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So 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: we are often running here on this Tuesday morning and 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: we are talking all about NFL free agency because a 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: lot of guys got paid, and there was one team 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: that was really, really active, and it started before the 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: weekend with a major trade. The Las Vegas Raiders have 30 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: been spending and spending and spending. They've set some records, 31 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: most notably Tyler Linderbaum, who reached an agreement with the 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: Raiders yesterday on a three year, eighty one million dollar 33 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: deal and include sixty million dollars guaranteed by far and 34 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: away the biggest contract handed out to a center in 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: the NFL. Of course, this on the heels of them 36 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: trading away Max Crosby to the Baltimore Ravens for a 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: couple of first round picks, including this year, which is 38 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: picked number fourteen. But the Raiders, led by Tyler Lindenbaum 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: or Tyler Linderbaum, have set the standard of overspending in 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: free agency potentially and people maybe looking back in next 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: offseason and saying, hey, remember when they won the offseason. 42 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: It didn't result in many wins, but they do get 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 3: the best center in the class, maybe the best player 44 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: available in free agency if you listen to Pete Prisco 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: who talked about it last week. So the Raiders have 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 3: improved their roster by spending an s load yesterday at 47 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: the start of free agency. 48 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was to say, you go, you know what 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 5: this means, guys, absolutely nothing, And that's how we love 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 5: the off season. A lot of hype, a lot of signings. 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 5: In some cases, yeah, it'll pay off. But the truth 52 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 5: of the matter is this, besides the Linderbaum signing, maybe 53 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 5: you say to Kobe Dean kway Walker to help shure 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 5: up the defense. Most of these deals, they're gonna be 55 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 5: one year deals, maybe two year deals at best, and 56 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 5: a year from now we'll be having a discussion about 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 5: the team potentially moving on. And that's how it typically 58 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 5: works in free agency if the player and this is 59 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 5: what's interesting about Linderbaum is he's one of those players 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 5: that you would have said, why would any team want 61 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 5: to let him go? You know, clearly the Ravens, you know, 62 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 5: thought he was replaceable. Otherwise they wouldn't let him get 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 5: the free agency in the first place. You know, It's 64 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 5: just one of those tough decisions you have to make, 65 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 5: and they look at the center position, they say, we 66 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 5: want to invest and allocate our capital elsewhere. So it 67 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 5: looks as if the Raiders want to be big spenders. 68 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 5: They want to try to turn things around. They're trying 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 5: to shore up their offensive line by bringing in Linderbaum, 70 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 5: so they give him a record setting deal for centers. 71 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 5: And then you look at what they've done defensively, Ni Kobe, Dean, 72 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 5: quay Walker, Quitty Pay, you know, Malcolm Koontz, who's you know, 73 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 5: they sign him to a one year deal. He's kind 74 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: of been an up and cover player in my mind. 75 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 5: Eric Stokes they resigned to a three year, thirty million 76 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 5: dollar deal. So this sort of thing you want to see. 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 5: But you know, ultimately, when you trade away Max Crosby 78 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 5: to the Baltimore Ravens, I just, you know, that's one 79 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 5: of those moves that I understand his frustration with the team. 80 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 5: I understand that, you know, maybe they felt like they 81 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: that bridge was burned. There's no way they can go 82 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 5: back to it. But I don't know how this makes 83 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 5: this team any better. And it feels like, you know, 84 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 5: they're gonna take Fernando Mendoza number one overall with this 85 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 5: draft pick. 86 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 6: I think that this signals that's you. 87 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 5: With the Linderbaum signing, they added in Jalen Naylor as 88 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 5: well to help out at the wide receiver spot, but 89 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 5: the releasing of Geno Smith, everything that kind of coincides 90 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 5: with this. It leads you to think they're going to 91 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 5: take a quarterback with that first overall pick. But what 92 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: kind of team is he going to be coming into. 93 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 5: You know, probably still a team that's going to be 94 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 5: one of the worst rosters in the league, and it's 95 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 5: gonna be uphill battle for him. But yeah, there's they're 96 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 5: spending a ton of money, man, and I'm sure there's 97 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 5: the people in Vegas who'd love. 98 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 6: To see this. At least the team's try trying to 99 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 6: make this team better. 100 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: They are making a move to try to make the 101 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: team better. They also probably did the right thing by, 102 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, moving on from Max Crosby. Max gave them 103 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: some some really good years and and giving him an 104 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to go somewhere and maybe see if he can win. 105 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 4: Seems to make a ton of sense to me. 106 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: The Lindernbaum, I just again, I can't get around thinking 107 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: that how how important centers are to your team, for one, 108 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: and then the fact that the fact that I just 109 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: don't there are a few good Actually it's a good, 110 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: good draft with centers and linemen this year. But I 111 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: just don't think. I think the Ravens did not improve 112 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: losing what the best, the best center in the league. 113 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: I I you know, I don't know what the Ravens 114 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: felt about it to not franchise, tag them to not 115 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they did offer him a nice amount, it 116 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 1: just wasn't high enough. 