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Speaker 1: Welcome on in. We're here off the Edge with me

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Speaker 1: your host Cam Jordan h.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited because anytime I get to bring bring on

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Speaker 3: a col grad, I get excited. It's always Go Bears.

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Speaker 3: But recording from the NFL Media Studio in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: When I think about, you know, justin Richmond again Go Bears,

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Speaker 3: where he got his bachelor's and graduate degree from. UH

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Speaker 3: A self proclaimed music nerd, but more importantly, you know

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Speaker 3: on the iHeart podcast he's got a broken record, a

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Speaker 3: music podcast he started with the best selling author Malcolm Gladwell.

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Speaker 1: And music legend. Hey, you know, I appreciate you coming in.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here. Man.

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Speaker 3: Nice and nice to have a podcaster to a pseudo podcaster.

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Speaker 3: I'm the pseudo by the way, you're the pseudo. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm suit You're a Saint, so yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: Come look, I heard you're a Detroit Lions fan as

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Speaker 3: well as UH, you know, a Saints fan, because you've

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Speaker 3: got connections of both.

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Speaker 2: Connection I'm I mean, I you know, when I was,

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Speaker 2: when I was young, young, we still had the Raiders

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Speaker 2: here in La so I was I was a Raider fan.

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Speaker 2: Raiders left I felt I was in a wilderness, man,

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Speaker 2: So you know, I kind of looked toward you know,

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Speaker 2: we would call back home to family at family Louisiana,

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Speaker 2: family in Michigan, in Detroit, so we called back home

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Speaker 2: on holidays, and everyone be rootingone' was watching football. Everyone's

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Speaker 2: rooting for the Saints the Lions. I don't got no one,

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Speaker 2: So that sort of going with Saints Lions too. And

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Speaker 2: so that's kind of, you know, while we were in

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Speaker 2: the NFL wilderness here for the last however long twenty

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Speaker 2: five years. Yeah, I became a Saints and Alliance fans fan.

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Speaker 2: And you know, now don't even got it in me

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Speaker 2: to root for the Ram or the Charge, you know,

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Speaker 2: I just I just, you know.

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Speaker 1: Sort of just fell out the love.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so still still a Saints Lions fan. Still still

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I called Detroit the Saints North. Do

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Speaker 3: you Dan Campbell up there? They had Chauncey Gardner, Johnson,

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Speaker 3: alexands Alone, my guy a g until Aaron Glynn until

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Speaker 3: he went over to the Jets. You know, they had

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Speaker 3: like four of our coaches, four of our different like

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Speaker 3: four players. I'm just like, oh, you know, Marcus Davenport

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Speaker 3: up there, and I'm just like, come on, man. I

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Speaker 3: was like, I was like, all right, Saint North.

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Speaker 2: Think about that. That is Saint North. That's beautiful. There

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Speaker 2: is a connect there's and there's just like those two

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Speaker 2: towns man that the cities themselves too. They just feel

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Speaker 2: very i mean connected.

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean Detroit fifteen years ago was scary,

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Speaker 3: and now Detroit it's nice.

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Speaker 1: Like people are actually moving to Detroit.

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Speaker 2: People going to the city, back to the city. Everyone's

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Speaker 2: trying to get back to the city.

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Speaker 3: There's a time where they were trying to give away

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Speaker 3: houses for like five thousand.

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Speaker 1: I was like, dang, I should have bought me when

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Speaker 2: To give a houses cheaper than that.

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Speaker 1: Man, Just you know, it is. It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: But you know, brother, like you your height. You know

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Speaker 3: you talked about football. We know you're a basketball guy.

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Speaker 3: Athletic background. Yeah, well yeah, when you're this tall, we're

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Speaker 3: in a six fours to sixty six range. Everybody was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: you play basketball, right, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean like I do.

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Speaker 1: But like, see, the.

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Speaker 2: Problem was, you know, when you've grown up, like in

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Speaker 2: like that was it. Like so but I was always

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Speaker 2: like it was like the centers and this wasn't like

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Speaker 2: when the centers could have fun like Mike and Drill

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Speaker 2: like hour after and you're like, I think I'm good.

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Speaker 1: You didn't want to be Rashid Wallace, you know, like

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Speaker 2: I would have. But then you know, like you know,

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Speaker 2: if like if I'd had that as a model, I

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Speaker 2: so that's the extent of athletic background. I didn't take

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Speaker 2: it too far. Yeah. My dad played got drafted to

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Speaker 2: the NFL. My brother he played overseas Europe, and also

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Speaker 3: I mean, uh, there's somebody told me there was a

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Speaker 3: rumor about you, like you didn't get your your you

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Speaker 3: didn't get a high school diploma, but you got a master's.

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Speaker 2: Nah, I ain't no high school.

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Speaker 1: How does that happen?

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Speaker 3: Don't you have to have a ged to send it

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Speaker 2: No, I don't have a g D. I don't have anything.

