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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This episode number one, and today

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Speaker 1: on the show, Dan and I are doing a deep

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Speaker 1: dive into our own two thousand seventeen deer hunting seasons

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Speaker 1: to discuss the mistakes we made, the lessons we learned,

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Speaker 1: and the areas were hoping to improve on in two

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Speaker 1: thousand eighteen. Hey, guys, before we get into the episode,

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Speaker 1: I want to point out two quick things. First, for

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Speaker 1: some reason, my microphone on this recording was acting up

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Speaker 1: So apologies for that in advance. And secondly, I just

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Speaker 1: want to mention here in this intro, as you just heard,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be discussing me in Dance two thousand

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Speaker 1: seventeen seasons and reviewing what we did right and what

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Speaker 1: we did wrong. So you might be asking yourself, though,

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Speaker 1: how is this, How is this valuable to me the listener? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think at the surface level you can learn something

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Speaker 1: here from the specific examples we bring up, such as

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Speaker 1: the unique hunting decisions or situations or challenges that we

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Speaker 1: encountered throughout the season that we're talk about here over

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Speaker 1: the next hour or so. So you can learn something

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Speaker 1: from those actual hunting elements, but just as important, I

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Speaker 1: think you can learn something about the process we went

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Speaker 1: through here, the actual act of reflecting on the past

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Speaker 1: hunting season. Our goals are expectations, are steps towards those goals,

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Speaker 1: are failings towards those goals. And I think and I

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Speaker 1: hope that by listening to us discuss these things and

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Speaker 1: then thinking about how you could try this yourself, you

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Speaker 1: can actually learn a little bit about how to better

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Speaker 1: review your own season. And maybe you'll pick up some

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Speaker 1: good ideas, maybe you'll know some things that you don't

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Speaker 1: want to do. Um Either way, i'd encourage you to

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Speaker 1: listen to this conversation through that lens of your own season,

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Speaker 1: and then try doing some reflection like this on your

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Speaker 1: own in the coming days. I hope that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: find that to be a valuable exercise. And so with

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Speaker 1: all that said, enough of me. Let's get right into it,

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Speaker 1: all right, folks. Welcome back to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by sick gear

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Speaker 1: and today it is just myself and Mr Dan Johnson

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Speaker 1: there over in Iowa. And today what I wanted us

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Speaker 1: to do, Dan, if you're up for this, is I

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Speaker 1: want to look back at two thousand seventeen. You know,

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Speaker 1: January two eighteen, and the hunting season is behind us.

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Speaker 1: So I want to take a look at all the

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Speaker 1: mistake because we made. I want to take a look

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Speaker 1: at all the things that maybe we did well, um,

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Speaker 1: the lessons we learned. UM. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: the end of the season, I spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: time looking back and thinking through and kind of reflecting

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Speaker 1: on you know, were there any themes that that I

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Speaker 1: kind of noticed from the season. Was there any big

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Speaker 1: things that should have done differently? Or Um? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just spent a lot of time thinking back on

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Speaker 1: I felt like this was just anyway. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: This was a frustrating season. Um, So I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure that I'm learning from this. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's I think in any time you fail or come

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Speaker 1: So I should, as how better grow from this season

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Speaker 1: and hopefully that then provides, you know, like an illustration

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Speaker 1: but I guess before we get into the meat of it,

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Speaker 1: Do you have any Dad's stories. I gotta tell you

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Speaker 1: better take advantage of these now, Dan, because in a

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Speaker 1: almost when you know, like how important what what is

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Speaker 1: I've always thought of what this other deer hunter told me.

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Speaker 1: He's a hardcore deer hunter, and he told he told

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Speaker 1: realize how much your parents loved you until the day

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Speaker 1: this tectonic shift in life. And uh, you know, as

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Speaker 1: well I can do that. I can't believe I just

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Speaker 1: It might be interesting for people to have kids, but

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Speaker 1: us talking about babies. Dude. It's just that's part of life, right,

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Speaker 1: just wait till Mark has his kid. Man, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: your heart pumping. I mean, it is very understandable that

431
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: you might get a little fired up and and get

432
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: sugar happy and and and I don't know, is there

433
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: is there something wrong with that? If you got excited

434
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: in a moment um by that deer you saw and

435
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: you were thrilled by that opportunity and you took that shot,

436
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: was that necessarily the worst in the world. I don't know.

437
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: I understand. I mean, I understand what you're saying. And

438
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: it didn't it wasn't your goal, and that's something you

439
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: want to get better at. But I don't know if

440
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: it's um that goes back to the whole deeper slew

441
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: of questions than I guess about about our roles and

442
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: stuff going in the season. But yeah, I mean, you know,

443
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: some people say, some people say, you know, they say,

444
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: one second mark in the chair. No, you gotta go

445
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: in the living room, Bubba, You're gonna be quiet. So

446
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Hashtag dad life right, So um, you know,

447
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: some people say, you know, don't don't shoot a buck.

448
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: You know, don't pass a buck that you would shoot

449
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: on the last day of the season. I don't know

450
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: if I like that idea. You know, if I have

451
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: the time, I think my standards do change as a

452
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: season progresses. So if I was to say, you know,

453
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: you know, a certain caliber of deer comes through the

454
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: timber and I pass it, but later on that that

455
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: caliber of deer becomes acceptable later on in the season,

456
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: you know what, I think, I'm okay with that. Yeah,

457
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: I kind of tend to agree. For me too, I've

458
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: had that same thing happened myself. I don't stay what

459
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: people are saying. But at the same time, um that

460
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: I don't know your desire, My desires or hopes out

461
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: of a season do changes the year goes by, and

462
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: what would make me happiness season sometimes changes too. You know,

463
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, I go into a year,

464
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm gonna hold out for a really

465
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: really old buck or one buck or a giant buck

466
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be, because you know, you're naive

467
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: and optimistic at that point and everything seems possible. Um.

468
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: But then as you get to three months into it,

469
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: then just the idea of you know, having some kind

470
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: of success or just putting me in the freezer, or

471
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: just killing a decent buck that might make you really happy,

472
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: and what's wrong with that? You know? Right? Right? So

473
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: now I kind of want to ask that same question

474
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: to you because your your white Tail season got interesting

475
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: when holy Field showed up on camera again and remind

476
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: us all what that date was, so he would back

477
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: up on camera mid September two, so before the season started. Now,

478
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: when you got that picture, how long did it take

479
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: for you to say it's holy Field or bust? That night?

480
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: Basically when I decided that it was holy Field for sure. Um,

481
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, I started comparing pictures and as we talked

482
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: all year, and we talked to all of last year, right,

483
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: holy Field was this deer that I've been trying to

484
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: kill for now to two and a half years or

485
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: whatever it was. And yeah, if he if he made

486
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: it back, he was gonna be the one and he

487
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: was going to be what my whole season would revolve around.

488
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: And I went into the season, you know, knowing that

489
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: and being okay with that. Um, but maybe naively I

490
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna happen. I was there. I was

491
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: too confident that if he was there, I was going

492
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: to kill um. Despite challenges I've had doing that in

493
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: the past, to a degree, Um. So I'll tell you, man,

494
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with you there though. I mean,

495
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: if you if you look at annual patterns. I had

496
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: a I had a really good conversation with a guy

497
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: yesterday actually about annual patterns. And if you were making

498
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: your decision based off of annual patterns, I would have

499
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: went into the season gunning for holy Field with a

500
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: very high level of certainty, you know what I mean? Yeah,

501
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: And I mean as as much as you can be

502
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: confident in killing the mature buck in Michigan on essentially

503
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: forty acres of huntable ground. I mean, I had about

504
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: as good as circumstances coming to the seasons as you

505
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: could ask for, given the experiences I had seen the

506
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: stare in the past. And um, in a lot of ways,

507
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: it went about as good as I could ask for.

508
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't go as as good as I

509
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: could have asked for because I didn't kill him. Um,

510
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: but a lot of things did go pretty darn close

511
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: to going well. Um, and you just don't. I've talked

512
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: to a lot of buddies, and here in Michigan, a

513
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: lot of the guys hunting in situations similar to this,

514
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: and my situation with holy Field is just really unique

515
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: to this area. You just don't get many bucks that

516
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: make it to this age, and you don't get bucks

517
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: you get to see as often as I got to

518
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: see this here and have as many encounters and chances

519
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: at him. Um, there just aren't many mature bucks to

520
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: go around, especially not on a small property like this

521
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: with you know, just limited cover, etcetera, etcetera. So so

522
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: I think, to one one way looking at things, I

523
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: should look at this season as I was really darn

524
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: lucky that I made a decision last winter, last late season.