117 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: I just don't know. I don't know if this. 118 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: I think this takes Baltimore's offensive line a step back, 119 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: a major step back, Which what does that mean for 120 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and this year if they don't find a 121 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: way to plug that gap? 122 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: And for the Raiders. I don't know what to think. 123 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: Because I don't have high expectation expectations for them to 124 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: begin with. So it's very difficult to say that losing 125 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: Max Crosby but gaining a center in Linderbaum made this 126 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: a better team. I just think it's just a wait 127 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: and see approach with the Raiders. 128 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: The story that came out, I think it was Diana 129 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 3: Rossini who had it last week, and she was talking about, 130 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 3: you know, after they released Genos myth that the Raiders 131 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: would like to find a veteran quarterback that if they 132 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: go the rout of Fernanda Mendoza, they don't want him 133 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: to start right away. I don't I don't get it 134 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: if that's if that's the plan, if that's what they're 135 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: trying to do, I don't get it. You've got the 136 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: number one pick. I would assume you'd rather find out 137 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: sooner rather than later. And if you're going to improve 138 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: the offensive line by going out and signing the best center, 139 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: the best offensive lineman of the free agency class, and 140 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: you give them that sort of contract, that seems to 141 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: me like, if Fernanda Mendoz is going to be your 142 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: pick at number one, then that would mean that I 143 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: would want to start him right away and just go 144 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: with that and see what Kobiak can do, and just 145 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: go through the growing pains, but at least get an 146 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: answer one way or the other whether or not he 147 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: really is the quarterback of the future or the franchise quarterback. 148 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: And so when I saw the Linderbomb signing, that just 149 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: seemed more and more obvious to me, that this is 150 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: the direction they were going. And from the Baltimore standpoint, 151 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: the reports are they offered him a twenty million dollar deal, 152 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: he passed, They offered him twenty two, he passed. He 153 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: got a much bigger deal from the Raiders. But I 154 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: guess it was the fact that Baltimore wanted a fourth year, 155 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: and with this deal with the Raiders, it means he 156 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: can get to another contract at twenty eight, So I 157 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: guess it was I guess the sticking point was the 158 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: number of years, but the fact that Baltimore, an organization 159 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: that usually makes the right moves from a personnel standpoint, 160 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: didn't franchise him and ultimately decided we'll just take our 161 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: chances with him leaving. I just wonder what else, what 162 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: else is there? And I don't want to say overrated, 163 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 3: but maybe they didn't see the value that clearly the 164 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: Raiders did. I just when an organization like that makes 165 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: a decision to not retain a guy like that, when 166 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: they usually always retain, you know, their players, whether t 167 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: Hamilton and all these other great players that they've had 168 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 3: over the past few years, it just makes me wonder 169 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: what they didn't see in him that the Raiders and 170 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: some others. 171 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 6: Did they raise his eyebo us? Right? 172 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's you know, for a player that ever, 173 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 5: I think everyone looked at and said he's a great player. 174 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 5: It makes a lot of sense and for them not 175 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 5: to be able to work this out somehow, But I 176 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 5: think it comes down to maybe a couple of things. 177 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 5: The first would be we talked about the contract situation, 178 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 5: but you know, also just then allocation of your salary 179 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 5: cap and where you're willing to spend a little bit 180 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 5: more and where you're probably willing to not. And as 181 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 5: tough as it is to say, you know, tackles in 182 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 5: the offensive line are just valued that much higher, maybe 183 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 5: even more so, you know than even you know, centering 184 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 5: guards and then even guards, maybe even more than the 185 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 5: center sometimes. So if you're looking at from that standpoint, 186 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 5: it could have been a philosophical difference of how they 187 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 5: want to go about spending some of those the extra 188 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 5: money that when they can. I think the other thing 189 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 5: that you have to look at is Lamar Jack sentence 190 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 5: node spring Chicken. 191 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 6: Meaning he's a veteran this league. 192 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 5: You know, when you look at the move that the 193 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 5: Raiders are making, Quinn Kobiaks bringing a center who's going 194 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 5: to help from dam endos up with a lot of 195 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 5: the calls they're making in the run game, pass protection, 196 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 5: you know, against you know, a lot of the blitz 197 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 5: schemes and things they're going to see. They've got a 198 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 5: veteran guy in there taking it off his plate, allowing 199 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 5: Fernando to get comfortable in there, and that was probably 200 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 5: a huge priority for him. 201 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 6: To your point, if they are going to. 202 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 5: Draft the number one overall, if they are going to 203 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 5: play him right away, which everything signals they're going to, 204 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 5: this is that sort of move where we want to 205 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 5: make sure that we've got a guy in there who's 206 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 5: communicating clearly to our offensive line what their jobs are 207 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 5: and helping to protect our quarterback so he's not getting 208 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 5: killed out there. 