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Speaker 2: I got like an eighth grade diploma and then you

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Speaker 2: know whatever, like I got went to I need going

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Speaker 2: to community college, got an AA and then just transferred

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Speaker 2: to got my bachelor's and didn't know couldn't get a job,

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Speaker 2: so I on't got a master's so I could finally

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Speaker 2: get a job. So that was that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Man, just my whole, like the whole childhood just seems

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Speaker 3: like a lie. Like you told me I technically didn't

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Speaker 1: I'll say I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: When I left high school, I wasn't like it wasn't

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Speaker 2: some master playing but I left spent like a year

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Speaker 2: I gotta figure something now, like I gotta, I gotta,

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Speaker 2: I gotta get my life together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then then Jukoke was calling your name. Juko was yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was calling. And so I was said, let me go,

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Speaker 2: let me just go pop in and do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you only had to be you either had to have

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Speaker 2: like two years of high school under year belt getting

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Speaker 2: I think I just fudged in paper. I was fifteen

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Speaker 1: So I just I got two years. I was like,

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Speaker 2: And now yeah, exactly right. So I just said, was

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Speaker 1: In, born in eighty eight and you're eighty nine guy.

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Speaker 2: I'm an eighty nine guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you are, ay right.

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Speaker 3: You know that's that's me right there, hats me, all

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Speaker 3: of it, all about, all about all over in the

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Speaker 3: all the nineties kids like to like pull us into

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Speaker 3: their bracket. They're like, no, you're really ninety kid, don't

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Speaker 3: do that, you you weirdo. Stay right there in the nineties.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's right, man. Yeah, I'm like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm my eighties baby, and I'm gonna hold on my

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Speaker 3: millennial gen y whatever.

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Speaker 2: We are, you know, a great generation, man, boom great.

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Speaker 1: I hold it down.

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Speaker 2: Every time I start to feel old too, I just

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Speaker 2: feel bad. But don't you know, like Taylor Swift nineteen eighty,

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Speaker 2: I'm born the same years Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 1: I can't be old and then switch up on you.

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Speaker 2: Oh really? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm never gonna use her as my reference point, but

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Speaker 2: Look, I'll say that's the that's that's the only time

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Speaker 3: Three Girls of the because I know the moment I

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Speaker 2: I tried, I really tried to indoctrinate them, be more Beyonce.

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Speaker 1: There's a second.

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Speaker 2: I was want to even turn them onto Rihanna, and

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Speaker 2: my wife put an end of that. She was like, no,

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Speaker 2: everybody work much too soon.

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Speaker 1: Who's your all time NFL NFL or favorite NFL player? Yeah? Man, okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: Uh you know, like coming up, I would say, like

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Speaker 2: got to I got to hang with Jim Brown him

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Speaker 1: So you're a running back guy. That's that's what I'm

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Speaker 2: I would have loved to have been a running back. Man.

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Speaker 3: They'd have Brandon Jacobs back then, like six six' five out,

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Speaker 2: No. Man but that's What i'm. SAYING i was born

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Speaker 2: MAN i didn't have the vision to figure out WHAT

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Speaker 1: Did you play did you play?

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Speaker 3: YEAH i, mean you, know junior high point guard five,

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Speaker 3: towards a six three, by sophomore so. Post PLAYER and i,

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Speaker 3: You know i'm blaming. On politics That's why i'm not.

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Speaker 3: Starting WHATEVER so I just i switched. Up there, but,

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Speaker 3: uh yeah you talk about, you know just You Said,

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Speaker 3: Marcus Allen, jim brown You Met.

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Speaker 1: Jim brown how does that? Even Happen? Jim Brown Legendary jim, brown.

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Speaker 2: Know? What nah you know what HAPPENED was, i, STARTED

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00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,000
Speaker 2: well i started listening to podcasts, in, college man but just.

432
00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,720
Speaker 2: COMEDY ones i just thought they. WERE funny i was

433
00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,040
Speaker 2: like this is this, is interesting but not thinking anything,

434
00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,800
Speaker 2: of it. You know and THEN when i went to, grad,

435
00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,280
Speaker 2: school WELL when, I started i couldn't AGAIN when i

436
00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,120
Speaker 2: couldn't get, a JOB but i started getting, THOSE checks

437
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,199
Speaker 2: i started writing a. LITTLE bit i was, just, like

438
00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,040
Speaker 2: well let me figure out how to get into. This

439
00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,399
Speaker 2: INDUSTRY so i just cold emailed like a bunch of

440
00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,920
Speaker 2: people sort of looked AT like tv shows and RADIO shows.

441
00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,720
Speaker 2: I liked i just cold emailed a bunch. Of people

442
00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,399
Speaker 2: the only the ONLY person i heard back From Was

443
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,520
Speaker 2: tavis smiley's Producer Who tavis smiley used to HAVE showing

444
00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,560
Speaker 2: pbs AND pr i on, the radio and he just

445
00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,879
Speaker 2: like was like owned all this stuff and would licensed

446
00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,359
Speaker 2: it out to the different places and had a studio

447
00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,880
Speaker 2: Here In. La MERT so i heard back. From them

448
00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,399
Speaker 2: so they they they brought me on and showed me,

449
00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,959
Speaker 2: the ropes, taught me started teaching. Me stuff and SO

450
00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,480
Speaker 2: when i went to, GRAD school i, was like, you

451
00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,080
Speaker 2: know radio thing is kind, of COOL like i actually

452
00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,040
Speaker 2: kind of, liked that and so and the and. The

453
00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,960
Speaker 2: radio uh the radio advisor at my grad school he.

