is not.

711
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: That is not true.

712
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: However, the fact that he went up against Lima didn't

713
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: get out of the second round. I don't believe it

714
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 3: went pretty you know, it went went pretty well for Lima.

715
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: It was not much of a contest for the most part.

716
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: The Daily fight sucks, but that was in part. You know,

717
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: I blame Daily just as much as MVP for that one. So, okay,

718
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: it's a bit of a wash. But here's the thing,

719
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: instead of two other things, just sort of note, he

720
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: has beaten the Ricky Raineys and the David Rickles of

721
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: the world, who were good fighters but maybe not of

722
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: that next caliber, and so feasting on them is interesting evidence.

723
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: But it was how consistently Bellatore told you that's where

724
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: they thought he was, that they kept putting him there.

725
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: I mean, if they really thought he was the best

726
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 3: welch ofweight nearly twenty fights into his career, you'd know

727
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: by now they would have done it over and over

728
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 3: and over again, Like for example, they know Patricio Frede

729
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: is the best fighter they have, or pretty goddamn close

730
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: to it.

731
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: If he's not number one, and I think.

732
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: Luke, you can call him free air, it's fine.

733
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: They know they know Ryan Vader is as good as advertised.

734
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: You can see it from their matchmaking. Bellatore tried to

735
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: give the most amount of time to MVP to get

736
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: the best out of it, and that's okay.

737
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: He got pretty good.

738
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: And to your point, I can't declare it's not true

739
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: that he can't beat those other guys. But against No

740
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: Sean Burrell he couldn't do a whole lot. Against Paul Dailey,

741
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: he couldn't do a whole lot, And against you know, Douglasma,

742
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: he could do hardly anything at all. It just sort

743
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: of tells you. I think he's not that young either.

744
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: I think he's thirty.

745
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: How old is he three?

746
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: Thirty three thirty three, So this is my point.

747
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: Can give me that my savior perished?

748
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, all right, that's a weird thing to

749
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: bring up. But all right, can he beat Douglas Lima?

750
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: I can't tell you no what I bet on it?

751
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: I would not.

752
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that's interesting.

753
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 4: I'd like to go to Jay here for any religion reactions,

754
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 4: but he is not camera able today. Jay's having plenty

755
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 4: of Wi Fi issues, Luke and I am waiting though.

756
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 4: Remember that scene in Sleepers where Kevin Bacon is eating

757
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 4: spaghetti in the back of that bar and the kids

758
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: that he raped grew up and they and they came

759
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: back for payback and they shot and killed him. Do

760
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 4: we have a j Ron Johnson type Sleepers ending in

761
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: our future?

762
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: All right?

763
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: Elsewhere on this card we have Matt's Burnell UFC veteran.

764
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna sell that book.

765
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: He's gonna be He's gonna be on there.

766
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: The other one is Check Congo Timothy Johnson. Dude, you

767
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: realize Check Congo has it lost since twenty fifteen? Did

768
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: you realize that he's.

769
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: Won like nine in a row and under the belatour

770
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 4: banner and then there was the weird, the weird Betera fight. Look,

771
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: he was gonna lose the better fight, Luke, you know that, right,

772
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 4: It was weird, Right, there was an ipoke.

773
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: I think Mittreol kicked somebody in the dick. It was

774
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: a weird fight.

775
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: Still, he hasn't technically hasn't lossince twenty fifteen. He's going

776
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: to rematch Timothy Johnson, who he knocked out I think

777
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen. So it's a rematch Timothy Johnson, UFC veteran.

778
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: First two fights in Bellatore didn't go his way, but

779
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: the last two, including the one of for Mittrion knocking

780
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: him out pretty quickly. Maybe he's finally turned things around.

781
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: So I guess that will be the belt or Paris

782
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: main event BC, which I think is going to air

783
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: in whatever channel in France.

784
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: That's a big deal, so.

785
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 4: Just to be clear, Just to be clear here, both

786
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: the Bellatore Paris undercard, which starts about one thirty I believe,

787
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: and the five pm Eastern Belatore Paris main card airs

788
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 4: on the Bellatore MMA YouTube channel. Just for full clarity,

789
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: also airs on local French television. Luke, is there a

790
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 4: thing to be said here that the winner of this

791
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 4: rematch check Congo Timothy Johnson could get a title shot

792
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 4: here against Bader.

793
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: Is this out of bounds?

794
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think that's not crazy.

795
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: I mean, they got to keep him active obviously light

796
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 3: heavyweight at this point. Is the Vedeem Nemkov show over

797
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: at Belatore, no real case for a rematch there for Bader,

798
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: he got wiped, So I don't think that's crazy. I

799
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: don't know how exciting that is per se, because Congo

800
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: feels like he's very valuable for Belatore given their French ambitions,

801
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 3: and he obviously still has a little bit left in

802
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 3: the tank. But I don't know how much he excites

803
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: the non French fan base at this point.

804
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: All right, real quick on Belatour.

805
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: Scott Cooker also announced on CBS Sports HQ this week

806
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 4: that Corey Anderson's promotional debut Luke, will be November fifth,

807
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: Thursday night, CBS Sports Network. His light heavyweight opponent Melvin

808
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: Mannhoff right bombs away.

809
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: So Twitter's killing Belator for this matchup, you know company

810
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: man aside, it's a little gas station heavy. I kind

811
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: of like it. Look, I'm sorry, I don't care that

812
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: Manhoff's forty four. I don't care.

813
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 4: If this isn't his best weight class. He will send

814
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: you to hell at any time. Cory Anderson just got

815
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 4: knocked out by Bla Holwitz. This is this is an

816
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: interesting It's an interesting fight, Luke, okay, could be gross.

817
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: It's interesting though.

818
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably gonna be gross.

819
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: I thought Manhoff should have retired a long time ago,

820
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: and after that he got a bunch of wins, so

821
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 3: I've been a little bit wrong about that. And I mean,

822
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 3: you can still get wins and be a viable fighter

823
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 3: and already have too much damage from fighting, including brain trauma,

824
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: so it's not one doesn't preclude the other necessarily. Still,

825
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 3: i'd have preferred something. I would have preferred an immediate

826
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 3: title shot, frankly against Vedem Nemkov. I think that would

827
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: be a really exciting one. But maybe they want to

828
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 3: slow roll it. It's still dangerous enough where if you're

829
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 3: not on your you know, minding your p's and your queues,

830
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: Manhoff will set you on fire. But that's a fairly

831
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: easy fight for It should be a fairly easy fight

832
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: for Corey Anderson.

833
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, was so could you busy? I mean come on,

834
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: who else was in discussion here.

835
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: Luke, it's a good question, all right, Last, but not least,

836
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: we see. We'll pump pump to you.

837
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: On this one.

838
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 3: We got a bunch of fight announcements on the boxing

839
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: side of things for the month of December. Take it away,

840
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: good sir, What can you tell us?

841
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: Look, December fifth is gonna be a very busy day.

842
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm happy about this.

843
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 4: That fight we already know what's gonna happen on Fox

844
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 4: pay per view from the PBC. Errol Spence Junior, first

845
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: fight back from the accident and the win over Sean

846
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 4: Porter a year ago, gonna go up against former champion

847
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 4: Danny Garcia. I love this matchup, two world titles at stake.

848
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 4: But it's gonna be moved now to December fifth, and

849
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: it's gonna take place at and T Stadium, Luke, in

850
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 4: front of fans.

851
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: So this is interesting. I don't know how many fans.

852
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's gonna be more of the

853
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: ten to fifteen thousand variety let's spread them out, or

854
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 4: if we're gonna go full on Florida man crazy Luke.

855
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 4: Governor DeSantis did approve, I saw on Twitter the other day.

856
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: The idea of sixty five thousand fans can.