209 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 6: You know. 210 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 5: I think that's the other piece of this equation is 211 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 5: Baltimore's not in that position. Lamar can handle all of 212 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 5: that now, he's played for a long time in this league. 213 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 5: For the Raiders, they see greater value in what that 214 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 5: center can bring, especially a veteran center when playing at 215 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 5: such a high level. So, uh, you know, look, there 216 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 5: might be some people who disagree with this, but I'm 217 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 5: gonna flat out say it. You know, sometimes your weakest 218 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 5: offensive lineman is your center. And the reason why that 219 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 5: is is because he is always getting some sort of 220 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 5: help from either one of the guards or the way 221 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 5: you could scheme things up to help him out. And 222 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 5: that's one of those things where we always talk about 223 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 5: tackles being on islands. One of the reasons why they're 224 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 5: the most coveting value is because they're on the edge. 225 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 5: There's often times where no matter what, like they're gonna 226 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 5: be one on one and they've got to be able 227 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 5: to go up against some of the most athletic freaks 228 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 5: in the league that you've ever seen. And so you know, 229 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 5: as you as you cut it down, that center, for 230 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 5: the most part, is gonna at least get a hand. 231 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 5: It's gonna at least get you know, some of the 232 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 5: presence there from one of those guards helping to kind 233 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 5: of protect him. Even in bear fronts, you know, he's 234 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 5: subject to, you know, being bull rushed, but for the 235 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 5: most part, there's different ways of being able to protect 236 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 5: the center from being overmatched. Schematically speaking, you know, there's 237 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 5: ways of helping him out. So that might be another 238 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 5: thing too, going back to the philosophical discussion of like 239 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 5: who we're gonna pay, how much you're gonna pay him, 240 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 5: you know, oftentimes just saying now I I want to 241 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 5: pay the guys. It's gonna be the blindside from my 242 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 5: quarterback going up against the toughest matchup, you know, maybe 243 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 5: we have on the field and that tackle versus that 244 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 5: edge rusher. So it could probably come down. I think 245 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 5: that those two things, you know, one of them being 246 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 5: just the difference between how where the Raiders are at 247 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 5: when the Baltimore Ravens are at. 248 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 6: At the quarterback spot. 249 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: Again, I think both teams are in what would be 250 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: considered to be a difficult position. I really do. I 251 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: don't know that they definitively improved on either side. I 252 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: think that Max Crosby is that's a that's a critical loss. 253 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: I think Tyler Lindenbaum is a critical loss. And I 254 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: don't know how to I really don't know how to 255 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: monitor or weigh them. Which one would be the bigger loss? 256 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I just don't. 257 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 4: I'm not. I don't know. 258 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: But I do think that their additions improved each other's teams. 259 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: I just don't was the singular piece of adding Max 260 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: Crosby the difference for you know, for Baltimore, I would say, no, 261 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: they need more. Is losing Tyler Lindenbaum. Is that a 262 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: bigger loss for you know, for for Baltimore, And is 263 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: that a bigger gain? It shures up, it shores up 264 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: this this this offensive line. It's a pretty decent offensive 265 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: line in in Las Vegas. But I again, you're you're 266 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: probably going to draft number one overall. I mean, you're 267 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: going to draft uh mendoz over number one overall. 268 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: I just don't know. 269 00:13:58,679 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 270 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 4: I don't have how expectations for the Raiders. 271 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: So I feel as though I feel as though until 272 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: we see more see this group that they've put together, 273 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: which is an impressive group of free agents that they've 274 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: put together, you know, I don't I just don't know. 275 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: But I think the Ravens, we may see a new Ravens. 276 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: I do say that. 277 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: I will say that I'm I'm feeling as though we're 278 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: going to see a different type of Ravens team this year, 279 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: and it's not going to be, in my estimation, trending 280 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: in the right direction. 281 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: So they were I think it was their lowest sack 282 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: total in fifteen years. They couldn't get to the quarterback 283 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: last year. And I think of all the edge rushers, 284 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: you know, whoever led them had four and a half sacks. 285 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: They just they couldn't generate any pressure on the quarterback 286 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: last year. And they had all the injuries as well 287 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: too on defense, which didn't help. So I look at 288 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: it and I go, you definitely improved that side of 289 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 3: the ball. You've taken a hit by, you know, deciding 290 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: to not retain Linderbaum when you could have easily given 291 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: him the franchise tagle though the salary cap numbers and 292 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: all that that you would want to look at. But 293 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: I just to me, if we're gonna decide between who 294 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: made the right decision and who didn't hear, the Ravens 295 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: front offices earn the benefit of the doubt. I know 296 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: that spy Tech. There's a lot of people that are 297 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: really excited about about spy Tech and everything that's going 298 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: on there. It's also the same organization that hired Pete 299 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: Carroll and traded for Gino Smith. They gave up a 300 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: draft capital and I think fifty eight million dollars to 301 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: do so, and then he was gone. The Chip Kelly fiasco, 302 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: all the things that we've seen a lot of. That's 303 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: on spy Tech as well too. So I look at 304 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: it and I go, if Baltimore is willing to part 305 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: and add Max Crosby, clearly I'm going to side with 306 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: that's the organization that's got the reputation for making good moves, 307 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: and it's a remain to be seen with the Raiders. 