454
00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,800
Speaker 2: Was cool he had a he did a show With,

455
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,600
Speaker 2: dan AYKROYD and i, was like that's kind, of cool

456
00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,800
Speaker 2: like like, You KNOW so i just started learning. From

457
00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,760
Speaker 2: him and THEN when i graduated and got a job

458
00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,240
Speaker 2: through HIM with mpr down Here In. Culver CITY so

459
00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,560
Speaker 2: i started doing THAT and i was doing that for a,

460
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,760
Speaker 2: few years AND then i got hit up by someone

461
00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,520
Speaker 2: a friend who, Was, Like Hey malcolm gladwell starting this

462
00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,560
Speaker 2: music Show With. RICK rubin i know you're a, music guy,

463
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 2: you know and you know how you know the, audio

464
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,720
Speaker 2: world like you want to be interested in and working.

465
00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,639
Speaker 2: ON it i, was, like, yeah absolutely you KNOW what.

466
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,560
Speaker 2: I mean so that, was. It man, YOU know I

467
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,040
Speaker 2: met Malcolm met rick and uh the.

468
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,239
Speaker 3: Same time he guys went to dinner, YOU know la

469
00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,440
Speaker 3: is a very like meet you at lunch type of business.

470
00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,679
Speaker 2: Meeting place NO man. I MET so I met Malcolm

471
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,520
Speaker 2: In santa monica, And uh i'll. Never forget Don't think

472
00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,359
Speaker 2: i'm My share i'll never forgets my first Time. Meeting

473
00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,159
Speaker 2: malcolm and, YOU know i, GOT like I. LOVE malcolm

474
00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,000
Speaker 2: i read all the books. All that i'm sitting, there,

475
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 2: like wow. That's cool it Is malcol and then some

476
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,080
Speaker 2: guy rides by on. A bike, it's, Like, yo Malcolm but,

477
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 2: MALCOLM goes i don't really know who it is, and,

478
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,480
Speaker 2: goes oh That's That's, brian grazier who, was like, you

479
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,320
Speaker 2: know Big time hollywood producer Man Like brian grazer just.

480
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,119
Speaker 2: Touched Everything so i'm, Sitting there, i'm like it was

481
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 2: THE most, la moment like A true, la Moment, LIKE

482
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,440
Speaker 2: la i never really had a lunch like that was

483
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 2: Kicking It. Mountain gladwell and then Oh There's brian grazer

484
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,399
Speaker 2: using about to, say hi and you KNOW what. I

485
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,919
Speaker 2: mean it was. Wild man and then ANOTHER time i,

486
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 2: met HIM actually i met him at a. Coffee shop

487
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,919
Speaker 2: we're supposed to meet at a certain time and he

488
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 2: was wrapping up a meeting with With. MAV carter i

489
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,679
Speaker 2: was like what what like this is Right when lebrony

490
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 2: what is? My world? The world what is? You know

491
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 2: so that was that was kind. Of wild, but yeah

492
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 2: and then but at, that time there was that had

493
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 2: been those Fires in malibu in twenty twenty, twenty eighteen

494
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 2: like fall, twenty Eighteen So rick rubin's house had, burned

495
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 2: down so he was Out. In hawaii AND then i

496
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 2: just flew up kind of, FLIGHT out i DON'T matter

497
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 2: whi kind of flight Out. To hawaii we rolled around

498
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 2: and to pick up a couple of days talking, about

499
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 2: music talking, about podcasts and talking. About life, and yeah

500
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 2: that was that. Was it we were off the races.

501
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: And like, all right it's all. Us three. We're right.

502
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 2: That's it that's. It man so.

503
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 1: What's uh So The Broken, broken records what's podcast? Focusing?

504
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 2: On, uh yeah we do long form conversations with with

505
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 2: musicians and people related. To music so like even like,

506
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 2: you know we've had like executives, on before but, like

507
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 2: basically if you if you touch music and you're part,

508
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 2: of music like, you know we were a space to

509
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 2: have like, long form passionate conversations about, music, yeah yeah

510
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 2: we're so.

511
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 1: Music's inter twined.

512
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 3: WITH life, i mean if you if you eat, good

513
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 3: food you're probably gonna, be, like dang this place got

514
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 3: some fire music or judge a placed bias ambience to be, like,

515
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 3: hey man like food, was good but like the music.

