WEBVTT - #222 - G Herbo 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.880 Buleg Camp show. We got a special guest in the building. 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:08.280 Survivors Remorse comes out Friday. Yes, Sir, g Herbo, my guy, 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:11.960 my brother, my brother, Good to see you man always likewise, 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:17.759 Survivor's Remorse is. Ah, that's a deep title, man, And 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:19.560 it's something that a lot of people go through. You 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.360 know when you come from certain backgrounds and you know, 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:23.760 you learn, you learn or you lose people in your 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:26.200 life to the streets to other things, like kind of 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:28.240 dive into let's just kick it off, man, dive into 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:33.720 Survivor's Remorse, Bro, Survivors Remorse. Man for me is you know, 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:38.199 it's it's deeper than just the album title. Is where 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:39.879 I am mentally in my life, you know what I'm 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:44.559 saying as a man having overcame so much adversity and like, 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:50.720 Bro's crazy because my circumstances when I first started rapping. 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.280 Let me just go back to in general, when I 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.240 first started rapping, when I first made my first ever rap, 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:00.160 how it wasn't trying to I was the first time 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.000 I made a rap, like on some shit. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:10.319 they'll herb shit. Fifteen fifteen years old, Okay, probably fourteen 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.759 fourteen going on fifteen or something like that. I was fourteen, 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.080 a freshman of high school, you like fourteen or fifteen. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.800 And when I did that, I wasn't trying to like 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.480 become a rapper like my dreams and aspirations was never 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:26.880 to become a rapper, like I want to become this 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.839 big superstar and nothing like that. I was rapping trying 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.520 to like put on for my hood, be the voice 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.119 for my neighborhood, you know what I'm saying, and talk 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.000 about what I was feeling, what I was going through, 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.040 Like I wasn't. I didn't know what a manager was, 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.280 an A and I record label. I didn't know what 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.520 none of that was. Bro I didn't know anything about 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:48.200 that for me. Like I just was recording the song 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.240 on my on my flip phone over a YouTube beat 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:52.960 and I sent it to my homies for them to hear. 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.560 You know what I'm saying. It just picked up naturally, 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.960 you know, And I still wasn't. It didn't grasp me, 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.400 you know what I'm saying. I'm saying to say, like me, 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.360 you're a kid. I was a kid, you feel me. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.760 And when I started to become a rapper, I was 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.560 still a kid, you know. So survivors of morese for 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:16.040 me is coming from that being in the most dangerous neighborhood, 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:17.720 you know what I'm saying, one of the most dangerous 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.920 neighborhoods in Chicago, and just trying to find a way 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.480 to get my thoughts out. You know what I'm saying. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:24.960 I always knew how to rap. It was just a 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.160 way for me to like express what I'm going through 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:28.760 in the hood and for my homies to hear it, 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.480 to relate to it, you know what I'm saying. And 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.040 to have that and turn it into this and to 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:42.640 be able to overcome death, prison, drug addiction like that, 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.480 all of these things and beat g herbal today be 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.920 who I am today, you know what I'm saying, And 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.919 that's what being a survivor is for me. You know 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.160 what I'm saying. I survived my circumstance. I don't never 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.320 have to go back to living that way. You feel 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.760 what I'm saying. And the remorse side of it is 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.000 everything I lost along the way. You know a lot 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:07.760 of my best friends, my brother, just so much, you know, 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:11.040 just in the thought of so many people that I 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.440 love that I actually care about. Still being in poverty, 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.520 still being under these circumstances, you know what I'm saying, 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.920 and me wanting to help them, Me wanting to show 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.520 them this other side of life because I've experienced it, 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.080 and understanding that you can't do that for everybody, understanding 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.600 that everybody not gonna want that for themselves, you know. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.000 And it's a constant battle, you feel what I'm saying, 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:37.240 like I have to to smile and be charismatic and 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.480 do interviews a leader as be a leader, you know 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.440 what I'm saying, be a role model for so many 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.880 people that look up to me. And I don't get 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.120 a chance to really just sit back and reflect on 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.640 life or sit back and just you know, feed my 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.160 mental stability, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, and 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.000 grieve or whatever the case may be. You know what 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.280 I'm saying, I can't really have a bad day all day. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.200 It's no such thing as me really being mad all day. 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.280 I've never experienced it for real. You don't have the luxury. 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.360 I don't have the luxury to just be pissed off 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.360 all day or be sad all day. I don't have that. 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:09.200 So that's the remorse side of it, you know what 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.720 I'm saying, And that's crazy, and I'm blessed to just 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.200 be the type of person where I'm not even that 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.120 kind of guy, Like, no matter what I'm going through 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.320 or how I'm feeling, I'm not gonna ever be mad, 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.680 upset all day, angry all day. I don't even understand 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.440 how that's possible, right, But people really like that. People 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.279 really walk around mad, sad, angry all day because of 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.679 what they going through. And I just know I'm blessed 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:33.160 no matter what it is. I don't give a fuck 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.880 if I was dead broke. I've experienced enough life to 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.240 know that I'm blessed no matter what. I'm alive, my 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.359 kid is good, whatever the fuck the case may be. 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.840 You know what I'm saying. So that's survivals of Morse 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.400 to me. You know just why I am mentally, you 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:49.640 know what I'm saying, just trying to create balance for myself. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.320 You feel me, because at the end of the day, 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.640 you don't really change. I'm still that same person. And 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.839 it's probably the deepest explanation that I've given about the title. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.440 You know what I'm saying because I'm still same person. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.560 I'm still that same kid from say knife essence. You 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.960 feel me, but I'm gee herbal, I'm a father, I'm 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:11.159 a leader, I'm a philanthropist. I'm so many things where 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.919 I can't really dwell on one moment. I just gotta 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:18.200 keep on trying to get better and better. That's survivor's immorse. 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.240 You know what I'm saying. I just gotta you know, 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.640 keep a level playing field. Would you say that when 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:27.599 you get into those mind states where you're very like, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.000 you start thinking about shit like that, do you look 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.720 to your kids? It's like the number one way push through. 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.440 That's my number one outlet. Yeah, other than like the 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.160 studio and you know what I'm saying, just having fun 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.080 with the people. I love my family, you know what 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.320 I'm saying. My girl and shit like that, Like that's 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.279 the only piece that I really have. You feel me 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.800 when it's smiles, happiness. I don't like argument. I don't 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:56.680 like confrontation because I can't, you know, balance my emotions. 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.119 I have to keep my emotions bottled in one place. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.120 So I don't like confrontation. I don't like to, especially 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:04.960 with people that I care about, because I don't want 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.440 to release that angle on Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:11.080 So my only like pure form of like pieces being 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.680 on my kids at all bro like period. That's the 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.440 only time I could think about nothing in the world 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.240 and nothing else matter anger around my kids. All they 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.720 want to do is playing. It's mad, right right, right right? Yeah? 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.560 And you have your lot like you're living for them now. 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.480 You know what I'm saying, not just yourself, do you? Uh? 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.159 You know? I I think that there's something to be said, 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:36.320 Like anybody who's in a leadership uh role, I feel 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.800 like a lot of people depend on you. You're a 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:41.920 young leader in hip hop, but it just in terms 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.800 of just your life, your life, your personal personal life. 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.120 Everybody everyone's looking at you. Every single person in my 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:52.200 life depends on me, whether it's financially, whether it's leadership, emotional, 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:56.560 whatever it is, opportunity emotional. Everybody in my life depends 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.359 on me for something. You know what I'm saying. I 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.280 depend on them for things too, of course, but it's 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.200 a double sided relationship, you know what I'm saying. But 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.839 I have the most responsibility, so I gotta carry myself 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:07.160 that way. You know what I'm saying. I can't take 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.840 none personal. I gotta go and get this ship because 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.840 life is not promised. So while I'm here, I'm gonna 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.760 get where I want to be, and I'm gonna put 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.480 the people who I want to put in position in position. 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.320 I'm not gonna take it personally. I'm not gonna take 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:20.920 a day off. I'm not gonna waste the date. This 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.640 shit could be taken from me tomorrow. I can't more 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.320 than one way it could be taken from there? Do 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.400 you like? My thing is, though, is when you're in 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.720 that position, because I find myself in a similar position, 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:36.720 Like would you say, because because like who do you 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.240 go to? Because everyone's gonna come to you with their bullshit, 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.840 Everyone's gonna come to you with their problems. It depends. 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.360 I only have a certain few people that I could 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:45.880 really go to, Like if you're having a bad day, 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.720 who do you go to? Like? Who? Depends on what 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.280 kind of bad day I'm having? Right, Sometimes I go 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.240 to nobody. Sometimes I'm just I deal with myself, you know. 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.960 So off the top of my head, I know I 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:59.400 could trust my therapist. I could go to her. I 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:03.080 could go to JB for things. I could go to 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.280 make for things. I could go to deal for things. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:06.560 You know what I'm saying. I go to my big 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.560 brother for things. I go to my mother for things, 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:14.960 you know what I'm saying. But overall, it's like I 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.480 feel like nobody really really understand what I'm going through, 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.520 you know what I'm saying. So it's like a lot 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.600 of times I just keep it pushing, you know. I mean, 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.520 they have a therapist is nice though, and also to 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.239 be I mean, that's wonderful. Like I could tell her anything, 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.400 you know what I'm saying, Like, just tell her whatever, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:34.360 you know what I'm saying. But I feel like, and 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.560 it's crazy, the more my life is like picked up 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:41.160 and expanded, I don't it's therapy is not the same 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.360 if I'm not in front of her, Like I can't 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.760 do zooms and yeah, that shit don't work for me, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.760 because that's something that's like since the pandemic. Yeah, it's 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:52.800 not the same. It don't work. I gotta get in 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:54.280 front of her, you know what I'm saying. So it's 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.839 like once the pandemic hit, I kind of feel back 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.400 off therapy a little bit. It's not the same. Zoom shit, 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.160 it's the same thing with interviews. I tell people I 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.760 pass on the zoom Yeah, yeah, the zoone interviews zone 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.840 play back or whatever unless it's like, you know, yeah, 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:08.600 the necessity of it got to be you know. But 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.520 I'm like, look, I'd rather wait till they're in LA 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.920 and we across from each other, absolutely, because it's some more. Yeah, 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.760 at what point in time, Because I do feel like 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.720 everybody should go to therapy, everybody. I don't care who 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.760 you are, I don't care if you got Definitely, I 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.080 recommend everybody tried. At least everyone should try to have 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.200 that outlet where you could unapologetically just express yourself in 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.880 the room. Definitely, at least once. How long have you 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.680 been going to therapy. I've been going to therapy since 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:40.360 two thousand and eighteen, and that was by choice, Kinada. Yeah, 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.959 it was about choice. My lawyer actually recommended it for me. 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.480 You know what I'm saying. I really I told my lawyer, 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.640 you know, I believe in honesty and transparency. You know 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.079 what I'm saying. I was fighting a gun case in 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:54.040 Chicago is behind me now, and I told my lawyer, like, 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.920 I've never really not been in fear of my life 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.200 since I was fourteen years old. Crazy way to live 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.240 fifteen years old, that's a crazy way to wake up 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:07.280 and living lawyer is a uh he's over at sixty 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:08.920 years old, a black man, you know what I'm saying. 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.000 Then he I had two lawyers and I had another lawyer, 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.959 black woman. She was in her thirties, you know, forties maybe, 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.320 And when I expressed it to him, they just prefer, like, 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.000 you need to go to therapy and talk to somebody, 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:21.720 you know what I'm saying. And I did that, and 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.599 within like my second third session, she literally went to 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.920 court testify for me or you know what I'm saying, 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.720 wrote down and sent it to my judge, and I 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.080 was literally diagnosed with postraumatic stress disorder. I've never like 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.080 still to this day, and that's why I believe the 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:40.360 importance of like security and all that shit, because I'm paranoid, bro, 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.520 everywhere I go. I've always been paranoid, and I'm kind 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:46.600 of like easing out of it now, you know as Yeah, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.320 but you ease out of it, and then you see 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.200 ease out of it. See when your comrades lose their 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.280 life and when they left their guard, they snappy right 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.240 back into it. That's what I'm saying. And I'm glad 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.360 you made that point, because you ease out of it. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.679 The more you experience life, the more you see stuff, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.120 the more you were able to travel, the more you 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.920 able to make money. Like I was afraid for my 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.800 life in Chicago. I'm moved to LA to get away 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.360 from this shit, right, and then you see somebody that 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.319 you love, P and B long live my brother. That's 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.720 why I'm talking. I love, I love, and you see 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.240 these things, nip all these people. You feel what I'm saying. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:18.800 I came here to get away from that ship. And 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.800 then you're like, oh shit, it's still like that out here. 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:23.840 But at the end of the day, it's like that everywhere. 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.560 This is everywhere, no matter where you are anywhere in 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.280 another country, it's like that everywhere. You know what I'm saying. 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.640 So the realization of it is you can't put your 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.600 guard down, So how do you deal with it? You know? 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.640 Like I also think that like you just have to 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.520 kind of understand who you are exactly. You're g Herbo, 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:47.800 so you're not gonna like you're gonna take notes if 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:51.240 you're If you're self aware and you're sure of yourself, 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.320 I think there's certain ways you can move around to her, 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.680 like absolutely, if you get cat slipping, like you want 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:58.520 my like you want my iPhone? Guy, I believe that 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.040 I take it. I believe it. I'm that type of guy. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.440 I say that all the time. I look at the 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.200 camera and say that I don't have no ego. There's 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.760 not no gangst the bone in my body. That's gonna 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.640 feel funny about. Like, I understand that. You know what 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.000 I'm saying. God forbid if I'm ever in that situation, 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.319 my proud will never getting away of me, getting back 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.880 home your family period ever, ever, ever. You can have 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:21.760 that ship. You want the car, I give you my car, 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.559 go ahead, take it. I get away from me. It's 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.520 gonna be the most calm, robbery, and it's not gonna be. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.480 It's gonna be. Don't touch me. Don't touch me, don't 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.680 put your hands on me, don't harm my fact, don't 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.120 do nothing. You can have this ship. Man, ain't nothing. 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:36.920 It ain't worth it, it it ain't never worth it. I 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.960 could get it again more than a million more times. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.560 You can have this ship, bro. You can have my car, 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.199 you can have everything you need to get away car, 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.480 take this ship. Yeah, there's something about PTSD that obviously 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.079 an amazing record of yours that was on your last 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:56.720 album but it's something about PTSD that, you know, we 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.440 always think of soldiers having it, people who go to war, 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.520 but I think that you know, people who have been 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:05.079 through certain situations or grew up in certain places. It's 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.920 very real, man, And it's like have you tried to 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.520 Have you ever tried to fuck with mushrooms at all? No? 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.520 I ain't gonna lie. You know, it's so crazy, bro, 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.880 like long ago, I always want to try, Like like 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:19.600 years ago, I always want to try. And I used 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.160 to be around juice all the time. You know what 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.400 I'm saying. I always wanted to try that shit. I 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.120 ain't gonna lie, but I never tried it because I 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.120 just feel like I need to be in a set space, 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.640 you know what I'm saying. I be in a set space, 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.320 maybe out the country with my family having fun, and 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.400 I maybe try that ship. You feel what I'm saying. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.880 But I always wanted to try it. Though when you 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:39.760 do it, you definitely have to have your guard fully 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.520 let down. You gotta have you let down in a 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.680 fully comfort. My brother, I swear my brother told me 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.240 the story. Look this my brother's name G two. He 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.320 an artist he signed the South Side. That's my brother 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.400 I love. He told me one of his experiences off shrooms, 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.560 and this one made me want to try. He came 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.080 in the studio. I wasn't there. He came to the 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:01.559 studio crying, like crying, what's wrong? What the fuck you 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.160 craand for? And said, I'm happy. He said, I'm crying 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:09.479 because I'm so fucking happy, and that she threw me out. 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.440 I laughed, it's so fucking hard. When they told me 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:16.239 their story, and that's what maybe we want the treashrop. Well, like, uh, 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:22.680 there's PTSD in like specifically, yeah, psilocybin, which is the 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:26.200 psychoactive ingredient that are in magic mushrooms, you know whatever. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:33.640 It cures it for soldiers, soos those yes in Portland. 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.000 You heard it so in Portland. But I'm saying, like, 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.800 and that's crazy you said that because G two a 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.400 street nigga, you know what I'm saying, Like it was 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.720 a different feeling for him, like whatever, the psychoedelic Like also, 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:46.440 I mean obviously it depends on how much you eat, 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.120 depends on what you know what I mean. But uh 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:53.240 so they just legalized, uh psilocybin therapy in Portland. So 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.560 like now like there's like soldiers who will just go 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.680 to Portland for like two weeks and they'll go see 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.200 a therapist and they do like some psilocybin therapy and man, 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:05.080 it really helps therapists get them, yes, but they get yeah, 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.440 and it helps with It really helps with PTSD. Was 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.880 just like a form of basically, like Joe Biden just 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.479 talked about legalizing it for therapeutic purposes because it helps PTSD. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:18.400 It's crazy that m d M a therapy, which you said, 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.720 I probably have to try it. You have to, man, 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.720 and you have to do it. You have to do it, 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.600 like make sure the kids ain't around. Yeah, for sure. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:27.800 You can do it recreationally and like be in the 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.880 studio and still kill it, you know, Like I fucking 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.040 was Friday Rooms the other night. I never tried it, 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.040 but I want to try it though. You gotta do 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.360 it if you really want to do it, because I 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.640 think if you really like pt first person to ever 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.240 really introduced me to shrooms with self side south Side 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:49.600 already he's fucking with everything. Party is that guy when 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:53.720 it comes to just man, he's a great, great guy. 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.240 Me and him had one of the funnest interviews I've 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.120 ever done. And I appreciated his transparent that's really like 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.640 my twin brother. He's a great guy. I want to, 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.200 you know, the one thing I haven't done this party 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:04.640 with him, and I'm not sure I want to, but 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.720 yeah you you not don't want to, but you don't 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:09.560 know if I'm ready. You don't know if I'm ready. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:16.680 That nigga literally me and him, like he's hilarious. Man, Yeah, 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.880 I didn't know what to think. I met him before, 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.160 back in the day and he came in for the 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:21.640 interview and he was just like an open book and 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.520 he's hilarious, super solid exactly, It's like he's solid, but 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:29.040 it's like it's a whole other like sad to him. Yeah, 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.640 they don't make it like they don't make him like him, 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.640 make him what I'm telling you, like, that's my that's 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.880 my best friend, bro. Like my mother loved him, his 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.120 mother loved me. I know his whole family, you know, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:42.640 my entire amazing you know my whole family. Definitely do 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.840 the mushrooms, man, Yeah, I think I think mentally it 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:49.280 will help you. Man, that you should do. But like listen, 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.440 look there on the back, like, hey, man, I don't 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:55.640 know why you want to introduce this, y'all. First of all, drug, 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.960 it's not a drug. You could do your research on it, 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:03.680 but get an airbnb somewhere in the fucking woods away 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.520 from everything exactly, and try eat a ton and then 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.920 just sit back and let it. Let the medicine do it. 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:14.200 But you know this so crazy because my mind automatically, 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.560 Like I'm a thinker, bro, My mind is like all 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:21.040 over the place, Like literally, I think about sober. I 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.480 think about every single obstacle in my life. I think about, Okay, 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.200 I make this decision, it's gonna affect this person, this 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.679 person is then you're am I cool with that? All right? 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:31.120 I'm cool with that. I'm gonna do it. You feel 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:35.000 That's how I think automatically, So I SMS gonna open 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.680 my shit up a different way, like even the smallest 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.160 thing like weed. When I used to smoke weed, bro, Yeah, 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.280 I used to think differently, you know. You know what 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.160 I'm saying, Like when I drink liquor, I think differently. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:49.440 But I'm a thinker. You know. I never act off emotion. Mushrooms, 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.040 things a certain way increase exactly. And I've heard that 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.199 That's what I'm saying. I'm a natural thinker, so I 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.320 can only imagine what my mind is going to do 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:01.000 if I take a shroom. I got you, man, I 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:02.919 own a gummy company, So I'm gonna hook you up. 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:04.480 We're gonna fuck around. I'm gonna hit you. I'm gonna 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.000 hit you about it after I try, and I'm gonna 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.360 call you. You You want to be the first person I call, like, hey, bro, 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.080 I'll funk with you for that. Yeah, you're gonna like 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:12.800 you're gonna close your eyes to go to bed the 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.320 night you try him in your brain. And then said 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.840 President Joe Biben already didn't God damn it. The goal 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:23.600 is the legal to legalized PS psychedelic therapy. And before 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.600 you want to say that, Joe Biben right now, I 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:33.560 don't know you owe as fuck. We missed Obama. We 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:38.440 missed Obama. God damn we missed Trump. I can't listen. 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.679 I missed. I missed. You know what, I ain't even 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.080 gonna say that. I just missed prior to Biden. I 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:48.119 missed my tax bills under Trump exactly because God, that's 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.840 what I'm telling you. My say what details the tax 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:54.680 the I R S check I wrote last year hurt 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.720 my soul, and you make way more money than me. 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:00.600 You know, I don't even want to talk about taxes, please, 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.960 don't you know what you gotta do is I have 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.040 a few rapper friends that I won't say because I'm 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.199 not blowing up their spot. But what you do is 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:12.480 you get your primary residence in either Nevada or Florida. 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.800 Absolutely that's where you live. Absolutely that's where you live. 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:17.760 And then you don't got to worry about state taxes 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:22.480 because California is fucking you in that fucking Oh my god, 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.480 it's terrible. It's bad. I don't even know why we 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:28.080 I mean, why does anybody live here? I know why 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.960 I live here. But if I was doing literally anything 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.159 else with my life, I'm out this bitch. And I 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.040 love I love Cali. I love the culture here, I 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:38.720 love the people here. I love it. I just love it. 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.280 I never thought that I would ever, like, even want 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:43.879 to move anywhere else. You know what I'm saying, But 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:46.320 tax purposes to make you want to get the fuck 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.000 out of it. I mean, yeah, Elon Musk left Elon 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.680 mus like I'm going to Texas. Fuck y'all, no bullsh Yeah, 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:55.600 it's a shout out to uh yeah, but we got 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:57.879 to get you some mushrooms. Man. Well, you said you 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.560 had to overcome drug addiction. What was what was the 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:07.160 your your your poison? Zan's percoset and Lane that those 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.080 are all the hard ones, all the hard was all 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:12.520 the worst ones, man, those are the kind ones. Yeah. 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.119 I got addicted to Zans and Lane when I was 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:20.040 probably about seventeen years old. I was taking Zans, drinking Lane, 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.280 smoking weed like every day. I ain't gonna lie, look 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.639 I used to. I got to a point where my brother, 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:27.360 he had tell you the story. I wish he was here. 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:29.679 We was in New York one time, you know, like 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:33.560 seventeen eighteen, I'm already g herbal. I'm already well look herd, well, 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.400 whatever the fucking I'm already traveling. I'm doing shows. I'm 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:38.280 in the other States, and shit, you know what I'm saying. 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.560 So I'm on the road battling you know, the trauma 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.160 that I'm truck that I've been dealing with for so long, 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:48.280 you know what I'm saying. But I'm like, one day, 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:50.320 we was in a hotel and I'm seeing my brother 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:54.040 right there. I'm just like taking Zans, taking one. I 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:55.840 was already off one. I ain't shilling. Were just in 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.639 the room chilling, like thirty forty minutes go by. I 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.720 taking that one like I will go back, I'll take another. 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:03.720 We look at me like, hey, Bro, what the fuck 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.960 you doing? You feel? My brother like, hey, nigga, I 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.240 just watched you literally take three three of them holse 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:12.639 hands back to back, you drinking? What the fuck is 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:15.159 you doing? Right? I'm like seventeen, eighteen years old and 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:17.479 my brother five years older than me. You're like, man, 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.640 what the fuck you on? And I ain't even realize 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:22.560 you feel me like I ain't even feel like I'm feeling. 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:24.880 I'm like, I ain't high. He like, Nigga, I'm looking 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.480 at you, nigga, he is high? You feel me like 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:30.439 I was battling with that shit crazy bro, because I 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:34.720 couldn't sleep like trauma things I'm seeing, Bro, Like and 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.320 you're dealing with you seeing some wicked shit. Bro. I 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.760 done seen my best friend's brains blew out in front 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:41.920 of me. I haven't seen a lot of shit bro, 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.000 for real. Like it has got to a point where 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:46.520 I couldn't live with my grandmother. My grandmother died in 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.119 twenty sixteen. Bro, I missed the last probably year and 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:51.480 a half of my grandmother life because I couldn't live 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.080 with I couldn't live there, Bro, I couldn't live that 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:55.960 niggas was trying to kill me. I couldn't. You couldn't 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:58.280 be around her because you couldn't be around the person 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:02.439 who I love the most life because of where she lived, right, 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:04.960 and she ain't had no choice. She on fucking Section eight. 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:07.600 She can't move. You feel what I'm saying, Like that 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.800 shit bothered me still to this day, Bro, you feel 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.040 I don't want to get emotional about it, but you 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.560 can only imagine, Like that's just one thing. So how 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:19.600 about this. So my grandma died of COVID early COVID. Yeah, 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:21.480 so but this is what was fucked up. And she 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:25.760 was like teetering on dementia. So we'd have to go 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:28.480 and see her like three or four times a week 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:31.560 just to remind her right, so she would always grandmother 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:34.200 was like that she had a stroke. She had a stroke, 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:36.880 and she was like, you know, trying to gain her 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:38.520 memory back. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, But what 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.440 was crazy was you remember during COVID they shut down 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.840 all the nursing homes. So like the last two months 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:47.320 of my grandma's life, we literally were not allowed to 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:50.280 visit her, and they wouldn't. They wouldn't even like they 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:51.560 would try to put us on the phone with her, 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:53.879 you know what I'm saying. But like, so she died 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:59.239 alone with nobody around her, without seeing anybody for two months. Crazy, bro, 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:02.280 I ain't gonna lie like I relate to that because 0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:03.800 and I don't even want to get deep into it, 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:06.600 you know what I'm saying, But i'm'a just go into it. 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:11.199 Fucking my mother's mom. She died from a stroke, her 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:14.480 second stroke, I called her first stroke. I got into 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.080 a fight at school when I was in eighth grade. Fuck, 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.000 and I told my sister, like, run down the block, 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.800 and my sister had a cell phone. We get into 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:25.520 it some niggas after school, blase blah. I tell my 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:27.720 sister like, run down the street, you see what I'm saying. 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:31.399 And my sister called, like, oh her beating them fighting 0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:34.439 and scared of my grandmother, like you know, made her 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:36.639 get scared. And as soon as I walk in the 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.760 house after the shit, I walk home. I'm in eighth grade. 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:41.879 Soon as I walk in the house, my grandma see me, 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.760 she already like is static, like she's already Yeah, it's older, 0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:46.480 niggas though it's older. And we got into it some 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:49.439 niggas that was like junior singings in high school. We 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:51.640 in eighth grade. You feel what I'm saying. So my 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.320 sister crying on the phone, she is static. My grandma 0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:56.520 don't know what the fuck going right. So when I 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.199 get home and she sees me walk in, she like 0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:01.360 already peering. I promised. I went in the house for 0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:03.320 two minutes. My grandma fell on the floor, hit a 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:06.639 stroke in front of everybody. You feel me, and she 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.359 recovered from it. She had third she lost her memory 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:10.919 all that, you know what I'm saying, And then she 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:19.280 had another another another stroke, maybe like ten years later, 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.639 something like that. You feel what I'm saying. But like 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:23.760 as I'm in the streets and all this, and I 0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:26.080 had to move out of my grandmother's house and I 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:27.840 was still trying to like go see her. You know, 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:31.080 I remember my last time stepping foot in my grandmother house. 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:35.400 I was probably eighteen nineteen years old, my last time 0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:41.399 stepping front in her house, and I had a girl 0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:43.000 like dropping me off, like I'm gonna go see my 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:45.879 grandma real quick. You pulling me right there in my 0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:48.399 ops neighborhood. It's just me and a girl. You feel me? Wow, 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:50.720 go inside the crib. I got a big ass gun 0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:53.960 on me, big ass going on me, poll me. My 0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:57.960 grandma see it? You feel me like? She like, don't 0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.200 come back here no more? You know she I don't 0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:02.399 even want you to come back here no more. It's cool. 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.800 I'll call you, I'll come see you, you feel I'm saying. 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:07.960 And that was the last time I wanted my grandma house. 0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:11.280 And then I moved my mother when I started making money. 0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.760 The first thing I did, the first big check I 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:16.399 really got, for real, I moved my mama out the hood, 0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.720 and she knew my grandma wasn't moving. She ain't gonna 0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:21.240 know where. I moved my grandma an hour away from Chicago. 0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.320 My grandma already six. She old she not driving an 0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:26.399 hour away to go see nobody. You feel me like, 0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:28.680 my grandma only been to the mansion, and I bought 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.359 my mama my grandma probably been there. I could count 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.560 on one hand how many times she's been there. You 0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:37.320 feel me? And it was like I lost the memories 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.399 with my grandmother, and that's who raised me. That's the 0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:41.600 woman I love the most. You feel me, I lost 0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.040 those memories. And what I'm saying is, I'll relate to 0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:47.199 what you're saying, because this is my mother's mom after COVID, 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.720 my father's mom. Still I haven't seen my father's mom 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.919 in probably two years. She's in the hospital still to 0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:54.639 this day. Right now, right now, we don't know what 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:56.640 I'm doing. Hell, she's in the hospital to this day. 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:58.879 She called COVID and she was in like one of 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:02.240 them spots where she COVID was so crazy. She couldn't 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:05.000 get no visitors. Yeah, that's it's limited visitors, can't nobody 0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:07.800 even see her. But my mom, my mom only see 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.199 her maybe once or twice. My dad could only go 0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:12.000 see her. They won't even let me see her. I'm 0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.360 gee herbo. I can't even go see my grandmother for real, 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.639 You know what I'm saying. And I think now I 0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:18.960 probably can now, but it's like it's two years and 0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:22.960 going by my grandma close to eighty years old. You 0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.280 feel what I'm saying, she's like seventy seven, senty eight, 0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:28.119 close to eighty years old. I can't even see her. 0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.000 You feel I'm saying that fuck with me all the time. 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:33.760 Go see her, man, if you can only grandma. Yeah, 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:35.800 I don't even know if I can. I've been trying 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:37.960 to hit I would go back home to a Z 0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:40.159 because I'm from Phoenix, and I would be like I 0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:43.280 would always make it a point even about me. I 0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:45.760 promise like I want to go take my kids to 0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:47.840 go see her. Bro, that's the ship that really means 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.920 something to me. I'm saying like, I got a one 0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:51.960 year old and a four year old daughter. You feel 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.000 I'm saying like, I want to take all my kids. 0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.240 My son four years old, so of course she met 0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.880 your son by the time, I need to go take 0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:01.080 all my kids to go. Yeah, that's what's important. She 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.640 wants to see her grand kids. He's a great grand 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:05.959 and it'll make a great grand kid, and it'll make 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:09.119 her like it'll make her fucking my grandma soldier, you 0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:11.240 know what I'm saying. So that's a lot, like a 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:12.760 lot of shit that I battle with and I be 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.440 dealing with Bro and dealing with my family and shit 0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:17.920 like I don't never really say, you know, but I'm 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.000 open to say it now because I want people to 0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.800 understand like, I don't speak on this ship. So when 0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.119 you come to me with your problems, I got my 0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.320 own problem. Of course, I don't want to hear another 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.199 nigga problems, bro, because I deal with my problems head on, 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.040 and your problems probably not even half of what I'm 0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.959 dealing with. And I got all the money I'm dealing with. 0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.399 It's more money, more problems, but fuck the money. I 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:40.719 got my own personal problems. Don't come to me by 0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.560 no personal problems, And I got these problems in them problems. 0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:45.720 You know what I'm saying. I'm telling you with a 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.560 lot of shit, bro, I definitely want to. I definitely 0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.840 have to. You know, like I talk, I'll be thinking 0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:52.240 in my head, I'd be like shit, I wish I 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:53.879 would have went and saw her more. I talk to 0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.000 my mom every day about this ship, you know, talk 0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.840 to my dad is like I have to. I don't 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.239 like right now, don't literally if I'm able to go 0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:05.840 visit my grandmother. It just happened like this a week recently, 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.679 two weeks top right right, I just got the window 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.840 to go see homes are being very careful. Shit wasn't 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.760 like that, bro, I couldn't see her I'm just now 0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:17.440 able to, so I gotta take initiative right now. You 0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:20.240 feel what I'm saying that should be tough. It's crazy 0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:21.680 what you said about like not being able to go 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.439 see your grandma because where she lived exact. I just 0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:28.680 wonder how many like just countless, countlessless young men are 0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:30.320 dealing with that same shit. You know what I mean. 0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:33.399 Niggas in Chicago can't go see their grandmother, gan they mother, 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.160 they kids because they live, you know what I'm saying. 0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.880 That's why it's so big on me to just bring 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.400 opportunity and change to the city. You know what I'm saying, 0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.200 because if you don't bring no opportunity, niggas is not 0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.680 beefing in Chicago over money, especially my generation. It ain't 0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.320 no money out there. Niggas ain't beefing over no blocks 0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.480 or drug lass and none of that shit. Niggas beefing 0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:58.000 over hearsay, bullshit, the internet, lack of money, lack of opportunity. 0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:00.520 It's nothing to do but be angry at everybody. But 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:02.960 once you start bringing money, I don't give a fuck. 0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:07.160 And it's my opinion because I've experienced money. Now, maybe 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.600 I'm wrong, or maybe I'm not. But once you start 0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.600 bringing money an opportunity to niggas, ain't nobody got time 0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.240 to do that shit. Bro. Once you got millions and 0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:16.880 you could feed your family, you don't want to go 0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:18.960 do nothing, no niggas. So if you're doing that for 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:23.160 this and for whoever like you, just bringing opportunity to Chicago, 0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.320 a lot of violence gonna stop because nigga's gonna be 0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:28.000 able to take care of their family, you know what 0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.800 I'm saying. Like niggas could talk out differences or whatever, 0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:32.560 fight hit whatever. You know what I'm saying. I'm not 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.480 trying to end all the violence. It's impossible. You could 0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.719 never end all the violence anywhere, not just Chicago. But like, 0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.560 I'm just trying to bring opportunity to the youth so 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:43.680 they don't have to do that. So even my generation, 0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.280 we probably already too fucked up to be honest. Maybe 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:51.240 I don't know, but definitely I care about the youth. 0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.440 I care about the generations after me, so they don't 0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.200 got to live how I live. You feel what I'm saying, 0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.400 That's what's important to me. I don't want my kids 0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:58.920 to live how I live, bro. I want my kids 0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.800 to have their innocence to how their youth. 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Two Once, 0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.240 once people die, once relatives die, or whatever. I just 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.280 I just I don't know what it is like. You know, 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.760 I think for me, at least from an outsider looking 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.240 and I think it starts with you know, like you said, 0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.920 like if you're in a position to give back, if 0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.920 you're in a position to be a positive influence on 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:15.680 on the generation below you, I think that's a lot, 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.080 you know, And I do want to give you props 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:23.600 because I feel like I never see you wrapped up 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.480 in negative bullshit outside of you know, hey, you know, 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:28.120 maybe you got a charge, or you're going ship with 0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.400 your with your baby mom, whatever, just dumb shit that 0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:32.640 you know, your famous person you're gonna deal with. You're 0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.360 gonna deal with famous person shit. But I feel like, 0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:39.760 you know, I always say that like just as an artist, 0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.480 you've grown the most over the years. As a rapper, 0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:46.040 you've you've you've leaps and bounds lyrically. But all that 0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:47.800 shit aside, Like I feel like as a man, like 0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:51.760 you're one of those shining examples of like, you know, growth, 0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:54.400 We saw you grow up in front of our eyes, 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.800 and you know, I want to just give you kudos 0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:01.160 for not participate painting in the fun shit that I 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.239 see a lot of people who you know are your 0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.520 peers participating in. But like, what do you think is 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:09.720 the key to kind of like you're never gonna stop everything. Yeah, 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:15.280 for sure, absolutely. I think the key to it is opportunity. Bro. Yeah, 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.680 people are opportunists. So at the end of the day, 0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.800 if you're an opportunist and I'm not, I may give 0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:24.280 you opportunity because as an opportunitist, you may think, all right, 0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.360 the way to feed my family is to do this 0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.800 on the internet or do this or yeah, because you 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:34.200 get function, you see your metric. The function is what's 0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.120 feeding people family, But at the end of the day, 0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.719 it's what's ending families as well. That ship is feeding 0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.960 families and and families at the same time. And it's 0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.000 the short Nu. It's like, yeah, short you feel and 0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.080 I feel like for what I don't want to do 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.120 because I could, I could feed into all the function 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.640 and I could be on functionhit. But I'm not for what. 0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.600 I feel like I got so much to lose. And 0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.479 that's just from experiencing life on so many ways, bro, 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.040 because I used to wake up every day on functionhit. 0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:04.719 But I ain't on that. Bro. I wake up every 0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.960 day in a big ass crib with my kids. I 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:09.840 don't even want to think about no func. Shit. You 0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:11.719 feel what I'm saying, And it's like at the end 0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.600 of the day. It's so easy to like snap back 0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:18.040 and like entertain goofy shit or whatever. But I feel 0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:21.399 like the key opponent to ending that is opportunity. Bro, 0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.160 you gotta get a nigga's opportunity, and you gotta understand, 0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:27.879 you gotta be understanding of why niggas on function. It's 0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.080 certain niggas on function that don't have nothing else to 0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.799 resort to, but that they don't have no other opportunities, 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.600 no ways of making money. They in theyhood all day 0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:38.080 where it's nothing but negativity. I could tell you every 0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.799 day it was nothing but negativity in my neighborhood, where 0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:43.400 every day is some function going on, and we still 0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:46.880 finding ways to smell, to have fun. My friends, my 0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.319 best friends die. I'm coming back on this block every day, 0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:51.600 and I'm still able to crack a smile, which is crazy. 