857
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: Enter the Dolphins Stadium Florida has not I'm sorry the

858
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: team has not committed to that yet, but it's it's

859
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: in play, and that's interesting for our February bet.

860
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: But I love this fight. I love putting it in

861
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 4: a big dome. Hopefully we can have some fans there

862
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: and on the same day. This is good news for

863
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: boxing fans. Ryan Garcia, the massive Golden Boy prospect. We

864
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 4: know he'd been in arguments with Golden Boy de la

865
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 4: Joya de Zone about getting paid what he deserves, being

866
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 4: in the right matchups, getting you know all that. He's

867
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 4: gonna fight Luke Campbell, a former title holder there. This

868
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: is a great fight. It's gonna be on his own

869
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 4: that day. And look for Ryan Garcia. We need him

870
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 4: in these level abouts to find out how good he is.

871
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: And my man, my cousin, Louke Campbell here, shout out

872
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: to uh, that would be Luther Campbell, but shout out

873
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 4: to uncle Luke.

874
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: There.

875
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: He can fight.

876
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 4: He's a you know, he's got a great Olympic pedigree.

877
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 4: He's a very good boxer, he's tough. Look, this is

878
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: a really good hardcore fan matchup, and it's gonna tell

879
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 4: us a lot about who Raigay is. And think about this,

880
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: What if Connor comes back into say, we got this

881
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: doubleheader of boxing on the fifth, we got a really

882
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 4: good showtime fight with Nordino Bali putting his title up

883
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 4: against Undo Donator that month. What if we also get

884
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 4: Fury Wilder three, which there's a lot of talk.

885
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: Could it be December? Would they push it off to January?

886
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 4: This is what we talked about at the beginning of

887
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: the of the pandemic and the quarantine, Luke, that once

888
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 4: everybody does come back, they're gonna hit us over the

889
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 4: head with good matchups because they have to. We're already

890
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 4: talking about a loaded October. December could be massive. If

891
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 4: we end up getting every you know, every six seven days,

892
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 4: another giant card.

893
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what your pay per view

894
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: budget looks like. I get to expense them myself, Luke.

895
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: But this is pretty exciting, you.

896
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 2: Know, it's kind of interesting.

897
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: We didn't really put this in the rundown, but it's

898
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: worth thinking about. For some reason, it's not true. It's

899
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: not true that Fight Sports haven't also felt this. But

900
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: if you look at the ratings for all sports, NBA, Tennis,

901
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: horse racing, you know, even football to a degree, everything

902
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: is down and down in major way, and folks have

903
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: having a little bit of a hard time understanding. Although

904
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: some of it makes sense. The NBA season is long

905
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: supposed to be over, it's going head to head with

906
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: American football, It's gonna have a hard time competing, blah

907
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: blah blah. But it does feel like to me, b

908
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: see that the big fights, the big ones, are the

909
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: ones that people really care about. Those still stick out

910
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 3: no problem at a sign your coasta being you know,

911
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 3: a great example, Charlio Doubleheader. On the boxing side, you

912
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: know the boxing community was kind of waiting for that

913
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: one a little bit. Right here, we have some fights

914
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: coming down the pike as the ones you just mentioned that,

915
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: I feel like, I don't know if all of them

916
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: will do well. Another Garcia versus Campbell fight that is

917
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: going to be on de zone as you indicate.

918
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: It, So it's a little bit different.

919
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: But some of these other ones, I feel like, I

920
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: don't know if all of them will do well. But

921
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: don't you feel like the big fights on fight sports,

922
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: they're not pandemic immune but relative to the other sports,

923
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: I don't feel like they're suffering as much.

924
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: No, they're not.

925
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: And there's a whole idea of if you're stuck home,

926
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: would you pay to see great fights?

927
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: Probably? But I think it's certainly important, Luke, this trend

928
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: that we're going toward.

929
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 4: Of stadiums opening up so that motors can get a

930
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 4: bit of their money back through the live gate, which

931
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: is so important.

932
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: Luke.

933
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 4: I do want you to comment though on our bet

934
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 4: here Okay, it looked like I was gonna win it early,

935
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 4: then it looked like you were gonna win it the bet.

936
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: Well, Jay, are you is this live? Jay? Or can

937
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: only we hear you?

938
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: Jay?

939
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: Are you there.

940
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 2: All right?

941
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: Jay is claiming that at AT and T for the

942
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 4: Cowboys game last week they had twenty thousand Luke, our

943
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 4: bet was that February first, twenty twenty one, we would

944
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: see full indoor arenas filled. Now that might not look good,

945
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 4: but how do you feel as a I don't know

946
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 4: if liberal is the word. I don't know if scared

947
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 4: man is the word. I don't know, doctor, Luke. Fauci

948
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 4: is the word?

949
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: Here?

950
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: Are you okay?

951
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: With fights echoing the NFL, but maybe taking it a

952
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: step further and by the new year. I'm serious about this.

953
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 4: Why can't we go to Raiders Stadium? Why can't we

954
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: have Fury Wilder three? And why can't we fill the stadium?

955
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 4: But put everybody in a mask? Won't the germs go

956
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 4: up and out?

957
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: Only in mma is the guy who listens to scientists

958
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: somehow the crazy one.

959
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: It tells you how fucking background.

960
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: Germs they're going The germs are going up, They're going

961
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: up and out.

962
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: He tells you how fuck It tells you how stupid

963
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: and backward this absolutely dumb ass industry is. Here's what

964
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 3: I'll say. Uh, As treatment gets better, as mask wearing

965
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: becomes more under universal, as rapid testing becomes more deployable,

966
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: your options open up in a dramatic way, no doubt

967
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: about it. So I still don't know how we're going

968
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: to get to full indoor arenas by February. But BC,

969
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: with these stadiums that are large, ones that have retractable roofs,

970
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: ones that have just give you a little bit of

971
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: flexibility in meeting some of these other different demands, I

972
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 3: do think you're gonna see a little bit more of that.

973
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 3: And to your point, you know, Governor Ron De Santis

974
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 3: Florida said, Hey, if you want to have sixty five

975
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: thousand people in the stadium for the Dolphins, you can.

976
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 3: Dolphins are like, we'll keep it at thirteen k.

977
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: Thanks.

978
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: Still, thirteen k is a lot better than zero.

979
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: It just feels weird.

980
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 3: I don't know, not every sport is able to do it.

981
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: It feels watching fights at the Apex is different, but

982
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: still great. Watching you know, a baseball game with just

983
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: cutouts in the audience or this empty ass you know,

984
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 3: stadiums in football.

985
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: God, it feels so bizarre.

986
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 3: It doesn't have the same It doesn't feel like an

987
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: event in the same kind of way. So figuring something

988
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 3: out to solve that problem is key.

989
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to know the rest. Hey, Bob Rights,

990
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: how bizarre?

991
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: Luke?

992
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: If Daniel Snyder called you up tomorrow and said, thank

993
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: you for being a fan all these years. We got

994
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 4: a big game coming up at RFK this weekend. We're

995
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 4: gonna fill the stadium, but it's gonna be outdoors, so

996
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 4: the germs will go out, and we got front.

997
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: Row seats for you, your daughter, your lady, and abuela. Would

998
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: you accept that and wear masks?

999
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: I had literally free passes at a suite to go

1000
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: to last year's Was it last year's eason or two

1001
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: seasons ago when Mark Sanchez was the quarterback for the

1002
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: at the time, the Skins against the New York Giants

1003
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 3: and they were I think the Giants had hung almost

1004
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: forty on them by halftime. My wife and I left

1005
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: at halftime and it was the best thing.

1006
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: We ever did.