308 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 5: That's the way I on spy Sech or is it 309 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 5: on Tom Brady. 310 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, That's the thing. I don't know what 311 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: what Brady's involvement is there. If you listen to Jeremy Fowler, 312 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: you know, Brady just didn't want to trade Max Crosby 313 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: to the Patriots because he didn't want to give Rabel 314 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: Max Crosby. Like That's so, I don't know how involved 315 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: he is with the decision making. I would assume he's 316 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: got got a lot of saying it. But Spy Tech's 317 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: the guy who's getting all the credit. You know, based 318 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: on yesterday's signings. 319 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good signings and they and and 320 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: it should improve their team, it really should. But this 321 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: Ravens right, the way these decisions have gone down with 322 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens, I'm just very skeptical, skeptical. 323 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 4: Of what where they're where they're at. How do you 324 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: fill that void? 325 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: And and I'm certain they probably have a plan, and 326 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: that's why they approached it the way that they did 327 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: instead of just tagging him. But because at the end 328 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: of the day, I mean, if they tag him, the 329 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: eye idea of the Raiders over spending for him. Do 330 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: you guys think that they would have took the tag 331 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: off of them? Do you think that they would have 332 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: matched the tag? 333 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: Well, if it was the exclusive tag that they couldn't 334 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: they couldn't. 335 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you put it so, they just did 336 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: they not want to pay them? Could they not pay him? 337 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: How do you undervalue your center if he's a one 338 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: on one center, if your if your offensive line is 339 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: now not shored up, but you and for what it's worth. 340 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: I mean, Max Crosby is a one of one talent, 341 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: but one pass rusher does not heal an entire It 342 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: doesn't cure an entire defense. And a center can be 343 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: a definite more of a catalyst. An elite center can 344 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: shore up an offensive line more than an edge can 345 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: shore up a defensive line. In fact, I wouldn't I 346 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: would say you have to have a tackle on the 347 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: defensive side or a nose a zero technique that can 348 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: actually give you a point that is more important than 349 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: anybody else on that defensive front unless you have a 350 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: point guy that can set that point and give the 351 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: other guys the opportunity to fit into their gaps. I 352 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: don't know how effective an edge is well, So I 353 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: just feel like this. 354 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 5: I would say, schematically, going back to the initial discussion, 355 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 5: I would be the exact opposite for me. You know, 356 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 5: edges will change so much of what you do. The 357 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 5: things you hate, chips, nudges, you know, all those things 358 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 5: are put into the playbook, all those things change them. 359 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 5: The passing concepts you're going to use because you need 360 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 5: to give that tackle help. 361 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 6: You know how much three step game you're doing? How 362 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 6: are you even marrying up your move? 363 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 5: The pocket and screens and play action everything else will 364 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 5: be very like, very cognizant of are we faking to 365 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 5: that guy? Are we faking away from it? If we're 366 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 5: faking away from him, the backside of help to give 367 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 5: extra time along developing play. There's just so many things 368 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 5: that schematically change with you know, a very you know, 369 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 5: top level edge rusher, you know again looking back at 370 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 5: the weakness is of an offensive line. If a team 371 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 5: wants to run a bear front the entire game, okay, 372 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 5: so be it. There's teams who will do that from 373 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 5: time to time. Obviously Buddy Grind the eighty five Bears 374 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 5: and you know everything they used to run. 375 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 6: But that kind of had it. It's time and its phase. 376 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 5: But that's a way of getting one on one matchups, 377 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 5: you know, that way you can exploit some of those 378 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 5: weaknesses or in particular center. But the reality is that 379 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 5: you know had its time, and now it's not there anymore. 380 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 6: Because everyone's got an answer to it. 381 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 5: You know, usually you're going to try to run some 382 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 5: sort of outside zone play some some teams like running 383 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 5: gap scheme against it that I can kind of gash it. 384 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 5: And then in the passing game, there's only so much 385 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 5: you can do when you're running that sort of front, 386 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 5: so there's only so many coverages you can play in behind. 