525
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I could kill him in

526
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: muzzletter season, but I think he can make it. If

527
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: I don't kill him, it would be really awesome to

528
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: hunt him next year. That was the decision I made

529
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: in two thousand sixteen, and I knew that there was

530
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: a really good chance he might not make it till then.

531
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: He could die over the course of the winter or

532
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: get hit by a car or something. But I got

533
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: really lucky and fortunate and he didn't. He made it

534
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: to the hunting season, and so I got what I wanted, right,

535
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: I got a chance to hunt him again. I got

536
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: the chance for that excitement again. Um, the thrill of

537
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: chasing this deer. Um, I got that. So that is

538
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: a win, I suppose. I mean that's a really that

539
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: was a positive thing to take from this season that

540
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: I made a decision to pass a deer because it

541
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: wasn't about just putting antlers on the wall. It was

542
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: about extending this experience and having this experience in the

543
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: way I wanted to have it, um, And I was

544
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: able to achieve that for the most part. So that

545
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: was pretty cool. Um. So I'm gonna just jump right

546
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: into it because I want to know. But from a

547
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: strategy standpoint, this season, I mean, this deer was all

548
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: over the place. He made himself visible to you in

549
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: this this um certain amount of acreage that you have

550
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: access to. You know, you played cat and mouse with

551
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: him the entire season. You had uh several encounters with him.

552
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: You had one mishap type of an encounter. With all

553
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: that aside, do you think that you did everything you

554
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: possibly could have done to put yourself into the best

555
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: possible position to to I guess, harvest this animal. No, Um,

556
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: I think I did a lot of things right. I did.

557
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: I almost did enough to kill him. Um. But there

558
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: were certainly still mistakes. So I've gone through and thought through,

559
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: like all the different little things that maybe I've done wrong,

560
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: um little mistakes. I've made things that could have done differently.

561
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: So there definitely are things I picked out. I wish

562
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: I had done this differently. I wish I'd done that differently.

563
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: First and foremost, the very most obvious, and you can

564
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: look at this as a good thing. You can look

565
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: at this is a bad thing. On the good side,

566
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: I for the first time, um, for the first time

567
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: since two thousand fifteen, I was able to be in

568
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: shooting range, clear, easy, peasy shot at holy Field with

569
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: a bow on November seven. I had him at yards

570
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: and the wide open. I could have killed holy Field.

571
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: So I put myself in the right place at the

572
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: right time without getting winded. I got in there the

573
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: right access, I picked the right place to be. So

574
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: those things were all good things that I can look

575
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: at and say, hey, that was good. Essentially did what

576
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: I needed to do to kill that buck, except for

577
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: the final most important thing, which was to be looking

578
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: up and see him come in and not be looking

579
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: at your cell phone. So that was a big, of course,

580
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: the most obvious, glaring mistake of my entire season. Was

581
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: I blew my opportunity at achieving my number one goal

582
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: because I was looking at my phone as he walked in.

583
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was there, and he saw me

584
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: when I did turn around to see him. So that

585
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: was the big one. Um. So let's let's expand that

586
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. Did that affect you so much that

587
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: it's going to change your behavior in the tree stand

588
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: moving forward a little bit? Yes, yes it did. But

589
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm I'm not gonna lie to you

590
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: and say I'm never gonna look at my phone again. Um,

591
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: that's just impossible, probably at least for me personally, I

592
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: don't have that kind of focus. But I've definitely since then,

593
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: I've gotten better at it. I've spent much less time

594
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: on the phone, and when I do look at the phone,

595
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm much more paranoid now, so I look at the

596
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: phone for like two seconds, look up, two seconds, look up. Um.

597
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: So I've definitely gotten better and more aware of that. Um.

598
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: And definitely I think if this will be a great

599
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: kind of learning moment for me for the future when

600
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: it comes to all day sits um. Because one of

601
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: the good things I did this year is I hunted

602
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: a lot of all day sits. I think I put

603
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: in like fourteen or fifteen days where I hunted the

604
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: entire day. Um, And I'm proud of myself for that.

605
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: I was happy, Like that was the thing I can

606
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: look back in the season say, hey, you did a

607
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: good job on that market. That was something you said

608
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: you would do, and you stuck with it and you

609
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: toughed it out, even though a lot of those days

610
00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: were miserable, long didn't see anything, etcetera, etcetera. But this

611
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: was one of the situations where you know, it almost

612
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: paid off. I was there at eleven o'clock in the

613
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: afternoon and so was he. Um. So I just need

614
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: to now get better at staying focused during that time period. Um.

615
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: It's really easy to not think you need to be

616
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: focused because of the time you're not seeing anything. But

617
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: I did see a lot of midday activity this year,

618
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: so more so than any other year probably. I was

619
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: just reminded of the fact that this isn't just something

620
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: that they tell you in the magazines or that Mark

621
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: preaches on the podcast all the time. They're actually some

622
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: truth to it. Um. So this is another good reminder

623
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: of me for me. Of that, I on the flip side, Um,

624
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: I think that there were a handful of other small things. Well,

625
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: let's take a step back here, Dan, because I am

626
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: looking at this through a lens um that that you

627
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: are not looking through it yet, and that the listeners

628
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: aren't looking through it yet, And that is this thing.

629
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: I believe that holy Field is dead. You believe that

630
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: holy Field is dead. I think the hunt for holy

631
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: Field is done. Okay, Wait a second, Yeah, we haven't.

632
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: I've not. I've not said this publicly yet, but I

633
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: think it's done. Okay. So the last time I thought

634
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: I talked with you is that the gun season was

635
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: over and you had trail camera pictures of him. It

636
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: wasn't a trail Cara picture of him. It was a

637
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: sight a sighting my wife. My wife had seen him

638
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: in a field from the road. She does a wonderful

639
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: job of being an extra set of scouting eyes for

640
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: me in the evenings when I'm not around, She'll she'll

641
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 1: check this area out every once in a while because

642
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: it's close to home. And um, she told me she

643
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: saw him the evening of December one. I was in

644
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: Ohio that night, Okay, And that was the day after

645
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: gun season. So at that point I was really excited

646
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: he made it through guns season. I thought that there

647
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: were very good chances then that the worst of the um,

648
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: the worst of the threats to him being killed by

649
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: someone else were done. Um. So when I got back

650
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: from Ohio, I waited a couple of days for this

651
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: cold front I was supposed to hit, and once that

652
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: cold front hit, I started hunting. Um. But from that

653
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: point on I did not get another sighting of him.

654
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: I did not get a trail camera picture of him. Um.

655
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this in a past episode, but

656
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: I didn't get a trailer I've not had a picture

657
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: of him since October. So even though even though I

658
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: was seeing him November, the last time I personally saw

659
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: him was November. And then, you know, like I said,

660
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: no pictures all through that time period. Then my wife

661
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: got a sighting of him on December one, and I

662
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: believe he made it through the gun season, but again

663
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: no pictures. Um. No sightings or pictures through December, and

664
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: then around Christmas give or take. Sometime around that, I

665
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: don't remember exactly what it was uh. Um, I heard

666
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: a rumor of a neighbor having killed a big buck.

667
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: And so I've been trying to confirm this. I've been

668
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: texting some other people in the area. UM, and this guy. UM.

669
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: Basically the from a friend of a friend said that

670
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: a neighbor, a guy from a neighboring property, killed a

671
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: big buck over here. UM. I don't know, I don't know,

672
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: I don't know anything more. Really, I don't know where

673
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: this was. I don't know what this person would off

674
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: would call a big buck. UM, but it would kind

675
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: of make sense that this guy killed him with a

676
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: muzzleloader if we saw him December one, and let me

677
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: take a step back, UM, my wife also heard a

678
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: really loud muzzleloader shot on December two, UM, the day

679
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: after she saw this buck. After she saw holy Field

680
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: out in the wide open field. The next day, she

681
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: she heard a really loud gun shot. UM. And that

682
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen that often. So it was somewhere nearby, um,

683
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: right after she had seen holy Field moving in daylight.

684
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: So between those two things and then finding out that

685
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: the neighbor supposed to kill a big buck and this

686
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: neighbor hunts a property, the interesting thing about this situation,

687
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: if anyone was gonna kill holy Field I would not

688
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: have thought it would have been this gentleman. Um, because

689
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: this guy just owns field edge. Um, he owns no cover.

690
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: He just has a big field. I don't even know

691
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: if any of the trees are on his property at all.