1007
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 3: I have that team at some level, if you cheer

1008
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 3: for a team and you watch a sport, it is

1009
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: supposed to bring you joy, right on some level. At

1010
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: some point, it's supposed to be what it's about. They

1011
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: don't bring me joy at all. I can't stand them.

1012
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: I can't stand Dan Snyder. And the sooner he sells

1013
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: that fucking team, the better.

1014
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: Wow. If I bought you at Jason campbell Redskins jersey,

1015
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: would you wear it on the show?

1016
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: I met Jason Campbell. He was a nice guy. All right,

1017
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: So let's do this BC. Those are our big topics

1018
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: to start the show. But a lot of things we

1019
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: say on the show are not correct, and it's time

1020
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: that it's time that we face the music gets start.

1021
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: It's time for dead wrong take it away.

1022
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's time to line us up, get your guns out.

1023
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 4: We are not always right. Sometimes, in fact, we're dead wrong.

1024
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: Bob Barker still breathing. Sorry about that, Bob Luke number

1025
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: one this week. Look, these are the corrections to our

1026
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 4: factual or even opinionated mistakes.

1027
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: We had a discussion how.

1028
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: Small of a modern fighter could go back to UFC

1029
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 4: one in nineteen ninety three and still win the whole tournament.

1030
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 4: One thing we got wrong when remembering our favorite fat

1031
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 4: guys was that Luke. You said Emmanuel Yarborough was in

1032
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 4: UFC one. That is incorrect.

1033
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: It was the other fat guy what's his name? Tied

1034
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: to of USA? What's the guy's name? You know?

1035
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: The other fact gu UFC one had to take.

1036
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: Kicking the teeth by Gerard Goudeau.

1037
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 3: Right, Tila Tequila, Tila.

1038
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: TEKEI yeah, yeah, there you go. All right.

1039
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 4: Look, of course we knew that Luke, we got it wrong.

1040
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 4: But I wanted to have a deeper, dead wrong discussion

1041
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 4: because when we you and I settled on this in

1042
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 4: our debate, we said, look, you can't be too small.

1043
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 4: We said, you thought maybe maybe Alexander Volkanowski could win.

1044
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 4: I thought maybe lightweight or above. And then we had

1045
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 4: people coming at us. Wow, shout out to the flesh

1046
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 4: in that photo. We had a lot of people coming

1047
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 4: at us, Luke saying, man, you guys are crazy. They

1048
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 4: didn't have any skills.

1049
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: Back then.

1050
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 4: Demitrius Johnson could run the table. Look, I think people

1051
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 4: are forgetting this. Could Demitrius Johnson beat most of the

1052
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 4: fat guys they put out there in the first five

1053
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 4: UFC's maybe probably we saw Hoyst Gracie fight Aki Bono

1054
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 4: and it was about jijuits in the end.

1055
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: Right, but there were a couple guys who had skills.

1056
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: Shamrock was juiced to the gills. He knew a little

1057
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: bit about jiu jitsu. He wasn't you know. I mean,

1058
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: you had chemo, you had Hoist seven, had certain levels

1059
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: of skills. I don't think you're just gonna roll out

1060
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 1: a bandam weight or a featherweight, even against limited skilled

1061
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: you know some of the look seventy percent of those guys, Yeah,

1062
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: they're losing.

1063
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 4: Our Jimmerson with one glove, he's losing. But I like

1064
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 4: roided Ken SHAMROCK's chances in a bare knuckle fight against

1065
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 4: any featherweight or bandam weight you can put out.

1066
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 2: There, You're out, You're out of your mind.

1067
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: You do not understand how little they understood about the

1068
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: ground game relative to today.

1069
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 2: It's not even close. It is.

1070
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: It is a toddler reading versus William Buckley Junior. It

1071
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: is not even close, not even close.

1072
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1073
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: The only issue for me is the only issue for

1074
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: me it Ken would do it right now. The only

1075
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 3: issue for me is if you're so small like Yarborough

1076
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 3: wasn't in UFC one. Okay, I got that bart wrong,

1077
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: But like, could Johnson beat him? Well, Johnson could leg

1078
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: kick him because these things were like unlimited time and

1079
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: just keep going and keep going. But like, how do

1080
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 3: you punch that guy if you can't reach his face

1081
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: because he was tall too, it wasn't just a big

1082
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 3: fat guy, And how do you punch him in the

1083
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 3: gut to hurt him? Keith Hackney knocked him down with

1084
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: that over the hand, like overhead ridge hand. You know,

1085
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: I don't know how you do that if you're a

1086
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 3: Demetrius Johnson. That's the only thing from the skills standpoint

1087
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: he can't win.

1088
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: Is that sat is that French karate that's kung.

1089
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: From fighting bitch. What that is? All right? We who

1090
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 2: got that one wrong?

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Speaker 3: But you know, I'm not I agree with the that

1092
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 3: the guys today are just it's so different it's hard

1093
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 3: to even compare her. But there is something to be

1094
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: said for weight classes and how hard it might be

1095
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: to hurt someone. So I think they could probably get

1096
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 3: it done. Max Holloway beat the fuck out of these guys.

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00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: When you start getting smaller than that, it gets a

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00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: bit of an issue.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Ken, sheamrocka wrestle a little bit?

1100
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: Right?

1101
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: Can I reiterate that he was used to the damn gills?

1102
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't know you are?

1103
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: You are not in touch with how much the game

1104
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: has developed.

1105
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: Maybe everyone's juiced and okay, that's what That's what Nick said,

1106
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: all right?

1107
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 4: Number two on Dead Wrong, Luke Carlos Condent lost to

1108
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: Robbie Lawler via split decision at UFC one ninety five.

1109
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: I think this is another clean up on Isle, Luke.

1110
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Speaker 1: Can you explain what you got wrong here?

1111
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: I don't know that I got this one wrong? Did

1112
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: I What did I say? Yeah?

1113
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: Who's producing the show? What did it looked wrong? Here?

1114
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,959
Speaker 2: Did I say what I mean? I said? He lost?

1115
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 2: I didn't say he won.

1116
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a fair I thought Condent should have

1117
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 3: won that fight, right. That was the big intention was

1118
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: when it was over, I was like, you gotta be

1119
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: fucking kidding me.

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Speaker 2: I thought.

1121
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: Slit and the viewers are losing their shit about this?

1122
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 2: Really?

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00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: All right, I'll tell you what.

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00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: You're really dead wrong about this, Luke, because I just

1125
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 4: rewatched this fight two nights ago, heavily drinking, uh, just

1126
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: for entertainment purposes.

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00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: You love this fight, Luke, You should. It's a great

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00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: action fight.

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00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 4: Okay, this fight is not as good though as Lawler McDonald,

1130
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 4: and in fact, while they're both above the line, meaning

1131
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 4: they are a great all time action fights, I actually

1132
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 4: think there's a legitimate.

1133
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: Gap between the two. The fifth round of Lawler Condon

1134
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: is insanity. It's everything we love about MMA. It's not

1135
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: to say that rounds one through four weren't good. Two

1136
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: elite guys, a title fight, this is blood and gouds.

1137
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, Lawler McDonald was just another level

1138
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: of savagery. So the one thing that you're dead wrong,

1139
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: it's a slight. It's a slight dead wrong. Is a

1140
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: really really damn good fight it ain't. It ain't. It

1141
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: ain't in the upper room though, Luke, I'm sorry.

1142
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, there are some key differences, which is that

1143
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 3: this fight was a little bit back and forth, whereas

1144
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 3: McDonald was having long stretches of success against Lawler, and

1145
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: then the firepower and the grit and the frankly, the

1146
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: ferocity eventually overcame McDonald in the end, and that was

1147
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 3: really the key, big difference, whereas this one was just

1148
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 3: two honey badgers, you know, fighting over mating rights.

1149
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: It was just it was just.