387 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 5: So I tend to look at the exact opposite way 388 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 5: I was going to ask you about this, like the 389 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 5: Ravens draft at fourteen could how I want to try 390 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 5: to pronounce his name? Aoni, the interior offensive lineman at 391 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 5: Penn State. Could he play center? Because here's the other 392 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 5: thing is too people tend to think that the centers 393 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 5: always make all the calls. Sometimes it's the guard and 394 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 5: we've seen oftentimes too in silent accounts, who's the guy 395 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 5: actually signaling to snap the football? You know, the center's 396 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 5: going to bob his head on all that, But it's 397 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 5: actually the guard that triggers it. So if you have 398 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 5: experienced guards around that center, even if it's a young center, 399 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 5: you know he's he's still able to, you know, operate 400 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 5: and do some of the things he does. 401 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 6: And again we talked about in Baltimore, you've got Lamar. 402 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 6: Lamar is going to make all the calls. 403 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 5: You know, he's going to walk up the line say 404 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 5: what he's going to say, and everyone's gonna fall suit. 405 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 5: But could that guy play center? You know it was 406 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 5: he good enough? You think interiorly because he's he's if 407 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 5: he's there at fourteen, I know he's one of the 408 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 5: top prospects. You know, could he be a guy that 409 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 5: they take at fourteen? That's kind of that no man's 410 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 5: land of like where you end up taking a guy 411 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 5: you're probably not getting a top edge guy or top. 412 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 6: Cornerback would have you. 413 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 5: So I think the Ravens are thinking with where we're 414 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 5: seeing the draft. Take Max Crosby. He'll make a difference 415 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 5: on the defense. We can go fill in that void 416 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 5: with drafting a great player at Penn State to go 417 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 5: play center. 418 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: Vega can play. I don't know if he's a center. 419 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I still think that you 420 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: gotta double. If you can single block of a legit 421 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: anchor tackle single block, then your defense is in trouble. 422 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: You've always got that guard, always has to be checking 423 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: for that that tackle, that one tackle that can anchor it, 424 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: whether they're the strong side or you put them on 425 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: the weak side, like like for instance, Chris Jones is 426 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: a great example. You're not going if you try to 427 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: block on what one guy, he's going to get through 428 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: there and he's going to impact your game, whether it's 429 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: a run or a pass. You generally have to double. 430 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: So when you're talking about getting those one on one 431 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: matchups on the outside, those one on one matchups come 432 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: because you have to use two guys to block that 433 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: that three technique on the end. 434 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 6: Well, that's not necessarily true. 435 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 5: Like a lot of what teams are doing Now even 436 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 5: they put three to one side and then one all 437 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 5: the way the isolated with the other, that stresses the 438 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 5: protection because it forces that like let's say, for example, 439 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 5: there's one guy of the left fle and then all 440 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 5: three are to the guard and the center guard tackle 441 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 5: on the right side. 442 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 6: What they end up doing. 443 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 5: Because they're going to a three man game on that side, 444 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 5: they're basically saying to the protection, you've got to pull 445 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 5: that left guard over, like he's got to slide to 446 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 5: the right, and you have to declare it because you 447 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 5: don't want one on ones all on that side. And 448 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 5: so usually typically unless that, you know, unless they're going 449 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 5: to divide the line like that, which obviously leads you 450 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 5: susceptible for any sort of backer. If they're gonna either 451 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 5: blitz or if they're gonna try to you know, key 452 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 5: off of the back, you're gonna have wide open rushing lanes. 453 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 5: So typically, like that's a way of kind of defining 454 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 5: and dividing the protection up. And that's not even playing 455 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 5: the bear front, you know, that's not even putting five 456 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 5: guys across the line. So again, I think we cant 457 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 5: have philosophical debates about scheme over one. I just look 458 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 5: at and say, it's pretty simple as this. You pay 459 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 5: your edge rushers, you pay your tackles. There's not many 460 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 5: teams paying centers, and the Raiders decide to do so 461 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 5: and we'll see it works out. 462 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: But when you get a good center, you got to 463 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: pay that bad booger hull. 464 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 6: Trust I played with Alex Mac. 465 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 5: Alex Mac was finabal, Hank Frayley played a long time. 466 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 5: I'm saying, Joe Thomas though, is f first Foult Hall 467 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 5: of Famer. 468 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 6: You know he got the bag. 469 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 470 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox 471 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: with you coming up next here though, we've got a 472 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: reunion and we've got a big time deal handed out 473 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: in the NFL for one team in the league. 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That'll be yours again coming up 502 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 3: here a little over fifteen minutes from now. The Kansas 503 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: City Chiefs couple of editions yesterday for Kansas City, in 504 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 3: particular on offense, Travis Kelcey, he is back. He's going 505 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 3: to get a one year deal with Kansas City to return, 506 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: a deal that could be worth up to fifteen million dollars. 507 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: And then it was Kenneth Walker signing a three year 508 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 3: deal last scene, winning MVP of the Super Bowl against 509 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: the New England Patriots. But he cashes in with an 510 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: opportunity and free agency. Seattle decided, a lah, what the 511 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 3: Ravens did with Tyler Linderbaum. We're not going to franchise him. 512 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 3: We're going to let him go test the open market. 