692
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: So and he I've only ever seen this guy go

693
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: out hunt like two or three times in the last

694
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: like six or seven years. I've been hunting this property,

695
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: Like he's never out there. I don't think he's a

696
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: very serious hunt at all. Um, I don't I don't

697
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: know him personally, I don't know the details. So this

698
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: is just assumptions I'm making, but based on observation from

699
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: a distance. And you know, when I've been out there

700
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: a couple of times, have seen this person or someone

701
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: out there. Um, this was not where I thought holy

702
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: Field's threat was, especially since this year. Although then, like

703
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: back in the back of the property, holy Field was

704
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: not moving out in the open fields too much, especially

705
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: out by the roads. But long story short, this person

706
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: supposed we killed a big deer that coincided closely with

707
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: when we stopped getting sightings of him and when a

708
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: gunshot was heard in the area. Um, and I don't know,

709
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: I have no pictures of him, no sightings of him,

710
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: and just like that gut feeling that tells me he's

711
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: probably gone. Now I could be completely wrong, because like

712
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: I said, I mean I saw him a bunch in November,

713
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: but didn't get a single trailcra picture of him despite that,

714
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: So he certainly has the ability to avoid my cameras.

715
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: And on the other hand, in October I didn't see

716
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: him at all, but I did get trailcare pictures of him.

717
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: He definitely changed his behavior a lot this season. Um.

718
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: In the past two years, he was much more visible,

719
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: he was much more on camera, he was much more active.

720
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: This year, he he became like old Bucks do, and

721
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: he became much more of a hermit. He didn't move

722
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: at all, except for at least I didn't see him

723
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: moving during daylight at all, except for a fourteen went

724
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: day window from Halloween to November. That was the only

725
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: daylight setting as I got. I think I had ten

726
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: settings or eleven settings or something like that in that window,

727
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: and that was it the whole season. I didn't see

728
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: him way off from the distance like I've seen him

729
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: in the past. Um, So he could be alive and

730
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: he could be hold up in some little cranny or

731
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: some swamp or somewhere else where, you know, he can

732
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: just get get by and not have any pressure from humans.

733
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: And this neighbor maybe just shot some other buck that

734
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: I didn't know about. But just the fact that I

735
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: had only seen holy Field, Holy Feel was the only

736
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: big buck I was getting on trail camera. He was

737
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: the only big buck I was seeing. Um. I mean,

738
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: there was no other buck that I would qualify as

739
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: big that I even got pictures of the whole season.

740
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: So I just I'm thinking, you know, if this guy

741
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: is saying to kill a big buck, I don't know

742
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: what other big bucket could be because there haven't been

743
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: any others. But at the same time, to you know,

744
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: ten days ago or whatever, I saw a random giant

745
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: on this property that I've never seen before, and he

746
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: just showed up. So it's not to say that there

747
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: couldn't be some random other deer in the area that

748
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: just never came out of the property. I can hunt.

749
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: But this guy, this guy killed. Um. I talked to

750
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: another neighbor today about this very issue, you know, talking

751
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: about what I think maybe what happened, and this guy

752
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: said that he saw like three or four different pretty

753
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: respectable big Bucks over on his side, UM, that I

754
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: never saw at all. And um, and that's not that

755
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: far away. So so I'm making assumptions. I'm maybe I'm

756
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: being too negative on this. I have not gotten confirmation.

757
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: I've stopped by this person's house, UM, trying to trying

758
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: to ask him if you know, he'll share me a picture,

759
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: you know, chatting with me about what happened, just because

760
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm curious to get confirmation on this, and he hasn't

761
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: been home, so I'm hoping to get some kind of

762
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: confirmation soon. Just hasn't happened yet. Um. But so I'm

763
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: looking through all of these things related to holy Field

764
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: and the decisions I made, the good things and the

765
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: bad things. I'm looking at them through the lens of

766
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: it being done right, um, which which I thought was

767
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: worth pointing out. So I I'm going to reflect back

768
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: on the buck I was chasing shipwreck, right, you know

769
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: that story. But at the end of every season, I

770
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: would make the assumption that I was never going to

771
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: see him again until I got confirmation that he didn't

772
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't show up on trail cameras or

773
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: I didn't see him from the tree stand I mean,

774
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: but I didn't allow that buck necessarily to dictate what

775
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: I was going to do if I, you know, if

776
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: I didn't have conversations confirmation that he was alive or not.

777
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: So you don't know the You don't know whether or

778
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: not he's dead. You have a gut fee thinking he's dead.

779
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: How are you going to approach this upcoming season? Are

780
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: you assuming? Are I mean, I guess are you? I

781
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: know you're assuming he's dead? But are you going to

782
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: let it dictate what you're doing from here on out

783
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: for say, maybe upcoming season with no verification? So so,

784
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: first and foremost, I am going to try to get

785
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: confirmation at least from this guy to try to figure

786
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: out what buck he did shoot, so at least I

787
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: can have that question answer. I'm going to try to

788
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: talk to this person figure that out at least um.

789
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 1: But otherwise I think that, yes, I'm gonna go into

790
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: the season assuming he's dead unless I see him or

791
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: get a picture of him. Even if this guy says, oh, no,

792
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: I didn't shoot a big buck, or here's the picture

793
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: and it's some other deer. Um. Even if that's the case,

794
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: I'm still going to go into the season assuming he's dead,

795
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: hoping for the best, but assuming he's probably gone. Um

796
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: but I will be taking the things I learned from

797
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: this past season applying them to next year. And um

798
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, still going to be using that all that

799
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: the things that picked up from holy Field to to

800
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: the next year, to the next opportunity. UM. So there's

801
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: no shorge of things. I definitely learned a lot from

802
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: this deer, this deer and this hunt over the past

803
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: two even three years if you count the first year

804
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: when I was passing him, um man, a wealth of information.

805
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: It pushed me to try to understand things to a

806
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: level of detail that I never had before. Um. And

807
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: I can look at so many little things that I

808
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: did this year, both good and bad, that I think

809
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: just just thinking through these things is making me a

810
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: better hunter. So so let me let me tell, let

811
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: me do this. I went through and try to look

812
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: at all the hunts that I made throughout the season

813
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: on this property, and I'm able to pick out all

814
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: these little, tiny things now that I think I could

815
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: have done better than in the past. There would have

816
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: been like dozens of things I did wrong, probably, but

817
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: every year I've been taking a little bit paying a

818
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: little more attention to detail, fixing up, you know, two

819
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: of four issues this year, and then one more out

820
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: of the four issues the next year. And now I'm

821
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: getting to the point where now it's these little things. Um.

822
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: But I can look back and say, well, I sure,

823
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: I'm glad that that thing I learned last year, I

824
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: did act on it, and man, look at the result.

825
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: I almost killed holy Field in that spot because I thought,

826
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: from what I saw last year, I should have a

827
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: stand here or different things on those lines. Um. So

828
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: one thing that I learned from last year that one

829
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: of the big things that last year I said, or

830
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: even this, you know this past spring and winter when

831
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: we were talking about one are the things that I'm

832
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: going to do differently in two thousand and seventeen. One

833
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: of the big mistakes I thought I made in two

834
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen was that I got the confirmation of holy

835
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: Field was alive in two thousand and sixteen, and I

836
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: was gonna wait to try to hunt him sparingly in

837
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: October except for cold fronts um, because I thought I

838
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: had a good set set up. But then I hunted

839
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 1: that first day and then I was like the next

840
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: day looked pretty since so I hunt it again, and

841
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: then like six days later we had another coal front coming.

842
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm gonna hunt this cold front

843
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: now and I take advantage. So I hunted that day

844
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: and the next day I didn't see him, and I

845
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna stay out. And then seven days

846
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: later we had another little front come through and I

847
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: got a picture of him on the other side of

848
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: the propertis that, well, maybe I need to hunt now.

849
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: So I tried. So I kept him, having all these

850
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: little reasons that maybe now is the time of strike.

851
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: Now was the time of strike. Now was the time

852
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: of strike. And it resulted me over hunting a portion

853
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: of this property. Um a lot. I hunted a bunch

854
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: more than I thought I should have, probably, and maybe

855
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: that impacted my ability to kill him. In two thousand

856
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: and sixteen, before gun season, um I did see him

857
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: a bunch, but it couldn't get him within range except

858
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: for one night I had him at forty yards, but

859
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: it was a little too dark. You guys know that story. Um.

860
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: So in two thousand seventeen, my plan was to hunt

861
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,479
Speaker 1: the first night and then unless there's just some very

862
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: very very obvious, glaring need to get in there and

863
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: hunt him like I saw him in daylight at this spot.

864
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go in there at all until

865
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: the annual pattern I identified dictates that he should start

866
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: moving daylight again. So, just to recap very briefly, in

867
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen, the first daylight setting ahead of him

868
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: was on October. In two thousands sixteen, the first daylight

869
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: setting ahead of him was October. Both of those were

870
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: from the same stand in the same food plot, and

871
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: I had a shot opportunity to him on both of

872
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: those occasions. So my thought process was in two seventeen,

873
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hunt him until October, assuming conditions are right. UM.