1150
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: A melee, and the other one was a more coordinated,

1151
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 3: come from behind assassination. So in that sense, I give

1152
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: the edge to McDonald, but I just can't get over

1153
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 3: two things.

1154
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: One, as you recall.

1155
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 3: That fifth round, there's not many things like Lawler conned

1156
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: it round five and two. To me, yes, it's the

1157
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 3: accumulation of all the damage that they've had, but neither

1158
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 3: recovered from that. That was such an absolute beating on

1159
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 3: either side. They were not the same afterwards, and so

1160
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: it's hard for me to like lose its significance for

1161
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 3: that reason.

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00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: I'll put it right below uh hunt Silva one.

1163
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: I had to is this a true story? About that.

1164
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: I was.

1165
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 3: I was watching it in my living room out here.

1166
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: I am not lying when I tell this to UBC,

1167
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: but I think round four or so, I was watching

1168
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: through my fingers.

1169
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 2: I could.

1170
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: I was screaming.

1171
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 4: I was Adrian now throwing throw the damn towel already,

1172
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 4: Come on, Rockey, you're gonna get Apollo killed.

1173
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

1174
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 4: It was a little nervous nerve wracking there. I heavyweight

1175
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 4: should not go five rounds was my editorial that night.

1176
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 4: Because somebody's gonna die, all right, Luke, our final dead

1177
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 4: wrong here officially here is. On Wednesday show, we talked

1178
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 4: about the Mike Perry idea of putting up uh, you know,

1179
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 4: the idea of whoever pays the highest amount can be

1180
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 4: in my corner. I said that was genius from the

1181
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 4: Platinum One himself, and we got flooded with people saying, bro,

1182
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 4: check out Josh Thompson's podcast. He has a pod with

1183
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 4: with Big John McCarthy. Luke, that's very popular. I want

1184
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 4: to give those guys a shout out a lot of

1185
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 4: people who who love great audio. On Twitter, you typically

1186
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 4: say my two favorite shows Morning Combat and that Big

1187
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 4: John and Josh Thompson show.

1188
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: What do they call it, Luke? What's it called?

1189
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: Is it weighing in or something like that?

1190
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. People send ten to like the Michael

1191
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: Bisping one too. I think some people even liked weighing in. Okay, okay, yeah,

1192
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: people like Brendan Shob too. I forgot about that one too.

1193
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 4: But Luke, it was Josh Thompson that apparently came up

1194
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 4: with this idea.

1195
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: And did he give it to Perry? Did Perry hear

1196
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: it from him? Either way, we were dead wrong on

1197
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: the origin. What we weren't dead wrong about was that

1198
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: it's a badass, great idea, Luke. What would it take

1199
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: to get showtime, to put up the money so that

1200
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: you and I could coach together in Mike's corner? Now,

1201
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: coach Littori. By the way, Satter twenty third birthday, Happy birthday,

1202
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: Miss Gonzales. But imagine you and I wearing morning combat gear. Okay,

1203
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: Venom created morning combat gear.

1204
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 3: You would have to bring the spit bucket with your

1205
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 3: hand through the opening fly the fly hole in your pants.

1206
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 4: I mean good, this is a This would be a

1207
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 4: publicity stop. He would probably have to wear the Rebok gear.

1208
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 4: But if I just zipped the zipper down and just

1209
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: flashed MK out there. All right, It would end with

1210
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 4: Mike Perry savagely killing both of us, but it would

1211
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 4: be it would be a fun ride.

1212
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: It would end with Mike Perry beating probably whatever opponent

1213
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 3: he had and then knocking us the fuck out quite rightly.

1214
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you the key.

1215
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 3: Would be to put your hand through the down your

1216
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: pants opening through the fly hole, and then you would

1217
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 3: hold the water bottle and.

1218
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: When he went the water Yeah, a little bit of bonus.

1219
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: Dead wrong.

1220
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: Look, I don't know where I got this from, but

1221
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: I was wrong.

1222
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 4: Season one, belatour commentary team was John Attick and Jason Chambers, not.

1223
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: With Zuka Joel. Where was I thinking wrong on that?

1224
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: And what do you love about uk Joe?

1225
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: Zuka Joe? It does glory with our friend Todd Grisham.

1226
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, that's right.

1227
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 4: I thought he did both. Do you like Jason Chambers?

1228
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 4: I don't remember that well. That man too well, you know.

1229
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like him. Okay.

1230
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: He used to do one commentary as well, and he

1231
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 3: did Fight Quest with Jimmy Smith.

1232
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: Now over at Sirius xm oh right, all.

1233
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: Right, shout out to one championship. I'm sure that it

1234
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: was the most watched stream in the history of Asia.

1235
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 3: More than I don't know the handover from Hong Kong

1236
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 3: back to the British.

1237
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 4: One day Shatri will cure cancer, Luke, he will win

1238
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 4: a Nobel Prize and I will be there to write

1239
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: the story.

1240
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he won a couple of Nobels this year.

1241
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: I'm not totally certain, but I think one in chemistry

1242
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 3: and then one in international diplomacy. All right, hey, we

1243
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 3: got another a Pulitzer. Excuse me, sorry, no, not Pulitzer.

1244
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 3: I don't even know what fucking award it would be.

1245
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: Are those MMA Awards that that that didn't nominate us

1246
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: for best show ever this year?

1247
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: What's it?

1248
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: What are those called?

1249
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: Are you? Are you bitter about that?

1250
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: What's the name of the awards?

1251
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 2: Show? Again?

1252
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 3: I think it's the Fighters Only World MMA Awards.

1253
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: I think they were nominating shows that aren't even together anymore. Yeah,

1254
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: they missed. Somebody got the score wrong there, Luke. Okay,

1255
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: all right, this is the real right here.

1256
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 3: Let me ask you about dead wrong. It's not only

1257
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: what we get wrong. Can we put someone else for

1258
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 3: being wrong? On blast in this segment.

1259
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: What do you think please?

1260
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, and I know people coming at us.

1261
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: They said Teddy Atlas send us to hell on his

1262
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 4: recent podcast.

1263
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: He didn't, Luke. I listened to it.

1264
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 4: Okay, he just you know, he didn't like the halftime show.

1265
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 4: It didn't mean he didn't like us.

1266
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well he didn't know your name.

1267
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: Well yeah, there was Luke Thomas and the other guy.

1268
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: That's fine, Teddy. You know I used to you know,

1269
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: we we've done live TV together.

1270
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: Teddy.

1271
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: It's fine, it's fine.

1272
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 3: Uh, okay, that's hilarious.

1273
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: All right. With that in mind, that is dead wrong.

1274
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: If you have any other submissions for dead wrong, even

1275
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: if it's from this week or last week or whatever,

1276
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 3: morningcombat at gmail dot com, put dead wrong in the subject.

1277
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 3: That's the place to do it. Morningcombat at gmail dot com.

1278
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah you can. I'm gonna tell you real quick.

1279
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 4: It's gonna be Corey Sanhagen by fourth round submission. So

1280
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 4: if if you losees, please put that in dead wrong.

1281
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 4: But that's that's that's the best bet this week.

1282
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: Luke. Thank very good.

1283
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: There you go, Morning Combat at gmail dot com. You

1284
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 3: could send us an email for any reason you might

1285
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 3: want to send us an email for but for dead wrong,

1286
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 3: that's the place to definitely do it. Okay, BC, we

1287
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: now debut our next segment. It's called just the Tip.

1288
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 3: This is where we give a recommendation to the viewers

1289
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: here on anything could be with they calling it a

1290
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: tip to tip here. We gotta change the name in

1291
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: it just a little bit, but it's fine. At least

1292
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: we have graphics. I'll take those instead of having no graphics.

