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Speaker 1: First of all, once they announced that Seattle was missing

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Speaker 1: all four of its top defensive Lineman game was over,

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Speaker 1: you knew that Jared Goff was going to have time

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Speaker 1: to throw. Golf. With time to throw is a much

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Speaker 1: better version to me of Matt Ryan, and he goes

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Speaker 1: eighteen for eighteen on the night. So I thought, really, Seattle,

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Speaker 1: the fact that they almost, you know, forty two to

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Speaker 1: great whistle tonight. I'm not somebody that spends a lot

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Speaker 1: of time worrying about officiating. I think it goes both ways.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a couple of things on that

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Speaker 1: two point conversion. I thought Seattle got kind of a

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Speaker 1: less than average whistle tonight. They wouldn't have won the

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Speaker 1: game anyway, because they couldn't make any stops. And you

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Speaker 1: could tell very early in the game. Is that you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Seattle's got a really good defensive coach, Whetherspoon

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Speaker 1: in the backfield. They have linebackers that moved pretty well,

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Speaker 1: but one of their linebackers got banged up. They just

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Speaker 1: didn't have the personnel against the team with a really,

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Speaker 1: really good offensive line, and so the game I didn't

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Speaker 1: feel like, even when Seattle was threatening in the second half,

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Speaker 1: you just knew that Detroit could pick up first downs

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Speaker 1: if they had to, and they did. But I got

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Speaker 1: to tell you something about Seattle. Five hundred and sixteen yards.

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Speaker 1: If I'm Detroit coming out of that game, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you'd have taken out the four best offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: for the Lions and they hung and still went and

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Speaker 1: made it a competitive game in Seattle, you'd feel pretty

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Speaker 1: good about it. I mean, I'm Seattle. I'm coming out

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Speaker 1: Detroit's got some defensive issues. They haven't been good in

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Speaker 1: the back end forever, Carlton Davis. They've made acquisitions through

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Speaker 1: the years, they've drafted it. They're just not very good

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Speaker 1: on the back end. And Gino Smith was under duress.

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Speaker 1: But I mean DK Metcalf and their backs. I got

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Speaker 1: to be Jackson Smith in JIGBA. I mean, they got

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Speaker 1: guys got free against that secondary. And Gino Smith he

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Speaker 1: was firing tonight. I Mean we all kind of see

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Speaker 1: him as a B quarterback, but even rushed and flushed

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Speaker 1: wouldn't feel great about it. If I'm Detroit, I'm at home.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday night, you know those home standalone games, the

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Speaker 1: crowd is lubricated, ready to go. It feels like that's

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Speaker 1: a two or three point swing. Seattle's missing their best

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Speaker 1: kind of blown away by Seattle's effort. I think Detroit

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Speaker 1: and Seattle all even is a go either way football game,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think it should be. I think Mike

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Speaker 1: McDonald's an excellent coach for the Seahawks. They won't be

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Speaker 1: the season. And I thought it was a very, very

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Speaker 1: spirited effort. And I've said this before about Jared Goff.

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Speaker 1: When you give Jared Goff, there's qualifiers with Jared Goff.

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Speaker 1: If you give him time to throw, like tonight, and

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Speaker 1: you give him a reasonable running game, he can spin it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he throws a beautiful football. He's accurate, smart

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Speaker 1: and Miami really a bad product tonight. As you're dealing

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Speaker 1: judgment was impaired in the SEC and he makes really

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Speaker 1: their quarterbacks, that game is a great example of it.

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Speaker 1: It was a win for Tua. And you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: I've said it. I can like Dak not love him.

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Speaker 1: I can like Geno Smith not love him. I can

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Speaker 1: like Tua not love him. Look at Miami's offense with

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Speaker 1: throw a terribly forceful deep ball. You worry about him

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Speaker 1: he's a left handed Drew Brees. He's accurate, he gets

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins in the last three years are one

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Speaker 1: and that's with those receivers in that coach, So they

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Speaker 1: lose by eleven points without Tua. So you don't have

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Speaker 1: to be Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: If you're an accurate distributor of the football and you

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Speaker 1: a better price on Tua? Do I need to support him?

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Speaker 1: And he's done it, by the way, without great offensive

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Speaker 1: Pete Rose passed away the hit king. You can't talk

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Speaker 1: hall of fame, yeay or nay. Pete wasn't an honest man.

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Speaker 1: He was also a fairly complicated guy. You know. I

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Speaker 1: with Pete Rose and Ken Grissy Griffy batted second and

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Speaker 1: the backup catcher, Bill Plummer, Saesar Geronimo, Dave Concepsio. National

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Speaker 1: League pitchers hit Jack Billings, Fred Norman couldn't hit. Jack

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Speaker 1: Rose was the engineer of all of it. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: But you know, in terms of pete and gambling, I

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Speaker 1: Pete was. He was intense. He wasn't always up front

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Speaker 1: Everything about Pete was intensity, and I appreciated it as

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