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.480 That's insane, that's insane. You feel what I'm saying. So 0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:58.200 to understand that, it's one of the main reasons why 0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.120 I don't feed into it, because I under staying I 0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.680 get why niggas frustrated. I could get why a nigga 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.239 may be frustrated even at me, because I'm able to 0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:09.720 live on this side of the fence. That's survivors remorse, 0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.680 and that's why I understand, Like, damn, it's cool, I 0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.120 know you going through this. I really want to help you, 0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.440 but I gotta be able to help you. But you 0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:21.200 gotta want to help yourself. You gotta want to help you. 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:25.640 But it's like nigga. Certain niggas can't even help themselves 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:28.200 because they in this environment. It's hard to want to 0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:33.560 help yourself when survive survive, that's the survivor side. I 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.680 survive this ship, so I understand it different. You feel 0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.000 what I'm saying, like everything just tied back into each 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.200 other and it's like that shit tough, bro, And I 0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.359 understand it because I once come from that you feel 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.040 I'm saying. So the reason why I don't feed into 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.640 it is because it ain't even worth it to me. Well, 0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.759 that takes a lot of humility on your behalf to 0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.239 be like, you know what, I'm not feeding into this 0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:55.880 ship because I get it. I was there, I get it. Yeah, 0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:57.640 I get it. You feel what I'm saying like I 0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:01.120 always once you, I relate to you. So I feel 0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.280 like with me being an open book and being vulnerab 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.160 about this shit, and nigga would be like, damn, he 0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.600 really do get it right? Fuck it. Let me just 0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:11.480 change everything because I made the biggest sacrifice. I wouldn't 0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:13.759 be here today if I ain't say fuck everything, bro, 0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.520 and every nigga around me could contest to it. I said, 0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.680 fuck everything, Fuck being on the block, fuck hanging with 0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:23.000 my friends, fuck rap. I said, fuck everything. Let me 0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:24.920 just get my mad right, Bro. I stayed in my 0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:28.120 mama house literally, nigga. I had a condo down town 0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.000 when I was seventeen years old. Bro, I stayed in 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.800 my mama house in my twenties and just stayed in 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:36.200 abasement and just try to think about life, bro, Think 0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:38.719 about where I would be if I made certain decisions. 0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:40.720 You feel what I'm saying. If I was still outside 0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:44.520 hanging on my block, because I love my hood so much. 0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:46.439 But I got millions of dollars, youee what I'm saying, 0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:50.000 I'm making millions of dollars, you know. And that was 0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:51.799 one of the toughest times I've ever been through in 0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:54.560 my life. And people who experienced that with me know 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.880 I went through some tough shit and I overcame that. 0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.439 So I'm saying all that to say is no matter 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.319 what you're going through in your life or whatever tough 0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.800 times you going through, you could just buckle down, embrace it, 0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:07.880 and overcome it. You know what I'm saying. There's people 0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.799 going through tougher shit than me, of course, so you 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.040 just gotta take it for what it is, bro and 0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.160 just try to be the best version of yourself that 0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.960 you could be tomorrow than you was yesterday. And you 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.040 keep trying to do that, and then you look up 0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:24.080 niggas two months then going back you're like, damn, I 0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.200 think totally different, right, But I can get back out 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.360 here and just do my thing. You feel me, I 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.560 think I was gonna say, I think another thing that 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:34.640 you probably I think that we have to stop romanticizing 0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:38.280 the wrong shit, Like if you come from a certain area, 0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:41.160 like at the end of the day, unless you own 0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:43.880 that real estate, ain't about nothing. It ain't about nothing, 0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:47.960 no man who cares. Like one of my biggest pet 0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.800 peeves is when I see people like I'm still here, 0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:53.600 y'all can't come over here, and I'm like, yo, like 0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:55.680 at the end of the day, like you grew up there, 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.359 and you know where you grew up, Like your goal 0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:00.160 should be to try to evolve and get into with 0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.480 the situation out of here so we could own this ship. 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.319 You feel what I'm saying and show you this, and 0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:07.799 that's crazy you saying that. Bro, This like some of 0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:09.680 the deepest shit I've been talking about right now with you. 0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:13.200 Because I just did the AS on the block ship 0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:15.719 in Chicago right there, I just did the A A 0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.400 on a block interview. I thought about it. I'm like, 0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:20.160 I'm gonna go back to the block and shoot this ship. 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.680 I thought, like, own this ship game, I own a 0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.560 school in Chicago. I'm finna shoot my ship right here. 0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:30.600 You on the school. I own the school at the school. 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.879 That's what I'm finna shoot right here, right here, my ship. 0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.319 I own this property game. I own this ship, Bro, 0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.120 Why not want to shoot right here? Why not want 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:41.880 to shoot right here? Why not go back to the 0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:43.800 block when I could own this ship and get this 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.160 ship to people who I care about? How my home? 0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.720 And now you got a development company, a construction company, 0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.799 a paint company, of real estate management company. Get that 0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:54.759 ship to y'all, and now we really own the block. 0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.399 Post up on that bitch, all y'all want, let's do this. 0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.879 That's what I'm also like you, your goal should always 0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:02.600 be to get back to your kids every day. Hell, 0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.360 and if it's like a three percent chance to something 0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:07.600 wrong happens when you go shoot that. If it's a 0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:12.240 two percent, don't do it. Let me minimize the man. 0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:14.040 I need to maximize the chance to getting home to 0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.680 this chance. The nigga, I'm up so and some ship 0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:18.600 rubbed me the wrong way. I ain't doing it, you 0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:20.440 feel I'm saying, But I was the same nigga, Like 0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:22.560 I know for a fact, I know every risk of 0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:24.920 doing this. I'm still do it because I feel like, 0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:26.920 all right, bet I could do it. Yeah, because I 0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:30.040 got that same like my my man had work. I know, 0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:33.680 I feel like I could overcome any situation. And that's dangerous. 0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.359 So I put myself and it's up situation. That's and 0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.440 that's also not like I could overcome. No, that's a 0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:42.120 terrible way, crazy way to think. What I learned that 0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.440 way to think in bad circum I feel like I 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.440 used to be the same way, where like now we're 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.160 gonna be all right, We're gonna be straight, we get 0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:50.520 through whatever happens. I got it it. We got it. 0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:53.560 Until you don't till you don't. Everything all good till 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:57.600 it ain't until it ain't. Nobody's bulletproof. Nobody is uh, 0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:00.759 everything all good until it ain't. Bro. That's some real shit, 0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:02.440 And I think a lot of people need to stop 0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:07.640 moving around with just like I feel like false privilege. Like, hey, man, 0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:09.719 you ain't no better than anybody else, you know what 0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:12.000 I'm saying. And I know that though I understand that 0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.200 you feel I'm saying, I just felt like I was 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.799 the best version of myself right, and that ain't no 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.600 way to think. Nah. I think I think, man, I 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.000 just you know, slew to you dog because I swear, man, 0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.239 I always tell people that interviews. Whenever your name is 0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.360 brought up, I'm like, man, you're like, I think, like 0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:31.279 a beaming light from a city that needs that light. 0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:34.719 You know what I'm saying. And I think, you know, 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:36.440 just to watch you. I think the first time I 0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.280 saw you, I was on the side of the stage 0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.280 at Summer Jam when Nikki brought you out. Yeah, that's crazy. 0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.240 So that was like twenty fourteen or fifteen? Was that fourteen? 0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:48.719 Twenty fourteen? For sure? How old were you twenty fourteen? 0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:52.040 I was seventeen, so that was. Yeah, I remember that 0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.640 shit like that was like that was one of them days, 0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.400 fourteen seventeen eighteen like that. Yeah, that was one of 0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:59.399 those days I always remember because we were right there 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:01.759 like bullshited our way where the label didn't kick us 0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:03.840 out and I'm like standing there watching fucking Nikki and 0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:07.719 Drake and you get brought out. That was That was 0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.160 how big of how pivotal of like a day was 0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:11.759 that for you to get brought out of summer jam 0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:13.840 by Nikki? Man, that shit was crazy, Bro. I was 0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:17.439 so nervous. I couldn't even really like because you gotta understand, bro, 0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:21.000 I'm coming from say Knife and Assens every day. That's 0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.200 why I'm hanging it. Like literally, I'm right there the 0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.680 day before I fly out. So it's like I didn't 0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:28.120 even feel like I belonged there. I felt like I 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.480 felt I blended in better over there. And that's the 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.560 wrong way to think, because I've been a superstar Nigga. 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:34.120 I wouldn't even been there if I ain't belong with that. 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:35.840 Of course, NICKI would have never reached out to me 0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:39.200 if I didn't deserve to be there. But when I 0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:41.720 come around that, I felt like I was out of place. 0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:44.040 That's fucking crazy. I should have felt like I was 0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.360 out of place on my block, right you feel me? 0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.000 I felt the most comfortable over there. And when I 0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:54.680 get around Wayne, fucking Baby Nikki, all these superstars meet. 0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:56.839 This is my first time really meeting all of them. 0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:01.440 I ain't say a word that Bro, Drake Nigga. I 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.680 saw to god Drake could contest it is right now, 0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:08.839 we backstage. My first real encounter with Drake was, y'all 0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:10.960 don't know who this is. This is my favorite rapper. 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.360 Drake called me his favorite rapper Nigga when I was 0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.040 eighteen years old. It's my favorite rapper right now. And 0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:17.960 I got so shot. I'm like, man, what the fuck 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:19.440 you just put me on the spot like that for? 0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.000 It fucked me up because I felt out of place 0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.880 already being there. I didn't feel like a star. You 0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:26.200 feel what I'm saying. I didn't know how to feel 0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:28.120 like a star because I'm up against this shit. You're 0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.600 up against real life. I'm up against real life. I 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:32.719 didn't feel like a star, bro. So for Drake to 0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:34.960 tell me that right then, I didn't even know how 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.680 to feel. It made me so fucking uncomfortable that he 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:39.680 did that. You feel me, and that's probably why, like, 0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.080 our relationship ain't where it should be today because I 0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.600 didn't embrace him telling me that. I didn't know how 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:47.239 to feel when he told me that shit. Bro, I 0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:48.920 swear to God, a nigga told me in front of 0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:53.440 Baby Wayne Nikki g Robers that night. That night, back backstage, 0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.120 he said, YA don't know what this is because I'm 0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.480 in the corner. I ain't talking to nobody. I don't 0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.680 know what this is. Man, this is my favorite rapper. 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.040 Man ain't nah, I fuck with Shorty and I ain't 0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:03.880 know what the thing. I still was nervous when I 0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:05.879 went out on stage. You feel me, like, And I'm 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.480 saying all that to say for any artist or anybody 0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.120 that's trying to do this shit like, embrace your in 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:14.000 the stock, embrace your power because this shit could be 0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:16.000 taken from you any day. And I'm blessed that God 0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.279 didn't take this shit from me when I took it 0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.640 for granted, or when I didn't understand what it was. 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:22.719 And that's why I'm here today. You know what I'm saying. 0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:26.040 So that shit crazy to me, Bro, It's crazy. Full 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:29.719 circle Nicky. I came out roll aloud with Nikki. You 0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:31.600 know what I'm saying, like full circle to this day. 0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:33.839 Me and Drake Cool. That's my brother, h I talk 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:35.640 to him all the time. You know what I'm saying, 0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.399 Like I was, you be hooping together and shit, now 0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.920 you feel me. We go hang out and all this shit. 0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:44.839 You know. Like so it's just like a different hour 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.399 that I have about myself because I'm mature and I'm 0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.640 a different person. Yeah, what would you say is the 0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:56.560 main component for you to have the longevity? Because I mean, listen, man, 0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.080 we're talking going on ten years now, right, so like 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.800 a lot of people, I mean, careers last a summer 0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.480 two years, you know, Like like I mean, we don't 0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:08.719 even gotta say names. We just think the top of 0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:10.919 your head list goes on so many artists that I'm like, damn, 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:13.399 y'all had you had a hot year? And then you're 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.200 like what happened? You know what I mean? Like what 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:19.040 do you think is uh been pertinent to you staying relevant? 0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:21.480 And and you know, for me, I think just from 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:26.600 a fan, it's gross. Yeah. The growth musically, it's being myself, Yes, 0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:30.160 embracing my flaws. Bro, not feeling like I was supposed 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:31.800 to be that nigga or I suppose you know, and 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:33.560 you're not wearing like a rapper cost to me that 0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:35.920 I'm not wearing a rapper cost. I'm being myself. You 0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:37.399 know what I'm saying. At the end of the day, 0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.960 as before I mature and became this person, you would 0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.080 look look at him, still look good. I'm doing all 0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:45.120 this ship and I'm like, how the fuck is this 0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:47.680 nigga doing better than me? And I know for a fact, 0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:50.640 I ain't a competitive person. I don't compel nobody, which 0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.240 is important. You know that is a flaw. That's a flaw. 0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:55.600 I never look at nobody like he's supposed to be 0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:57.319 where they at. You will look at a nigga and 0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:58.759 be like, I'm supposed to be where he at and 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.839 then next year, where is he? And you still doing this? 0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:04.719 I ain't never did this. I when you start looking over, 0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.200 I always did this and this and this and this 0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:10.280 and this because I always better on myself. I always 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:13.560 believe in myself and I always been myself. Bro every 0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:17.520 every all through my career. I'm going through something personally, 0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:19.400 you know what I'm saying, whether it's adversity. Reddit is 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.680 the music industry, whether it's fighting the case, whether it's 0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.040 dealing with some shit at home. I just find a 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:26.120 way to just be the best version of myself when 0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:29.120 I'm out here being g Herbal, because I'm not g Herbal. 