1293
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: This is kind of like the kitchen on on Friday.

1294
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: Remember ice Cube came in. He's like, man, you guys

1295
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: always have like peanut butter but no jelly. You got

1296
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: milk but no cereal. There's always something a little bit

1297
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: off on MK. Maybe that's you know what I'm saying,

1298
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: Like Jay's really talented, but he's also a weird dude.

1299
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: There's always something off.

1300
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, all right, So with just the Tip, it's

1301
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 3: a recommendation for anything could be fight related, not fight related, movies, music, whatever,

1302
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 3: just something that you would like to impart to the viewers. BC,

1303
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 3: you go first.

1304
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: Please, I'm hearing an echo, guys, you mind please me

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Speaker 1: live live show here, live TV, Internet TV in the future.

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Speaker 4: Look my just the tip is this week it's gonna

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00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 4: be pro wrestling, and I know that Luke doesn't want

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00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 4: to hear that shit, and I'm gonna be really honest

1309
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 4: with you. In twenty twenty, I've about had it with

1310
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 4: pro wrestling. It coincided with my role at CBS Sports

1311
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 4: kind of changing, where now I'm focusing exclusively on MMA

1312
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 4: and boxing and not pro wrestling. It also coincided with

1313
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 4: quarantine pro wrestling just being crap outside of the cool

1314
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 4: stuff AW has done, the empty Arena, I'm just not

1315
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 4: feeling it. And oh, by the way, it's coincided with

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00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 4: the last two years of w W storytelling on the

1317
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 4: main roster just going to shit. But something has changed

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00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 4: that has brought even me out of retirement.

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Speaker 1: And if you are an ex wrestling fan or even

1320
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: somebody like Luke who hates it, this is gonna be

1321
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: enough to wake you up. WWE has finally dialed in

1322
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: on the storyline that could really define this era and

1323
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: open up.

1324
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 4: A new set of goodwill and ratings and all that.

1325
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 4: It's not that everything sucks lately. The whole Bray White

1326
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 4: the Fiend stuff has been great, but Roman Rains is

1327
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 4: heal Finally, Roman reigns the ww Goldenchild John Cena, who

1328
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 4: everybody loves but booze because they're just sick of it.

1329
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 4: Just make him a bad gull already he's a badass,

1330
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 4: Let him be bad boy.

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00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: They have done that in a big way. They brought

1332
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: on Paul Hayman to be his advisor.

1333
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 4: Could you get any more of a pro wrestling endorsement

1334
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 4: than that brock Lesner's guy. They allowed him to take

1335
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 4: off the chest protector and actually flaunt how jacked and

1336
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 4: ripped and how much of a badass he is. And

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00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 4: number three, and most importantly, they have inserted old school

1338
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 4: storytelling by allowing him to feud with his real life

1339
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 4: cousin Jay Usso doing the whole say it to my face,

1340
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 4: say my name, I'm the chief of the tribe, and

1341
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 4: they've had some brutal matches.

1342
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: The feud is ongoing.

1343
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 4: And I don't mean to tip the hand here, but

1344
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 4: if you like wrestling and you know how these things go,

1345
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 4: it's not out of line that this program ends in

1346
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: some kind of WrestleMania match. Roman reigns again The Rock Yes,

1347
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 4: Dwayne Johnson, that level of come out of retirement for

1348
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 4: one more big dance and do the real passing of

1349
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 4: the torch just like the Rock got from Hulk Hogan

1350
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 4: in two thousand and two at WrestleMania eighteen, and just

1351
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 4: like would be ultimately perfect and needed here. Luke, again,

1352
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 4: I don't care where you stand on this. If there's

1353
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 4: a possibility that The Rock comes back in a real

1354
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 4: WrestleMania match against Heel Roman reigns his cousin in an

1355
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 4: all sort of Samoan Pride type of blood war.

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Speaker 1: This is good shit. This is why we watch. This

1357
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: is why grown men still get into this soap opera.

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00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 4: I love where this is going, and it's kind of

1359
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 4: bringing me back in, Luke, go ahead, crap on it.

1360
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: But these Samoan men are showing us the.

1361
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 4: Blood and guts we deserve as wrestling fans, and not

1362
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 4: this regular weekly bullshit.

1363
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 3: I always love it when people defend pro wrestling by

1364
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 3: saying it's like soap opera for men.

1365
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: Yo.

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00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 3: You know, soap operas suck ass, right, Like they're not

1367
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: good just because they're designed for wins.

1368
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: They're trash for them too.

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00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: I like action movies, Luke. What's the difference between Commando

1370
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: and WrestleMania Okay, Now, look, I'm not gonna defend WWE.

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00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: They screw up a lot. Aw's great, NXT's pretty much

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00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: always great. I know that's WWE. But Luke, I get it.

1373
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: If you're just predisposed to never love it, then you

1374
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: never will. You didn't grow up with it? Is this

1375
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: true in the in the eighties?

1376
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: I like every kid, No, every kid in the eighties

1377
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 3: watched HAULK Cogan and Ultimate Warrior and all that. I

1378
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 3: watched a little bit of it.

1379
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 4: Sure did you watch the nWo with WW in the

1380
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 4: in the mid to late nineties when we were entering

1381
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 4: our own sort of rebellious years, Luke, and these people

1382
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 4: are like fu society and then Steve Austin becomes this

1383
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 4: bad guy good guy for w W, and then look,

1384
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 4: it's the greatest era of all time.

1385
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: You didn't live the Monday Night Wars, Luke? Is this

1386
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: what you're saying?

1387
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1388
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: Or were you reading books competing in athlete challenges?

1389
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 3: I bet I had more girlfriends.

1390
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: I can tell you that.

1391
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, wrestling, fandomb and sex usually go hand in hand.

1392
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: Actually they do go hand in hand typically just not

1393
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: with anybody else. But Luke.

1394
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is this, there are storylines every couple

1395
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 4: of years, the Holgan Savage well Mega Powers explode, the

1396
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 4: greatest story ever told.

1397
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: Them pro wrestling. Right, I think Hogan was secretly you

1398
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: know that's that's the hook of that story, right. I

1399
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: don't think Randy was wrong.

1400
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 4: Sometimes there are storylines that are so real and simple

1401
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 4: and basic that they just freaking work.

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01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: This rains one has that potential.

1403
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna end it there because all you're gonna do

1404
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 4: is speak speak ill, all.

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01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 3: Right, I'm just dying for you to finish because I

1406
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: absolutely do not care.

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01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: All right, show me your tip, but just the tip please.

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01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 2: All right.

1409
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 3: So for mine, I'll make mine very short and sweet

1410
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 3: a lot. I was a die for a movie to watch.

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01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 3: As you guys know, the movie industry is in peril.

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01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 3: They're closing regal cinemas in both the UK and the

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01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 3: United States, which is absolutely terrible, and so it's just

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01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 3: hard to like, they're not releasing as many movies anymore.

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01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: And so I was like, you know, what's a movie

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01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 3: I've not seen that maybe I could go back and

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01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 3: get a chance to revisit. And I had it some

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01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 3: time the other day, and Rotten Tomatoes has a section

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01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: on like you know, like Hidden Gems on Hulu, Undiscovered

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01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 3: Greats on Amazon Prime, and so it depends on necessarily

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01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 3: where you know you have your subscription service. But I

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01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 3: think it was mine was for Prime and it was

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01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 3: a movie.

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01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: That I had missed.