874
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: And that's what I did. So I'm proud of myself

875
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: and the fact that I stayed out and maintained patients.

876
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: I didn't go into this proper at all except for

877
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: the opening night for three weeks UM. So I think

878
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: that was probably a good thing because he wasn't moving daylight.

879
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting daylight trial camera pictures of him anywhere, UM,

880
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: no long distance scouting observations. So I stayed out. I

881
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: was good. Now here's a mistake I made. October comes along.

882
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: This is the pre pre prescribed date when I'm supposed

883
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: to start hunting him. I've been looking forward to this

884
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: day all season. I was like, all right, this is

885
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: when you should start moving. I gotta get out there.

886
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: I was so excited for the for weeks I was

887
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: looking forward to this, saying, all right, that's the day.

888
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: That's the day, that's the day. And then I saw

889
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: this cold front coming up that was going to coincide

890
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: with that. I thought, all right, this is gonna be it.

891
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill him. October shows up. The cold front

892
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: was hitting, but not what I wanted. The wind was

893
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: way higher than I thought it was going to be.

894
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: It looked like it was gonna be you know, mile

895
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: on our winds um higher than you're typically gonna see

896
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: a lot of deer activity in this area with those

897
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: kinds of conditions. But I was so kind of set

898
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: in my mind that I gotta be hunting in this day,

899
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: like I've been just dying to get out and hunt.

900
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to do it so badly that I convinced myself.

901
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: I kept looking at the weather. Looking at the weather,

902
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, maybe it's gonna die down below twenty

903
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: and if it's in like the teens, it'll be okay.

904
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: So I decided to go for it because I thought

905
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: the wind was going to die down. I didn't think

906
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: it'd be quite so bad the cold temperatures. I convinced

907
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: myself of this basically just because like in my gut,

908
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: I just wanted to go. I was just so excited

909
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: to go. Convinced myself to go out there. I got

910
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: into my tree and it was way worse than even

911
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: the forecast was was calling for. It was like thirty

912
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: winds and then the winds were swirling and it was

913
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: just insane. And instantly got into the tree and I'm like,

914
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: this is a disaster. I should have never come out here.

915
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: So that was a mistake I made because I was

916
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 1: just over anxious. I was so set in my plan

917
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: that I had made. Um I've been patient for so long.

918
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: But then because I had put this date on the calendar,

919
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to look at it through clear eyes

920
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: and say, no, it's not worth pushing it. What's what's

921
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: waiting one more day? You can wait one more day.

922
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: But I didn't. I went in there, and who knows,

923
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: maybe he was in that area where the wind was

924
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: swirling he winded me. And the first time I went

925
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 1: in in three and a half weeks, and that screwed

926
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: up the next seven to ten days. I don't know,

927
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: but that's possible. So there's a there's a mistake I made.

928
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: Now on the bright side, something I did right was

929
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: that I got in that tree. I realized this is

930
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: a disaster. This is even worse than I thought I

931
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: was gonna be, and I made the tough decision to

932
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: pull the plug. So immediately, within like five minutes, I

933
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: tore everything down and snuck right back out. Um So

934
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: I didn't make the problem worse. Um So there was

935
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: a mistake there, But then there was a tiny positive

936
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: decision to nor The next day, similar kind of scenario

937
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: pops up. Now it's October. The year before, I had

938
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: a shot at Holy Field at forty yards. I didn't

939
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: take it. Um. Then, now this cold front has hit,

940
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: the wind speeds have died down. This is gonna be

941
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: the night. This is gonna be a great night. Um

942
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: Now I'm finally gonna get that chance at him. But

943
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: with the wind direction we had, it was a little bit.

944
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: It was it was straight west, if I remember right,

945
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: And to hunt the spot where I had gotten these

946
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: shots at Holy Field the past. I really want a

947
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: northwest to know a wind. Um, So I've got This

948
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: is a food little food plot system We've talked about

949
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: a lot in the past. There's a box blind on

950
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: the south side of it, and then there's a tree

951
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: stand kind of in the middle of the food plot complex.

952
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, even though to do west wind, I

953
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: can hunt the box blind with that, do west wind

954
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: and be okay. So I go and hunt the box blind.

955
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: And as I told the story earlier this year, I

956
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: got into the blind, opened the door and it was

957
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: loaded with bees, and so I got sworn by bees

958
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 1: and I ran down out of the blind, and I realized, well,

959
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: what the heck am I going to do? I can't

960
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: hunt the box blind now. UM. So what I ended

961
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: up doing. I was so convinced that I had to

962
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: be hunting, and I was so excited to finally be

963
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: hunting that I made another potential mistake. I went and

964
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: I said, well, I gotta hunt this food plot complex

965
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: because this is the spot to be UM. So I

966
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: hunted that tree stand that was in the middle of

967
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: the of the system there, and even though I had

968
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: to do west wind, which cuts into a portion of

969
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: the cover, and I said, screw it. I gotta swing

970
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: for the fences. I've been waiting three and a half weeks.

971
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: All the other conditions are right, this is the right place,

972
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: this is the right time, based on annual patterns of

973
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: the right conditions. Um, sometimes you gotta take a risk.

974
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: So I went in there and hunted it because my

975
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: first option in the blind didn't work. And I sat

976
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: in there with my wind blowing into a substantial section

977
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: of cover that holy Field might have been coming from.

978
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't It wasn't the worst. Like if you imagine

979
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty degrees, Like if you're looking at

980
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: a pie and you put a line going from twelve

981
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: to six right down the middle of that pie. On

982
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: the left side of the pie is the food plot

983
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: system and cover in a little finger of timber. On

984
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: the right side of the pie is this big stretch

985
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: of cover where holy Field, I assumed where he was betting.

986
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: Most of the time. I was blowing my wind into

987
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: about a third of it. So a third of that

988
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: pine now was screwed. Um, So I was just hoping, well,

989
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: hopefully it wasn't. In the bottom third hopefully he's in

990
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: the top two thirds. Um. Usually I'd like to try

991
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: to not blow into that at all, or just blow

992
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: into the bottom eighth of it. This time I didn't.

993
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: And maybe that was a mistake. Maybe he was in

994
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: there and he winded me. And again, maybe that was

995
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: the time I screwed things up. Um. I don't know. Uh,

996
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: that was a that was a bad decision. Possibly. On

997
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: the other hand, if he came from the northwest section

998
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: there and I was sitting there and I swung for

999
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: the fences, it might have worked out. But you just

1000
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: never know. I mean you can. I could do this

1001
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: all day, right, I could second guess all my decisions,

1002
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. I

1003
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: don't know how much is too much. I don't know

1004
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: how much is healthy. Um. But that was another example

1005
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: of like a small thing I observed that maybe I

1006
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: screwed up. Um. Do you think you over analyze? Oh

1007
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: my god, check yeah. But I mean listen to me.

1008
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: I've just gone through this and I'm picking apart every

1009
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: little thing. I think that there's I think who knows, right,

1010
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: this is me saying this, and I could be completely nuts.

1011
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: I think there's value in the process. So I think

1012
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: there's value in analyzing these things afterwards to at least

1013
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: think about them, to like, look at, Okay, why did

1014
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: I make this decision? What were the things that you

1015
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: know we're influencing making me making that decision, um, And

1016
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: then just like reflecting on that, and I think that

1017
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: will help me make better decisions in the future. I

1018
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: do think there's value there, um. But at the same time,

1019
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: I do know that during the season I over analyzed

1020
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: some things to a point where, um, there can be

1021
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: paralysis by analysis or I'll get overwhelmed by trying to

1022
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: make the right decisions. I put a lot of pressure

1023
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: on myself to make the right decisions. UM. So that's

1024
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: been a big takeaway from me out of the two

1025
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen season is again just to like the pressure

1026
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: I put on myself and the stress that I let

1027
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: myself get from some of these things because I'm so um,

1028
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: I am. I am obsessive, Like I am admittedly obsessive

1029
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: when it comes to goals and achievements and tasks, Like

1030
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: I can get really really serious about things, um. And

1031
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: that can be a good thing to a degree because

1032
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: it has allowed me to achieve my goals in many

1033
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: cases and allows me to do things that I have

1034
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: wanted to do, but sometimes it definitely leads to um,

1035
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: it leads to challenges to right well, I think now

1036
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: we'll make for a good time to take a quick break.

1037
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: Here for word from our partners at White Tailed Properties.