516
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 2: Was terrible think about that like, that really like people,

517
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 2: like restaurants like really top tier restaurants where the, food's

518
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: hidden like they pay to make sure that they got

519
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 2: right like, right people the right people to to curate

520
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 2: the music even, they know like, you know it's like

521
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 2: that's all a. Sensory. Thing man so food and music

522
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 2: really do. Go together and like even, for me like

523
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 2: my wife will know LIKE if I if, I'M cooking

524
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 2: i don't have music, on show just turn it on

525
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 2: because You know i'll mess the food Up if, i'm

526
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 2: NOT like i have to have music On when, I'm

527
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: cooking LIKE if, i don't like you can't get in,

528
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 2: a rhythm you KNOW what, I mean like like cooking

529
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: is a, rhythm thing, like right, like right you got

530
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 2: to like you could sit there and follow a recipe like,

531
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 2: chop this do this five minutes this time? Is that?

532
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 2: But now but really you know you cooking when you're

533
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 2: just in a rhythm like you can and you can

534
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 2: just it's like it's a, flow state like so you,

535
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: just know like, all right do do, this now, you

536
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 2: know bring That in, onion's done go the throw the,

537
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 2: pork on, you know, you know like so especially and

538
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 2: you know if you don't, do especially, you know like

539
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: the last Two years i've done like the entire our

540
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: entire things giving, plus plus like the entire traditional plus

541
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 2: the LAST year i made, Gumbo too so YOU grew

542
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: i really had to be.

543
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 1: Like chicken sausage we're talking about.

544
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: Like Seafood, UH no i didn't do seafood just because,

545
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: you know we had some amateurs, at that you KNOW what,

546
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: I MEAN so. I couldn't i could like like, you

547
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 2: know friendly, for everybody. For everyone but, so yes we

548
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 2: just did like some man dewey sauce and. All, that

549
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: yeah it Was good Man in Turkey in turkey instead. Of.

550
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 3: Chicken right, and meanwhile you just got like, you Know

551
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 3: The isley brothers play in, the background.

552
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: Gotta you, got it you got it because if you

553
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: can just throw ON like i have a playlist especially For,

554
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 2: Cooking thanksgiving so you know that who knows that. COULD

555
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 2: take i might start the, day BEFORE so. I don't

556
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: i don't want to hear the same, song twice so it's, it's.

557
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 2: Long MAN so i just throw some Mom and I'm just, i'm,

558
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: off man. THAT'S it i. LOVE cooking i. Love food it's.

559
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 2: Definitely intertwined.

560
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: Definitely intertwined so Are you Are you Malcolm and rick

561
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: like on the same mindset of of what good music

562
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: is or do you guys have different Views.

563
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: On everyone's got, different taste, you know like everyone in

564
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: the world has. Different tastes like, for, me man, YOU

565
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 2: know I love, I love I love R, and b yeah.

566
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 2: And always BUT like i grew up in a house

567
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: that really appreciated, like singers you KNOW what, i mean

568
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: vocals was that? Vocalist, Vocalist YEAH and i don't KNOW

569
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: if i had an appreciation with THAT when i.

570
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 1: WAS young.

571
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: I don't, I mean I think i. Liked it they

572
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 2: didn't think much bout but, you know like, you know with,

573
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: you know, you know we had, hip, hop LIKE so

574
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 2: i WAS like i was checking for rappers for that kind.

575
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: Of thing But as i've, gotten, older, man, like yeah

576
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: like we Just Had smoking robinson on the podcast and

577
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: it was like you're. Sitting there, you're like you're, Sitting

578
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: there you're Looking At. Smoking robinson, you're like that's, a vocalist,

579
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: you know like that's.

580
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: A singer he can steal crow to this day to.

581
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: This day like got an.

582
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: Amazing voice, you know he's eighty he's, eighty five, eighty six,

583
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: you know and he can. Still see he's still out

584
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: on tour.

585
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 3: Killing it should be shaking. KILLING it I think I

586
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: said i was that like two or three. Years ago

587
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: we was out there trying. To, DANCE yeah, i said look.

588
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 3: At it come, on man come, On, man okay is?

589
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 2: That?

590
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 3: Smoky yeah is there any anybody you've ever been? Starstruck

591
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 3: by while, mid interview.

592
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: You know we Just Had will smith on AND that

593
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: i was definitely star struct all your, fresh prints definitely.

594
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: Starstruck man that was like he like he really has movie,

595
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: star energy you Know what. I'm, saying, So like i've

596
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: met famous people and, that's cool don't really trip. Off

597
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: that but when you get around someone who's movie, star

598
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: energy you feel that you just kind of. Like aura it's,

599
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 2: like oh like it's just it's not like you're, Just,

600
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: like okay this is a different kind, of person you

601
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 2: KNOW what, I mean like they operated at another level

602
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: and you JUST very i was just. FOR me i

603
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: was just very conscious, that okay LIKE like i have

604
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: an aura of. A kind but, you know you get

605
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: Around will, you're, like okay that's peak.

606
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: Into, THIS okay i see what he brings. The, table, okay.