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01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 3: I don't know how I had missed it from twenty twelve,

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01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 3: by the way, distributed by CBS Films. But that's not

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01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: why I'm bringing it up. It's called seven, It's called

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01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 3: Seven Psychopaths. It stars Woody Harrelson, Christopher Walkin, Sam Rockwell,

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01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 3: Colin Ferrell. Now I'm gonna tell you the truth. I

1430
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 3: would not give this movie an A rating. I'd give

1431
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 3: it a BB plus. It doesn't deserve to be held

1432
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: up there as like this, oh my God movie. But

1433
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 3: here's what it does have. Number One, Sam Rockwell, who

1434
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 3: also plays the lawyer in that Richard Jewel movie that

1435
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 3: came out I think either during or just before the pandemic.

1436
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 3: He's phenomenal. He's been in a million movies. He is

1437
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 3: one of the.

1438
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: Most underrated actors I've ever seen.

1439
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 3: Colin Ferrell might be handsome, but he can act his

1440
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 3: ass off to Woody Harrelson, need I say more? Christopher

1441
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 3: Walkin need I say more? He is unbelievable in this. Okay,

1442
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 3: and more to the point, I need a movie that

1443
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 3: when I turn it on, I don't need action right

1444
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 3: from the word go. I don't need any of that.

1445
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,919
Speaker 3: But you gotta hook me one way or the other.

1446
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: You gotta hook me.

1447
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 3: Well, ladies and gentlemen, you want to talk about a

1448
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 3: hook from an opening scene, they get it.

1449
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 2: It is dark.

1450
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: Comedy, it is bloody, it's hilarious, it's dark, it's irreverent,

1451
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 3: it's weird, it's interesting. It's not a plus, but it

1452
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 3: is definitely worth your time if you've never seen it.

1453
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: If for nothing else we see than the strength of

1454
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 3: the cast alone will amazing.

1455
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: Incredible ensemble. I have quick questions for you.

1456
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 2: What year it was the movie? I think twenty twelve.

1457
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: Okay, give me a sixty second plot, please, with no spoilers.

1458
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 3: Troubled film writer Colin Ferrell is trying to write a

1459
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 3: movie and he has already come up with a title

1460
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 3: called Seven Psychopaths, and he can't quite finish it, and

1461
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 3: his friend tries to help him. Sam Rockwell tries to

1462
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 3: help him finish it. I can't say much more than

1463
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 3: that except the lengths that he goes to to make

1464
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 3: the film written are out of this world.

1465
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 4: All right, all right, you sold me, You sold me.

1466
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 4: You know the name power sells me. You've never you've

1467
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 4: yet to steer me wrong in a movie.

1468
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: You got me to watch Parasite in the theater, Luke,

1469
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: all right, you know what I mean.

1470
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: I was learning you on some good Korean cinema.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I haven't watched that war movie you said yet,

1472
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: but I will and let us Okay, is there any

1473
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: any any uh, I'll watch it. I'll watch it and

1474
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: get back to you. Thank you for the tip, Luke.

1475
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: Than you definitely will not hate that. And then there's

1476
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: my tip for you.

1477
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 3: Okay, b see last but not least, every Friday we

1478
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 3: do our review segment.

1479
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: It could be again, any kind of thing.

1480
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 3: It's just something that we have to go back and

1481
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 3: look and see if we can appreciate again or maybe not.

1482
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 3: You had a sign to everyone, including me, including the audience.

1483
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 3: Naseem Hamed's Fight Again, Kevin Kelly, HBO Sports, HBO Boxing,

1484
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven. Let's go let me set the stage.

1485
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 4: So let me set the stage New York's Madison Square

1486
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 4: Garden the US debut of Prince Nasim Hahmed, who Luke

1487
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 4: had the WBO featherweight title, had taken boxing by storm

1488
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 4: to a degree.

1489
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: But you know how it works.

1490
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 4: You're really nothing until you can do it in the US,

1491
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 4: and you can do it at MSG. Prince twenty eight

1492
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 4: and oh coming in with twenty six KOs. This was

1493
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 4: December nineteenth, nineteen ninety seven.

1494
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: And why I love this fight was because the baranchics

1495
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: of Paida with all the knockdowns reminded me a lot

1496
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: of this fight. But this is mountaintop of who Prince

1497
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: Nasim was.

1498
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,479
Speaker 4: And you made a great point of reference last week

1499
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 4: about you see so much McGregor in this character that

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01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 4: predated him by two decades, and it makes a lot

1501
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 4: of sense where they're both from this badass Prince Nasim,

1502
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 4: this was the time in his career going against a

1503
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 4: Kevin Kelly who has Larry Merchant sid on the broadcas

1504
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 4: may have been just turning the corner out of his prime,

1505
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 4: but only had one loss, had a six inch reach

1506
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 4: advantage over Hahmed was a former champion, had a great jab,

1507
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 4: had big time power and was all New York all

1508
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 4: the time, the flushing flash.

1509
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: This was supposed to be that test.

1510
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 4: Hahmed can do it against all these British jobbers, but

1511
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 4: can you do it in the States and a big

1512
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,959
Speaker 4: platform against a tough ass out.

1513
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: Can you be that guy? Luke?

1514
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 4: I live for these type of show me moments in sports,

1515
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 4: especially with people as bold and flashy as Hahmed. For

1516
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 4: him to come in and get dropped twice kind of

1517
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 4: what Zepeida went through and be down on the cards

1518
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 4: right away and have to make this a fight. This

1519
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 4: is what it's all about. You had a chance to

1520
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 4: sit down and watch it. I hope you watched the

1521
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 4: twenty plus minute Haamed entrance.

1522
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: Give me some thoughts, Luke.

1523
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: All right, so there's a lot there.

1524
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 3: I will look at it on YouTube, and initially I

1525
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 3: just found the fight itself and the video had like

1526
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 3: half a million views, and then I saw in the

1527
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 3: corner like recommended, you know YouTube does that, and there

1528
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 3: was another one had like a million.

1529
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: Or two views, and like so I clicked on it

1530
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: and it had the original HBO boxing.

1531
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 3: Like prelude package where they go to where he's from,

1532
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 3: they show you the store that his parents ran and

1533
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 3: he lived above. Why he was so popular he's a

1534
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 3: Yemeny brit and why he was so popular in his

1535
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 3: home country, why he was so popular in the UK.

1536
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: I would consider Yemen in you know.

1537
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 3: UK both and you know, talking about how he like

1538
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 3: they made one of the writers made a great point.

1539
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: They were like, this is not a guy who comes

1540
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 3: from generations you know of people who made it or

1541
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 3: you know the one or two removed.

1542
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 2: You know, one generation ago.

1543
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 3: These were working class or you know, just slightly above

1544
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 3: working class folks, like these were people who did not

1545
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 3: necessarily have a whole lot.

1546
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 2: In immigrant story, and he made it and turned it

1547
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: just like that.

1548
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 3: That was like McGregor and the absolute ease with which

1549
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 3: when the spotlight was on, that was when he was

1550
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 3: at his best. And he was so good at making

1551
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 3: his fans love him and making his enemies go crazy.

1552
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 3: And to your point, there is this moment where he's

1553
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 3: walking out for the fight against Kelly, and he's standing

1554
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 3: behind this like white diffusion sheet so you can see

1555
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 3: his shadow, and he just dances behind it for like

1556
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 3: ten minutes and literally at one point, I'm not making

1557
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 3: this up, Larry Merchant, uh No, excuse me. Yeah, Larry

1558
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: Merchant was on.

1559
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: This.

1560
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 3: Okay, on the broadcast, he was joking, but he is

1561
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 3: watching this all go down, this like arrogant, brash, you know,

1562
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 3: amazing guy who's not a prince but calls himself that

1563
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 3: dancing behind this diffusion sheet and says, this is the

1564
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 3: end of Western civilization as we know it. No one

1565
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 3: has ever been cooler ever in their lives than Hamed

1566
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 3: was at that moment. And the reason why is because

1567
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 3: you had an old guy mad at a young guy

1568
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 3: for doing young guy shit. That is the absolute key

1569
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 3: to know some one is cool. How much is he

1570
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 3: pissing off old people?