1038
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: This week with white Tail Properties, we are joined by

1039
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: Tony Hansen, a land specialist out of Michigan, and Tony

1040
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: is gonna be telling us about how hunting strategy changes

1041
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: in pressured states like Michigan. I'd say the biggest difference

1042
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: is that just the availability the number of older deer

1043
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: is much much lower, so you don't have, you know,

1044
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of them to pick from, So you've got

1045
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: to be pretty cure that you do have to hunt.

1046
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: And you know, for me, it's it's all about trying

1047
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: to manage the girl that I've got so that I

1048
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: do have that age structure because it's it's probably not

1049
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: going to be there on the neighbors. If you'd like

1050
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: to learn more and to see the properties that Tony

1051
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: currently has listed for sale, visit Whitetail properties dot com.

1052
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: Backslash Hanson that's H A N S E N. You

1053
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: know along that same kind of thought process. This year,

1054
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: I did something a little bit different. And yeah, I

1055
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: looked at maps at when I was at home or

1056
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, before the hunt, but I didn't make a

1057
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: decision on what stand I was going to hunt until

1058
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: I pulled onto the farm because I felt like I

1059
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: was doing the same thing that you were, and that

1060
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: was over analyzing and having some kind of you're wasting

1061
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: time at that point, You're you're not functioning at your

1062
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: most efficient. And I think that what that time constraint

1063
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: does is now you're on the farm and it's time

1064
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: to make a decision or you're gonna get to your

1065
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: stand late. So I think that helped me choose the

1066
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: right stands, you know, and and put myself into a

1067
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: position where I know this stands good. I know this

1068
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: area is good because the wind direction, the terrain, all

1069
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: that stuff. I have either pictures or they're signed there.

1070
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: I just need to go do it. Yeah, I think

1071
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: that there's something to that. Um. I don't know if

1072
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: you have this struggle at all, But for me, one

1073
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: thing I've noticed that I do this kind of applies

1074
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: to life in general too. But when I make a decision,

1075
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: so in this case, like choosing a stand site. So

1076
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: I'll be looking at the weather, you know, all the all.

1077
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: Let's say I'm trying to choose where I want to

1078
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: hunt the next morning. We'll say, um, the night before,

1079
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the weather over and over again, checking that,

1080
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: thinking through what I want to do, and I try

1081
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: to make a decision usually the night before, so based

1082
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: on the weather, based on the wind direction, all the

1083
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: things I know, or I think I know. I said, Okay,

1084
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: I think tomorrow and hunt this stand the next day.

1085
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: I have a really hard time taking in any new

1086
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: information to change that decision. So if I arrive at

1087
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: the property and then all of a sudden, I'm walking

1088
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: out to the property and all of a sudden the

1089
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: wind isn't exactly what the forecast said it was, but

1090
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: my mind was already made up on I'm going to

1091
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: stand X, I have a really hard time not wanting

1092
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: to stick to that decision. Like if if I've decided

1093
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: to hunt stand X, it's hard for me to adjust

1094
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: at the last minute and switch it up, Like I'm

1095
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: already so convinced of that that I'm like, uh, I

1096
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: gotta stick with that. And sometimes maybe that's a mistake. Too.

1097
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: So there's something to be said about waiting to make

1098
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: some of those decisions until you have the very most

1099
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: recent information, and then you kind of allow your gut

1100
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: to make the decision a little bit more to UM

1101
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: versus getting so UM wound up in the details of

1102
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: all the other factors. UM. That's something that I don't

1103
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: know if that's an issue I've had in the past.

1104
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: I think I've done a pretty good job over the

1105
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: years of getting better and better at choosing the right

1106
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: places to be UM. And I think for the most case, UM,

1107
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: I've seen the results of that. But I definitely have

1108
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: a tendency to second guest myself. There's no doubt about

1109
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: that too. I did a lot less of that. I

1110
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: think that's one maybe maybe that could even be a

1111
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: takeaway from this season is I did a lot less

1112
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: second guessing myself. You know, if I if I felt

1113
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: an area was maybe burn getting burnt out. UM, that's

1114
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: actually what led me to go into this new piece

1115
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: of property and on night one and harvest the buck

1116
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: that I harvested this year. Because everything that I wanted

1117
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: to you know that I said this is good location

1118
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: to be, it wasn't there at that particular time. So

1119
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: I decided to go to a completely different area and

1120
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: that worked. So I feel that maybe as a positive

1121
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: for me, I did a lot less second guessing myself

1122
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: this year. That's a I think it's a good sign, right,

1123
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: That's a sign of confidence, if nothing else. And I man,

1124
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: confidence I think is so important, um, when it comes

1125
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: to just your mindset out there in the woods. If

1126
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: you have confidence in something, I think you're just in

1127
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: a better position as far as being there mentally. And

1128
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: if you're not there mentally, you make mistakes like missing

1129
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: a deer walking by you twenty yards. Um, So that's

1130
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: I think that's clutch. I think that's huge. So speaking

1131
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: of your shift to a new property, that is one

1132
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: of the things that I am happy that I did. Um,

1133
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: not switching to a new property, but I think I

1134
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: did a better job this year of switching things up finally,

1135
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: like I did switch things up off my original game plan,

1136
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: um mid run. So I came into you know, as

1137
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: we talked earlier that oct October two, I thought I

1138
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: was going to kill him between and the thirty one,

1139
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: I thought that last week in October was when I

1140
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 1: was going to happen. And I had this whole game

1141
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: plan like these properties food. They're sort of the stands

1142
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: I had up by these food sources that I thought

1143
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 1: I could kill him on. And that just didn't happen.

1144
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't seeing him anywhere. It wasn't getting daily pictures

1145
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: of him anywhere. Um. But I in the past years,

1146
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: I had always thought I had to hunt near the

1147
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: front of this property because this betting area where I

1148
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: had always seen him in the past was up there. Well,

1149
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: when things weren't going right, I decided to switch things

1150
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: up and try a different part of the property that

1151
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: I in the past never hunted for him because I

1152
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: never got pictures of him down there. I never saw

1153
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: him it all down there. Um But I switched it up,

1154
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: and I said, all right, I'm just gonna start doing

1155
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: crazy things I've never done before because what I have

1156
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 1: been trying isn't working. And when I started doing those

1157
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: different things, then I started seeing him. I started I

1158
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: started doing a bunch of different running gun sets. I

1159
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: hunted a new stand almost every day, so I wasn't

1160
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: hunting the same stands over and over. I was bouncing

1161
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: from place to place to place. Um And that at

1162
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: least gave me, got me to the wheelhouse with him.

1163
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: I did see him. I had the shot opportunity of

1164
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: one day. The next day, you know, three or four

1165
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: days later, I had him within range, but there was

1166
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: covering the way. Um So that was a positive that

1167
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: I was proud of myself for doing, which was something

1168
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's always tough to do when you have

1169
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of pre hung sets. It's really easy to

1170
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: want to just hunt hunt those pre hung sets. Um

1171
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: But I told myself that, no, you're not going to

1172
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: make excuses. You're not gonna take the easy way. So

1173
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: I was getting up way away before daylight, HI, getting

1174
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: these places and hanging and stand in the dark, like

1175
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: three thirty or four in the morning, so I could

1176
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: be hunting a new set in a new spot. And

1177
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: that was a pain in the butt and didn't end up.

1178
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: I didn't end up killing him with that, But I

1179
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: do think that was a good thing. I think being

1180
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: willing to switch. And then we talked about that a

1181
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: lot in the past. Um So that was a positive.

1182
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: I want to elaborate on that a second. I had

1183
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: this thought go through my brain. Oh man, probably the

1184
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: like the first two days, I I decided to hunt.

1185
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: You know, I started hunting this year, and that was

1186
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: do I do I get a benefit from hanging my

1187
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: stands so early and not doing running guns on these farms.

1188
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: I think there's a small benefit, but I almost I

1189
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: had this thought where where I said, you know, is

1190
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: are these pre hung stands similar to what you said

1191
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: subconsciously influencing me that I need to be in one

1192
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: of those and not making a macro adjustment at the

1193
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: moment that I need to be making a decision right

1194
01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: because the wind could you know, the weather chain says

1195
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: north wind, but you get into your spot and it

1196
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: could be north northeast or north northwest and it's just

1197
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: a little bit different and that may influence you to

1198
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: set up on you know, five yards different tier, five

1199
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: yards difference there, and cause you're you know, you're sent

1200
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: downstream to do something completely completely different. So I was

1201
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, Man, should I should I be prepping

1202
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: like and hanging some of these early season stands that

1203
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: kind of I don't I don't know what what how

1204
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: how to say it, but I think it's somehow influencing

1205
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: me to be satisfied with less than perfect stand location. Yeah,

1206
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: they're kind of a crutch. Like you said, if if

1207
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: you know you want to be in a certain area

1208
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: and you already have a stand there, you're gonna nine

1209
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: times that tend you're gonna hunt that stand because you

1210
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: already have it there, even if, like you said, really

1211
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: it might be better to be ten yards further over.