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:32.960 I'm Herbert, right. Ge Herbal is the basically the costume, 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:35.200 but I don't put on a rapper costume. I'm not 0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:37.200 trying to be g Herbal because I am g Herbal. 0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:39.840 That's me automatically. I am that. But at the end 0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:42.040 of the day, I'm a man, bro, and that's what's 0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:44.480 important to me. So I always focused on being that 0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:46.839 and just being the best man I could be. As 0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:48.520 as long as I'm the best man I could be, 0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:51.000 I'm always be the best rap I could be. That's 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.960 shit easy, bro. I ain't no rap. I'm a solid nigga. 0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:56.400 You feel what I'm saying, and that's what's important to me, 0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:58.879 and that's what people gravitate to, you know what I'm saying. 0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:01.319 So a lot of time people didn't really catch on 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.239 the rap. I ain't had no plaques and all this 0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.440 crazy shit going on. I fee I'm saying. I'm just 0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:09.080 not really getting my plaques now I'm getting my flowers now, 0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.480 but I ain't never asked for them. I ain't want them. 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.360 The people who fucked me fucked me. If it was 0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:15.440 for you, it's for you. Hey, what up? Is Bootleg 0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:17.839 keV stopping the interview real quick to tell you about 0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:20.719 our partners at my bookie. 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And it's like, bro, like, 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:29.160 if you know you're straight and you know you're on 0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.600 your mission, always get like everything will come like at 0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:35.719 the end of the day. You can't let outside shit 0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:39.640 validate who you are. And unfortunately, like a lot of people, 0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:41.920 that's I mean, I've been I've been in that position 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:43.880 in my life where I'm so worried about what everybody 0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:45.840 thought or I have to you, it's going to be 0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:48.359 in that position where you worry about what everybody think. 0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:52.040 But the thing that made me stop caring is it 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.640 was always because of the Internet. You feel what I'm saying, Like, 0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:56.320 the people that I deal with on the day to 0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:59.440 day where there's somebody I work with, some my first 0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:02.759 time means somebody, my mother, my girl, my kids, right, 0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:06.319 my girl, mother of family. Everybody loved me when they 0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:08.839 meet me. And I started to think, like, I mean, 0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:11.880 I'm a solid nigga. I ain't never really hear nobody 0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:14.160 really say nothing bad about me. Like in the streets, 0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:17.200 my name always been good US industry and the music industry. 0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:19.080 As you know, it's fake as fuck. I don't know 0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:21.160 anybody who's ever said anything bad about it. My name 0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:23.359 good out here, bro, because I just focus on being 0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:26.800 a solid dude personally. My name good in the industry, 0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.319 my name good. So it's like I can't really care 0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.480 about what nobody said about me because I ain't perfect. 0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:33.880 I'm gonna fuck up, of course. So if I embraced 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:35.840 my flaws and just try to be the best version 0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:37.759 of myself, I'm gonna always be good. And that's why 0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:41.520 I never feel into like internet shit because my name's solid, bro. 0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:43.400 It always been solid no matter what I did, what 0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:45.880 I was in the streets, every day, in the industry, 0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:49.480 at home, my name always been solid. With my flaws, 0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:52.080 with every fuck up I ever heard in my life, 0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:55.600 my name still always remained solid. And that's what's important 0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:57.920 to me. That's all I really care about. That's important, man. 0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:00.600 And I also think too, like you've done a good 0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.960 job of navigating the Internet era, which which was not 0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:09.000 necessarily present like it is now when you first got 0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:11.360 into your career. It definitely wasn't hell on all. The 0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:14.640 Internet presence was never like what it is now. Like 0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:17.359 nobody never when I first started doing music, even though 0:50:17.360 --> 0:50:20.680 the Internet was Instagram, MySpace and all that, nobody never 0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:23.080 really felt comfortable walking up on those street niggas when 0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:26.560 they phone out or that's a no no, automatically like 0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:29.440 people not even scared like that I'm gonna do something 0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:31.560 to them, smack their phone out there. I never done it. 0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:34.160 I swept my whole career. Can't. Nobody never say I 0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:36.600 smacked their phone out the head. I just embrace it, 0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:38.919 like damn you know, I could be sleep mad, having 0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:41.600 a bad day. I'm just like, damn you know, I 0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:44.160 either watch out or I'm gonna and break you feel me? 0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:47.120 That was never cool. It ain't never been cool to 0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:49.120 walk up on nobody with your phone. I'll be having 0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:51.440 my kids. I could have my brand new baby walking 0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:53.760 through the airport walk up and do like it's crazy. 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.600 That's crazy to me, bro, and that's not cool. We 0:50:56.680 --> 0:51:00.760 need to not normalize that shit. Bro. That get people 0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:02.840 their space at the end of the day, because we 0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:05.520 all human. How would you feel if you're a regular 0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:09.480 person and your kid just in your arms and they 0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:12.600 like the kids shoes whatever, or people negative they may 0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:14.960 think your kid looks I've had a crack a joke. 0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:17.000 I've had that happen rapping at the grocery store when 0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:19.120 I had my son was a baby and they be 0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:20.560 like I've had people try to be like, oh, your 0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:23.920 baby's so cute to touch. I don't touch my I 0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:25.560 ain't with that. You feel what I'm saying, Like people 0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:27.080 will try to, like used to try to, like when 0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:28.600 my girl was pregnant, they used to always try to 0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:31.680 touch our stomach and I'll be don't do that. I 0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:33.800 don't know, I ain't with that. Are you the grandma? 0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.439 Are you the auntie? And he don't bring that ship 0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:38.680 you feel me? But people feel welcome enough to do that, 0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:40.960 and then I'm the bad guy. Oh her push me. 0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:43.120 I tried, that's my baby right there. I don't know 0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:45.719 what the fuck you into? I really do something to you. 0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:47.960 You're trying to touch my girl's stomach while she's pregnant. 0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:49.640 You feel me. But at the end of the day, 0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:51.920 we all human, So you gotta understand that, bro, you 0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:54.319 gotta really understand where a nigga comes from when he does. 0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:58.840 I want to ask you this because I think, you know, 0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:03.520 one of the main components that kind of people when 0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:07.880 they think about early Chicago days. Not early Chicago in general, 0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:09.800 because you know, we can go back to like Twist 0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:12.000 and Common and all that shit, but like in terms 0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:16.120 of the just the drill movement. You know, Chief Keeth 0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:19.799 obviously kicked the door down. I saw you talk about 0:52:19.840 --> 0:52:22.840 kind of his influence in what Charlamayne and said, and 0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:24.640 you're going to see Charlemagne this weekend. Shout out to 0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:29.520 my guy. I wonder. I know some people had felt 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:32.560 a certain type of way about when Academics was doing 0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:35.440 the warre Inn Chirac shit. Around that time. You were 0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:38.480 probably a lot more present in some of that ship. Yeah. 0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:41.560 Was that something that you guys paid attention to or 0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:45.359 was it something you thought added to the violence? Yeah, 0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:48.200 definitely added to the violence. And I got a one 0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:50.080 on one with academics too. We could talk about this, 0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:52.040 you know what I'm saying, Academics my brother, I'll fuck 0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:54.200 with him, you know what I'm saying. But what you 0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:59.279 thought Academics was from Chicago? Yeah, yeah, he I ain't 0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:02.239 from chicag bro. And he's speaking on this ship in 0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:05.240 a way where it's like Jersey got a hood, Jersey 0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:07.440 got the trenches, Jersey got rappers all this. You're not 0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:09.480 speaking on this shit because you from that. These people 0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:12.640 really know you. I feel like, in my opinion, you 0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:14.799 know you're not gonna speak so much on what's going 0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:17.960 on in Jersey, even though Chicago had the bigger spotlight 0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:19.759 on him and it was something to talk about. But 0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:21.120 at the end of the day, you don't know how 0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:24.280 many people lost their lives outside of the Internet about 0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:26.840 some shit you talking about. You calling a nigga, You 0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:29.320 calling Recye the grim Reaper like a nigga. Want to 0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:32.680 kill him just because you calling him that. You call 0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:35.040 a nigga the grim Reaper, Nigga the grim Reaper. You 0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:37.160 don't supposed to call no man the grim Reaper. You 0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:40.200 feel saying the grim Reaper is a representation of death, 0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:43.000 and you calling this man that they got a family, 0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:45.640 they got kids, they got a mother, they got sister 0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:48.160 that people got. But he was young. I get him that. 0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:50.080 I give him credit. He was just on the outside 0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:52.160 looking in and there was something to talk about and 0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:54.040 it built his platform to this day. I'm not gonna 0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:56.000 knock him for that, but at the end of the day, 0:53:56.560 --> 0:53:58.680 a lot of that shit made a big difference in 0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:01.800 what's going on now. We didn't know who Academics was. 0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:05.319 We thought Academics was from Chicago because he knew so much. 0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:08.279 But that's somebody that was just in tune with what 0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:10.719 we're doing because we broadcasted it. So we gotta hold 0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:14.719 ourselves accountable in the music exactly we broadcasted this ship. 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:16.600 So I'm gonna be a man and say, yeah, we 0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:19.480 started it. For sure, we initiated it. But at the 0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:21.239 end of the day, we were just kids and this 0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:24.040 was our reality. We didn't never look at this shit like, oh, 0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:26.440 we put these guns on Internet, we're gonna get famous. 0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:29.600 It was just cameras were just cameras around videos and 0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.600 started rapping. We just embracing our life. Soon as that 0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:35.760 camera went down, we ain't put them guns in storage. Motherfuckers, 0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:38.120 was right. On the block with us and were protecting 0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:41.080 our life. That's what we was up against. And people 0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:42.839 got to understand that, and a lot of people lost 0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:45.000 their life to that, And that's a lot of reasons 0:54:45.040 --> 0:54:47.560 why people react and behave the way they do. You 0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:50.360 know what I'm saying. Yeah, I think I understand like them, uh, 0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:54.319 because I know vic vic vic menta like he was not. 0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:55.600 I mean, I know a lot of people who have, 0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.520 you know, negative connotations towards academics. Rightfully, so a lot 0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:01.000 of people do. But I think at that time, I 0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:03.239 don't know if he understood the gravity of what he 0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:05.000 was doing, I would give him the I would give 0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:07.400 him the benefit to say he didn't understand what he 0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:09.719 was doing at that time. I'm not sure he ever 0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:14.080 knew he'd be on camera. Yeah, Like we know, academics 0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:16.719 is like a personality in hip hop as to where 0:55:16.800 --> 0:55:18.840 like then he was just the voice that was just 0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:20.919 you know, kind of narrating on camera. But yeah, nobody 0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:22.520 knew how he looked when he was doing that. He 0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:25.279 didn't show his face, right, And I think that's one 0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:27.360 of the reasons why he didn't. He didn't want nobody 0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:29.600 know how he looked. He ain't want nobody know who 0:55:29.640 --> 0:55:31.960 he was because the shit he was doing. Bro, I 0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:33.719 ain't gonna lie, and you gotta I'm gonna talk. I'm 0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:35.279 gonna talk to him when we say that for real, 0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:38.160 Like you gotta really hold yourself accountable for what you've 0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:40.319 done and the same responsible for a lot of this shit, 0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:42.040 the same way that we are as are. I think 0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:45.600 that's what important is the I think I think anybody 0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:47.799 who's a grown ass man, Look, man, if you were 0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:50.479 nineteen twenty making YouTube videos, you should at least own 0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:53.920 whatever to own him. I was nineteen twenty and I'm 0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:56.480 talking about the shit I'm up against, or eighteen seventeen 0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:58.279 when I wasn't talking about nothing, and if I want 0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:00.719 somebody to go outside and kill somebody, and even talking 0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:02.319 about some shit because I have just seen my best 0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:04.439 friend get his fucking head blown up. It's crazy even 0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:07.000 just the influence of like those videos, like because now 0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:10.200 there's so many YouTube channels and their whole stick is 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:14.160 talking over clips that we don't know what these people 0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:17.120 look like. We just know that they're covering whatever city's 0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:19.360 bullshit that's going on. Like it'd be hard for me 0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:21.319 to touch on it because it's so close to home. 0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:24.040 Of course, that's a sensitive subject. You feel what I'm saying, 0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:26.160 Like I lost a lot of people that I really love. 0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.960 I mean, like you said, it's behind the streets, right, 0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:34.160 you feel me? What is your opinion on when you 0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:38.640 come from a place like Chicago, where a lot of 0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:44.760 conflict is rooted from a very real place. I feel 0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:48.680 like the last few years we've seen hip hop beef 0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:52.200 people who aren't from the same place, not even anyone 0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:55.600 specifically exactly, but people who aren't even from the same state, 0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:58.680 people who do not grow up around each other have 0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:03.759 serious beef. That's equal bloodshed, life being lost. Like, to me, 0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:06.160 it's like a shame when I see that shit. It's 0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:08.840 like really and a lot of it is the Internet, 0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:12.080 the IG, the Twitter, all this shit, But like you know, 0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.520 I just feel like we got to figure out a 0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:17.120 way to try to nip that kind of shit in 0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:19.840 the butt. Like if someone's from the same place and 0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:25.240 they got's cool, it's not even cool. I'm not cool, understandable, 0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:28.360 but the rap beef shit, I'm like, man, especially if 0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:30.960 it's from people who come from a place where they 0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:33.560 know what beef is. It's like, what's the point of 0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:36.840 like having like a real beef with another rapper who's 0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:39.720 not even from where you're from exactly. I feel like 0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:43.320 it's unnecessary in any way, you know what I'm saying. 