1571
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 2: And he did it.

1572
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: To the Larry also said. Larry also said Hahmed said

1573
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: he has music playing in his head at all times.

1574
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. I mean he had

1575
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: many of he had many of those. But look, let's

1576
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: pause right here.

1577
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 4: I mean, people know, I get mad at like a

1578
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 4: Michelle Paeda who comes out and dances and gases himself

1579
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 4: out and then is just trying to do flashy shit.

1580
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 4: The difference is that Hahmed was always walking the tightrope

1581
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 4: and his intention was to knock you out, so that entrance,

1582
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 4: the nerve to dance for ten full minutes while your

1583
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 4: opponent in his home city is in the ring, so

1584
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 4: angry and pissed off.

1585
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: And by the way, the backstory of this where.

1586
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 4: Kelly refused to do any media ahead of the broad

1587
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 4: ahead of the fight because he was so pissed that

1588
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 4: he knew Hahmed was gonna take over and steal the show.

1589
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 4: He even trained at an undisclosed location, like it was

1590
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 4: like so like old school angry, I'm gonna show you.

1591
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: Hahmed made him wait forever and then he's sauntering in

1592
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: he does the flip over the top. Luke, they almost

1593
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 1: got into like five fistfights during the announcements alone. They

1594
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: were constantly going jonnage. I mean it was just that

1595
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: is the most. That is arrogance, like one thousand, that

1596
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: is the most, Like McGregor hasn't done anything as arrogant

1597
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: as that. And and the fact that Ahmed pulled this

1598
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: off consistently, and oh, by the way, go back to

1599
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: like pro debut, he was still.

1600
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 4: Doing the stuff back then. This is just a guy,

1601
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 4: Luke who just believes in his stuff on an otherworldly level.

1602
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 4: And when you have the power to back that up,

1603
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 4: which he did.

1604
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: You can do that. It didn't take long before this

1605
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: became bombs away, Luke. This is a great fight.

1606
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 3: It was a great matchup too, And you're right, Kelly.

1607
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 3: So Hahmed would do a front flip over the top

1608
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 3: rope to get into the ring. That was a special

1609
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 3: entrance and he does it. And the commission at the

1610
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 3: time was a little bit more lenient. They let guys

1611
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 3: get in each other's faces. So they're like, like as

1612
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 3: the music is still playing, as all the folks are

1613
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 3: getting into the ring, for all the announcements, they're right

1614
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 3: there jawing at each other in front. And you can

1615
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 3: tell Kelly was just irate. And even before Hamed had

1616
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 3: even gotten too the ring, He's pacing back and forth

1617
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 3: and not like normally pacing back and forth, like verbally

1618
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 3: shouting like.

1619
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 2: Get out of here, come on, what the fuck? Come

1620
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 2: do this?

1621
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 3: I mean, Hahmed was arrogant, but he weaponized it to

1622
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 3: the most unbelievable degree in this fight.

1623
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 2: Really fantastic stuff. And you're right.

1624
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 3: Once the fight got started, you know, Kelly kind of

1625
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 3: put it on him for long stretches of this fight.

1626
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 2: Great jab with his right.

1627
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: Hand, Hamed walked.

1628
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 4: Him down on the corner early. Yeah, Kelly threw that

1629
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 4: looping right hand that dropped him. I remember watching this

1630
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 4: fight live on HBO when it happened and thinking, holy crap,

1631
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 4: the Prince is a fraud. He just got I mean

1632
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 4: that was like a fight ending punch. Luken now seem

1633
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 4: jumped right back up.

1634
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal, if memory serves, did it, Hahmed

1635
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 3: get dropped twice before Kelly he got dropped. I think

1636
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 3: that's right. I think he got dropped a couple times.

1637
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself, Wow, dude, Kelly. I mean, you know,

1638
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 3: I was trying to relive the moment Kelly's gonna do this.

1639
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 2: That was the feeling.

1640
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 3: You got, the feeling like, okay, all that showmanship. I mean,

1641
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 3: he blew up this balloon and blew up this balloon

1642
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 3: and here comes Kelly with a needle Ah to pop it.

1643
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,919
Speaker 3: But the thing they indicated both in the prelude package

1644
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 3: and in the fight, you saw it yourself. For all

1645
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 3: of the unorthodox and maybe questionable ways in which Hamed

1646
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 3: would box, the one thing that saved him, because he

1647
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 3: also had very low output from a volume standpoint, The

1648
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 3: one thing that saved him was he had absolutely crippling

1649
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 3: shocking power. If he landed on you, it was over.

1650
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 3: And George Foreman, who I believe was one of the

1651
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 3: commentators for this along with Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant,

1652
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 3: noted that a lot of times when Ahmed would get

1653
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 3: knocked down, he get hit with a nice shot, but

1654
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 3: he'd be a little bit off balance. When Kelly got

1655
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 3: knocked down, he just got knocked down from a super

1656
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 3: hard punch that landed clean, and that it would turn

1657
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: out BC would be the difference in the end.

1658
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 4: Jhmed had all time great power for this weight class.

1659
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 4: He had a star value that Luke. This opened the

1660
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,879
Speaker 4: doors again for boxing at that time to feature fighters

1661
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 4: of this size in a marquee level like this. Hahmed

1662
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 4: selling out the garden, the big room and doing it

1663
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 4: on a big plan. I mean, that's that was so

1664
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 4: big for that weight class, Luke. It's no surprise that

1665
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 4: even though Hamed exited the scene fairly quickly after this win,

1666
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 4: because he finally got solved by Marco Antonio Barrera and

1667
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 4: sort of just you know, the fight, the invincibility of

1668
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 4: the fight, the smark was extinguished and he was never

1669
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 4: the same and he kind of walked away.

1670
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: But this opened the door for that Barrera.

1671
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:40,440
Speaker 4: Morales, Pacquiao, Juan Manuel Marquez, golden era of the featherweights

1672
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 4: to be you know, pay per view headliners, to be

1673
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 4: front and center. He certainly opened that door. But Luke,

1674
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 4: while he was a contemporary of Roy Jones and Roy

1675
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 4: Jones because of his athleticism, was so over the top,

1676
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 4: could make mistakes on purpose, could do things that were

1677
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 4: dangerously on orthodox because he had this skill to back

1678
01:12:58,720 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 4: it up.

1679
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: Even didn't take the chances.

1680
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 4: Hahmed did Luke backing up with your chin straight up,

1681
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, squaring up. I mean the he's

1682
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 4: dancing as he's fighting. There's really been no one like

1683
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 4: him at this level. And to see this fight where

1684
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 4: he's down two knockdowns early and he just starts building

1685
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 4: it back with big shots, and you could see the

1686
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 4: fight be leaking out of Kelly with each knockdown that

1687
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 4: happened afterwards, like just you know, he's still game, He's

1688
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 4: getting back up with that power caught up with him

1689
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 4: quick and by round four we saw that at that.

1690
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 3: Finish And the other thing I'd say is you're trying

1691
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 3: to understand for folks who may have skipped it or

1692
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 3: you're gonna see it based on the conversation we're having now,

1693
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,839
Speaker 3: which I cannot recommend enough again with the HBO Prelude

1694
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 3: package if you can find it, it.

1695
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:38,919
Speaker 2: Is on YouTube.

1696
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 3: Is imagine if one fighter BC did all of the

1697
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 3: showboating that Costa did against Adasania, all the show voting

1698
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 3: Atasanya did against Costa, and then washed it all down

1699
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 3: with a McGregor proper twelve performance. I mean, it's kind

1700
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 3: of like that. It's like every different way you could

1701
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 3: slice dancing arrogance, an advised arrogance in terms of fight strategy,

1702
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 3: no selling the whole bit. Even after getting knocked out,

1703
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 3: he got a little bit more conservative in the third

1704
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 3: round being down, I think a little bit, but then

1705
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 3: the fourth round picked it right back up and then

1706
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 3: absolutely hammered, hammered Kelly.