513 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: He does, and he gets gobbled up by the Chiefs, 514 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: who we were talking about this a little bit yesterday. 515 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: It's been a long ass time since they've had a 516 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: thousand yard rusher. Twenty seventeen was the last time the 517 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 3: Chiefs had a thousand yard back in that offense. And 518 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: so Patrick Mahomes coming off the injury, gets a little 519 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 3: bit of help in the backfield, and then the return 520 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: of Travis Kelsey to that offense. 521 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 6: I mean, I think the. 522 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 5: First thing that hits me is I've seen a lot 523 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 5: of mock drafts the drafting of Jeremiah Love. This probably 524 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 5: puts an end to that that speculation or that thought. 525 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 6: A lot of people were kind of tantalized. 526 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 5: By the idea of you know, one of those you know, 527 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 5: dynamic rushers that can catch the football out of the backfield, 528 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 5: run the football extremely well, helping out Patrick Mahomes. 529 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 6: Taking some pressure off of him. Well, they do it 530 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 6: a different way. 531 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 5: They get a guy in Kenneth Walker who's capable of 532 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 5: doing that improven at the NFL level. So probably going 533 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 5: a different direction there though, but it will be fun 534 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 5: to see if you know, the Kansaty Chiefs can can 535 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 5: find more balance in a rushing tech. And it feels 536 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 5: like a lot of news has been coming out of late, 537 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 5: obviously Kelsey coming back for what is to be I 538 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 5: believe what is fourteenth season or fifteen season, whatever it's 539 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 5: been for him now, and so it feels like they're 540 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 5: trying to make another run at this and maybe doing 541 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 5: so with a little bit a different philosophy. Offensively speaking too, 542 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 5: So I'll be curious to see, you know, how exactly 543 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 5: this changes the offense, what it looks. 544 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 6: Like within this offense. But you know fact, you know, 545 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 6: this is the risk that you take. If you're the 546 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 6: Seattle Seahawks. You know, you win a Super Bowl, everyone 547 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 6: wants to be paid. 548 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 5: They've got that ring now and they're looking for greenner pastors, 549 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 5: and Kenneth Walker is probably saying to himself like, hey, guys, 550 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 5: I'm joining a coach and a quarterback who I feel 551 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 5: like I have a shot of getting to one. 552 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 6: So maybe I'll see you again there next year. But 553 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 6: either way, you know, you. 554 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 5: Got to feel good if you're Kenneth Walker, kind of 555 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 5: getting the deal that you were hoping for after securing 556 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 5: that ring. 557 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: If I'm Kansas City, the only concern I have is 558 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: when is Patrick Mahomes going to be healthy enough to play? 559 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: And can you make it it? Does he does he 560 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: play this season? And when does that happen? And can 561 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: we stay competitive long enough to do so? I think 562 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: if you had an elite running back, I wouldn't be 563 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: afraid to say that Kenneth Walker. I mean, after establishing 564 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: being the MVP of the Super Bowl that he shouldn't 565 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: be talked about in elite fashion. I mean, they did 566 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: an excellent job him. Uh, and what's the other what's 567 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: the other back that got Sharbonne? Now, I think he 568 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: did an excellent They did an excellent job and and 569 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: so by adding that level of a caliber of a 570 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: running back, maybe maybe it does indicate or signify that 571 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: they are going to try to establish. 572 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 4: A run and and so. 573 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: But but make no mistake about it, No, Patrick Mahomes, 574 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: I think it's a very difficult proposition in a steadily 575 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: improving AFC WES. I don't know what the Raiders are 576 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: going to be, like I said, but I do believe 577 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: that the Denver Broncos are a quarterback shy of potentially 578 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl. And it's it's it's I 579 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: don't want to say a nowur never year for the Chargers, 580 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: but you'd have to assume Justin Herbert. We don't talk 581 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: a lot about Justin Herbert because we gave all of 582 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: the pressure to, you know, to Allen and to Jackson 583 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: on on the northern side of things. But shouldn't we 584 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: start to have the same type of conversations about Justin 585 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: Herbert If he doesn't take a definitive step forward this 586 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: season like. 587 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 3: That, let me research him a little bit. I'll send 588 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: you guys over what I got. 589 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: I feel like that's on I feel like that is 590 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: on the dossier of like, can he finally this is 591 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: the year to say Ken Justin Herbert finally truly turned 592 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: the corner and lead his team further than what they've 593 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: done since he's been there. So I think it's going 594 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: to be a difficult It's going to be a difficult 595 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: year for Kansas City, and I think it's going to 596 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: be because the Chargers are going to be good in 597 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: my estimation, and I think that the Broncos are going 598 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: to be good, and the Broncos defense is pretty sick. 599 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what the Chargers are going to do 600 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: with their defense. It's pretty decent, but you know, obviously 601 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: they could be better. And they lost a pass rusher 602 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: in a da fe Aoway he went to Washington, So 603 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to see how they fill the gaps 604 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: on their defense side of the ball this offseason. 