607
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah you, Sitting there you're just, like wow you KNOW what,

608
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: I mean like this is THIS is i don't, even know,

609
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: it's crazy. You know so that was that Was pretty

610
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 2: that was pretty wild, to experience, you know but that

611
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: that'd be like one of the ONLY times i was really,

612
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: like starstruck star struck. Like that but, but, yeah man

613
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: been fortunate to meet a lot of people and they,

614
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: always say don't meet, your heroes But Everyone i've i've

615
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: come across is always like, like. Cool, Amazing yeah like,

616
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: you know the OTHER person i met one time that had,

617
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 2: that similar same Aura Was. Prince man, same thing like,

618
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: same thing like you just, like yo like you KNOW what.

619
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: I mean he, was, short right, You KNOW i'm i.

620
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,719
Speaker 2: Was towering he had heels. ON it i was like towering.

621
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 2: Over him but you just like you just like it, didn't,

622
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: Matter bro like none of, the nothing none of the

623
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 2: rules of, Normal light like it was just, like whoa

624
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: you KNOW what, I mean like he just.

625
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 3: HAD that, I say i feel like everybody that Talks

626
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: about prince says that. Same thing like it's almost like

627
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: he like floats in instead of like. Walking in i'm,

628
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 3: like WHAT but i, was Like clearly i've never been

629
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 3: met up a peak or, you know.

630
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 2: Like, telling YOU and i don't know if it's too

631
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 2: like some, OF it i think what must, have been.

632
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 2: YOU know i try to think.

633
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: About the mysticism That. Is, prince yeah and.

634
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: Some OF that i think probably is constructed by like

635
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: like SO because i try to think about this experience,

636
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: in hindsight LIKE when i, met HIM before i actually

637
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: got to shake, HIS hand i, SAW him i saw

638
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: a door open up and purple light came out, the

639
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 2: room and then he. Came out what, That? Was PRINCE

640
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: now i think back, to that go if you don't even,

641
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: BELIEVE me, I go i swear, to you like a

642
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: purple light came Out and i'm like a.

643
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: Rational guy, YOU know i. Studied philosophy i'm a.

644
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: Rational GUY like, i LIKE so i started to think

645
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: Back that, i'm like he must change the lights where

646
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: he goes so if, He like i'm gonna be like

647
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: he must have someone, come change, you know because and

648
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: he probably thought about things in that way and in

649
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: some way helped create. That mystique but there was still

650
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: even just, meeting him Like like Mona and mont like

651
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: there was a something innate in him too that, was like,

652
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: all right he's the man like, man like it don't

653
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: matter you five, Foot another you're, the man like you're.

654
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: That guy and it, also too there was like about

655
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: five six girls just, going crazy like just screaming like

656
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: he was just like, you're, like man this is, this

657
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: is this, dude's another this. Dude's another but not too.

658
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: Many artists can like invoke that type. Of emotions it,

659
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: was like, you know that was. The error that was

660
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: the error for that was the era, for man, You Know.

661
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: Prince, MICHAEL jackson i mean they to.

662
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: Live dog that, WAS like, i mean imagine being. A

663
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: start imagine you imagine being one of the most famous

664
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: people in the world in the, mid.

665
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: Eighties right there so many of. Them too it's like,

666
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 3: you know Like Even eddie murphy for a second broke

667
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: into the. Music, World Yeah, mick jagger, you know like

668
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 3: there was to your, point right the acting they could

669
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 3: have all. Over here we're gonna do. Some music we're

670
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: going to do some modeling like just. Did, everything yeah

671
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: absolutely look like but bring tears out, of people, you

672
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: know like just Impress of lufah big and little, You

673
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: know but, all right how do you how do you

674
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: feel about, you know taking it over as the main

675
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: host of.

676
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: The, podcast uh, you know it's a. It's surreal it's

677
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: big shoes. To fill but, You know i'm just a music,

678
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: Fan man so like, to me, YOU know i my,

679
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: whole Life like i've loved every kind, of music, all eras,

680
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: all everything And so I'M just i LOVE and i

681
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,239
Speaker 2: love talking. To people i'm. NATURALLY curious, I love, I

682
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: love i love talking to like, you know like like

683
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: everyone's interesting, to ME but i really. Love music and

684
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: so just the IDEA that i could just get to

685
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: sit there and talk with people who, YOU know i

686
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: really RESPECT and, i know, YOU know i know like

687
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: every detail of like. Their background it's just like you

688
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: get to kind of nerd out with them for an hour.

689
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: Or two like, It's unbelievable like, You know you're just

690
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: sitting There with will and you just going through your

691
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: mind like, this song, that song, this movie. That movie

692
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: And then i'm, Sitting there, i'm realizing Like when i'm preparing,

693
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: for it like, You know Men, in black, huge movie,

694
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: huge single or, huge song but was never. A single so,

695
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: you're saying, you're THINKING like i was asking him, ABOUT that,

696
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: i go you were so famous and so big that

697
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: you could release you could put a, song out not

698
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 2: even put it out as, a single like where you're

699
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: doing the normal promotional little and it would, still chart

700
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: like it would still be like the biggest song on.