1707
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 2: Kelly did that.

1708
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 3: Kelly landed on like his sort of side slash shoulder.

1709
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: Like you know, and look, just a great call by

1710
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 1: George Foreman of the Princes for real, and I think, look,

1711
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: this fight is also a tour de force at what

1712
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: made Forman a great analyst?

1713
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,879
Speaker 4: Luke, there's been a lot of great fighters turned analysts.

1714
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 4: Former Showtime guy Pauli Malnauji was one of the best.

1715
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 4: Andre Ward's great I like me some Tim Bradley, Roy

1716
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 4: Jones all that I always thought George Foreman was the best,

1717
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 4: and I think that this fight was certainly a great

1718
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 4: encapsulation of that.

1719
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 1: Luke one to ten is this art? Are we are?

1720
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: Is our r?

1721
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 1: What's your score on this?

1722
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: For me?

1723
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 3: The third round was a little bit I'm not gonna

1724
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 3: say boring, but it couldn't quite sustain everything that I

1725
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 3: thought that Zappeida Baranchick had in terms of the back

1726
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 3: and forth. So for that reason, I'm going to give

1727
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 3: it a nine point two, which for me, I understand,

1728
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 3: I'm stingy, I'm miserly. That's a very good score for me.

1729
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go hardly ever higher than this.

1730
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 3: I really really had a good time revisiting it. I

1731
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 3: thought HBO did such a great job hyping it and BC.

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01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 3: The last thing I'd say about it is this is

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Speaker 3: not a fight you can do in a pandemic era.

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Speaker 3: I mean, part of what Hahmed did was fight another man,

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Speaker 3: but he fought another man almost on behalf of the

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Speaker 3: audience or in spite of them. He was negotiating with

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Speaker 3: many different factors at once. Just having him fight it

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01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 3: would have been exciting if they had put it in,

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Speaker 3: you know, a nineteen ninety seven version of the HBO

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Speaker 3: Apex facility or something, it still would have been good,

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01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 3: but it wouldn't have been what it was. That was

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Speaker 3: one where the fans were absolutely crucial, whether they were doing,

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Speaker 3: whether they were cheering.

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Speaker 4: And the comparison to McGregor is so apt here because

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01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 4: this was the biggest fight and really the mountaintop moment

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Speaker 4: of his career. I know, the loss to Barrera on

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01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 4: pay per view was let's say, a bigger fight, a

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Speaker 4: bigger event, and he lost that fight. He was never

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01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 4: the same. And oh, by the way, remember Marco Antonio

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01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 4: Burrow took Nasimhmed's head on the last round and banged

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01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 4: it into the corner turnbuckle like it was pro wrestling.

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Speaker 4: But Luke even entering this fight, as we mentioned, it

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01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 4: was no different than McGregor against Mendus against Aldo, where

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01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 4: you're like, okay, he won those fights, but right people

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01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,879
Speaker 4: were saying that, you know, the Prince is just flashy,

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01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 4: But this was the fight. He made everyone a believer.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna give it an eight point nine, which may

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01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 4: seem a little bit low, but it was only four rounds.

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Speaker 4: And even though we look back at it as a

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Speaker 4: war because of the knockdowns, there's moments where it's a

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Speaker 4: little more selective entertainment wise.

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Speaker 1: It's through the roof. I love it. It's one of

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01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: my favorite fights ever to close. I can't express this enough.

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Speaker 4: Luke in the late nineties and you saw Nas wearing

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01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 4: the towel over his head a lah Mike Tyson. There

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Speaker 4: was a short run there where Nas was a he

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01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 4: was almost bigger than boxing. There was a short like look.

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01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 4: He wasn't Tyson or holy Field, but there was a

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01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 4: short run there where it didn't matter who he was fighting.

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Speaker 4: Non boxing fans would always call me. I'd be like

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01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 4: dude on stage Fielder say okay, we gotta be there.

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01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 4: We got you know, we out of why it doesn't

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01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 4: matter who. When you get to that level, right, that

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01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 4: sort of Bo Jackson level and that sort of fame level,

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01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 4: it was insane. He didn't last long there, but it

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01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 4: was a special run.

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Speaker 2: Last thing on this before we end this conversation.

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Speaker 3: I do think I'd like to go back to the

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01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 3: McGregor comparison because it's kind of how we got started

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01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 3: on this whole thing. Would it be fair to say

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Speaker 3: McGregor is some kind of Mma combination between Floyd Mayweather

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01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 3: in terms of like the ambition, how big you want

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01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 3: to be for the game, casting your shadow over it,

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01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 3: with the theatrics of Prince Nasim Hahmed.

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Speaker 2: Is he a mix of those two in your mind?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, everybody's an influence of somebody else. You like

1787
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 4: hul Cogan stick go watch Superstar.

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01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: Billy Graham and Pro Wrestling. You'll see how much he

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01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: stole from that.

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Speaker 4: I always thought that Floyd was a sort of mixture

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01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 4: of Nasim Hahmed's brashness with Floyd's mind and marketability. There's

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01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 4: obviously a little bit of Ali in there too, in

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01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 4: the in the style of trash talk that McGregor uses.

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Speaker 1: But look, you see the influences watching this fight.

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Speaker 4: You know he's a creation of all of his idols

1796
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:56,520
Speaker 4: before him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever the case, if there is an air to

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01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 3: the own of Prince Nasim in terms of the things

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01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 3: that he brought to the fight game, I mean, Prince

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Speaker 3: nasimha Met himself will tell you it's Connor McGregor. There's

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01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 3: a famous clip out there where he says, you know,

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01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 3: I'm not paying attention too much to what's happening in

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01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 3: boxing these days, but there's this Irish guy out there.

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01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,839
Speaker 3: This is years ago. Its gy Connor McGregor. He has everything.

1805
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 3: That's the one you want to pay attention to. And

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01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 3: you know, to see where Connor came from in terms

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Speaker 3: of maybe his influences being from the UK, but Ireland

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Speaker 3: next to it. I bet Prince nasiem Haamd played a

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Speaker 3: big role just the same great show BC.

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Speaker 1: Say again, how big were his balls, Luke just to

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Speaker 1: close walls.

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Speaker 2: They were like hippie hops. He could have hippie hops.

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Speaker 4: After watching that, I want to live my hippie hops, well,

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01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 4: I want to live my life with balls as big

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01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 4: as how Mad had back then.

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Speaker 2: Okay, no doubt about it. Brass Ones too. Uh.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say, I don't want to like casta, you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to jinx at knock on Wood. We

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Speaker 3: have been on such a great run since we went

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Speaker 3: full time in terms of some of the numbers on

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Speaker 3: this channel, and I'm really delighted to see it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously all the credit goes to you for dissected

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Speaker 4: in your live chat and.

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Speaker 1: Bringing your large audience with you, Luke, But hopefully I

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Speaker 1: could sprinkle in some some dong jokes once in a while.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, look, your.

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Speaker 3: Podcast got like what two and a half K? I

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Speaker 1: Well it's look, it's for the hardcorees only. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: the deal.

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Speaker 4: If you want to take my shirt off to raise

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Speaker 4: it up to five K, I will, uh, Luke. At

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Speaker 1: Support us.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: I got I got something for Monday.

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Speaker 4: I got to show you we got even fans in

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Speaker 4: I don't know how they did it, but they've got

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Speaker 4: they're you know, people are just going above and beyond.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy your weekend and until next time, may all of

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