605 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 5: I kind of feel like the Broncos are one of 606 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 5: those teams that if you look at their record last 607 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 5: year fourteen and three, you're going, man, they're going to 608 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 5: be a contention thing, really good, and then you go 609 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 5: back and look at how many tight games they won, 610 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 5: how many miraculous games they were able. 611 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 6: To pull out. It reminds me a little bit of. 612 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 5: The Minnesota Vikings that year too, where they were thirteen 613 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 5: and four. I believe it was in a similar fashion, 614 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 5: want a lot of one score, tight games down the stretch, 615 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 5: and then reverted back to the me in the following 616 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 5: year where that kind of levels out. 617 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 6: So I don't know. 618 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 5: I'm not saying that the Broncos won't be competitive or 619 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 5: in the playoff hunt. I just I feel like it 620 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 5: it could be a different season for them. I'm not 621 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 5: sure they're going to be getting the number one seed 622 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 5: in the AFC next year, but definitely still talented enough 623 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 5: to be in playoff contention. I just I don't know, 624 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 5: those those tight games, those miraculous wins, you kind of 625 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 5: look at it and go, all right, like, how how 626 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 5: many of those do you actually expect to win? 627 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 6: Year in year out. 628 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: They're the AFC version of the Bears, basically, Like that's 629 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: those two teams. 630 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 6: This past year they were Yeah this past year. 631 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, the their defense is much better than your Beers defense. 632 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 3: Bro, that is when you say your you're tying to 633 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 3: me or Brady, what do you mean you Bears? 634 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 6: Look? 635 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 5: I like a lot of the people at the Bears. 636 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong, Jonas grew up rooting for them. 637 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: Man, you know, I've got the ment to the equation 638 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: because you wanted to make that comparison. I was a 639 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: team that you were. 640 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 5: Needed, like random, you know, Bears topics just to put 641 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 5: on the rundowns we could talk about. 642 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: Look, because I've got family from Haim in Indiana, and 643 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: that's the hometown of the Bears, and so I just 644 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 3: think that it's important to point that out. Also, I 645 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: did do to end up playing in Indiana. Quick update here, 646 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: I did do a little bit of research on justin 647 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 3: Herbert's offseason. I just sent it over to you guys. 648 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you happen to see that, but. 649 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 6: Well that's a dated picture. 650 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: Then well if if you didn't drink beer, you should 651 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 3: start no cannons. But yeah, this can't hurt Kansas City. 652 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're if you're Patrick Mahomes and you're 653 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: coming off the surgically repaired knee and you know, doctor 654 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: Chows talked about how it's not just a standard ACL tear. 655 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 3: There was another ligament that was damaged and you've got 656 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: all that. You got to give him some help in 657 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 3: the backfield, and I just I don't know what they've 658 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: really had from a backstandpoint. You know, Kareem Hunt, as 659 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 3: we mentioned, was the last back to have a thousand 660 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 3: yards that was. Tell me about it. 661 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 4: When did Patrick Mahomes get hurt. 662 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 5: He's scheduled to be back week one. He got hurt 663 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 5: in December, but he he's scheduled as now to get 664 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 5: back in for week one. 665 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: That's crazy? Is that six months? No, that'd be almost 666 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: nine Well, yeah, I guess that's enough time. Listen, If 667 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: he can get back and he can play, and he 668 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: can play at a high level with that confidence that 669 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: that's necessary and needed, then you know, you have you 670 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: have Kenneth Walker to give him some relief in the 671 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: run game. 672 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 4: Who knows, you. 673 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: Know, but I'm basing it all on on Patrick Mahomes. 674 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: If he's healthy enough and and he can get into 675 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: the rhythm and get into the groove, and they can 676 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: and find a rhythm and find the groove, then they 677 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: got a chance obviously because it's Patrick Mahomes, But I 678 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: don't I don't trust that this defense is going to 679 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: continue to be what it has been in years past. 680 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to see it, and I don't have 681 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: any real reason to believe other than aging and what 682 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: I saw this year where they didn't come through on 683 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: some of the games that that they generally may have 684 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: come through on other other years past. 685 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. 686 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: Can I give you guys a Knox Lock because Brady 687 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 3: had mentioned Jeremiah Love to Kansas City, you know, and 688 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 3: with a top ten pick, and now that they signed 689 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker, you know, maybe that's out the window. I 690 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 3: think Jeremiah Love will be gone before they pick Knox Locks. 691 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 4: I think. 692 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 5: Maybe I was gonna say this quickly December fourteenth, when 693 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 5: the injury occurred September ninth. 694 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 6: Is I believe the opening for the twenty twenty sixth seasons? 