701
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 2: The play that's like AND then i was looking back

702
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: to you and he had never really done any press

703
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: really like as a as, a rapper as, a musician

704
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: as a guy, in music like like all, this stuff

705
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: and that it was like geared towards like FILM.

706
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: And, tv right but he Probably, minus summertime, you.

707
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: KNOW minus i couldn't even really find anything in that

708
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: era really like he didn't do like after it seems

709
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: like after he got On The, fresh prints like he

710
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: didn't do much press as a as a as a

711
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: as a rapper. Or anything so you're like that was

712
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: just A nuts so to be able to sit there

713
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: and really get kind of his story as, a rapper,

714
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: you know whatever you think about him as. A rapper,

715
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: you know like there's plenty of people all, he's corny

716
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: is this? Is that but like there's there's really good

717
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: stuff out of, his catalog and he had really, big

718
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: hits so he's fascinated, to me you KNOW what. I

719
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: mean so to get his story like that was was.

720
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: Was amazing, so yeah it's like big Shoes. To phil,

721
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: You know I'm No, Rick rubin I'm No, malcolm GLABO

722
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: but I just i, love, music MAN and i have

723
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: a lot of respect for it from from guys like

724
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: that to, you know to to uh like, you know

725
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: young young cats like who don't have much of a

726
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: following even you KNOW what. I MEAN like I love

727
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: i love. ALL music i. Love Everything so i'm always

728
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: out trying to hear stuff and, watch music, you know

729
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: go go see.

730
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: Some shows you din't feel like it's it's too much

731
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: pressure to do pressure from.

732
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: It all like now you're the, Main guy like it

733
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: was a lot easier for me holding some podcasts when

734
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: it's me.

735
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: And, marking yeah, you know.

736
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: When you when it's it's it's due you out. There

737
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: tangling you can rip off each other now it's.

738
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: Just, you yeah a lot.

739
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: Of, voice yeah but.

740
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: You know that's part. Of growth, that's. Growth man you

741
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: know what, so yeah is? It, pressure yeah but it's

742
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: it's like. Everything's. Pressure man that's like. Everything's pressure everything,

743
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: is hard, nothing's easy you KNOW what. I Mean like

744
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: i'm never One of. I'm not i'm not one of

745
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: those people who were like everything just, came EASY like.

746
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: I had i had to work. For everything, you know.

747
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: You have a wilderness Here from, that's right. That's right

748
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: just know what happened to this? WILDERNESS year.

749
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: I can't speak.

750
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: On, that yeah, you know it's probably why you you

751
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: were for a.

752
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: Lawyer president you Know what.

753
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying you refer referred to your career as a

754
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: bunch of.

755
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: Happy, accidents yeah, it's true and that's sort of that's

756
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: sort of what it.

757
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: Alludes to, that's.

758
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: TRUE man, i mean so there is so MUCH of

759
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: i was even talking to someone Just on FRIDAY who i.

760
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: WAS asking i was just getting their advice on some

761
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: different investments, and things because like, You know i'm starting

762
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: to think about that now because.

763
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: Now you want to talk.

764
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: About investments friday where the stock, market, crashes, well.

765
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah because i'm, like money and this. IS crashing i

766
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: finally got. Some money this is.

767
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: GOING down i put, Some money like, we're LIKE and i.

768
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: WAS down.

769
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: I got LUCKY because i even really been thinking about investments.

770
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: My LIFE so i have, no, my, My my i'm a.

771
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: Cash guy right now it's the.

772
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: Perfect time.

773
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: I'm good So now, i'm like WHAT can i WHAT

774
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: can i put my, you know WHAT can i? Get

775
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: into BUT and i was talking to this guy who's

776
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: been prettyuccessful in. The market, he's like, you know so

777
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: much of it is he, was, in like so much

778
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: of it, is luck. You know and it's like that

779
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: is a common ingredient in. Everyone's story you could, work

780
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: hard you could be. Really talented you could work hard

781
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: and be. Really talented BUT there's, i mean luck is

782
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: such a whatever. LUCK is i don't even never even

783
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: really sad to think about what, it is like what

784
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: is in our lives and in the world how. That

785
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: operates but like there's definitely an element of luck and

786
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: and everything and bad, luck too like and misfortune and.

787
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: All, That right but we all have friends and you're, be,

788
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: like bro this could have, been HIM or i could

789
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: have been, like HIM or i could have been down bad,

790
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: like him and just one turn or, one incident one whatever,

791
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: it is could have easily flipped my life in a completely.

792
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: Different direction, yeah, yeah yeah you think about that's. Scary

793
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: too so THAT'S why i try to just operate off

794
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: goodwill and, good energy keep the, vibration vibration and, try to,

795
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: you know as LONG as. I can you.

796
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: KNOW facts, i mean, you know we only got. One

797
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: life let it be a. Good life.

798
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: That's it, You know i'm here to be a blessing

799
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: to others and hopefully they'll be a blessing.

800
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: To me, all right let's turn into the. Finals question

801
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: i'm gonna give you my five my top five hip hop.

802
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: Artists lists, oh shoot you got that on you, got that.