1212
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: If you had to hang a news stand, you put

1213
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: it in the perfect place. But since there's already one

1214
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: there might as well just sitting that one. Now, agree

1215
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 1: that you're saying. On the flip side, though, which which

1216
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: one of these things is more important? Is what you

1217
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: just said more important? Being in the right spot, the

1218
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: exact right spot? Is that most important? Or is it

1219
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: more important to be able to sneak into a spot

1220
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: and very quietly go right up in the tree without

1221
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: making an impact and be hunting right away versus the

1222
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: potential of cutting down limbs or banging your tree stand

1223
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: against metal step or something like that. So like the

1224
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: chance of spooking deer while setting up that tree stand,

1225
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: So which is which is more beneficial? I don't know,

1226
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: that's a tough question, man. Yeah, you know how many

1227
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: times have you had a deer five yards out of

1228
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: range that you wanted to shoot, you know what I mean,

1229
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: Just like it plays, it can. It's one of those

1230
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: things where it can it can really screw up your

1231
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: thought process if you make a decision and that decision

1232
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: is wrong, as opposed to making a decision in that

1233
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: and then that decision is right. You know. Yeah. I

1234
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: think I think we've mentioned like this that fooled by

1235
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: randomness concept where something happens once and then you take

1236
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: that to be like an indicator of a rule sort of.

1237
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,919
Speaker 1: So if this one thing happened this one time, you think, Okay,

1238
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: that's the way things are. But it could have just

1239
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: been a random thing to happen. And that's that's, you know,

1240
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: a risk of what we're doing right here really to

1241
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: to a degree, especially what I do when I hyper

1242
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: analyze things. Um, sometimes ship just happens. Yeah, Sometimes there's

1243
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: things that are just out of your control, or bad

1244
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: luck happens or um, things don't go your way and

1245
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: you can't control. We can't control a whole heck of

1246
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: a lot when it comes to deer hunting. Um. So

1247
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: I think one of the big lessons I can take

1248
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: from that this year is to give myself for that,

1249
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: like to be okay with that to know that there's

1250
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff I can't control. Mistakes are going

1251
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: to happen. You're not gonna get it all right, and

1252
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: that's okay. Like I'm really hard on myself, um, like

1253
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: I would, I really like as I think maybe if

1254
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: you listen to me as I'm talking through all this,

1255
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: I can be really nitpicky about this thing or that thing,

1256
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: and I do that to myself in my head like

1257
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: all day, um when I'm thinking about you know, the

1258
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: hunting season really anything but um, but I think this

1259
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: season helped me. Or I'm trying to look at this

1260
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: season and use it as a lesson to say, you

1261
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: know what, there's only so much you can do. It's

1262
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: good to pay attention to the details. It's good to

1263
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,479
Speaker 1: try to keep improving. Um. I'm gonna keep on trying

1264
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: to do that. But sometimes you also need to understand

1265
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: that you can't control at all and you need to

1266
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: learn to um, accept that, embrace it, um and and

1267
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: not beat yourself up too much as well. Oh man,

1268
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: I wish I could agree with you there. I think

1269
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: I think I think you can control a majority of

1270
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: it if you learn from your mistakes. Right now, the

1271
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: rut brings a whole different kind of randomness to that.

1272
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: But I feel that you can do a if given

1273
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:26,759
Speaker 1: multiple opportunities, you can control a scenario so well that

1274
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: you that you can win, like your your percentage of

1275
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: winning goes up, I mean, on a on a completely

1276
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: different scale than what we're used to. Take a look

1277
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: at the druries right in the Lakaskis. They set up

1278
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: their farms to put themselves in a in a scenario

1279
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 1: where they have the highest percentage of winning, right, And

1280
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: I think that if given certain circumstances, you can control

1281
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: that way more than what you think. I think it's

1282
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: it's a relative thing, right, So I'm not arguing that

1283
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 1: you can't control more. You can always control more. And

1284
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's a huge portion of like my whole

1285
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: mindset when it comes to deer hunting is controlling as

1286
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: many different little tiny variables as you possibly can agree

1287
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: with that, And so yeah, the juries, the Lakowsky's, they

1288
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: to a tremendous degree control a ton of variables and

1289
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: that's a huge part of what does make them successful.

1290
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: I agree. Um, I'm just saying you can't control everything.

1291
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: And Mark Jury still has things happen that he doesn't

1292
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: want to have happened. Yes, he kills lots of big deer,

1293
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: but there are still mistakes that get made, or there

1294
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: are still things that happen that piss him off and

1295
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 1: the hunt gets screwed up a deer does the wrong thing,

1296
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: or coyote runs in, or his blind falls over, or

1297
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: a step falls out of the tree. Like things happen. Um.

1298
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: So I'm simply saying, do as much as you possibly can,

1299
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 1: push yourself more and more every single year, to learn more,

1300
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: to improve more, to pay attention to the details. But

1301
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: when something does go wrong, and this is maybe this

1302
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: is just for me, because this is something I just

1303
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: have I struggle with. I'm just saying, when something goes wrong,

1304
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: identify it, learned from it. But then don't beat yourself up, Like,

1305
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: don't hate yourself because that thing went wrong for me,

1306
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 1: I need to be able to identify it, learn from it,

1307
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: and be okay moving forward from that, and not identify it,

1308
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: learn from it and then be pissed at yourself because

1309
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: this thing went wrong and you're such a shitty deer

1310
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: hunter because of it, Mark, and your season got ruined

1311
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: because of this Mark, and you're never gonna kill holy

1312
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: Field blah blah bla blah blah blah blah. Yes, So

1313
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: so this has been my Um, this has been me

1314
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: just having to work on that that portion of it. Yeah, um,

1315
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: because and we talked about this a lot too. But

1316
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: as much as killing a deer is what we strive

1317
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: to do and we have our goals, and I think

1318
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: it's great to have goals, and it's great to work

1319
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: towards difficult things. And that's a big part of why

1320
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: I love deer hunting and hunting mature bucks. But you're all,

1321
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: we're also doing this because it's fun, right, We're trying

1322
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: to have a good time. We're we're trying to do

1323
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: all those things and if if and then every single

1324
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 1: year I say the same thing. So if you've been

1325
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: following the word Time podcast, you realize that I'm maybe

1326
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 1: not doing a good job of learning this because every

1327
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: year I have the same UM challenge is that I

1328
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: need to continue to get better at like being happy

1329
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:38,520
Speaker 1: in the moment and like not overstressing about these things. Um.

1330
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: And so that's something that I think I'll probably just

1331
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: continue to be working on my whole life, because like,

1332
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: maybe maybe a good thing about me is that I

1333
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: take things really seriously and I work really really hard

1334
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: and I want to achieve big things, um, but sometimes

1335
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: that can be a detriment to UM. So that's that's

1336
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: a constant balancing act that I'm trying to get better

1337
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: at every year, right. And it just sucks because guys

1338
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: like me and you are in a position of trying

1339
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: to explain things right to people the listener, right when

1340
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: there are certain things that you just can't explain, Like

1341
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wish I could sit here and

1342
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: tell you that, you know, I have these certain goals

1343
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: and I have you know that all these listeners, you know,

1344
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: the listeners out there need to do this and need

1345
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: to do that. But at the end of the day,

1346
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: I think the most important thing is to just do

1347
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: you do what you want to do and and not

1348
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: worry about what others are thinking. Not worry about you know,

1349
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, I have this, I have this thing

1350
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 1: that kind of pisces me off about people who and

1351
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a hypocrite at this point too, because

1352
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: I provide content suggestions and strategy advice, you know, but

1353
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: everybody has a different scenario, right, and every like so

1354
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: I take that much advice from a guy who hunts

1355
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: large pieces of highly managed property, you know, or food

1356
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 1: plot advice, because it's just not relatable to me. And

1357
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people try to put themselves

1358
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: into a scenario where they're chasing seven year old you know,

1359
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 1: Boot and Crockett deer when they're hunting public land in Michigan.

1360
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, oh yeah. You gotta

1361
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: be able to look at your reality and separate that

1362
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: from what else you're seeing there from other people. For sure,

1363
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: it's easy to fall into that trap though, you know,

1364
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean even and to your point, I preach it

1365
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 1: all the time. I preached this, I mean, we do.