0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:45.600 And that's why I try to like stay in my 0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:48.680 lane because I understand. I understand it, I get it. 0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:51.840 I get why people have differences and they think like, oh, 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:54.080 I just react this way. And maybe sometimes they go 0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:56.440 straight to the Internet, which make it even more bigger 0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:58.920 because they not from the same state. That's the only 0:57:59.000 --> 0:58:01.360 form of communication at that point. So it's like you 0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:03.400 making shit bigger than what it is instead of just 0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:06.320 getting on the phone. A lot of niggas avoid getting 0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:08.800 on the phone. A lot of niggas avoid being accountable 0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:10.640 for their actions. A lot of niggas scared to get 0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:12.960 on that phone and say, damn all, I bet this 0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:14.880 is what it is, this is a misunderstanding. Well, maybe 0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:17.680 we should link right here and we could settle it. 0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:19.440 You know, a lot of niggas get on that Internet, 0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:22.760 and it's like and it shit could be something as 0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:24.840 simple as a phone call. Two niggas getting on the 0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:28.280 phone that don't nobody know, nobody, nobody even need to 0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:30.280 know the nature of the conversation. But when you go 0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:32.479 on the internet and you said something about this nigga, 0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:34.520 you don't know, it's a hundred other niggas that love him, 0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:36.640 you know what, probably not even on that, but a 0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:38.600 hundred other niggas that love him. Now you can't even 0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:40.600 do a show in this city. You can't do this, 0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:43.320 you can't do that, And it become real beef when 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:45.400 y'all ain't from the city and it ain't no blood shit, 0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:48.840 it becomes bloodshit over prize the Internet. And you know what, 0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:50.240 I think some people are scared to get on the 0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:52.880 phone because they're afraid of this internet shit on the 0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:55.040 other side of it filming in corner. But at the 0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.440 end of the day, it's like, if you confident as 0:58:57.480 --> 0:59:00.919 a man, if you on the phone saying some sucker shit, 0:59:01.520 --> 0:59:05.080 that ain't that's your problem. If you're on the NSC nigga, 0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:06.400 I'm this and none of that, then you get on 0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:08.360 the phone and say some sucker ship you deserve to 0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:11.200 get recorded. But if you're on the phone being a man, 0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:14.200 that being solid. Yeah, it ain't even that serious. Bro. 0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:17.280 I feel like you did this, I did this. Fuck it, 0:59:17.320 --> 0:59:19.600 It's cool, bro. It ain't even no thing. I don't 0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:21.800 feel like less of a man because everybody's in the 0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:23.680 same cities. You end up in LA, you end up 0:59:23.720 --> 0:59:25.920 in Atlanta. You ain't like on New York for that, 0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:27.320 you know what I'm saying. I want to have those 0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:30.600 allies with people. If I go to Atlanta, I need 0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:32.560 to be able to call somebody in Atlanta that I 0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:34.560 fuck with. If I'm strengded, not even got nothing to 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:36.640 do with, no street shit. If I'm stranded, I need 0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:38.840 a it's good to go to this restaurant right here. No, 0:59:39.080 --> 0:59:42.520 it ain't, you know what I'm saying, La Saint Louis, 0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:45.560 New Orleans, wherever I'm at, Vice versa. Bro, you gotta 0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:47.760 build it, especially being an artist. It's like, ain't no 0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:50.600 such thing as being on your own. I don't believe 0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:53.440 in that, Bro. I feel like we're all stronger together, period. 0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:56.760 So I don't believe in that rap this like that. 0:59:56.840 --> 0:59:59.120 They never raped this. The nigga from our city. I 0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:01.640 definitely ain't fro the be for the niggas from another city. 1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:03.720 What the fuck I'm doing that for? The more gangster 1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:05.680 shit is to get on the phone. Get on the phone, 1:00:05.800 --> 1:00:07.919 Get on the phone. That's the real gangster ship though. 1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:10.320 All the internet the gangster ship. Get on the phone, 1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:12.919 talk to what's up? What's going on? Bro? What's the word? 1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:15.959 We're good, it's cool, it's cool. Or if it really 1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:18.040 is a difference, let's link up and solve it. Or 1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:20.000 if it's gonna whatever, it's gonna be, keep it off 1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:22.400 the internet. Let's do this amongst men. So at the 1:00:22.520 --> 1:00:25.560 end of the day, our family safe, our friends safe, 1:00:26.000 --> 1:00:29.160 our name safe, our brand, our career is safe. We 1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:31.200 could continue getting as much. Let's just talk about this 1:00:31.240 --> 1:00:34.040 shit as men, and that's what we missing. 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Man, shout shoe 1:02:52.880 --> 1:02:56.120 shay man. She made me this. We shout out to 1:02:56.160 --> 1:03:05.320 tequila man, the pandemic drink all these tequila brands. Oh 1:03:05.480 --> 1:03:10.800 fucking Covid nineteen if Covid nineteen was like, migos, owe 1:03:10.840 --> 1:03:13.840 me a check first and foremost check in for I 1:03:14.000 --> 1:03:17.720 check out. Man, you got about ten days to respond, 1:03:18.120 --> 1:03:20.959 you know, go on. You know who's George. That's George 1:03:21.000 --> 1:03:23.200 Clooney's side to Q. Yeah he sold it. He sold it, 1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:25.480 actually did he? Yeah? He sold it. Shit good fod 1:03:25.600 --> 1:03:29.120 cash out as he should. Yeah, yeah, as he should 1:03:29.240 --> 1:03:33.680 cash out. This album? You you did the two side. 1:03:34.880 --> 1:03:37.000 If it was fucking two thousand and six, it'd be 1:03:37.000 --> 1:03:40.080 a double disc, right, Yeah, so it's a double album. 1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:44.080 What was the motivation behind doing that? Because I don't 1:03:44.080 --> 1:03:46.440 feel like we see that a lot anymore. Yeah, it 1:03:46.520 --> 1:03:49.880 took for me to really get out here and here 1:03:49.880 --> 1:03:52.080 for other people that it's like people haven't really been 1:03:52.120 --> 1:03:55.760 doing this shit. But my whole inspiration behind the double 1:03:55.840 --> 1:04:00.160 album was bro. I put so much like time for 1:04:00.280 --> 1:04:04.880 into the music and what I'm trying to the message 1:04:04.880 --> 1:04:07.360 I'm trying to get across behind Survivors Mores, you know, 1:04:07.440 --> 1:04:09.320 like the shit that I'm talking about when the interviews 1:04:09.520 --> 1:04:11.800 is deep, I can't really talk about through my music, 1:04:11.880 --> 1:04:14.480 like right, you know what I'm saying rappers don't really 1:04:14.560 --> 1:04:17.680 do like and to lose and skits and shit no more. 1:04:17.720 --> 1:04:19.040 You know what I'm saying. But I really do want 1:04:19.080 --> 1:04:20.720 to get back to that. To be honest, I want 1:04:20.720 --> 1:04:23.200 to get back to skits and shit. So when y'all 1:04:23.240 --> 1:04:25.280 start doing all that shit, man, don't be trying to 1:04:25.320 --> 1:04:28.040 bite my sauce. You feel what I'm saying. But anyways, 1:04:28.600 --> 1:04:30.760 I feel the whole point of me doing that was 1:04:31.880 --> 1:04:39.080 to create that that that that atmosphere of the survivor side, 1:04:39.160 --> 1:04:41.200 the triumph side, you know what I'm saying, Like it's 1:04:41.200 --> 1:04:43.240 a it's triumph for me when I wake up and 1:04:43.240 --> 1:04:45.480 I'm able to get into all my cars, and you 1:04:45.520 --> 1:04:47.560 know what I'm saying, to be able to like Throughout 1:04:47.640 --> 1:04:50.600 my career, I never really blended with my peers musically, 1:04:50.680 --> 1:04:53.640 like I've been knowing Future. I've been fucking future future 1:04:53.680 --> 1:04:56.000 and been on my on a the hood game. I 1:04:56.040 --> 1:04:58.480 didn't put up on Future on Seny third and Kingston 1:04:58.880 --> 1:05:01.440 or Nigga thirty feet away from my grandma house. That 1:05:01.480 --> 1:05:04.000 I'm saying, I can't even go right there. You feel 1:05:04.000 --> 1:05:05.480 what I'm saying. I didn't put up on the future 1:05:05.560 --> 1:05:07.280 right there before. He didn't have been in my hood. 1:05:07.640 --> 1:05:09.400 I've been fucking with future, you know, what I'm saying, 1:05:09.440 --> 1:05:13.560 Like I've been fucking with Meek saying, been having me 1:05:13.560 --> 1:05:15.680 and Kodak was on the Freshman cover together. This is 1:05:15.720 --> 1:05:19.200 our first song ever doing together cover. I've been having 1:05:19.240 --> 1:05:22.480 a like interactions with off sets and hey Boogie, that's 1:05:22.520 --> 1:05:25.080 my brother. He been on been on two three of 1:05:25.120 --> 1:05:27.640 my albums. You fee what I'm saying. But I'm saying 1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:31.160 I all let to say like I never embraced my 1:05:31.320 --> 1:05:36.080 true rapper stardom or me being she HEARDing people fuck them. 1:05:36.120 --> 1:05:38.160 I know they fuck with me because I'm around them. 1:05:38.400 --> 1:05:41.160 I'm in the studio with these niggas building relationship. I 1:05:41.200 --> 1:05:42.960 never really told nobody to get on the song or 1:05:43.000 --> 1:05:44.120 none of that. You know what I'm saying. But at 1:05:44.120 --> 1:05:45.520 the end of the day, I know they fucked me. 1:05:45.560 --> 1:05:47.920 I could have always like make a tell you throughout 1:05:47.920 --> 1:05:50.640 my career. He always like, bro, go get songs from 1:05:50.720 --> 1:05:53.200 these niggas. Do songs. I'm telling them like, yeah, shit, 1:05:53.240 --> 1:05:54.960 I was just in the Steward, Bro, what you was 1:05:54.960 --> 1:05:56.960 on today? I'm in the Steward Pluto. I was in 1:05:56.960 --> 1:06:00.520 Steward thug me with chilling like, wh I ain't no song. 1:06:00.600 --> 1:06:02.160 I'm like, shit, I ain't even asking for no song 1:06:02.280 --> 1:06:04.000 to be honest, but you know what, that's me. That's 1:06:04.040 --> 1:06:07.520 also also like that's why people fuck with you because 1:06:07.520 --> 1:06:10.280 it's a genuine friendship. It's not something I'm just trying 1:06:10.320 --> 1:06:12.040 to fuck with niggas and vibe out because at the 1:06:12.120 --> 1:06:13.920 end of the day, I know I'm good. I'm building 1:06:13.960 --> 1:06:16.880 my shit for sure. For sure when it come to 1:06:17.000 --> 1:06:20.120 me building my own, I'm gonna do that. And I 1:06:20.160 --> 1:06:23.000 ain't never really ask nobody to help me do that, 1:06:23.040 --> 1:06:25.960 you know what I'm saying. So for me to do that, 1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:28.600 the survivor side is really like a moment of triumph, 1:06:28.720 --> 1:06:31.320 Like I feel like now I'm able to do that 1:06:31.360 --> 1:06:33.960 because my thought process is different, Like sometimes I just 1:06:34.000 --> 1:06:36.440 want to be around niggas and get inspiration because I 1:06:36.480 --> 1:06:38.880 gotta go right back to the churches after this. Now 1:06:38.920 --> 1:06:41.480 that I'm living life a little differently, I felt like 1:06:41.560 --> 1:06:44.320 it's easy for me to interact with my peers a 1:06:44.400 --> 1:06:47.000 little differently, you know what I'm saying. So that was 1:06:47.040 --> 1:06:50.360 the survivor side of it, just me and like embracing 1:06:50.360 --> 1:06:53.080 the fact that I am that nigga, I am g herbo, 1:06:53.120 --> 1:06:54.720 you feel I'm saying, I could get in the studio 1:06:54.800 --> 1:06:56.760 with the best of them, and I could hold my 1:06:56.800 --> 1:06:58.720 own weight or I could be around the best of them, 1:06:58.720 --> 1:07:00.800 and like, I'm really having my way for real. You 1:07:00.800 --> 1:07:03.600 feel what I'm saying. I got cribs in La Cars, 1:07:03.760 --> 1:07:05.280 I got all the shit to just you know what 1:07:05.320 --> 1:07:07.680 I'm saying talk about I never really talked about that shit. 1:07:07.720 --> 1:07:10.400 You feel me. That's crazy that that's the first record 1:07:10.400 --> 1:07:12.800 you have a Kodak, Yeah, the Ya Kodak And we 1:07:12.840 --> 1:07:15.360 was Freshman Covers on the Freshman cover together and I 1:07:15.400 --> 1:07:16.960 fuck with Kodak. Shout out to bro. You feel what 1:07:16.920 --> 1:07:19.320 I'm saying, Like when we really like connected on some 1:07:19.960 --> 1:07:21.640 man and man shit, I fuck with him. He had 1:07:21.720 --> 1:07:25.880 good nigga, you know. And you know, the remorse side 1:07:25.920 --> 1:07:29.040 of it is me understanding everything that I come from. 1:07:29.080 --> 1:07:31.440 The remorse side of knowing, like that's the reason that 1:07:31.600 --> 1:07:34.520 the remorse side is the reason why I never really 1:07:34.560 --> 1:07:36.800 embraced going to hang with other artists. So I never 1:07:36.880 --> 1:07:39.120 flexed the fact that I always hit a nice ass 1:07:39.160 --> 1:07:42.720 condo downtown. I always had jury, I always had money. 1:07:42.760 --> 1:07:44.439 I was always able to afford the shit. I didn't 1:07:44.440 --> 1:07:47.320 really brag about it because it's people that I really 1:07:47.360 --> 1:07:49.880 care about that can't afford their luxury, and I was 1:07:49.880 --> 1:07:52.960 thinking for them and for a long time, but at 1:07:53.000 --> 1:07:54.640 the end of the day, I realized I gotta think 1:07:54.680 --> 1:07:57.880 for myself, and I could never help anybody unless I 1:07:57.920 --> 1:08:00.600 think for myself. Because I'm the leader, I'm the I'm 1:08:00.600 --> 1:08:02.120 the one that's finna go out and go get all 1:08:02.120 --> 1:08:04.160 the money and make this shit bigger than life. So 1:08:04.200 --> 1:08:07.720 I gotta think for myself. And sometimes it sounds selfish, 1:08:07.760 --> 1:08:09.800 but it's not, because I know I'm not a selfish person. 1:08:09.840 --> 1:08:11.520 I know for a fact I'm gonna always look out 1:08:11.560 --> 1:08:14.160 for my people, but I gotta think for myself first. 1:08:14.360 --> 1:08:17.719 And that's the remorse I understanding that, Damn I wasted 1:08:17.800 --> 1:08:20.280 so much time thinking about the wrong shit when I 1:08:20.320 --> 1:08:22.760 really should have just been thinking about myself the whole time, 1:08:22.760 --> 1:08:24.759 and this shit would have probably been ten times bigger 1:08:25.200 --> 1:08:28.799 this day. You feel me, And that's Survivors of Morse. 1:08:28.800 --> 1:08:30.840 That's why I did a double side of album because 1:08:30.880 --> 1:08:33.120 everything I lost along the way, I always been able 1:08:33.160 --> 1:08:35.200 to talk about it. I always talked about it, but 1:08:35.200 --> 1:08:37.280 people don't see like I done. Had a conversation with 1:08:37.320 --> 1:08:39.120 my Man's my homie Love when he from New Orleans. 1:08:39.160 --> 1:08:41.880 He like, Bro, you don't show shit like you don't 1:08:41.880 --> 1:08:43.920 show when you buy new cars. You don't show when 1:08:43.920 --> 1:08:46.120 you buy jury, you don't show when you got money 1:08:46.160 --> 1:08:48.519 on you. You don't show none of that because it 1:08:48.560 --> 1:08:50.760 don't excite me. It ain't nothing that I feel like 1:08:50.800 --> 1:08:53.040 I need to show. It ain't for nobody to see 1:08:53.120 --> 1:08:55.880 unless I'm finna show you how to get this shit. Yeah, 1:08:55.920 --> 1:08:57.479 I mean it's not. I think that's I think that's 1:08:57.479 --> 1:08:59.800 a positive that that you don't positive. I just think 1:08:59.840 --> 1:09:01.080 like that. But at the end of the day, I 1:09:01.080 --> 1:09:03.599 feel like I never did that because I always feel 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:05.799 like if you don't think I got this ship, you stupid. 1:09:05.920 --> 1:09:08.559 You don't think I'm really having my way out here, 1:09:08.560 --> 1:09:10.599 You really fucking dumb. I gotta put it in your 1:09:10.600 --> 1:09:13.720 face for real. I think that's why your ain't no 1:09:13.760 --> 1:09:15.360 point of me putting this in your face. You know 1:09:15.400 --> 1:09:18.280 what I'm saying. I could, you know, but I don't 1:09:18.280 --> 1:09:19.840 get nothing from it, So it's like, who am I 1:09:19.880 --> 1:09:22.519 doing it for me? All you get it don't satisfy me. 1:09:22.600 --> 1:09:25.040 Certain people would really satisfied, like, yeah, I gotta put 1:09:25.080 --> 1:09:28.160 in to make me feel good as a validation ship 1:09:28.200 --> 1:09:30.080 that ship don't make me feel good. It's a validation, 1:09:30.120 --> 1:09:32.400 you know what I'm saying. So it's like, that's the 1:09:32.479 --> 1:09:34.160 vivals of Morse for me, you know, to be able 1:09:34.160 --> 1:09:37.120 to be on both sides of the playing field. Bro, 1:09:37.360 --> 1:09:40.120 I still got people who I love that's in the trenches. Bro, 1:09:40.520 --> 1:09:42.599 my grandma died in the trenches. I could have been 1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:44.719 moved her. My grandma was into that type of ship. 1:09:44.760 --> 1:09:47.040 My grandma could have been living in whatever the funk 1:09:47.120 --> 1:09:48.840 she wanted through. I would have moved her before my mama. 1:09:49.000 --> 1:09:51.560 I make my mama live my grandma. You feel me 1:09:52.760 --> 1:09:55.400 together exactly. But my grandma wouldn't known that. She been 1:09:55.479 --> 1:09:57.200 told me before I ever hear any money. She said, 1:09:57.200 --> 1:10:00.320 I'm dying on Kingston. She meant that ship. She's I'm 1:10:00.360 --> 1:10:02.800 dying right here on this block. I'm not moving. You 1:10:02.800 --> 1:10:05.639 feel me. And I got aunt ties and all type 1:10:05.640 --> 1:10:07.840 of cousins and shit that's still in the trenches that 1:10:07.960 --> 1:10:10.120 don't want that though. They want to get out. So 1:10:10.280 --> 1:10:12.400 them the people who I care about, my friends and 1:10:12.400 --> 1:10:14.720 shit like that. You know what I'm saying. But it's 1:10:14.800 --> 1:10:17.880 just it's hard being on both you know, being on 1:10:17.920 --> 1:10:20.000 both sides of the field. Where you like you're a 1:10:20.080 --> 1:10:22.120 leader here being the leader there, you know what I'm saying, 1:10:22.120 --> 1:10:24.040 where it's like I'm the leader of my household, I'm 1:10:24.040 --> 1:10:26.519 the leader of everybody that really depends on me, and 1:10:26.920 --> 1:10:29.000 not even the leader like in the trenches of the streets, 1:10:29.000 --> 1:10:32.080 I'm the leader because I'm the vessel, the person that 1:10:32.120 --> 1:10:34.920 they looking at, like, damn, he could really change our situation, 1:10:35.320 --> 1:10:38.240 you feel me, But I can only I feel the 1:10:38.280 --> 1:10:41.320 more I elevated, the more I like learn life, I 1:10:41.360 --> 1:10:45.200 could only provide somebody opportunity. Talk about the school that 1:10:45.240 --> 1:10:49.799 you own, Yeah, because I think that's dope. Over to school. 1:10:49.840 --> 1:10:51.960 I partner, you know, me and my partners. We got 1:10:51.960 --> 1:10:54.960 a school. It's in Chicago, right, yeah, on the South side, 1:10:55.040 --> 1:10:57.120 on the South side of Chicago, like in the hard 1:10:57.200 --> 1:11:00.519 you feel I'm saying, And that was just something that 1:11:00.600 --> 1:11:02.639 you know, I was like, I was hands on, don't 1:11:02.640 --> 1:11:05.120 get me wrong, but it was just like a good idea. 1:11:05.200 --> 1:11:07.800 Then they're like, all right, bet investing this ship. You 1:11:07.840 --> 1:11:10.080 feel what I'm saying, And we got the school. But 1:11:10.280 --> 1:11:14.360 it was important to me because I come from youth centers. 1:11:14.680 --> 1:11:16.720 I come from you know, Sandy six and Phillips c 1:11:16.840 --> 1:11:20.200 why I see you know my auntie, my aunt, my 1:11:20.280 --> 1:11:23.360 aunt Micheline, she enrolled me in the center when I 1:11:23.439 --> 1:11:25.080 was a kid, to just get me out of trouble, 1:11:25.120 --> 1:11:27.760 get you the way on Live j T. That was 1:11:27.840 --> 1:11:31.080 like a father figure for me growing up. And he 1:11:31.160 --> 1:11:33.920 died like the worst of the worst kids of the neighborhood. 