803
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: AND like i just want to give it, to you

804
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: and then like you tell me how you feel, about

805
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: it and it's mine by, The, way okay it's, very

806
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: very very.

807
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: Very BIASED AND i i went to college In.

808
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: The bay, you Know Your west, Coast Guy.

809
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: West, coast guy so You know i'm Also but i'm also,

810
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: you know eighty, nine BABIES so i grew up coming up.

811
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: Through here so, for me top five number ONE because

812
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 3: i could listen to them, all day every day of.

813
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: My life it's Gonna Be lil wayne best, rapper, life

814
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: UH because i grew up in that. Dat piff you

815
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: know The, mixtape wayne you can't bring me a better artist.

816
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: And.

817
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: Mixtape wait he was dropping a mixtape every three to four.

818
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: Weeks and making the, songs, better better making the, songs

819
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: better LIKE like.

820
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: I can't feel my face IT was. I was i,

821
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: was like how do you? Remix?

822
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: This ah like it was unreal to see what. HE

823
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: was i was looking forward to somebody. Dropping music. Swag

824
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: surf Listen To little wayne swagsurf and tell me you

825
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: don't feel DIFFERENTLY like i was looking, forward.

826
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: Like oh You know wayne about to do.

827
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah man and then by the, time too like, after

828
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: after like after he blew up off the mixtapes and

829
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: he's putting out STUFF like i was gonna call my

830
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: wife other Day and lollipop came ON and i was, just,

831
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: like man if you were like when this song came

832
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 2: on when you, were out, no doubt like, come, on

833
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: wow that, was like, Come ON wayne's i love way

834
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: big big.

835
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: Energy guy so my following two are big. Energy guys

836
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: D M x Love And. Buster Rhymes.

837
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: Buster rhymes my it's my it's my sleeper pick nobody really.

838
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: Agrees With but I'm Like buster woo like like it

839
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 3: was just a from time when he was a part

840
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: of a group until the time he. Was solo like he, was,

841
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 3: like say if you listen to his discography. IS crazy, i.

842
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 3: SAID don't, i, said don't.

843
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: Don't just take busting, because, like oh there's.

844
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 3: Better lyricists, i'm saying but that energy involved brought Me

845
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 3: In buster rhymes.

846
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: IS incredible. I don't he's not on my, top five,

847
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: but honestly you're a man. Of taste look is a man?

848
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: Of, Taste yeah AND then i SORT of i sort of,

849
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: fight myself LIKE do i go cam in OR do

850
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: I go entred, three Thousand and i'm like common sense

851
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: was my.

852
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: Guy comment.

853
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: You know we'd be started, focusing on, you know the,

854
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 3: actor part, and, yeah Yeah So i'm i'm around that

855
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: out and just throw them. In There just i'm Gonna

856
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: throw i'm Gonna throw andred two thousand in there because as, number, four,

857
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 3: yeah yeah. Hundred thousand as a feature as a, feature

858
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: artist there's nobody cleaner you want.

859
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: On your on your on Your feature.

860
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: Believe he comes in with LIKE what i would dedicate

861
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 3: a whole song. To, him no but if he's a,

862
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: feature artist there's no cleaner person as a.

863
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: Feature artist i'll.

864
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: Take, him yeah solo, feature yeah, cast, absolutely please please gonna,

865
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: Be outcast just do it.

866
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 4: For me and then, You know common ain't gonna make.

867
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 4: You Fine, He, common no.

868
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: He's not gonna.

869
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: Make fine it was between them too because on the

870
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: on the, BACK end i have FORTY because i. Just,

871
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: can't YEAH like i like like it's it's forty water, like.

872
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: Incredible, No doubt like he was out there dropping.

873
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: Double, albums yeah and like you can always Go like

874
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: Ludacris or juvie and their honorary mentioned.

875
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: Honorable mentions ludacris is underrated, these, days man crazy thing

876
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: because he was he. Was, huge shit you don't know me.

877
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 2: Like that, he's underrated he's he's. He's great but e,

878
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: FORTY man i. LOVE you i love, FORTY man I

879
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: love i Love mac. Dre Too like the By the

880
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: bay in general kind of doesn't get the love. IT should. I, think.

881
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: Man that's just my top five for.

882
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 3: My Playlist like i'm thinking in, My mind i'm not

883
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: going to go, like, oh man they can go bar

884
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: for bar.

885
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: For whoever sure. They could But if i'm in, the

886
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: playlist these are my.

887
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: TOP five i, Say though i'll, say THOUGH like i

888
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 2: Feel like wayne probably could go bar like even like

889
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: people an't look at, me crazy he's an. Outleague, Ever

890
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: like but when there was that moment this year or late,

891
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: last year like when it was Like are Wayne and

892
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: kendrick are they gonna is there gonna be some? Beef

893
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: fear like are they going to buy? THE battle i

894
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: WAS like.

895
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: I decided everyone was telling, me, like Oh like wayne

896
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 4: don't want. To go wayne's mister, Off top like there's,

897
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 4: a chance like we. GOT this i know he's a little,

898
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 4: older now but, it's, like yeah.