1366
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: We talked about this in the podcast all the time

1367
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: about how you need to look at your own stuff

1368
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: of circumstances base your own goals and tactics based on

1369
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,839
Speaker 1: those unique situations and circumstances. But I still find myself

1370
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: looking at people in other circumstances and being like, how

1371
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: come I can't do that? Like, in moments and moments

1372
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: of weakness, I find myself like piste off or jealous

1373
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: when I see someone else having some great success to something,

1374
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, gosh, dang, it like I wish it was that,

1375
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: Like for me, how can I and you can't do that.

1376
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: You can't, you can't let that happen. But it is

1377
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: human nature. Um, it's definitely human nature. But I don't

1378
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: know so much of I feel like so much of

1379
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: what we Maybe this is one of the reasons why

1380
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: deer hunting at the to the degree that we take

1381
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: it seriously, UM, why it's so compelling is that it's

1382
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: if you think about the things we're thinking about, it's

1383
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: an interesting reflection of a lot of just basic life

1384
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 1: challenges in that I think we're talking about some things here,

1385
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 1: like setting expectations, dealing with adversity, paying attention to other people,

1386
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: comparing yourself to other people, learning from mistakes, um, getting

1387
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: back up off the ground when bad things happen. Um.

1388
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: These are all these things that we are talking about

1389
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 1: in the context of deer hunting, but they're actually just

1390
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: bigger life lessons that could apply to everything from your job,

1391
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 1: to school to relationships. Um. And maybe this is like

1392
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: a way that idiots like you and me can learn

1393
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: stuff about life because of our obsession with deer hunting. UM.

1394
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: And maybe that's part of why we love this thing

1395
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: and taking it as seriously as we do because it's, uh,

1396
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: there's other things going on here than just trying to

1397
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: fill the freezer. Of course, that's that's the core of

1398
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do, but there's there's bigger picture

1399
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 1: of things to learn from these experiences too, right, absolutely, man, absolutely?

1400
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: Can I can I tell you about another huge area

1401
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: of disappointment has been for me this year. Please don't

1402
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: say co host. Please don't say co host. Please don't

1403
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: say co host. No. Um. And this is another thing

1404
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: that we talked about a lot, but I think I've

1405
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: I've I've not done a good enough job with it,

1406
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: and that is with having different places to go. So

1407
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: a big mistake for me this year, and this kind

1408
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 1: of revolves all around what we were talking about earlier,

1409
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: is that I put all my eggs in the basket

1410
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: of holy Field. So I was so focused on that

1411
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 1: that I didn't take advantage of the other places I

1412
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: had to hunt. But then I also didn't have as

1413
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: many other good places to hunt as I should have too.

1414
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: So for example, from October one through October, I didn't

1415
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 1: want to hunt my best spot where holy Field was

1416
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: because of the things we talked about already. But I

1417
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: also didn't want to leave the area because I wanted

1418
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: to be close enough that if I did get a

1419
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 1: daylight picture of holy Field or something like that, I

1420
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 1: wanted to still be a hunt him. So I didn't

1421
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: go to North Dakota like I was gonna do. I

1422
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: didn't go to Ohio at all like I could have done.

1423
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: And because I didn't do a good job this year

1424
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: on trying to find new spots in the general area,

1425
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: I didn't have any other high quality local spots to hunt,

1426
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: so I I kind of wasted three weeks in my

1427
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: hunting season. Um. I went and I spent three or

1428
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: four days up North Um, which is fun, but it

1429
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: really wasn't, you know, going to pan out as far

1430
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: as killing the sure buck. I had done some scouting

1431
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: in public land this summer, so I thought I'm gonna

1432
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 1: hunt a bunch public lands during that time period. But

1433
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: I didn't do a good enough job scouting that public

1434
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: I should have scouted more. I should have found more

1435
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,759
Speaker 1: spots on the public um because I hunted three times

1436
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 1: in public but that didn't pan out at all. I

1437
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: didn't spend so either either. I should have scouted more

1438
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: or should have spent more time trying to hunt it

1439
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: during that three week period to be able to just

1440
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 1: and make something happen. But I didn't do that. Um

1441
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: I got permission on a spot this summer, and then

1442
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 1: I got lazy and busy and I never followed up

1443
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: with him again because he wanted me to come back

1444
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: and talk to him about details and some other stuff,

1445
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: and just because of how busy things were, and I

1446
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: thought I'll just focus on these other things, I never

1447
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 1: went and tried to take advantage of that. That was

1448
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: another mistake. Um There's another piece of property I have

1449
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: locally that I had permission on in past years, but

1450
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: I fell out of touch with him, and because I

1451
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: fell out of touch with them, I felt bad about

1452
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: trying to call him up and say, oh hey, I

1453
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: just want to hunt your property again, so that I

1454
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: never followed up in the end this year. UM I

1455
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 1: should have been dealing with this over the past couple

1456
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: of years, and instead now I don't have permission on

1457
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: this place anymore. Um So. And and then again, on

1458
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: top of all those things, I should have been knocking

1459
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: on more doors this year locally to try to get

1460
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: more quality places. The point of all that being is

1461
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: that I put too much into this one property. I

1462
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: let other opportunities slip by. I didn't work hard enough

1463
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: to find more places locally, So I've either lost out

1464
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: in places or I didn't have other options when I

1465
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 1: should have been taking advantage of that time period. Through

1466
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 1: time period, I could have been doing a bunch more hunting,

1467
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I hunted some subpar places just to

1468
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: kind of pass the time until what I thought would

1469
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: be prime time. Um, that was probably a mistake. I'm

1470
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: missed out on some opportunities. So I think coming to

1471
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: this next year, especially now that I'm gonna be putting

1472
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: more time into Michigan, probably in the past because I

1473
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: have this whole family thing going on that's going to

1474
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: maybe change my travel schedule a little bit. Um, I

1475
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: really need to find a bunch of good spots. I

1476
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: can't just I can't just have a little, one little

1477
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: good property in Michigan. Like the best deer hunters I

1478
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: know that kill mature bucks consistently in Michigan have a

1479
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,799
Speaker 1: bunch of good places. I have a couple of decent

1480
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: I've got one good spot and then a handful of

1481
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: decent or Okay, spots. Um, and I've every year I'm like, oh,

1482
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: well that's okay. I need a bunch of good spots

1483
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: if I want to consistently kill mature bucks and not

1484
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: just get lucky every couple of years. Um. If I

1485
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: want to be one of those people, it's going to

1486
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: be doing that every year. I think I need to

1487
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: have a lot more places. Because if you don't own

1488
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: a couple, if you don't own a big place that

1489
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: you can control, if you're in a situation like I am,

1490
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: where I'm hunting twenty maker little pieces and little pieces

1491
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: and the nine piece and there's people everywhere, it's really

1492
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: hard to get it done year in and year out,

1493
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: counting on one little spot to produce over and over. Um.

1494
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 1: So this year, hopefully I can practice what I preach

1495
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 1: better than I have and do an even better job

1496
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: this year finding us some new places. UM. And that

1497
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: applies in Ohio too. I think my Ohio spots fizzling out.

1498
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 1: Um this year, I gotta find some new stuff there. Um.

1499
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: I need I need to rethink a lot of these

1500
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: different things. I think I got a little comfortable. Over

1501
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: the past maybe five years, things have been going well.

1502
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: I've killed a couple of bucks every year. The last

1503
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: like five years or so, I was getting comfortable with

1504
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: that um, and I maybe maybe let things slip. I

1505
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 1: didn't push things as far as maybe I should have

1506
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: as far as finding new areas, keeping other options open um,

1507
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: and I think that maybe bit me in the butt

1508
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,440
Speaker 1: a little bit this year. So that's that's another opportunity

1509
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: area I think I've I've identified for all. Right, But

1510
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,560
Speaker 1: now we're gonna take our final break of the day

1511
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: to thank our partners at Matthew's Archery. And as we've

1512
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 1: been discussing over the past few weeks, Matthews has launched

1513
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: their new boat for two thousand eighteen, the Matthews Try Acts,

1514
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: And today we've got Lelakowski of The Crush TV to

1515
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: talk about the difference he's seen with the Try Acts

1516
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: and how it stands out above other boats he's used.

1517
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: And it really it really hit home. You a lot

1518
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: of times you need to pick up a bow for

1519
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: the first time and you shoot it, it's like, yeah,

1520
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: it feels good, it feels quiet, and you know, vibration

1521
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 1: free and everything, and it's but it's really kind of

1522
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: hard to tell because you don't compare it to other ones.

1523
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 1: But when I got the try Acts, it was you know,

1524
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: in the summer, and it didn't even have a name

1525
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 1: for it yet. It didn't have any limbo graphics or anything.