1:11:34.000 --> 1:11:37.559 Like not worse, but like we wasn't bad kids. We 1:11:37.560 --> 1:11:40.519 was just trouble kids who was in poverty and under 1:11:40.560 --> 1:11:42.960 certain circumstances. We wasn't bad kids, bro. If we would 1:11:42.960 --> 1:11:45.799 have stayed in that ship and we had somebody like myself, 1:11:45.840 --> 1:11:49.759 a Dereck Rose or Kanye or somebody who who whoever 1:11:49.800 --> 1:11:51.400 the fuck it could have been, to come right here 1:11:51.439 --> 1:11:53.559 and show us like hell no, we finna get y'all 1:11:53.560 --> 1:11:56.200 the resources to be great. I guarantee you a lot 1:11:56.200 --> 1:11:58.320 of us would have came out millionaires. By the way, 1:11:58.439 --> 1:12:02.240 this lawyer's artists, NBA players. When that shit got tooken 1:12:02.280 --> 1:12:04.439 away from us, a lot of us died, a lot 1:12:04.479 --> 1:12:06.320 of us went to jail, a lot of us just 1:12:06.360 --> 1:12:08.519 turned to the streets. You feel I'm saying so I 1:12:08.640 --> 1:12:10.800 believe in that my first time ever going to an 1:12:10.880 --> 1:12:13.839 NBA game ever going out of this fucking to some account, 1:12:14.240 --> 1:12:17.680 was through that center. So that's why I invested in 1:12:17.840 --> 1:12:20.879 the school to turn that into that for the positive, 1:12:21.320 --> 1:12:23.960 something place for people to get out of the streets 1:12:24.000 --> 1:12:27.479 and to find a trade. Like whether we're gonna put 1:12:27.479 --> 1:12:29.479 a studio in there. We're gonna have arts in there, 1:12:30.080 --> 1:12:35.280 culinary in there, We're gonna have a fucking what's the 1:12:35.560 --> 1:12:40.320 colding computer code? It's important, videoography, whatever you want to do. 1:12:40.400 --> 1:12:41.880 I don't care if we don't even got a room 1:12:41.960 --> 1:12:44.720 for whatever you want to do. If you it's a 1:12:44.760 --> 1:12:48.840 practical trade, We're gonna put the practical trade resource engineering, 1:12:49.080 --> 1:12:52.160 because not everybody being the rapper and you're not gonna come. 1:12:52.200 --> 1:12:53.760 We're not gonna come in for our call and say, 1:12:53.760 --> 1:12:55.559 hey man, I need you to come teach these kids. 1:12:55.760 --> 1:12:57.439 Whether I pay you or where you're doing off the 1:12:57.439 --> 1:13:00.519 love niggas fuck with me. Somebody gonna come and show 1:13:00.600 --> 1:13:03.080 these something tangible. Like I'm in the hood all the time. 1:13:03.160 --> 1:13:05.599 I don't brag on it on record, I'm in Chicago, 1:13:05.800 --> 1:13:07.800 but I'm there all the time, and I'll let people 1:13:07.840 --> 1:13:10.559 see me. I'll let kids see me because I'm something 1:13:10.960 --> 1:13:15.439 that they look at as an influenceer role model. But 1:13:15.479 --> 1:13:17.479 they don't have to look from on the internet. They 1:13:17.479 --> 1:13:20.240 don't got to see me bad and be like, damn, 1:13:20.280 --> 1:13:22.400 I want a car. Fuck, I don't even know how 1:13:22.400 --> 1:13:25.800 to get this shit. I'm gonna rob you feel me. No, 1:13:25.920 --> 1:13:28.439 you don't gotta do that. I'm gonna show you how 1:13:28.479 --> 1:13:30.000 to get this ship and they I'll show you how 1:13:30.000 --> 1:13:33.200 to make cars, build cars, whatever you want to do. 1:13:33.240 --> 1:13:35.280 I'm gonna put right here for you so you can 1:13:35.360 --> 1:13:37.880 have your innocence, so you could keep your charisma, so 1:13:37.920 --> 1:13:40.160 you could build your talent, build a trade and be 1:13:40.240 --> 1:13:42.960 the best you you could be. That's what's important for 1:13:43.000 --> 1:13:45.479 me because if it wasn't for rap, if it wasn't 1:13:45.520 --> 1:13:48.559 for me just being chosen by God, I'd be dead 1:13:48.640 --> 1:13:51.360 on jail. Bro. God is the reason why I'm here 1:13:51.400 --> 1:13:54.840 right now. We got to think about too, like you know, 1:13:56.080 --> 1:13:58.880 not just in bad neighborhoods, but just period. Like I 1:13:58.920 --> 1:14:02.800 think like trade schools got to be more prevalent because like, 1:14:02.840 --> 1:14:05.040 think about it, like, bro, Bro, first of all, you 1:14:05.080 --> 1:14:07.200 go to college a deep subject, but I can talk 1:14:07.200 --> 1:14:09.640 about it, talk about it. I feel it in my 1:14:09.760 --> 1:14:11.760 chest when not talking. Just think about this, like if 1:14:11.800 --> 1:14:15.200 you go to college for some bullshit degree that you 1:14:15.320 --> 1:14:17.120 end up racking up a quarter a million dollars in 1:14:17.160 --> 1:14:19.720 a student dead and then you're making eighty grand a 1:14:19.800 --> 1:14:23.040 year entry level. It's like, wodn't like what did you do? 1:14:23.920 --> 1:14:26.639 Isn't the more practical thing to be? Like, I want 1:14:26.640 --> 1:14:29.200 to be a graphic designer. I want to be an electrician. 1:14:29.479 --> 1:14:31.760 I want like these are things that like you know, 1:14:32.320 --> 1:14:35.479 are like, don't take as much band with, don't put 1:14:35.479 --> 1:14:38.920 you in a financially fucked place, and like not everyone's 1:14:38.920 --> 1:14:41.880 built for college. We'd be pushing this college shit because 1:14:41.880 --> 1:14:44.200 it's a big business not and it's like the certain 1:14:44.240 --> 1:14:47.479 it's like we're having somebody like myself or having the 1:14:47.520 --> 1:14:49.800 resources where you want to be electrician, you want to 1:14:49.840 --> 1:14:53.840 be uh, somebody had their own construct barber, a constructor 1:14:54.080 --> 1:14:57.360 contract or whatever. You could be a barber that really 1:14:58.400 --> 1:15:01.200 but you you build your so much? Now you are 1:15:01.800 --> 1:15:06.439 a million dollar Yeah now you onw ten't for just 1:15:06.520 --> 1:15:09.519 learning how to capitalize off this ship? Bro. By the 1:15:09.560 --> 1:15:12.280 time you thirty five, you a million dollar nigga. You 1:15:12.400 --> 1:15:15.559 got twenty barber shops. Yep, I'm twenty seven years old. 1:15:15.560 --> 1:15:17.760 If I would have did anything else the same way 1:15:17.800 --> 1:15:19.760 that I would have been able to chase rap and 1:15:19.800 --> 1:15:21.680 chase my dreams and just be better and better and 1:15:21.680 --> 1:15:23.439 better and better every year. I would have been a 1:15:23.439 --> 1:15:25.800 million that regardless, because I got this got it in you. Yeah, 1:15:27.320 --> 1:15:29.280 you've been a millionaire. Whatever the fuck I did. You 1:15:29.320 --> 1:15:31.479 feel what I'm saying. But now I choose this, I'm 1:15:31.479 --> 1:15:34.920 gonna be a billionaire. I'm one hundred million out this shit. Yeah, man, 1:15:35.120 --> 1:15:37.760 So with me being that, I could spread it. I 1:15:37.800 --> 1:15:42.320 could make ten fifteen millionaires off the muscle. Just hunh. 1:15:42.840 --> 1:15:44.640 You had this shit. It ain't gonna take nothing from me. 1:15:45.160 --> 1:15:47.240 I'm already good. I promise I'm good. I Aint gonna 1:15:47.240 --> 1:15:49.080 never have to do shit. My kids ain't gonna never 1:15:49.080 --> 1:15:50.320 have to do shit. I ain't gonna never have to 1:15:50.320 --> 1:15:52.439 go back to the hood. Nothing right now. If I 1:15:52.439 --> 1:15:54.920 stop sharing, and I think it's why I stopped rapping 1:15:54.960 --> 1:15:56.800 the mom I'm gonna be good. I promise I'm gonna 1:15:56.840 --> 1:15:59.200 be great, my kids gonna be great, everybody gonna be great. 1:15:59.240 --> 1:16:01.679 I think it's a why would stop. Yeah, it's important 1:16:01.680 --> 1:16:04.160 to this. I can help y'all all get this ship. Yeah, 1:16:04.360 --> 1:16:06.320 I was gonna say most people don't. Most people don't 1:16:06.320 --> 1:16:08.000 have that mind state. They don't want to share the wealth. 1:16:08.680 --> 1:16:10.240 You know what I mean. The fact you're passionate about 1:16:10.240 --> 1:16:13.000 that is it is great because you know, if more 1:16:13.040 --> 1:16:15.720 people are passionate about that, like you said, imagine if 1:16:15.720 --> 1:16:17.880 there was thirty of you in Chicago instead of just 1:16:17.960 --> 1:16:21.120 you or that's you and whoever chances don't talk about 1:16:21.160 --> 1:16:22.960 it you feel, I'm saying because it can be well 1:16:22.960 --> 1:16:25.280 who else? I know there are other artists in Chicago 1:16:25.360 --> 1:16:28.080 that are helping Chance do a lot of shit. Dirt 1:16:28.120 --> 1:16:30.000 do a lot of shit behind the scene, Polo do 1:16:30.080 --> 1:16:31.880 a lot of shit. You found. I'm saying, but it 1:16:32.000 --> 1:16:34.240 need to be broadcasting. We need to come together and 1:16:34.280 --> 1:16:35.560 do this ship. See that's the kind of shit that 1:16:35.600 --> 1:16:37.840 should make blog. We should do some shit. Fuck it 1:16:38.120 --> 1:16:39.920 like I'm gonna say it here. We should do a show, 1:16:40.000 --> 1:16:44.639 a big ass show me Dirt, Chance, Polo, fucking Baby Keith, 1:16:44.760 --> 1:16:47.000 everybody come back to the United States. Do a big 1:16:47.040 --> 1:16:49.559 ass show and give all the proceeds to LORI Life 1:16:49.560 --> 1:16:52.320 Foot and get that ship to all the schools, get 1:16:52.320 --> 1:16:55.040 that ship to the mayor and whatever we need to 1:16:55.080 --> 1:16:57.800 do it. I'm curious, how do we feel about Lori life. 1:16:57.880 --> 1:17:00.560 I love Lorid life. You probably have a real relationship 1:17:00.560 --> 1:17:02.559 with her. I do. I feel like if for people 1:17:02.600 --> 1:17:06.840 who aren't from Chicago or don't pay attention to like 1:17:07.040 --> 1:17:08.800 what actually is going on there, we just see like 1:17:08.880 --> 1:17:11.439 memes and ship and like, you know, I think the 1:17:11.479 --> 1:17:14.040 memes is just like something funny. But I've literally never 1:17:14.479 --> 1:17:17.759 heard anybody say anything like she's solid. Yeah, she's solid 1:17:17.800 --> 1:17:20.080 in the city. She's solid. She don't do no funck shit, 1:17:20.400 --> 1:17:22.320 you know what I'm saying. Excuse my language. She don't 1:17:22.360 --> 1:17:26.280 do nothing, nothing that is not beneficial to her people. 1:17:26.840 --> 1:17:28.280 And I love her for that. Well, I want to, 1:17:28.280 --> 1:17:30.599 because I feel like there's like the wrong narrative about 1:17:30.600 --> 1:17:33.680 her sometimes now, she don't do nothing that's not beneficial 1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:36.439 to her people or to the city of Chicago in general. 1:17:36.720 --> 1:17:38.519 You feel I'm saying, it ain't just about the trenches. 1:17:38.520 --> 1:17:41.519 She looking out for the city of Chicago, and it's 1:17:41.560 --> 1:17:45.360 beneficial on all ends. And that's very poverty struck neighborhood, 1:17:46.040 --> 1:17:47.799 the rich neighbor it's such a it's such a company, 1:17:48.439 --> 1:17:51.360 the entrepreneurs. It's a very complicated city. To overlook, it's 1:17:51.400 --> 1:17:54.519 a very complicated city. You gotta imagine if you go 1:17:54.560 --> 1:17:56.880 to the North Side, what she they own to ask 1:17:57.000 --> 1:17:59.800 about Konjack is this and it's small at ship and 1:17:59.840 --> 1:18:02.840 it's like she can't do nothing about that. When they 1:18:02.840 --> 1:18:06.439 come to the job, we got the most influenced. Ain't 1:18:06.439 --> 1:18:10.439 nobody in a fucking trick. It's gonna listen to Lory 1:18:10.560 --> 1:18:12.640 And even if they put like my thing is is 1:18:12.680 --> 1:18:13.960 like you know, a lot of people are like, well, 1:18:14.000 --> 1:18:18.160 you know, we always think of Chicago as like the 1:18:18.920 --> 1:18:23.560 whenever gun violence gets discussed, Chicago always gets brought up automatically, 1:18:23.600 --> 1:18:28.120 and it's like, I don't think like you'll see conservative 1:18:28.160 --> 1:18:31.080 politicians always use Chicago as like a fuck you to 1:18:31.120 --> 1:18:33.880 the left, like what about Chicago? And I think it's 1:18:34.080 --> 1:18:37.520 very like irresponsible because what they don't understand the reality 1:18:37.560 --> 1:18:41.080 of certain areas of this country, not just Chicago, but 1:18:41.160 --> 1:18:43.680 like putting more police on the South side of Chicago's 1:18:43.720 --> 1:18:45.479 not going to do anything. It's not It's going to 1:18:45.960 --> 1:18:49.200 make everything even more because at the end of the day, 1:18:49.560 --> 1:18:52.080 the police and I give I'm gonna give you credit 1:18:52.120 --> 1:18:54.960 on the outside looking in, you only looking at trying 1:18:55.040 --> 1:18:57.200 your job to try to make this ship better, which 1:18:57.200 --> 1:19:00.479 you don't fucking know how is with using force and 1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:04.000 a lot of these police aren't You're not from the neighborhood. 1:19:04.040 --> 1:19:05.880 You don't know these fucking kids from a candapaign. You're 1:19:05.880 --> 1:19:08.599 looking at them like they'll kill me immediately. Just how 1:19:08.600 --> 1:19:10.840 you thinking the police all kill you? They looking like 1:19:11.000 --> 1:19:14.640 he'll kill me because they're objectives to get home to 1:19:14.720 --> 1:19:17.720 their kids. Get home. The main objective is getting home. 1:19:17.800 --> 1:19:20.160 No matter what the fuck you do. The main objective 1:19:20.360 --> 1:19:21.880 is getting home. That's the name of the game. You 1:19:21.920 --> 1:19:25.479 feel what I'm saying, and I understand that. So it's 1:19:25.560 --> 1:19:29.519 like with understanding that you gotta think. With all the 1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:32.000 kids and the niggas that's carrying guns and doing all 1:19:32.000 --> 1:19:36.360 this wild shit, you gotta compare it to something simple 1:19:36.439 --> 1:19:39.360 like basketball. You feel me like when you a real 1:19:40.600 --> 1:19:43.280 elite athlete, you got that dog in you. When I 1:19:43.320 --> 1:19:45.800 get on that hardwood, I'm killing anybody. Don't give a 1:19:45.840 --> 1:19:47.559 fuck if you my favorite player. That's why I love 1:19:47.640 --> 1:19:50.160 John Morit. I don't give a fuck if you my favorite. 1:19:50.439 --> 1:19:52.720 If you get in front of me, well I'm trying 1:19:52.760 --> 1:19:54.880 to go. I want to go to the championship. That's 1:19:54.920 --> 1:19:58.439 the nigga. Getting home is the championship in the trenches, nigga, 1:19:58.439 --> 1:20:01.280 I'm gonna do whatever necessary. It's the championship of the trenchers, 1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:03.360 and it's also the championship of being a cop. I'm 1:20:03.400 --> 1:20:05.880 just saying, the cops in the trenches, that's your name 1:20:05.920 --> 1:20:07.800 of the game. The cops is in the trenches with us, 1:20:07.840 --> 1:20:09.559 that's the name of the game. I'm trying to win 1:20:09.600 --> 1:20:12.559 the championship. I gotta get home. So we're saying that. 1:20:12.640 --> 1:20:15.840 I'm saying, niggas, who all in when you're doing all 1:20:15.880 --> 1:20:17.760 this And I'm talking from the outside looking in, But 1:20:17.840 --> 1:20:21.519 I understand when niggas up against this shit and they 1:20:21.640 --> 1:20:24.160 carrying guns and they doing all this wild shit and 1:20:24.240 --> 1:20:26.080 all this killing, you know what. They trying to get 1:20:26.120 --> 1:20:28.880 to the championship. They trying to eliminate the competition to 1:20:29.000 --> 1:20:32.320 get home. That's why all the killing going on. Niggas 1:20:32.360 --> 1:20:34.000 want to get home, Bro. They don't want to carry 1:20:34.000 --> 1:20:35.680 them fucking guns. You' thinking they're going to end up 1:20:35.680 --> 1:20:37.479 in the county. You're thinking you want to go to jail. 1:20:37.479 --> 1:20:39.559 You're thinking that you want to die. Don't nobody want that. 1:20:39.560 --> 1:20:41.840 They want to live like me. Nigga want to live 1:20:41.880 --> 1:20:43.680 like me. How all the shit that I got going on, 1:20:43.880 --> 1:20:45.479 So I'm gonna show you how to live like me. 1:20:45.800 --> 1:20:48.720 Do you think Snoop did this in La where he 1:20:48.880 --> 1:20:51.840 had met with the sheriff, the LA County Sheriff, to 1:20:51.880 --> 1:20:55.000 try to help kind of bridge the gap between like 1:20:55.080 --> 1:20:58.240 maybe some of the misunderstandings between the police and the community. 1:20:58.280 --> 1:21:02.240 And obviously it's a very rough place when the cops 1:21:02.280 --> 1:21:04.920 ain't from the community. You know you. I always feel 1:21:04.920 --> 1:21:06.560 like when there's community policing where it's like, yo, this 1:21:06.640 --> 1:21:08.599 is where I'm from, I live, I grew up here, whatever, 1:21:08.680 --> 1:21:10.720 there's a lot more understanding, there's a lot more compassion. 1:21:11.640 --> 1:21:13.439 Would that ever be something you'd be interested in doing, 1:21:13.760 --> 1:21:17.680 like maybe trying to help assist like the police, not 1:21:17.800 --> 1:21:21.040 assist them to like arrest people, but a system understanding. 1:21:21.120 --> 1:21:24.040 Hell yeah, yeah that's important to me, bro, because we 1:21:24.080 --> 1:21:26.840 need police. If something happened to my mama, shave and 1:21:26.840 --> 1:21:30.680 the car on nobody but the fucking police. We need police, bro. 1:21:31.960 --> 1:21:35.679 We need responsible police, police responsible belie. We need police 1:21:35.720 --> 1:21:38.840 that's in the city that understand. We know your name, nigga, 1:21:38.880 --> 1:21:41.240 your mama live right here, she here, she good, Like 1:21:41.479 --> 1:21:43.000 That's how it used to be and they could get 1:21:43.040 --> 1:21:45.360 to that because I'm I come from a foundation. Bro. 1:21:45.600 --> 1:21:48.479 I used to I listen to my old my mama's stories, 1:21:48.520 --> 1:21:51.880 my daddy stories. Oh here stories were like the whole 1:21:51.920 --> 1:21:53.800 neighbor I used to when I was growing up. They say, 1:21:53.800 --> 1:21:56.320 the whole neighborhood, coul whoop your ass. You did something 1:21:56.479 --> 1:21:59.240 the neighbor being your ass right here. You finna get 1:21:59.280 --> 1:22:00.880 your ass beat right here in front of this house 1:22:00.880 --> 1:22:04.000 for doing something I got. I tell you neighbors, know 1:22:04.080 --> 1:22:06.040 your mama and try to come touch on these kids. 1:22:06.160 --> 1:22:11.000 They ain't gonna get your ass shot. It was back then, 1:22:11.160 --> 1:22:12.880 My mama and them said, the neighbors used to be 1:22:12.920 --> 1:22:16.040 able to beat they ass until yeah, he did this, 1:22:16.360 --> 1:22:18.200 told the mama. She thank you, and then you're getting 1:22:18.200 --> 1:22:21.080 your ass used to get to guarantee you. Somebody off 1:22:21.080 --> 1:22:23.080 the neighborhood that know your mama, go try to run 1:22:23.160 --> 1:22:25.400 up on the little able to get it. Man. If 1:22:25.439 --> 1:22:28.320 they don't, they gonna beat your ass. They need to 1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:32.160 get back to that. You need to govern our neighborhood, 1:22:32.200 --> 1:22:36.400 control our neighborhood, police our neighborhood, secure our neighborhoods. That's 1:22:36.439 --> 1:22:39.040 the only way it's gonna be safe for us because 1:22:39.040 --> 1:22:41.200 at the end of the day, were the only neighborhood 1:22:41.240 --> 1:22:43.599 that don't do it. The white neighborhoods do it. The Irish, 1:22:43.600 --> 1:22:46.480 the Jewish or whatever, the Arab every all these communities 1:22:46.520 --> 1:22:49.000 do it. You know what I'm saying, And I admire that. 1:22:49.200 --> 1:22:51.040 It's no way that I could ever be a racist 1:22:51.080 --> 1:22:53.680 because I admire the way that people stick together. We 1:22:53.800 --> 1:22:56.599 need that, you feel, I'm saying, we need it for ourselves. 1:22:57.360 --> 1:22:59.760 I could never even think about another culture and how 1:22:59.760 --> 1:23:01.360 they look at us, because they look at us like 1:23:01.680 --> 1:23:04.760 y'all crazy as hell. Y'all don't give a fuck about 1:23:04.800 --> 1:23:06.519 each other. How the fuck we gonna care about y'all? 1:23:07.160 --> 1:23:09.920 It's impossible. We gotta care about each other first. Ain't 1:23:09.920 --> 1:23:11.600 nobody gonna give a fuck about us. We don't care 1:23:11.640 --> 1:23:14.920 about each other, Why should they? I mean, I ain't 1:23:14.920 --> 1:23:16.280 gonna give a fuck about the nigga that don't care 1:23:16.320 --> 1:23:19.440 about itself. Like I said, I know, you can't help everybody. 1:23:19.520 --> 1:23:20.960 So if I'm trying to do this in a nigga 1:23:20.960 --> 1:23:22.679 ain't even trying to help itself and get no money, 1:23:22.680 --> 1:23:24.160 what the fuck I'm gonna still try to give you 1:23:24.160 --> 1:23:27.360 some money for as a as a black man. That's 1:23:27.360 --> 1:23:29.880 how we think. So how the fuck you think somebody 1:23:29.880 --> 1:23:31.639 on the outside, Look at what the fuck I'm helping 1:23:31.680 --> 1:23:33.320 them forward? They ain't doing nothing but killing each other. 1:23:34.479 --> 1:23:37.400 It's the same thing, bro. Universal law is the same 1:23:37.640 --> 1:23:39.479 no matter how you look at it. Bro, we gotta 1:23:39.520 --> 1:23:42.240 think about universal law and principle. That's the only way 1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:44.720 we're gonna get better. Yeah, man, I mean I think 1:23:44.760 --> 1:23:48.200 a lot of people in your position it should preach that. Yeah. 1:23:48.240 --> 1:23:51.000 But I Bro, I just I just grew. Bro. I'm 1:23:51.080 --> 1:23:53.320 just a grown man. I look at life totally different, bro, 1:23:53.400 --> 1:23:56.439 because I got shit that I care. But you got children, Hey, man, 1:23:56.439 --> 1:23:58.040 I feel like once you have kids, man, you take 1:23:58.040 --> 1:24:01.640 that father ship here every series. Bro, I can't I 1:24:01.680 --> 1:24:05.439 can't lose. I can't lose in no way, I can't lose, right, 1:24:05.720 --> 1:24:13.000 you gotta. I'm assuming Conway's on the the pain version 1:24:13.000 --> 1:24:15.679 of the b sad because I know Conway's got that pain, 1:24:16.080 --> 1:24:19.000 you know, that way to be sad. You know, Conway's 1:24:19.080 --> 1:24:21.719 one of one of my favorite rappers in the world. 1:24:21.760 --> 1:24:24.200 And you know Bennie like the Poppet you found, Yeah, 1:24:24.600 --> 1:24:27.679 he's like the Benny's like the pop star Griselda. Benny 1:24:27.800 --> 1:24:30.760 liked the poppy ship. Yeah, Conways like the pain. You 1:24:30.920 --> 1:24:33.840 know what I'm saying. It came perfect, bro, I told 1:24:33.920 --> 1:24:35.680 I told me, I said, no, I need both of 1:24:35.720 --> 1:24:37.439 them on that. The fact you got me on the 1:24:37.479 --> 1:24:40.959 A side, Conway on the B side, shit crazy, nah nah. 1:24:41.160 --> 1:24:43.920 Shout out to both of them, like how in tuned 1:24:43.960 --> 1:24:46.479 have you been with what Griselda is doing with both 1:24:46.520 --> 1:24:48.599 with both of those guys. Always been in tune from 1:24:48.600 --> 1:24:51.719 the beginning. You feel I'm a fan of Bennie Conway gone. Yeah, 1:24:51.880 --> 1:24:56.240 I'm a fan of Griselda period. You know what I'm saying. So, Bennie, 1:24:56.240 --> 1:24:58.120 that's my brother. Me and Bennie been knowing each other 1:24:58.160 --> 1:25:01.040 since twenty fourteen. Don't even know that. I say it 1:25:01.040 --> 1:25:03.000 all the time. People don't even know. Go back and look. 1:25:03.040 --> 1:25:05.840 Me and Bennie got songs from twenty fourteen. I didn't 1:25:05.840 --> 1:25:08.040 been to Buffalo fuck with him in his hood. Yeah, 1:25:08.320 --> 1:25:11.519 I've been all those guys I'm saying. So, Conway always 1:25:11.560 --> 1:25:13.720 been a fan of it, And I'm just telling him me, like, man, 1:25:13.760 --> 1:25:15.960 I gotta do what you feel me Like I'm in 1:25:16.000 --> 1:25:18.559 the traffic when I get in traffic. I'm playing that ship, Bro, 1:25:18.600 --> 1:25:20.800 I'm playing Bennie Shit, I'm playing Conway shit. Like you 1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:23.000 feel what I'm saying. But it was certain times, you know, 1:25:23.120 --> 1:25:25.080 you go through some shiit mentally only hit one song. 1:25:25.280 --> 1:25:30.200 Yeah you feel me like Conway when he when he 1:25:30.600 --> 1:25:34.599 came to God the album my intro fulast song every 1:25:34.680 --> 1:25:37.400 Day a fucking classic. I used to listen to that song, 1:25:37.760 --> 1:25:40.519 the intro. That's the one with Dave's loaf right, no God, 1:25:41.000 --> 1:25:44.240 Oh yeah, Dave's loaf is tracked too. I king h Nigga. 1:25:44.320 --> 1:25:45.600 Used to get in the car and listen to that 1:25:45.760 --> 1:25:48.479 song every day as soon as I got in the car. 1:25:48.520 --> 1:25:51.120 It's a classic album, nigga. I know That's what I'm 1:25:51.160 --> 1:25:53.479 telling you. I listened to that Ship every single day 1:25:53.479 --> 1:25:55.920 when I got in the car. Bro so good. Yeah, 1:25:56.000 --> 1:25:57.360 some of the bars on that album, just some of 1:25:57.400 --> 1:26:01.000 the ship he was saying. Man, shit different. It's Conways 1:26:01.320 --> 1:26:03.519 in my opinion, like when it comes to just like 1:26:03.840 --> 1:26:06.479 lines that you're just like like I just feel it 1:26:06.479 --> 1:26:10.520 in my front na like Tupac had that, Like Conway's 1:26:10.560 --> 1:26:12.679 got that where you're just like fuck like I got 1:26:12.680 --> 1:26:16.719 gumps bumps because I felt you on that shit. No bullshit, Man, 1:26:16.720 --> 1:26:19.280 that nigga different, bro. I love that nigga. He's different 1:26:19.320 --> 1:26:21.120 for real. And I told him, man, I get him 1:26:21.120 --> 1:26:23.240 his flat. I'm gonna get any real niggas flowers I 1:26:23.280 --> 1:26:25.160 got to I thought it was dope. You had both 1:26:25.160 --> 1:26:27.000 of them on it. 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Yeah, I think, I mean, man, obviously, 1:28:01.320 --> 1:28:03.280 one of the craziest things that happen in a long 1:28:03.320 --> 1:28:06.600 time with the rap lyrics. Shit California just passed the 1:28:08.360 --> 1:28:11.080 law that that's great. They can't use it. That's great. Yeah. 1:28:11.479 --> 1:28:14.439 Is that something that like, at this point in time 1:28:14.439 --> 1:28:16.880 in your career, you think about what you say on 1:28:16.960 --> 1:28:20.400 records because it could be misperceived. I don't. I don't 1:28:20.400 --> 1:28:23.439 even think about how people miss misperceived me or miss 1:28:23.880 --> 1:28:25.960 I'm here for what I'm here for. I feel like 1:28:26.040 --> 1:28:28.000 God put me here to do what I'm meant to 1:28:28.040 --> 1:28:30.439 do in life, and I don't think about it. Bro, 1:28:30.479 --> 1:28:32.760 I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna be transparent, I'm gonna 1:28:32.800 --> 1:28:34.840 be myself and at the end of the day, all 1:28:34.840 --> 1:28:37.679 I ever did was try to help people. So it 1:28:37.720 --> 1:28:39.680 is what it is. I don't even think too much 1:28:39.680 --> 1:28:42.240 about it. I promise talk to like thugs character because 1:28:42.240 --> 1:28:44.559 everybody I know just says he's just the greatest guy. 1:28:44.600 --> 1:28:48.479 He's the most generous guy, nigga, the most solid nigga, nigga, 1:28:48.479 --> 1:28:50.040 one of the most solid niggas you're gonna ever meet 1:28:50.080 --> 1:28:53.040 in life. You feel what I'm saying, it's crazy, like 1:28:53.080 --> 1:28:55.599 he just so smart. I heard that nigga, like people 1:28:55.640 --> 1:28:57.559 would think like this is one of the things that 1:28:57.640 --> 1:29:00.400 really stood out to me about the like not fuck. 1:29:00.479 --> 1:29:02.680 The fact that he had genuine nigga, everybody that no 1:29:02.800 --> 1:29:05.280 thug know that everybody that no thug. No, he cared 1:29:05.280 --> 1:29:08.879 about everybody around him. Just how smart he is musically 1:29:08.960 --> 1:29:11.479 and how you try to help that nigga told me said, 1:29:11.960 --> 1:29:16.400 nigga think like, oh what I'm doing this nigga tripping? 