695 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 6: I right anyway, doing double check that if you want. 696 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 5: I do think not to get off on a quick tangent, 697 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 5: but the Mahomes injury, like could be one of the 698 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 5: better things that has happened to him in this With 699 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 5: this thought, they have asked him to be Superman for 700 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 5: so long, it's now as if, all right, let's get 701 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 5: him some help, Let's build out around himlet's give him 702 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 5: a running game's let's realize he's not invincible, and so 703 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 5: let's go like build this roster the way other organizations have. 704 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 5: I mean, look at the Rams for example, and what 705 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford has to throw to. I mean, the Chiefs 706 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 5: should be making more strides to provide Patrick Mahomes that 707 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 5: I don't know that they have. 708 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 6: Maybe this is a wake up. 709 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 5: Call to that organization too, where they can start finally 710 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 5: providing him more help and not having to have Patrick 711 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 5: Mahomes do everything for this team. 712 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 3: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 713 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox 714 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 3: with you. 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Begin just search two pros 734 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 3: FSR and subscribe. 735 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: After your sports weekend happened, so it's time to get 736 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 2: the FSR IR report. 737 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 3: Who's got it? Who got it? Long ass break? Who's 738 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 3: got it? 739 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 6: Yeah? I don't know. I keep cutting my fingers on stuff. 740 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 5: I have no idea why, but just like randomly throughout 741 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 5: my my I look like I've got one hands. 742 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 6: Edward Sisson's hands. 743 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 5: With other hands, I'm just got gashes and band aids 744 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 5: all over it. So I'm not sure really, really. 745 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 3: What's going on with all that paper cuts or just 746 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 3: on no, no. 747 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 5: Like I was disassembling something with a screwdriver and I 748 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 5: slipped and. 749 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 6: I cut open one of my fingers. Just stupid stuff. 750 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 5: But I would say, we, my wife and I celebrator 751 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 5: our twelfth anniversary. Yeah, we went to a nice dinner. 752 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 5: It's a Sunday night and they had this dish. I mean, 753 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 5: you guys know how much I love chicken parm so 754 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 5: they had to spin on it though. They used like 755 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 5: vinegar and hot peppers all right, and they kind of like. 756 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 6: Threw a little bit of monsrelling up and not a 757 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 6: ton on like a cutlet. 758 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 5: It was unbelievable, but like super super super spicy, and 759 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 5: uh it was incredible. 760 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 6: Although I was like racing to get back home by the. 761 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: End of that, mame, it's just what is going on? 762 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I. 763 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 5: Know I can't eat like the stuff I used to eat, 764 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 5: but you know, it's celebrated your anniversary. 765 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 6: And she's like, like, why are you driving so fast? 766 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 5: I was like, I need to get home as soon 767 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 5: as I possibly can. 768 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 6: Well, we're gonna have to stop it something. 769 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that happened too. 770 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 6: Those peppers will get you. I'll sweating idiot. It's one 771 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 6: of those. 772 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I like it. 773 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, we had the universary see you in thirty minutes. 774 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: We had an emergency yesterday, but I made it, so 775 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: I guess that's my ir. 776 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 4: We did it for to her. But what was did 777 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 4: make it it? I had what I said I had. 778 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: Forty five was ten minutes away from the house, but 779 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: forty five minutes away from the studio and going back 780 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: home was not an option if I was going to 781 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: make it in on time for the show. So I 782 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: had to take the physical challenge forty five minutes of 783 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: a whole brouh But. 784 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,280 Speaker 4: We made it. We made it, made it from the bottom. 785 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 6: Now we're here, Well, we bat on the same thing 786 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 6: as I was talking about it. 787 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, we were, Yes, Yes. 788 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 5: Jonas acts like he doesn't have these issues, even though 789 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 5: you give him a tablespoon. 790 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 6: All right, If ice cream he's wearing black under whether. 791 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 3: The ice is yeah, I don't, it's not even so 792 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 3: much the ice cream. If there's something about milk like 793 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,240 Speaker 3: ice cream for whatever reason, in milk, even though it's 794 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: basically the same thing, I just yeah, milk just doesn't 795 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 3: that's not happening anymore. I learned my lesson last time, 796 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 3: bowl of honey nuts. Hereos gone go just none. It 797 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 3: was usain bold through my ass like just all the 798 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 3: way out and I'm okay, all right. That's so. That's 799 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 3: my lesson, and I don't need I don't need a 800 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 3: second time to know I'm gonna lose that fight. No 801 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 3: rematch needed. 802 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 5: Why the story is unbelievable because of the honeynut cheerios. 803 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 5: I don't know anyone that's had honeynut cheerio and had 804 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 5: a reaction for don't you got to be the only 805 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 5: dude in the history of the world that ate honeynut cheerios. 806 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 3: I used to love honey That cheers unbelievable. 807 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 6: I pick a different cereal. 808 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 3: God, that's the one, and I loved it as a kid. 809 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 3: That was my favorite, one of my favorite cereals as 810 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 3: a kid, and I had it when I got older 811 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 3: and it was like, no, those those days are gone. 812 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, that's a real story. Down two socks