1526
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: It was just a boat. So I shot it, you know,

1527
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: a bunch of summer, just getting used to it. And

1528
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: so right before we were going out to out West

1529
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: to start our hunts, I said, well, I better grab

1530
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,600
Speaker 1: you know, my my hand on thirty two for my

1531
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: backup boat, and I just said one shot with it.

1532
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: And I just was like, oh my gosh, what a difference.

1533
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean, just like the vibration in your hand and stuff.

1534
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: And I was like, for how smooth and quiet that

1535
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 1: Haleen thirty two was, you know for me over the years,

1536
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 1: and I mean it was the I think last year

1537
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 1: and all the comparison tests and everything, it was the

1538
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 1: quietest and most libration for you have of any bow

1539
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 1: on the market. I just couldn't believe how much different

1540
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: the tracks was, even to the Halons. I was like, man,

1541
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: that's really where I saw the difference. And so I've

1542
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: just been super impressed with it. If you would like

1543
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 1: to learn more about the Matthews tracks, you can visit

1544
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 1: Matthews Inc. Dot Com. Yeah, man, it's always always like

1545
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm always looking for new properties and that's just I

1546
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: guess that's just a part of me. That number one.

1547
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: I like doing it, um And you know, I get

1548
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: told no a lot, but I get told no a

1549
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 1: lot outside of funding too, so UM, I'm used to it.

1550
01:22:55,720 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: But always looking for good ground is you know, it's

1551
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: just I mean, I don't know, I just like to

1552
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 1: hunt different places to um. Another thing that I want

1553
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:13,560
Speaker 1: to do kind of in regards to hunting new locations,

1554
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: and that is and I don't necessarily have a lot

1555
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: to say on it right now, but the first thing

1556
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: is I want to learn about crops and how they're

1557
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: influencing the deer movement before the crops come out, because

1558
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: I have a couple I had a couple of trail

1559
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: cameras um on some crop field field edges this year

1560
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: that showed a lot of promise. And I gotta learn

1561
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: how to hunt those areas and when to hunt them

1562
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: and just just put a little bit more focus on

1563
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: them on the early season because some of I think

1564
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 1: I maybe you know, that makes me hop into some

1565
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 1: of my rut locations too early. If that makes sense, um,

1566
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: So before the crops come out, I really want to

1567
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: take a look at some of those areas. You know,

1568
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: some of these places that once the crops come out,

1569
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: they go into the timber, but while the crops are in,

1570
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,879
Speaker 1: they're living in buffer strips. They're living in these fields

1571
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: or these very small, thin little sections of timber that

1572
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: border or split up some of these big crop fields.

1573
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 1: And then I also want to learn what the deer

1574
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 1: are doing that third week of November, maybe leading up

1575
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:37,480
Speaker 1: to maybe not even uh maybe not even this November,

1576
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,759
Speaker 1: but that first week of December where the the rut

1577
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: is in a kind of a trickling off mode, but

1578
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: the big bucks are still on their feet. I want

1579
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: to learn what the deer are doing and how to

1580
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 1: hunt during that because I think I'm missing out on

1581
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: some of my farms when it comes to like mature

1582
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: buck movement on those two those two periods of time.

1583
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 1: So I agree with you a d. When it comes

1584
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: to that, like that third week in November, that kind

1585
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 1: of time period, I feel like I have done the

1586
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: same thing. Um. That's It's it's tough in Michigan because

1587
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: our gun season opens and that whole third and fourth

1588
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: week and I've ever kind of gets blown out by

1589
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 1: gun season, but I've always felt like I'm missing out

1590
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: on that opportunity in states like Iowa, Ohio where they

1591
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: don't have that gun season. UM. My challenge has always

1592
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: been that that time period I think can definitely be good,

1593
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: but it's also like I've been hunting for three weeks

1594
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: straight and my wife's about to kill me at that point,

1595
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 1: so I feel like I need to be taking some

1596
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: time away to spend out family, and then you got Thanksgiving. UM,

1597
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: And I always feel like I just have a hard

1598
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: time finding time to hunt at that point because of that. UM.

1599
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: But man if if I can figure out how to

1600
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: better balance that and still get some hunting opportunity in

1601
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: some of these places, I hud agree with you on

1602
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: figuring that time for about two but we need to

1603
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: wrap things up. I know you've got to get out

1604
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: of here. Dan, We've kind of rambled all over the place.

1605
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: I feel like we've been like going on this thing

1606
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: that thing all over the place. UM. Maybe the moral

1607
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 1: of the story is that you and I both had

1608
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: a lot of things go well. We also learned a

1609
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: lot from our mistakes. UM, and I gotta believe everyone

1610
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: else out there has had similar situations, whether you killed

1611
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of deer and achieved your goals or you didn't. Um,

1612
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 1: there's there's always something to learn from it. So well,

1613
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 1: if you had to wrap it up, Dan, for you

1614
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: like your big your top couple of things that we've

1615
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: talked about here. Otherwise, if you're a big couple takeaways

1616
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: from this season, what were those most important things, um,

1617
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: that stand out above everything else? I guess number one

1618
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: would be continue to be fluid, to continue to let

1619
01:26:56,479 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: the the oh man, the situation like the like the

1620
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: weather or the wind direction or the temperature, or the

1621
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,480
Speaker 1: knowledge you have of off trail cameras, let that dictate

1622
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: your I guess where your stand location is going to be,

1623
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: but then also use your gut to finalize that decision,

1624
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. And then, um, the other the

1625
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 1: other thing would be, I don't know, man, just to

1626
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 1: continue to be observant and keep your eyes open and

1627
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 1: and if if there is failure, to embrace it, because

1628
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: you don't get better, if you're perfect all the time.

1629
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: That's the truth right there. I agree with that for sure, UM,

1630
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: and I think that that Perris and well to then

1631
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 1: my big takeaways. Biggest takeaway from me has been not

1632
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: to get blinded by obsession, so so obsessed with killing

1633
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 1: holy Field this year, I think while that was it

1634
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 1: was a great goal and it was a fun goal

1635
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: to go after, I think it also caused me to

1636
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: again to overstressed, to overthink, to to miss out on

1637
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: other enjoyable parts of the hunting season. Um, and then

1638
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 1: also kept me from doing other things that maybe would

1639
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: have resulted in a better opportunities to Like I canceled

1640
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: a great trip to North Dakota, I didn't hunt the

1641
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: Ohio Rout almost at all. UM. So I missed out

1642
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: a lot of things because I was so so so

1643
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 1: focused on this one thing, which maybe that's a good thing,

1644
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: maybe it's not. UM. And then I think we talked

1645
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: about this a lot, but just UM learning to learn

1646
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 1: from mistakes but not beat yourself up or overstressed about them.

1647
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: That's a big one. And then the final piece I

1648
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: think for me this year was the issue I just

1649
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 1: talked about a couple minutes ago, which was location. Like

1650
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: every year too, I'm constantly thinking about trying to find

1651
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 1: new places. I just need to do an even better job,

1652
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 1: like I need to just find more opportunities, because there's

1653
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: nothing more important, I think, when it comes right down

1654
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: to it, more important than location. You can't kill mature

1655
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: big bucks if you don't have anywhere to hunt that

1656
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: has them. And uh, that's especially true in a place

1657
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: like Michigan, where they're not everywhere by any means. So

1658
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be knocking allowed doors or saving up pennies

1659
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 1: to try to buy up property someday or Lisa property

1660
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 1: somewhere or something, because you gotta get spots to hunt.

1661
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: So I hear we've been hearing a little person in

1662
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 1: the background, Dan, do you want to make your son famous? Hey, hey, Mac,

1663
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: can you say talk writing here and say stay wired

1664
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 1: to hunt? Yeah? That's awesome man. Alright, well, I think

1665
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 1: that's a perfect way to write it up. Now say

1666
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 1: say Sai, say the October lull is a myth? Not

1667
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,640
Speaker 1: are we go now a we start talking dirty? All right,

1668
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 1: we're gone, We're gone, and that we'll do it for us.

1669
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 1: So big thank you to our partners who make this possible.

1670
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 1: Big thanks to Sit to Gear, YETI Cooler's Matthews Archery,

1671
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: Maven Optics, the White Tail Institute of North America, Trophy

1672
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,759
Speaker 1: Ridge and hunt Terra maps. And finally, thank you for listening,

1673
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. I hope that you had

1674
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 1: an amazing two thousand seventeen season and hopefully one that

1675
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: you've been able to learn from and that you can

1676
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,679
Speaker 1: take those lessons forward into the next one. So until

1677
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 1: next time, thanks again, and stay wired to Hunt.