1:29:16.400 --> 1:29:18.640 You know, weirdship. But who the fuck gonna be the 1:29:18.760 --> 1:29:22.920 Rick James or this generation? He said that. I said, damn, 1:29:22.960 --> 1:29:26.160 sl that's you, that nigga. You feund I'm saying, like 1:29:27.040 --> 1:29:29.400 being free the Prince, he said, both of them, He said, 1:29:29.400 --> 1:29:32.479 Prince Aninrick James, like, who's there three thousand of this? 1:29:34.120 --> 1:29:37.840 Yet all the bitches A gagster, you feel what I'm saying. 1:29:38.120 --> 1:29:40.680 A nigga that don't. By gagster, what I mean is 1:29:41.160 --> 1:29:43.160 stand on tin and stand on what you believe in 1:29:43.880 --> 1:29:47.760 and power to people around you, and and be one 1:29:47.800 --> 1:29:51.080 hundred percent completely yourself no matter what nobody saying. Ain't 1:29:51.080 --> 1:29:53.280 nobody gonna Ain't nobody gonna ever walk up the thug 1:29:53.360 --> 1:29:55.519 and say I don't like how you did this? A no, 1:29:56.240 --> 1:29:58.360 I mean, when I stand on all ten, you feel 1:29:58.360 --> 1:30:00.639 what I'm saying. So What I mean by that is 1:30:01.000 --> 1:30:03.360 when he said that, bro, it threw me out and 1:30:03.520 --> 1:30:06.720 it gave me a whole another different like outlook on him, Like, no, 1:30:06.920 --> 1:30:09.559 this nigga, He's right, it is a different nigga. He's serious. 1:30:09.560 --> 1:30:12.000 This is the type of nigga that's like gonna change generations. 1:30:12.040 --> 1:30:14.759 You know what I'm saying. Slam just a genuine nigga. 1:30:14.840 --> 1:30:16.920 And at every song I got with him, he told 1:30:16.960 --> 1:30:19.000 me to get on. I promise the song I put 1:30:19.000 --> 1:30:21.799 out on Swervo, the ship we got on the album 1:30:21.960 --> 1:30:25.479 of this ship. I ain't never sent Thug a record ever. 1:30:26.040 --> 1:30:28.960 He always like, huh, jump on this. You can have it. 1:30:29.200 --> 1:30:32.559 He told you can have this ship. It's crazy. Nobody 1:30:32.640 --> 1:30:35.160 never did no ship like that. We had Snapdog on 1:30:35.200 --> 1:30:37.439 the show and he was like, yeah, I've been hanging 1:30:37.439 --> 1:30:38.760 out with Thug the last couple of years and he 1:30:38.840 --> 1:30:41.280 noticed how the glasses all right squint. Yeah. Yeah. No, 1:30:41.400 --> 1:30:42.960 I was with him when he did that. When I 1:30:43.040 --> 1:30:45.519 was he was all together in the studio, he snapped. 1:30:45.760 --> 1:30:50.040 He snapped when he got his ass surgery. The next day, 1:30:50.280 --> 1:30:53.479 Doug was like, Yah, yeah, that's crazy. You feel I'm saying, 1:30:53.560 --> 1:30:55.479 that's so crazy. We was together. I literally we was 1:30:55.520 --> 1:30:58.040 in the studio together. That was around the same time 1:30:58.080 --> 1:31:01.000 we did Brief Slowness on that How crazy he sent 1:31:01.120 --> 1:31:03.639 Snapped to go get his eye surgery because he saw 1:31:03.720 --> 1:31:07.120 him squinting. That's a great nigga, bro, It's not no nigga. 1:31:07.200 --> 1:31:09.639 Nobody's doing that. Who the fuck Finna see you squint 1:31:09.680 --> 1:31:11.800 and say, man, you good? You need Nigga paid for 1:31:11.920 --> 1:31:13.560 his eye surgery. Bro. I swear to god, he was 1:31:13.600 --> 1:31:15.599 in the studio. We was all together. Me and Snap 1:31:15.640 --> 1:31:17.320 did a song that day, and me and Thug did 1:31:17.320 --> 1:31:19.840 a song that day, and the next morning, Snapped when 1:31:19.840 --> 1:31:21.800 he got his eye surgery, Nigga was there and Thug 1:31:21.800 --> 1:31:25.040 covered it. I was there. That shit's so crazy, and 1:31:25.040 --> 1:31:27.280 I'm just like, Yo, that's some high character shit, a 1:31:27.400 --> 1:31:30.000 nigga solid that dude's not signed to him, you know 1:31:30.040 --> 1:31:32.200 what I mean. It's just a right nigga. Huh what 1:31:32.240 --> 1:31:34.000 you need? You good? You feel what I'm saying, Like, 1:31:34.360 --> 1:31:37.760 that's real, bro, that's some real nigga. Bro. You feel me? 1:31:37.800 --> 1:31:39.800 Like even watching the untrapped shit with Baby that she 1:31:39.880 --> 1:31:42.200 ain't no game, bro, that nigga get him whatever he 1:31:42.280 --> 1:31:44.439 gave baby, whatever the fuck he wanted to go rap. 1:31:45.120 --> 1:31:47.120 You feel me the same. That's just being a good 1:31:47.120 --> 1:31:49.640 hearted nigga. You feel I'm saying, if you able to 1:31:49.680 --> 1:31:52.000 do it, it ain't hurting him. You think that shit 1:31:52.040 --> 1:31:54.479 don't hurt thug to go get a nigga this or 1:31:54.880 --> 1:31:56.760 get a nigga some shine. You feel I'm saying that, 1:31:56.880 --> 1:31:59.080 don't you know? And I feel like as a people, 1:31:59.120 --> 1:32:02.040 that's why we're supposed to be even more adamant and 1:32:02.439 --> 1:32:05.559 advocate about making sure that that man and his kids 1:32:05.640 --> 1:32:08.679 is protected by all cults. Whatever it is. You feel, 1:32:08.680 --> 1:32:12.840 I'm saying, he is whatever, while he whatever, whatever happens happens, 1:32:13.600 --> 1:32:16.880 he's making sure he good and straight by any means, 1:32:16.920 --> 1:32:19.840 you feel what I'm saying. And like I talked to 1:32:19.920 --> 1:32:21.960 like Dolly, his sister, and she's like that, yeah, whatever, 1:32:22.040 --> 1:32:23.800 slamy good. You fee what I'm saying. Shit like that. 1:32:23.840 --> 1:32:26.000 But at the end of the day, and I understand 1:32:26.040 --> 1:32:28.760 that they're not gonna let nobody really ind for real, 1:32:28.800 --> 1:32:31.840 you know what I'm saying, because so serious situation. Yeah, 1:32:31.880 --> 1:32:34.080 you just gotta really pray to he overcome that shit 1:32:34.160 --> 1:32:36.880 and just embrace it. Whatever by any means, anything that 1:32:36.920 --> 1:32:40.080 anybody ever called me on behalf of the Gun or 1:32:40.120 --> 1:32:43.120 any nigga fuck with, I promise you I'm hands on 1:32:43.200 --> 1:32:45.920 immediately you could call me in whatever, I'm gonna make 1:32:45.920 --> 1:32:48.160 a way to do it because I understand it, you 1:32:48.160 --> 1:32:50.559 feel what I'm saying. Whatever, any nigga fuck with, whether 1:32:50.600 --> 1:32:54.080 it's somebody this big or this big, I promise if 1:32:54.120 --> 1:32:56.240 it's anything I could do to help, I'm gonna do it. 1:32:57.439 --> 1:33:01.160 You mentioned a little Baby documentary. Would you ever let 1:33:01.200 --> 1:33:05.240 someone kind of tell your story that way? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:33:05.400 --> 1:33:07.680 you don't already already want to do something like that. Well, 1:33:07.720 --> 1:33:09.360 you know what I was thinking was like we think 1:33:09.400 --> 1:33:11.920 of a fifty and like kind of how he's had 1:33:12.000 --> 1:33:15.280 power and he's at BMF and like, I mean, obviously 1:33:15.280 --> 1:33:20.320 Showtime has a shyrack show, But I feel like somebody 1:33:20.920 --> 1:33:23.479 in your position, Dirk's position, somebody like that, should like 1:33:23.560 --> 1:33:26.559 take it upon themselves to do it. They said to 1:33:26.760 --> 1:33:28.920 tell that story by it, because you know what's gonna 1:33:28.960 --> 1:33:31.960 happen is in like five years or ten years when 1:33:31.960 --> 1:33:33.640 they were gonna wake up and on Netflix, there is 1:33:33.640 --> 1:33:35.760 gonna be a fucking show that's based It's gonna be 1:33:35.800 --> 1:33:38.840 like the wire of Chicago, and it's gonna be someone 1:33:38.840 --> 1:33:42.439 else taking advantage are situation. Let nobody take advantage of 1:33:42.479 --> 1:33:45.759 our story. Someone's gonna try to do it, dude, nobody's 1:33:45.800 --> 1:33:47.840 gonna tell our narrative because we already on it. You 1:33:47.840 --> 1:33:49.639 know what I'm saying. It's gonna be too we already 1:33:49.680 --> 1:33:52.400 on it. I think I tell my story for me. 1:33:52.640 --> 1:33:54.800 I don't even mean yours. I just mean like anybody 1:33:54.840 --> 1:33:58.160 the city of Chicago. I'm telling you. That's why unity 1:33:58.240 --> 1:34:00.599 is so important, because at the end of the day, 1:34:00.600 --> 1:34:03.800 you gotta think about it, like I could tell stories 1:34:04.160 --> 1:34:07.519 about Sosa from my own prospective, from my own point 1:34:07.520 --> 1:34:09.800 of view. Dirt could tell stories about me. I could 1:34:09.800 --> 1:34:12.519 tell stories about Dirk, I could tell stories about Polo. 1:34:12.560 --> 1:34:14.040 He could tell stories. You knowe what I'm saying. So 1:34:14.080 --> 1:34:17.080 we got to come together and just build the crib 1:34:17.320 --> 1:34:20.559 that way, Just build the crib together unity. Why would 1:34:20.560 --> 1:34:23.520 we let anybody else or while we do it separately, 1:34:23.760 --> 1:34:25.320 when at the end of the day, this shit could 1:34:25.400 --> 1:34:27.960 at long, this little shit that we just coming together 1:34:28.040 --> 1:34:32.280 for two three months could feed one hundred families. Some 1:34:32.360 --> 1:34:36.320 shit we just putting together and like that together though, Yeah, together, 1:34:36.439 --> 1:34:41.040 that's important. Unity is what I'm preaching. That's the most important. Shit. 1:34:41.320 --> 1:34:43.640 That's that's big from a city that is known to 1:34:43.760 --> 1:34:46.360 not have a lot of that exactly. Yeah, what is 1:34:46.479 --> 1:34:49.160 uh for you? You just spent all those artist shouts 1:34:49.160 --> 1:34:50.920 of Polo G shot out to Dirk. Would you guys 1:34:50.920 --> 1:34:53.160 ever do like a fucking crazy tour? I a would 1:34:53.200 --> 1:34:55.760 love it. We've been all like people already got it 1:34:55.800 --> 1:34:58.200 in their head. I'm sure every last person that I 1:34:58.320 --> 1:35:00.200 named and't thought about it, you feel I'm saying, But 1:35:00.240 --> 1:35:02.640 we just got to put it into perspective. You know 1:35:02.680 --> 1:35:04.720 what I'm saying, ain't no and you know something that 1:35:04.760 --> 1:35:06.800 I learned, Like I was preaching that when I was 1:35:06.840 --> 1:35:08.760 a kid, like in the streets, like ain't no big 1:35:08.800 --> 1:35:11.360 ass a little use. I always remember that ain't no 1:35:11.400 --> 1:35:15.280 big ass or a little use. You gotta remember that 1:35:15.760 --> 1:35:17.960 no big ass or a little use. You feel what 1:35:17.960 --> 1:35:20.559 I'm saying. It's like we all equal, we all. I 1:35:20.600 --> 1:35:23.519 don't look at myself above nobody. You know what I'm saying, 1:35:23.600 --> 1:35:26.479 What dig make me bigger than you? Money don't make 1:35:26.520 --> 1:35:28.280 you bigger than me. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1:35:28.600 --> 1:35:31.559 at the end of the day, we all have things 1:35:31.600 --> 1:35:35.240 that we could learn from you know what I'm saying 1:35:35.439 --> 1:35:37.840 within each other? You feel me? So once you look 1:35:37.840 --> 1:35:39.920 at life like that, no big ass, a little use, 1:35:40.520 --> 1:35:43.240 it'll make you like all I bet we could put 1:35:43.240 --> 1:35:47.240 shit together. Have you uh taken it upon yourself at 1:35:47.280 --> 1:35:48.680 all to be a big homie than any of the 1:35:48.760 --> 1:35:50.840 young artists coming up? And because I mean, I'm sure 1:35:50.880 --> 1:35:52.760 that there's a artist that you've seen making mistakes that 1:35:52.800 --> 1:35:55.800 maybe you've made it in past. Yeah, I don't mind 1:35:55.880 --> 1:35:59.320 like talking about like my mistakes that I made or 1:35:59.560 --> 1:36:02.760 like you know what I'm saying, shit that I've been 1:36:02.800 --> 1:36:05.120 through to I could try to help other artists, you 1:36:05.160 --> 1:36:07.800 know what I'm saying, come from under and I just 1:36:08.080 --> 1:36:10.559 I feel like my my position and this shit is 1:36:10.600 --> 1:36:14.880 really just trying to just light another candle. If I 1:36:14.880 --> 1:36:17.280 could do anything to just make your shit bigger, if 1:36:17.320 --> 1:36:19.519 I could give you a verse, a look or anything 1:36:19.680 --> 1:36:21.960 pop out on the shit you're definitely getting you out. 1:36:22.280 --> 1:36:23.880 I'm gonna do that. You feel I'm saying it don't 1:36:23.880 --> 1:36:26.080 make me no, never, man, I don't give a fuck. 1:36:26.160 --> 1:36:27.760 I don't even gott to know you personally. I could 1:36:27.800 --> 1:36:29.519 just know somebody that manage you. I can know your 1:36:29.560 --> 1:36:32.360 cousin and ah, y'all fuck with you. I see you 1:36:33.280 --> 1:36:35.240 popping up on the albums up like I loved when 1:36:35.240 --> 1:36:37.400 I saw you on Mazzi's album. Like there's certain like shit, 1:36:37.800 --> 1:36:40.040 Ozzi my brother. I'm saying. People don't know that. I'm 1:36:40.040 --> 1:36:42.719 gonna always say. I'm always pre model my help the MASI. 1:36:42.760 --> 1:36:44.960 You fee what I'm saying, free broke, that's my brother. 1:36:45.120 --> 1:36:47.799 I feel. I always hear love from Mazzi since the beginning. 1:36:48.080 --> 1:36:52.040 I spent weeks in Sacramento when niggas just telling me like, yeah, 1:36:52.040 --> 1:36:55.839 this nigga ain't Mazzi. This is like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen. 1:36:55.920 --> 1:36:59.160 You feel me before all of this shit, before I 1:36:59.320 --> 1:37:02.799 was even as b You feel what I'm saying, so honestly, 1:37:02.800 --> 1:37:05.160 that's my brother. I'm always I'm gonna always show a 1:37:05.200 --> 1:37:08.040 little to any nigga that I can, no matter who 1:37:08.080 --> 1:37:12.080 it is. Bro I got tazed with niggas from this city. 1:37:12.200 --> 1:37:14.920 That city is city because I just did solid shit 1:37:15.080 --> 1:37:16.640 you feel I'm saying, and I don't even use it. 1:37:16.680 --> 1:37:18.679 I probably might get to a nigga city don't even 1:37:18.720 --> 1:37:20.599 call and be like, oh, what's up, let's link because 1:37:20.640 --> 1:37:22.639 I'm thinking about so much shit. I got so much 1:37:22.680 --> 1:37:24.880 going on, I don't even get a chance to really 1:37:24.920 --> 1:37:27.360 tap in. But I'm already tapped in because I did 1:37:27.360 --> 1:37:31.479 some solid shit. You feel me? The new album I 1:37:31.520 --> 1:37:35.240 Fish Go run that ship up? Is there? What else 1:37:35.320 --> 1:37:38.520 is on the way for you? More Man, Yes, Survivors 1:37:38.520 --> 1:37:41.080 and more ten to seven Man b side ten ten. 1:37:42.120 --> 1:37:46.320 I'm excited for everything new artists on the way. And 1:37:46.960 --> 1:37:49.080 people don't really know how I said it, Like me 1:37:49.120 --> 1:37:51.559 and Sis have already been working on Big Swerve while 1:37:51.560 --> 1:37:54.800 we're working on Survivors and more so Wow coming. I'm 1:37:54.800 --> 1:37:56.719 in mold, bro. I'm not letting up. I ain't gonna 1:37:56.720 --> 1:37:58.800 lie how I'm feeling right now. I'm not really taking 1:37:58.800 --> 1:38:00.720 the foot off the gas right now. What is your 1:38:00.760 --> 1:38:04.479 like label situation? Are you kind of like I'm still independent? 1:38:04.600 --> 1:38:06.439 I was about to say, you're independent for people staying 1:38:06.560 --> 1:38:10.080 entertainment Republican for people who don't know you're like, you're independent. 1:38:10.200 --> 1:38:12.960 I'm independent, fully, yeah, independent a lot of people. I 1:38:12.960 --> 1:38:15.439 don't think a lot of people realize that because you 1:38:15.479 --> 1:38:18.000 do a lot of shit that you know, people like, yo, 1:38:18.000 --> 1:38:21.080 he's got to be no, I'm independent, man, you know 1:38:21.160 --> 1:38:23.439 Weven built this shit from the ground up, you know, 1:38:23.520 --> 1:38:26.080 and that's the importance of it. I did all the 1:38:26.240 --> 1:38:28.560 hard shit, bro. I ain't taking no shortcuts. Bro, I 1:38:28.560 --> 1:38:30.880 ain't got no big looks. And I need this album 1:38:30.960 --> 1:38:34.280 right now while I'm already big gee Herbo outside. Nigga, 1:38:34.280 --> 1:38:36.280 I've been outside for two years, right. I was on 1:38:36.400 --> 1:38:39.400 side on the phone with Sizzle ever since my little 1:38:39.400 --> 1:38:42.760 brother died. My little brother died January twenty eighth, twenty 1:38:42.920 --> 1:38:46.960 and twenty one, right right, Greg did in twenty one 1:38:47.479 --> 1:38:51.000 January twenty eight. So from there until now, I've been 1:38:51.040 --> 1:38:53.920 outside thugging. I've just been outside just doing me and 1:38:53.960 --> 1:38:56.280 I feel like that's what's building that. But guess what, 1:38:56.680 --> 1:38:59.639 that's trauma that I've been dealing with. I ain't go outside, 1:38:59.800 --> 1:39:02.160 but come, I need to turn my shit up, Nigga. 1:39:02.200 --> 1:39:04.719 I was outside of just just to try to feel 1:39:05.760 --> 1:39:08.040 and just try to get over the ship, get over 1:39:08.080 --> 1:39:11.240 the grief I lost. My little brother. Nigga was everything 1:39:11.280 --> 1:39:13.640 to me, you feel what I'm saying. So to be 1:39:13.800 --> 1:39:16.800 able to like be why I am now and be 1:39:16.960 --> 1:39:19.240 independent and everything just makes sense with me because I 1:39:19.360 --> 1:39:22.120 bet on myself no matter what I'm going through the hardest, 1:39:22.160 --> 1:39:23.920 toughest shit. What I'm trying to say is, I ain't 1:39:23.960 --> 1:39:27.080 take no shortcuts, I ain't take no easy roles or 1:39:27.080 --> 1:39:29.040 none of this shit. Nigga, I built this ship from 1:39:29.080 --> 1:39:32.040 the ground up. Fan by fan, fan by fan. Nigga, 1:39:32.160 --> 1:39:35.040 I built this shit from the ground up, and I 1:39:35.040 --> 1:39:37.200 don't even pop it like that. I don't even pop 1:39:37.240 --> 1:39:38.519 my ship. But at the end of the day, it 1:39:38.600 --> 1:39:40.800 is what it is. Niggas ain't done what I done. 1:39:40.840 --> 1:39:42.599 I ain't had no big looks, I ain't had no 1:39:42.680 --> 1:39:46.240 major label push, I ain't had nothing. Every partnership I built, 1:39:46.479 --> 1:39:49.759 every relationship, I built every feature I got, every song, 1:39:49.840 --> 1:39:52.400 I did, every two idea. Nigga, I did the roughest, 1:39:52.479 --> 1:39:55.120 toughest Nigga. I built this ship from the ground up, 1:39:55.160 --> 1:39:57.559 and can't nobody take that from me. So I deserve 1:39:57.720 --> 1:40:00.160 everything that I'm coming that's coming to me. Do you 1:40:00.160 --> 1:40:03.680 feel like somebody who's taking that path that is extremely 1:40:03.720 --> 1:40:07.040 the hard path, the long way right? Do you feel 1:40:07.040 --> 1:40:09.880 like when you see like artists talking about they're black ball, 1:40:10.000 --> 1:40:14.160 do you feel like that's a real thing. I feel 1:40:14.200 --> 1:40:18.000 like it is a real thing, but it's not you 1:40:18.040 --> 1:40:20.920 feel me. I feel like when artists say they blackball, 1:40:21.080 --> 1:40:24.479 it's about accountability, nigga, you blackball yourself at the end 1:40:24.520 --> 1:40:26.120 of the day, you feel what I'm saying, it's about 1:40:26.479 --> 1:40:29.519 certain things you've done, or certain things you may have said, 1:40:29.640 --> 1:40:31.320 or ways you may have done it. But at the 1:40:31.400 --> 1:40:33.360 end of the day, you're not wrong for that. You're 1:40:33.439 --> 1:40:36.280 not wrong for being yourself. This is an industry full 1:40:36.320 --> 1:40:39.840 of reasons why niggas can't be theirself. It's a fake 1:40:39.880 --> 1:40:43.240 ass industry. It's a bullshit industry. It's an industry full 1:40:43.240 --> 1:40:45.960 of niggas that's afraid to be theyself. So at the 1:40:46.040 --> 1:40:47.840 end of the day, when you feel like you blackball, 1:40:48.200 --> 1:40:50.120 you may be. But at the end of the day, nigga, 1:40:50.160 --> 1:40:52.519 even if you are, I'll promise you it's always right 1:40:52.600 --> 1:40:54.920 at the end of the tunnel, real nigga's gonna always win. 1:40:55.200 --> 1:40:57.559 So if you're a real nigga, just be yourself and 1:40:57.640 --> 1:40:59.519 do the next best thing. You feel what I'm saying, 1:40:59.520 --> 1:41:02.040 like black all, it is real, It's true. But at 1:41:02.080 --> 1:41:04.599 the end of the day, but they can only so much, 1:41:04.760 --> 1:41:07.559 so much because the Internet is the Yeah, the Internet 1:41:07.600 --> 1:41:10.400 is just so when you try to build and bet 1:41:10.439 --> 1:41:12.599 on yourself, and do the next best thing. You feel 1:41:12.600 --> 1:41:14.960 what I'm saying, that's the that's the thing. That's why 1:41:14.960 --> 1:41:17.400 I don't believe in the black ball because the Internet 1:41:17.560 --> 1:41:20.439 is so powerful. It's so powerful and if the Internet 1:41:20.479 --> 1:41:22.439 came black ball you, if they fuck with you, if 1:41:22.479 --> 1:41:24.840 the industry black ballue in the Internet fuck with you, 1:41:24.840 --> 1:41:27.800 You're gonna still win. That's why young Boy still win 1:41:27.880 --> 1:41:32.000 it period. You feel me, people gotta fuck with you, 1:41:32.120 --> 1:41:34.280 and being young boy is the most anti industry, the 1:41:34.320 --> 1:41:36.479 most anti industry nigga ever you feel, I'm saying, you 1:41:36.520 --> 1:41:39.200 gotta give a nigga they credit. You know what I'm saying. 1:41:39.280 --> 1:41:41.160 I saw, Yeah, I saw. That's what I mean. Did 1:41:41.160 --> 1:41:44.920 you see what Russ just said. Russ pretty much was like, 1:41:45.400 --> 1:41:48.120 you know, it's not as long as the Internet is 1:41:48.160 --> 1:41:51.320 alive and you have fans, you have fans, you can't 1:41:51.439 --> 1:41:54.240 you can't be black ball. It's impossible, bro, you feel 1:41:54.240 --> 1:41:56.639 I'm saying, So people have to, like you said, people 1:41:56.760 --> 1:41:59.400 to take accountability, to take accountability and just say all right, 1:41:59.400 --> 1:42:02.120 bet I fuck in the mirror, the mirror and say 1:42:02.160 --> 1:42:04.040 all right, bet let me build even if you don't 1:42:04.040 --> 1:42:07.919 apologize on the internet, let me just think about myself 1:42:08.000 --> 1:42:11.880 right now, build this ship back up organically front of mud, 1:42:11.960 --> 1:42:13.880 because if you're a hustler or a street nigga, you 1:42:13.960 --> 1:42:16.559 know you're gonna go down to zero. Get yourself back up. 1:42:16.800 --> 1:42:19.040 You gotta understand that's the name of the game. Don't 1:42:19.080 --> 1:42:20.960 take this ship personal, nigga. When you take a loss, 1:42:21.000 --> 1:42:26.280 don't blame the labels, don't blame nobody, mirror I fucked up. 1:42:26.840 --> 1:42:29.640 Let me get this ship right, point blank, period. That's 1:42:29.680 --> 1:42:32.000 just what it is. That humility is missing, man. This 1:42:32.240 --> 1:42:35.719 is what it is. Accountability and humility, two trades every 1:42:35.720 --> 1:42:37.360 grown man should have. And I know that, and I 1:42:37.479 --> 1:42:40.120 understand that because I built this ship from the ground 1:42:40.479 --> 1:42:42.880 and niggas when niggas was over here betting on that, 1:42:43.000 --> 1:42:45.160 they like, I'm betting on this and then when that 1:42:45.160 --> 1:42:47.000 sh it ain't work, now nigga back betting on me. 1:42:47.360 --> 1:42:49.200 But you wasn't betting on me. Then I always betting 1:42:49.240 --> 1:42:51.519 on myself, so you could never blackball me. I could 1:42:51.560 --> 1:42:53.400 never take it personal. I'm not gonna look at you like, 1:42:53.600 --> 1:42:55.400 oh you a fuck nigga. You was fucking him two 1:42:55.479 --> 1:42:57.320 years ago. Now you fuck with me, all right, bet 1:42:57.760 --> 1:43:00.280 appreciate you for fuck with me, fuck with you too. Yep, 1:43:00.439 --> 1:43:02.479 That's where I'm at. I don't cap out none of 1:43:02.520 --> 1:43:05.120 this ship, bro. Take that ship personal. Bro. Well, listen, 1:43:05.320 --> 1:43:07.960 the album is out. By the time this drops, the 1:43:08.000 --> 1:43:09.400 album will be out, or it'll be coming out the 1:43:09.439 --> 1:43:12.880 next day. Man, be sad. Listen, man, I'm super proud 1:43:12.880 --> 1:43:15.479 of you. You're killing it. Appreciate it. I cannot wait 1:43:15.520 --> 1:43:17.320 to hear this album. Yeah, and I ain't gonna lie 1:43:17.439 --> 1:43:20.200 like the urs, just like how I'm feeling right now. 1:43:20.240 --> 1:43:22.760 It just make me like it make me think about 1:43:22.800 --> 1:43:24.760 shit different. I'm a pop it different. I'm gonna be 1:43:24.840 --> 1:43:28.200 humble different, I'm gonna be cocky different, like everything is. 1:43:28.320 --> 1:43:30.400 I feel like it's just the next level for me 1:43:30.479 --> 1:43:32.160 in life. You know what I'm saying. I'm just grateful 1:43:32.160 --> 1:43:34.240 to be leveling up on all levels. I'm just grateful 1:43:34.320 --> 1:43:37.320 career wise, mentality wise. Now we just gotta get you 1:43:37.360 --> 1:43:39.760 some mushrooms. Nah, for sure, I'm gonna fuck with it, 1:43:39.800 --> 1:43:42.160 but I don't fuck with it. Yeah, there it is, man. 1:43:42.439 --> 1:43:44.679 G Herbo Fire