899
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: It's A chance wayne. Got.

900
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: THIS yeah i, was, like man you're Looking at catchwayne

901
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: in this Prime because wayne was was out here ripping

902
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: off the top of. His, dome, hey wait what are?

903
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: YOU right i don't write it's coming out, with fire

904
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: say you. Don't, write ah, that's, Right man.

905
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: BUT uh i, appreciate you uh at least respect.

906
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 2: For. Me artist let, me, say though you GOTTA put

907
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: poc on. That list doc, come.

908
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: On whoa now that's a hot topic for ME because

909
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: i took a class at Cal, about tupac did You?

910
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: Cour.

911
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely now HIS mom i got nothing but respect

912
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: for And, NOW.

913
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: Tupac i just don't no Respect. For tupac you took

914
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: a whole Class.

915
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: On tupac respect For Tux and i'll tell. You why

916
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: it's because he was because he's really it's because we

917
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: claim him As A west coaster and he's Really a.

918
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: Baltmo cat well.

919
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: He's.

920
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: Everything, guy yeah, he's Brown He's New york's virginia and.

921
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 4: Look pot Born, like, Harlem right Really A New yorker

922
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: baltimore and then To the bay or To.

923
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: L a but and then beefing with Somebody From. New

924
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: york you start your.

925
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: Origin point but that's why he but he got He, got,

926
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: look man he's, Universal though that's why. He's universe went

927
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: to a.

928
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: Went to a fine art School.

929
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: In baltimore that's range.

930
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: He was he's in, my mind he's really. A dancer

931
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: THAT'S what i can never take. Him serious he was he.

932
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: WASN'T dancing i can't take.

933
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: You, serious hey, but hey so was like, you know

934
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: think about a big Daddy camee drake and he had

935
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: dancing like hip hop used to be that like he

936
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: used to and THAT'S why coolj will never be in

937
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: because he was really.

938
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: A love he was.

939
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: A lover he was a lover, boy, like Hello cool

940
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: FACTS and i LOVE that's, i said just not in my,

941
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: top five, you know like.

942
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: Because might really be like there was like someone asked,

943
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: him recently like and, He said i'm the go and

944
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: EVERYONE got i, was like there's a WORLD where j

945
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 2: really has, An argument LIKE col j has one of

946
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: the first great hipop albums In Radio Shout Out rick

947
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: rubin Produced By Rick. Rubin radio then you think about

948
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: he switched like and that's early that he. Produced jam

949
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: then you move then you move to like, you, know

950
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: like uh going Back, to, cali right he goes out

951
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 2: here with the with the Uh The dust brothers out

952
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: here IN. L a i think it Was The dust

953
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: brothers that, Did, that yeah out here IN. L a then, you,

954
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: know yeah then he. GETS it, i, mean, dude. Yeah

955
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: absolutely he has so many different.

956
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: Era buckets but in, My mind, I'm like I'M like

957
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 3: i Still see americans Like method man And the nines

958
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: and Then oh methan my guy and me t a Sho.

959
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: D man oh that's really my, God, TOO dang. I forgot.

960
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry method like a little with method, like that,

961
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: but YEAH like i got.

962
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 3: A hole like when people Like Man West, Coast toupac,

963
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: i'm like we don't say it, about like, Come On

964
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: chris brown's not From The.

965
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: West coast don't do that.

966
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: To, HIM man, i said send him back To The.

967
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: East coast he's really it Was Really east Coast Versus.

968
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: East coast it was a whole battle that.

969
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: All, of them for sure walks The, guy fox, come,

970
00:39:59,120 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: on man, come on.

971
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: Background decks in, my mind he was like empty hammer somewhere.

972
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: In there can't. Touch this he was out, there Dancing

973
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: And i'm i'm never gonna put him in my top

974
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: five for. THAT reason, i mean you can't.

975
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 2: Do it background dancer to dropping me against, the world allies?

976
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: On me come? On right, like no, but that like

977
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: you don't see the range in that. Too active i'm

978
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: not here for. The raine think about the man lived

979
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: to twenty five. YEARS old a year of that's, in jail.

980
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: No doubt so twenty four. Years old how, many albums how?

981
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: Many movies that's that's.

982
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 3: The crazy, it's impressive and yet my perception. Is everything

983
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: that's why it's. My list, i'm, LIKE no i. Get it,

984
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: i'm like you have every.

985
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: Right to feel.

986
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 4: That way it's like In, back arizona get a big

987
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 4: biggie Biggie versus i'm really Just a.

988
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: Southwest kid. GET him i was Born, in MINNESOTA so

989
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: i HAVE no i have no rights. AS well I

990
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 3: claim southwest. Oh MAN but i appreciate you joined. The

991
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 3: pod Bro's been it's been amazing here off. The EDGE

992
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 3: when i, tell you this has been one of my more,

993
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,600
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994
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,880
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995
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,840
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996
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,759
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997
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: and i'm Standing on tinto's about WHAT how.

998
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: I feel you just say you don't respect to pilot